You can do 4 Electrics with Kazuya, but you need to do twin-piston instead of heat bound (It's also nigh-impossible due to execution and it's a combo that will NEVER be done on a real match, but still cool stuff)
This is a balance problem, absolutely nothing cool about it. You can't convert your opponent on the air in a combo using electrics and Heat Burts like others Mishimas bc it's inconsistent. Can't you see the problem?
@@CursedParasyte I'm not saying it's not a problem, I'm just saying that you can do 4 electrics if you do twin piston after Though Kazuya is in a pretty nice spot rn, so balancing-wise I'd turn my eyes to nerfing some insanely overpowered characters like Yoshi/Drag properly
@@CursedParasyte who said that's not a problem? Unrelated statement. It is cool that it's possible to bound with twin pistons after 4 electrics, no need for the histrionics.
tbf I also hate how easy is to do 3 electric into bound with ervery Mishima except Kazuya who requires some execution when he was the og 3 electric into easy bound
every character has dumb high damage in t8. Kaz design is around him hurting you badly for mistakes because of his weakness he should do damage. Also that 89 is by using heat burst and dash in the same combo. Some characters have less execution and do more damage than him by using heat burst and dash
Does he really? I mean I know Heihachi is Harada's favorite and Jin is his golden boy. But Kazuya is in a pretty good spot right now in terms of balancing and he also finally got the respect he deserved in the story mode. So I'm inclined to believe that Harada doesn't hate Kazuya.
Kazuya feels so boring compared to the other Mishimas. His heat is cool but hes practically unchanged compared to the others. I don't understand his design choice. Especially with him being the big bad of Tekken 8
Yeah, I'm not asking for any buffs, in fact fighting him is cancerous but playing him is literally a snoozefest. Even Keisuke was playing a LOT of Heihachi and even Dvj who feel a lot more fun than Kazuya's boring basic gameplan.
I kinda like him staying "pure" as long as he is strong. I don't want them to give him a stance or something just to spice things up. He has cool moves in heat, I think it would make him a lot more fun if they either lowered his heat expenditure a lot or made the heat moves stronger. Make ss2 -12 OB or something since DJ gets the same move heatless and it's already a pretty slow launcher.
@@AfroKing. It’s very weird though cause it makes me wonder why the lighting changes Kazuya’s VFX specifically. None of the other hit sparks change color between stages and all of the other Mishimas keep a consistent electric color. I prefer the more blue color, but it’s weird that the color effect is only present on that stage.
I've saying this for MONTHS and no one gives a f***. This is the stupidest nerf in the entire game, and it's only for Kazuya. THE ONLY CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE GAME THAT RECEIVE A HEAT BURST RANGE NERF. This is a balance problem, absolutely nothing cool about it. You can't convert your opponent on the air in a combo using electrics and Heat Burts like others Mishimas bc it's inconsistent. This balance team is absolutely lame and desgusting bro!
Jun also received the same nerf. I used to be able to do b+2,1 into heat burst back in CNT but it no longer works since the actual release of the game.
Doesn’t matter too much the main reason to have that electric is for the ch df2 into perfect electric for insane damage, kazuya has way better lows than heihachi and imo better oki too, heihachi is the damage monster, reina and jin are the more all rounded and devil jin sucks
I can sorta see how reinas is possible to do 5 cuz shes shorter, but clearly some bursts have better downward hitboxes and i dont see why kaz n djin shouldnt be able to do it cuz it requires good execution to do triple and beyond EWGFs
@@Mo-pk4db If I recall correctly, in terms of range Alisa has the shortest and Kaz the second or third shortest (DJ is around the top10 range-wise, with Jack, Bear and Nina being the top3). In terms of hitbox, Raven has the worst and Kaz follows soon after. Other notably doodoo heat bursts in terms of verticality are Bears, DJ and Yoshi. (sorry deviljin, you can't have it all 💀) Most other chars have crazy diagonal hitboxes on their heat burst, with some of those connecting in situations their visual hitbox doesn't match (jin, hwo, law, alisa and nina are examples of phantom heatbursts)
3 EWGF -> bound -> 31df~df1,df2 -> b221+2 does the same 72 damage as 2 EWGF -> b22 -> df1,df2 -> 31df3 yet the second combo is easier, allows for more wall travel and doesn't waste heat
Kazuya has the worst Heat Burst in the game, I think. I can't even hit it after WS 1,2[T!], WS 1+2, b+2,2. They should be right in front of you and it should work but it doesn't have enough vertical reach.
Don't care at this point. We just move forward. Kazuya is still really cool and decent in the game. Only thing is maybe he should be the only one with a PEWGF but that's a topic for another discussion..
😂 😂 😂 Out of all the current busted Mishima's Kazuya and Devil Jin got nerfed again. Well done Tekken 8 Devs. You guys have left no stone unturned to turn people off from the game. Jokes aside if Devil Jin Kazuya and Steve are designed to be bad in Tekken 8 then shouldn't they not have the hardest execution. The level of execution they currently have should be required by a Dragunov Feng Nina Shaheen Yoshi King Jin or Lilly main because they're repeatedly top 10 every tournament consistently for at least a year.
and yea if whe talk about Elektric ! think about deez, kazuya 3,1 d,f he go in CD and you can do elektric but he`s gona be a EWGF and now campare this with the jin when he do D,F,2 he`s also too go in to CD and do elektic but what ever the reason he`s gona do PEWGF ! PEWGF whats the point of this ? why jin can do PEWGF and KAZUYA Doesn`t ? Do you think this is a fair ? tell me!
Hey man not everyone got time fa that high execution hell even KEISKE(as good as he is) cannot win because of all the EASIER CHEESY SIDE CHARACTERS just are better
Fix Kazuya, my dark skinned African American friend. ~To Murray.
the greatest tweet of all time
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"I'm not inclined to listen"
Why did MainMan say that?
Kazuya has the shortest range on his heat activation attack, i died so many times whiffing it.
your doing like a low kick demonman startup like paul's so yeah thats why
at least there is 1 thing not dumb af on kaz t8
“I ignore dvj because he’s meant to be trash” 😭
Dude.... That hurt my core. 🥲
0:40 forget electrics in what universe should this have landed
The explosion from the punch has got hitbox☠️☠️
you wont believe it but 3,1 into ff2 was already a thing since before so i guess thats why?
Jin has conqueror haki, that's why it don't touch but still hits.
Why? It looks standard to me
@@DeadlyRav33right 💀
i miss the old network test heat sounds
SAME I thought I was the only one. More oomph to them
You can blame MishimaStar
You can do 4 Electrics with Kazuya, but you need to do twin-piston instead of heat bound (It's also nigh-impossible due to execution and it's a combo that will NEVER be done on a real match, but still cool stuff)
That is actually really cool.
This is a balance problem, absolutely nothing cool about it. You can't convert your opponent on the air in a combo using electrics and Heat Burts like others Mishimas bc it's inconsistent. Can't you see the problem?
@@CursedParasyte I'm not saying it's not a problem, I'm just saying that you can do 4 electrics if you do twin piston after
Though Kazuya is in a pretty nice spot rn, so balancing-wise I'd turn my eyes to nerfing some insanely overpowered characters like Yoshi/Drag properly
Reminds me of when i labbed a 90+ combo with no walls or resources, with a 54 frame starter, months and i still havent used it despite having it down
@@CursedParasyte who said that's not a problem? Unrelated statement. It is cool that it's possible to bound with twin pistons after 4 electrics, no need for the histrionics.
Bamco after seeing this video: "we fixed the issue but the combo will now only be available for players that pays an extra $5.99
Fix Kazuya, my good fellow of african decent!
- Murray
Sir. Sir... sir! That's one too many electrics! Lol
It's about time he should get it back
I miss when Kazuya has Akuma Damage last year during CNT
JIN has ridiculous phantom range lol but other examples I agree with
Tekken 8 Kazuya in the CNT version was so much fun to watch
tbf I also hate how easy is to do 3 electric into bound with ervery Mishima except Kazuya who requires some execution when he was the og 3 electric into easy bound
89 damage is simply too much for kazuya
No how about we make difficult cool characters s tier instead of Alisa
every character has dumb high damage in t8. Kaz design is around him hurting you badly for mistakes because of his weakness he should do damage. Also that 89 is by using heat burst and dash in the same combo. Some characters have less execution and do more damage than him by using heat burst and dash
Kazuya SHOULD excel at high damage, so no it's not too much
Because Harada HATES Kazuya, his disdain for the character is unmatched
Does he really? I mean I know Heihachi is Harada's favorite and Jin is his golden boy. But Kazuya is in a pretty good spot right now in terms of balancing and he also finally got the respect he deserved in the story mode. So I'm inclined to believe that Harada doesn't hate Kazuya.
I've been saying this since the launch of the game. Kazuya's difficulty just doesn't match his power level
Kazuya feels so boring compared to the other Mishimas. His heat is cool but hes practically unchanged compared to the others. I don't understand his design choice. Especially with him being the big bad of Tekken 8
Yeah, I'm not asking for any buffs, in fact fighting him is cancerous but playing him is literally a snoozefest. Even Keisuke was playing a LOT of Heihachi and even Dvj who feel a lot more fun than Kazuya's boring basic gameplan.
His combos are boring
I kinda like him staying "pure" as long as he is strong. I don't want them to give him a stance or something just to spice things up. He has cool moves in heat, I think it would make him a lot more fun if they either lowered his heat expenditure a lot or made the heat moves stronger. Make ss2 -12 OB or something since DJ gets the same move heatless and it's already a pretty slow launcher.
Come on now. He is not boring than dvj 😂
@@luxolars dvj is boring said by a boomer
The real question is why are Kazuya’s electrics dark blue sometimes, but also indigo/dark purple other times?
Maybe different colors for prefect electric and regular electric
@@AfroKing. I just tested it. For some reason, only the coliseum stage makes his effects look more blue than indigo. I have no clue why this happens.
@chefvideogame oh then that's just the stage lighting being different on every stage
@@AfroKing. It’s very weird though cause it makes me wonder why the lighting changes Kazuya’s VFX specifically. None of the other hit sparks change color between stages and all of the other Mishimas keep a consistent electric color. I prefer the more blue color, but it’s weird that the color effect is only present on that stage.
It has black hit effect in it mixed with his classic blue lightning it looks sick
I've saying this for MONTHS and no one gives a f***.
This is the stupidest nerf in the entire game, and it's only for Kazuya.
THE ONLY CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE GAME THAT RECEIVE A HEAT BURST RANGE NERF.
This is a balance problem, absolutely nothing cool about it.
You can't convert your opponent on the air in a combo using electrics and Heat Burts like others Mishimas bc it's inconsistent.
This balance team is absolutely lame and desgusting bro!
The same ppl that made cnt kazuya made heihachi and the same ppl who complained about cnt kazuya are now complaining about heihachi
Jun also received the same nerf. I used to be able to do b+2,1 into heat burst back in CNT but it no longer works since the actual release of the game.
@@inzanity490 jun takes zero execution
Does Kazuya even still have the best Electric now that Heihachi can do omen input (f,n,df+2) for electric?). Granted, Hei can't mist step with f,n...
Doesn’t matter too much the main reason to have that electric is for the ch df2 into perfect electric for insane damage, kazuya has way better lows than heihachi and imo better oki too, heihachi is the damage monster, reina and jin are the more all rounded and devil jin sucks
Heihachi has the best electric in the game because the amount of damage he gets from it and the fact he can do perfect electric
i think from properties of the move alone not factoring in combo damage Devil Jin's is actually the best. Biggest hitbox and best tracking.
I can sorta see how reinas is possible to do 5 cuz shes shorter, but clearly some bursts have better downward hitboxes and i dont see why kaz n djin shouldnt be able to do it cuz it requires good execution to do triple and beyond EWGFs
Remember we can still wall travel even after heat burst
I think they've mentioned combos; it's take too long but somehow they only nerf Kazuya when CBT is out.
We abused it too much in the beta...
I think Kazuya is still the strongest mishima if u dont count jin as one
Steve’s heat engager range is also some dookie cheeks
Kazuya mains will complain that he has the shortest heat burst in the game..
.. while in reality he only has the second shortest one 💀
Who's the shortest?
@@Mo-pk4dbDevil Jin
@@Mo-pk4db If I recall correctly, in terms of range Alisa has the shortest and Kaz the second or third shortest (DJ is around the top10 range-wise, with Jack, Bear and Nina being the top3).
In terms of hitbox, Raven has the worst and Kaz follows soon after.
Other notably doodoo heat bursts in terms of verticality are Bears, DJ and Yoshi. (sorry deviljin, you can't have it all 💀)
Most other chars have crazy diagonal hitboxes on their heat burst, with some of those connecting in situations their visual hitbox doesn't match (jin, hwo, law, alisa and nina are examples of phantom heatbursts)
3 EWGF -> bound -> 31df~df1,df2 -> b221+2 does the same 72 damage as 2 EWGF -> b22 -> df1,df2 -> 31df3
yet the second combo is easier, allows for more wall travel and doesn't waste heat
The Devs dislike Kazuya. Thats why. Very simple.
I’ve complained about this since this first happened. His heat engager range is too short and needs to be buffed
Everyone has a heat engage except kazuya. Its crazy
Kazuya does have heat engage lmao. What he doesn’t have is a power crush heat engage which is an armored move that goes into heat.
@@Fatherless_boy i mean a heat engage thats actually worth something
@@PervySage723idk what ur talking abt dude. ff2 is great, db1, 2 is a good 13frame punisher, df1, 2 is safe on block
Absolute drunk developers.. just fix his gadamn heat burst
Kazuya has the worst Heat Burst in the game, I think. I can't even hit it after WS 1,2[T!], WS 1+2, b+2,2. They should be right in front of you and it should work but it doesn't have enough vertical reach.
This is so sad, nerf Devil Jin 🙏
THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING
Main man needs to be nerded. That’s why.
Don't care at this point. We just move forward. Kazuya is still really cool and decent in the game. Only thing is maybe he should be the only one with a PEWGF but that's a topic for another discussion..
Kazuya CNT heat burst for 4,99 euros on steam
its due to the reason kazuya has a pathetic heat burst compared to the rest
Na kar motu
😂 😂 😂
Out of all the current busted Mishima's Kazuya and Devil Jin got nerfed again. Well done Tekken 8 Devs. You guys have left no stone unturned to turn people off from the game.
Jokes aside if Devil Jin Kazuya and Steve are designed to be bad in Tekken 8 then shouldn't they not have the hardest execution.
The level of execution they currently have should be required by a Dragunov Feng Nina Shaheen Yoshi King Jin or Lilly main because they're repeatedly top 10 every tournament consistently for at least a year.
Now hes doesn`t have fastes EWGF! like say sindrom "if evry one super hero no one is a super hero "!
man did they fucc this game up, they are literally taking all the fun and challenge out of tekken and making it a beginner friendly cash grab
not sure if its legit patched i seen kazuyas do 12 electrics
How do you electric like that on a playstation controller man? Do your hands not hurt?
i'm used to it now haha
why can i hit 5 electrics with kaz and dj but i can only get 3 with heihachi?
heihachi's electrics doesn't have the low hitbox as kazuyas
why they nerfed my daddy 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ah, back when you could heat dash after heat burst and still combo
BUFF KAZUYA N_____
and yea if whe talk about Elektric ! think about deez, kazuya 3,1 d,f he go in CD and you can do elektric but he`s gona be a EWGF and now campare this with the jin when he do D,F,2 he`s also too go in to CD and do elektic but what ever the reason he`s gona do PEWGF ! PEWGF whats the point of this ? why jin can do PEWGF and KAZUYA Doesn`t ? Do you think this is a fair ? tell me!
old news bro
You playes on pad here aswell?
only on ps5 controller
@@mwkan772 impressive
Fix kazuya my nixxa
Kazuma need buff
Mwkan can you explain about Eddy Tekken 8 his not have many defense and easy get counter by other character😅and eddy he kinda trash this season
I don't play eddy but people say he's trash
hope namco buffs him..
@@mwkan772 just make one video about Eddy
Lame
With reina ⬇️➡️↘️3 df1 pewgf df1 pewgf 3+2 while back facing opponent 4 (tailspin move) while back facing opponent 4 wcdf4 2 2 ff2 🤡
does she mas qcf3 move?
@@РоманСмородов-л2в
Yes like akuma full charge akuma 1+2.
Nahh he's good
He can do ewgf.pewgf.cd1+2 for the same damge as a 4 electrics
He's good y'all just like to complain
Hey man not everyone got time fa that high execution hell even KEISKE(as good as he is) cannot win because of all the EASIER CHEESY SIDE CHARACTERS just are better
HAHAHAH
Yeah bro just pewgf
@@TheMainManJr oh god kaz can't do 4 more damage he has bad combos now
lol keep complaining it's good
bro what?
there's nothing cool about it,
all characters have the same heat burst range but Kazuya.
tf are u saying...