Adam Ruins Everything - Why the Public Defender System is So Screwed Up
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2016
- As Rhea explains, public defenders are often understaffed and underfunded.
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Adam Ruins Everything - Why the Public Defender System is So Screwed Up 
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Create laws with long sentences, under fund the defense, incarcerate more people, have private prisons stay full - profit!
dothedeed That's the best way to put it.
You forgot "under fund rehabilitation and prison education"
That's the 420th Rule of Acquisition. A very Ferengi inspired capitalistic system.
Jesus, there are only 285 Rules of Acquisition. 286, if you count Quark's "When Morn leaves, it's all over."
+nychold GOP was "working" lately
That was the most lesbian looking lesbian I've ever seen
david otuwa I thought she was a teenage boy at first...
Wait, that was a female??
might just be a tom boy. some women are found of mens style
Yeah, It's Rhea Butcher. Look on Amy Poehler's Smart Girls if you want to see more. Sadly, it's all ideologically driven crap to throw at kids.
did you just assume it's gender?
Lawyers should work exclusively for the government, its immoral for richer to people to have more leniency under the law
There are more people that need to be represented than just the government.
Jonathon O'Neil he meant all lawyers should only be paid for by the government and are assigned on a random basis. The rich have just as much a chance to get proper representation as the middle class and poor.
Mac McGruff How expensive do you think lawyers are? They are not a million dollars a minute. Granted most ain't cheap, but Middle Class and above usually have no problem hiring a lawyer.
King Jon Starkgeryan notice how you just said "middle class and above", not "everyone".
If you want a good lawyer, get more money
12 minutes per client? That's criminal
I see what you did there...
But DNA tests aren't always accurate.
its criminal that some criminals have rights to a defence
MR. IDONOTCARE thats ironic
You should be *_arrested_* for that pun
as a lawyer myself, I feel all lawyers must be compulsorily made public defenders for a particular period of time. like 1 case every 2 years or so or they won't be accepted as lawyers.
I'm thinking of going into criminal law and I'm not sure whether to be a prosecutor or public defender. Now I see that defenders make less, so... yeah. Mind elaborating on why it should be compulsory? I'd love to hear your insight, and any advice you might be willing to offer.
Aren't law firms required to do a certain number of these cases pro-bono? Doesn't that help the situation?
You mean like how doctors have to do housemanship work at public hospitals? It could work. That way we could have more lawyers and less burden of work per-lawyer. But will this increase the cost of public spending to hire all those lawyers? I mean is it practical? I look up on WHO statistics that in the USA there are about 2.54 doctors for every 1000 patients....so I guess for starters there need to be a study on the efficient ratio of lawyers per population.
there aren't many public defenders out there, it's a huge problem, and the general public needs lawyers. making it compulsory will help the current public defenders develop a good career for themselves, as well as bring in the top notch expensive ones into the system.
apparently not, right? if its made compulsory individually, more lawyers are supplied into the system.
Case loads would drop dramatically if drug usage was just considered a health issue, not a criminal one.
Which has started to prove out in California. We have Jails that are no longer packed and I think they are no longer looking at building new prisons.
Eh, I've heard both sides of the story. Just to be a devil's advocate I'll try to provide a reason for the other said.
When people were on drugs such as marijuana, crack, etc. they do really stupid things that can cause the death of others. For example, smoking marijuana has caused a couple(s) to forget their babies in the hot car and allow them to die. Sure, alcohol and smoking also kills, but that doesn't mean we should let more become legal. Plus ever heard of those stories of how people have gone broke and homeless from wanting it all for drug money? According to Adam, the prices of illegal drugs are lower than when they were legal, so they must REALLY spend a lot in order to go broke.
Hope that made sense and was a good counter. Personally I don't really care since I will never even drink and don't care if Bob down the street decided to do too much drugs (even prescription) and died, as it was his fault.
OK, that's fine... but you are ignoring the actual crimes, and looking to punish as to what you see is the cause. There is already laws on the books that work. Child endangerment/neglect. Various homicide related charges could be imposed in that particular instance. What doesn't work is the pay for play law system, and the fact our corrections departments are literally being rewarded to keep people locked up longer. So by stacking crimes on top of one another including drug charges, gets the defendant more time. Coupled with the fact that many laws have been passed that double your time just for being high while committing the crime. How is that logical, ethical or fair? Have we forgotten that we as a nation have separated ourselves from that kind of barbaric justice? Do we have to define "unreasonable" or just keep it vague so a judge who's having a bad day, coupled with an overworked public defender can make sure to lock up any undesirables and get them off the streets.
Then you punish them for negligence (with the baby thing) not smoking weed. Look at booze. It causes a LOT of car accidents but we punish people for drinking while driving instead of just for drinking.
Eco Mouse so true. im on a grand jury and a good 70% of the cases ive voted on have been drug offenses
"you have the right to an attorney if you cannot afford one we will provide the dumbest overworked and underpaid attorney we can find"
Then it makes me wonder how any defence lawyers win cases on Law and Order.....
Why do they have to be dumb?
@@girlgarde Law and Order is cop propaganda, so of course they have to make the defense lawyers into a credible threat even if the reality is that the defense lawyers are seconds away from a burnout.
@@irondragonmaiden Cop propaganda? So I guess you feel that the police should be disbanded then which of course would lead to a massive spike in crime and a large number of people being killed by crooks.
@ryan macdonald When people say "abolish the police", it doesn't mean don't have law enforcement, it means replace the police with something else that's better
So basically everything sucks
Nope. Only the USA LMAO
that's conclusion
Only for poor people
Only in the USA
Government sucks
Yyyyep. Because "tough on crime" looks good to voters and "funding the defense of people who may or may not have done anything wrong" doesn't, for some reason.
When you think about it for a second, of course there's a conflict of interest, and we could change it if enough people paid attention. But that won't happen any time soon.
I think the Court System should implement a policy where all lawyers must do at least one public defender case for every 7 or 8 private cases. Idk though, I'm not educated in law.
You can't really forced people give their best. Forcing lawyers might make public defence worse off, where the lawyer prioritise his/her private clients and give less effort to public clients.
How about like a 2 years mandatory service? Similar to how some countries require mandatory civil/military service.
Anna we do it when doctors
So you would like to steal peoples labor from them and force them to pay for someone else's screw up (defendants or prosecutors). If you do that you will also take reduce their ability to pay their student loans and ability to take care of their families.
Or we could actually invest money in our justice system to hire more public defenders.
In the Netherlands, legal costs are covered by the government as a form of social relief, depending on your income.
That's what this is it's just our system is underfunded.
In the isle of man we have free healthcare
In the US we believe survival of the fittest is something to strive for.
Why provide healthcare to everyone, if you can’t afford it you deserve to get sick and die.
Why provide access to affordable education when we can charge out the ass for it with debts that never go away.
Why provide access to fair legal counsel when we can reserve it for rich people. Heck, in Arkansas you have to pay a couple hundred dollars to apply for your free attorney. If you can’t afford it then you can pay the state back with interest.
In sweden to
Same in Italy... That's how Europe works, I guess
To those asking about why do people become Public Defenders, here's the deal. Most people become public defenders for 3 reasons.
1. They genuinely wanna help people
2. It looks good on your resume, especially if you have plans to become a Judge or run for office
3. You can't get another job.
Of the three, 1. is obviously the rarest. Most people treat this office as a stepping stone. Being a PD would actually be a really great job, if it wasn't for the mountains of work and the crappy pay. PD gives you good exposure for being a lawyer. You get significant real world experience, and find out how the system actually works. However, for most people its not 'worth it'.
And sure, private firms have similar work crunch. But tell me. Would you rather come home at 2 AM in a Mercedes, or use the subway?
Source: Law Student who grew up around lawyers
Yashendra Shukla My moms a PD, for the most part her and all her friends only work there because there's no better options. Being a Lawyer sounds fancy and all, but it's actually super hard to find a job especially for new lawyers. Most of e ones I know ended up opening their OWN firm. I do know one lawyer in Arizona that loves it though.
Yashendra Shukla ee
I know I always vote against prosecutors for public offices.
Why would you subject yourself to driving to work if you have the option of taking the subway?
Although I suppose the best option is to take the subway and have an extra $50k in your bank account from not buying the Mercedes.
Why don't they go on strike? If they can't, why not do a slow down? Make it so you spend x10 as much time on each case so that things get even more backed up.
Understaffed defenses, less time per client, better paid prosecutors. What is this Phoenix Wright?
OBJECTION!
Worse. It's reality.
Pheonix Wright actually is a public defender.
It's Amerikkka
There was an open letter put out by a public defender- because there's a sort of prejudice that if they were arrested, they're probably guilty, their task is so much harder than that of the prosecution. There was a case where the prosecutor deliberately ignored evidence that didn't fit their story, and the defense simply didn't provide information that they didn't have, which would have made their defendant look guilty (remember: one side was outright lying, one side just didn't know). The prosecutor got a slap on the wrist, and the defender was nearly disbarred
Ciara.Chaya Oh that prejudice is definitely there. The jury suggests tot he judge what they think, and the jury is only made up of everyday folks. We say innocent until proven guilty but most regular people think "well he wouldn't BE here in the FIRST place if he wasn't guilty of SOMETHING."
I can see why they're underpaid if they're only a set of legs.
why did i laugh :(
FlashMeterRed lol
To the corner with you!
FlashMeterRed lols
LMAO
This is what happens when the system is designed to keep as many people behind bars as possible.
I've been on jury duty twice where public defenders were involved and I have to say, they were utterly unprepared.
End drug war, PD's would have a lot more time per client.
12 minutes per client? I too live in Minnesota but only got about half that...
Well, either way, all states should be higher if we were doing things right...
TheMasonX its probably 12 minutes excluding walking/drinking/eating and other daily needs
TheMasonX a fellow Minnesotan?
yea thats because most public defenders end up either quiting the law all together or get a job that actually pays at a firm
you have half client? sweet
its true if you ever played the ace attorney series, you would know that prosecutors have it better than the defense attorneys.
SATOHRA!
If the putrid defense didn't try to get in the way of the last rites for the deceased then perhaps the holy mother may grant them better fortune.
Did you just cite a video game as a source?
@@epiczeke7620 the man did
@@epiczeke7620 , One Piece is a Pirate anime series, but it seems to understand on why people will always be drawn to the life of Piracy, and how to stop the acts of Piracy compared to any franchise in the West, so yes citing a lawyer video game as a source that’s completely factually accurate about actual lawyers is better than frauds like Legal Eagle that pretends to be a lawyer.
That's...actually awful. I never knew any of this, except when the odds of them winning are stacked against them. I hope that this gets fixed sometime in the future!
I had to sit in on several trials and cases as part of my high school graduation requirements. It blew my mind though, when I saw the same defender for like thirty different people. Sixty cases that day, and only two defenders. I felt bad for one of the guys too, because he had misunderstood the terms of his client's sentence, and was arguing a moot point for about five minutes. They're way too overworked.
The US can be summed up like this:
Govt: "We have problems, we also have solutions"
Company: *gives money*
Govt: "What solutions? It's only problems"
No wonder Bernie and Trump have so much support.
Trump seems to have a lot more in common with the people giving the money than anyone else in that dynamic.
you've got it wrong this is the US in a nutshell:
Govt: we created the problem but are tricking you into thinking it's the companies that created it and we have the solution, just give us more money.
Citizens: *pays higher taxes, giving more money under threat of jail time*
Big Companies: *gives money to select officials to get loopholes in new cost-hiking laws to exploit*
Small companies: *are royally screwed through all of this*
Govt: "our solution didn't work but we have a new idea that will we just need more authority so we can *make* it work".
Rinse and repeat.
As a Brazilian Public Defender, I have to say that we face some very similar struggles here as well (understaffing, excess of cases etc.). As a difference I'd point that the Public Defender career in Brazil is very hard to join, requires previous practice and it's quite attractive financially, notably in some States. However, the overall funding, especially when compared to the Prosecution costs, is ridiculously low: in the Federal level, for instance, the Public Defense annual budget corresponds to 0,5% of the Prosecution budget. Still, it's a career of many personal achievements and that can truly provide a sense of accomplishment and social relevance.
It's because those lawyers are state paid and private institutions will always make more money because of that. State budgets simply do not have enough money to pay public defenders 100k a year or more
And nowhere in the constitution does it say that attorney needs to be top notch and paid 100k a year or more. You're acting as if the right to an attorney is not given with this system. You'd have to increase taxes immensely to fulfill your insane ideas.
@@Sr_Sinful or cut spending elsewhere. it would also incentivize investigations into potential fraud in the welfare system. Folks not in legally who might be collecting or people able to work but are gaming the system would be cut off saving the funds that can be reallocated to bringing on more public defenders. even with current pay levels, what they really need is more personnel to deal with the caseload
Sometimes they are paid under $30,000
so is phoenix wright considered a public defender?
He works in Japan different system
Tankerrex3 Japan has a better system
Pwnedgamer94 Yeah a soecity based solely off authorian levels of social engineering is better.
King Jon Starkgeryan pretty much, yeah
+Pwnedgamer94 - Actually, Japan's legal system is considerably worse. What aspect of it do you find to be enviable?
01:11 Isn't that sound in Sims when something messed up?
kakol20 yup lol
Adam Ruins Everything uses a lot of The Sims sounds and music
The biggest flaw in the American justice system is still that important decicions are made by a bunch of people who now nothing about the law and rather judge based on their emotions then on facts.
Well thankfully that was never the case w/ me (though had I gone to trial things would be different - I'd be facing 30 to life).
Adam ruins Santa Claus
Thomas Riley your parents did that for you
Thomas Riley The Dutch did that already
Vrissel Morant nope us ruined it because of how racist everyone here has been for a long time, unlike in European countries where racism towards black people has been reduced to a literal rarity since the late 1700's
Theres an upcoming episode on Christmas
Outlaw7263 what the hell does 'racisim' have to do with santa
The whole prison system is messed up
+JJ They actually did an entire episode on the prison system. The episode is titled Adam Ruins Prison.
No wonder Pheonix cant afford a car.
I appreciate the direction your going with Adam Ruins Everything. You have been shredding more light on incredible errors in our currently standing systems.
My brother is a private practice defense attorney. He started his own firm. He’s expensive but he typically has one client at a time. Having one client at a time means you have his undivided attention and your case is the only one he cares about. He’s good. But good luck to most people when it comes to affording him.
...Is the Sims 3 soundtrack public domain or something?!
As I get older and older, you basically realize how everything is motivated by the ole’ mighty Dollar
man our justice system is missed up!
Isaac Marston It's more of an economic problem than a justice problem. It's not the court's fault that lawyers are expensive and less people want to be public defenders.
+Cycling in Edmonton from the Eyes of a Teen I just read about that. Although it was said he was convicted of brutally beating a store clerk then shooting him in the head during a robbery. As an outsider the death penalty seems harsh but if I was that store clerks brother I might think otherwise.... abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/alabama-scheduled-execute-man-clerks-1994-killing-44054334
here is a new idea...STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!!
why should the tax payers pay for other peoples mistakes
because no innocent man ever went to prison in this country right?
i dont know why but i always hear music from the sims 3 in this show
Michael Keller because it's the music from sound banks, anyone can buy it and use it in their product.
Александр Олейников I know, but I'm just saying that it's in the game the sims 3 as music and sound effects
Michael Keller yeah I know, I play it all the time. Btw Sims 4 sucks.
Александр Олейников I have it but I've been playing the sims 3 more often then 4
Yeah when something like a toilet breaks
Not to mention that normally a case doesn't go to court unless the prosecution feels that they will most likely win. Prosecutors don't like wasting their time with cases they will probably lose. So a defender usually stands little chance of getting his/her client from going to jail. It's usually more about damage control, getting the client a ten year sentence with a shot at parole instead of a 25 year sentence without parole.
i sat on a jury last year. the lawyer for the defendant was terrible. He failed the defendant and was sent him away for 5 years. If he had a decent lawyer he would be free. I honestly believe that.
When I was on my trial he didn't even show up
It boiled down to she said, he didnt say. You can only vote on the evidence in front of you. So we kinda had to convict. If he took the stand, he would have created doubt and that might have freed him. He can thank his crappy lawyer for that, literal, injustice.
You never have to convict on a jury... if you believe he is innocent, it's sort of your responsibility not to.
For all you know, the guy was actually guilty and terrible on stand so the lawyer decided against it. Kinda unfair for you to judge without knowing much about the conversation between the lawyer and the defendant.
Im sure that is a reality in many court cases, but for the one I was involved in, all (ALL!) of us jurors made fun of the defendant's lawyer for amateurish tactics and just sucking at his job.
The public defender shortage is crazy. The first thing to ease the workload would be being less hard-on-crime-- make less victimless crimes crimes, and allow the ones that are to have lower sentencing so that there's less on the line. From there... someone suggested below making all lawyers obligated to taking on public defence cases sometimes... of course you'd have to limit that to criminal trial lawyers, not all lawyers, but there's something there.
Mostly, though, what needs to be done to fix this in the long run is to put more money in the system. Pay public defenders at least as competitively as public prosecutors. Make more people want to be public defenders, do cases on the state's money rather than the clients.
Legislate private firms to chip in to help. Institute certifications (assuming there aren't any, I don't actually know) that require new lawyers to spend so much time training in public defense.
Curtis Johnson Dude, they have a right to a defence. If they didn't commit a crime, a bad defense will never get them off
+Goabnb94 Or we could get rid of a lot of legislature that raises rates of imprisonment and costs of the judicial system (drug laws, prostitution, and gambling for instance). Lawyers already have to pass the bar and go to school, it shouldn't be up to anyone but them where they work. I would be okay with more funds going to public defenders, but taking away the freedom of lawyers forcing them to work as public defenders isn't the right solution and may end up harming the system. Why would you want an inexperienced public defender that doesn't want to be there?
I agree that inexperienced lawyers being forced to be public defenders is a bad idea, because of that. I would support obligation to all lawyers to ease the load of public defence-- but only as a temporary solution while the other more important things are dealt with OR if all the other things are implemented and there's still a lot of strain on the system that needs to be eased, still. Requiring criminal defence lawyers to do a few cases a year would be fair-- I'd give them some incentive to do their best before asking such a thing, of course. Make it a tax deductible or something.
Make the overpaid prosecutors fill in on public defense. Perhaps if they understood what the other side had to deal with, they'd be overcharging less and prosecuting less.
Slap an obscene tax on private practice and use it to hire more public defenders. Case closed.
***** It is really straight forward. Lawyers already pay income taxes. Just make them pay more when they represent the rich. The costs go up for everyone, but the service equalizes.
We don`t need good lawyers for everyone, we just need equally shitty lawyers for everyone.
Or at least some 1/2 decent middle ground.
Taxing the churches would be helpful.
yeah lets punish private industry for the failings of government,, thats fair
***** Everyone. Progressively of course.
This is why I have always said that the only color that really matters is green. There might be some inherent racism in the judicial system, but if you have enough money that can be negated.
Man, I love this show! Especially when Adam gets taught. :) it’s just great to learn stuff!
Wtf wood paneling sucks! It's out of style and it's the main reason why we have to remove them in our homes.
Also, Phoenix Wright is screwed!
Boogster Su I grew up with wood paneling, that my father made from the trees he cut down to clear the land to build a house on.
You would remove something because it's out of style? That's just wrong. I could imagine removing carpets because they're messy and hard to clean, or popcorn finish because it's rough to touch and falls apart, but to remove wood panels cuz your neighbors think it's less modern than their walls is ridiculous.
Jones Crimson+ We're planning to remove our carpets and replacing it with wood flooring, otherwise selling our house would be far more difficult. So yes, when you try to get other people interested in something, style does matter. It's super annoying.
But if you don't plan to sell any time soon, removing something you find to be "old fashioned" to make it look "better" is a matter of opinion, and not always based on how others might see it.
"Also, Phoenix Wright is screwed!"
He's not a public defender. He works for an actual law firm. It's just presumed by EVERYONE that he offers very low rates, and doesn't overcharge anyone more than they can afford. He's not a greedy person.
Also, the reason he can do this is that he runs the law firm he's part of.
James CyberLink it also seems to be implied that he does a lot of pro bono work.
Since Public Defenders are paid by the state, private Lawfirms will always be able to pay better. So there will always be more private lawyers than public defenders. The only way to fix this issue of not enough Public defenders is to get people to stop committing crimes and suing each other for pretty much everything.
How will the military survive without the ability to spend over 6.5 Trillion without accounting for it to the taxpayers of America? Won't someone think of the generals
OBJECTION!
OBJECTION!!! I object your objection
Dustin M SUBJECTIVE!
Dismissed
I'll allow it.
HOLD IT!
I will say my public defender for a minor trial did very good work explaining to me what to say and do and got my fines reduced from possible 1000's to just $75, so I am grateful.
1:04 that fall was faster and more realistic than most falls in movies
Simple way to fix this, get rid of the title of public defendant and require lawyers to have a percentage of their clients be pro-bono.
Yea, it's true. I was locked up for 6 years, and public defenders were so useless that we'd call them "public pretenders".
The solution is very simple so just prepare yourselves cause you might feel dumb for not thinking of it sooner.... ready?
END THE DRUG WAR!!!
Are you talking about ending the ruinous , and racist sequel to the Prohibition era? What is this madness? Logic has no place here.
Armendicus Yes, I know logical laws are not the American way but we should just take a stab at it like do with every conflict we jump head first into.
That's a solution for reducing prosecutions, and may heavily reduce their workload. But the funding issue is still present.
teddybruscie It could help. But the fact there's such funding disparity is a bigger problem. It literally should be illegal to fund the defence any less than the prosecution. I wouldn't be surprised if the reduced workload with no drug "offence" cases would lead to their funding being cut further.
pixel girl Majority of the issues we have is the direct result of the Drug War. So if we end the Drug War a d remove most of the policies created to aid it, we will have a better place to work from. You can't improve a broken system, you have to remove the broke pieces, fix the foundation and build on top of that. So we ha e a long way to go.
"I really thought you were into wood panels." LOL OMG, I DIED THERE
What does that joke mean? Can you explain?
+kazameltis
The courtroom they are in is made of wood panels. Rhea is in the courtroom a lot, so she can defend people. The judge thought that Rhea just loved the wood panels, and would come just to see them
For anybody that doesn't know, if you're ever charged with a criminal act and can't afford a paid lawyer, your best bet is to try to plea the charges down and plead guilty to those even if you didn't do it. In most cases you don't even get to meet your public defender until the day of your court appearance so there's no real way to build a defense. You can try to get a new court date, but if you're sitting in jail it could be a year or more before you go to trial. That's a year or more of your life gone when depending on the charge you could have been out in a month or two. There's no incentive to try to prove your innocence if you're poor.
So lock up the poor, regardless of guilt.
carultch
Yeah, that's what happens whether or not you want to admit it.
*****
What about it? If you can't afford a paid lawyer and get charged for something you pretty much will have a criminal record unless you want to spend a year in jail before trial
Bahumat IsBack There should be a way to reverse criminal records, for people who were proven to have either been wrongly convicted, or who took a plea bargain in spite of their innocence.
But there isn't. The logic is "it would clog up the legal system". It's just easier to mass convict the poor. That's the reality. It's not a black or white thing like people like to make it out to be. It's a poor thing.
Maybe I'm going crazy but.... Is it possible that the company who owns the prision system do something to cut the budget for them so they lose more cases and get more people incarcerated, thus making more money?
Chara Jones no you're not going crazy, you're just thinking the Pure Capitalist Smart way. Save money for everything.
I mean it's just... Screw it, these people have denied parole, extended prision sentences, and destroyed people's minds all for the sake of profits. Who says a little bribery here, and a little lobbying there to cut down on the odds people will be deemed "not guilty" all for the sake of profits is that much worse?
Its quite possible. But, its also possible that politicians and voters just think that it is more important to punish criminals than it is to give them a fair trial.
My state doesn't have private prisons, but our public defender system is so underfunded they often can't meet their legal duty and are in perpetual crisis mode and often are reduced to doing triage
...the more I watch this show to more I feel like I should organize a revolution.
They should've done a christmas special where Adam talks about the origin of christmas presents, christmas three, and the saint we based santa on is actually from turkey ;)
so it turns out we know why phoenix wright gets away with being such a goof
Gotta keep those prisons full somehow- what better way that setting up poor, working, and lower middle class people to fail?
I had to do the Public Defender's job for my wife because all they wanted to do was plea bargin and didn't even look at the fabricated evidence that contained misspellings, false information and more. One look at the "receipt" would show this but they didn't bother.
I like how this video makes things look better than it actually is
So... Like Phoenix Wright, but busier? XD
Do the truth behind Buzzfeed
pls do we all know they fake their stories and set them up to peered into a certain favor :D
Now that would be entertaining. They could do the video in standard Buzzfeed style to really tick them off.
He's too liberal to raise his standards so high.
As someone who has been in the system, due to my own bad choices, I can tell you from experience that the judicial system is a mess. And I don't live in a metropolitan area. The public defenders mean well but they're overworked and in some cases they're the bottom of the class lawyers. The people who barely passed the bar. They don't want to do anything except meet you and ask you to sign a plea bargain. And they're in the courtroom all day every day and they're pals with the prosecution. On the one hand it gives them an advantage because they get offered fair deals but on the other hand, they don't want to step on the DAs toes for one client. I actually saw with my own eyes a public defender file a motion of discovery against the DA for misconduct because his client made a serious accusation...the DA even went to trial. Immediately after that every single defendant in the courtroom that day had his/her plea bargain pulled off the table by the DA. Just out of spite.
The "lawyers at private firms up to double" part got me. More like 5 to 10 times as much or more. It's even worse than she makes it out to be in my experience.
That's what I thought, too. When he said double, I thought, "Double? It has to be way more than that."
Public defender, AKA prison delivery.
I can't wait for the whole job of "lawyering" to be computerised, so all parties will receive an equal amount of time, and effort into digital discovery.
+Haaklong Nguyệt if that would ever happen, trust the rich to have the best algorithms and databases. It is practically impossible to have a society where the rich (or the new elite, ie. the new rich) would not have better resources than the poor. It will never be accomplished in any form of capitalism or socialism or any other government type for that matter.
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Love that they put in The Sims music when someone's toilet breaks.
What I enjoy about this episode is watching the judge enjoying Adam's conviction
Phoenix Wright: "OBJECTION! This video contains a contradiction!"
Judge: "Where is it?"
Phoenix Wright: "Um...right in the middle?"
Miles Edgeworth: "Tsk, tsk, tsk. Clearly, Mr. Wright is the only one stalling so he can buy time."
Judge: "I agree with the prosecution on this statement. Mr. Wright, you bought yourself a penalty for stalling."
**Health bar gets completely erased**
Judge: "I think I have heard enough of this trial..."
Miles Edgeworth: "Better luck next time, Mr. Wright."
Phoenix Wright: *No! I need to find evidence to prove that this video has a contradiction.*
Judge: "I shall now declare a verdict..."
Phoenix Wright: *Dammit, there isn't any contradiction!*
Judge: "I hereby declare the defendant..." *Guilty* ..."Court is adjourned." **Slams gavel**
what laywer actually wants to help people like seriously help people. If it wasn't for the money no one would even be a lawyer
Most of them are doing it because they can't get a better job. There are a few that are truly selfless.
***** It depends. The ones working at the public law center are not great attorneys.
BUT, some of the public defenders I have met are the BEST attorneys. In fact, the public defender is a coveted job and tough to get. I have great respect for public defenders.
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Shhhh.
Don't think about it.
***** I'm not bemoaning anyone. I'm saying its always 1 percent of something. Someone that strays from the flock. I don't want anyone helping anybody for free.
Well most people become public defenders for 3 reasons.
1. They genuinely wanna help people
2. It looks good on your resume, especially if you have plans to become a Judge or run for office
3. You can't get another job.
Of the three, 1. is obviously the rarest. Most people treat this office as a stepping stone.
We need more of this like a 30 minute video.
I pove watching these adam ruins everything shows, really puts a cracking smile on me :D
You guys should do one on EMT's, basically the same story there, sadly
2:13 Guys I found PewDiePie’s legs
Fun fact , some lawyers even take drama classes
I live In New Jersey and what I found is that the Public defenders are understaffed and usually seem untalented. I've been to court a few times and I used to watch lawyer after lawyer walk up to the bench and say hi to the judge and ask them about their personal life. What I soon found out was that many lawyers become prosecutors or even judges later in life if they can make the right friends.
I defended myself every time I ever went and did better than anyone I ever heard of who was in the same situations.
Everyone should allocate some of their time out of the day to read law. Just a little bit. Things like hearsay, or what needs to be proven in order to be be guilty of certain charges and what their common defenses are etc. Law is complicated but it's not rocket science.
I don't understand: instead of cramming cases, why not delay them to have enough time? The more delays, the more the problem will be lamented and eventually the system will be changed. Heck, make private lawyers be public defendant sometimes like jury duty is for the public, or something.
Delaying cases unfortunately would hurt a suspect's right to a speedy trial. Especially since the public defenders are state employees. It could (and likely would) be seen as state sponsored trial delays and would likely cause jails to fill up even faster with suspects waiting for trial who cannot afford bail or an attorney. Most criminal law attorneys have served as either prosecutors or public defenders prior to their entry into private practice. Honestly, criminal lawyers do have a right to make money just as much as other lawyers. One issue I'm seeing with so many people saying "make all lawyers take one public defender case every 10 cases". Unfortunately, the public defender's office is one of the most qualified to help those unable to afford a lawyer of their own. They know the environment their clients come from and they do work very hard in the name of providing representation to their clients. Granted, some of their clients arent the best to work with. Could you defend someone you hated? Could you provide a defense for someone you knew in your heart was guilty? Also, please dont make all lawyers serve in the public defender's office. The last thing I'd want is an estate lawyer or a worker's comp lawyer representing me in a criminal case.
Thyri Carver You make good points. Are there any efforts to address this problem?
Shadow Heart the amount of cases could causes decades in delay
Nel's Wolf More reason to find a solution. I saw this issue mentioned in Last Week Tonight and it is depressing and pressing. I'm trying to think of solutions.
In tv show they call it .... I can't remember? I feel like it sounds like the word layaway
john oliver
this grinds my gears!
Maybe this is why my public defenders have treated me terribly. I committed a crime while blackout drunk and with a previously clean record, I don't remember any of it. I woke up with my left knee bloody, apparently a police k9 tore up my leg. Yet my pd told me that anything that happened to me I deserved, and that if it were up to him, he'd give me a much worse sentence than what I recieved... I was thinking the whole time but it is up to you :,( and he also repeatedly told me I have no case and if I try to fight it and lose I'll go to prison for 3 years. There were no tapes but he told me nobody would believe my word over officers... I basically was given no choice but to accept whatever offer he gave me, with him constantly telling me I'll probably go to jail.. (I didn't go to jail, but I have to pay a huge load of money for the next few years)
Rhea Butcher is one hot public defender.
xvCentral hard to know which side you're playing for here bub
Izzat pants? Just walkin around like some guy on a tuesday afternoon?
I dont like where this is going.
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J. Edgar Hoover on a Tuesday afternoon, fellow Jontron fan.
Hello
And on top of everything said in this video, I remember listening on NPR that the public defendant situation was so bad that a few states had order a few private law firms to take on public defendant cases. They were ordered to take on pro bono work because of the shortage of overworked and over stretched public defenders.
That is true the D.P.D is often underfunded, this also means that most of the time they often refuse cases that they see might not be winnable or might be difficult. This sometimes does mean that some innocent people can't get the legal help they need have are forced to plead guilty to a crime they did not commit...
Also something they missed is that in ALL criminal matters prosecution is always employed by the state.
No, it's Adam Gets Ruined (Again)
Is that defender doing an imitation of Ted from Scrubs?
she could easily play JFK...
I mean the one at 1:06.
This one ties into the prison one. As public defenders basically present you with a plea bargain. Once you say your guilty even if it was just for the plea bargain. If you are ever in the court again you will be considered guilty based off your admitted guilt the 1st time. I know it's not suppose work that way but that is how it is. Especially in a prison state.
I actually knew all this. Thanks John Grisham!
Adam ruins The end of the world theory
So meta.
You know what would reduce the case load? Legalizing marijuana and overall stop dictating how people must live with the force of government.
2:14 How I would walk when I hit the corner of a table down there xD
hey this needed to be said
I am in love with Adam's sister.
His sister on the show, or his real life sister?
+Risa Takahashi I won't disagree that she's cute, but the synopsis of her actor Rhea Butcher is basically: Vegetarian, Feminist, Butch Lesbian Comedian. Or as I like to call it, "The Sentient Nuclear Runoff of Buzzfeed".
Points for tight continuity from the prison episode.
MeganekkoFury1126 everyone cares what you think
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Not the 1st time, I believe some episodes are aired out of order. Because the drugs and jail episode aired a week apart, but then they showed the Wild West episode before this one, so who knows?
Wild West and Internet.
The Sacred Lotus
Right.
Which video does Adam present his case?! I cant find it... D:
a thing that was missed about the Jury trial bit, is that, in many places Jury selection is skewed to get the stupidest people to be on the jury, that way they are easier to manipulate. if they find out you're intelligent, you're more likely to get dismissed for duty. which is also something stacked against public defenders.
Adam's sister is Phoenix Wright?
Objection!!!
That is whole point of your Justice System. That is why such long sentences are given to people with such such minor crimes. And if the Public Defenders can't do anything then they stay there forever or they accept the plea deal.
All so that the CORPORATION CAN EARN ALL THE PROFITS
Probably why so many people take plea bargains regardless of their guilt or innocence. I believe only a fraction of cases actually go to court.