TenPoint is starting off 2024 with a BANG!
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- Опубликовано: 10 янв 2024
- 2024 is upon us and that means new crossbow offerings to look at!
I am not sponsored by anyone! But I do share what I like and what I don't like. And I like a good coupon code to save a few bucks as much as you do (see below). My "perfect" crossbow setup these days includes:
Killer Instinct SWAT X1 (starting 2023)
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Dragon Claw arrows from Wyvern Creations (good outfit, been buying different gear there for years, these arrows are great in the SWAT)
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Bunjie (The Original Bunjie, The O.B.) is my 2010 Excalibur Axiom that got me hooked on crossbow hunting. This was my "one gun" for more than a decade and Bunjie's reliability is the reason I ONLY hunt with a crossbow. After killing dozens of deer, hogs, squirrels, woodchucks, and even a bear, Bunjie is now semi-retired, but still gets out every year and even killed two deer 2023--and a woodchuck at 81 yards!
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Bunjie, Jr., is my daughter Genevieve's crossbow, an Excalibur Micro Suppressor 355. This crossbow was also a much appreciated gift from a Friend of Bunjie, and it changed Death by Bunjie forever by inspiring Genevieve to become a part of our story as a second-generation crossbow hunter, and it also convinced me there is a benefit to a newer, faster crossbow back in 2020 when I began the Quest for a Successor to Bunjie. Enter Bunjie III (or Bunjie '21, Bunjie 3.0, The Slick Black Cadillac of Crossbows), a 2021 Scorpyd Deathstalker 420, the result of trying various models and looking at dozens of them online for characteristics I liked. It is, in fact, a gift from a Friend of Bunjie, which goes to show how important Friends of Bunjie are to this channel and what an impact they can have. Bunjie III is a testament to modern crossbows, producing over .7 slugs of momentum and almost 140 ft-lbs of kinetic energy with stock arrows--at around 400 fps! This crossbow helped expand the Kingdom fo Bunjie by introducing me to compound crossbows and showing me they're nothing to be feared, and also helped me get my first deer on public ground. This crossbow also inspired the "Rule of 400" that I talk about from time to time: a crossbow that can shoot a 400 grain arrow at 400 feet per second is the definition of a modern crossbow--producing over .7 slugs of momentum and over 140 foot pounds of kinetic energy, the envy of the archery world.
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Rich , Where & when is the speed of Crossbows going to stop . I think crossbow hunters are going to take farther & farther shots & you are going to have more wounded deer . Don’t know if I agree with faster & faster Crossbows . Seems like it is taking the fun out of trying to get that deer in close for the shot . How many deer have you shot with the O.B.? You shot a lot of deer in the years hunting with it ?
Hopefully it doesn't stop...hopefully crossbow technology continues to progress...as for the fun, speed and distance are two different things. We can still shoot 20 and under. 400 fps does 20 better than 300fps, and I'm betting 500 does it better than 400. Yep I can still shoot deer with the OB...and I will continue to use it, but the 400fps reduces deer ducking the string at 30 and under so much that I can't pass it up. It really is a big deal to me. Someday I think I'll be saying the same thing about 500. We'll see!
I do totally understand your concern though, I really do.
Thanks Rich , I appreciate you responding to my question , appreciate your comments. Thanks
@robperce
Just FYI,
I have a 505 and have never shot a deer beyond 35 yards.
@robperce
Just FYI,
I have a 505 and have never shot a deer beyond 35 yards.
I’m happy with my Center Point Sniper 370. I just can’t justify spending $3000+ for a crossbow.
I have both the Sniper 370 and the Sniper Elite 385. They give you a lot for under $400 that is for sure.
Dude I have a cp 390 it has never failed me /has taken many deer /cost me 299$(Canadian funds)
Dont worry. I took care of that for you. And i can tell you its worth every penny to get the Lambo of xbows.
Allright!!! A second video within a week! Awesome looking crossbow, but I've got a feeling it'll be out of my price range.
Me too, but next 2 videos address more affordable options!
@@Deathbybunjie can’t wait, been considering another one.
Its tenpoint so it'll be out of most of our price ranges lol
Love your input, and how passionate you are, regarding crossbow hunting. But you do seem to be going high-tech on everything. Yep, turning me off a bit. I'm sorry, just being honest.
I've never met so many people or talk to so many people, that know so many people this year, that have taken, shots, past 30 yards, because of all the high tech stuff there loaded with. But missed, and/ or injured the animal and never recovered them. And yes, I'm a Tad guilty of thinking in the same way. With my new crossbow, I actually considered taking one outside of 30 yds. I didn't, and I'm thankful. But I thought about it. I passed on several shots over 30 yards. I practiced over 30, many, many times. I guess I'm just a traditionalist. The brutes I'm hunting will be there, next year. Hopefully. At least a couple of them.
Not against all the high-tech groovy stuff, That's out there. But we seem to be pushing our boundaries more and more. Not sold, that that's a good thing in the long run. Like I said I'm somewhat of a traditionalist, I just love being out there, and the cat and mouse game that comes with it. All the Intel gathering, preparation, camaraderie of being with family and friends or just by yourself, perseverance, solitude, achievement and gratitude when it all comes together.
I can see us getting too high tech! I hope we don't go to far🤷 🤔😉
500+ fps is crazy! It’s truly in a category by itself.
There isn’t anything else that truly compares. The way you judge targets, broadheads, and other equipment is completely different.
My Ravin R500 shoots 502fps and its a joy to fire. Looking forward to snagging one of these TRX’s
As mentioned below , Horton introduced its RDT in 2008 and Scorpyd Crossbows started theirs in 2009. The better half uses the Horton Havoc still and insisted she wants no part of upgrading . She loves it.
Always look forward to your reviews and thoughts on upcoming new bows thanks Rich
Nothing better than a R10
Rich, great info, I like how push the limits, keep up the good work.
Forget about that all new staff. ALL HAIL BUNJIE!!! I love it, LOL!!!
Thanks for describing your information perfectly and on point !
Great crossbow, I just ordered one fron Wyvern creations , great service, they sending it to my good friends house in Virginia and I'm flying over to collect it , my best to you and yours , keep up the great videos Rich 😊
I bought the havoc one love it! Ten Point is definitely the top of the line and leaders in the industry for sure
I am on my second crossbow. My first one was a Parker that shot a little over 300fps and my current on is a TenPoint turbo S1 that I've had for about a year. After watching your videos I've decided to give the Swhacker broadheads next year. I'm sticking with the 100gr ones...
The prices of these new crossbows are insane. Yes, they are faster, but they do the same thing as one that is 400$.
There's some truth to that, but I have to tell you that in my experience 400 does everything better than 300. So I think the argument can be made that 500 does everything better than 400 LOL
U can order a 400fps crossbow from 500-900 dollars just look online
Thank you for sharing!!
There wicked ridge line not to bad I got the rdx 410 this year it’s been a great crossbow so far
Awesome 👌 glad to hear it 💯
I have two Wicked Ridge M370s...one with a crank and one without. They are very nice for the money and you get a good value/price point/quality with them. Also have a Tenpoint Titan M1 with a crank to compare them to. The Wicked Ridge M370 with the rope cocker I got a sweet deal on a slightly used one where the guy needed the money for $360.00. The new one with a crank was on sale for a really good price of $499.99 at Bass Pro Shop. I got the Tenpoint Titan M1 for $699.99 when I got it. That too was on special sale. No need to spend over 2k to get a quality crossbow.
Really enjoy your videos, within 5 years, looking forward to your review of the 6 round semi automatic 650 fps Bunjie King.
great video my friend ,look foward to the next one, cheers from perth ,australia
I agree with the 400fps 400gr. arrow concept 100% ! I’m currently running a 450x450 setup
That is my favorite “right now “. Took me some time to tune my arrows because of using fixed bh’s. The 500fps bow with any thing other than a factory 400 gr.arrow has really been a struggle! I should say STILL is a pain in the butt.
Still working on it though.
P.S-you are definitely hitting the nail on the head by taking a good look at the arrows. Weight,strength,shaft and most importantly for “my” benefit, the nocks !
Love the videos! Mike👍🏻
Horton vision was the very first reverse limb i ever seen i bought one atleast 10-12 yrs ago and it shot really good but had limbs crack twice over 3 yrs i owned it
Still love my Scorpyd tho. Bought it back in 2010-ish, was the Fastest then..... still faster than Most today😂😂.... cost was $1300 back then...
Aged well for sure like a fine wine!
My want and bucket list has a Scorpyd Deathstalker LT in it. I plan to use my tax refund to finally get it to add to my crossbow collection. To date the most expensive crossbows I own are a Mission Sub-1 and a Ravin R10. All the others were less than $850 and most between $450 and $850 less the Centerpoint Sniper 370 and Sniper Elite 385.
You hit the nail with the sweet spot. I have a Thunderhawk and will many $$$$ Before I pay another $1000 for a CB. Also agree Ravin, Ten Point and any other that is 2500-5k is too much.
I have an old Excalibur that is flinging heavy arrows fairly slow, but it kills deer. I'm in the same camp where that price is way too much but the Venom X looks real nice.
Good video Rich !
My Tenpoint from 3 years ago is still holding up. I hope to get a few more years out of it. As much as I'd love to have the latest and greatest, I'm with you Rich, I just won't pay that for a crossbow.
Khm. The first (modern) reverse draw crossbow was, I believe, the Russian "Leo Pro" perhaps a decade and a half or so ago. I believe the Ten Point and other payed to use the patent. And, the first rail-less design was probably the Tom Jennings Devastator crossbow, in mid 1980's which was under production untill late 1990's or early 2000s. There was also a trackless PSE model called Firefox, but somehow I think the Jennings one was first. So, these two concepts are not a Ravin or Scorpyd inventions.
You’re Hundo P right , the arrows are often overlooked. The fact that you have a 445 grain arrow flying at 495 ft./s is truly revolutionary in terms of its weight-to-power ratio. Additionally, when you consider the use of a wide fixed broadhead that is heavier than a mechanical one, it becomes even more impressive. It might be worth reaching out to Troy Fowler, who runs a RUclips channel called Ranch Fairy . The channel is dedicated to the study of arrows and broadheads. I'm curious to know what he would think about this setup.
If money was no object that 440 would be hanging on a hook in my shed and you could come shoot it. That is one nice bow. Great job on the video Rich! 👍👍
Great video! You are my go to guy for crossbow info hands down! A great crossbow for sure but like you, out of my budget. I will be replacing my recurve crossbow {Barnett Blackcat} this season and my choice is the Wicked Ridge RDX 410 at $899.00. 410ft 146 KE. tipped with a 150 Schwacker, look out!! Have a great weekend and thanks again for all the info!
That sounds like a great set up to me! Good luck!
All hail Jim Kempf!!!
Great video !! Like that trophy room buddy
Thanks, it's coming along LOL
I just had a dozen dragon claw arrow shafts spine aligned at the bow shop using the newest technology and the arrow shafts were .001,which costs less than $2 an arrow.The newest technology on spine aligning an arrow is on a video called dynamic arrow tuning.Note: the complete set up is about $150.Nice video here,a lot to think about.😊
Badass! I’ve been wanting a nice Ravin but with Tenpoint build quality and warranty for a minute. Now the tx440 or TRX515? 🤔
Love the AR style thumb safety too.
Me too!
Iv sold 2 of my older crossbows and my compound and im gonna order one of these 515s i already have 12 sevr 150 broad heads and a bunch of the swat broad heads ready to rock.
Going way back they had 900 and 1000 lbs crossbow that shot about 250 fps
I watched a like 5 minute ad on RUclips. Pretty impressive looking stuff. When they make one dead silent let me know, LOL. THAT seems to be the holy grail as much as speed.
Shoot 5 grains per pound like a compound bow and it will quiet it down. At 300 pounds of draw weight, a 1500-grain hour will shoot pretty quiet. If the crossbow is shooting a 400-grain arrow with 300 pounds draw weight, that is 1.33 grains per pound. That is why these crossbows are pretty loud. It's almost a dry fire when shot. I am amazed that they hold together as well as they do.
I agree a heavier Arrow makes sense but not 1500 grains LOL
Another great feature of these two new models. They have new anti dry fire technology . They will not fire unless a arrow is loaded. Hi
Great info Rich. They keep pushing the boundaries don't they?
Yes they do!
I think one of the things I'd like to see moving forward is broadheads that match up to the speeds we are seeing with these. I have a 470 from TenPoint and there is too much power lost (as you talked about in a previous video). I've shot two so far this year, a turkey and a deer. The turkey didn't make it 20 yards, wing bones were broken and it was a pass-thru, but it also sank the entire arrow into the ground, the only thing that I found was the nock sticking out of the grass 95% of that arrow as in the ground. Arrow was 100% fine as was the broadhead, but.. that's a lot of energy that was left over and used to put that arrow into the ground.
With the deer shot, it was a bit better, pass-thru, deer went 125 yards or so, but arrow as ~6-8" in the ground. Still a lot of lost energy. So, as I said to start I'd love to see Sevr come out with a bigger Robusto, 3"? 175-200g? Sounds good to me. I'd love to try that out.
I love the idea as you said, the arrow ends up 5 or so feet beyond the target laying on top of the ground... all energy dumped into that animal.
Great points here and I agree about that Broadhead I'd like to see that also
Trigger tech is the trigger that Barnett has been using for many years,which Barnett says is a $200 upgrade
Interesting!
I have that on my Barnett TS380. I bought that as a demo model with a tiny scratch in the limb pocket deeply discounted for $449.99. When I got it home I took my Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black touch up I use on my ARs and it darkened right up where you can't see it unless you are told and shown where. That is a $550 - $600 crossbow depending on where you get it any day of the week.
Very helpful video. Im either going to buy the New TX 440 or the Flatline 460.... I seriously cant decide . Which do you recommend?
The absolute game changer is these dual point solid scope rails. I have 4 expensive, fast crossbows and they all have the same weak point. Barely tap that scope and now your a mile off.
Thanks américain brother Iaorana from Tahiti
Most of the technology on both bows comes from Scorpyd. The accuslide comes from scorpyd the worm drive system ravin uses to autocock their bow also comes from scorpyd.
I cant even get into the excals micros,sticking with my older excalibers phoenix, matrix 355 and 380 one of them should get the job done?????
it would be fun to see the twisting movement of the limbs in slowmotion with these new x-bow limbs wich i think is going to be a problem/issue if not taken into account, i cant find much info about the, one other thing to think about is what happens if a string breaks will limbs survive this without micro-cracks of breakeage. i dont mind faster arrows but seems this the price is getting way to high as i said previously if one wants a faster arrow get the 1" without fletching so one can shoot at 100y or more and use a string ilencer on it, so you can hunt wabbits seems that one can get 4 or more rifles for these prices as well
Good stuff Rich! Thanks. Why don't you do a study on speed and accuracy when it is cold and then warm. In Wisconsin we hunt in a lot of freezing weather. How does that affect crossbows? Crossbow limbs have to get stiffer in cold weather. Just something to consider. Currently watching your video's during a blizzard here in Cheeseland.......
This is a great topic. I've only ever tested that specifically with one of my crossbows and that of course is the OB. Would be neat to see how others perform.
I hunted in -15 in Michigan and I can tell you the limbs get stiff and can Crack at cold temperatures! Once you shoot !
At this point for my uses I care more about ergonomics cocking/decocking and overall weight…they are all fast enough for deer. I’ve yet to find a crossbow I’m happy with the location of the safety
I'm new to your channel, and love it btw.
Not sure if I'm speaking out of turn here, but all these modern crossbows seem too over complicated.
I have a basic 175 lb crossbow, and it puts out around 375 ft/sec with the alloy arrows I have.
I have seen over powered crossbows passing through targets here on RUclips.
I have bows as well , recurve and compound, and I find the old kit is more reliable, cheaper and less faff than newer stuff.
I have shot 7.62 and 5.56 whilst serving, nothing beats a bolt or arrow hitting hard imho.
This new stuff is a waste of ££££ greetings from England 🇬🇧
Hey Rich I believe all Ravin models after 2018 did not have the cantilever scope rail. It’s a one piece secured in front and back. It must be removed before any bow press work can be done 😐. (R26 and R29 series x-bows) not really a big deal, just one more step in the process 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🇺🇸
That's interesting, good to know thank you!
@@Deathbybunjie Looks like the all models Other than the 26 and 29’s still have the cantilevered set up. How ever if you look at images of the R5 and R10 you will see where the front of a full length scope rail “would be screwed down “. I believe but don’t quote me,that the cantilever could be swapped out. 😃👍🏻🇺🇸. Have a great day!
@@Deathbybunjie. P. S. The R500 is a “one piece”. also 🙂🤚🏻
A lil off subject I’m looking at getting my first crossbow, and have limited funds what are your thoughts and opinions on the centerpoint wrath vs the KI vital x? Love your videos.
Hard for me to pick. I haven't shot the Wrath but really like what I've seen. I have shot the Vital X and I liked it a lot. I'd shoot both and decide based on what one fits you better, then focus on arrow selection IMO.
P.S. Bass Pro Shop still has those Wicked Ridge M370s with a crank on super sale as of typing this for $499.99 and free shipping. That's a smoking deal and about $300 off MSRP.......
Axe crossbow were the first twin riser I know of with no rail
Deer will not jump the bolt. And you can now use heavier bolts to slow it down.
I thought Horton owned the reverse limb technology, and that was TenPoint’s reason for acquiring then years ago. That said, I could also be wrong.
I was wrong. Looked it up. Scorpid owns the patent. 👍🏻😊
Horton had actually licensed it from 10 point from what I understand and when Ravin bought 10-point day bought that license. So they just send the check to scorpyd haha
Great vid!
Hey Rich, was wondering if you could shoot a full length arrow (say 30” black eagle rampage) out of bunjie the 3rd (scorpyd death stalker). If not, why? Really fascinated about arrow limitations with crossbows.
Thanks
Arrows that long are gonna be too narrow in diameter to properly ride the rail, and stick out past stirrup...not a good idea.
@@Deathbybunjie wondering even if they had arrows thick enough for that, you’d still think because they’d hang off a good ten plus inches from the rail the balance point, when shot, would seriously hamper its flight.
That price tag though 😂😂😂
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I agree with you about spending 3k on a crossbow. Most of my crossbows (12 of them) were in the $450 - $850 range. I do also own a Mission Sub-1 camo and a Ravin R10 camo as well. I thought I needed my head examined when I pulled the trigger on those buys. Even so you are talking $1,200 to $1,700ish NOT three grand! That is insane and obnoxious for a crossbow. It wasn't that long ago you could buy a brand new 125cc 2-stroke motocross dirtbike for that much or just a little more. I paid $3,200 for a 1988 Ford Ranger XLT with 82,000 miles on it in 1993 for reference as well.
So would you purchase the KI Swat X1 again? Any issues with it? Thanks for sharing.
💯 definitely would buy it again. Make sure if you get one that it has the updated strings and cables common or at least get new ones put on if it needs them or really just keep an eye on them like I said in that one video last fall but other than that this thing is really really living up to expectations in every way.
Pmsl been watching some of your videos only just relised your fire is a TV 🙈
Killer instinct lethal 405 cheap but highly effective in all my whitetail endeavors .
Oh yeah! Sounds good to me!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
hey rich great vid but i have a off topic question related to ten point. do you know of an alternative lighted nock for ten point their design is awful and unreliable?
That's a tough one. TP nocks are best they've ever been I hear but not a lot of other options I don't think.
@@Deathbybunjie thanks.
Hey Rich, have you seen the new 2024 Ravin R50X? Not much info out there yet but as you were saying it sounds like more innovation 🤷🏼♂️
Heard about it, looking forward to the details!
I think Horton came out with the reverse draw before scorpyd. Now ten point bought Horton crossbows. I might be wrong . What I think is that purchase price is just passed to the end user. Not sure though.
The cocking device helps those of us with 2 shoulder surgeries. I haven’t hunted with my vertical bow in 2 years because of my shoulders. Now those that can rope cock your crossbow my hat is off to you.
Your right about Horton I bought one then heard ten point bought Horton. I’m having trouble getting parts because of this.
Scorpyd got the patent, and licensed it to horton. Horton was purchased by 10 point and dissolved.
You know Rick they got a lot of cheap crossbows out here and they say they shoot 400 ft a second but you know that as well as I do with Killer Instinct they can say one thing and they'll do something different most manufacturers the crossbows never shoot as fast as they say they do
Some do a better job than others, Ravin and TP and Excal tend to get their stated specs (with various arrow weights)
Should I trade in my mission sub 1 xr for a tenpoint such as their flatline or seige?
If it's not doing it for you then try some others
I don't think the top speed will increase as much as you think in the next ten years. 400-450 fps will be popular for a very long time in my opinion.
That's possible, we shall see. On one hand plenty of people tell me 600 ft per second cannot be attained. Not with an arrow. However, I can remember people telling me there was no way you could get an arrow to go 500 feet per second. And others have told me that they were told back in the day that 400 ft per second was impossible. We'll see!
I dig your fake big screen fire in the background.
I’m waiting on the electric mode. Not wasting money on this
Now that they're getting into hands of people, seems the Venom X and 440 are winners. The 515 is a mess. I'm sure you've seen the thread of problems on xbow Nation
Not my next video but the video after that talks about the 515, got some good footage LOL
How can these strings hold up on these crossbows ? You would think you would have to buy new strings every year .
If you like to shoot a lot like me, you could be changing strings and cables 2-3 or more times a year! My bow press paid for itself in the first year I owned it. For the prices of these fast bows they should come with a press lol
I can't keep the string on mine waste of $3,000. I can't even sell it because I don't want to screw somebody else over.
@@rcf3773 what x-bow are you shooting?
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk I have two a Stealth and a Nitro the nitro is the one that gives me all the problems with the string flying off.
@@rcf3773 I’m sorry I can’t help. No experience with those 🤷🏼♂️
I’m running with some Ravins
Can you hunt with arrow gun's in the usa they faster cheaper 600fps
In most places, no
Do they even have a broad head for that speed.
That's the problem with the fastest ones, not all the gear like targets and nocks and broadheads have caught up yet. We'll see!
I love 10 point products. This is classic marketing, like Apples new iPhone every year. A company that shall remain nameless has a prototype that shoots 600 fps + now..
😁😅🤣
They had the 500 prototype 1st too I think, good stuff
I still have over 250 8 track tapes
You are my kind of guy, not just because you like the analog stuff but because I'm assuming that music is from that era haha
Nice video. But I know of no 200.00 bow that shoots 400fps
Walmart gets you close (Killer Instinct)
I don't like the Acute string angle that are on the new crossbows!
I'm really surprised you didn't comment on how the arrow sits exposed 4" out past the end of the Crossbow on the 515. I'm not a fan of that at all.
If I didn't mention it in this video then I mentioned it in the next one. I did notice that at some point and I'm with you, that bothers me a great deal. Not really a design I like. Must be in the next video, I remember putting in footage of how I like to sit with a crossbow in a blind and that sort of thing.
Will tenpoints arrows work with the swat x1?
Probably not, vanes might be a problem but the nock is a biggie. There are tons of high end arrows out there though, lots of options.
@@Deathbybunjie what spine did you get for your arrows?? And what website did you order from?? If you can please give me the info for your exact ones? And thank you for always replying! I really appreciate that we have you for crossbow advice!! Great job I love watching your videos! All hail Bungie!!
@@Deathbybunjie I have been getting killer instinct arrows but the fletching keep coming off. I was thinking about getting either the blood sport arrows or the ones you use... I'm trying to add weight to my setup I currently use lighted knocks off Amazon because they are cheap and they work and they keep working after shooting them over and over lol
@daltonisom6265 I've bought lots but most recently all from Wyvern Creations...worth contacting them for recommendations for your setup
@@Deathbybunjie you bought the zombie slayers from wyvern?
With it having a barrel does that mean is a gun?
No but it's a similar thing, just that every crossbow has a barrel, it is what the rail rest upon and it's just the word that is used to describe that part of the anatomy.
Understanding....
Kempf is 10 point. Always has been.
Look at patent rights and who was there before rights were given.
10 point is the Rage of crossbows.
In as much as the money bought the tech that they could not have ever have achieved, by themselves.
Barrie built the legacy of Rage and Kempf built 10 point.
Isn’t your Scorpyd worth more than $1000?
It was a gift from a Friend of Bunjie
hmmmm nice but im living on SS so ......
Does not hold groups at 50 and 60 yards
That doesn't sound good!
Actually 75 FPS Rich! (Sorry I had to) 👍😂
Yeah you got me there, makes my point but even better haha
75 ft/sec
You know Rick like I've always said I used to own a couple different 10-point crossbows and I'm not saying that the crossbows aren't any good but I don't like the idea that this company cannot come out of the box and invent their own crossbows you know they had to buy out Horton so they could get the copyrights to the reverse limbo now they've turned around and they're trying to copy Ravin crossbows it's like they can't do nothing on their own and that's why I would never buy another 10 point because they just want to copy everybody else's crossbow they might make a little adjustment here and there to stay out of trouble but that's about it
Well, I kind of get that, but on the other hand it's more important to me that I like the crossbow I'm using than it is who made it or who invented it.
What are your thoughts on having archery season and arbalist season? Imo a different season would give archers and arbalist the respect they each deserve, free of limitations and comparisons. Curious on your take.
People hunt with something other than crossbows? I guess they're free to join us in the crossbow season...
With speed comes problems.
That's true of any changes in technology, that's for sure, but speed also solves a lot of problems too. I really prefer something around 400 ft per second over 300 ft per second that's for sure, but I'm not ready for 500 ft per second haha
Horton created reverse draw hence why ten point bought them out of bankruptcy
Close...Horton licensed it from Scorpyd. TenPoint bought Horton and thus bought the licensing rights with it.
Over 400 fps you'll need a gun lisence to own in canada.
No you don't, PAL doesn't apply to crossbows of any speed
“I don’t want crossbows doing over 400 fps because the squishy diaper vertical bow hunters will get us kicked out of their hunting season!”
First of all, the season now belongs to us! Money does make the world go around. The idea of kicking out crossbow hunters spells the death of hunting. Truth!
It doesn’t matter what the squishy diaper crew thinks! They have lost the argument long ago.
Shooting deer at ranges that are “too far” is a problem that hunters have had since before most of us have been around. Don’t get swept up by the naysayers BS! Crossbows hav deer not led to the erosion of hunting.
We all know that vertical bow hunters sometimes wound and loose deer at a higher rate than firearms hunters. The crossbow hunters are often more efficient at taking deer, provided they get a deer in front of them. Crossbows and vertical bows do not take as many deer as firearms! Never have and never will!
The disgruntled vertical bow hunters have nothing more to say!
Don’t believe the hype! What we should be doing is supporting and encouraging more hunters to take part in the sport, not alienating them because we think we’re better. Oops, that’s what some vertical bow hunters do.
There is a segment of vertical bow hunters that are just bad! Sorry, but they prove this point every day!
Certainly I’m not referring to all, but look around at many stupid pod cast and chat sites.
Those who spew bologna don’t care about anyone but themselves.
Speed difference is 75 not 65.
I'll stick to crossbows not math haha
@@Deathbybunjie read your first book, started on the second, well done, excellent reads, congratulations
@@ratliffkeithutube thank you!
Finished the second book, again well done. I might even read them again. Surprised you didn't put in more safety tips. My friend lost the first part of his right hand middle finger on MLK Day. He cocked his bow, went to remove the rope and it went off. He had his fingers on the plastic rope pullers and not in front of the string. His finger must have been pulled and slipped off and in front of the string. It was a clean cut at the first joint. He is a first year crossbower and not sure if he will ever go again. Maybe a RUclips or podcast on safety? Also, baiting with corn, I have learned not to do a pile or across in front of you. Instead, corn in a line pointed at you. The deer will eat so you have a broadside shot. Had a 140 class buck come in and stand facing me at 10 yards for 5 plus minutes. I could hear him eat the corn. Then, turned and went away. I tried to stop him, didn't help. Learned from that and now have corn on ground pointed at me.
$5,000 for a crossbow?
Yeah, right?
Crank? Naaaa. If you start the gym now might be able to do it in 2026 season
Lol
Mine was tested at 523 fps
Looks like someone is copying Ravin. I’ve shot different Ten Point crossbows, none compared with Ravin, maybe the love child copy finally will……Not.
Railless does look a little familiar 😆 but Ravin has no reverse draw though
Lol 65 fps???more or 75 fps more!!!!!
Some models are just like the ravin all tenpiont does is copy others and overpriced and overrated too love your videos bud