This is what your channel is all about for me. You using your expertise and willingness to learn new skills to improve your own game, and then teach them to us. Love it, love it, love it.
@@mwilcegolf2066 that's exactly the issue now. I'm so sold on data driven solutions with my swing! Data is important in my professional life, I'd like to do similar with my swing. But finding coaches in my area that use equipment and data the right way is near impossible at the moment... Maybe we start a petition for Mark to stop playing golf and enjoying himself and just give us all lessons? Sorry Mark, it's the only way
I'm with you Oliver. I've been following Mark for several years. I've learned more about golf on this channel than I can remember, lol. Knowledge is power and the knowledge that Mark has passed along has made me a better golfer. I can diagnose many things within my own swing that would not be possible before I found this channel. Thanks Mark (and Coach Lockey)!
The old saying "Less is more" - for the last 12 months I have been saying to myself and my playing group "70% power for this drive" and have watched my handicap drop from 14 to 7, hitting straighter, longer and more fairways. Less is definitely more. Great video Mark, keep them coming. Perth Western Australia
Congrats on the HC improvement! But I don’t think that’s same at all! Marking is still going 100%, but is simplifying and reorganizing movement patterns to be more efficient with his ratio of energy in to energy out to get 120%!
Mark said he feels like he is putting far less into the swing but those distances I want. The shoulder turn and less over swing is the key, well for me it is. Good vid though.
@@markkenyon8760 Fair, and wasn't trying to be negative on Jeff's comments. But pretty sure the "feels like" comment is relative...as right before he says "it's not like I'm not putting loads of energy in...my verticals are massive!". Just trying to clarify that this is more about maximizing energy efficiency than it is about a controlled swing. He's definitely going after it!
I love watching you progress through your own development and how you apply it to how we can see our own improvement. Too many YT pros just tell us what we need to do....while it feels like you're in the trenches with us.
POW!!! There's no way I can jump during the swing. It's working for you and that's AWESOME!! Glad you found this break through and that you are able to execute it!
Agree, everything has changed. Tried this , using ground forces, moved from 240y carry avg to 260y avg. crazy! And it doesn’t even feel like hard work. ONLY DIFFERENCE, I use the ground to push off and start my hip rotation, rather than “jumping up”. Works a little bit better for me to make consistent contact. You guys are awesome!!!!
Suggestion: Try something similar with your mid to long irons/hybrids. Be interesting to see that comparison. Great work Mark & Coach!…I miss “Buggy Time.” Please bring it back.
Absolutely mind blowing, swing shorter, speed similar, sequence with jump included key!! We all are searching for something and this has hit a chord! I don’t have the tech to prove this but I’m going to try it none the less!! Keep them coming, absolutely love this type of video Mark, sets you out from the rest 👍
Really gave me something to think about with the jump. I have been working on some speed training through the TGS with Clay Ballard. Now I am 66 years old but very fit and strong and when I started, my average play swing speed was about 83 mph and my max was about 89. Using some of the drills and techniques he teaches and over a two week period my max has gotten as high as 98.2 - I have a GC3 for gathering data. The idea of the speed training is by increasing your max speed your normal play speed will increase as you start to use new muscles and your brain learns to incorporate them. It seems to work and is fun and gratifying to see my swing speed increase so much even at my age. But I sense there are still some easy yards to be gained. One drill I have not mastered yet, but which has made the biggest difference, is a power squat move - similar to the jump move you demo here. I struggle getting the right feel and timing. I suspect with a mat that would be a lot easier. But at least watching this has given me some ideas on what I can try. My goal is a 105 mph or more max with a normal play speed of 100 mph and I am confident I can do it too. Great video Mark - thanks for the ideas and inspiration.
USE THE FORCE MARK!!! You sharing this is super encouraging. Now I want to know how you're drilling that feeling in to get the sequencing and timing for that jump!
Great content, getting into the weeds a bit but obvious how passionate/excited you are about your own journey of discovery and also how you can use that to enlighten us 👍
It's shocking how different your swing looks just based on a small sequence change. I've been going through some speed training myself and finding that the quest for speed often leads to a better golf swing as an almost unintended consequence! Keep it up pro!
I've been playing with the changes you made after Coach's video and the things you were explaining seemed helpful in my own quest for a more efficient swing. Long before we had all this tech I knew timing the forces in the swing were essential. I always believed that the outliers I hit on occasion that soared past the rest came from accidentally timing things perfectly. Wish I had access to all that tech to accelerate the learning curve, but I'm at least not without resources. A range is out back and the course is 3 blocks away and I play free so I'll keep at it and have faith that I'll stumble into a more efficient swing soon enough to be able to still make use of it. 😂 Just keep the video's coming. They help.
Love the explanation for a technical nerd! I've got my backswing into a really strong position now, I am just fighting hitting from the top and steap/high hands creating all sorts of nonsense, but that's my next phase of improvement and I feel with every mm my shaft angle improves the better my golf gets!
Did you hear Rory talking to mend my golf Lads? His chat was brilliant. Using his core more and firing the right hip early and as fast as he can helps generate more speed with the club. Its mental how good Rory is and at 5'8" way smaller than many of them on tour but can blast it past them. Getting summit like 189-191 is crazy.
This is brilliant! I just started incorporating this into my driver swing to help me square up the clubface and release into the back of the ball with speed. It's worked wonders for my timing.
Sitting here watching this after trying to change my golf swing an resulting in a torn muscle in between my ribs , haha .4 weeks missing golf iam going crazy . Persistence is the key
Something clicked in my swing after taking a closer look at Jordan Spieths swing & trying it out & decided to stick with change even though was 2 days before a tournament for charity, will take a little getting use to the change as I fight old swing habits, but the consistency with the new swing is paying off. Thanks Mark for sharing your progress
This is sooo good. I’ve noticed when I reallly get after one, my backswing feels shorter, and my feet leave the ground, through impact. The results are a longer ball. I just haven’t perfected it enough to to do it all of the time. Great video! This is how JT hits it so far…
Great video, and can’t wait to try this out! I’ve got the exact same swing as you - lots of depth and really stretching my arm across my chest for a long swing. For the last little while have been really focused on shortening that backswing and trying to eliminate what I realized were “power leaks” from wasted movement that I then needed to re-organize my body around. Timing the jump is going to be game changing!!
Yeah I shortened my swing and started doing the hip extension thing you talked about in your golf whizz video. I legit gained 30-40 yards carry. But I lost that feel and started popping it in the air the next time I went to the DR. IDK what went wrong but I'm slowly getting back there. Happy for you Mark can't wait to see some "Knuckle baaaaaaalllls"
I went to the big shoulder turn, very very little arm movement, what I call the Jon Rahm swing, about twelve months ago, and I picked up yardage everywhere. For me, it feels much more like my hockey slap shot where the back entirely moves the stick with almost no arm movement, and also like my tennis forehand, where the racket is held almost straight back, far away from the body, and then you squat down and jump into the ball. Nice video Mark.
That's some major stuff, makes a lot of sense with the energy measurements. Might explain why what "feels" to me like a 3/4 arm swing can go as far as what "feels" like a full arm swing. Defo something to work on. Great video!
Wow, those distances are crazy consistent!! I was always a bit worried about trying to improve speed etc., figuring I would lose control which was always my best aspect of the driver game. But seeing these decent strikes and your feeling of 'doesn't feel like I'm doing anything more, if anything less' really makes me want to practice this. Lovely stuff Mark!
I love this. As I've said on another video exactly what jd academy have taught me in my 1st lesson so far with them on gears...I have much more width however I am very in to out now...I think I need to spring up and out earlier too now but God knows how
This is great stuff Mark. I'm wondering if you wore different shoes, you might get even more speed. Scott Lynn did some research with some tour pros and got some interesting results. Maybe, a test for you to try?
Mark - you need to watch athletic motion golf's video on left arm abduction, it's in one of their "clubhead speed videos. Using gears they've measured how far that left arm needs to go across your chest. The left arm abduction understanding has increased my speed and my students speed by ~3-7mph depending on how poor they were doing it. It also let's you feel that strange "stretch" where it feels like arms going further back and pelvis is going forward much easier. Cheers.
Really interesting, Mark. Are you bringing this to the course yet? Maybe even more interesting, though, is whether this is impacting on your iron distances, too? Would love to know…
I have been working on some speed training with my driver and have definitely noticed an increase in the swing speed of my irons as well. Not a one for one but a few mphs anyway.
Out there somewhere there is a classic photo of the great Laura Davies in her prime smashing her drive away and both feet were off the ground...but great efforts Mark you will get there in a week or so I bet.. I just wish I was a good number of years younger and bit more nimble to give this a go😄...Great vlog..
this ost so cool, i feel like i was a part of this journey, because you could feel something happens since the 262ndays .. the first training with the catalyst, visiting this long drive coach, your lesson with this top coach. good job mark! keep on jumping :)
Read or watched (can't remember which; think it might have been Padraig Harrington) about how PGA professionals will raise or lower their tee depending on how confidently they are smashing their driver. If they want to "grip and rip" they'll tee up higher. I notice Mark uses the pink castle tee. Maybe a slightly higher tee will bag those extra 5-10 yards.
I absolutely love how in depth you go with this stuff mark. Do i have the tech to measure myself 🤔.. nope 😭 but that won’t stop me trying not even close 🤣 keep it up bruh 🏌️♂️
It is absolutely crazy how early that ground push has to be when you're not used to it. Literally feels like you make half of a Rahm back swing and you should already be on that front foot pushing down. Edit; RIP 262, it was a fun meme while it lasted.
Hey Mark, your talking about changing sequence and making a bigger shoulder turn, are you trying/feeling shoulder/body turn right from 'takeaway'... we used to be taught to let your hands lead your arms then your arms lead the shoulder turn... I'll have an interested play later... i.e. could you clarify the order you start!? cheers bra
It doesn’t look too much different on video, but the feel os from different hemisphere and the compression at the ball is enhanced a lot. Having a shorter back swing loads the coiling while preparing to ”jump” early enough. It’ll become more compact and the Snead-like sitting down on the thighs stretches the abbs sideways and they’ll fire against the stretching momentum of the arms and club accelerating it more than from too far pampered back swing would ever allow us to do. Hands and club mass goes up, body goes down to counter that momentum and when in downswing the club starts to go down, you put force into the ground resulting the pivot point to raise up as the clubhead goes down helped bu the gravity and multiplied by forces of the legs straightening. Basically Mark, you are now telling is, that your swing has been a look-alike, but only now you’re getting the dynamicks into the motion!
Very beautiful indeed. One possible suggestion: your waggle could be softer, that would translate into an even smoother overall motion (Percy Boomer), even though it looks quite close to excellence already. Percy Boomer argues, that if the waggle is too lively, you will favor the shoulders rather than the lower body. The secret behind all of golf is emphasized by Ernest Jones - his explanation of what swinging the clubhead actually means.
Nice work sir, saw coaches vid and it caught my attention. I love these sorts videos. I've been working on a earlier transition eg within the first few feet of the swing and then the jump and the speed gains were amazing (considering I'm old, 47) nice job Mark 👍
Um ... what? You're doing which with your what to jump when and release where? I honestly could not track any of this. But your enthusiasm is inspiring so I'll watch it again.
There is an old saying from swim training - slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It seems so appropriate here. This is also something I am starting to work into my swing, when I get it right the swing feels slow but the results say it is actually faster. I am finding that my best results are when the feeling I have in the downswing is the torso and arms pause at the top of the backswing and I concentrate on getting the hips to rotate by putting as much as I can into straightening the lead leg as early as possible in the downswing - I need another lesson with my coach because I suspect I am still not early enough
Yes, even Trevino thinks it's only possible to change your takeaway, the rest will fall into place. You can't control a motion that takes 1/5 of a second (the downswing). Best to tidy up your setup and the first motion off the ball and the results will just come.
One day Mark I'm going to make the trip across the ocean to have a lesson with you. I have some distance but who doesn't want more hehe. Keep up the awesome content!
I used a jump as the “engine” of my swing for a few years - power was effortless but I had a hard time controlling it. With a mat and trackman, you should be able to dial it in
I've been thinking about the jump a long time. My guesses so far. The jump is at 90 degrees to the direction of the club head. Orthogonal forces don't affect each other. Lifting on the handle may be torquing the club to cause it spin around your wrist to increase. When the shaft gets horizontal you start to lift the handle. I really still have no clue.
Amazing results Mark #IAATBS….it’s all about the backswing All this talk you see of club face, club angle, very few talk about how to use your body…numbers don’t lie! Crazy results!
Do you follow Athletic Motion Golf? They're always talking about how tour pros have less than 90 degrees of right arm bend and far less lead arm across chest than most ams (width basically). They say it allows you time to get back to the ball correctly. Sounds like a similar thing.
This is probably the best comment I've read, however it's not just about right arm bend it's also about left arm abduction (how far it bends in degrees towards the chest)
@jim60631 yes, that's what I meant by lead arm across chest, couldn't remember the term abduction! Really interested to see @Mark Crossfield 's drill for it here because it's something I'm really struggling to implement in my swing
Probably a bit to late for me to be changing things Mark but this is just such great stuff to listen to/watch am I'm sure there will so many of your viewers giving it a got at the range. I even will give it a try, who knows. 👍
I've been playing a "half swing" since I started playing when I was about 7, I am completely self taught and hit it quite far, relatively not compared to a tour pro obvs, but compared to peers, everyone had always told me "Oh you would hit it so far if you swing the proper length you could do long drive". They can never understand that I generate so much power from the ground by swinging "short" , power they can't generate from the ground, this is then coupled with me hitting the middle more often because I have less to line up and less chance to get off line
Fascinating and interesting to my inner geek (which isn't very inner). Not sure I should even attempt any of this until I find out why the hell my brief, but much loved, sabbatical from my slice has ended though.
I’m on the opposite end. I can comfortably get up to 117mph club head speed and around 170+ ball speed. BUT I have zero control of the club face. Big miss left huge miss right. So now I’ve gone back to a shortened swing and really trying to take my wrists out of it and my club head is down to 108-110 and I’m hitting fairways 🤷♂️ I’m hoping in time once I’m more use to this new swing I can get back to 117mph club head speed but I’m not holding my breath. It’s just nice to find a few fairways
Mark, it would be interesting to do the same experiment with a short, mid and long iron. What exactly do you mean about stalling earlier? Great content mate 👍🏻
Enjoy these vids and the theory behind it. I also tried to increase the speed. I think you, if you were honest you struggle on course with this. Even in your own words you don’t know where the ball is going. Wonder what your actual strokes gained are
Lexi Thompson, Bubba Watson and Dame Laura Davies all have the ( jump/push away ) at the bottom. All three mostly have both feet off the ground at impact. I've really tried to copy Lexi's push/jump away for the ball at/before impact and when it works/is timed it's a long ball for me. It's very hard to replicate though.
So Mark, do you use this same approach/swing with your irons? Do you find you are more inconsistent? Or will that just come with practice? More moving parts more variables to time? Super intrigued
When will you be fully committed to taking this feeling on to the course do you think? would love to see the SG comparison between bomb ball Mark and pat pat Mark from yesteryear. Especially as its a sequencing adjustment rather than a technique change.
Nice work Mark. With you experimenting with a stronger grip whilst also making the swing changes, are you now also tweaking ball position and tee height to see if it has an effect on shot shape or efficiency or are you doing everything through backswing thoughts and ideas? If the ball move further forward does it give you split second better efficiency as contact is slightly later? Love the content
I really want to and have a lesson right now to see what I can do, though right now I am seeing improvements already in terms of distance than I did before. I am really curious though to see if I could use those forces in much better way than I am. Unfortunantly I don't think really anyone here where I live has really all that tech that would tell that story. Anyhow it is gonna be an intersting journey to follow your game in paralell with my own and see where we are going to end up, keep at it Mark :)!
What you are saying about the only way to influence your strike is to change the first part of your swing makes a lot of sense, because when you hit the ball, your brain is still behind you. Its the "if you jump out of a window, you are dead before your hit the ground." thing. Your brain takes like 40 milliseconds to process what is happening, so when you hit the ground, your brain is still 20 feet in the air. The downswing to impact is maybe 250 millisecond, and it takes maybe 150 milliseconds to make a change . That's why duffers like me cast the club when we take away outside, our brains make the club move, but we can't control it mentally, it's way too late for that. I think of it that in the backswing, we might have a little time to make small corrections (hopefully we get it right) but once we pull the trigger, it's too late to make any changes on the downswing, so we basically are in a panic and look up hoping for the best. Good luck with your swing changes, Mark!
Mark, little confused here... i get the jump part for the transition/downswing, why are you saying you changed the sequence of your backswing? I can't understand what you mean by that.
Hey Mark, Can you quantify the ballspeed gained when making this move late versus on time? Like what was your average and max ballspeeds before using the verticals at the right time, and what are they now?
As a 6 4” skinny armed and beer belly having dude, I don’t think this is that hard. Literally just swing with everything you got. You’re good enough to square it up if I am… and I am. I also drove it 320 (with some wind behind me) last round. That’s with so many things wrong in my swing. Anyways… love your content mark, definitely one of my favorites
Looking at your horizontal grf graph pattern, it seemed your braking of translational movement changed dramatically too. I suspect both the earlier timing of braking and increase in vertical grfs are linked. So how do you know whether it was the earlier 'braking' that was the major contributor of your increased clubhead speed?
Great video Mark! It would be interesting to know if the same move/feeling could be used in the iron swing and if you could still have a downward angle of attack whilst ‘jumping’? PS I remember when 262 was a good drive for you now ur carrying it 284 #bomber 😆 keep up the good work 👍
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This is what your channel is all about for me. You using your expertise and willingness to learn new skills to improve your own game, and then teach them to us. Love it, love it, love it.
Thanks Oliver
@@MarkCrossfield Old dog new tricks? 🐶👍👍👍 Good to see.
Couldn’t agree more I just wish more pros could keep up with the tech stuff and know what to do with it like mark does
@@mwilcegolf2066 that's exactly the issue now. I'm so sold on data driven solutions with my swing! Data is important in my professional life, I'd like to do similar with my swing. But finding coaches in my area that use equipment and data the right way is near impossible at the moment... Maybe we start a petition for Mark to stop playing golf and enjoying himself and just give us all lessons? Sorry Mark, it's the only way
I'm with you Oliver. I've been following Mark for several years. I've learned more about golf on this channel than I can remember, lol. Knowledge is power and the knowledge that Mark has passed along has made me a better golfer. I can diagnose many things within my own swing that would not be possible before I found this channel. Thanks Mark (and Coach Lockey)!
Markson DeCrossbeau hitting bombs! 💣 The days of 262 drives are long gone 💪🏌🏾
The old saying "Less is more" - for the last 12 months I have been saying to myself and my playing group "70% power for this drive" and have watched my handicap drop from 14 to 7, hitting straighter, longer and more fairways. Less is definitely more.
Great video Mark, keep them coming. Perth Western Australia
Congrats on the HC improvement! But I don’t think that’s same at all! Marking is still going 100%, but is simplifying and reorganizing movement patterns to be more efficient with his ratio of energy in to energy out to get 120%!
Mark said he feels like he is putting far less into the swing but those distances I want. The shoulder turn and less over swing is the key, well for me it is. Good vid though.
@@markkenyon8760 Fair, and wasn't trying to be negative on Jeff's comments. But pretty sure the "feels like" comment is relative...as right before he says "it's not like I'm not putting loads of energy in...my verticals are massive!". Just trying to clarify that this is more about maximizing energy efficiency than it is about a controlled swing. He's definitely going after it!
I love watching you progress through your own development and how you apply it to how we can see our own improvement. Too many YT pros just tell us what we need to do....while it feels like you're in the trenches with us.
POW!!! There's no way I can jump during the swing. It's working for you and that's AWESOME!! Glad you found this break through and that you are able to execute it!
No one does golf instruction like you Mark. Another excellent vid
Agree, everything has changed. Tried this , using ground forces, moved from 240y carry avg to 260y avg. crazy! And it doesn’t even feel like hard work. ONLY DIFFERENCE, I use the ground to push off and start my hip rotation, rather than “jumping up”. Works a little bit better for me to make consistent contact. You guys are awesome!!!!
Haven't even made it 30 seconds into the video and I notice how much more fit you look Mark, keep up the good work!
I saw Coach’s video first, fascinating, looking forward to seeing you take it out on the course
Suggestion: Try something similar with your mid to long irons/hybrids. Be interesting to see that comparison. Great work Mark & Coach!…I miss “Buggy Time.” Please bring it back.
Absolutely mind blowing, swing shorter, speed similar, sequence with jump included key!! We all are searching for something and this has hit a chord! I don’t have the tech to prove this but I’m going to try it none the less!! Keep them coming, absolutely love this type of video Mark, sets you out from the rest 👍
Really gave me something to think about with the jump. I have been working on some speed training through the TGS with Clay Ballard. Now I am 66 years old but very fit and strong and when I started, my average play swing speed was about 83 mph and my max was about 89. Using some of the drills and techniques he teaches and over a two week period my max has gotten as high as 98.2 - I have a GC3 for gathering data. The idea of the speed training is by increasing your max speed your normal play speed will increase as you start to use new muscles and your brain learns to incorporate them. It seems to work and is fun and gratifying to see my swing speed increase so much even at my age. But I sense there are still some easy yards to be gained.
One drill I have not mastered yet, but which has made the biggest difference, is a power squat move - similar to the jump move you demo here. I struggle getting the right feel and timing. I suspect with a mat that would be a lot easier. But at least watching this has given me some ideas on what I can try. My goal is a 105 mph or more max with a normal play speed of 100 mph and I am confident I can do it too. Great video Mark - thanks for the ideas and inspiration.
Mark you always post good content but this hands down one of my favorite videos you've put out. Great work!!!!
Very kind thank you.
I have put all of the last video you did to my driver swing and I'm hitting it with confidence every time I tee it up. Thanks Mark
USE THE FORCE MARK!!! You sharing this is super encouraging. Now I want to know how you're drilling that feeling in to get the sequencing and timing for that jump!
Great content, getting into the weeds a bit but obvious how passionate/excited you are about your own journey of discovery and also how you can use that to enlighten us 👍
It looks like you are swinging so much softer ! Great video
This is awesome, Mark! Can't wait to see this appear on the course vlogs and you start outdriving The Coach! You can do it, Mark!!
Gone off your channel past 6 months or so but this was really good. Look forward to the next instalment
Mark , Very Impressive ! I end up jumping up and Walking Back wards away from Target or Ball.
It's shocking how different your swing looks just based on a small sequence change. I've been going through some speed training myself and finding that the quest for speed often leads to a better golf swing as an almost unintended consequence! Keep it up pro!
I've been playing with the changes you made after Coach's video and the things you were explaining seemed helpful in my own quest for a more efficient swing. Long before we had all this tech I knew timing the forces in the swing were essential. I always believed that the outliers I hit on occasion that soared past the rest came from accidentally timing things perfectly. Wish I had access to all that tech to accelerate the learning curve, but I'm at least not without resources. A range is out back and the course is 3 blocks away and I play free so I'll keep at it and have faith that I'll stumble into a more efficient swing soon enough to be able to still make use of it. 😂 Just keep the video's coming. They help.
Love the explanation for a technical nerd! I've got my backswing into a really strong position now, I am just fighting hitting from the top and steap/high hands creating all sorts of nonsense, but that's my next phase of improvement and I feel with every mm my shaft angle improves the better my golf gets!
That my friends is the rythm and addjusting the sequence of motion to benefit the task in hand!
Welldone crossy. This is through your effort and willingness to continue to learn. Reward for effort! Not always the case but great when it is 👌🤩
I'm old enough in the channel to remember when every drive was 262 😂Great work and improvement Mark, enjoy every step of the way!!!
Did you hear Rory talking to mend my golf Lads? His chat was brilliant. Using his core more and firing the right hip early and as fast as he can helps generate more speed with the club. Its mental how good Rory is and at 5'8" way smaller than many of them on tour but can blast it past them. Getting summit like 189-191 is crazy.
This is brilliant! I just started incorporating this into my driver swing to help me square up the clubface and release into the back of the ball with speed. It's worked wonders for my timing.
Sitting here watching this after trying to change my golf swing an resulting in a torn muscle in between my ribs , haha .4 weeks missing golf iam going crazy . Persistence is the key
Something clicked in my swing after taking a closer look at Jordan Spieths swing & trying it out & decided to stick with change even though was 2 days before a tournament for charity, will take a little getting use to the change as I fight old swing habits, but the consistency with the new swing is paying off. Thanks Mark for sharing your progress
This is sooo good. I’ve noticed when I reallly get after one, my backswing feels shorter, and my feet leave the ground, through impact. The results are a longer ball. I just haven’t perfected it enough to to do it all of the time. Great video! This is how JT hits it so far…
Great video, and can’t wait to try this out! I’ve got the exact same swing as you - lots of depth and really stretching my arm across my chest for a long swing. For the last little while have been really focused on shortening that backswing and trying to eliminate what I realized were “power leaks” from wasted movement that I then needed to re-organize my body around. Timing the jump is going to be game changing!!
Yeah I shortened my swing and started doing the hip extension thing you talked about in your golf whizz video. I legit gained 30-40 yards carry. But I lost that feel and started popping it in the air the next time I went to the DR. IDK what went wrong but I'm slowly getting back there. Happy for you Mark can't wait to see some "Knuckle baaaaaaalllls"
Good to see you have the buzz.
I went to the big shoulder turn, very very little arm movement, what I call the Jon Rahm swing, about twelve months ago, and I picked up yardage everywhere. For me, it feels much more like my hockey slap shot where the back entirely moves the stick with almost no arm movement, and also like my tennis forehand, where the racket is held almost straight back, far away from the body, and then you squat down and jump into the ball. Nice video Mark.
Swing timing is so similar to Lexi Thompson….who has fantastic transition and most noticeable to me jump! Great stuff!
Good for you for putting in the work. Its not easy to teach people to do this and as a coach its not easy to commit to a change.
That's some major stuff, makes a lot of sense with the energy measurements. Might explain why what "feels" to me like a 3/4 arm swing can go as far as what "feels" like a full arm swing. Defo something to work on. Great video!
Wow, those distances are crazy consistent!! I was always a bit worried about trying to improve speed etc., figuring I would lose control which was always my best aspect of the driver game. But seeing these decent strikes and your feeling of 'doesn't feel like I'm doing anything more, if anything less' really makes me want to practice this. Lovely stuff Mark!
What a great video Mark. It strengthens my belief that tech is a positive factor in getting better at golf. Keep these videos coming
Let’s see more when you take it outdoors. Great stuff
I love this. As I've said on another video exactly what jd academy have taught me in my 1st lesson so far with them on gears...I have much more width however I am very in to out now...I think I need to spring up and out earlier too now but God knows how
I discovered this last year and struggled with path. I moved the ball forward slightly plus slightly higher and I’m driving it better than ever.
This is great stuff Mark. I'm wondering if you wore different shoes, you might get even more speed. Scott Lynn did some research with some tour pros and got some interesting results. Maybe, a test for you to try?
Swing looks like a proper golf swing now! Top stuff
Mark - you need to watch athletic motion golf's video on left arm abduction, it's in one of their "clubhead speed videos. Using gears they've measured how far that left arm needs to go across your chest. The left arm abduction understanding has increased my speed and my students speed by ~3-7mph depending on how poor they were doing it. It also let's you feel that strange "stretch" where it feels like arms going further back and pelvis is going forward much easier. Cheers.
Really interesting, Mark. Are you bringing this to the course yet? Maybe even more interesting, though, is whether this is impacting on your iron distances, too?
Would love to know…
I have been working on some speed training with my driver and have definitely noticed an increase in the swing speed of my irons as well. Not a one for one but a few mphs anyway.
Out there somewhere there is a classic photo of the great Laura Davies in her prime smashing her drive away and both feet were off the ground...but great efforts Mark you will get there in a week or so I bet.. I just wish I was a good number of years younger and bit more nimble to give this a go😄...Great vlog..
263 seems a distant memory..... 👍🙂 Good to see. Be interesting in hearing more what your feels are during the swing.
this ost so cool, i feel like i was a part of this journey, because you could feel something happens since the 262ndays .. the first training with the catalyst, visiting this long drive coach, your lesson with this top coach. good job mark! keep on jumping :)
Read or watched (can't remember which; think it might have been Padraig Harrington) about how PGA professionals will raise or lower their tee depending on how confidently they are smashing their driver. If they want to "grip and rip" they'll tee up higher.
I notice Mark uses the pink castle tee. Maybe a slightly higher tee will bag those extra 5-10 yards.
I absolutely love how in depth you go with this stuff mark. Do i have the tech to measure myself 🤔.. nope 😭 but that won’t stop me trying not even close 🤣 keep it up bruh 🏌️♂️
Great content Mark!!!🙌. Would you do this with your irons kinda like Lexi???
Absolutely love the technical side of the golf swing so this stuff is gold dust Mark. Could you explain those graphs a bit more though please
It is absolutely crazy how early that ground push has to be when you're not used to it. Literally feels like you make half of a Rahm back swing and you should already be on that front foot pushing down. Edit; RIP 262, it was a fun meme while it lasted.
Really good video Mark, fascinating stuff. I need to get on one of these force plates. Power leak central my swing.
Hey Mark, your talking about changing sequence and making a bigger shoulder turn, are you trying/feeling shoulder/body turn right from 'takeaway'... we used to be taught to let your hands lead your arms then your arms lead the shoulder turn... I'll have an interested play later... i.e. could you clarify the order you start!? cheers bra
It doesn’t look too much different on video, but the feel os from different hemisphere and the compression at the ball is enhanced a lot.
Having a shorter back swing loads the coiling while preparing to ”jump” early enough. It’ll become more compact and the Snead-like sitting down on the thighs stretches the abbs sideways and they’ll fire against the stretching momentum of the arms and club accelerating it more than from too far pampered back swing would ever allow us to do.
Hands and club mass goes up, body goes down to counter that momentum and when in downswing the club starts to go down, you put force into the ground resulting the pivot point to raise up as the clubhead goes down helped bu the gravity and multiplied by forces of the legs straightening.
Basically Mark, you are now telling is, that your swing has been a look-alike, but only now you’re getting the dynamicks into the motion!
i miss seeing the #262 crossfield. you have been doing a lot of work to be at #320 now. big gains
Very beautiful indeed. One possible suggestion: your waggle could be softer, that would translate into an even smoother overall motion (Percy Boomer), even though it looks quite close to excellence already. Percy Boomer argues, that if the waggle is too lively, you will favor the shoulders rather than the lower body.
The secret behind all of golf is emphasized by Ernest Jones - his explanation of what swinging the clubhead actually means.
Nice work sir, saw coaches vid and it caught my attention. I love these sorts videos. I've been working on a earlier transition eg within the first few feet of the swing and then the jump and the speed gains were amazing (considering I'm old, 47) nice job Mark 👍
Thanks Matt
Um ... what? You're doing which with your what to jump when and release where? I honestly could not track any of this. But your enthusiasm is inspiring so I'll watch it again.
There is an old saying from swim training - slow is smooth, smooth is fast. It seems so appropriate here. This is also something I am starting to work into my swing, when I get it right the swing feels slow but the results say it is actually faster.
I am finding that my best results are when the feeling I have in the downswing is the torso and arms pause at the top of the backswing and I concentrate on getting the hips to rotate by putting as much as I can into straightening the lead leg as early as possible in the downswing - I need another lesson with my coach because I suspect I am still not early enough
Yes, even Trevino thinks it's only possible to change your takeaway, the rest will fall into place. You can't control a motion that takes 1/5 of a second (the downswing). Best to tidy up your setup and the first motion off the ball and the results will just come.
what you need now is move that lowest swing arch back and going for a higher tee, move ball further back for a draw and further from middle for a fade
Can you do a video on club path and face to path and all the technical things around how to hit a shot. Please 🙏🏼
Wow, been a subscriber since 2013... unbelievable how much faster you're swinging 😳
Thanks Bobby
There's so much here that every golfer can take from this. Could we be saying farewell to 'Parfield'?
One day Mark I'm going to make the trip across the ocean to have a lesson with you. I have some distance but who doesn't want more hehe. Keep up the awesome content!
I used a jump as the “engine” of my swing for a few years - power was effortless but I had a hard time controlling it. With a mat and trackman, you should be able to dial it in
RUclips should have a 'love' button.
Haha thanks.
I've been thinking about the jump a long time. My guesses so far. The jump is at 90 degrees to the direction of the club head. Orthogonal forces don't affect each other. Lifting on the handle may be torquing the club to cause it spin around your wrist to increase. When the shaft gets horizontal you start to lift the handle. I really still have no clue.
Amazing results Mark #IAATBS….it’s all about the backswing
All this talk you see of club face, club angle, very few talk about how to use your body…numbers don’t lie! Crazy results!
Do you follow Athletic Motion Golf? They're always talking about how tour pros have less than 90 degrees of right arm bend and far less lead arm across chest than most ams (width basically). They say it allows you time to get back to the ball correctly. Sounds like a similar thing.
This is probably the best comment I've read, however it's not just about right arm bend it's also about left arm abduction (how far it bends in degrees towards the chest)
@jim60631 yes, that's what I meant by lead arm across chest, couldn't remember the term abduction! Really interested to see @Mark Crossfield 's drill for it here because it's something I'm really struggling to implement in my swing
Probably a bit to late for me to be changing things Mark but this is just such great stuff to listen to/watch am I'm sure there will so many of your viewers giving it a got at the range. I even will give it a try, who knows. 👍
never too late
Wow. Great to see mark. Come on 320!!!!!
Thanks Ed
Cool video Mark… maybe tune the loft down a bit? Your apex looks like 150 feet on FSX. Less loft = less spin = big gains :)
I've been playing a "half swing" since I started playing when I was about 7, I am completely self taught and hit it quite far, relatively not compared to a tour pro obvs, but compared to peers, everyone had always told me "Oh you would hit it so far if you swing the proper length you could do long drive". They can never understand that I generate so much power from the ground by swinging "short" , power they can't generate from the ground, this is then coupled with me hitting the middle more often because I have less to line up and less chance to get off line
Fascinating and interesting to my inner geek (which isn't very inner).
Not sure I should even attempt any of this until I find out why the hell my brief, but much loved, sabbatical from my slice has ended though.
I’m on the opposite end. I can comfortably get up to 117mph club head speed and around 170+ ball speed. BUT I have zero control of the club face. Big miss left huge miss right. So now I’ve gone back to a shortened swing and really trying to take my wrists out of it and my club head is down to 108-110 and I’m hitting fairways 🤷♂️ I’m hoping in time once I’m more use to this new swing I can get back to 117mph club head speed but I’m not holding my breath. It’s just nice to find a few fairways
Mark, it would be interesting to do the same experiment with a short, mid and long iron. What exactly do you mean about stalling earlier? Great content mate 👍🏻
Enjoy these vids and the theory behind it. I also tried to increase the speed. I think you, if you were honest you struggle on course with this. Even in your own words you don’t know where the ball is going. Wonder what your actual strokes gained are
Less exaggerated Bryson jump?
Very useful 👌😎
Lexi Thompson, Bubba Watson and Dame Laura Davies all have the ( jump/push away ) at the bottom. All three mostly have both feet off the ground at impact. I've really tried to copy Lexi's push/jump away for the ball at/before impact and when it works/is timed it's a long ball for me. It's very hard to replicate though.
Great video, everything I've been working on.
Thank you. Hope you are seeing improvements.
So Mark, do you use this same approach/swing with your irons? Do you find you are more inconsistent? Or will that just come with practice? More moving parts more variables to time? Super intrigued
Your hitting an Little fade Bomb ! Just Aim an smidge Left and Trust it , Your Crushing it!!
When will you be fully committed to taking this feeling on to the course do you think? would love to see the SG comparison between bomb ball Mark and pat pat Mark from yesteryear. Especially as its a sequencing adjustment rather than a technique change.
Nice work Mark. With you experimenting with a stronger grip whilst also making the swing changes, are you now also tweaking ball position and tee height to see if it has an effect on shot shape or efficiency or are you doing everything through backswing thoughts and ideas? If the ball move further forward does it give you split second better efficiency as contact is slightly later? Love the content
I really want to and have a lesson right now to see what I can do, though right now I am seeing improvements already in terms of distance than I did before. I am really curious though to see if I could use those forces in much better way than I am. Unfortunantly I don't think really anyone here where I live has really all that tech that would tell that story.
Anyhow it is gonna be an intersting journey to follow your game in paralell with my own and see where we are going to end up, keep at it Mark :)!
Crossy has gone into legend mode!
Amazing to see, whats it like on course?
Would be fascinating to see how my swing looks on swing cat.. do you have people in the bay on swing cat and if you do what do you charge?
What you are saying about the only way to influence your strike is to change the first part of your swing makes a lot of sense, because when you hit the ball, your brain is still behind you. Its the "if you jump out of a window, you are dead before your hit the ground." thing. Your brain takes like 40 milliseconds to process what is happening, so when you hit the ground, your brain is still 20 feet in the air. The downswing to impact is maybe 250 millisecond, and it takes maybe 150 milliseconds to make a change . That's why duffers like me cast the club when we take away outside, our brains make the club move, but we can't control it mentally, it's way too late for that. I think of it that in the backswing, we might have a little time to make small corrections (hopefully we get it right) but once we pull the trigger, it's too late to make any changes on the downswing, so we basically are in a panic and look up hoping for the best. Good luck with your swing changes, Mark!
Mark, little confused here... i get the jump part for the transition/downswing, why are you saying you changed the sequence of your backswing? I can't understand what you mean by that.
Hey Mark, Can you quantify the ballspeed gained when making this move late versus on time?
Like what was your average and max ballspeeds before using the verticals at the right time, and what are they now?
Early testing is suggesting 159- 163 with new move more 162-166.
As a 6 4” skinny armed and beer belly having dude, I don’t think this is that hard. Literally just swing with everything you got. You’re good enough to square it up if I am… and I am. I also drove it 320 (with some wind behind me) last round. That’s with so many things wrong in my swing. Anyways… love your content mark, definitely one of my favorites
What was your baseline club head speed/carry before this experiment?
Looking at your horizontal grf graph pattern, it seemed your braking of translational movement changed dramatically too. I suspect both the earlier timing of braking and increase in vertical grfs are linked. So how do you know whether it was the earlier 'braking' that was the major contributor of your increased clubhead speed?
Great video Mark! It would be interesting to know if the same move/feeling could be used in the iron swing and if you could still have a downward angle of attack whilst ‘jumping’? PS I remember when 262 was a good drive for you now ur carrying it 284 #bomber 😆 keep up the good work 👍