Laying Traditional Wooden Shingles
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Laying some traditional hand cut wooden chestnut shingles on our cooking room all by hand and using side axe and hammer.
In this film John shows you how to lay shingles or shakes, and goes into some detail. He is an expert on this having laid more than 2,000 for his woodland building alone! 
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Rafters bow down, this guy knows his stuff.
i have no idea how i got here... i just left my youtube running for 1 hour. from electronic music to this.
it is very interesting though, really like it.
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@@edwardthor7763 i do blacksmithing and have done for more than 8 years... What do you do?
This old man giving the demo has got heavy old man energy
So British the kettle goes off halfway through. Great video and I really enjoyed the crash course on the woodworking.
Spitfire!! You lucky beggar. My favourite airplane.
Cheers, Frank.
Loved watching the video on how to make shingles, So I just had to watch how to lay them. Loved the sound of that Merlin engine on that spitfire.
Excellent video. Very informative. Nice to see someone who really knows what they are doing at work.
I would have been completely distracted by the old war-bird flying overhead as well
Hello from the states. I really do appreciate all your videos.
Just adding some info about the "soaker" material, as at 9:40 he seems to be unsure how to explain the properties...: that DPC is designed to be a water barrier between the foundations and walls of a brick house. It's very durable indeed and will outlast the wood even with exposed parts to UV light. It has been given black pigment specifically to prevent UV penetration, so only the outer few molecular layers will deteriorate from sunlight. It's also designed to withstand sharp edges of concrete or brick, so it won't rip from any splinters or sharp edges it may touch, even when the structure moves slightly in the wind. Good choice :))
I've done my share of modern wood shingling. Interesting that the general methods haven't changed that much over time.
He's my favorite guest you've had. So informative
@Mike Spencer you tell me
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Hello again! I very much enjoyed the video showing how the shingles are made, and enjoyed this one equally thank you again so much!
sincerely,
Reno NV. USA
Levy Thompson Thanks Levy
Such a pleasure listening to a professional
I loved the first video and I loved this one too. Congratulations.
Thanks for taking th he time to pass this knowledge on, really great stuff.
Great instructional video. I'm just about to roof out my Japanese teahouse in cedar shakes and have got some good tips from this video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks that's great..there is also a video on cutting the shingles that also covers other issues.
Thought we hit peak Britishness the second time the kettle went off, then we got to the sudden Spitfire break!!
Marvellous structure , the information is priceless , nicely done 👍. Loved the soundtrack of the kettle and the spitfire , I could smell the wood and the woodsmoke . One year further on , having used the information I'm still smelling the woodsmoke , the kettle was , of course party of the instructions 🤔 .
Excellent follow up to the first video. Smashing!
Hi Harry! Did they finish the shake roof? Great video, very informative. A final video of the structure would be awesome!
Excellent video Harry. I learn so much every time I watch your channel.
I very much enjoyed watching this film, having only just found the film which showed the making of the shingles a couple of days ago. There's something very relaxing about watching other people work. :)
Laying wood shingles is surprisingly relaxing as well as long as you’re working at a leisurely pace.
Exclent demonstration learned the Cape Cod style the first 9 cources closer togther less shingle to the weather this would protect the beam on shake siding and fan out the wall to repell water goving your called kick board on out buildings we would use strapping 3/4 thick and 3 1/2 inches wide we would get from the saw mill we used white cedar clear shingles as neat by Mane has lots of them I will try large Chestnut now that I know your secret ! Thank you very much for this information !!!
Very interesting video nice to see the old skills being used, thanks for sharing Harry, atb john.
John talks alot but I still watched 2 whole videos... I dont even think i will ever do this either, but i know how now! :) Thanks
What a craftsmanship
Loved wood work since school in Dagenham, 48-58, and have been splitting shingles from red boxwood in winter, for kindling, but now at 74 living in the land of OZ, wondering , WHY is he choking the claw hammer? More interesting than a truckload of DVD's
"Choking the hammer" I wonder whether it was the angle of the roof at that point as it kicks up but it might be to have 'less bounce' in the hammer since the baton is bouncing so much. Perhaps if they'd have put small' inter-rafters' between the existing ones they would have less bounce. Just a thought. I work on old French roofs now and then that use planks to put roman tiles on but of course the rafters are usually substantially sized pieces of oak and they don't bounce much.
Great video, and craftsmanship.
I would suggest a more durable solution for the corners, wich is used where I live for a long time. As shown on this roof the shingles on the roofcorners are cut into triangles prone to premature breaking because of weathering. What works better is to taper the last 4-5 shingles lightly from top to bottom so that there is no weak triangle if you arrive at the edge. At the edge of the roof the last shingle should overlap the last shingle coming from the other roofplane. The shingle being overlaped should be cut on its corner acording to the angles of the two roofplanes. The overlapping shingel should alternate every shingle row from one roofplane to the other. I hope I am making sence.
best regards
Bernhard Neumayer Thanks for that good suggestion..certainly makes sense.
Great! It would have been nice to see the finished roof at the end.
I'm curious as to the reason you space the shingles tightly. With perfections and even rough cedar shake we always spaced them 1/8" to 3/16" to prevent cupping. I believe you said it was chestnut? Are the properties different to cedar requiring this tight spacing?
Bravo Again. !!! enjoyed very much such Great Workmanship Harry I enjoy all your videos outstanding job.
Very nicely done. Classic to have a Spitfire fly over these British gentlemen.
Instead of using the artifical DPC soaker if you have access to any birch trees you could use the bark for the same purpose. On sod roofed farm houses in Estonia where my family is from they would use birch bark as the water proof layer between the sod and the wood below. The bark life span is about 30 years I have been told.
idrek1 Thanks...interesting and makes sense given bark canoes.
@@harryrogers A fun fact, the sod, or turf roof was actually mostly there to keep the birch bark in place. And yes, about 30 years or a generation. Back in the old days in Norway, it was a collective thing to do renewal of the roof when next gen took over the farm. Its all a quite good material, but you need some layers, and with correct quality. But, as history has shown, it doesnt work very well around chimneys and difficult angles. Its where you´re gonna find the damages in old buildings like this.
@@yvindmathiassen7617 Thanks
Your videos are always so interesting. Keep up the good work! It is good to have you as a friend in the UK.
a BIG thumps up for HAND/MAN-craft. REALLLLLLLLLLLY Gr8 √√
another excellent production! thanks for sharing!!!
Another entertaining and informative video ,your like a modern day Jack Hargreaves,thank God for RUclips.Keep up the good work Harry..
Terry Bennett Thanks Terry
this is so cool, I wish I could build a sauna like this
Its good to hear more people using the word "Inches".
It's pretty standard in carpentry, at least in Canada, UK, and US.
@@DylanYoung Thank you for tell me this.
All this and a Spitfire fly past as well, it cant get better than that !
Ive been roofing for nearly 40 yrs so my methods for cleaving, prepping and laying are different and faster.....much faster. Its good to see people enjoying new things and using the fruits of there labours. A frosty late autumn dawn spent splitting shakes in the chestnut coppice is the best cure for a restless mind.............
Hey Marcus, At 80 I can appreciate your words and thoughts. To die with a tool in your hands, doing what we enjoy is a grand way to go. May I ask where in the world you're located. Stay safe, Jim
Marcus, I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. But you know what, it's entertaining for guys like us but for different reasons.
You are all awesome! Great video!
SPITFIRE!!! Amazing! We don't see those in the US. I would've had to look too.
😇 Old World Master Craftsman 😇
I Enjoyed This Tutorial. Thank You.
Exactly the information I was looking for
What a labor intensive process.
Great to see most of the materials coming from the woods. 5 years ago, I had to buy Canadian shingles to roof my studio, I think there are now some UK sourced materials available.
Old growth makes such a difference in the finished product. I had 96 yr old cedar that was nice and straight. We downsized a window with new shingles and they cupped really bad. Unless you make your own, it is hard to find anything decent and affordable. What is sad is how many decent logs get turned into firewood.
On the old Cape Cod houses the first 9 courses are very close together raising to protect the main beam cedar shakes last 100 years untreated longer when oiled
Great video. Thank you.
Greetings from Bosnia
In Cape Cod Mass. The first 9 courses from the ground shingle siding two layers on top of each other then up 1/8 inch then upma inch two inches three inches 4 inches to the weather then every 5 to five and ca half inches to the weather this with ceadet or redwood prevents bugs nailed with stainless steel ring shank nails iO used this methoid on my lands in Nova Scotia that has high winds 60 mph or 100 kph for a week at a time this is at the exstream southern tip of Nova Scotia Canada at the end of a 5 km long penisulia the Genetal Forbes Crown Land Grant ! Love the wood roof shingles idea when you cut the trees you would cut them so you eliminate the branches 16 to 19 inches long so you have clear wood no knots ! I used white cedar clear !
If it works on a roof i want to try it on my wall. thanks
Great information and presentation. If you have the time and inclination, could you please explain why the lowest wood tiles do not overhang more? I would think you'd want them hanging over more so as to prevent rain streams from running up under the shingles and constantly wetting the base of the roof. Have a good week, sir.
Gristle Von Raben Yes more overhang if anything...it works fine as is but no harm in having more....certainly not less.
mum's making a spot of tea...good show ol boy...we yanks swing hammers too
very nice work, almost like art
Nice
Saved me
Made me understand my own mower
Thanks, very informative.
That guy timed tea just write didn't even lift a hammer good timing .
Great video, thank you very much!!
Don't understand why the last one was so disliked compared to this one. Im guessing the youtube algorithm showing them it is making them angry because there is no way to say "I don't want to watch that" and they are trying that instead. I've been enjoying this also interessting to see newer materials used with old craft techniques like this
I expect it was also because I interrupted John a lot!! Rgds Harry
Good job Harry
how did I end up here, from guitars to cutting wood? ... I am guess anything made of wood is good... and it rhymes too hehe :)
Very interesting Harry Thanks
Wow great videos look like a lot fun
Thanks for nail info. Can windfall white pines be used to make wall or roof shingles? How about white ash that died from emerald ash borer. Sad to just use for firewood. Great instruction. Thanks so much.
It would be so so so satisfying to build something like this. Then have a BBQ with ya mates under in a drink beers lol
amazing videos! so educative!!!
thank you very much!!!
just wondering what they used in the olden days instead of the plastic?
maybe could one use thick woven linen soaked in wax?
i'd assume they'd use pitch/tar/or resin from the tree(usually pine) to patch up small holes if they couldnt deal with a spot dripping.
John will strangle that hammer soon! You can tell he has been going back and forth from the carving axe. :)
Well done. Thank you.
Good description only thing I do differently is 2 nails same height on either side pre drill holes takes a bit longer
Same as slateing UK is a bit different methods
I wonder how long it would take one person to do that two sided house?
Thank you for sharing this film Harry! Will there be any more videos showing the six (or seven) ridges and how the top is finished off with the cowl? I understand that time is an issue: ie the weather is starting to turn. Many Thanks again. N.
Neil George hi, just to get the definitions fixed, the ridge is the horizontal beam/ plank at the top of the roof, parallel to the ‘wall plates’ running around the bottom of the roof. The beams/ planks from each corner, running up to each end of the ridge, are ‘hip’ rafters. The join at the top, is a right fiddle, normally sorting the men from the boys !
Andy
Hi guys I’ve seen your set up and it looks pretty cool I work the grass field over the hedge of where you are at
Jack do pop over for a cuppa next time you see us. Rgds Harry
When nailing, if you hold the hammer correctly you bend less nails and use less energy driving the nail in...
great job!
superb video
Very nice!
this had some very very good tips thank you very much.
very nice thanks. I don't understand why blunting the point of the nail helps not to split the shingles.
vivanicola it stops it acting like a sharp splitting wedge and the bluntness shatters the fibres in a straight line
So that's why all the pallets I have been taking apart the nails are all blunted or flat on their ends.Interesting.They don't want pallets splitting.I save them and reuse them as well.I'm reusing the pallet slats for flooring.I have just starting learning to use wooden hand tools.I have a hand planer to plane the edges flat and square and a pair of tongue and groove hand planes.
Is there a difference between a "cooking room" and a kitchen?
I'd love to ask John more about his work. Do you know where he is located, and how can I contact him?
is there a film on how the timber frame is made
Hi sorry no, but there is one on us constructing the roof of the roundhouse and on laying the shingles to its roof. Rgds Harry
how did I get here? But I love it
Is there a good book that covers this method of construction?
Why are shakes laid with a 2/3s overlap? It would seem like a waste of shakes, particularly with this structure were complete waterproofness is not essential.
The lowest shingle has no other shingles underneath, and they have thickness, so therefore you make the baddens thicker.
I put my shingles just between two badden, no problem, never fall.
You couldn’t get more British with the British Spitfire lol
Hi there. Would it be at all possible to ask your friend doing the demo if I might contact him. I'm in New forest and having shingle issues.
What does it look like finished?
I am building a roof like this on a goat house and the distance he indicates between batons is misleading. At the 49 second mark he indicates the 5" distance is measured from the top edge of one to the top edge of the next. I made a mistake and used 5" between each baton. Apparently our mistakes cancelled out because what I am doing seems to be what he actually did.
I would be interested to know how he made the closable cowl
Very good.. what type of wood were the shingles made out of?
Stanner Tarn Chestnut...there is a film on making them as well.
No gaps in between shingles ?
I like the tutorial about old fashioned roof construction, but how did they do the nails back then?
Black smiths made them in 2 way I know of, there are some videos here
Forged square nails I'd guess.
good job
Ive been thinking about how wood rots. If wood gets wet and then dry, thats not a big deal as much as one that stays in shade and wet. The sun dries and kills bacteria but the underside of a shingle doesnt get sun. If you burnt the underside of a shake shingle, taking away the bacteria's "food", wouldnt it greatly lengthen the lifespan of a roof?
Almost certainly. That's a method of treating posts too.
No Felt between the roof layers?
Did you mention type of nails and length of nail? Thanks mulch.
Galvanised round head nails are good length depends on your materials.
1-10 rating..."this video goes to eleven"! Thanks