If you see the whole movie the guy he is slapping around has been urging Superman to kill his enemy's instead of incarcerate them the only way he could prove to the public this was a bad option was stage it to look like he crossed the line like Jester did. in the end it made his point.
@@DabroodThompson nobody listens to the womanizer who gives relationship advice. If you're gonna be an example you better be a good one, but your struggles aren't going to be physical. Everyone is watching, waiting for you to break. Any asshole can break.
@@DabroodThompson As an adopted small town child who came to the "big city" and tries to maintain his morals and standards he's infinity relatable to me... Way more so than Batman honestly.
I miss this Superman. The genuine "goody two-shoes" who keeps on fighting for the wellbeing of *_all,_* no matter how "naive" others think he is. I never cared how "cheesy" this kind of Superman is; we need him back.
predator H2O he kinda got replaced by new 52 supes for a bit, a lot more like a plain cookie in my opinion. While Superman before that and rebirth, those are the chocolate chipped ones you want to dig in to. What I mean is, 52 supes is just a generic superhero, fighting for what’s right and all of that. Rebirth and before 52 is cheesy and naive, like white raven said.
Espada2234 And that kid saying: "It doesn't have to be that way, Superman! You taught us that!", I would ask him that": " Before or after you stopped believing in his moral codes and even blamed him for your father's death?".
I was thinking the same thing. It wasn't fully shown here, but the way he systematically picked them apart one by one and intimidated Chester into submission had hints of the Batman style.
@@nbcxzdsa1 Taking a cartoon character too literal and replying to a year old comment...sigh... good thing you are so "woke" and above all these peasants right?
"Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better. And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor and justice are the reality we all share, I'll never stop fighting. Ever." Never ceases to give me chills and make my eyes water...
@@fkim9617 yeah but injustice is an alternate timeline. That Clark is different from this Clark lol. In real time line, Supes will never break down and become a tyrant just like that. Its bad characterisation
They're Kryptonian technology that can't be easily replaced, so Superman is reluctant to bring them into combat. It's not like he usually needs the help anyways.
What WON me over with this is how EVEN Superman admits how easy your emotions can get the better of you. Emotions are powerful. However, if we ONLY use that as a power fuel sometimes what once was so good and pure, can turn dark and deadly. That’s why it’s important to remember how easy you can lose yourself into your emotions. Superman knows that. I remember how in Justice League where it was Superman birthday and Wonder Woman and Batman saw how Clark was implant with the ‘Black Mercy’. He was living the life HE always dream of. A life, a loving wife, a SON. And when Bruce’s voice echoed in his head he realized this wasn’t real. And how he had to tell his own ‘dream state’ like son how he wasn’t real. You can feel the emotion in his voice as he hugs him telling him he’ll never forget him. And you can hear the angry in his voice when he was released of the ‘Black Mercy’. We saw just how scary he can be when you push someone like that. Superman is a very kind, compassionate character. And he is this way because he lose so MUCH. If losing a love one is hard. Losing your home. Try losing your planet, your race. You are THE VERY LAST of your kind.
I can definitely say that I've nearly lost my mind and sense of self when I'm between a rock and a hard place on multiple occasions, but I always find my way back.
As dumb as some of the plot elements were, this movie really sold me on Superman as a character. He stands for hope and compassion, but does so by showing the other characters (and the audience) why it's better than the alternative rather than just telling.
We really need this done in live action to show ignorant audiences (especially Snyder fans) the real Superman and put to rest their stupid "Superman is boring" nonsense.
@@toqkaizogou1636 to be fair snyder's superman isnt mean to be comic based. It's like the amazing spiderman, it isnt meant to have anything from the comics. It has a much more realistic tone to it in the sense its relatable.
That moment when Superman turns your "ultimate achievement in life, battle to the death, show we are better than him" moment into essentially a publicity stunt and a moral PSA...
Batman will break every single one of your bones, wonderwoman will decapitate you, but superman? He'll troll you so fucking hard you'll get ptsd every time you start an engrossing supervillain monologe.
Nicole Zhang ummm no. This superman is like rebirth superman. New 52 superman and man of steel superman are whiny emo assholes that do more damage than good
***** I'm interested in knowing why you think that. I personally thought it was a great movie, but love it or hate it, this movie was objectively structured much better than Man Of Steel.
***** They at least sort of attempted to explain his ability to take away super powers with heat vision, or at least they explained how he did it to Manchester that way. As for how he was planning to do it to the rest of his gang. I actually don't know so fair point there. Those are pretty valid reasons to not like the movie.
***** Yes he did. By being the "Perfect" boyscout the world look up to and thenresorting to unneeded violence, proved just how bad it is. Its just you who totally missed the point.
"I'll never go to prison" Says the guy with no powers, no money, no team, no equipment, no connections, who had had most of his atrocities broadcast on tv And supermans living in a dream?
But... Manchester Black does have powers, doesn't he? I mean, in the comics he's a powerful psychic who can create illusions and stuff. Did they change that for this movie?
Superman: stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself. Black: Your the one hitting me. Superman: oh no you brought this on yourself
"Well, you see Lois, I'm actually superman in disguise and I just work as a reporter to know about disasters as soon as they happen and squeeze you out of the bylines" -Actual superman quote from the animated series
In the comics, he just temporarily shut down Black's powers by using his heat vision to bruise and swell that part of his brain, tricking Black into thinking he actually maimed him, but in this one he actually destroys it and takes away his powers permanently.
Considering Black comes back in later storylines with his powers intact(at least in the comics), I doubt it he went that far. I mean the superbots might have done something to him later to suppress his powers like the rest of the Elite, but I don't think even Superman can pull off that kind of surgery mid-fight without risking severe brain damage.
@@josephnewsome2935cause all, and i mean absolutely ALL, superheroes play fast and loose with morals and there is not a single one that aint an asshole. Superman = asshole Batman = asshole Wonder Women, Martin Manhunter, Flasch, every Xmen, Spider-Man, Iron man, Thor all assholes that are pretending 'wanting to do good' when in reality all they care about is brawling with each other
@@josephnewsome2935 because manchester blacks power derives from that part of the brain and in the comics he only temporary shut the power down it was't taken away completely
I think this version of Superman is very relatable, the real world is so dark in so many places. We need hope, we can be good and kind without being weak and taken advantage of. I strive every day to still be like my childhood heroes even tho the world has continues to try an convince me only other avenues of thinking are realistic. You find people, when given the genuine opportunity, gravitate towards and respect the hell out of it.
Agreed, Brent. Even Terrence, someone who wanted the Elite's darker actions when his father died and he was so full of anger at Atomic Skull for doing it, knew that Superman didn't have to be how he was before Clark showed the truth of his plan. It shows how even when we give into anger at one point, we can rise above it and be about hope, which is exactly what Superman is all about. Even for how "corny" Clark comes off, he believes in the good in people, even when he said earlier in the movie that "Good doesn't mean perfect.", which he also shows here with how he tricked the Elite and the whole world into thinking he sank to the Elite's level, only to have a plan all the way through.
mhm - my childhood heroes I’ve never forgotten have to be Superman, Spider-Man, Asura (Asura’s Wrath) and Nausicaa (of the Valley of the Wind); if I were to boil down their essences into a single word each, it’d have to be determination, resilience, passion & love, respectively. our heroes aren’t perfect, nothing is ever ‘perfect’, because you can never satisfy everyone - doesn’t stop us from being as close to our heroes and the ideals they represent!
The thing most people keep forgetting is that Superman works outside the law. Like Batman, and Wonder Woman, and the rest of the superheros. So it makes sense for him to not kill, not just because of morals, but because it's not in his job description. They defeat villains, turn them in, and it's up to the authority whether or not to kill them. And they always refuse to. Why is that? If they expect vigilantes to just play judge jury and executioner, then they're as weak and sheep like as the civilians who'll turn their backs on super heroes when they need to complain. It's no hero's fault if the government doesn't want to do their own job. We already seen what it's like when vigilantes take these matter into their own hands with no repercussions, and none of those stories end well. So let's all point our fingers at the real villains.
@@july7498 Superheroes already break the law whenever they really want to. It's like how Batman says he doesnt kill because "we aren't the law", even though he routinely breaks the law everytime he decides to dress up like a bat and engage in vigilante acts like beating people to a bloody pulp, breaking and entering, spying on and invading people's homes and private business areas/labs, assulting people in their offices, etc, etc. No one gave them the right to do any of these things but they still do it because they have powers. They already make themselves the law.
Actually, I'm glad you did post this, because the clip of the climatic fight I saw, ends on a note that makes it look like Superman killed the final guy too. This is the real end of the movie, proving that Superman is still the same guy I've loved for years. In fact, he gives a rather beautiful speech about why he could never kill anyone, and the dangers of that kind of attitude.
This scene represents why I love Supes as a character. He has the power to simply sneeze away an entire solar system, arm wrestle Atlas and move galaxies. Yet, with all this power, all this might that could easily corrupt any man, he chooses justice, honour and humility. He is the representation of why it is important not to become that what you fight. Anti-heroes seem cool when you see them as badasses who don't need to follow the law to in order to dispatch justice, but here, in this very scene, he demonstrated why this is exactly the opposite of what we should he idolising. "It's so easy." sums up about every Anti-hero out there. They let their emotions get the better of them. Vigilante justice is not justice, that is an oxymoron. It is exactly being a criminal entails. Supes showed the value of his ideals.
Love this comment 10/10 just a minor nitpick this isn't pre crisis superman so he can't sneeze away an entire solar system but other than that this is pretty spot on. P.S. I know you were refering to superman as a character in general and not any particular version
@The Pshycho Path "Herp derp lol xd" Its not Superman's job to be judge, jury and executioner, he's not a God he doesnt decide who lives and who dies and he knows that.
Kanoy exactly. Super man has the ability to destroy the planet itself, but he decides to take the high road. He even achknowledge that it's easy to cross the line....but he does the right thing even when it's tough. How many of us would take the high road even if we had all of that power?
It's easier to take the high road when you have a choice. Superman outclassed everyone pretty easily and was in control in the end, so there was never a moment where he had to resort to murder. Anti-heroes are more relatable because goodie goodies like Superman don't exist in real life. You don't always have the power or opportunity to take the high road.
A great component about this movie that even most DC writers seem to forget is Superman fixes everything he breaks. Crashes into someone’s car? Helps them out.
And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor, and justice is the reality we all share, I'll never stop fighting. Ever. And if that victory cannot be obtained, than simply fight forever.
...or until somebody (like The Joker) kills Lois... or worse yet, makes Superman do it! Everybody (save Batsy, as he's too chickenshit!) has a breaking point. Lois being killed..? Goodbye Hero, hello UBER-TYRANT Superman!
Power does not corrupt. Absolute power IS to be absolutely incorruptible. WEAKNESS corrupt. Weakness of character. That's why Superman is the most heroic most iconic most super superhero of all time. That's why they call him Superman.
But humanity is sinful, i.e. weak by nature. Thus, all power exposes the weakness and corrupts the man/woman wielding it. Absolute power is one mistake, one flawed judgment, one moment of weakness away from absolute corruption. Superman himself has shown this multiple times in the comics and shows, it's why Batman keeps the kryptonite on his utility belt now at all times instead of stored in the Batcave like he used to do.
@@SarajevoKyoto You can be extremely powerful, yet understanding and wise enough to wield it responsibly and with clarity Yes humanity is sinful but I guess it really comes down what you believe in Can we defy our nature more often than not or are we more prone to fall to it? Regardless of that stance there are still those with power beyond most others that still know their place and appreciate their circumstances It's a weakness in character, avarice, and corruption of the mind that leads people to change, and people usually tend to fall to this But there are still shining examples in history of leaders, warriors, entrepreneurs and others who have had great power and influence and only ever used it for what is right
I like saying that power doesn't corrupt but reveal truth about person. Afterall when they dont ave to fear any consequences only thing left to restrain them are their own morals.
I’ll never understand why people want a dark Superman in the solid DC canon. For one-shot offshoots and genre deconstructions, fine; it’s an interesting concept to explore. But Superman isn’t that. I wish people would stop asking for that. That’s why we get weird shit like Injustice.
In this day and age, people seem so obsessed with bringing Superman "down to our level" when the entre point of his character is for him to inspire us to reach his level.
I agree with everything up to saying injustice was weird. I think it fits nicely into one of those off shoots you're talking about. It's one of the few times someone does that "dark superman" right to be honest.
In all fairness, Injustice is interesting. It reminded me of the Justice league episode where they fight the rogue Justice league. And seeing "our" Justice league vs a rogue one can really show you why ours is so great
I agree except for the Injustice part. It's far too easy to make Superman a villain. It's harder to make him a hero who will not abuse his powers for self-benefit. Making Superman a villain is not that interesting because it makes him nothing more than a mere obstacle for a hero to overcome.
@@OddDeity It's not about making him a villain, it's more about making him evil or taking him out of his comfort zone. In my opinion it is an interesting concept but has been overused and I prefer much more to see the good Superman we all know facing situations that put his morality to a test.
its easy to have ideals when you are a god. How about you preach your ideals to a father who needs to rob in order to get money to treat his son medical condition?
+BeefSoda And Superman would help them, and has in the past. Get the fuck out. this is no place for haters who don't understand the character and are too stupid to read the comics to know what they're talking about.
kaihedgie you dont read a lot of comics it seems. supermans power is limitless, he reverses time, flies faster than light. just check screwattack superman vs goku, they simply explain superman has no limits. in other words he is a god. look up super man prime. also superman always had these powers. if he didnt then he no longer would be super would he,
The both of them are basically what Superman would be if he wasn't raised by the proper people or wasn't allowed to explore other worlds as an individual. There's also Brightburn. He's what Superman would've been if he was vengeful and just wanted to watch everything be destroyed.
Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better. And on my soul i swear that until my dream of a world where everyone is saved and happy and none have to suffer becomes the reality we all share. I won't stop striving for it.
Even though he's alien, Superman is more human than so many people. However, he teaches us how we all can be better and be real heroes because no matter what people say, there's always another way to get the job done. Superman taught them that, just as he keeps teaching us too and I will never forget these lessons from him.
Superman is one of the greatest heroes in the history of comic books and movies. I don't understand why people think he sucks or is weak, but what some people don't understand what it truly means to be a true hero and that's all that matters. Not if he is the strongest or smartest, but to do the right thing for everyone and everything.
I wouldn't say Supes does the right thing for everyone and everything, it's way more complex than that. This movie is just a weak critique on The Authority, a pretty good comic that dealt with what being a hero would truly mean.
Because without looking into it the main thing people hear about superman is his power His power is the least interesting thing about him.. Huh basically we're all thinking like lex until we get to know him
Except that's the issue with Superman, who decides what a hero is? Just take the example given in BvS, when his dad (memory) told Clark about the heroic thing he did, saving the farm from washing away and prevented their farm animals to drown during a storm, he said his grandma baked him a cake because she saw him as a hero for doing that, which of course he was in her eyes. Then comes the other side of that situation, his heroic deed caused destruction to someone else's farm, namely the Langs' in this case, the Kents driving the water off lead that same water to the farm of the Langs, destroying most of it and drowning their animals. Would the Langs consider Clark/Superman a hero if they knew they were responsible? That's what Snyder was aiming for, no matter how powerful you are, your actions have consequences and that's why the happy cheerful flawless Superman of some of the older iterations just looks childish now. And yes some things could have been better with that movie too so I'm not blind to its flaws either.
People think he's weak because the writers for the comics and movies and shows generally suck ass. These are the same people that think that Superman is overpowered and boring, but then make sure batman always wins and gets the upper hand because of strategy, even when he realistically couldn't survive. He shouldn't be able to survive a hit from a villain like Bane, who could punch a hole clean through him and has no reservations about doing so. And he sure as fuck shouldn't be able to outrun or dudge an Omega Beam. Writers will break all rules and logic to make him win, but still call Superman overpowered.
I know! Maybe it was because I'm a comic nerd, but I was surprised ANYONE seriously believed it would end any OTHER way than them working together and respecting each other. THAT'S why people want to see Sups and the Bat on the big screen- working together, not fighting each other.
Them fighting one another would be epic and awesome, but the debates that people have and arguments that go through there is horrible that it ruins it in the end. But pretty much everyone can agree that them working together would be one unstoppable duo. See Batman/Superman Public Enemies for that.
Christopher Reeve had charisma is spades; among the tv versions, Tyler Hochelin, Tom Welling and Dean Cain all had their moments. Everyone else seems to have made their portrayal of the character powerful, but boring.
This is why Superman is my favorite DC hero. I once knew someone who always trashed Superman whenever I brought him up. They'd say he's "unrelatable," that Clark Kent is his persona that mocks humanity. He was born a "perfect, overpowered, distant alien." It's not about the fights though. It's about what they mean as a whole. What's unrelatable about a dorky English major from Kansas just trying to do the best he can? What's unrelatable about feeling overworked with the weight of the world on your shoulders? What's unrelatable about being scared that you'll fail and what that failure will mean in the long run? I don't read Superman comics for the fights, I read them for the man they're about.
Your talking buddies are wrong. Clark isn't a persona he dons to mock humanity. That's who the greatest heroes in DC, Jonathan and Martha Kent, raised him to be. Imagine who he could have become if Amanda Waller or Luthor found him as a baby. Imagine the devastation and evil. Instead, Kal-El became Clark Kent, inspired by the awesome humanity of a simple married couple from Kansas.
"If you think I'll just go to jail and rot, you're living in a dream world!" "The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity. Dreams are my specialty, through dreams I influence mankind."
@@zacharyriley4561 No. I didn't call Tim Curry a Legend. That was the name of the movie. "Legend". Lemme dig up a clip. ruclips.net/video/nThc8tPmB_M/видео.html
Batman: Clark, you clever son of a gun. Wait, since when do you have an army of robots? Superman: Since 19-always. I just didn't wanna activate them. Batman: We could use them. Superman: I'll see what I can do.
This movie shows us that Superman's real superpower is reigning in the temptation to abuse his powers. This is one of those Superman nuances that Zack Snyder never really understood.
this is why superman is one my favorite heroes, a true hero, he's not perfect, and no one asked for an alien to help humanity, he was raised and even after knew his heritage, still fought for humanity and his belief of justice and hope, (the latter is the symbol's meaning). even he can be smart enough to pull this off, you should be proud batman. yes it'll scare humanity, but it'll show them that killing isn't the way. this is a true superman, not the injustice one.
And here Superman reminds the west of something Japanese teen comics never stopped pushing : The importance of dreams. The drive to achieve something, the grander the better. While your dream might be to one day to write thought provoking bestseller, climb the peak of a mountain, or to start and keep happy family, it's the fact you do have this dream that motivates you through the hardships. It's the voice you hear when you're about to give up. The image of the future you seek. Quite honestly, screw ppl that think superman is cheesy. I know next to nothing about him (apart from nerd osmosis), but this is something the west seems to forget. So go on and dream. Chase the future of your design. Make *your* world a better place.
Well Manchester Black is one thing, but Superman is freaking Superman, one of the most powerful beings in the entire Universe. A guy who can easily annihilate planets with just his fists and can travel billions of light years in seconds. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the immense threat of such power. There is a reason why Supes is always listed as one of the strongest fictional characters ever.
+kungfumaster51 yeah, two reasons: 1)huge amount of fanboys; 2)bad writing. Two main reasons that allow the 5th weakest member of JLU main cast to even compete with the likes of Flash, Captain Atom or Dr.Fate. And yet, you people whine that second weakest member of the cast is sometimes allowed to make a few punches against your idol:D And no, it's not okay even for Black. His powers alone can deal a continent sized amounts of "collateral damage".
People supported the elite killing atomic skull becasue he was a villain who had killed people...What superman was showing them was if they want a someone who will kill the bad guys, who doesn't follow rule of law, who has no mercy, who does whatever they want becasue they have the power to do so and no one can stop them...how bad it can turn out for everyone else. again the elite were the same way, Black basically says to Superman, they'll do whatever they want and kill anyone who upsets or gets in their way... Superman wanted to show the world what a rogue hero can be like...and it scared them. I like the scene before the battle where Lois asks Clark why he needs to face Black, and he says he overheard kids saying they want to be like the elite cause killing bad guys looks fun...killing looks like fun...
to be fair so many people thought of Supes as a boyscout that that was one reason the injustice story line was created to show what he would have been like if he had decided for real to stop holding back
This is a great movie and it really shows why Superman is a great character. This is also proof that Supes is holding back whenever he fights anyone not named Darkseid or Doomsday. If Superman didn't hold back he could pull a Saitama and kill all his enemies in one punch.
@@lolstuffenjoy9880 if I remember correctly, the creators said Saitama can destroy his entire universe in 2 punches; the first punch to destroy the half of it in front of him, and the second to turn back and destroy the other half.
This is a large demonstartion of the real superman we all love, I don''t like what they are doing with the new movie, making a sort of Injustice Story Line, because the Superman there is a very delicate person that changed at the slightest bit of pain, this superman sticks to the true Ideals of peace and justice even when everyone else told him he was wrong, he is a true hero, and the games and movies trying to discredit him dissapoint me, but this reminds me of why Superman is still my favorite hero
"B-but muh Injustice" Read a book, people. The Superman from that universe is not the same as this one. This one also lost Lois to Joker in the Emperor Joker storyline, yet he never turned or even killed him for that matter. Someone did end up broken on that day though, and it wasn't Supes. Guess who it was, though
This is the movie, the scene, and the speech that made me a Superman fan, after literal decades of dismissing the character as boring This is peak cinema
I know this comment is 2 years old, but its true. I'm tired of seeing the same gritty old anti-heroes or the not-so-perfect goody two shoes with a dark past. I want a goody-two-shoes who can inspire us into becoming like them, or someone to look up to and to give hope for those in dark times. A beam of light in darker times!
Superman does something showcasing his capabilities as a god among men = fanboys bitching about how he's not supposed to be smart and have everything done perfectly without a single civilian harmed despite being a god-tier superhero with powers and brains to back it up Batman does or survives something impossible for a human because of plot armor/reasons = same fanboys cheer and say prep time and smarts solve anything.
I like both characters, but Batman's fanbase is the worst of any DC character. They've managed to convince themselves that Batman is a legit god because he's smart and knows martial arts.
I mean considering the success Henry Cavill is having with the Witcher and with Daniel Craig leaving the James Bond role, Henry's name has entered many rumor mills as the next Bond, it's safe to say he's doing fine. But I wouldn't call his time as Superman a total waste. There's a large section of fans who want him back as Superman, even those who didn't like the three films he was in, said that Henry was never the problem. His passion for the role is readily apparent. If he could partner with filmmakers who truly understand what Superman is about it would be a slam dunk.
It's a shame that when Superman alone he can create good plans and think well, but when Batgod is around, Supes suddenly loses all his brains. Too bad writers have to blow to batman fanboy kids.
I absolutly hate how most people and even writters forget that super man is actually super smart (pun not intentional), and then when you have other heroes along side him like Batman he just become a guy with super strengh that can fly
Because I like the scene and I'm glad you uploaded it I gave you a thumbs up, but the poor voices really damper the awesomeness of this moment. I figured it was intentional to avoid copyright issues cause people do that quite often. Whatever the reason, thanks for posting it anyways.
wdpk12 I didn't double check like an idiot. It's probably be good thing in retrospect as this would probably have been deleted a long time ago otherwise
I love how in this scene superman act the same batman principle but in a very hopefully and solar way. I love batman but is indeniable that in this scene you can understand why people love superman so much.
Superman being overrated is actually what makes him underrated. People always praise Shounen protagonists for always doing the right thing and never turning evil and shit when Superman is much much better when he is being the classic that he is, the symbol of hope
Because these days anime characters maintain that inspiration while current western media keeps trying to break down guys like Superman until they are anything but.
“This isn’t you… YOU DON’T DO THIS!!!” Amazing to see that even after being the reason Superman “Crossed that line”, he’s suddenly shitting himself when he gets smacked around
Chester tried a second time to corrupt Superman. didn't work that time either, and he ended up killing himself when he found out Clark was the real deal.
Man, I don't think George Newbern's voice matches for Superman, but his delivery was fantastic in this movie. He VA'd the hell out of this, mad respect.
this is the superman i love, and whenever people tell me tthey hate superman because he's too strong, i cant help but feel they dont understand what a good superman story is.
"No! It doesn't have to be that way, Superman! You taught us that!" Um... How can _you_ talk? Atomic Skull was killed just like you wanted. You got your revenge for your dad, thanks to Manchester. You hypocrite.
It's a mixture of fear of what Superman might become and stupidity on the kid's part. That's what happens when the wants of the people turn against them.
Superman is damn terrifying. The Elite work so well because of just how human everyone viewed them but Superman wasn't just a person, he's an icon. To see that fall is extremely terrifying. Couple that with what he is capable of and it suddenly puts everything in perspective. The Elite got cheers because they never were an ideal to strive for;
except the issue is people were starting to view these pychopaths as the ideal heroes. Like superman said he over heard kids wanting to kill bad guys for fun...killing for fun. If people starting following guys like these the world would be getting alot more violent
Alex Mansfield Hell we will be burning. The sick shit going through my brain alone is enough to terrify anyone. But people like me don’t go psycho because Superman exist to show them it isn’t right and there is consequences. If that fell, humanity is toast.
What do you guys think: Should I upload a version of this with better audio? Is it worth risking a copyright strike?
No need.
The Anti-Cynic how about just not uploading copyrighted material
No
yea just do it
Nah, dude, this version is cool.
So basically, superman just pulled a "it's just a prank bro" on the world.
Yes a very BIG 1
If you see the whole movie the guy he is slapping around has been urging Superman to kill his enemy's instead of incarcerate them the only way he could prove to the public this was a bad option was stage it to look like he crossed the line like Jester did. in the end it made his point.
XD I was just saying that is the literal summary of the ending and you beat me to the comment.
Well, Superman learned from the best.
Twocoolman115 This the kind of Superman I like. A well thought out plan to defeat the enemy. Batman would be so proud.
“Superman doesn’t need to be relatable. He just needs to be inspiring”
-Neil Gamon
doomsday clock
@@DabroodThompson nobody listens to the womanizer who gives relationship advice. If you're gonna be an example you better be a good one, but your struggles aren't going to be physical. Everyone is watching, waiting for you to break. Any asshole can break.
@@DabroodThompson As an adopted small town child who came to the "big city" and tries to maintain his morals and standards he's infinity relatable to me... Way more so than Batman honestly.
@@DabroodThompson For me it's both.
He's the main character of the main characters
*In the deep dark lair of the Batman*
Batman: *Smiles slightly* "Well played Clark." *puts away Kryptonite he was tightly holding on to*
forestfire101?
Yeah, if this was a Forestfire video, Superman would just have straight up killed them and Batman would just straight up kill him.
I can imagine he could of warned them through hidden messages in his speech supes has done it before
ToqKaizogou I see you’re a man of culture judging from your username
@@michaelrhett4958 that I am
I miss this Superman. The genuine "goody two-shoes" who keeps on fighting for the wellbeing of *_all,_* no matter how "naive" others think he is. I never cared how "cheesy" this kind of Superman is; we need him back.
Well luckily we have him back in the comics
Zack Snyder is a moron.
He's way better than the new 52 one
What do you mean " back" ?
predator H2O he kinda got replaced by new 52 supes for a bit, a lot more like a plain cookie in my opinion. While Superman before that and rebirth, those are the chocolate chipped ones you want to dig in to. What I mean is, 52 supes is just a generic superhero, fighting for what’s right and all of that. Rebirth and before 52 is cheesy and naive, like white raven said.
since this was televised, I have to wonder just how close ol' Bruce came to pulling that kryptonite out of the safe.
plot twist: he planned it all along
Talented Elite that would... actually be pretty funny.
Talented Elite don't know if you watched Justice League: Doom but the ending may surprise you.
Bet Metropolis had a pretty slow week of crime afterwards, low-level hoods walking on eggshells.
Asher Tye
That's what I was thinking . I would like to see a movie in this style with Superman and Batman like the public enemies movie they did.
THIS was a plan that even BATMAN would be impressed with.
1977Melville No he played it like Superman.
Espada2234 And that kid saying: "It doesn't have to be that way, Superman! You taught us that!", I would ask him that": " Before or after you stopped believing in his moral codes and even blamed him for your father's death?".
Iago Luíz I was like that too. Like shut up boy he'd still be alive if you hadn't dashed off to the battle in the first place
Batman: "Pfffff I could have done better..."
I was thinking the same thing. It wasn't fully shown here, but the way he systematically picked them apart one by one and intimidated Chester into submission had hints of the Batman style.
Basically, what he said is: "Be _fucking_ grateful I'm not evil."
Wrong type of thinking.. sigh..
No, he's saying that even with enormous power, the right thing should always win out. He sees himself as beneath and a servant of morality.
@@nbcxzdsa1 Taking a cartoon character too literal and replying to a year old comment...sigh... good thing you are so "woke" and above all these peasants right?
ImAviex What’s your point
ImAviex Cause it's just a fucked up way of thinking and totally misses the point.
"Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better. And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor and justice are the reality we all share, I'll never stop fighting. Ever."
Never ceases to give me chills and make my eyes water...
As cheesy as it might seem. It’s actually kinda powerful and heartwarming
@@pheniellanz5271 Agreed. All of the best superhero movies are cheesy (in a charming way).
@@halo4xgamer why do we find things cringe
Not until Jokers says “Hello” (injustice reference if you don’t get it)
@@fkim9617 yeah but injustice is an alternate timeline. That Clark is different from this Clark lol. In real time line, Supes will never break down and become a tyrant just like that. Its bad characterisation
"It was just a prank bro look the camera it right over there"
gone sexual
This is Jackass !!
Hate to join in on the fun... "YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D!"
Gun pulled
Michael Dyer the camera is hidden in my jacket
Getting slapped by superman is like getting slapped by a house.
A house? More like being slapped by a planet.
Oluf The Explorer I'm surprised his head was still intact. I was expecting his head to spin around in a looney tune kind of way
Indeed, and that wasn't even a punch, it was a back hand bitch slap xD
Oluf The Explorer ikr
Hooba Dooba hello, we cross paths once again
Superman's army of robots does not get used enough.
They're sort of like palpatines red guard, bad ass to be sure but almost always unneeded by their masters
So this guy is an elite damn most elites from halo are bigger than him 😂😂😂😂😂😂
They're Kryptonian technology that can't be easily replaced, so Superman is reluctant to bring them into combat. It's not like he usually needs the help anyways.
Supermandroid
He stopped using them after one of them malfunctioned (or was hacked or something) and killed Donna Troy.
What WON me over with this is how EVEN Superman admits how easy your emotions can get the better of you. Emotions are powerful. However, if we ONLY use that as a power fuel sometimes what once was so good and pure, can turn dark and deadly. That’s why it’s important to remember how easy you can lose yourself into your emotions. Superman knows that. I remember how in Justice League where it was Superman birthday and Wonder Woman and Batman saw how Clark was implant with the ‘Black Mercy’. He was living the life HE always dream of. A life, a loving wife, a SON. And when Bruce’s voice echoed in his head he realized this wasn’t real. And how he had to tell his own ‘dream state’ like son how he wasn’t real. You can feel the emotion in his voice as he hugs him telling him he’ll never forget him. And you can hear the angry in his voice when he was released of the ‘Black Mercy’. We saw just how scary he can be when you push someone like that. Superman is a very kind, compassionate character. And he is this way because he lose so MUCH. If losing a love one is hard. Losing your home. Try losing your planet, your race. You are THE VERY LAST of your kind.
Can I get the SparkNotes version?
And remember this line? "I'm not the man who killed President Luthor. Right now, I wish to Heaven that I were, but I'm not."
I can definitely say that I've nearly lost my mind and sense of self when I'm between a rock and a hard place on multiple occasions, but I always find my way back.
Yip yap
As dumb as some of the plot elements were, this movie really sold me on Superman as a character. He stands for hope and compassion, but does so by showing the other characters (and the audience) why it's better than the alternative rather than just telling.
I agree.This is my superman,I wonder if they do this in live action.Superman is the reason why I make my own original created superhero characters.
Well, not really. He stands for TRUTH, JUSTICE and the AMERICAN WAY. That's his shtick from the beginning.
We really need this done in live action to show ignorant audiences (especially Snyder fans) the real Superman and put to rest their stupid "Superman is boring" nonsense.
@@thisisaname5589 and what those words mean has changed over the years.
@@toqkaizogou1636 to be fair snyder's superman isnt mean to be comic based. It's like the amazing spiderman, it isnt meant to have anything from the comics. It has a much more realistic tone to it in the sense its relatable.
Superman can slap with the force of 1000 pimps
Good one.
A Boeing 727
Keeping that super pimp hand Strong!
PIMPIIIIIN, PIMPIN PIMPIN!
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A Boeing 727 😂
That moment when Superman turns your "ultimate achievement in life, battle to the death, show we are better than him" moment into essentially a publicity stunt and a moral PSA...
Batman will break every single one of your bones, wonderwoman will decapitate you, but superman?
He'll troll you so fucking hard you'll get ptsd every time you start an engrossing supervillain monologe.
@@ADAJ342 no. batman and wonder woman don't kill.
@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 , wonderwoman doesn’t USUALLY kill. She's a lot more flexible than batman.
>Spends a good chunk of a movie trying to push Superman over the edge
>Superman snaps
>*Surprised Pikachu face*
I've got to admit, this scene alone has made me respect Superman a lot more.
indi hays It's all about the writing. Lazy writers with no understanding of his power and character ruin him.
indi hays 😂😂 superman doesn't kill but some villains have to die there just gonna keep coming back over and over
Kurt2012007 Cough man of Steel cough new 52 cough
Nicole Zhang ummm no. This superman is like rebirth superman. New 52 superman and man of steel superman are whiny emo assholes that do more damage than good
indi hays for me...
Superman can go f himself
THIS is how you do a modern Superman.
***** I'm interested in knowing why you think that. I personally thought it was a great movie, but love it or hate it, this movie was objectively structured much better than Man Of Steel.
***** They at least sort of attempted to explain his ability to take away super powers with heat vision, or at least they explained how he did it to Manchester that way. As for how he was planning to do it to the rest of his gang. I actually don't know so fair point there. Those are pretty valid reasons to not like the movie.
He did prove them wrong. He proved how wrong it was to resort to what they do.
***** Yes he did. By being the "Perfect" boyscout the world look up to and thenresorting to unneeded violence, proved just how bad it is.
Its just you who totally missed the point.
***** They side with him again because they realize how wrong it is when they see the perfect boyscout "resort" to it. You missed the point.
"I'll never go to prison"
Says the guy with no powers, no money, no team, no equipment, no connections, who had had most of his atrocities broadcast on tv
And supermans living in a dream?
He had broken out fairly recently, but by the end of it, he's a bit of a cow, if you know what I'm sayin' :V
Aah these super types always seem to find a way to bounce back But whatever
kaihedgie I understood that reference
If he had gone to prison he would've killed himself and learned nothing.
But... Manchester Black does have powers, doesn't he? I mean, in the comics he's a powerful psychic who can create illusions and stuff. Did they change that for this movie?
Superman: stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself.
Black: Your the one hitting me.
Superman: oh no you brought this on yourself
Ah, TFS reference. Nice.
Freeza how did u get here don’t get me wrong glad to have ya but I got questions
Kidney punch, kidney punch, and pauseeeeee kidney punch
"You ARE crying Chester...like a bitch "
Kidney punch, kidney punch ....and where was I, oh yes....kidney punch
Dignity, Honor and Justice. I'd lay down my life for that.
Great speech but never gonna happen, Justice is laughable there is no Justice in this world so is Dignity and Honor
My dog just farted in my face and it smelled really good :(
@@leviathan5787 there is justice in this world, its just very rare
@@leviathan5787 you're subscribed to dream, I doubt you're old enough to drive a car
@@funnelingspace9268 not a car but motorcycle dumb fuck and second I didn't even know I was subscribe to him
Even after all of that annoyance from those enemies, Superman still stayed true to himself :3
The Faneko well yeah otherwise he would be a shitty hero
That's truly what makes him Superman; his personal code can be tested, but it will ultimately never break.
@@anonym7684 cough cough *BVS* cough cough
@@diegodelafuente5056 cough cough INJUSTICE cough cough
@@wackobro3782 what?
The only time Superman has ever moved me to tears.
"But luckily, I'm not you. And I never will be."
Clark Moves me often. He's the top superhero of all Time.
He did injustice: God's amongst us
when he died against apocalypse in Death of Superman
Injustice is non canon. The real canon Superman will never break that easy. It would take a hell of a lot more
When he took time off his dying days to still help a suicidal teen in All-Stars Superman was really moving for me.
Seriously WHY is it so hard for the live action movies to write something like this for SUPERMAN. Seriously!
Because the big wigs at WB hate Superman :V
Because they're far too concerned about putting *their* mark on the character than they are with simply writing a good story.
@@thefurrybastard1964 your absolutely right batman.
@@OwO377 Thank you, Citizen.
Because the live action movies ‘need to be more edgy and realistic’
That moment you realize that Superman is a master troll.
As if Superman from the Animated Series wasn't enough of a giveaway.
"Well, you see Lois, I'm actually superman in disguise and I just work as a reporter to know about disasters as soon as they happen and squeeze you out of the bylines"
-Actual superman quote from the animated series
Superman indeed did a little trolling
Superman was the Ultimate Troll during the Silver Age.
@@carloszapata847 and lots of gorillas for some reason
In the comics, he just temporarily shut down Black's powers by using his heat vision to bruise and swell that part of his brain, tricking Black into thinking he actually maimed him, but in this one he actually destroys it and takes away his powers permanently.
Considering Black comes back in later storylines with his powers intact(at least in the comics), I doubt it he went that far. I mean the superbots might have done something to him later to suppress his powers like the rest of the Elite, but I don't think even Superman can pull off that kind of surgery mid-fight without risking severe brain damage.
Well at last he not kill him
So why doesn't he do the same thing with other villains
@@josephnewsome2935cause all, and i mean absolutely ALL, superheroes play fast and loose with morals and there is not a single one that aint an asshole.
Superman = asshole
Batman = asshole
Wonder Women, Martin Manhunter, Flasch, every Xmen, Spider-Man, Iron man, Thor
all assholes that are pretending 'wanting to do good' when in reality all they care about is brawling with each other
@@josephnewsome2935 because manchester blacks power derives from that part of the brain and in the comics he only temporary shut the power down it was't taken away completely
I think this version of Superman is very relatable, the real world is so dark in so many places. We need hope, we can be good and kind without being weak and taken advantage of. I strive every day to still be like my childhood heroes even tho the world has continues to try an convince me only other avenues of thinking are realistic. You find people, when given the genuine opportunity, gravitate towards and respect the hell out of it.
Agreed, Brent. Even Terrence, someone who wanted the Elite's darker actions when his father died and he was so full of anger at Atomic Skull for doing it, knew that Superman didn't have to be how he was before Clark showed the truth of his plan. It shows how even when we give into anger at one point, we can rise above it and be about hope, which is exactly what Superman is all about. Even for how "corny" Clark comes off, he believes in the good in people, even when he said earlier in the movie that "Good doesn't mean perfect.", which he also shows here with how he tricked the Elite and the whole world into thinking he sank to the Elite's level, only to have a plan all the way through.
mhm - my childhood heroes I’ve never forgotten have to be Superman, Spider-Man, Asura (Asura’s Wrath) and Nausicaa (of the Valley of the Wind); if I were to boil down their essences into a single word each, it’d have to be determination, resilience, passion & love, respectively.
our heroes aren’t perfect, nothing is ever ‘perfect’, because you can never satisfy everyone - doesn’t stop us from being as close to our heroes and the ideals they represent!
Hes not the ppl are . This would have happen because ppl will get tired of that same old same old.
How quickly Black’s tune changed when Superman lifted his *restrictions*
“It’s enough because you’re losing” - Vegeta
The thing most people keep forgetting is that Superman works outside the law. Like Batman, and Wonder Woman, and the rest of the superheros. So it makes sense for him to not kill, not just because of morals, but because it's not in his job description. They defeat villains, turn them in, and it's up to the authority whether or not to kill them. And they always refuse to. Why is that? If they expect vigilantes to just play judge jury and executioner, then they're as weak and sheep like as the civilians who'll turn their backs on super heroes when they need to complain. It's no hero's fault if the government doesn't want to do their own job. We already seen what it's like when vigilantes take these matter into their own hands with no repercussions, and none of those stories end well. So let's all point our fingers at the real villains.
Then he's a hypocrite
@@friedfrog5447 How?
@@july7498 Superheroes already break the law whenever they really want to. It's like how Batman says he doesnt kill because "we aren't the law", even though he routinely breaks the law everytime he decides to dress up like a bat and engage in vigilante acts like beating people to a bloody pulp, breaking and entering, spying on and invading people's homes and private business areas/labs, assulting people in their offices, etc, etc. No one gave them the right to do any of these things but they still do it because they have powers. They already make themselves the law.
@@friedfrog5447 But how is superman a hipocrite
@@july7498 Acting like he's upholding the law when he really breaks it
Actually, I'm glad you did post this, because the clip of the climatic fight I saw, ends on a note that makes it look like Superman killed the final guy too. This is the real end of the movie, proving that Superman is still the same guy I've loved for years. In fact, he gives a rather beautiful speech about why he could never kill anyone, and the dangers of that kind of attitude.
This scene represents why I love Supes as a character.
He has the power to simply sneeze away an entire solar system, arm wrestle Atlas and move galaxies. Yet, with all this power, all this might that could easily corrupt any man, he chooses justice, honour and humility. He is the representation of why it is important not to become that what you fight. Anti-heroes seem cool when you see them as badasses who don't need to follow the law to in order to dispatch justice, but here, in this very scene, he demonstrated why this is exactly the opposite of what we should he idolising.
"It's so easy." sums up about every Anti-hero out there. They let their emotions get the better of them. Vigilante justice is not justice, that is an oxymoron. It is exactly being a criminal entails.
Supes showed the value of his ideals.
Love this comment 10/10
just a minor nitpick this isn't pre crisis superman so he can't sneeze away an entire solar system but other than that this is pretty spot on.
P.S. I know you were refering to superman as a character in general and not any particular version
@The Pshycho Path "Herp derp lol xd" Its not Superman's job to be judge, jury and executioner, he's not a God he doesnt decide who lives and who dies and he knows that.
Kanoy exactly. Super man has the ability to destroy the planet itself, but he decides to take the high road. He even achknowledge that it's easy to cross the line....but he does the right thing even when it's tough. How many of us would take the high road even if we had all of that power?
It's easier to take the high road when you have a choice. Superman outclassed everyone pretty easily and was in control in the end, so there was never a moment where he had to resort to murder. Anti-heroes are more relatable because goodie goodies like Superman don't exist in real life. You don't always have the power or opportunity to take the high road.
Some people aren’t smart enough to understand the message
A great component about this movie that even most DC writers seem to forget is Superman fixes everything he breaks. Crashes into someone’s car? Helps them out.
And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor, and justice is the reality we all share, I'll never stop fighting. Ever.
And if that victory cannot be obtained, than simply fight forever.
the only other option is giving up and surrendering...which is unacceptable.
FIGHT FOREVER, GUARDIAN!!!
“A never ending battle”
"Then you are living a fool's dream..."
...or until somebody (like The Joker) kills Lois... or worse yet, makes Superman do it!
Everybody (save Batsy, as he's too chickenshit!) has a breaking point. Lois being killed..? Goodbye Hero, hello UBER-TYRANT Superman!
Superman played Black like a damn fiddle!
...I can see a whole room of broken fiddles...
Even Fiddles can sometimes have an ace on the line. But for Black, no dice!
I get it!
Kyle Shea THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDDDLLLEEE!
Nah man, I have to disagree there.
Fiddles require a lot fo skill to play. He played Black like a cheap Kazoo.
And people say superman isn't smart
Who the fuck said Superman isn't smart? Do they even comic!?
FatalFortuneCookie Thank you.
Bacon Maken They're probably just too busy falling over Batman.
Jair Artis he’s not
Emerson Herndon That's true, but no one likes being talked down to like a child.
Power does not corrupt. Absolute power IS to be absolutely incorruptible. WEAKNESS corrupt. Weakness of character. That's why Superman is the most heroic most iconic most super superhero of all time. That's why they call him Superman.
But humanity is sinful, i.e. weak by nature. Thus, all power exposes the weakness and corrupts the man/woman wielding it. Absolute power is one mistake, one flawed judgment, one moment of weakness away from absolute corruption. Superman himself has shown this multiple times in the comics and shows, it's why Batman keeps the kryptonite on his utility belt now at all times instead of stored in the Batcave like he used to do.
Wrong!
Well, absolute power can corrupt, but to do so, a weakness of character has to be present as well.
@@SarajevoKyoto
You can be extremely powerful, yet understanding and wise enough to wield it responsibly and with clarity
Yes humanity is sinful but I guess it really comes down what you believe in
Can we defy our nature more often than not or are we more prone to fall to it?
Regardless of that stance there are still those with power beyond most others that still know their place and appreciate their circumstances
It's a weakness in character, avarice, and corruption of the mind that leads people to change, and people usually tend to fall to this
But there are still shining examples in history of leaders, warriors, entrepreneurs and others who have had great power and influence and only ever used it for what is right
I like saying that power doesn't corrupt but reveal truth about person. Afterall when they dont ave to fear any consequences only thing left to restrain them are their own morals.
i always forget Superman has that robot legion
me too
And yet he never unleashes it when fucking Brainiac comes to town.
Daniel Wilson Brainiac will probably just take over them. He's a superior version of them robots.
I dunno. He couldn't assimilate Lex's tech. Or Batman's. Not until Brother Eye sold him out.
Someone has the to keep the Fortress clean, sure as hell won’t be me.
I’ll never understand why people want a dark Superman in the solid DC canon. For one-shot offshoots and genre deconstructions, fine; it’s an interesting concept to explore. But Superman isn’t that. I wish people would stop asking for that. That’s why we get weird shit like Injustice.
In this day and age, people seem so obsessed with bringing Superman "down to our level" when the entre point of his character is for him to inspire us to reach his level.
I agree with everything up to saying injustice was weird. I think it fits nicely into one of those off shoots you're talking about. It's one of the few times someone does that "dark superman" right to be honest.
In all fairness, Injustice is interesting. It reminded me of the Justice league episode where they fight the rogue Justice league.
And seeing "our" Justice league vs a rogue one can really show you why ours is so great
I agree except for the Injustice part. It's far too easy to make Superman a villain. It's harder to make him a hero who will not abuse his powers for self-benefit. Making Superman a villain is not that interesting because it makes him nothing more than a mere obstacle for a hero to overcome.
@@OddDeity It's not about making him a villain, it's more about making him evil or taking him out of his comfort zone.
In my opinion it is an interesting concept but has been overused and I prefer much more to see the good Superman we all know facing situations that put his morality to a test.
superman is best superhero.. not because of his powers or strength... but because of his ideals, his heart... a type of man I want to be
He's ideal. That's why he's shit.
its easy to have ideals when you are a god.
How about you preach your ideals to a father who needs to rob in order to get money to treat his son medical condition?
Superman holds up these ideals even without his powers. Also, he's not a god :p
+BeefSoda And Superman would help them, and has in the past. Get the fuck out. this is no place for haters who don't understand the character and are too stupid to read the comics to know what they're talking about.
kaihedgie you dont read a lot of comics it seems. supermans power is limitless, he reverses time, flies faster than light. just check screwattack superman vs goku, they simply explain superman has no limits. in other words he is a god. look up super man prime.
also superman always had these powers. if he didnt then he no longer would be super would he,
After seeing Omni Man and Homelander, seeing this is what I needed.
The both of them are basically what Superman would be if he wasn't raised by the proper people or wasn't allowed to explore other worlds as an individual. There's also Brightburn. He's what Superman would've been if he was vengeful and just wanted to watch everything be destroyed.
Dreams save us.
Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better.
And on my soul i swear that until my dream of a world where everyone is saved and happy and none have to suffer becomes the reality we all share.
I won't stop striving for it.
"Yay! Our shit's still broken!"
"but we are alive."
ncrvako So? Superman could have proven that he was an alien god on the moon; there was no need to wreck Metropolis.
Vicente Parker and how he could go back?
ncrvako He's Superman.
He could ask Batman to pick him up.
Vicente Parker how exactily?
Chipmunk Superman is great.
That's mr pink superman. He doesn't believe in tipping.
Only for the video to get terminated.
No it's Vergil Superman
Ikr
Voice is back to normals
Even though he's alien, Superman is more human than so many people. However, he teaches us how we all can be better and be real heroes because no matter what people say, there's always another way to get the job done. Superman taught them that, just as he keeps teaching us too and I will never forget these lessons from him.
Superman is one of the greatest heroes in the history of comic books and movies. I don't understand why people think he sucks or is weak, but what some people don't understand what it truly means to be a true hero and that's all that matters. Not if he is the strongest or smartest, but to do the right thing for everyone and everything.
Because it's fashionable to be edgy and "vulnerable" rather than productive and inspiring
I wouldn't say Supes does the right thing for everyone and everything, it's way more complex than that. This movie is just a weak critique on The Authority, a pretty good comic that dealt with what being a hero would truly mean.
Because without looking into it the main thing people hear about superman is his power
His power is the least interesting thing about him..
Huh basically we're all thinking like lex until we get to know him
Except that's the issue with Superman, who decides what a hero is? Just take the example given in BvS, when his dad (memory) told Clark about the heroic thing he did, saving the farm from washing away and prevented their farm animals to drown during a storm, he said his grandma baked him a cake because she saw him as a hero for doing that, which of course he was in her eyes. Then comes the other side of that situation, his heroic deed caused destruction to someone else's farm, namely the Langs' in this case, the Kents driving the water off lead that same water to the farm of the Langs, destroying most of it and drowning their animals. Would the Langs consider Clark/Superman a hero if they knew they were responsible?
That's what Snyder was aiming for, no matter how powerful you are, your actions have consequences and that's why the happy cheerful flawless Superman of some of the older iterations just looks childish now. And yes some things could have been better with that movie too so I'm not blind to its flaws either.
People think he's weak because the writers for the comics and movies and shows generally suck ass. These are the same people that think that Superman is overpowered and boring, but then make sure batman always wins and gets the upper hand because of strategy, even when he realistically couldn't survive. He shouldn't be able to survive a hit from a villain like Bane, who could punch a hole clean through him and has no reservations about doing so. And he sure as fuck shouldn't be able to outrun or dudge an Omega Beam. Writers will break all rules and logic to make him win, but still call Superman overpowered.
This whole movie and this scene especially is why we love SuperMan.
Take notes Zack Snyder!
I know! Maybe it was because I'm a comic nerd, but I was surprised ANYONE seriously believed it would end any OTHER way than them working together and respecting each other.
THAT'S why people want to see Sups and the Bat on the big screen- working together, not fighting each other.
Them fighting one another would be epic and awesome, but the debates that people have and arguments that go through there is horrible that it ruins it in the end. But pretty much everyone can agree that them working together would be one unstoppable duo.
See Batman/Superman Public Enemies for that.
I'm no fan of him but I respect him.
He doen't know how to write(good stuff).
+Hoyatas he was the director, he had the mist important responsability
Why can't we have a charismatic Superman like this on the big screen..........
Ivan Fonkoa give him time
Ivan Fonkoa we might synder is suppose to leave after justice league
Ivan Fonkoa good question
Ivan Fonkoa Hollywood doesn't read comics that's why. They do do not understand Superman is supposed to be charismatic.
Christopher Reeve had charisma is spades; among the tv versions, Tyler Hochelin, Tom Welling and Dean Cain all had their moments. Everyone else seems to have made their portrayal of the character powerful, but boring.
This is why Superman is my favorite DC hero. I once knew someone who always trashed Superman whenever I brought him up. They'd say he's "unrelatable," that Clark Kent is his persona that mocks humanity. He was born a "perfect, overpowered, distant alien."
It's not about the fights though. It's about what they mean as a whole.
What's unrelatable about a dorky English major from Kansas just trying to do the best he can?
What's unrelatable about feeling overworked with the weight of the world on your shoulders?
What's unrelatable about being scared that you'll fail and what that failure will mean in the long run?
I don't read Superman comics for the fights, I read them for the man they're about.
Your talking buddies are wrong. Clark isn't a persona he dons to mock humanity. That's who the greatest heroes in DC, Jonathan and Martha Kent, raised him to be. Imagine who he could have become if Amanda Waller or Luthor found him as a baby. Imagine the devastation and evil. Instead, Kal-El became Clark Kent, inspired by the awesome humanity of a simple married couple from Kansas.
This is why superman is a legend.
I just want to see Superman and Captain America chilling together. Those two would be best friends.
"If you think I'll just go to jail and rot, you're living in a dream world!"
"The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity. Dreams are my specialty, through dreams I influence mankind."
Is that a quote by a Lovecraft character?
@@zacharyriley4561 No. It from a shitty movie that happened to have an incredible performance by Tim Curry. Legend.
@@Elthenar It?
@@zacharyriley4561 No. I didn't call Tim Curry a Legend. That was the name of the movie. "Legend".
Lemme dig up a clip.
ruclips.net/video/nThc8tPmB_M/видео.html
@@Elthenar Thanks.
2:21 That right there... is such a powerful comeback against those who think we shouldn't dream.
Superman's weak slap is equal to the impact of Batman's punches 😂
Edit: Wow thanks for the likes, its been 3 years.
lol
Lies.
+Shadow Prime 9 you're right. It's much stronger
No it ain't. Superman purposely used a light slap.. Batman could slap just as hard.... course, this is more of a testament of Sups control
+TheDeathmail dont you even hear the sound of the impact of his slap? its the same sound of punching.
Batman: Clark, you clever son of a gun. Wait, since when do you have an army of robots?
Superman: Since 19-always. I just didn't wanna activate them.
Batman: We could use them.
Superman: I'll see what I can do.
Do you want a DC Ultron? Cause that's how you get a DC Ultron.
Superman robots are a gift from the Silver Age comics that keeps on giving.
This movie shows us that Superman's real superpower is reigning in the temptation to abuse his powers. This is one of those Superman nuances that Zack Snyder never really understood.
This Superman is basically the definition of a hero making superhero jokes and stuff.Unlike Batman Superman makes light of the situation
It's literally the main trait of his Superman since Man of Steel
As a kid, I didn't like Superman. As an adult and seeing how things are right now, watching Superman gives me a lot of hope.
This is the real superman
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This is what I call a good Supeman movie
this is why superman is one my favorite heroes, a true hero, he's not perfect, and no one asked for an alien to help humanity, he was raised and even after knew his heritage, still fought for humanity and his belief of justice and hope, (the latter is the symbol's meaning). even he can be smart enough to pull this off, you should be proud batman. yes it'll scare humanity, but it'll show them that killing isn't the way. this is a true superman, not the injustice one.
"A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control."
Jordan Peterson
And here Superman reminds the west of something Japanese teen comics never stopped pushing : The importance of dreams.
The drive to achieve something, the grander the better.
While your dream might be to one day to write thought provoking bestseller, climb the peak of a mountain, or to start and keep happy family, it's the fact you do have this dream that motivates you through the hardships. It's the voice you hear when you're about to give up. The image of the future you seek.
Quite honestly, screw ppl that think superman is cheesy. I know next to nothing about him (apart from nerd osmosis), but this is something the west seems to forget.
So go on and dream. Chase the future of your design. Make *your* world a better place.
see that's why I like Superman
Ladies and Gentlemen, when Superman pulled an absolute Batman moment with a Superman twist
Wow. So when Superman stop being compassionate it's a problem but when Manchester killed Atomic Skull it was ok? Damn I hate hypocrites.$"! V )
that's the point of this scene, it shows how hypocritical people get when it comes to choosing their heroes
Well Manchester Black is one thing, but Superman is freaking Superman, one of the most powerful beings in the entire Universe. A guy who can easily annihilate planets with just his fists and can travel billions of light years in seconds. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the immense threat of such power. There is a reason why Supes is always listed as one of the strongest fictional characters ever.
+kungfumaster51
yeah, two reasons: 1)huge amount of fanboys; 2)bad writing. Two main reasons that allow the 5th weakest member of JLU main cast to even compete with the likes of Flash, Captain Atom or Dr.Fate. And yet, you people whine that second weakest member of the cast is sometimes allowed to make a few punches against your idol:D
And no, it's not okay even for Black. His powers alone can deal a continent sized amounts of "collateral damage".
People supported the elite killing atomic skull becasue he was a villain who had killed people...What superman was showing them was if they want a someone who will kill the bad guys, who doesn't follow rule of law, who has no mercy, who does whatever they want becasue they have the power to do so and no one can stop them...how bad it can turn out for everyone else.
again the elite were the same way, Black basically says to Superman, they'll do whatever they want and kill anyone who upsets or gets in their way...
Superman wanted to show the world what a rogue hero can be like...and it scared them.
I like the scene before the battle where Lois asks Clark why he needs to face Black, and he says he overheard kids saying they want to be like the elite cause killing bad guys looks fun...killing looks like fun...
to be fair so many people thought of Supes as a boyscout that that was one reason the injustice story line was created to show what he would have been like if he had decided for real to stop holding back
best ultimate prank of superman
The last troll of Krypton
How is this a prank?
@@rosemarrie2391
The joke: Here.
Your Head: Here.
If you look at the Silver Age, you will see Superman has quite a history as a prankster.
This is why Superman is fine just being the perfect boy scout he is
The way Superman slaps Chester across the face 🤣🤣.
This is a great movie and it really shows why Superman is a great character. This is also proof that Supes is holding back whenever he fights anyone not named Darkseid or Doomsday. If Superman didn't hold back he could pull a Saitama and kill all his enemies in one punch.
Even Saitama holds back whenever he punches people. What we see is just a small fraction of his full power.
@@BenHopkins1000 how do you go beyond one punch
@@lolstuffenjoy9880 if I remember correctly, the creators said Saitama can destroy his entire universe in 2 punches; the first punch to destroy the half of it in front of him, and the second to turn back and destroy the other half.
@@blurb8397 source ?
@@bekemuntu I don’t remember unfortunately, I’m sorry for that
I think the imaginary axis made a video about Saitama, maybe I heard it there? Idk
This is a large demonstartion of the real superman we all love, I don''t like what they are doing with the new movie, making a sort of Injustice Story Line, because the Superman there is a very delicate person that changed at the slightest bit of pain, this superman sticks to the true Ideals of peace and justice even when everyone else told him he was wrong, he is a true hero, and the games and movies trying to discredit him dissapoint me, but this reminds me of why Superman is still my favorite hero
Heck this Superman *has* ideals. DCEU Superman doesn't stand for anything, which is the problem.
When did he change? I saw the same moral integrity that is showed in this video.
@@3Rayfire he does though
"B-but muh Injustice"
Read a book, people. The Superman from that universe is not the same as this one. This one also lost Lois to Joker in the Emperor Joker storyline, yet he never turned or even killed him for that matter. Someone did end up broken on that day though, and it wasn't Supes. Guess who it was, though
kaihedgie who? I actually want to know
black steel Batman
fucking Batman for not killing joker
oh wait
Black also "killed" Lois and he never went bad.
This is the movie, the scene, and the speech that made me a Superman fan, after literal decades of dismissing the character as boring
This is peak cinema
This is why we need a big blue Boy Scout.
I know this comment is 2 years old, but its true. I'm tired of seeing the same gritty old anti-heroes or the not-so-perfect goody two shoes with a dark past. I want a goody-two-shoes who can inspire us into becoming like them, or someone to look up to and to give hope for those in dark times. A beam of light in darker times!
The Elite: "Might makes right"
Superman: "lol, okay"
Linkara: "Might FOR right"
This is why Superman is the only hero I like from DC. I respect what he stands for
Bitch nigga disrespect Batman again and we catching hands
Marvin Wilcox Batman is the worst character ever created.
gargouenzene You sir need immediate assistance.
gargouenzene
Agree to disagree?
@@gargouenzene sure man the most ass pull character ever created
THIS IS SUPERMAN. THE MPHOAT. Limitlessly and infinitely powerful but the kindest, compassionate, emphatic and greatest hero of all time.
Superman does something showcasing his capabilities as a god among men = fanboys bitching about how he's not supposed to be smart and have everything done perfectly without a single civilian harmed despite being a god-tier superhero with powers and brains to back it up
Batman does or survives something impossible for a human because of plot armor/reasons = same fanboys cheer and say prep time and smarts solve anything.
For a character touted for his intelligence, his fanbase sure ain't bright :V
geez, can't like you them both?
@@normansmith9009 tell that to "DC fans" who only wanna see BAT stuff
Diego De la Fuente no, I will tell that to anyone who is toxically biased to one or the other.
I like both characters, but Batman's fanbase is the worst of any DC character. They've managed to convince themselves that Batman is a legit god because he's smart and knows martial arts.
THAT is the Superman I know and love.
THIS is Superman. Not...whatever the DC movies slapped the "S" onto. (I feel bad for Henry Cavill, never being able to escape from its shadow)
I mean considering the success Henry Cavill is having with the Witcher and with Daniel Craig leaving the James Bond role, Henry's name has entered many rumor mills as the next Bond, it's safe to say he's doing fine. But I wouldn't call his time as Superman a total waste. There's a large section of fans who want him back as Superman, even those who didn't like the three films he was in, said that Henry was never the problem. His passion for the role is readily apparent. If he could partner with filmmakers who truly understand what Superman is about it would be a slam dunk.
Snyder and Henry Cavill created the perfect Superman of the modern age. The fact that many people dislike him validates Zack Snyder's point.
JosephTheCastle Snyder’s point about what? Could you elaborate?
Snyder cut ayyy. And Henry revealed it with Zack. So anything about him not liking it is false lmao
Alexander Christopher about doing the right thing, the tough choice, in the darkest moments and rise above it
It's a shame that when Superman alone he can create good plans and think well, but when Batgod is around, Supes suddenly loses all his brains.
Too bad writers have to blow to batman fanboy kids.
I absolutly hate how most people and even writters forget that super man is actually super smart (pun not intentional), and then when you have other heroes along side him like Batman he just become a guy with super strengh that can fly
Because I like the scene and I'm glad you uploaded it I gave you a thumbs up, but the poor voices really damper the awesomeness of this moment. I figured it was intentional to avoid copyright issues cause people do that quite often. Whatever the reason, thanks for posting it anyways.
Yes the voice thing was mentioned in an earlier comment by Gimberg Preval, unfortunately I didn't notice it until after I uploaded this.
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How did you not notice it? did it occour after the upload or after you mixed it together without double checking?
wdpk12 I didn't double check like an idiot. It's probably be good thing in retrospect as this would probably have been deleted a long time ago otherwise
Superman just pulled a batman in this one "Tension? Jk bro i've got all the convoluted solutions"
I love how in this scene superman act the same batman principle but in a very hopefully and solar way. I love batman but is indeniable that in this scene you can understand why people love superman so much.
Superman being overrated is actually what makes him underrated. People always praise Shounen protagonists for always doing the right thing and never turning evil and shit when Superman is much much better when he is being the classic that he is, the symbol of hope
Because these days anime characters maintain that inspiration while current western media keeps trying to break down guys like Superman until they are anything but.
Ohhhh Superman, you even had me fooled.
You were having fun there too weren't you!
Batman was about to pull the Kryptonite ring out of the batcave🤣😅
The ring stays in his belt but in the cave he has a lead safe filled with the stuff, all the many colors
"Clark, are you okay?"
"People are losing hope, Lois"
"Where are you going, Dad?"
"Back to work"
Superman prank video gone wrong gone sexual 2016 social experiment in the hood almost shot almost killed
Luke Umbra you forgot "(not click bait)"
Alaida Bell *reaction*
cops called, 3AM challenge
“This isn’t you… YOU DON’T DO THIS!!!”
Amazing to see that even after being the reason Superman “Crossed that line”, he’s suddenly shitting himself when he gets smacked around
Better than Man of Steel and BvS.
Superman saved the day, yay! Too bad my car insurance doesn't cover Kryptonians making a statement about violence. I'm moving to Gotham.
and? you're gonna die faster over there
Hmm. How's Star City looking?
CrownRock1 not too bad me thinks
Wait you live in Metropolis and didn't get Kryptonian Insurance? That was your own damn fault.
just dont go to coast city, insurances wont cover lanterns
Chester tried a second time to corrupt Superman. didn't work that time either, and he ended up killing himself when he found out Clark was the real deal.
That's disturbing. Especially since Coldcast started working for the Justice League later.
@@christiancrusader9374 ColdCast was the only member of that team that could be redeemed. I'm kinda proud of him.
@@gilbertotabares8196 He did good.
I wish Manchester was able to be redeemed. I love a good redemption story. :(
this here is what i like, actual fans of the characters, people that know these characters talking about them in a cool discussion....unlike the fakes
Man, I don't think George Newbern's voice matches for Superman, but his delivery was fantastic in this movie. He VA'd the hell out of this, mad respect.
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That sounds about right.
Imagine if Superman was you're father and he slaps you with a slap that feels like a hard punch
Depending on how shoft the Slap is it can go from Punch to get Hit by a Truck
You can imagine how so very carefully he had to do that to avoid smacking Black's head clean off. 'World of cardboard', right?
*remembers own dad's super violent sneezes* Jeezus.
You see? Superman was always more than just his powers, he's also proved to have a big brain too as he just showed here.
this is the superman i love, and whenever people tell me tthey hate superman because he's too strong, i cant help but feel they dont understand what a good superman story is.
"No! It doesn't have to be that way, Superman! You taught us that!"
Um... How can _you_ talk? Atomic Skull was killed just like you wanted. You got your revenge for your dad, thanks to Manchester. You hypocrite.
It's a mixture of fear of what Superman might become and stupidity on the kid's part. That's what happens when the wants of the people turn against them.
Superman is damn terrifying. The Elite work so well because of just how human everyone viewed them but Superman wasn't just a person, he's an icon. To see that fall is extremely terrifying. Couple that with what he is capable of and it suddenly puts everything in perspective. The Elite got cheers because they never were an ideal to strive for;
except the issue is people were starting to view these pychopaths as the ideal heroes. Like superman said he over heard kids wanting to kill bad guys for fun...killing for fun. If people starting following guys like these the world would be getting alot more violent
Alex Mansfield Hell we will be burning. The sick shit going through my brain alone is enough to terrify anyone. But people like me don’t go psycho because Superman exist to show them it isn’t right and there is consequences.
If that fell, humanity is toast.
I've added a description to explain why the audio sounds weird.
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what the name of this movie again?
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0:24 Oh so when you kill it's okay but when Superman does it suddenly there's a problem.
Now they’re trying to transform Superman in a new Batman. But it’s not right. THIS is Superman I’ll always love.