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Wormholes experiences: - Helge (1953) and Jonas (1986): they both traveled forward the time: Helge went to 1986 (+33 years), while Jonas traveled to 2052 (+66 years) - Charlotte (2020) and Elisabeth (2053): currently we don't know what happened
"Sons of Time" (people who exist because one or both parents, or an ancestor, traveled across the time): - Jonas (born because Mikkel traveled) - Charlotte (daughter of Noah, a time traveller, and because of hen/egg paradox 😱😱😱) - Elisabeth (hen/egg paradox 😱😱😱)
Time Machine: - The Stranger arrives at Winden along with the broken machine (2019) ➡️ the Stranger shows the broken machine to Tannhaus, asking to repair it (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the broken machine to finish the "younger" version (1986), but he cannot repair this version ➡️ END - Old Claudia showed to Tannhaus the blueprint (1953) ➡️ Tannhaus is still building the machine (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the older machine as a model to finish this one (1986) ➡️ the Stranger is the new owner ➡️ the Stranger closed the passage in the caves (2019) ➡️ Hannah and the Stranger traveled to 1987 to see Mikkel ➡️ the machine now is in 2020 along with the Stranger ➡️ Hannah steals the machine to travel to 1954 to visit Ulrich - Old Claudia met Middle Age Claudia, and after the explanation she recharged the machine to travel (1987) ➡️ Old Claudia buried the machine (1954) ➡️ Middle Age Claudia found the machine (1987) ➡️ Claudia is the new owner ➡️ Claudia surely used the machine to travel to 2020 to do her research (because the passage is closed) ➡️ 1987 events ➡️ Claudia and Jonas traveled to 2020 (after refiling the machine) and used the machine to reopen the passage ➡️ the machine was in Winden during the apocalypse - Noah has the machine (all times) ➡️ Noah gave it to Bartosz (2019-2020) ➡️ Magnus's group steal it (2020) ➡️ Magnus and others forced Bartosz to use it (2020 and 1987) ➡️ Magnus still keeps the device (2020) ➡️ Katarina took away the machine (2020) ➡️ Katarina abandoned it in Jonas' house, so the Stranger used it to save himself, Bartosz, Magnus and Franziska from apocalypse Saint Cristopher pendant: - Jonas and Martha found it near lake (2019) ➡️ Jonas has it in 2052-2053 ➡️ It travelled along Jonas to 1921 ➡️ it travelled along Jonas to 2019 - The Stranger leave it on Martha's bed (2020) ➡️ The Stranger has it again (2020) - Adam keep it (1921) Mysterious letter: someone wrote the letter and sent it to Clausen (2020) Martha's letter: ??? ➡️ Young Noah gave it to the Stranger (2020) ➡️ Probably the letter is lost after the dark mater blast (2020) ➡️ END
O lance da Charllote e da Elisabeth é um paradoxo de Bootstrap. O Paradoxo de Bootstrap diz o seguinte: se um objeto, ou informação, volta no tempo (pressupondo que o tempo se comporte de forma cíclica, como em Dark), ele passa a ser esse mesmo objeto ou informação que seguiria o seu rumo na história até chegar o momento em que o voltaria no tempo novamente para que o ciclo fosse reiniciado. Deste modo, tal objeto, ou informação, passariam a existir sem sequer terem sido criados. É graças a esse mesmo paradoxo que a existência de Charlotte e Elizabeth foi possível. Como se sabe, Charlotte é, ao mesmo tempo, filha e mãe de Elizabeth. Consequentemente, Elizabeth também é filha e mãe de Charlotte. Podemos, porém, enxergar a situação por duas vias diferentes: a primeira, a partir do ponto de vista de Charlotte. A garota foi criada na década de 70/80 por H.G Tannhaus, conheceu Peter e teve duas filhas: Franziska e Elizabeth. No dia do apocalipse, porém, acabou viajando no tempo para 2053, quando conheceu a versão mais velha de sua filha. A segunda forma de compreender melhor essa relação é analisá-la através do ponto de vista de Elizabeth. A garota foi uma das poucas sobreviventes do apocalipse que ocorreu em 2020. Assim, Elizabeth cresceu neste mundo devastado e acabou conhecendo Noah, com quem teve uma filha chamada Charlotte. Só dando uma geral, mas tudo vai se explicar melhor ainda na próxima temporada.
Excelente! Obrigado! Sim, esse paradoxo é fascinante! Dá um nó na cabeça, mas a partir do momento em que "aceitamos" a maneira ciclica das coisas, fica mais tranquilo. E sobre os parentescos de Elisabeth e Charlotte, acertaram em cheio em colocar isso na série, exploraram bem a fundo a questão da viagem no tempo e suas possibilidades!
The post episode discussion segment in this video was so damn funny. You and your lady friends were obsessed with the Charlotte/Elisabeth revelation. It was hilarious.... 😅 Oh... I just assume that your lady friends' brains melted while watching season three. Especially what happens to Jonas mid season. You know what I'm talking about. 😉
Man, truth is I barely remember anything of season 3! But yes, we are at episode 3 and already having all of our brains melted! Haha, glad you had fun with the discussion!
Ansioso pro react da terceira e última temporada! Não vou dar spoiler sobre o final, mas Dark é uma das minhas séries favoritas da vida por ter ganhado meu coração no fim. 1 episódio por semana ataca minha ansiedade kkkkkk mas ninguém solta a mão de ninguém.
i found out this week that the man who came to help the police and wants to get Aleksander was in a series called Deutschland 83, 86 & 89 as a East German Stasi HVA officer :O
Ei, galera... vamo combinar o seguinte? O Rodrigão pediu pra marcar coisas com spoilers. Vamos tentar não fazer isso! Acho massa que ele também esteja reagindo "a primeira vez" à série.
Victims of the time loop: - Mikkel: stuck 33 years in the past without any possibility to travel back, he met his father that he failed to go back in 2019, he coexists with his younger self, he knows that his son and his childhood friend are the same person, he lived in the same town where there are his lost parents, he ended his life by suicide to keep Jonas' existence. 😭😭😭😭😭 - Helge: he tried to stop himself, but he failed, and unfortunately he died, keeping the time loop intact - Old Claudia: with the knowledge of all events of time loop, she was killed by Noah 😭. You were a good player Claudia - Ulrich: he wasn't a very good person, but he's literally living the hell, he tried to change the time, failing; Hannah abandoned him in the prison; he tried to save Mikkel from 80s, failing; he saw the other sons but he hasn't any possibilities to interact with them 😬 - Martha: killed by Adam to lead Jonas to his destiny - French Delegation: they waited Claudia for so long, probably they died during apocalypse, and someone from France reached Winden to investigate in 2053, but Elisabeth executed them 😬 - Noah: killed by his sister, he never saw his family reunited again (but at least he found Charlotte)
Charlotte seems to hate Woller during the series, probably because he's Bernadette's brother (Peter had an affair with her) Agnes seems to be a broken character: she left Sic Mundus for unknown reasons and she had Tronte, probably Old Claudia was at her side during this period, she lead Ulrich to his destiny showing him Tronte (but she looked worried, maybe she wanted to save Ulrich from his fate, but Claudia asked her to lead the way), she looked happy with Doris, but unfortunately she had to leave everyone; she looked very sad about Claudia's death (probably Claudia asked to "betray" her), and she returned to Sic Mundus probably because Claudia asked her to do it (to keep her safe? To be her spy?); she killed Noah, but she looked devastated
39:15 Essa é a parte quase impossível de explicar, porque é que nem a arma que pode funcionar ou não, a única explicação é "só acontece o que poderia acontecer". 😅
É, a Claudia disse mesmo ter visto “um mundo sem o Jonas” la atras. Será que vamos para isso agora? Eu particularmente gostei desse final até os últimos momentos na primeira vez que vi, mas não gostei da Martha de franja e a história de haver outro mundo. Gosto de viagem no tempo, mas multiverso não tanto. Mas no fim eu gostei como as coisas se desenrolam na terceira temporada e como eles apresentaram essa nova “complexidade” à história, então hoje tudo bem 😬
I have an observation, i put SPOILER ALERT, but who already watched the series know that they never explained this - During the apocalypse the first sphere was created, a sphere with "33 years rule" (Jonas used it to finish in 1921) - Sic Mundus created the second sphere, the perfect one (they broke the "33 years rule"); Jonas traveled to 2019, Adam to 2020 - When Adam and Jonas talked, we saw the projects of the time machine, and a spherical object, very similar to the golden sphere used by "Earth-2 Martha"; what if Sic Mundus created also a perfect version of time machine?
(spoil) I do not believe. the spherical object on the plans seemed to me more to be the control panel of the second sphere that the adult Franziska was manipulating at the end of the episode.
Martha from another world??
Martha de outro mundo??
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I was so excited for this episode. It blew my mind when I saw it the 1st time and was so excited for so many" What the heck" reactions on your faces.
Oh, we had lots of those here haha! Amazing season finale!
Wormholes experiences:
- Helge (1953) and Jonas (1986): they both traveled forward the time: Helge went to 1986 (+33 years), while Jonas traveled to 2052 (+66 years)
- Charlotte (2020) and Elisabeth (2053): currently we don't know what happened
"Sons of Time" (people who exist because one or both parents, or an ancestor, traveled across the time):
- Jonas (born because Mikkel traveled)
- Charlotte (daughter of Noah, a time traveller, and because of hen/egg paradox 😱😱😱)
- Elisabeth (hen/egg paradox 😱😱😱)
Love those! Some of the best plots of the show!
Time Machine:
- The Stranger arrives at Winden along with the broken machine (2019) ➡️ the Stranger shows the broken machine to Tannhaus, asking to repair it (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the broken machine to finish the "younger" version (1986), but he cannot repair this version ➡️ END
- Old Claudia showed to Tannhaus the blueprint (1953) ➡️ Tannhaus is still building the machine (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the older machine as a model to finish this one (1986) ➡️ the Stranger is the new owner ➡️ the Stranger closed the passage in the caves (2019) ➡️ Hannah and the Stranger traveled to 1987 to see Mikkel ➡️ the machine now is in 2020 along with the Stranger ➡️ Hannah steals the machine to travel to 1954 to visit Ulrich
- Old Claudia met Middle Age Claudia, and after the explanation she recharged the machine to travel (1987) ➡️ Old Claudia buried the machine (1954) ➡️ Middle Age Claudia found the machine (1987) ➡️ Claudia is the new owner ➡️ Claudia surely used the machine to travel to 2020 to do her research (because the passage is closed) ➡️ 1987 events ➡️ Claudia and Jonas traveled to 2020 (after refiling the machine) and used the machine to reopen the passage ➡️ the machine was in Winden during the apocalypse
- Noah has the machine (all times) ➡️ Noah gave it to Bartosz (2019-2020) ➡️ Magnus's group steal it (2020) ➡️ Magnus and others forced Bartosz to use it (2020 and 1987) ➡️ Magnus still keeps the device (2020) ➡️ Katarina took away the machine (2020) ➡️ Katarina abandoned it in Jonas' house, so the Stranger used it to save himself, Bartosz, Magnus and Franziska from apocalypse
Saint Cristopher pendant:
- Jonas and Martha found it near lake (2019) ➡️ Jonas has it in 2052-2053 ➡️ It travelled along Jonas to 1921 ➡️ it travelled along Jonas to 2019
- The Stranger leave it on Martha's bed (2020) ➡️ The Stranger has it again (2020)
- Adam keep it (1921)
Mysterious letter: someone wrote the letter and sent it to Clausen (2020)
Martha's letter: ??? ➡️ Young Noah gave it to the Stranger (2020) ➡️ Probably the letter is lost after the dark mater blast (2020) ➡️ END
O lance da Charllote e da Elisabeth é um paradoxo de Bootstrap. O Paradoxo de Bootstrap diz o seguinte: se um objeto, ou informação, volta no tempo (pressupondo que o tempo se comporte de forma cíclica, como em Dark), ele passa a ser esse mesmo objeto ou informação que seguiria o seu rumo na história até chegar o momento em que o voltaria no tempo novamente para que o ciclo fosse reiniciado. Deste modo, tal objeto, ou informação, passariam a existir sem sequer terem sido criados. É graças a esse mesmo paradoxo que a existência de Charlotte e Elizabeth foi possível. Como se sabe, Charlotte é, ao mesmo tempo, filha e mãe de Elizabeth. Consequentemente, Elizabeth também é filha e mãe de Charlotte.
Podemos, porém, enxergar a situação por duas vias diferentes: a primeira, a partir do ponto de vista de Charlotte. A garota foi criada na década de 70/80 por H.G Tannhaus, conheceu Peter e teve duas filhas: Franziska e Elizabeth. No dia do apocalipse, porém, acabou viajando no tempo para 2053, quando conheceu a versão mais velha de sua filha. A segunda forma de compreender melhor essa relação é analisá-la através do ponto de vista de Elizabeth. A garota foi uma das poucas sobreviventes do apocalipse que ocorreu em 2020. Assim, Elizabeth cresceu neste mundo devastado e acabou conhecendo Noah, com quem teve uma filha chamada Charlotte.
Só dando uma geral, mas tudo vai se explicar melhor ainda na próxima temporada.
Excelente! Obrigado!
Sim, esse paradoxo é fascinante! Dá um nó na cabeça, mas a partir do momento em que "aceitamos" a maneira ciclica das coisas, fica mais tranquilo.
E sobre os parentescos de Elisabeth e Charlotte, acertaram em cheio em colocar isso na série, exploraram bem a fundo a questão da viagem no tempo e suas possibilidades!
The post episode discussion segment in this video was so damn funny. You and your lady friends were obsessed with the Charlotte/Elisabeth revelation.
It was hilarious.... 😅
Oh... I just assume that your lady friends' brains melted while watching season three.
Especially what happens to Jonas mid season. You know what I'm talking about. 😉
Man, truth is I barely remember anything of season 3! But yes, we are at episode 3 and already having all of our brains melted!
Haha, glad you had fun with the discussion!
Ansioso pro react da terceira e última temporada! Não vou dar spoiler sobre o final, mas Dark é uma das minhas séries favoritas da vida por ter ganhado meu coração no fim. 1 episódio por semana ataca minha ansiedade kkkkkk mas ninguém solta a mão de ninguém.
Kkkk adoraria conseguir fazer mais, mas não dou conta... força que a gente chega no final! Fico feliz por estar acompanhando aqui!
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? First an Elizabeth or a Charlotte???
Hahah great question!
i found out this week that the man who came to help the police and wants to get Aleksander was in a series called Deutschland 83, 86 & 89 as a East German Stasi HVA officer :O
Oh! Cool! Thanks for the info =)
Ei, galera... vamo combinar o seguinte?
O Rodrigão pediu pra marcar coisas com spoilers.
Vamos tentar não fazer isso!
Acho massa que ele também esteja reagindo "a primeira vez" à série.
Valeu pela preocupação, Maycon! Com certeza terei muitas surpresas na 3a temporada!
Victims of the time loop:
- Mikkel: stuck 33 years in the past without any possibility to travel back, he met his father that he failed to go back in 2019, he coexists with his younger self, he knows that his son and his childhood friend are the same person, he lived in the same town where there are his lost parents, he ended his life by suicide to keep Jonas' existence. 😭😭😭😭😭
- Helge: he tried to stop himself, but he failed, and unfortunately he died, keeping the time loop intact
- Old Claudia: with the knowledge of all events of time loop, she was killed by Noah 😭. You were a good player Claudia
- Ulrich: he wasn't a very good person, but he's literally living the hell, he tried to change the time, failing; Hannah abandoned him in the prison; he tried to save Mikkel from 80s, failing; he saw the other sons but he hasn't any possibilities to interact with them 😬
- Martha: killed by Adam to lead Jonas to his destiny
- French Delegation: they waited Claudia for so long, probably they died during apocalypse, and someone from France reached Winden to investigate in 2053, but Elisabeth executed them 😬
- Noah: killed by his sister, he never saw his family reunited again (but at least he found Charlotte)
Hahah among all sad destinies, I can't help but finding a little funny about the French delegation!
36:29 E a Cacau "viajandona" que sacou direitinho o pulo do gato da terceira temporada ehn?
Kkkkkk né? Na mosca!
Charlotte seems to hate Woller during the series, probably because he's Bernadette's brother (Peter had an affair with her)
Agnes seems to be a broken character: she left Sic Mundus for unknown reasons and she had Tronte, probably Old Claudia was at her side during this period, she lead Ulrich to his destiny showing him Tronte (but she looked worried, maybe she wanted to save Ulrich from his fate, but Claudia asked her to lead the way), she looked happy with Doris, but unfortunately she had to leave everyone; she looked very sad about Claudia's death (probably Claudia asked to "betray" her), and she returned to Sic Mundus probably because Claudia asked her to do it (to keep her safe? To be her spy?); she killed Noah, but she looked devastated
Oh my God, Claudia manipulated so much on the show haha! I really hadn't thought about Agnes having that encounter with Ulrich on purpose!
Vcs deveriam assistir ao filme O Predestinado
Opa, valeu pela recomendação!
God, redhead damn smart 😃
She is!
39:15 Essa é a parte quase impossível de explicar, porque é que nem a arma que pode funcionar ou não, a única explicação é "só acontece o que poderia acontecer". 😅
Hahaha sim! Deve ser muito frustrante de repente vc saber q está totalmente à mercê do destino mesmo.
37:05 A terceira temporada estreou 27 de junho de 2020 então foi no olho do furacão da pandemia mesmo
Pois é! Péssimos tempos kkkk
É, a Claudia disse mesmo ter visto “um mundo sem o Jonas” la atras. Será que vamos para isso agora?
Eu particularmente gostei desse final até os últimos momentos na primeira vez que vi, mas não gostei da Martha de franja e a história de haver outro mundo. Gosto de viagem no tempo, mas multiverso não tanto. Mas no fim eu gostei como as coisas se desenrolam na terceira temporada e como eles apresentaram essa nova “complexidade” à história, então hoje tudo bem 😬
A gente tem opiniões bastante parecidas , Leandro!
Espero dessa vez ficar mais consciente das coisas na 3a temporada haha!
No fim tudo se conecta e faz sentido no meio de toda essa loucura kkkkk eu adorei tudo.
I have an observation, i put SPOILER ALERT, but who already watched the series know that they never explained this
- During the apocalypse the first sphere was created, a sphere with "33 years rule" (Jonas used it to finish in 1921)
- Sic Mundus created the second sphere, the perfect one (they broke the "33 years rule"); Jonas traveled to 2019, Adam to 2020
- When Adam and Jonas talked, we saw the projects of the time machine, and a spherical object, very similar to the golden sphere used by "Earth-2 Martha"; what if Sic Mundus created also a perfect version of time machine?
(spoil)
I do not believe. the spherical object on the plans seemed to me more to be the control panel of the second sphere that the adult Franziska was manipulating at the end of the episode.
@@dlspark7965 Interesting observation 🤔