'sales have been surprisingly slow this year' 'yeah', simon scratches head and looks up so he doesnt stare into the camera and make the, "not for me' expression
The difficulty at Austin open is what the future of elite disc golf is going to become. 6-7 under par would be awesome golf to watch being the hot round. The youngsters are going to have courses like this becoming the normal. Dialed and touch shots are going to become a staple.
I attended The Preserve last year and got the opportunity to meet Simon and Brodie as well as followed Brodie for his first two rounds. I loved the layout they did for the practice putting/stretching and the driving range. They did a good job in the emails they sent to spectator pass holders every morning that we were not allowed to approach a professional or speak to you guys, unless approached and spoken to first. This should be a standard during the tournaments and have the fan meetings/autograph signings after your round once you're ready and taken a second to unwind. If it was a PGA event, I wouldn't be running over to Tiger Woods for a selfie, 5 minutes before he tees off for his round, why should I be doing that at a DGPT event? Loved the podcast, looking forward to seeing you all this year again at The Preserve!
True Story: 2021 Worlds, we got Simon to sign our autograph book. We handed him a silver sharpie and he was like, “oh perfect, silver”. I never knew why until now! 😂
Disc golf is becoming a legit sport. Access during events need to be strictened. All it takes is one. One person. With bad intentions. Being able to have access to a tee box as a player is getting ready to throw is absurd. For safety purposes alone, I feel like the pdga should be doing a better job at regulating this issue.
As a fan who's attended several tournaments it's sad people don't have more common sense regarding player interaction. I've found if your polite and friendly many players will interact with you voluntarily. Having my dog along, if allowed, helps especially with FPO.
Fans are a crucial element in generating revenue for professional disc golfers and the sport itself. Without fans, there would be no ticket sales, merchandise sales, or sponsorships, which are all important sources of income for the players. Therefore, it's important for professional disc golfers to not only appreciate their fans but also to engage with them, build relationships, and create a fan base that will continue to support them throughout their career. By doing so, they not only ensure their financial success but also help to grow the sport and attract more fans, which benefits everyone involved.
Great interview. I liked what they said at the end about people trying to get stuff signed and pics while playing and warming up. People working/volunteering the tournaments should know how to be around the athletes. You don't get special privilege to get stuff signed or pics because you're staff. Wait until they're doing a signing session. It's the old adage, do you want strangers coming up to you and taking your focus away from your job while you're working?
I'd love to see what would happen if you made a course with tons of sand bunkers and - stay with me here - made the grass "fairways" all OB. You can make super small landing zones that are fair to good shots! Obviously could be gimmick-y and you'd have to figure out how to make run-ups possible, but I'd try it
Loved the entire interview. Great questions and Simon is a thoughtful and knowledgeable guest. But for Brody to dis people that don’t have their disc stability dialed is funny. Watch any of his practice videos with Ezra. Seems like quite a few surprises for someone who knows his discs. 😉
Only suggestion is to encourage the long answer version of Simon's responses. His answers are more important than fitting questions in. Other than that love the format and discussion.
After hearing it referenced, I got hints that Simon / Brodie have some thoughts on USDGC course. Not wanting answers here, but really want to hear a podcast on this in the future!
We get to know people so well on socials, that we actually think we know them. They are literally strangers. If you just walked up a person on the street and bugged them for a picture, or demanded their time, they would have every right to be annoyed. I do understand that fame has this as one particular trade off, but some people's tact in these situations is wildly inappropriate.
I understand Uli's point of not wanting to sign stuff if he didn't play well BUT for fans who buy your merchandise and pay to come watch you play I don't think it's too much to ask to sign after the round. A lot of fans probably saw you not play well but want to give you the "we have your back" feel. I was at austin and waited about 20min Friday and Saturday while you finished your round to get a autograph and you dipped right away. There were only about 15-20 people waiting on Friday and maybe 10 on Saturday so would have taken a couple minutes. I had my opportunity to buy other discraft team stuff but chose to go your way because I like all the extra time you give to the sport and seemed like a fun guy. After you didn't stay to sign fri/sat my wife asked why did you buy his merch? I couldn't give her a answer 🤷♂️
Uli. I saw you thinking when the conversation about Simon becoming remotivated was going on. MVP would welcome you with open arms. You would thrive with a change. TRIVE!
For someone who is an avid in person autograph collector and attending my first silver series event in a few weeks I have some thoughts. For baseball it’s always approach as the player is entering the field or post game. In your alls case should you choose to sign upon arrival on your way to the practice area awesome, otherwise it should be pretty common sense to not ask until after the round. My understanding is that there is supposed to be a designated area for this. I also think as more outlets like Brixton and DGPT make card releases, you are going to see your requests go up.
All I could think about when they started talking about flashy dressing and the dress code, is Jerm and his hot dog shirt. I love them, but some of those shirts are wild.
I really hate to say but hopefully the fan interaction issue is handled before someone gets hurt. Because Paul is totally correct that the players need to a safe space to leave without the possibility of interaction. As the sport gets more popular and fans get more invested into their favorite players eventually someone will take something too far.
I think the ability for fans to interact with the athletes in disc golf is amazing, but when they are competing, they should be able to focus on the competition. I used to tell friends who came to watch me run track races not to talk to me until after the race. I needed the warmup time to myself to focus and get ready, and I wasn't nearly at the level these guys are. Simon gives a lot to his fans. He should be able to focus on competition when it's competition time.
Everyone found the loophole, next tournament there is gonna be a 100 kids with their dad's, uncles and grandpas discs and hats at the practice basket. 😂
People are clueless. You need to set boundaries. We saw you walk off the course after your practice round at Idlewild last year, you very clearly were not in a mood to be approached which is totally reasonable. We got in line the next day and you were nice enough to sign a disc for us at the end of your round at the booth.
While I completely understand concerns about fan courtesy and maintaining boundaries during competition, it's good to remember that you guys would be nothing without "the gallery people.” Don’t lose sight of that as you count your piles of (their) money. It's no coincidence that with the explosive growth of this sport there's also been an observable sense of self-importance on the rise among many top players.
@@waynebryant1857 Did you read what I said? Their concerns about bad fans are rational and completely understandable. Nobody should be interrupting them while they prepare for a match. The way they talk about spectators en masse (as "the gallery people"), however, makes them sound inexcusably pretentious
Fans in general just seem to be getting crazier and crazier these days. Many don't use a lick of common sense when it comes to trying to meet their favorite pro players. As a fan and an amateur disc golfer, if I'm ever a spectator at a pro tournament, I will respect all the pros space and just let them work. I'll fan boy on the inside. IMHO your fav pro does NOT owe you anything just because you follow them on soc media, and buy all of their signature discs.
It's incredibly difficult to have a hole that makes par difficult without making birdie almost impossible. This is because the short game in disc golf is so incredibly easy compared to ball golf. So if you have a par 3, for example, that's difficult to lay up for the par, then the route to get to the green is going to be that much more difficult or impossible. How do you have a par 3 with a gettable birdie but a difficult par (if you attempt to go for par)? I think hole 6 at Maple Hill is a great example. If you go for the green it's a fantastic risk/reward hole. But if you (a tour pro) wanted to, you could easily lay up to the fat part of the fairway and have a decently easy chip up for par. How do you make that hole have a difficult par route without absolutely destroying any chance at birdie (or deterring everyone from even trying?) I don't know if you can, and that's just the nature of disc golf. In ball golf you can do a lot with the green and the green surrounds to solve some of these problems.
Brodie could have been Paul McBeth's greatest nemesis if he had started playing DG 15 years earlier. Ultimate beat the crap out of Brodie physically... his knees are shot at 35YO. Also... he switched to DG when he was around 32, but yet still is consistently in the top 30 at DGPT events. I know... "could of, would of, should of" but the dude has talent, it is just too late for him.
Brody ask the question and let them answer! You keep going on and on giving them options to what you think they are going to answer with….. totally annoying and let Uli ask more questions thanks
C’mon Simon, I like bright colors. And I’m gonna wear what I like. Joel freeman is probably the same. He’s not making a statement, he’s just wearing what he likes to wear.
I personally would rather have these low scoring tournaments where only a stroke or two separates the leader board. I would like to see the leader no more than like 5 or 6 under
As a person going to my first event in a couple weeks, honest question…if you wanted to get discs(s) signed by some pros, your not a kid, and you wanted to be very respectful not to ruin anyone’s focus before a round, what’s like the best time or way to approach the pros? Everything they mentioned as being walked up on by fans during warm up is explicitly against the fan guidelines/rules on the DGPT site for spectators. I don’t want to be that asshole fan. Taking a selfie on the 18th tee box is like the epitome of the douchebag I don’t want to be…and yet I would love to get some of my favorite pros to sign a disc…hire a kid? 😂 I’m open to ideas.
After the round is over there probably will be a few pros willingly signing autographs for 30-60 minutes. You may not get your choice but usually they are top players.
Many pros will sign discs and other things after their round. Usually each major manufacturer will have a tent or station set up somewhere near parking at the event and the pros will go to the tent of their sponsor to sign things if they are so inclined. You can almost he sure if they finish in the top 10 for the final round or if they shoot a hot round for one of the earlier rounds and they are one of the more prominent players that they will be available for a bit at the tent/station after the round. If they have a rough tournament/round they may not choose to stick around as Uli alluded to.
Paul, Simon, and Brodie. Your answer about putting fans in an insignificant place when it comes to autographs is disappointing. If you have a bad round the fans will forget and still purchase your disc. If you act self indulgent and chase them away, they won't forget that. You make money by being a face, a public figure. I personally don't ask for signatures because I'm afraid to become an uninterested fan. Honestly I think being a fan of a person that can throw a frisbee well is kind of weak but being a fan of strong values person is more appropriate.
There is a time and place. These guys are professional athletes trying to make a living. You are more likely as a fan of disc golf to be able to meet your favorite player and potentially get a picture or autograph than really any major sport, so you at least owe it to that player to be tactful about it and not go and approach them while they are actively warming up before their round or actively playing a round. Wait until a round is over and go find them at their sponsor's tent and do it there. Easy peasy.
Brodie chin wags too much, his voice is grating. I like Uli's BS dramatisations better. The U-linator said there are 5 high rise baskets average at any given tournament, how about ONE low rise ground (rim/nub) level basket? Old sport originating object baskets used to be played at ground level.
@@FoundationPodcasts New to you, the former, but back then not yet CEO of Kohls was the 1st one I heard use the term 'chin wag' in 73'. He'd also call random clowns a Dillweed. The only thing new in this world, is the history you don't know.
Appreciate the conversation, but as much as Pro Golf is brought up, they walk by fans ALL the time and don't sign or give high fives. To each their own, fans are going to like you one way or another, can't please every single person who comes to watch.
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Resting breh face?
Simon is a great guest.
Simon played with Ken Climo and Dave Feldberg; his humility and honesty to a fault makes him in my humble opinion the GOAT.
I always appreciate the honest Simon talk. I feel like we could meet randomly at a course or pool table and just enjoy the banter.
'sales have been surprisingly slow this year'
'yeah', simon scratches head and looks up so he doesnt stare into the camera and make the, "not for me' expression
The difficulty at Austin open is what the future of elite disc golf is going to become. 6-7 under par would be awesome golf to watch being the hot round. The youngsters are going to have courses like this becoming the normal. Dialed and touch shots are going to become a staple.
I attended The Preserve last year and got the opportunity to meet Simon and Brodie as well as followed Brodie for his first two rounds. I loved the layout they did for the practice putting/stretching and the driving range. They did a good job in the emails they sent to spectator pass holders every morning that we were not allowed to approach a professional or speak to you guys, unless approached and spoken to first. This should be a standard during the tournaments and have the fan meetings/autograph signings after your round once you're ready and taken a second to unwind. If it was a PGA event, I wouldn't be running over to Tiger Woods for a selfie, 5 minutes before he tees off for his round, why should I be doing that at a DGPT event? Loved the podcast, looking forward to seeing you all this year again at The Preserve!
Just finding this channel. How am I just now finding this channel??!! - more than three putters, so disrespectful - how are you not a Simon fan 😂😂😂
I have to say Brodie great idea for this show it just keeps on getting better 🎉
True Story: 2021 Worlds, we got Simon to sign our autograph book. We handed him a silver sharpie and he was like, “oh perfect, silver”. I never knew why until now! 😂
Disc golf is becoming a legit sport. Access during events need to be strictened. All it takes is one. One person. With bad intentions. Being able to have access to a tee box as a player is getting ready to throw is absurd. For safety purposes alone, I feel like the pdga should be doing a better job at regulating this issue.
As a fan who's attended several tournaments it's sad people don't have more common sense regarding player interaction. I've found if your polite and friendly many players will interact with you voluntarily. Having my dog along, if allowed, helps especially with FPO.
Bring your teenage daughters to get Nikkos attention
@@protroll697 ayo what
Such a great conversation!
Fans are a crucial element in generating revenue for professional disc golfers and the sport itself. Without fans, there would be no ticket sales, merchandise sales, or sponsorships, which are all important sources of income for the players. Therefore, it's important for professional disc golfers to not only appreciate their fans but also to engage with them, build relationships, and create a fan base that will continue to support them throughout their career. By doing so, they not only ensure their financial success but also help to grow the sport and attract more fans, which benefits everyone involved.
Great interview. I liked what they said at the end about people trying to get stuff signed and pics while playing and warming up. People working/volunteering the tournaments should know how to be around the athletes. You don't get special privilege to get stuff signed or pics because you're staff. Wait until they're doing a signing session. It's the old adage, do you want strangers coming up to you and taking your focus away from your job while you're working?
Great interview by Brody!
I'd love to see what would happen if you made a course with tons of sand bunkers and - stay with me here - made the grass "fairways" all OB. You can make super small landing zones that are fair to good shots! Obviously could be gimmick-y and you'd have to figure out how to make run-ups possible, but I'd try it
Loved the entire interview. Great questions and Simon is a thoughtful and knowledgeable guest. But for Brody to dis people that don’t have their disc stability dialed is funny. Watch any of his practice videos with Ezra. Seems like quite a few surprises for someone who knows his discs. 😉
no off season will do that
@@FoundationPodcasts 👍 You and Ezra make great content together. Power dg and buddy banter!
Discraft Venom, Texas States doubles vid, hole 18. 😉
Only suggestion is to encourage the long answer version of Simon's responses. His answers are more important than fitting questions in. Other than that love the format and discussion.
We had Paige Pierce at a certain time. So didn’t want her to have to wait.
@@FoundationPodcasts Understood, thanks for the clarification.
After hearing it referenced, I got hints that Simon / Brodie have some thoughts on USDGC course. Not wanting answers here, but really want to hear a podcast on this in the future!
We get to know people so well on socials, that we actually think we know them. They are literally strangers. If you just walked up a person on the street and bugged them for a picture, or demanded their time, they would have every right to be annoyed. I do understand that fame has this as one particular trade off, but some people's tact in these situations is wildly inappropriate.
I understand Uli's point of not wanting to sign stuff if he didn't play well BUT for fans who buy your merchandise and pay to come watch you play I don't think it's too much to ask to sign after the round. A lot of fans probably saw you not play well but want to give you the "we have your back" feel. I was at austin and waited about 20min Friday and Saturday while you finished your round to get a autograph and you dipped right away. There were only about 15-20 people waiting on Friday and maybe 10 on Saturday so would have taken a couple minutes. I had my opportunity to buy other discraft team stuff but chose to go your way because I like all the extra time you give to the sport and seemed like a fun guy. After you didn't stay to sign fri/sat my wife asked why did you buy his merch? I couldn't give her a answer 🤷♂️
Uli. I saw you thinking when the conversation about Simon becoming remotivated was going on. MVP would welcome you with open arms. You would thrive with a change. TRIVE!
I love him in the captain role at Discraft. Unaware of the details on his current contract but I hope he stays for a while
For someone who is an avid in person autograph collector and attending my first silver series event in a few weeks I have some thoughts. For baseball it’s always approach as the player is entering the field or post game. In your alls case should you choose to sign upon arrival on your way to the practice area awesome, otherwise it should be pretty common sense to not ask until after the round. My understanding is that there is supposed to be a designated area for this. I also think as more outlets like Brixton and DGPT make card releases, you are going to see your requests go up.
Funniest part is this is titled Simon Lizotte’s disc golf pet peeves and it’s 54 minutes long. That would be a LOT of pet peeves
All I could think about when they started talking about flashy dressing and the dress code, is Jerm and his hot dog shirt. I love them, but some of those shirts are wild.
I really hate to say but hopefully the fan interaction issue is handled before someone gets hurt. Because Paul is totally correct that the players need to a safe space to leave without the possibility of interaction. As the sport gets more popular and fans get more invested into their favorite players eventually someone will take something too far.
I think the ability for fans to interact with the athletes in disc golf is amazing, but when they are competing, they should be able to focus on the competition. I used to tell friends who came to watch me run track races not to talk to me until after the race. I needed the warmup time to myself to focus and get ready, and I wasn't nearly at the level these guys are. Simon gives a lot to his fans. He should be able to focus on competition when it's competition time.
Everyone found the loophole, next tournament there is gonna be a 100 kids with their dad's, uncles and grandpas discs and hats at the practice basket. 😂
Brodie out here trying to shoot +9 with the hard par take
People are clueless. You need to set boundaries. We saw you walk off the course after your practice round at Idlewild last year, you very clearly were not in a mood to be approached which is totally reasonable. We got in line the next day and you were nice enough to sign a disc for us at the end of your round at the booth.
While I completely understand concerns about fan courtesy and maintaining boundaries during competition, it's good to remember that you guys would be nothing without "the gallery people.” Don’t lose sight of that as you count your piles of (their) money. It's no coincidence that with the explosive growth of this sport there's also been an observable sense of self-importance on the rise among many top players.
Sounds like you’re making excuses to be bad fans.
@@waynebryant1857 Did you read what I said? Their concerns about bad fans are rational and completely understandable. Nobody should be interrupting them while they prepare for a match. The way they talk about spectators en masse (as "the gallery people"), however, makes them sound inexcusably pretentious
Fans in general just seem to be getting crazier and crazier these days. Many don't use a lick of common sense when it comes to trying to meet their favorite pro players. As a fan and an amateur disc golfer, if I'm ever a spectator at a pro tournament, I will respect all the pros space and just let them work. I'll fan boy on the inside. IMHO your fav pro does NOT owe you anything just because you follow them on soc media, and buy all of their signature discs.
It's incredibly difficult to have a hole that makes par difficult without making birdie almost impossible. This is because the short game in disc golf is so incredibly easy compared to ball golf. So if you have a par 3, for example, that's difficult to lay up for the par, then the route to get to the green is going to be that much more difficult or impossible. How do you have a par 3 with a gettable birdie but a difficult par (if you attempt to go for par)? I think hole 6 at Maple Hill is a great example. If you go for the green it's a fantastic risk/reward hole. But if you (a tour pro) wanted to, you could easily lay up to the fat part of the fairway and have a decently easy chip up for par. How do you make that hole have a difficult par route without absolutely destroying any chance at birdie (or deterring everyone from even trying?) I don't know if you can, and that's just the nature of disc golf. In ball golf you can do a lot with the green and the green surrounds to solve some of these problems.
Brodie could have been Paul McBeth's greatest nemesis if he had started playing DG 15 years earlier. Ultimate beat the crap out of Brodie physically... his knees are shot at 35YO. Also... he switched to DG when he was around 32, but yet still is consistently in the top 30 at DGPT events. I know... "could of, would of, should of" but the dude has talent, it is just too late for him.
Brody ask the question and let them answer! You keep going on and on giving them options to what you think they are going to answer with….. totally annoying and let Uli ask more questions thanks
Paul needs to work on his RBF… 😂😅
Really Bad Fall?
Reel Big Fish?
Rancid big feet
Lol. lowkey true
Rhbh*?
C’mon Simon, I like bright colors. And I’m gonna wear what I like. Joel freeman is probably the same. He’s not making a statement, he’s just wearing what he likes to wear.
I personally would rather have these low scoring tournaments where only a stroke or two separates the leader board. I would like to see the leader no more than like 5 or 6 under
Roy G should open up for the tour.
Not sure “ruined it for the rest of us” from Uli is right. But just talked the fact about no one else has a shot named after them.
As a person going to my first event in a couple weeks, honest question…if you wanted to get discs(s) signed by some pros, your not a kid, and you wanted to be very respectful not to ruin anyone’s focus before a round, what’s like the best time or way to approach the pros? Everything they mentioned as being walked up on by fans during warm up is explicitly against the fan guidelines/rules on the DGPT site for spectators. I don’t want to be that asshole fan. Taking a selfie on the 18th tee box is like the epitome of the douchebag I don’t want to be…and yet I would love to get some of my favorite pros to sign a disc…hire a kid? 😂 I’m open to ideas.
After the round is over there probably will be a few pros willingly signing autographs for 30-60 minutes. You may not get your choice but usually they are top players.
Many pros will sign discs and other things after their round. Usually each major manufacturer will have a tent or station set up somewhere near parking at the event and the pros will go to the tent of their sponsor to sign things if they are so inclined. You can almost he sure if they finish in the top 10 for the final round or if they shoot a hot round for one of the earlier rounds and they are one of the more prominent players that they will be available for a bit at the tent/station after the round. If they have a rough tournament/round they may not choose to stick around as Uli alluded to.
im 100% yelling in german at simon next time i see him
I would think that your brand (being likable) would be a good enough reason for the tour to invest in protecting the athletes from those distractions.
My opinion- don’t ask a pro to sign a disc unless it’s their tour series
Or something you bought from them
Charge for signing.
Is this a clip or a new interview? Make it more clear
Brody out there looking skinny!
How can Paul say that he likes 5 under as a score and then say holes should be easy to oar.
There are too many people that don't know how to read (the room) Use ropes.
Also get the cameramans out of the field of play
Paul, Simon, and Brodie. Your answer about putting fans in an insignificant place when it comes to autographs is disappointing. If you have a bad round the fans will forget and still purchase your disc. If you act self indulgent and chase them away, they won't forget that. You make money by being a face, a public figure. I personally don't ask for signatures because I'm afraid to become an uninterested fan. Honestly I think being a fan of a person that can throw a frisbee well is kind of weak but being a fan of strong values person is more appropriate.
There is a time and place. These guys are professional athletes trying to make a living. You are more likely as a fan of disc golf to be able to meet your favorite player and potentially get a picture or autograph than really any major sport, so you at least owe it to that player to be tactful about it and not go and approach them while they are actively warming up before their round or actively playing a round. Wait until a round is over and go find them at their sponsor's tent and do it there. Easy peasy.
Simon makes $1m/yr but 90% of his income in disc sales. Oh snap.
I think on camera the course is bad.
Bit of a long clip lol
Yea man Joel Freeman is annoying
Brodie chin wags too much, his voice is grating. I like Uli's BS dramatisations better. The U-linator said there are 5 high rise baskets average at any given tournament, how about ONE low rise ground (rim/nub) level basket? Old sport originating object baskets used to be played at ground level.
chin wags is a new one
@@FoundationPodcasts New to you, the former, but back then not yet CEO of Kohls was the 1st one I heard use the term 'chin wag' in 73'. He'd also call random clowns a Dillweed. The only thing new in this world, is the history you don't know.
Nah. Chin wags is a new one. Lmao
@@HARwinsOUTagain Keep your gnaw-ing to yourself, rest up, go take a gnaw-nap and grind your teeth.
Appreciate the conversation, but as much as Pro Golf is brought up, they walk by fans ALL the time and don't sign or give high fives. To each their own, fans are going to like you one way or another, can't please every single person who comes to watch.