This is fantastic! You did a great job figuring it out first of all, and then explained how to play it just perfectly. If you're taking requests, I would love to see you show how to play Dye The Water Green...
Man nicely done! Great musicianship! Dumb question, but in the VHS video he put up isn't he playing without a capo? What tuning did he do it in? Did you use a capo for a reason?
thanks so much! i did notice that he wasn't playing with a capo in the video. to play without a capo you would have to play with the tuning i used but 3 half steps up, which would likely snap your strings. (unless you are playing with a very very light string gauge specifically for tuning up). it could be that, or the VHS video could be pitched up after recording, or he could be playing in a lower tuning and using higher frets to get the same notes. regardless, i found it easiest to play the song in the tuning i used. the reason i used a capo is because i couldn't tune my strings up to the same pitch as the video without them breaking. i just learned the song 3 steps down in a tuning that i could play in and then put a capo on the 3rd fret to play along with the original video. that's not a dumb question at all, don't be afraid to let me know if you have more. i'm glad i could help with the song!
Thank you sooooooo very much! Do you have any idea, how to compose something like this? Do you know more musicians like Bibio, with fingerpicking-Songs in that style, for inspiration? I mean, I can play all the "standard" Songs with Travis-Patterns etc. but this is so special and different. I tried to compose in that style, but i have no clue what im doing. I don't even know the "name" of that tuning... Thank you and greetings from Germany
listen to the album "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake. it's one of my favorites of all time and a lot of the music is similar to Patchouli May. as far as composing something that sounds like this, a lot of it has to do with the tuning. Nick Drake often played in CGCFCE tuning, or BEBEBE, which are unique to him and make his music sound special and different like you said. i recommend music by people like Bibio, Nick Drake, Jose Gonzalez, Sun Kil Moon, Alexi Murdoch, Mimicking Birds, and Tallest Man on Earth. all of these artists play in unusual tunings and it contributes greatly to the special quality of their music. the reason for this is that each tuning allows easy access to certain chords and makes others really difficult just because of where the notes fall on the fretboard in relation to one another. for example, standard tuning makes it very easy to play open chords and barred major and minor chords. at the same time, it makes other chords extremely difficult to play, or to even find to begin with. by changing tunings, new chords and chord voicings will be found all over the neck that you would've never been able to think of or play comfortably in standard tuning. music like this sounds different because the tunings used lend themselves to a style of composition that is not possible in E standard, and is therefore uncommon in most genres of music. my advice to compose music similar to this is to experiment in different tunings and just play around until you find certain sounds you like. it's easy to come up with different music than you typically would if you don't know where any of the notes or chords are after changing tunings. familiarize yourself with tunings like DADGBE, CGCFCE, DADF#BE, DADF#AD, DADEAD, DADEBC#, and many many many other random tunings. find one you really like and master it. after that, writing different music should start to come naturally. hopefully that answers some of your questions. let me know if there's anything else you're curious about!
@@hekzter3895 just out of interest - how did you learn this by ear? Is there any programme you followed? it's something I'm really not great at but you seem to have cracked it. How did you know especially to tune to this tuning? And to use the capo? Baffles me...
i’ve just spent a lot of time learning songs by ear. i don’t do typically follow any specific rules or anything like that. it gets easier the more you practice, but it still takes me a few hours at least to ensure i’m playing exactly what’s heard in the recording. i start by listening to the song A LOT. i’ve found that it’s far easier if i don’t have to replay the song every time to hear what’s next. just make sure you’ve heard it enough times to hum through the melody all the way through without error. after that, i sit with my guitar and slow down the song significantly. i listen to it very very very slowly and make sure every note i’m playing is the same as what i hear. this takes a long time usually, but as i mentioned before you learn to get faster with experience. being this precise isn’t necessary, many people learn to play songs by ear just to sound similar. i prefer being 100% accurate whenever possible if i’m writing tabs or explaining how to play a song like this just so others are given the opportunity to play it the same as the original or choose to make changes based on their own style. for this song specifically, i struggled a lot with finding a tuning that made it so i could play it accurately. luckily i’ve spent enough time doing things like this that i can hear the difference between fretted and open strings, so if i hear a certain note being played on an open string over and over i know that’s what that string is tuned to. it’s important to listen extremely slowly so that i can make out every note that’s being played at the same time. once i know every note being played i can then tune the other strings in such a way that the notes land comfortably next to each other on the fretboard, and then i make sure that the tuning i end up using works throughout the entire song. for patchouli may, this first step alone took me a couple of days. the strings i heard being played open were too high for me to tune up to, so i pitched the song down to a key center that was within the range i could tune my strings to without them breaking. once i find the correct tuning, i put the song back to it’s original pitch and put the capo on whatever fret brings that tuning up to match the song. i know that it may seem impossible at first, but if you spend more time practicing learning by ear these things will come more naturally. it’s worth noting that this song was far more difficult to learn than most, so it’s not often as complicated as i described. there’s a lot i’d like to mention but it’s a bit too much for a youtube comment. would you like for me to record a video explaining in depth what i do to learn songs by ear from start to finish? i have a lot i could share that might help you. i’m also willing to consider learning and teaching other songs you haven’t been able to find any help with. thanks for your interest, i’m glad i could help out with this one:D
@@hekzter3895 Thanks so much for taking the time to explain your process. Feel indebted to you already so don't worry about doing any more. Gonna start to try to learn by ear because of you!
sure! the shapes in the top left are basically top down pictures of the fretboard. the thickest string is on the bottom ,the thinnest string is on the top, and the bottom frets are on the left. the red circles are the places on each string that you should place your fingers to play each part. the strings with no red circle are just played open without fretting anything. hopefully that helped. is there anything in particular that you’re struggling with?
For some reason it changed. Here is the link: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LkHuMkUKSESt7_N2ZiE8uhfes3dju1fm?usp=drive_link I changed it in the description as well. Thanks for letting me know! Edit: RUclips will no longer let me post links without taking a picture of my ID... strange
Dude, you absolutely nailed this. Bibio puts a ton of detail and nuance into his guitar parts, and you captured all of it here. Thank you so much.
thank you for the kind words:D i did my best to be completely accurate so that’s nice to hear
oh my, this is amazing! thank you so much. i just learned Ode to a Nuthatch, now I know what I'll be learning next :D
let me know if you have any trouble!
this is fantastic, good work dude
thank you, glad i could help out
This is fantastic! You did a great job figuring it out first of all, and then explained how to play it just perfectly. If you're taking requests, I would love to see you show how to play Dye The Water Green...
i'll look into it! i'm glad you could follow along with my explanation because i was worried it wouldn't make much sense. thanks for the comment!
the goat the goat thanks merry Christmas!!!
of course! merry christmas to you too
Wow thanks for this you just made my night, gonna take a crack at it
let me know if you have any questions!
Man nicely done! Great musicianship!
Dumb question, but in the VHS video he put up isn't he playing without a capo? What tuning did he do it in? Did you use a capo for a reason?
thanks so much!
i did notice that he wasn't playing with a capo in the video. to play without a capo you would have to play with the tuning i used but 3 half steps up, which would likely snap your strings. (unless you are playing with a very very light string gauge specifically for tuning up). it could be that, or the VHS video could be pitched up after recording, or he could be playing in a lower tuning and using higher frets to get the same notes. regardless, i found it easiest to play the song in the tuning i used.
the reason i used a capo is because i couldn't tune my strings up to the same pitch as the video without them breaking. i just learned the song 3 steps down in a tuning that i could play in and then put a capo on the 3rd fret to play along with the original video.
that's not a dumb question at all, don't be afraid to let me know if you have more. i'm glad i could help with the song!
Oh yep that makes sense 😂 capo is the right move! you're right it's probably been pitch shifted in the video or something. Nice mate
Thank you sooooooo very much! Do you have any idea, how to compose something like this? Do you know more musicians like Bibio, with fingerpicking-Songs
in that style, for inspiration? I mean, I can play all the "standard" Songs with Travis-Patterns etc. but this is so special and different. I tried to compose in that style, but
i have no clue what im doing. I don't even know the "name" of that tuning...
Thank you and greetings from Germany
listen to the album "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake. it's one of my favorites of all time and a lot of the music is similar to Patchouli May. as far as composing something that sounds like this, a lot of it has to do with the tuning. Nick Drake often played in CGCFCE tuning, or BEBEBE, which are unique to him and make his music sound special and different like you said. i recommend music by people like Bibio, Nick Drake, Jose Gonzalez, Sun Kil Moon, Alexi Murdoch, Mimicking Birds, and Tallest Man on Earth. all of these artists play in unusual tunings and it contributes greatly to the special quality of their music.
the reason for this is that each tuning allows easy access to certain chords and makes others really difficult just because of where the notes fall on the fretboard in relation to one another. for example, standard tuning makes it very easy to play open chords and barred major and minor chords. at the same time, it makes other chords extremely difficult to play, or to even find to begin with. by changing tunings, new chords and chord voicings will be found all over the neck that you would've never been able to think of or play comfortably in standard tuning. music like this sounds different because the tunings used lend themselves to a style of composition that is not possible in E standard, and is therefore uncommon in most genres of music.
my advice to compose music similar to this is to experiment in different tunings and just play around until you find certain sounds you like. it's easy to come up with different music than you typically would if you don't know where any of the notes or chords are after changing tunings. familiarize yourself with tunings like DADGBE, CGCFCE, DADF#BE, DADF#AD, DADEAD, DADEBC#, and many many many other random tunings. find one you really like and master it. after that, writing different music should start to come naturally.
hopefully that answers some of your questions. let me know if there's anything else you're curious about!
@@hekzter3895 wow, thank you very much for your detailed answer! This helps me alot and i will Check out the Artist you named.
Thank you!!!
@@moba2529 glad to help :D
What are similar artists who play fingerstyle like bibio
?
Man you absolute legend so much love for this!
glad i could help:D let me know if there are any other songs you’d like me to make a video about
@@hekzter3895 just out of interest - how did you learn this by ear? Is there any programme you followed? it's something I'm really not great at but you seem to have cracked it. How did you know especially to tune to this tuning? And to use the capo? Baffles me...
i’ve just spent a lot of time learning songs by ear. i don’t do typically follow any specific rules or anything like that. it gets easier the more you practice, but it still takes me a few hours at least to ensure i’m playing exactly what’s heard in the recording.
i start by listening to the song A LOT. i’ve found that it’s far easier if i don’t have to replay the song every time to hear what’s next. just make sure you’ve heard it enough times to hum through the melody all the way through without error.
after that, i sit with my guitar and slow down the song significantly. i listen to it very very very slowly and make sure every note i’m playing is the same as what i hear. this takes a long time usually, but as i mentioned before you learn to get faster with experience.
being this precise isn’t necessary, many people learn to play songs by ear just to sound similar. i prefer being 100% accurate whenever possible if i’m writing tabs or explaining how to play a song like this just so others are given the opportunity to play it the same as the original or choose to make changes based on their own style.
for this song specifically, i struggled a lot with finding a tuning that made it so i could play it accurately. luckily i’ve spent enough time doing things like this that i can hear the difference between fretted and open strings, so if i hear a certain note being played on an open string over and over i know that’s what that string is tuned to.
it’s important to listen extremely slowly so that i can make out every note that’s being played at the same time. once i know every note being played i can then tune the other strings in such a way that the notes land comfortably next to each other on the fretboard, and then i make sure that the tuning i end up using works throughout the entire song.
for patchouli may, this first step alone took me a couple of days. the strings i heard being played open were too high for me to tune up to, so i pitched the song down to a key center that was within the range i could tune my strings to without them breaking. once i find the correct tuning, i put the song back to it’s original pitch and put the capo on whatever fret brings that tuning up to match the song.
i know that it may seem impossible at first, but if you spend more time practicing learning by ear these things will come more naturally. it’s worth noting that this song was far more difficult to learn than most, so it’s not often as complicated as i described. there’s a lot i’d like to mention but it’s a bit too much for a youtube comment.
would you like for me to record a video explaining in depth what i do to learn songs by ear from start to finish? i have a lot i could share that might help you. i’m also willing to consider learning and teaching other songs you haven’t been able to find any help with.
thanks for your interest, i’m glad i could help out with this one:D
@@hekzter3895 Thanks so much for taking the time to explain your process. Feel indebted to you already so don't worry about doing any more. Gonna start to try to learn by ear because of you!
Is tab at 4.48 correct ??
Can you go more into the finger shapes please I’m having a hard time figuring it out?
sure! the shapes in the top left are basically top down pictures of the fretboard. the thickest string is on the bottom ,the thinnest string is on the top, and the bottom frets are on the left.
the red circles are the places on each string that you should place your fingers to play each part. the strings with no red circle are just played open without fretting anything.
hopefully that helped. is there anything in particular that you’re struggling with?
can you send the link again? the one in your caption won’t work for some reason
For some reason it changed. Here is the link:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LkHuMkUKSESt7_N2ZiE8uhfes3dju1fm?usp=drive_link
I changed it in the description as well. Thanks for letting me know!
Edit: RUclips will no longer let me post links without taking a picture of my ID... strange
Let me know if the link posted in my reply is working for you. If not I'll find another way to get it to you
Nice song but can you cook?
i dont know how to tune it