I think it would be cool if u find Bonnie and repair him and instead of him chasing u to kill u he helps u because he is best friends with Freddy and they would team up with u that would be so cool
Random thing I thought of a while ago. They said they gave him claws so he could play the guitar better, which means he didn't always have them. This also means he didn't play the bass, but still was a prominent part of the park, which is clear because of the entire golfing section of the building. Maybe he played the drums before-hand, which would fit his destructive nature of hitting things with force.
This is such an interesting theory! I have one other one, though. That message of "Bonnie was seen exiting his green room..." has me thinking this is actually about Vanny. Maybe because Vanny glitches out, this is reflected on the cameras, and all they can make out is the bunny ears. I wonder if the security guards reported seeing "Bonnie" during Vanny's murders, and the Pizzaplex decommissioned Bonnie as a result.
If we're going with the pre-dlc Bonnie idea, it makes sense to change up the formula. The kid's an actual guest, who's mostly just exploring around during the day and sees the animatronics at their best. Maybe we can even meet n' greet with them, give the other characters a bit to flesh themselves out more to the player. The only problem is the possible other random kid/adult models but you could explain it away with the kid being so engrossed they don't pay attention to the people around them except a faceless tired mom character who guides the kid around, effectively pulling the player away from an area after a while. (the Devs could get to reuse parts of that huge map!) Eventually, we meet Bonnie and somehow end up helping him search for clues because he's realized something's going on (Vanny) and we spend the rest of the night searching with him to find the truth...only to end up at the bad end like Dawko said.
That's a good call and a very good idea! Another solution I'd see for reducing the crowds and needed models is - maybe the kid is a sort of "VIP" guest, be ti through paying more or because he has a family member among the mall staff and he's allowed this one time to come into the mall after closing - but then things go downhill, he gets locked in alone or something?
I love seeing every artist's take on the possible Glamrock Bonnie designs. Would absolutely love to see SteelWool's design and to know what happened to him too.
I've seen a theory that Bonnie was actually the first animatronic to try and save the missing people, but he was caught and had to be disassembled. I personally like that theory.
or they thought hmmm if there is no bonnie then we can easily lure kids by pretending to be bonnie because they way they got around it before is he ether was bonnie or not and considering what happened to him I feel as tho not even a controlled shock could motivate someone and also probably management would be made aware if they made a new springlock suit so just a theory a stupid theory
@Arielle Wasiak i think monty was with glam bonnie when he got decommisioned by vanny and he blames himself for not saving him and is really aggressive against anything new.
@@sebastiangibson9671 my theory is that management programmed him to do that and programmed Monty to destroy him (without security knowing so that they wouldn't leak that information) so they could disassociate themselves with a rabbit / bunny because of the child murders involving spring bonnie , and since they became a big company they knew that the bonnie animatronic could be a concern to some people.
@@grandiewandie but theres some flaws to it too so far monty could have been found at the day on his room with shattered hands because punching or killing an animatronic with no upgrades at the time is no easy task even the security bots took a long time and there best to kill freddy in that vanny ending and after all those shattering task freddy's body is still mostly intact it looks like some one put a bumb on his chest and blow it up.
Two things. About the design of Bonnie, the picture in the frame has a big star on his left eye. About the lore, the note said that he was out of commission, meaning the staff found him but he was to damaged to be salvaged.
another thing to note is that Monty's feet are purple. The game did say they upgraded Monty after Bonnie "disappeared"... I think certain parts were reused in Monty that were originally Bonnie's. That's why Monty can jump so far. Rabbit's hop around. Monty got them (un)lucky rabbit feet
I dunno, if you search it up, gators can jump pretty high too, I honestly wouldn't be surprised, but if that's the case, why wouldn't Bonnie's jump be showcased in his upgrades blueprint?
His wrists and eyelids are also purple. I think all animatronics can jump so far if they motivated enough since endos are the same and they supposedly have terminator-like strength. (Ignoring how Chica patheticaly lost to a 10 y.o. child)
I also believe that originally you were taking monty's legs. All the other parts missing from the scrapped animatronics were actually the ones used for freddy, all except monty's. Also, when you claim his claws after defeating him, you head over to his legs and then claim the claws, which is a little weird. There is also the fact that there is an unused texture for a scrapped freddy that resembles one from one of the comics. except that the texture placement for monty's parts wouldn't work for claws, but would for legs in a proper scrapped freddy model. So we know originally you were supposed to take his legs and that would make sense with this bonnie theory in mind.
While everyone talks about if Monty took him out or not, I'd like to theorise what was his place in the group. Judging by the small stage and layout of Bonnie bowl, I think it's safe to asume that Bonnie was meant to appeal to the everyman. The everyman is a term used mostly for characters who pretty much anyone can identify with. One example of this would be how in Goofy's old cartoons was meant to appeal to the everyday grown up folks while still being cartoons for kids. He could fit in to a wide variety of roles, humour and situations. Or how most people watching Spongebob, really appreciate and sympathise with Squidward later in life. (Seasons 1 to 3 were and always will be the best.) This also shows another important factor about the everyman. They're always secondary to the main character. This fits in with Bonnie, being a secondary character for Freddy whi is the star of the show. As for why I think his attraction show's that his main appeal was being the everyman for grown ups to enjoy, he's a lot more formal on the animation for his attraction compared to the 'radical 80s' vibe everyone else has. Colours in the attraction are also only really flashy in the arcade area. Some may wonder why there's an arcade section there when there's already a lot more arcade areas in the Pizzaplex but that boils down to child safety. The parents come her so that they can relax and bowl but if they have kids, they can play in the arcade and be close enough for the adults to supervise and keep an eye on them. Bonnie's stage is also pretty small, hinting that he would have performed here solo. Most likely he would have played simple guitar or base songs while people played bowling or just be sitting down enjoying some food. His act could have even involed talking or making a few light humoured jokes with paying customers. Simple but effective and provides a good place to relax. The Scooby Doo styled cartoons also show that Bonnie was extremely laid back and took pertty much everything in his stride. That style of personality and performance often appeals more with grown ups. So it's easy to imagine him as the laid back uncle of the group. But hey. That's just a therory. A GAME THE-*Chokes* Please tell me what you guys think. :)
Just had a thought, about Monty being hacked: Before he was originally hacked to destroy Bonnie, what if Monty had no intentions of moving up the ranks at all? What if his violent behaviour in the game was a change in his personality made by Vanny to cover up and almost excuse the fact he destroyed Bonnie. If he has anger issues and a desire to become leader, it wouldn't seem out of the ordinary so the company wouldn't suspect that a third party is tampering with the AI
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. I think though it’s only speculation, it’s possible that could be some of the lore behind it later on, if they ever decide to throw us a bone on his story that is.
I really really hope for a Glamrock Bonnie DLC. It would be great to have an official appearance of him, getting to see him in person and maybe even have him help us.
6:09 ...did we forget that Bonnie, in all the other games, was always the most aggressive character? Maybe his aggressive program was passed onto Monty. It would explain why Monty's so angry and aggressive now. Maybe he wasn't always like this.
TBH, the "Bonnie's always the most aggressive" one doesn't have much viability IMO. Classic/Withered: He's possessed by a dead child. That's the dead child, not him. Toy: The toys were all tampered with. Nightmare: ALL the Nightmares are aggressive. Plus, see Glamrock Freddy. He's not like his counterparts in those regards. Why can't Glamrock Bonnie be different to his counterparts too?
@@InfiniteThePhantomJackal Some characters, if they changed with respect to their counterparts. Freddy: From being a child trapped inside an animatronic, still frightened by what happened. Glamrock Freddy: To being an animatronic (possibly possessed) with the eagerness to help a child. Chica: From being a murdered children. Glamrock Chica: To an animatronic controlled by a virus and with eating problems.
Hm. In all honesty, there are several problems with positing Monty as the culprit. The first, bluntly, is that Monty is about as subtle as a stick of dynamite. If he'd decommissioned Bonnie, Bonnie wouldn't have gone missing -- he'd have been spread all over Monty's Gator Golf in small pieces. The second is Monty's claws. Those claws were _not_ part of Monty's initial design -- they were added so that he could play bass guitar. This means that Bonnie, the previous bass player, had those claws as part of _his_ initial design. That would give Bonnie a major advantage in a battle between the two of them. Thirdly, look at the messages regarding Monty's behavior: He often goes to the catwalks over his golf course, staying up there so long that he's been hit by the Hole-In-One Hurricane before. After performances, he goes on rampages -- _under_ the mall. The message notes that he's breaking through fences down there. We only see him do that when he's looking for Gregory. All put together, this seems to indicate that Monty is _looking for Bonnie_ . He regularly gets a bird's-eye view of the last place Bonnie was seen, and he goes smashing through security gates under the PizzaPlex. If this is true, then Monty's battering of his green room makes sense -- because _he doesn't feel it's really his_ . He didn't earn the bass position, he wasn't picked because he was special or a fan favorite -- he was picked because he was available, because Bonnie went missing. However much he wants to be the star, he wants to be the star because he's good and popular -- not because there's nobody else.
@@juliane.mfarias9285 Monty's greed is a golf minigame that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area, and it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie's. All you have for "evidence" is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
look closely at bruntrap's design. You can see an endo skeleton that defiantly wouldn't have been used in the past. Keep in mind that burntrap's endo would have been a spinglock suit, but the endo looks more advanced and brand new. Also vanny has a button to 'dissemble' other animatronics by staff bots. And guess who last saw Bonnie? The staff bots
That's wrong. So Bonnie's endo got someone skin Inside? It's just a redesign man. And plus the staff bots were NOT the last to see Bonnie it was the camera what are you on about?
What if Bonnie got dismantled in Monty's golf and Monty hid and watched in horror as the staff bots dismantled Bonnie then he followed them and grabbed Bonnie's glasses and guitar (maybe guitar) in an attempt to honor Bonnie's memory by having his equipment live past his life
Vanny being the actual culprit makes more sense to me, albeit w/ different explanation. We know Afton's obsession w/ rabbits; it's possible that bonnie was actually the first to be hacked and was to be his vessel. We know they don't normally leave their room after hours, so bonnie going to the golf course for no apparent reason is already strange. We also know that they can detect system tampering to an extent from the opening sequence. From the gameplay, we know that the animatronics can't hurt each other (Freddy is never attacked), BUT Vanny needs a signal-interfering suit to avoid being seen, which may indicate that they have some kind of security programming that prevents them from hurting each other, but react violently to any unregistered individual (Gregory and Vanny BUT NOT Vanessa; Vanessa is a registered staff, but not her alter ego). Possibly Monty detected hacked bonnie and attacked him.
Well it still doesn't make sense that Vanny is never attacked by the animatronics. This is a solid theory though. Monty must have detected Afton's malware within Bonnie, and it would be in line with his character to solve the problem with violence. Maybe the reason he's trashing his green room is because he also misses Bonnie. He just handles his emotions by raging in his room. I think this cause they don't initially seem to be hacked until a bit later on.
@@tylajon3126 Vanny wears a signal interfering device in her outfit which makes the animatronics unable to see her (Freddy's statements confirm this). This is why the player's screen glitches when she's near. Afton technically made Vanessa buy/wear that outfit, so he's probably learning from his mistake w/ bonnie and decided to include said device. Everything clicks into place
A major issue with the "Monty destroyed Bonnie" theory is that whatever external damage he could cause wouldn't cause the company to rebrand; they would just make a new Bonnie and carry on like nothing happened. There are several events/messages supporting this: - Monty Mischief message - Ironically Monty himself is the one proving that damage isn't enough to truly take an animatronic out of the game; this message talks about how Monty suffered heavy damage in the past from the Hurricane bucket tipping over and required emergency repairs. - SAFETY CHECK message - if Chica were to suffer damage from the compactor she would just get replacement part, with the cost being deducted from the culprit's paycheck. - The Good Ending (kitchen door escape): the newspaper at the end of the credits shows that Chica, Roxy and Monty all got fully repaired, despite their tremendous injuries. - While Freddy is in the Parts & Service room Vanessa tells him how they can just slaps his casing on a new endo and replace him. - If you bring Freddy to the Endo room he will have a philosophical break down, wondering if he is actually the first and only Freddy or if he is mass produced and there were others before him. Imo whatever caused Bonnie to disappear couldn't have been physical damage. The only two possible explanations I can think of is that either his public image got tarnished (maybe due to the Springtrap murders or some more recent events), forcing the company to move away from Bonnie OR a higher-up just out of the blue ordered him to be replaced (maybe the same higher-up who recommended Vanessa for the Chief Security Officer position, despite her lack of experience?). Also, I'd argue that Monty actually doesn't even want to be a part of the main band; Monty Mischief mentions how he keeps skipping public performances, preferring to hide away on the catwalks above his golf course AND all the evidence for a desire to be a star was created by other people; Monty didn't make the Golf Arcade game therefore he wasn't the one to put Freddy in the trash. He wasn't the one to make the creative decision to promote him, that was the management of the pizzaplex.
I really like how much effort you put into this comment, and now, reading it, I do see your point. They indeed do have alot of Endoskeletons, so just assuming they didn't have another animatronic costume, they would have had it easy to just remake it, especially when blueprints were most likely left behind. Your other theories about what alse had happened to him are also interesting!
I personally think the “testing” part in parts and service is there to reveal what Fazbear Entertainment has done, create a sentient AI. The then upload the AI into Endoskeletons and do horrible experiments on them. They do this so they can get the perfect traits for their characters. But sometimes it can go bad like, “Chica needs to eat” but the way that the Chica Endoskeleton interprets it is to eat and don’t stop. Similar things happen to the other animatronics. Monty’s too aggressive, Roxy’s too self absorbed, Freddy’s too nice, and Sun and Moon are overprotective-neat-freaks. When they force character traits onto the Endoskeletons it causes them to over emulate the traits. So when Bonnie was destroyed and taken for Afton parts or whatever they couldn’t just slap his casing on a new Endoskeleton, because they would have to recreate all his character traits. I also think when Vanessa says that to Freddy it was an empty threat, just to scare him into behaving. It obviously doesn’t work because his trait is to be nice as possible even at his own risk. I also think that this explains why the Endoskeletons freeze when you look at them, they’re afraid of you hurting them. That’s also why they attack when you don’t look. They want revenge on humans because humans hurt them. They don’t attack when they have casings and are let loose in the Pizzaplex because they think of it as a reward for their suffering. That’s why they don’t want to “have they’re casings thrown on another Endoskeleton” because it mean back to the basement or decommissioning.
Thing is, nothing in FNAF is a coincidence. They wouldn't just put Bonnie's last seen location Monty Golf with the same exact message saying "Missing" as it's title for no reason. Albeit I do believe that there's more to Bonnie's disappearance than just Monty, but there's simply no way that Monty wouldn't have had anything to do with it, just that there's more to this than meets the eye. As for the Gator Golf arcade, I'm pretty sure that's just an easter egg. There's a lot of easter eggs in the game, with Balloon World and the security offices in Princess Quest II, etc. Obviously Fazbear Entertainment wouldn't want to have kids see their potentially favorite animatronic, Glamrock Freddy, be thrown in the trash. FNAF has a LOT of Easter Eggs for a reason. So just because Monty didn't make the arcade doesn't mean that the theory is disproven, it's an easter egg.
Honestly, I like the idea of Vanny manipulating Monty to help her, telling him how getting Bonnie out of the way would benefit both of them. Monty would get the spotlight as the bass player and Vanny gets parts for Afton. Afterwards, Bonnie's endoskeleton is left behind in parts and service, not in a good enough shape to get help, not broken enough to be thrown away. Stuck there in place, watching as people pass by, unable to do anything. But that's just a theory, a game theory-
@@aerobridge_ Yet the model contains the newer endoskeletons, indicating that parts were swapped out and replaced - probably because the original parts were fucked up beyond repair leaving Afton immobile.
I’d like to think that Monty actually liked Bonnie, and he’s actually destroying his room because he’s upset that Bonnie is gone, and he’s having trouble understanding what made him do it because he can’t see Vanny. But, everything seems to be leading to Monty being super cruel and destructive.
Aww, i really like this idea. I believe it was vanny/glitch because monty doesnt usually hang out in monty golf, i think he was in his room and then when he went to monty golf he saw bonnie so people might have blamed him 🤷 i like to think that bonnie would teach monty how to play guitar and now he's trying his best to keep a part of bonnie alive by playing 🥺 thats just a random idea because we dont know what actually happened so i like to fill bits in (and part of this is is more of a headcannon then theory but... Still 😅)
8:30 - With what Dawko says, I'll re-iterate what I keep saying everywhere, Freddy IS hacked, with the GlitchTrap virus. The one difference between Freddy who remains friendly and the others who turn hostile is Freddy's system crash right at the beginning. There's a line that nobody seems to pay attention to in their theories, after his crash, Freddy reboots into Safe Mode. Safe mode is a bootup mode available in virtually all modern operating systems and I'm assuming it's also included in the operating system the animatronics use (probably some off the shelf free system like Linux or something). What Safe Mode does is limit what processes are loaded during startup to make troubleshooting problems, including malware, easier. Most malware will attach itself to either a running process (such as a computer virus) or will be a process of its own (eg a Trojan Horse), but they don't just magically run, they have to be started up and that usually happens in the startup process - unless a safe mode startup is used. That's the real reason Freddy's not hostile, the malware is in him but inactive. However, during limited times, such as when upgrading/repairing him, the virus may activate and those are the rare times when you can get a Freddy jumpscare. As for the Monty did it theory, I think that's a little too obvious. I think Vanny either lured Bonnie into Monty Golf to off him there or did the job somewhere else and fudged the logs of Bonnie's whereabouts to say Monty Golf even though Bonnie was really never there. In fact, I think that's exactly what happened, and Bonnie was really in Roxy Raceway, and found something here he shouldn't have and was taken out by Vanny to hide what she was doing below Roxy Raceway. What's below Roxy Raceway? Vanny's big, bad secret she doesn't want anyone to know about. So if Bonnie disappears and anyone from corporate looks into it, a log showing Binnie's last known location as Roxy Raceway would draw too much attention to there and risk Vanny's plans. So she used her hacked access to change the logs to show Monty Golf instead of Roxy Raceway. If anyone investigates, unless they're more diligent then is typical of Fazbear employees, they'll just follow the obvious trail of logs to Monty Golf, the possible motives Monty could have for offing Bonnie, and the fact that Monty obviously benefited from it to blame Monty. In which case they'd probably decommission him and replace him with another animatronic on base and rebrand Monty Golf after the new animatronic. Meanwhile, Vanny's actions beneath Roxy Raceway remain undetected.
I don’t think Monty was always this aggressive. He might have felt left out and when Vanny corrupted him it mad him angry and jealous and Bonnie, not knowing this, went to go talk to Monty about how he was feeling and Monty destroyed him and his parts were used to rebuild William.
Real talk though, if Bonnie was ever brought back and became a part of the band again, he'd kill on the drums and synth. Imagine him playing the drums while sporadically adding synths and just goes back and forth.
@@melinatedthinka8210 That's a fair point that I oddly thought of too. Perhaps prior to Bonnie's decommissioning, Monty WAS the drummer? And afterwards, the company felt like it wasn't necessary to keep them around, so the prospect of an "animatronic playing the drums" was scrapped entirely? And if he were to return? Hypothetically, I personally think Bonnie wouldn't risk getting on Monty's bad side (or at least to keep the peace in the band), he lets him keep the bass. But that's just a quick thought off the top of my head.
I've always sort of liked the idea that it's Vanny's whisperings that convinced Monty to do it. Telling him how unloved and forgotten he is compared to THEM. That if only he could be on that stage, the kids would love him too. All it would take is for Bonnie to disapear. No one would ever know what happened, and he'd finally get his chance in the spotlight... and then she lures Bonnie to Monty, and watches the carnage unfold. Once Bonnie is destroyed, she takes the parts away, and uses them to repair burntrap. All that's left is the glasses Monty stole, and no one will even know what went down but Vanny.
Yeah, I've been leaning towards this type of idea myself too. Perhaps Vanny also outright hacked him and tampered with his personality to some degree, causing him to become highly aggressive.
I think it’d be cool to see any sort of prequel, seeing a non-hostile Glamrock Chica or Roxanne, hell maybe even a different side to Freddy would be really cool. While Bonnie has never been a character I particularly liked, I would like to know what happened to him and I agree a DLC would be a great way to show what went down. My only trouble is that I still think the game needs improvements and will need improvements for a while, so I don’t think the DLC is coming anytime soon. Regardless of what steel wool does with the DLC, I hope Vanny actually does something and is an actual active threat, unlike in the main game.
My theory's: •I think the reason Monty's green room is under construction is because it used to be Bonnie's and they were remodeling it to be Monty's •The non hostile Endo has what looks like Bonnie's feet •Maybe Bonnie's parts were used to fix Monty's legs and that's why he can super jump like a rabbit.
If it was Bonnie's room and is not completely refurbished, then it would make sense for someone with a big hatred for Bonnie, to smash everything that belonged to him.
@@hellhound78 sorry to bust your bubble but going into montys room there’s just his plushies and stuff BUT to inflate your balloon it may have been removed and montys placed into there
here's a slight discrepancy: monty only got destructive AFTER he was fitted with the claws to play the bass, so there would be no explanation for him to want to destroy bonnie.
@@DahHourglass yeah he did. Notice that the entire hand is refered to as a claw in the game by replacing Freddy's entire hands and not just his fingers.
Personally I don't think it was Monty. Remember two things here: firstly, in the Vanny ending it takes a whole swarm of bots to disassemble Freddy, so I don't think a lone animatronic would have the strength... without a special upgrade. Which leads me to the 2nd thing: Monty didn't have the claw upgrade until after Bonnie disappeared. In fact (now, I could be totally wrong here. There might be some voice line I'm not remembering, so tell me if that's the case), I don't believe Bonnie was ever part of the band/one of the main animatronics. Think back to that one piece of artwork in Bonnie Bowl, where he's wearing a plain outfit and doesn't have any face decorations or jewellery or anything like that. We never see anything like that in any of the other animatronics games. Freddy has a space helmet in Fazer Blast, and Roxy has a different outfit and sunglasses in Roxy Raceway, but their physical appearance doesn't change. And what about the tiny stage in the ice cream parlour? That hardly seems like something a main member of the band would use. Not only is it super small, but it's pretty accessible. But anyway, that's just my theory. Tell me if I got any information wrong.
I think its more of a combo of the two Monty getting rid of Bonnie and Vanny possibly using Bonnie's parts to repair Afton. Its been shown that Vanny can control the animatronics so who's to say that she didn't feed into Monty's jealously and convinced him to destroy Bonnie, thus allowing her to use his parts?
A couple of questions for the theorists: 1. What was Monty's role before Bonnie went missing? Seems like he already existed since they only had to do updates. 2. Why did it take so long for Bonnie to walk around the Pizzaplex? 3. Why the heck would they have Mr. Hippo play a triangle of all instruments? I mean, all instruments are dope but the Triangle feels a little less rock. They talk about the animatronics' personalities (Roxy being competitive, Chica being a culinarian 😉) like they weren't *programmed* to be that way. If Vanny can hack them to be murderous, surely someone could lower the aggression factor on Monty, no?
1. I think that maybe they just thought golf would be a nice attraction but realized that it should have a theme and character/animatronic, sorta like the Daycare Attendant or the S.T.A.F.F Bot in Fazer Blast, they aren't a part of the band but still represent specific attractions and help guests have a fun time. 2. Maybe Bonnie's just a REALLY slow walker, or decided to spent quite a bit of time in specific locations before moving on to another 3. Considering how much personality all the animatromics have there's a none 0 chance that they gave Mr Hippo his signature 'old grandpa telling overly long stories' persona, and thus Mr Hippo would be acting like he's too frail and slow to play anything else. I'll be honest though, that theory isn't very good. It's more likely he plays the triangle because it's funny.
about number 2 i think bonnie was helping a kid to get out just like freddy and gregory, the message even said bonnie went to the east arcade, why would bonnie go to to west arcade and take a long time ( the levels and the dj mm) then bonnie entered monty golf, why would bonnie go there 1: bonnie was helping a kid get the faz cam 2: someone lured bonnie there : edit : the ending with gregory sleeping in a box we see on the newspaper missing kids, on the left bottom i think there a kid that has the same hair design as gregory, why would be kids be missing and why so many missing? The pizzaplex is like a mall lots kids go there, vanny either killed them or an animatronic did.
Monty was probably a drum player hints his strength but also Bonnie moving slow was probably him minding his own business he didn’t need to going quickly
i don't think i came up with this theory but- maybe there was another missing kid who tried to use bonnie to escape one night, so the same way gregory might leave freddy somewhere for a while to not waste his battery, this kid only used bonnie to get from one location to the next when they needed to be stealthy. if steel wool does decide to do a prequel dlc this would make a cool concept for it i think :D
No-one's talked about Burntrap's organic parts, particularly the skull. As we can see on Burntrap's design, his head has a full set of teeth. However, if you look back to fnaf 3, then there is a easter egg screenshot that shows William's organic head inside of Springtrap. I bring this up, because Williams original head only had a few teeth left in it. So I'm thinking that for Burntrap, Vanny kidnapped one of the employees (we know that people go missing, and it definitely looks like the head of an adult that has been used here), and used them as spare parts to help repair William. Edit: Some people are saying that this theory is stupid, and some think it could be possible. Also, why would there still be flesh on burn traps head if it was Williams original? Flesh burns at a much lower temperature than bone does. Surely, if it was Williams original, then there would just be a burnt skull.
I think just from the tapes of vanny and her therapist. It could be the missing therapist.. cause they say in the tapes that they were missing or found dead O_O. Vanny maybe used body parts of the missing therapists.
Yeeesh! Makes enough sense too considering Springtrap should've been turned to ash at the end of fnaf 6. There shouldn't be anything organic left in him except bone maybe. They probably used another corpse for all that and had scraps of Bonnie to stitch it all together
@@frozarburst6350 Yeah, also I remember in the tape that it was mentioned that the found dead body of the therapist was found mangled "like a machine had torn it up". COULD THIS BE THE FAILED ATTEMPTS TO CREATE AFTON.. :O
Yeah, I think the number 2 theory might be happening where bonnie need our help to repair him, considering that steel wool had just shown us the ruin dlc where the pizzaplex had been completely withered and this means that this take place in the future after the Afton ending where the whole pizzaplex burned down and that's why it become demolished in the poster. I'm really hoping for glamrock bonnie to shine and be the player's guardian to help.
I feel like this should be mentioned, as it’s some more potential evidence that Monty maybe didn’t do it, is that we never see a normal night in the pizzaplex, and from what we know, the glam rocks finish up for the day, and then go to their green rooms and usually stay there (the reason why they are out in the game being because Gregory is there), and it would also keep up the potential that vanny maybe was the culprit here, as from the vanny ending, we see that vanny wouldn’t even NEED Monty to destroy bonnie, as she uses the staff bots to absolutely MAUL Freddy in the vanny ending, but this is just something I saw at one point, definitely possible though, this is FNaF after all, the lore of this game is so comically complicated that it’s got matpat screaming “LORE” at a knocked over trash can for gods sake
Mongomery didn't had his claws before, so he was probably weaker before, but i think it makes sense that bonnie tried to destroy him, because if it was monty, wouldn't the staff decomission monty AND fix bonnie? They can perfectly do that, they only decommission animatronics when they're gone or ''betrayed them'' (like how freddy left).
@@jackoxy9860 Hmmmm, yea, that is true, plus Bonnie in a lot of games is the most aggressive animatronic in terms of how many times he attempts to attack, though, correction on one bit, the staff bots didn’t attack Freddy because he went against them, it was because vanny used that device to order them to, the same one that Gregory uses against her in the vanny ending… granted, Freddy use to be pretty damn aggressive in previous games (Funtime freddy in general weather it be normal, molten, or count the ways all being GREAT examples of that) so who can say at the end of the day, we haven’t seen glamrock Bonnie after all… yet at least
@Pinkpony4 What if not a lot of people loved Bonnie? Bonnie's an old character while Monty is the new kid in town. People would talk about him more. Sure nostalgia exists but you'd get bored and want to see the new stuff. More people only love Bonnie now because he's gone. I have what I think is a really good example. Idk if you play Minecraft but in the early days, there was this type of villager called the nitwit. No one carded about them. Not until they were removed. Then people say they miss the nitwit and wants them back. But once they were added back in around 2019, everyone regretted it and find them annoying. Me included admittedly. People only cared about the nitwit when they were gone.
I have seen a lot of theories and most of them seem to point at Monty being the one to blame for his disappearance. It's pretty much implied in the clues the game gives us, but I really don't want to jump into a conclusion after having everything organized and probably more info. Though, I hate how people just straight up hate Monty because he is implied to be the reason why there's not a rabbit in the PizzaPlex. My only argument could be that Glam Bonnie's disappearance might have been upset to a lot of people because it made Glam Freddy upset. Also, THAT DESIGN LOOKS SO COOL, I love it!!
I think Vanny did it, not Monty. If Monty wanted to be the main star, he would have lured Freddy, not Bonnie. besides, Vanny knew the disassemble button would work somehow right? not just on humans, but robots as well. I think Bonnie was the least subject before Glitchtrap in Vanessa's mind tried it on her therapists. Besides Monty was already part of the cast, or else why would he have a golf area before Bonnie was decommissioned? also, one more bit of evidence that it wasn't Monty. In that final report, we don't see it call out Monty leaving his green room, now do we? otherwise it would start off with "Monty is not in his green room." I do want the prequel DLC with Bonnie, but Monty won't kill him, Vanny will.
I think Monty is being used as a scapegoat here, I am def in the mindset with Vanny's disassemble button and Bonnie being the test run for the virus. Monty kind of gets what he wants , but I don't think he had a part in Bonnies disappearance.
@@ripHaHaYes (this is a repost from someone else’s reply so credits to Don Arlem) Monty’s greed is a golf mini game that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area. And it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie’s. All you have for “evidence” is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
@@ripHaHaYes (this is a repost from someone else’s reply so credits to Don Arlem) Monty’s greed is a golf mini game that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area. And it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie’s. All you have for “evidence” is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
Controlling Bonnie as a prequel would be interesting, and it would be cool if the timestamps from that fazwatch message actually matches up as you play
I'd like to write some more about Glamrock Bonnie here that has been in the back of my mind for days. 1. In Fury's Rage,there is a FNAF 6 level,and now we know that it was hinting at the FNAF 6 location returning in SB. But,in the FNAF 6 level we can see a graffiti saying "Bonnie was here". I don't really know what could it mean,but maybe Bonnie was brought down to the FNAF 6 location under the Pizzaplex,just like Freddy,as he says that he's been there before. But for some reason Bonnie didn't make it out. 2. In Freddy And Friends On Tour,Bonnie always acts weird. He doesn't say anything, he doesn't react to anything,and when it's his time to speak the screen just glitches. But the most important thing is that if you look closely,you can notice that Bonnie is always walking east. And we know from the SB message that Bonnie went to the east arcade before entering Monty Golf. In the second episode of the cartoon,when Bonnie is walking again,east,the screen glitches and it shows a picture of the broken Monty. Bonnie going east and after that entering Monty Golf. That cannot be a coincidence. 3. In one of the trailers,Monty says: "You will do as i say! You will bring me what i want! And if you fail me,you will,both of you,burn!" But we never actually hear that in the game. I wonder why was it cut,and if it has something to do with Bonnie,and Monty wanting to be the most popular. I hope you will see this Dawko!
I think Monty wasn't behind Bonnie's disapearance. Monty only began destroying things, when he was given his new claws, as stated by one of the logs. And well, the only reason he got the claws in the first place, was to play the bass because he was replacing Bonnie, meaning he began his violent spree *after* Bonnie dissapeared. Many people seem to miss this fact.
This! And the fact that Monty never wanted to be in the spotlight anyways. They mentioned that Monty never attends practice, and instead goes to his golf, which implies that he doesn’t like his position in the band and just wants to play some golf. Which completely contradicts the claim that Monty destroyed Bonnie to be popular. I think the DLC will show the reason for Bonnie’s disappearance.
@@chrisa.4292 Im somehow suprised that they do practices. I alwats thought that they just were added data on the songs that were recorded for them and just follow it.
I personally don't think Monty killed Bonnie, it's ... very easy, very predictable. It's "Foxy did the bite of 1987" all over again. Most likely, Steel Wool will give us a last-second plot twist, leaving Monty as innocent or, at the very least, an indirect culprit.
Now here’s what I think: I think yeah, it’s going to be someone else, but Monty still feels like he is going to be a jerk in the end, still trying to get the spotlight.
Personally, yes it's predictable, but they could delve into the why in a much more deeper way about how Monty WANTED to be in the spotlight, how he has always wanted to be number one Yes, it can be predictable, but why is being predictable a bad thing if it's still good and there are elements within the predictable thing that are still surprising?
Here’s a theory: the endoskeleton in parts in services that stands in the corner malfunctioning is Glamrock Bonnie’s? Maybe Monty was only able to destroy the casing rather than the full endo as well. Maybe the endoskeleton was saved for a future revamped Glamrock Bonnie return.
I feel like the prequel DLC you described would likely explain Bonnie's movements described in the MISSING message. I think it would be very cool to see what happened in between the points mentioned in the message.
Another theory I saw is that Bonnie was Afton's beta test. He hasn't controlled the animatronics like this before, functioning as a virus. So he took over bonnie and was controlling him to test things out and in the process, Bonnie became withered and broken down (the same way the other ones are throughout the night when they appear to be under that control). The erratic behavior and decomposition lead to him being decommissioned. I also wonder if Bonnie may have been being used to get kids. There were several children missing already and if fazbear entertainment found out Bonnie was responsible for them (Or even a hint that a bunny is luring the kids away), they may have decommissioned him. It would also explain why they're trying to remove any remaining sign of him.
I like this theory, because if Monty disassembled Bonnie to become popular, why wouldn't he disassemble Freddy instead? And additionally, if the staff found out that Monty had destroyed Bonnie, they would probably decommission Monty due to aggression.
Gonna be honest, I feel like a DLC including more of the scrapped story would be great, it would help out the game story wise and would make things less confusing for the player, or just have that as a free DLC/update with a prequel DLC afterwards
Love all the theories thrown around Monty! which reminds me, wasn't there a note that specifies how Monty started being aggressive after receiving the claws upgrade, which is meant to enable him to play the bass? I figure he was less dangerous before that. Then again there are no notes regarding him prior to having his claws. I think.
Yeah, so there are no notes referring to Monty before the claw upgrade. I think he may have had claws before, but not ones that he could play bass with. Like I imagine that he had claws, but they were super flimsy and only existed for cosmetic reasons. And then when he became bassist he got new ones that are stronger.
I honestly think that if it WAS Monty who destroyed Bonnie, it was by the command of Vanessa. There's a lot of things that just don't add up for me like Monty's destructive claws not being added till AFTER being promoted to bass-player, the fact that they so happened to promote Monty rather than destroy him since he's so aggressive and dangerous and destroyed an already popular character, and the fact that Monty Golf being the last place Bonnie was seen just seems a little TOO obvious. I have no doubt that Monty may be the jealous type, especially of Freddy, but I don't think he in his right mind would do something so stupid that could result in him being decommissioned. I still think Vanny was behind it somehow. I think Bonnie made a discovery and knew too much, or he was uncontrollable, and she just took him out of the picture.
It's interesting to say the least, it would be awesome to have a dlc dedicated to Bonnie, also I noticed that in Monty's boss battle he tends to jump really high and land near you, do you think that might be Bonnie's special upgrade?
As much as I wanna know what happened to Bonnie, I’m more curious to know abt Foxy. We have SOME details and implications for Bonny-mentions in the actual game, Easter eggs, etc. We don’t get anything on Foxy other than the acknowledgment that he has existed through Pirates Cove stuff.
Fun fact: Vanny's secret hideout has a door, which you can't open but with cheats when you go through it, it leads to Bonnie's Bowl. Let me know your theories.
I think why Monty is so aggressive is that he actually feels guilt about killing Bonnie… almost like a type of PTSD. The guilt is eating him up therefore he lashed out to avoid resolving the guilt.
I don't understand how everyone is missing this. The ending shows Afton or Glitch Trap emerging wearing a burned bunny animatronic. That's Glam Rock Bonnie. He was using Vanny to hack the systems and the animatronics so he could take over and resurrect himself. I think Freddy is likely Henry, that's why he says he misses Bonnie like that when he sees his closed stage. He's lamenting the fact that Afton and he were once friends and it all started with them in Freddy and Bonnie costumes entertaining kids. He misses his friend and is upset he's turned into the monster he is now. Monty, like you said, has a personality but he's being screwed with and controlled by Afton and Vanny. Just like Foxy crying in her room. Afton is driving them crazy by what he's doing to them and the people that run the company are just trying to figure out what's happening and rolling with the punches of losing animatronics.
@@xI-MIKE-Ix in the golf mini game it shows monty's true desire he wants to be the band leader because freddy is in the trash and monty was the most aggresive plus bonnie went into monty's golf and never was seen and also they each have their own personalities they can have guilt and jealousy
@@1untamedbrain Burn Trap is literally using the Glamrock Bonnie parts. Vanny probably gave him the virus and lured him out. Or something like that. I also don’t understand why people don’t get it
11:28 When I saw this endoskeleton while playing the game, I had the exact same theory. It's an active endo, who does moves that look like performance moves, and he seems happy and all, and Bonnie looks like a happy guy
My theory: looking back at the Freddy and friends episodes, you can see that in one episode whenever it cuts to Bonnie, a glitch is formed. People have tied these glitches to glitch trap by re-arranging the glitches into a picture. So, it seems glitchtrap has something to do with either the Freddy and friends episodes- OR he is the reason Bonnie is missing, and this is steal wools way of hinting it towards us.
But Bonnie went Missing. They never said he was destroyed they said he went missing in the first note. Besides why would Monty want to take Bonnies place for fame if he skipped performances? For someone who wants fame wouldn’t you want to attend them? And also, he didn’t have the claws till after Bonnie was gone, meaning he didn’t really have the strength he does now. I like to think that he was investigating the little kids disappearances since at one of the locations he went to there Was a fire exit, aka: an escape route one Freddy suggests. Bonnie also the most aggressive one in the games so if anyone were to be the first to investigate into it, it’d be him. He just got caught up and things and then destroyed by Vanny and put his parts into the big mold thing at the end
I hope if the DLC does have a bad ending it actually means something. I just hope it’s not entirely depressing and instead whatever happens genuinely impacts the story overall.
Damn, this is pretty cool. Your theory makes so much sense and you explained all your reasoning to make alot of connections. They need to make a DLC off of your theory!
I think people keep missing that the reason freddy wasnt taken over was because he was booted up in safe mode and thus cut of from the main network, he even says as much in the opening cutscene.
My theory: Glamrock Bonnie was a benevolent AI like Freddy, and he tried to either save someone from Vanny or got suspicious of the strange activity. He went to investigate (or got lured) to Gator Golf, where he fell for a trap and got torn apart so badly he couldn't be rebuilt. Honestly, I wanna play as one of the animatronics in a DLC
Is no one gonna talk about how it took Bonnie 2hrs & 16 min to leave his room and go to the East Arcade... And then another 1hr 32min to enter Monty Golf. In total 3hrs 48min just to go some place that took Gregory like 5 - 10 min just to get there...
@@Overlordd_d Eh, saying he was possessed is a stretch. For one, Ennard and Molten Freddy shouldn't have been functional but look what they did. I personally don't believe any of the Glamrocks are or ever were posssessed. It totally undoes what Pizza Sim did and is pretty cliche at this point.
My personal theory on Glamrock Bonnie: I believe Monty didn’t “decommission” Bonnie, my evidence being that Monty wasn’t upgraded until after Bonnie went missing. I also believe Bonnie was the animatronic mentioned in the cds that mauled the technicians/therapists after Vanny hacked him. This would also support the theory that Burntrap was remade with Bonnie’s parts. (Also due to Burntrap no longer missing a hand) But where was Monty before Bonnie went missing? I believe he was in Fazer Blast as the preshow in instead of the staff bot. Tbh using a staff bot for fazer blast seems rushed, and the stage seems to big for just one staff bot. Also that could explain why Monty would need adjustments. Other theories: -Bonnie is just wandering around the pizzaplex (He was already missing he just last seen going in GGolf) -Monty just found his shades one day on the floor or something -Bonnie’s the reason the elevator is almost broken (he went over weight limit with Vanny) -He’s in the Blob as the bonnie arm sticking out. -The Blob is just UCN which explains why FT freddy isn’t in UCN since he was kinda runnin the show with Gold fred Edit: other theories, changing some words and more evidence
@@Bonniethebunny While that would make sense in why Glamrock Freddy would miss him, Glamrock Freddy could still be hacked by Burntrap and he would attack Gregory on low power, so it could be a possibility he was hacked. We can only wait and see about the fate of Bonnie.
Some people I’ve talked to about this thought that Monty Gator _IS_ Glamrock Bonnie, but got wrecked/decommissioned and got rebuilt as Monty Gator, which is why he goes crazy and trashed his dressing room and other parts of the Pizzaplex.
If Afton transferred himself into Glamrock Bonnie he could walk around during open hours and kill kids on his own too. He can’t be walking around and overseeing his plans looking like he does as Burntrap. Bonnie would need to be taken out of commission and disassembled/services in preparation for the transfer. Plus if Bonnie acted differently upon return from it’s temporary decommission that could excuse the different behavior.
The problem with a future DLC is that every ending involves Gregory & Freddy leaving, but I guess returning to save Bonnie could be a reason they'd return? Obviously it doesn't take place after the bad/fire/vanny endings because Freddy or Gregory get wrecked, the good ending leaving via the loading dock involves just getting away from the pizzaplex, and the Afton ending seems to be just Gregory & Freddy getting out of there; I will admit the Afton ending seems like the most likely, and it is the canon ending, so I guess it's possible.
I think it should take place after the Mr. Hippo ending. They go back to save Bonnie, the Monty, Roxy, and Chica are all repaired, they find a way to free them from the hack, and we get to see Glamrock Mr. Hippo.
This actually makes a lot of sense. If you remember in one of the trailers, Monty said “you will bring me what I want, and if you fail, then you, both of you, will burn.” Maybe he was talking to Roxy and Chica, or someone else. This explains Monty’s desire to be on top. I would also love to see a prequel DLC with Bonnie.
The closest sense in the DLC might be in the past, to where you control the missing kid that meets Bonnie, who then tries to help, and then it leads up the the next night (or Hense the day/Night Gregory gets involved with Freddy)
I saw a theory that Bonnie may have been one of the first animatronics to come under the "possession" of Glitchtrap. They thought Bonnie's movement log was a trajectory Glitchtrap-possessed Bonnie made. It just seems strange to mention Bonnie's movement unless the animatronics weren't supposed to be roaming at night. From what I remember Bonnie only went to Gator Golf, not Fazer blast, or Roxy raceway. Maybe originally they were supposed to roam in their own location at night and not go anywhere else. What if Monty somehow recognized that something was wrong with Bonnie and attacked him not because he wanted to usurp the animatronic as the new base player, but because he was wanting to protect the Pizzaplex? That might make sense why they scrapped Bonnie's design and put Monty in the band. Bonnie's software was corrupted and Monty wasn't (yet). But. Because the technicians didn't fix the glitch in the system, it eventually took over the other animatronics? Idk. Just a random thought while watching this.
But then why is freddy in a trash can in montys gator golf,he wants so much attention,and this is probaly aftons doing just do get Bonnie's body for himself
I would also think a prequel would be a good idea! But next to Bonnie, we haven’t really seen a lot of Vanny. Even though she was made to be the main villain for security breach. I really want to see more of Vanny in the dlc.
Alright, here's a thought about why Vanny might have wanted Bonnie gone and replaced with Montgomery. What if Bonnie, like Freddy, couldn't be fully hacked, and ended up meddling with her plans despite her attempts at hijacking him? If she needed to take over the Pizzaplex animatronics quickly so she could move forward with some plan, it wouldn't be ideal to spend ages trying to control an animatronic that wouldn't get controlled. If Monty had ended up being easier to hack, there may have been a point where she decided that it was better to dismantle Bonnie both due to him being a loose end and maybe because he'd seen too much, so she had Monty do the job so he could take his place. Pure speculation, but I wouldn't be shocked if it went something like that.
Maybe she didn't know about Freddy being immune to it and she assumed it would work? I doubt that but maybe that glitched got him into security breach mode which negated Vanny's control but Bonnie was completely unhackable or.... what if Bonnie was literally the firewall.... Bonnie could have had the code protecting the Glamrocks from hacks meaning if he died then the rest would guarantee to fall
YES. Ive been saying this since day one honestly. Im so glad others actually agree. Everyone pins it on monty and completely forget the basis of this game haha. Leave Monty Alone.
I think Monty's been set up to take the fall in case there's ever too many questions about what Really happened to Bonnie. If Monty really was so envious of Bonnie's position in the band, then why would Bonnie ever just wander into Monty Golf alone? Monty's not subtle at all about how he feels, and, frankly, isn't that bright, either. It makes no sense to me. Monty also didn't get those claws that allow him to destroy things until after they tapped him as the new bass player. How did he destroy Bonnie without them? Why would the people who built Monty Golf put up a fake dumpster with an effigy of their biggest star and most popular animatronic sitting in it? Why did Monty get his own area before before becoming a band member? If having the area is what got him the position (being already recognizable to kids), then why do they put Mr. Hippo into the band instead of El Chip? When Vanessa threatens Freddy, she doesn't talk about decommissioning him permanently, but rather about Monty taking over Temporarily, "until Parts & Service can slap his case on a new endo", and I think the key lies in that phrase. The endoskeletons' programming and training is being hijacked by Vanessa/Vanny and Afton now that she's moved in, and she's gradually replacing the old, friendly and helpful endoskeletons with new ones that are programmed to kidnap and kill children. If they get possessed, gain sentience, misbehave, etc, they get ripped out, scrapped (the blob, maybe?), and replaced. Something so terrible happened to Bonnie that his casing couldn't be salvaged, and I really don't think Monty could've done it without his claws.
..... makes sense and the remains could have created Burntrap I mean look at the injuries some of Glamrock Bonnie's parts wouldn't be salvageable or entirely fixed so she went with what she had and created Burntrap's suit? I mean you look at Glamrock Freddy after being dismantled with them being stopped imagine Glamrock Bonnie getting a similar treatment with it not stopping at all..... Who knows what could happen to them I mean Freddy died from it looking like that and it wasn't even the full course imagine if Bonnie went through the full course of being dismantled.... wait... Or in an attempt to get Bonnie's body Vanny sends the staff bots to get it only for Monty to take them down and hide them in his room then hide Bonnie knowing that he may not be able to trust anyone as he could know that someone in the management wanted Bonnie gone personally meaning that his friends may want to do the same to Bonnie so he hides Bonnie's body and the staff bots and roughed up his room so much people are too scared to get the staffbot meaning they cant give up any info to Vanny like for example where Monty hid Bonnie's body for example I mean we don't know what happened to that body and we see Bonnie enter Monty's golf course
Here is how I believe the scenario went Glamrock Bonnie runs into Montys golf in an attempt to hid from the Staffbots. Monty sees a scared Bonnie and tries to find out what happened only to see the staffbots jump Bonnie and begin dismantling him. Monty to protect his friend runs in and anmilates them. Bonnie then asks to hide somewhere so Monty offers an area that he uses a lot when he hides which is his cat walks. He then hides Bonnie somewhere up there where no one would look for him then he stays up there a lot to guard Bonnie
The theory makes perfect sense. The daycare attendent does not have a green room. Bonnie likely had one and monty didnt. The signs could be a cover for construction to keep the realistic illusion alive during the construction to convert it to montys room. Monty may not be happy about having a hand me down which would explain why its trashed.
Well the daycare attendant kinda did. The secret pirate cutout Easter egg leads to what we can assume is his green room. But it was probably closed due to the fact that Mr. Daycare Attendant scares off his audience. I think this supports your theory though because Monty would probably be outraged at the fact that even the Daycare Attendant has a green room and he isn’t even a part of the band.
Steel wool/scott in the background be like: ha! Too excitable let's make a new character and use freddy just by himself for the DLC mattera fact make it a moon land DLC we need to be unexpected
Something I'd like to add to the DLC idea: Passive Moon. As Dawko mentioned, Vanny just entered the pizzaplex to hack the animatronics. Many people beleive Moon's programming was hacked by Vanny, therefore making him go after Gregory. It would be lovely to see Moon just being passive, see if his voice would change, ect. And now, I have a theory. Stay if you wish. Sun knew Moon was acting up for a while, so he insisted the lights stay on as to not provoke Moon and so the children will stay safe. If Moon's programming was hacked, this would make sense. This would also somewhat explain why, in game, he's trying to keep Gregory in one spot so he can't turn off the lights. Using distractions to save the child. I think Sun banning Gregory from the daycare is to make sure he doesn't get hurt again, but Moon can roam the plex anyway. Or Sun really does love following rules, and lights on was a new rule. Wait I forgot he alerts the animatronics, revealing your location- He probably believes they can help you- Tbh this was really pulling at loose strings. Prob gon' remove it idk Never really theorised something before so- Hope this was okay- ^^
Actually this makes sense. Even though Sun and Moon share a body, they don't seem to share the same programming. Their voices are different, they have different ways of moving, and seemingly different personalities. They must share some traits, likely ones programed into them because of their job as the Daycare Attendant (the cleaning, and likely some form of caring, compassion, etc.), but based on their reactions to it, their personalities do seem to be separate. Based on the fact that they switch based on external stimuli, it makes sense that if Vanny took Eclipse (my name for Sun and Moon's shared body and their System, as with people with DID) down to Afton's hideout to be hacked as Freddy says the others were, Moon would HAVE to be fronting (in control) because of how dark it is down there--since even shining a flashlight directly in Moon's face doesn't get him to switch back. Sun must have known Moon was compromised, especially after he scared the child mentioned in the Night Terrors message. So, trying to keep Gregory distracted, away from anything that could turn off the lights--so the compromised Moon wouldn't be able to switch--but happy, too. I think he banned Gregory to keep him safe from themselves, and called security because, in any other case, security would be able to keep Gregory safe, and so would the other animatronics. Since Freddy didn't remember being down in Afton's lair until he was back down there, it follows that Sun wouldn't know that the others were compromised, or how--he only knows that Moon is 'malfunctioning,' and since he can't leave the Daycare to see the others acting strangely. I would love a Daytime DLC from before all of this happened--so we can see Glamrock Bonnie, maybe Glamrock Foxy, too* all and see what all of them acted like before Gltichtrap was added into the systems. They could polish up the Monty Golf Minigame (possibility with the actual map instead of as an arcade?), finish implementing the Bonnie Bowl Minigame, maybe a Roxy Raceway one where we actually use the track, some sort of Freddy Minigame, a visit to the Daycare where we see Moon acting as intended (because there is no way in William Afton's Animatronic Hell that a company that's trying to clean up it's image is programming a 'naptime' robot to act like THAT--even if the animatronics are sentient AI, you still have to program AI), more arcades, and more. It'd make use of the huge map they've created--and hopefully give them time to fix all of the bugs and add bad in the scrapped content because good god there is a lot cut from this game. Hey, if you want to make it connect with the lore, we could play as one of the kids Vanny kills to help get Glitchtrap a physical body. We know there have been several missing persons, so hey, why not play as a soon-to-be-murdered kid? *Tangent, but seriously, where is Foxy? We get a pseudo-explanation for Bonnie's absence but WHERE IS FOXY? He's got an area that's sort-of themed around him--Kid's Cove--and he, along with Freddy, are the ONLY two animatronics that have always had an iteration in each of the sets. All four appear in the Classics, the Toys--although Toy Foxy was partially destroyed, they were still present; in the Phantom lineup Bonnie was absent, although within the game one could suppose Springtrap was the Bonnie, within the Nightmares all four are present, within the Funtimes Foxy has two animatronics if you count Lolbit, and so does Freddy if you count Yenndo, but Bonnie lacks a stand-alone animatronic, instead having Bon-Bon and Bonnet--even Chica got a Funtime later in the series; the Twisted set from the books has all four and a new wolf, the Rockstars are complete, the only set without foxy is the Shadows (yes, they are canon) who are also missing Chica. Maybe I'm just a critic, but I think it's weird that Foxy is gone without a trace. And, seeing as him and Bonnie are the Fan-favourites, its a weird choice.
@@FrostFire425 yes, he was, but why? For Bonnie it's been assumed from things the game implies that he WAS around until something happened--whether that be Monty decommissioning him or Vanny using his endo to repair the remains of Scraptrap--it doesnt particularly matter what happened, but we know he was there. With Foxy, it's not even clear there ever WAS a Glamrock Foxy to complete the set. In Kid's Cove, there's not a stage like in Bonnie Bowl, and while it's pirate themed, it's not Foxy themed quite like Mazercize is.
The most logical conclusion I can think of would be that both Bonnie and Monty were test hacks Vanny performed to make sure she'd have control of the glamrocks. After all Bonnie moving all around the pizzaplex at night seems a bit odd, she may have tested if they'd respond to orders like attacking other robots. That might be why Monty done it, he still would have the usual temper issues.
9:26 I think, more accuratly, a Glamrock Endoskeleton was used because the Spring Bonnie endoskeleton that Springlocked William in FNaF 3 would be around 40 if not 50 years old by this point. There's no way that thing's going to be compatible with a charging station.
Vanny using glamrock bonnie parts to rebuild Afton makes a tone of sense especially considering how modern the endoskeleton looks and how it also has parts that were missing in previous springtrap iterations. Also Vanny is no stranger to having animations "disassemble" others.
Theory: Monty's greenroom is possibly in off limits due to renovations because it used to be Bonnie's room, explaining the loud noises which people think is Monty
There are many disagreements with a theory that Monty actually decommissioned Bonnie. Of course in the message there was mentioned that Bonnie was last seen at Monty Golf but they didn't mentioned that Monty was around this area. I don't even believe Monty would be that cruel towards Bonnie, because Freddy mentioned Gregory that his friends would never hurt anyone, which means, even if Monty would destroy Bonnie probably would do that because he was in that moment infected by Glichtrap
Carrying on with the idea of a prequel, there's this really cool series called 'Vanessa: Into Madness' by NightCove_theFox here on RUclips. I really recommend it! It shows the life of Vanessa before and during her descent into becoming Vanny. It's really well made and executes some popular theories really well :)
Matpat as actually did a really nice theory video on this one. It all comes down to the hands. Only bass players have claws. Because they need them to play the strings. If you pay attention, Afton and Monty are the only two endos to have claws. It's actually what allows Freddy later to break down gates once Monty has been decommissioned.
My own personal theory is that Vanny got rid of Bonnie through Montgomery because she wanted to draw less attention to a rabbit character walking around the place because she uses a rabbit suit. Less interesting, more reasonable.
I could be wrong about this, but wasn't Monty given his claw upgrade to play the bass? So he may not have necessarily been able to destroy Bonnie with his old claws
A couple theories I had to do with this subject; I think that Freddy might hate Monty for what he supposedly did to Bonnie, as when you take Monty's claws, Freddy doesn't pry any further when Gregory says he'd rather not say where he got them. Even though he can tell the voicebox you install into him is Chica's, and seems distressed when he finds out you gave him Roxy's eyes, he doesn't bat an eye at the green and purple claws that look exactly like Monty's being installed onto him. I think there's no way he doesn't know they're Monty's claws, and he's just indifferent to it due to Monty taking out Bonnie. Another thing, I think if Bonnie's destruction wasn't Vanny's doing, Bonnie may have went to Monty's golf course to talk with him about his jealousy. Monty wouldn't have had a green room in Rockstar Row, so Bonnie would have to go to Monty Golf to talk to Monty, and if Monty's jealousy was a concern to Bonnie, he might have wanted to talk it out.
I would personally agree a lot more with the Idea of Bonnie and Freddy Being close and a problem for Vanny. Most of the reasons for Monty being the way he is and wanting the spotlight could lend creedence to this theory too since If Freddy and Bonnie are Alike then Of course Monty would want to get rid of both of them to be the star because he's been tampered with, both of their endoskeletons are a problem & Vanny could simply give him that motivation. The Log showing Bonnie Wandering More gives Implication that he was snooping around the place at night looking for answers, and why would he go into Monty golf in the first place then? Espicially if Bonnie Knew how Aggressive Monty tends to be. I think theyre both right, Yes Monty was most likely the person who dissambled Bonnie or maybe Vanny got staff bots to do it, but the reason that was done was because Freddy either rubbed off on Bonnie or was simply like him in AI being more complex or having a spirit in him or something that made him much more difficult to manipulate. Bonnie may have regularly left his greenroom in order to see what Vanny was up to at night, but getting caught Alone would eventually lead to his decomissioning. I would defintley love to see something done with Bonnie even if he doesn't appear directly I'd like the mystery surrounding him to be Solved and for Freddy to get some closure with him old friend.
I also think vanny was the main culprit in Bonnie disappearance. I think maybe she convinced Monty to help her and she make sure he replace Bonnie in the band. It is strongly believe Monty glasses were actually Bonnie glasses. I think vanny wanted Bonnie out of the way because he was snooping around too much.
Imagine a prequel DLC playing as Glamrock Bonnie ! I don't think Monty destroyed Glamrock Bonnie, but it's possible and sounds logic with all the evidences ! I prefered the theory of Super Horror Bro.
I kind of have an idea to add onto this. Reasoning behind Montgomery destroying his green room is that it wasn't originally his green room but rather bonnie's hence why he's so adamant on destroying it rather then any other room in the game (aside from the gates). Plus it also explains why we don't see bonnie's green room, its simply just remodelled for Montgomery.
I feel as though that the reason Freddy cannot be 'hacked into' is because of his malfunction on stage. Vanessa mentions to him that he has been put on 'low power mode' and therefore his safety functions may not be on. The same safety functions that may force the other animatronics to pursue Gregory and capture him. Vanessa mentioning his low power mode may just be to explain why he must charge after every hour, but i feel there is more to it than just that.
It's the opposite, the others aren't in Safe Mode which is why they're dangerous for Gregory, whereas because of Freddy glitches out he automatically rebooted into Safe Mode.
I LOVE the prequel dlc idea!! One thing - in the VANNY endings, she disassembles Freddy beyond repair so quickly and easily…like she’s done it before. I’m convinced that Bonnie was also disassembled in this way, and the kid just wasn’t as lucky as Gregory was
I think there was a thread of a plot that wasn't quite present in the final release. My impression from the trailers and teasers and such seem to point towards Monty being the animatronic that Glitchtrap had a firm hand in controlling early in his presence in the pizzaplex. That's the energy he gives off with Roxanne and Chica, and we get a pretty firm implication that he took out Bonnie too, as well as his fantasy of taking out Freddy. If he was the first to be touched by Glitchtrap, it would make sense for William to strongly reinforce Monty's fury and desire to be a part of the main show - he could have empowered and emboldened Monty into destroying Bonnie so that Will could have a hand in control of one of the main acts of the show. I think that it may have been slightly opportunistic in that sense, where Glitchtrap first "snags" Monty and decides it's far easier to simply have Monty scrap Bonnie and replace him than it would be to try to hop from a side character into one of the busy main rockstars. Vanny was probably instrumental to the decision of making Monty part of the band for that reason, too, assisting in the spread of Glitchtrap's influence from just the arcades to the entirety of the system.
I would love to see two dlcs for Security Breach; the 'Ruins' dlc, and a prequel dlc. I would also like to know what happened to Glamrock Foxy, or Captain Foxy.
I have to disagree with this and not because I side with Monty: Freddy himself has stated (To Gregory in Parts in Service) that none of his friends are capable of hurting anyone since it's not part of their programming. This is further evidenced by the fact none of the current animatronics (Except maybe Freddy cuz of possibly Michael lmao) are possessed either so there is no official reason for them to be able to cause harm. Vanny is honestly the only reason they started to hurt Gregory and yes I do agree that Monty was upset that Freddy ruined the show and while he is aggressive, there was no other reasons of him causing harm. I do like your theory but I'm betting this is all due to Vanny though and hopefully in the upcoming DLC we'll get our answer. I'm okay with either though!
I absolutely love Dawko's idea of a prequel DLC because after the random missing kid get's killed by Vanny they could end up possessing Glamrock Freddy which would explain why GLamrock Freddy wants to help Gregory so much, because he wants to be the Glamrock Bonnie to Gregory.
Isnt there a theory that freddy is Michael afton and gregory is crying child. I mean would make sense since the fnaf 6 fire didn’t kill any of the animatronics
10:29 maybe the reason was because Vanny wanted Monty to be in the band so he could get out of Monty's Golf and to the other areas. Allow me to explain myself: -Monty is the most aggressive and strong of the two - by what we've seen Bonny was probably softer in nature like Freddy. - The main band animatronics can go everywhere in the mall and are rented in parties. So Vanny knowing all this probably hacked Monty and used him. The fact that they added the claws update was a nice bonus because Bonnie wouldn't have been aggressive enough to cause trouble on purpose but Monty is. Monty breaking stuff around the mall isn't suspicious at all. She probably used the Glamrock personalities against them.
What if Vanny, when she hacked Monty, gave him like a God complex or something that made him want to be the star so he would destroy Bonnie? Monty would be to blame, not Vannessa/Vanny and she could've said "it'd be cheaper just to have him stay gone instead of replacing him" so they saved money by not repairing/replacing him. Idk just food for thought
I actually found by glitching through the door at the bottom of the stairwell in bonnie bowl, it leads to vannys secret room in fazerblast.
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Ya i Remember that😂
I like your videos
And I theorized that Vanny/Vanessa could or would've been responsible for Bonnie's Disappearances, alongside with Monty being involved.
Cool
@@MarionettePuppetMaster what vanessa has to do, just saying
It would be cool to get a prequel dlc that’s fully shows how the virus spread and what happens to Bonnie
That would be REALLY cool!
I mean, AR tells us how it spread
We already have a prequel, it's called the rest of the franchise
I think it would be cool if u find Bonnie and repair him and instead of him chasing u to kill u he helps u because he is best friends with Freddy and they would team up with u that would be so cool
@@flamingfishey like something where you can play a Night 2 and get some more security passes.
Random thing I thought of a while ago.
They said they gave him claws so he could play the guitar better, which means he didn't always have them. This also means he didn't play the bass, but still was a prominent part of the park, which is clear because of the entire golfing section of the building. Maybe he played the drums before-hand, which would fit his destructive nature of hitting things with force.
Yoooo that makes sense…
As a drummer myself, it would be the freaking best if Monty is a drummer
He's my favourite character:D
I would love to see Monty playing the drums.
You read my mind I always thought Monty was a drummer and he and glam Freddy was friend with Bonnie.
Hell Yeah
This is such an interesting theory! I have one other one, though. That message of "Bonnie was seen exiting his green room..." has me thinking this is actually about Vanny. Maybe because Vanny glitches out, this is reflected on the cameras, and all they can make out is the bunny ears. I wonder if the security guards reported seeing "Bonnie" during Vanny's murders, and the Pizzaplex decommissioned Bonnie as a result.
Now that was a lot of writing well done dude
Good idea. I think Vanny took out Bonnie, not Monty. I could be way off but I thought maybe Bonnie was Burntraps preferred "body."
Also, if you add Vanny maybe was jealous of another rabbit being around and she wanted to be the only one in her own weird mind.
If we're going with the pre-dlc Bonnie idea, it makes sense to change up the formula. The kid's an actual guest, who's mostly just exploring around during the day and sees the animatronics at their best. Maybe we can even meet n' greet with them, give the other characters a bit to flesh themselves out more to the player. The only problem is the possible other random kid/adult models but you could explain it away with the kid being so engrossed they don't pay attention to the people around them except a faceless tired mom character who guides the kid around, effectively pulling the player away from an area after a while. (the Devs could get to reuse parts of that huge map!) Eventually, we meet Bonnie and somehow end up helping him search for clues because he's realized something's going on (Vanny) and we spend the rest of the night searching with him to find the truth...only to end up at the bad end like Dawko said.
That's a good call and a very good idea! Another solution I'd see for reducing the crowds and needed models is - maybe the kid is a sort of "VIP" guest, be ti through paying more or because he has a family member among the mall staff and he's allowed this one time to come into the mall after closing - but then things go downhill, he gets locked in alone or something?
Try posting this idea on the FNaF subreddit, so they may be able to see this as well
Hello fellow splatoon fan
We need this and future DLC where we save him.
i think Bonnie is cancelled and so hes in parts and service
I love seeing every artist's take on the possible Glamrock Bonnie designs. Would absolutely love to see SteelWool's design and to know what happened to him too.
mmmmmmm...... Furry :3
@@f-15TheFkingEagle lol
@@f-15TheFkingEagle :3
I've seen a theory that Bonnie was actually the first animatronic to try and save the missing people, but he was caught and had to be disassembled. I personally like that theory.
or they thought hmmm if there is no bonnie then we can easily lure kids by pretending to be bonnie because they way they got around it before is he ether was bonnie or not and considering what happened to him I feel as tho not even a controlled shock could motivate someone and also probably management would be made aware if they made a new springlock suit so just a theory a stupid theory
@Arielle Wasiak i think monty was with glam bonnie when he got decommisioned by vanny and he blames himself for not saving him and is really aggressive against anything new.
@@sebastiangibson9671 my theory is that management programmed him to do that and programmed Monty to destroy him (without security knowing so that they wouldn't leak that information) so they could disassociate themselves with a rabbit / bunny because of the child murders involving spring bonnie , and since they became a big company they knew that the bonnie animatronic could be a concern to some people.
I agree
@@grandiewandie but theres some flaws to it too so far monty could have been found at the day on his room with shattered hands because punching or killing an animatronic with no upgrades at the time is no easy task even the security bots took a long time and there best to kill freddy in that vanny ending and after all those shattering task freddy's body is still mostly intact it looks like some one put a bumb on his chest and blow it up.
Two things. About the design of Bonnie, the picture in the frame has a big star on his left eye. About the lore, the note said that he was out of commission, meaning the staff found him but he was to damaged to be salvaged.
another thing to note is that Monty's feet are purple. The game did say they upgraded Monty after Bonnie "disappeared"... I think certain parts were reused in Monty that were originally Bonnie's. That's why Monty can jump so far. Rabbit's hop around. Monty got them (un)lucky rabbit feet
Yes I personally stated this fact many times,
I dunno, if you search it up, gators can jump pretty high too, I honestly wouldn't be surprised, but if that's the case, why wouldn't Bonnie's jump be showcased in his upgrades blueprint?
His wrists and eyelids are also purple. I think all animatronics can jump so far if they motivated enough since endos are the same and they supposedly have terminator-like strength. (Ignoring how Chica patheticaly lost to a 10 y.o. child)
strongly agree with this theory
I also believe that originally you were taking monty's legs. All the other parts missing from the scrapped animatronics were actually the ones used for freddy, all except monty's. Also, when you claim his claws after defeating him, you head over to his legs and then claim the claws, which is a little weird. There is also the fact that there is an unused texture for a scrapped freddy that resembles one from one of the comics. except that the texture placement for monty's parts wouldn't work for claws, but would for legs in a proper scrapped freddy model. So we know originally you were supposed to take his legs and that would make sense with this bonnie theory in mind.
While everyone talks about if Monty took him out or not, I'd like to theorise what was his place in the group. Judging by the small stage and layout of Bonnie bowl, I think it's safe to asume that Bonnie was meant to appeal to the everyman.
The everyman is a term used mostly for characters who pretty much anyone can identify with. One example of this would be how in Goofy's old cartoons was meant to appeal to the everyday grown up folks while still being cartoons for kids. He could fit in to a wide variety of roles, humour and situations. Or how most people watching Spongebob, really appreciate and sympathise with Squidward later in life. (Seasons 1 to 3 were and always will be the best.) This also shows another important factor about the everyman. They're always secondary to the main character. This fits in with Bonnie, being a secondary character for Freddy whi is the star of the show.
As for why I think his attraction show's that his main appeal was being the everyman for grown ups to enjoy, he's a lot more formal on the animation for his attraction compared to the 'radical 80s' vibe everyone else has. Colours in the attraction are also only really flashy in the arcade area.
Some may wonder why there's an arcade section there when there's already a lot more arcade areas in the Pizzaplex but that boils down to child safety. The parents come her so that they can relax and bowl but if they have kids, they can play in the arcade and be close enough for the adults to supervise and keep an eye on them.
Bonnie's stage is also pretty small, hinting that he would have performed here solo. Most likely he would have played simple guitar or base songs while people played bowling or just be sitting down enjoying some food. His act could have even involed talking or making a few light humoured jokes with paying customers. Simple but effective and provides a good place to relax. The Scooby Doo styled cartoons also show that Bonnie was extremely laid back and took pertty much everything in his stride. That style of personality and performance often appeals more with grown ups. So it's easy to imagine him as the laid back uncle of the group.
But hey. That's just a therory. A GAME THE-*Chokes*
Please tell me what you guys think. :)
This is honestly a really good theory. I hope in a dlc we could see a lot more about him
Ooooh I like this theory It would be pretty cool seeying him In Bonnie bowl and interacting with him
Man, i love this. Very much. Thanks.
Great theory👍
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Just had a thought, about Monty being hacked:
Before he was originally hacked to destroy Bonnie, what if Monty had no intentions of moving up the ranks at all? What if his violent behaviour in the game was a change in his personality made by Vanny to cover up and almost excuse the fact he destroyed Bonnie. If he has anger issues and a desire to become leader, it wouldn't seem out of the ordinary so the company wouldn't suspect that a third party is tampering with the AI
Good theory. I think it could be true but that's just my opinion.
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. I think though it’s only speculation, it’s possible that could be some of the lore behind it later on, if they ever decide to throw us a bone on his story that is.
I really really hope for a Glamrock Bonnie DLC. It would be great to have an official appearance of him, getting to see him in person and maybe even have him help us.
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...did we forget that Bonnie, in all the other games, was always the most aggressive character?
Maybe his aggressive program was passed onto Monty. It would explain why Monty's so angry and aggressive now.
Maybe he wasn't always like this.
TBH, the "Bonnie's always the most aggressive" one doesn't have much viability IMO.
Classic/Withered: He's possessed by a dead child. That's the dead child, not him.
Toy: The toys were all tampered with.
Nightmare: ALL the Nightmares are aggressive.
Plus, see Glamrock Freddy. He's not like his counterparts in those regards. Why can't Glamrock Bonnie be different to his counterparts too?
Well there isn't really anything to support this theory so seems unlikely
@@InfiniteThePhantomJackal Some characters, if they changed with respect to their counterparts.
Freddy: From being a child trapped inside an animatronic, still frightened by what happened.
Glamrock Freddy: To being an animatronic (possibly possessed) with the eagerness to help a child.
Chica: From being a murdered children.
Glamrock Chica: To an animatronic controlled by a virus and with eating problems.
Bonnie being the most aggressive isn’t even correct, most aggressive would go to Foxy
@@Profileunused when I say aggressive I mean he was always the first to try and get to your office. He was always the first to move
Hm. In all honesty, there are several problems with positing Monty as the culprit.
The first, bluntly, is that Monty is about as subtle as a stick of dynamite. If he'd decommissioned Bonnie, Bonnie wouldn't have gone missing -- he'd have been spread all over Monty's Gator Golf in small pieces.
The second is Monty's claws. Those claws were _not_ part of Monty's initial design -- they were added so that he could play bass guitar. This means that Bonnie, the previous bass player, had those claws as part of _his_ initial design. That would give Bonnie a major advantage in a battle between the two of them.
Thirdly, look at the messages regarding Monty's behavior: He often goes to the catwalks over his golf course, staying up there so long that he's been hit by the Hole-In-One Hurricane before. After performances, he goes on rampages -- _under_ the mall. The message notes that he's breaking through fences down there. We only see him do that when he's looking for Gregory.
All put together, this seems to indicate that Monty is _looking for Bonnie_ . He regularly gets a bird's-eye view of the last place Bonnie was seen, and he goes smashing through security gates under the PizzaPlex.
If this is true, then Monty's battering of his green room makes sense -- because _he doesn't feel it's really his_ . He didn't earn the bass position, he wasn't picked because he was special or a fan favorite -- he was picked because he was available, because Bonnie went missing. However much he wants to be the star, he wants to be the star because he's good and popular -- not because there's nobody else.
I really like the idea that not only did Monty not decommission Bonnie, he's actually trying to find him.
This, so much this.
I dont think so. Monty's greed was already confirmed. So as his aggresive personality
@@juliane.mfarias9285 Monty's greed is a golf minigame that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area, and it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie's.
All you have for "evidence" is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
Thai actually makes sense tho
look closely at bruntrap's design. You can see an endo skeleton that defiantly wouldn't have been used in the past. Keep in mind that burntrap's endo would have been a spinglock suit, but the endo looks more advanced and brand new.
Also vanny has a button to 'dissemble' other animatronics by staff bots. And guess who last saw Bonnie? The staff bots
That's wrong. So Bonnie's endo got someone skin Inside? It's just a redesign man. And plus the staff bots were NOT the last to see Bonnie it was the camera what are you on about?
@@pumicepytgmod6609 The Staff Bots Are Most Likely Portable Cameras.
@@AJCylace2002 Answer how the heck an entire corpse got inside then
@@pumicepytgmod6609 deez
What if Bonnie got dismantled in Monty's golf and Monty hid and watched in horror as the staff bots dismantled Bonnie then he followed them and grabbed Bonnie's glasses and guitar (maybe guitar) in an attempt to honor Bonnie's memory by having his equipment live past his life
Vanny being the actual culprit makes more sense to me, albeit w/ different explanation. We know Afton's obsession w/ rabbits; it's possible that bonnie was actually the first to be hacked and was to be his vessel. We know they don't normally leave their room after hours, so bonnie going to the golf course for no apparent reason is already strange. We also know that they can detect system tampering to an extent from the opening sequence. From the gameplay, we know that the animatronics can't hurt each other (Freddy is never attacked), BUT Vanny needs a signal-interfering suit to avoid being seen, which may indicate that they have some kind of security programming that prevents them from hurting each other, but react violently to any unregistered individual (Gregory and Vanny BUT NOT Vanessa; Vanessa is a registered staff, but not her alter ego). Possibly Monty detected hacked bonnie and attacked him.
Well it still doesn't make sense that Vanny is never attacked by the animatronics. This is a solid theory though. Monty must have detected Afton's malware within Bonnie, and it would be in line with his character to solve the problem with violence. Maybe the reason he's trashing his green room is because he also misses Bonnie. He just handles his emotions by raging in his room. I think this cause they don't initially seem to be hacked until a bit later on.
@@tylajon3126 Vanny wears a signal interfering device in her outfit which makes the animatronics unable to see her (Freddy's statements confirm this). This is why the player's screen glitches when she's near. Afton technically made Vanessa buy/wear that outfit, so he's probably learning from his mistake w/ bonnie and decided to include said device. Everything clicks into place
A major issue with the "Monty destroyed Bonnie" theory is that whatever external damage he could cause wouldn't cause the company to rebrand; they would just make a new Bonnie and carry on like nothing happened.
There are several events/messages supporting this:
- Monty Mischief message - Ironically Monty himself is the one proving that damage isn't enough to truly take an animatronic out of the game; this message talks about how Monty suffered heavy damage in the past from the Hurricane bucket tipping over and required emergency repairs.
- SAFETY CHECK message - if Chica were to suffer damage from the compactor she would just get replacement part, with the cost being deducted from the culprit's paycheck.
- The Good Ending (kitchen door escape): the newspaper at the end of the credits shows that Chica, Roxy and Monty all got fully repaired, despite their tremendous injuries.
- While Freddy is in the Parts & Service room Vanessa tells him how they can just slaps his casing on a new endo and replace him.
- If you bring Freddy to the Endo room he will have a philosophical break down, wondering if he is actually the first and only Freddy or if he is mass produced and there were others before him.
Imo whatever caused Bonnie to disappear couldn't have been physical damage. The only two possible explanations I can think of is that either his public image got tarnished (maybe due to the Springtrap murders or some more recent events), forcing the company to move away from Bonnie OR a higher-up just out of the blue ordered him to be replaced (maybe the same higher-up who recommended Vanessa for the Chief Security Officer position, despite her lack of experience?).
Also, I'd argue that Monty actually doesn't even want to be a part of the main band; Monty Mischief mentions how he keeps skipping public performances, preferring to hide away on the catwalks above his golf course AND all the evidence for a desire to be a star was created by other people; Monty didn't make the Golf Arcade game therefore he wasn't the one to put Freddy in the trash. He wasn't the one to make the creative decision to promote him, that was the management of the pizzaplex.
wow, nicley concluded, your theory makes much sense o:
I really like how much effort you put into this comment, and now, reading it, I do see your point. They indeed do have alot of Endoskeletons, so just assuming they didn't have another animatronic costume, they would have had it easy to just remake it, especially when blueprints were most likely left behind. Your other theories about what alse had happened to him are also interesting!
Finally! Someone gets it.
I personally think the “testing” part in parts and service is there to reveal what Fazbear Entertainment has done, create a sentient AI. The then upload the AI into Endoskeletons and do horrible experiments on them. They do this so they can get the perfect traits for their characters. But sometimes it can go bad like, “Chica needs to eat” but the way that the Chica Endoskeleton interprets it is to eat and don’t stop. Similar things happen to the other animatronics. Monty’s too aggressive, Roxy’s too self absorbed, Freddy’s too nice, and Sun and Moon are overprotective-neat-freaks. When they force character traits onto the Endoskeletons it causes them to over emulate the traits. So when Bonnie was destroyed and taken for Afton parts or whatever they couldn’t just slap his casing on a new Endoskeleton, because they would have to recreate all his character traits. I also think when Vanessa says that to Freddy it was an empty threat, just to scare him into behaving. It obviously doesn’t work because his trait is to be nice as possible even at his own risk. I also think that this explains why the Endoskeletons freeze when you look at them, they’re afraid of you hurting them. That’s also why they attack when you don’t look. They want revenge on humans because humans hurt them. They don’t attack when they have casings and are let loose in the Pizzaplex because they think of it as a reward for their suffering. That’s why they don’t want to “have they’re casings thrown on another Endoskeleton” because it mean back to the basement or decommissioning.
Thing is, nothing in FNAF is a coincidence. They wouldn't just put Bonnie's last seen location Monty Golf with the same exact message saying "Missing" as it's title for no reason. Albeit I do believe that there's more to Bonnie's disappearance than just Monty, but there's simply no way that Monty wouldn't have had anything to do with it, just that there's more to this than meets the eye.
As for the Gator Golf arcade, I'm pretty sure that's just an easter egg. There's a lot of easter eggs in the game, with Balloon World and the security offices in Princess Quest II, etc. Obviously Fazbear Entertainment wouldn't want to have kids see their potentially favorite animatronic, Glamrock Freddy, be thrown in the trash. FNAF has a LOT of Easter Eggs for a reason. So just because Monty didn't make the arcade doesn't mean that the theory is disproven, it's an easter egg.
Honestly, I like the idea of Vanny manipulating Monty to help her, telling him how getting Bonnie out of the way would benefit both of them. Monty would get the spotlight as the bass player and Vanny gets parts for Afton. Afterwards, Bonnie's endoskeleton is left behind in parts and service, not in a good enough shape to get help, not broken enough to be thrown away. Stuck there in place, watching as people pass by, unable to do anything. But that's just a theory, a game theory-
This doesn't make sense though, as Aftons suit is all burnt and destroyed, most likely the result of the fire in Pizzaria Simulator.
matpat called he wants his outro back
@@aerobridge_ Yet the model contains the newer endoskeletons, indicating that parts were swapped out and replaced - probably because the original parts were fucked up beyond repair leaving Afton immobile.
That's a good theory you know....
Hi! Can I post your theory on Instagram? I'll give your yt username as credit
I’d like to think that Monty actually liked Bonnie, and he’s actually destroying his room because he’s upset that Bonnie is gone, and he’s having trouble understanding what made him do it because he can’t see Vanny. But, everything seems to be leading to Monty being super cruel and destructive.
Aww, i really like this idea. I believe it was vanny/glitch because monty doesnt usually hang out in monty golf, i think he was in his room and then when he went to monty golf he saw bonnie so people might have blamed him 🤷 i like to think that bonnie would teach monty how to play guitar and now he's trying his best to keep a part of bonnie alive by playing 🥺 thats just a random idea because we dont know what actually happened so i like to fill bits in (and part of this is is more of a headcannon then theory but... Still 😅)
Holy jeebus someone else actually shares the same thought. I was under the impression everyone was against monty not gonna lie lmao. THANK YOU.
8:30 - With what Dawko says, I'll re-iterate what I keep saying everywhere, Freddy IS hacked, with the GlitchTrap virus. The one difference between Freddy who remains friendly and the others who turn hostile is Freddy's system crash right at the beginning. There's a line that nobody seems to pay attention to in their theories, after his crash, Freddy reboots into Safe Mode. Safe mode is a bootup mode available in virtually all modern operating systems and I'm assuming it's also included in the operating system the animatronics use (probably some off the shelf free system like Linux or something). What Safe Mode does is limit what processes are loaded during startup to make troubleshooting problems, including malware, easier. Most malware will attach itself to either a running process (such as a computer virus) or will be a process of its own (eg a Trojan Horse), but they don't just magically run, they have to be started up and that usually happens in the startup process - unless a safe mode startup is used. That's the real reason Freddy's not hostile, the malware is in him but inactive. However, during limited times, such as when upgrading/repairing him, the virus may activate and those are the rare times when you can get a Freddy jumpscare.
As for the Monty did it theory, I think that's a little too obvious. I think Vanny either lured Bonnie into Monty Golf to off him there or did the job somewhere else and fudged the logs of Bonnie's whereabouts to say Monty Golf even though Bonnie was really never there. In fact, I think that's exactly what happened, and Bonnie was really in Roxy Raceway, and found something here he shouldn't have and was taken out by Vanny to hide what she was doing below Roxy Raceway. What's below Roxy Raceway? Vanny's big, bad secret she doesn't want anyone to know about. So if Bonnie disappears and anyone from corporate looks into it, a log showing Binnie's last known location as Roxy Raceway would draw too much attention to there and risk Vanny's plans. So she used her hacked access to change the logs to show Monty Golf instead of Roxy Raceway. If anyone investigates, unless they're more diligent then is typical of Fazbear employees, they'll just follow the obvious trail of logs to Monty Golf, the possible motives Monty could have for offing Bonnie, and the fact that Monty obviously benefited from it to blame Monty. In which case they'd probably decommission him and replace him with another animatronic on base and rebrand Monty Golf after the new animatronic. Meanwhile, Vanny's actions beneath Roxy Raceway remain undetected.
I don’t think Monty was always this aggressive. He might have felt left out and when Vanny corrupted him it mad him angry and jealous and Bonnie, not knowing this, went to go talk to Monty about how he was feeling and Monty destroyed him and his parts were used to rebuild William.
Real talk though, if Bonnie was ever brought back and became a part of the band again, he'd kill on the drums and synth. Imagine him playing the drums while sporadically adding synths and just goes back and forth.
Idk I feel like Monty would make a great drummer based on his physical behaviors while Bonnie should stick to the bass.
@@melinatedthinka8210 That's a fair point that I oddly thought of too. Perhaps prior to Bonnie's decommissioning, Monty WAS the drummer? And afterwards, the company felt like it wasn't necessary to keep them around, so the prospect of an "animatronic playing the drums" was scrapped entirely?
And if he were to return? Hypothetically, I personally think Bonnie wouldn't risk getting on Monty's bad side (or at least to keep the peace in the band), he lets him keep the bass. But that's just a quick thought off the top of my head.
I've always sort of liked the idea that it's Vanny's whisperings that convinced Monty to do it. Telling him how unloved and forgotten he is compared to THEM. That if only he could be on that stage, the kids would love him too. All it would take is for Bonnie to disapear. No one would ever know what happened, and he'd finally get his chance in the spotlight... and then she lures Bonnie to Monty, and watches the carnage unfold. Once Bonnie is destroyed, she takes the parts away, and uses them to repair burntrap. All that's left is the glasses Monty stole, and no one will even know what went down but Vanny.
Yeah, I've been leaning towards this type of idea myself too. Perhaps Vanny also outright hacked him and tampered with his personality to some degree, causing him to become highly aggressive.
Or Vanny destroyed Bonnie herself
I think it’d be cool to see any sort of prequel, seeing a non-hostile Glamrock Chica or Roxanne, hell maybe even a different side to Freddy would be really cool. While Bonnie has never been a character I particularly liked, I would like to know what happened to him and I agree a DLC would be a great way to show what went down. My only trouble is that I still think the game needs improvements and will need improvements for a while, so I don’t think the DLC is coming anytime soon. Regardless of what steel wool does with the DLC, I hope Vanny actually does something and is an actual active threat, unlike in the main game.
We need a huge DLC. With more lore more answers and make security breach even better
It’s what I thought was greatly missing in the base game.
True
First they need to break their broken unfinished mess
We also need one for Vanessa.
I have a question will the DLC cost some money
My theory's:
•I think the reason Monty's green room is under construction is because it used to be Bonnie's and they were remodeling it to be Monty's
•The non hostile Endo has what looks like Bonnie's feet
•Maybe Bonnie's parts were used to fix Monty's legs and that's why he can super jump like a rabbit.
If it was Bonnie's room and is not completely refurbished, then it would make sense for someone with a big hatred for Bonnie, to smash everything that belonged to him.
@@hellhound78 sorry to bust your bubble but going into montys room there’s just his plushies and stuff
BUT to inflate your balloon it may have been removed and montys placed into there
Monty's Greenroom isn't under construction. He's destroyed it which you can see when you go inside and look around.
Monty was destroying his room at the start because of a failed show with Freddy fainting and everything
oh ok thanks for telling me I dident know!
here's a slight discrepancy: monty only got destructive AFTER he was fitted with the claws to play the bass, so there would be no explanation for him to want to destroy bonnie.
Thank you!
He disables the turrets without using his claws he punches them so he could have punched bonnie
@@DahHourglass but he used the claws when destroying the turrets.
@@DahHourglass yeah he did. Notice that the entire hand is refered to as a claw in the game by replacing Freddy's entire hands and not just his fingers.
Personally I don't think it was Monty. Remember two things here: firstly, in the Vanny ending it takes a whole swarm of bots to disassemble Freddy, so I don't think a lone animatronic would have the strength... without a special upgrade. Which leads me to the 2nd thing: Monty didn't have the claw upgrade until after Bonnie disappeared. In fact (now, I could be totally wrong here. There might be some voice line I'm not remembering, so tell me if that's the case), I don't believe Bonnie was ever part of the band/one of the main animatronics. Think back to that one piece of artwork in Bonnie Bowl, where he's wearing a plain outfit and doesn't have any face decorations or jewellery or anything like that. We never see anything like that in any of the other animatronics games. Freddy has a space helmet in Fazer Blast, and Roxy has a different outfit and sunglasses in Roxy Raceway, but their physical appearance doesn't change. And what about the tiny stage in the ice cream parlour? That hardly seems like something a main member of the band would use. Not only is it super small, but it's pretty accessible. But anyway, that's just my theory. Tell me if I got any information wrong.
Well the notes mention that monty replaced bonnie as the base player so bonnie was on the main stage
I think its more of a combo of the two Monty getting rid of Bonnie and Vanny possibly using Bonnie's parts to repair Afton. Its been shown that Vanny can control the animatronics so who's to say that she didn't feed into Monty's jealously and convinced him to destroy Bonnie, thus allowing her to use his parts?
I love this theory melding
I agree
A couple of questions for the theorists:
1. What was Monty's role before Bonnie went missing? Seems like he already existed since they only had to do updates.
2. Why did it take so long for Bonnie to walk around the Pizzaplex?
3. Why the heck would they have Mr. Hippo play a triangle of all instruments? I mean, all instruments are dope but the Triangle feels a little less rock.
They talk about the animatronics' personalities (Roxy being competitive, Chica being a culinarian 😉) like they weren't *programmed* to be that way. If Vanny can hack them to be murderous, surely someone could lower the aggression factor on Monty, no?
1. I think that maybe they just thought golf would be a nice attraction but realized that it should have a theme and character/animatronic, sorta like the Daycare Attendant or the S.T.A.F.F Bot in Fazer Blast, they aren't a part of the band but still represent specific attractions and help guests have a fun time.
2. Maybe Bonnie's just a REALLY slow walker, or decided to spent quite a bit of time in specific locations before moving on to another
3. Considering how much personality all the animatromics have there's a none 0 chance that they gave Mr Hippo his signature 'old grandpa telling overly long stories' persona, and thus Mr Hippo would be acting like he's too frail and slow to play anything else. I'll be honest though, that theory isn't very good. It's more likely he plays the triangle because it's funny.
about number 2 i think bonnie was helping a kid to get out just like freddy and gregory, the message even said bonnie went to the east arcade, why would bonnie go to to west arcade and take a long time ( the levels and the dj mm) then bonnie entered monty golf, why would bonnie go there 1: bonnie was helping a kid get the faz cam 2: someone lured bonnie there : edit : the ending with gregory sleeping in a box we see on the newspaper missing kids, on the left bottom i think there a kid that has the same hair design as gregory, why would be kids be missing and why so many missing? The pizzaplex is like a mall lots kids go there, vanny either killed them or an animatronic did.
it's because r. hippo is a joke so much that he has the joke instrumennt
Monty was probably a drum player hints his strength but also Bonnie moving slow was probably him minding his own business he didn’t need to going quickly
i don't think i came up with this theory but- maybe there was another missing kid who tried to use bonnie to escape one night, so the same way gregory might leave freddy somewhere for a while to not waste his battery, this kid only used bonnie to get from one location to the next when they needed to be stealthy. if steel wool does decide to do a prequel dlc this would make a cool concept for it i think :D
No-one's talked about Burntrap's organic parts, particularly the skull. As we can see on Burntrap's design, his head has a full set of teeth. However, if you look back to fnaf 3, then there is a easter egg screenshot that shows William's organic head inside of Springtrap. I bring this up, because Williams original head only had a few teeth left in it. So I'm thinking that for Burntrap, Vanny kidnapped one of the employees (we know that people go missing, and it definitely looks like the head of an adult that has been used here), and used them as spare parts to help repair William.
Edit: Some people are saying that this theory is stupid, and some think it could be possible. Also, why would there still be flesh on burn traps head if it was Williams original? Flesh burns at a much lower temperature than bone does. Surely, if it was Williams original, then there would just be a burnt skull.
And Bonnie's part's imo
I think just from the tapes of vanny and her therapist. It could be the missing therapist.. cause they say in the tapes that they were missing or found dead O_O. Vanny maybe used body parts of the missing therapists.
Yeeesh! Makes enough sense too considering Springtrap should've been turned to ash at the end of fnaf 6. There shouldn't be anything organic left in him except bone maybe. They probably used another corpse for all that and had scraps of Bonnie to stitch it all together
Sprintrap always had a different look, but it was the same person. So I don't think this is the case, great theory tho, I'll give you that
@@frozarburst6350 Yeah, also I remember in the tape that it was mentioned that the found dead body of the therapist was found mangled "like a machine had torn it up". COULD THIS BE THE FAILED ATTEMPTS TO CREATE AFTON.. :O
Yeah, I think the number 2 theory might be happening where bonnie need our help to repair him, considering that steel wool had just shown us the ruin dlc where the pizzaplex had been completely withered and this means that this take place in the future after the Afton ending where the whole pizzaplex burned down and that's why it become demolished in the poster. I'm really hoping for glamrock bonnie to shine and be the player's guardian to help.
I feel like this should be mentioned, as it’s some more potential evidence that Monty maybe didn’t do it, is that we never see a normal night in the pizzaplex, and from what we know, the glam rocks finish up for the day, and then go to their green rooms and usually stay there (the reason why they are out in the game being because Gregory is there), and it would also keep up the potential that vanny maybe was the culprit here, as from the vanny ending, we see that vanny wouldn’t even NEED Monty to destroy bonnie, as she uses the staff bots to absolutely MAUL Freddy in the vanny ending, but this is just something I saw at one point, definitely possible though, this is FNaF after all, the lore of this game is so comically complicated that it’s got matpat screaming “LORE” at a knocked over trash can for gods sake
Mongomery didn't had his claws before, so he was probably weaker before, but i think it makes sense that bonnie tried to destroy him, because if it was monty, wouldn't the staff decomission monty AND fix bonnie? They can perfectly do that, they only decommission animatronics when they're gone or ''betrayed them'' (like how freddy left).
@@jackoxy9860 Hmmmm, yea, that is true, plus Bonnie in a lot of games is the most aggressive animatronic in terms of how many times he attempts to attack, though, correction on one bit, the staff bots didn’t attack Freddy because he went against them, it was because vanny used that device to order them to, the same one that Gregory uses against her in the vanny ending… granted, Freddy use to be pretty damn aggressive in previous games (Funtime freddy in general weather it be normal, molten, or count the ways all being GREAT examples of that) so who can say at the end of the day, we haven’t seen glamrock Bonnie after all… yet at least
@Pinkpony4
What if not a lot of people loved Bonnie? Bonnie's an old character while Monty is the new kid in town. People would talk about him more. Sure nostalgia exists but you'd get bored and want to see the new stuff. More people only love Bonnie now because he's gone.
I have what I think is a really good example. Idk if you play Minecraft but in the early days, there was this type of villager called the nitwit. No one carded about them. Not until they were removed. Then people say they miss the nitwit and wants them back. But once they were added back in around 2019, everyone regretted it and find them annoying. Me included admittedly. People only cared about the nitwit when they were gone.
Oh god, most of my comment is talking about Minecraft 💀
@Raptor It sounds like you said all of this in one breath
I have seen a lot of theories and most of them seem to point at Monty being the one to blame for his disappearance. It's pretty much implied in the clues the game gives us, but I really don't want to jump into a conclusion after having everything organized and probably more info.
Though, I hate how people just straight up hate Monty because he is implied to be the reason why there's not a rabbit in the PizzaPlex. My only argument could be that Glam Bonnie's disappearance might have been upset to a lot of people because it made Glam Freddy upset.
Also, THAT DESIGN LOOKS SO COOL, I love it!!
I agree with the design but I think it was Monty
Yeah, people need to look into more theories instead of sticking to just one ffs
I have no issue with Monty because of Bonnie. I dislike Monty Due to his personality, preferring Roxy.
List of favorite glam rocks
1. Bonnie
2.Roxy
3.Freddy
4.Chica
5. Monty
Yeah but he also hates Freddy too
I think Vanny did it, not Monty. If Monty wanted to be the main star, he would have lured Freddy, not Bonnie. besides, Vanny knew the disassemble button would work somehow right? not just on humans, but robots as well. I think Bonnie was the least subject before Glitchtrap in Vanessa's mind tried it on her therapists. Besides Monty was already part of the cast, or else why would he have a golf area before Bonnie was decommissioned? also, one more bit of evidence that it wasn't Monty. In that final report, we don't see it call out Monty leaving his green room, now do we? otherwise it would start off with "Monty is not in his green room." I do want the prequel DLC with Bonnie, but Monty won't kill him, Vanny will.
I think Monty is being used as a scapegoat here, I am def in the mindset with Vanny's disassemble button and Bonnie being the test run for the virus. Monty kind of gets what he wants , but I don't think he had a part in Bonnies disappearance.
But when you play the Monty's golf mini game. In the last level you can see that freddy is in the trash can and destroyed
@@ripHaHaYes (this is a repost from someone else’s reply so credits to Don Arlem) Monty’s greed is a golf mini game that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area. And it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie’s. All you have for “evidence” is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
@@ripHaHaYes (this is a repost from someone else’s reply so credits to Don Arlem) Monty’s greed is a golf mini game that was mysteriously and conveniently placed in his area. And it was NOT developed by him, nor a showcase of his subconsciousness. His aggressiveness came after they replaced his parts with Bonnie’s. All you have for “evidence” is one vague message and a hacked, virus-filled animatronic.
@@ripHaHaYes yeah. not bonnie.
Controlling Bonnie as a prequel would be interesting, and it would be cool if the timestamps from that fazwatch message actually matches up as you play
I'd like to write some more about Glamrock Bonnie here that has been in the back of my mind for days.
1. In Fury's Rage,there is a FNAF 6 level,and now we know that it was hinting at the FNAF 6 location returning in SB. But,in the FNAF 6 level we can see a graffiti saying "Bonnie was here". I don't really know what could it mean,but maybe Bonnie was brought down to the FNAF 6 location under the Pizzaplex,just like Freddy,as he says that he's been there before. But for some reason Bonnie didn't make it out.
2. In Freddy And Friends On Tour,Bonnie always acts weird. He doesn't say anything, he doesn't react to anything,and when it's his time to speak the screen just glitches. But the most important thing is that if you look closely,you can notice that Bonnie is always walking east. And we know from the SB message that Bonnie went to the east arcade before entering Monty Golf. In the second episode of the cartoon,when Bonnie is walking again,east,the screen glitches and it shows a picture of the broken Monty. Bonnie going east and after that entering Monty Golf. That cannot be a coincidence.
3. In one of the trailers,Monty says:
"You will do as i say! You will bring me what i want! And if you fail me,you will,both of you,burn!"
But we never actually hear that in the game. I wonder why was it cut,and if it has something to do with Bonnie,and Monty wanting to be the most popular.
I hope you will see this Dawko!
that wasnt monty voice man
@@cherrytis8596 who's was it? /gen
@@gghoulish-fun it was william afton voice actor, he posted an video of his line on twitter, idk if i can find it, but with searching you probably can
Fury's Rage is a spinoff game
I think Monty wasn't behind Bonnie's disapearance. Monty only began destroying things, when he was given his new claws, as stated by one of the logs. And well, the only reason he got the claws in the first place, was to play the bass because he was replacing Bonnie, meaning he began his violent spree *after* Bonnie dissapeared. Many people seem to miss this fact.
This! And the fact that Monty never wanted to be in the spotlight anyways. They mentioned that Monty never attends practice, and instead goes to his golf, which implies that he doesn’t like his position in the band and just wants to play some golf. Which completely contradicts the claim that Monty destroyed Bonnie to be popular. I think the DLC will show the reason for Bonnie’s disappearance.
@@chrisa.4292 Im somehow suprised that they do practices. I alwats thought that they just were added data on the songs that were recorded for them and just follow it.
@@shook_mug3786 I actually made a mistake… It wasn’t practice, it was the actual performances, I double checked the message that said so. My bad 🙃
I personally don't think Monty killed Bonnie, it's ... very easy, very predictable. It's "Foxy did the bite of 1987" all over again.
Most likely, Steel Wool will give us a last-second plot twist, leaving Monty as innocent or, at the very least, an indirect culprit.
Now here’s what I think: I think yeah, it’s going to be someone else, but Monty still feels like he is going to be a jerk in the end, still trying to get the spotlight.
I hope so
Personally, yes it's predictable, but they could delve into the why in a much more deeper way about how Monty WANTED to be in the spotlight, how he has always wanted to be number one
Yes, it can be predictable, but why is being predictable a bad thing if it's still good and there are elements within the predictable thing that are still surprising?
i think there's still a chance that monty did decommission bonnie
since it's no longer scott working on this game
your theory is not far out though
Here’s a theory: the endoskeleton in parts in services that stands in the corner malfunctioning is Glamrock Bonnie’s? Maybe Monty was only able to destroy the casing rather than the full endo as well. Maybe the endoskeleton was saved for a future revamped Glamrock Bonnie return.
I feel like the prequel DLC you described would likely explain Bonnie's movements described in the MISSING message. I think it would be very cool to see what happened in between the points mentioned in the message.
It would be great if the DLC was a whole night like what if Gregory is the one who killed Bonnie and we have to decommission Bonnie in the DLC
Yea, maybe we could play as Bonnie and see what happend.
@@Cvrtoon2494 Ooh, that sounds really cool!
Another theory I saw is that Bonnie was Afton's beta test. He hasn't controlled the animatronics like this before, functioning as a virus. So he took over bonnie and was controlling him to test things out and in the process, Bonnie became withered and broken down (the same way the other ones are throughout the night when they appear to be under that control). The erratic behavior and decomposition lead to him being decommissioned.
I also wonder if Bonnie may have been being used to get kids. There were several children missing already and if fazbear entertainment found out Bonnie was responsible for them (Or even a hint that a bunny is luring the kids away), they may have decommissioned him. It would also explain why they're trying to remove any remaining sign of him.
I like this theory, because if Monty disassembled Bonnie to become popular, why wouldn't he disassemble Freddy instead? And additionally, if the staff found out that Monty had destroyed Bonnie, they would probably decommission Monty due to aggression.
@@kitsune967 Same with me
Because if he disassembled Freddy, Bonnie likely would have taken over, being the next most popular character
It makes sense really, and I like the theory.
Gonna be honest, I feel like a DLC including more of the scrapped story would be great, it would help out the game story wise and would make things less confusing for the player, or just have that as a free DLC/update with a prequel DLC afterwards
Love all the theories thrown around Monty! which reminds me, wasn't there a note that specifies how Monty started being aggressive after receiving the claws upgrade, which is meant to enable him to play the bass? I figure he was less dangerous before that. Then again there are no notes regarding him prior to having his claws. I think.
Yeah, so there are no notes referring to Monty before the claw upgrade. I think he may have had claws before, but not ones that he could play bass with.
Like I imagine that he had claws, but they were super flimsy and only existed for cosmetic reasons. And then when he became bassist he got new ones that are stronger.
I honestly think that if it WAS Monty who destroyed Bonnie, it was by the command of Vanessa. There's a lot of things that just don't add up for me like Monty's destructive claws not being added till AFTER being promoted to bass-player, the fact that they so happened to promote Monty rather than destroy him since he's so aggressive and dangerous and destroyed an already popular character, and the fact that Monty Golf being the last place Bonnie was seen just seems a little TOO obvious. I have no doubt that Monty may be the jealous type, especially of Freddy, but I don't think he in his right mind would do something so stupid that could result in him being decommissioned. I still think Vanny was behind it somehow. I think Bonnie made a discovery and knew too much, or he was uncontrollable, and she just took him out of the picture.
I agree
The mention of Glamrock Bonnie really got me off guard in the game, I hope to see him one day :’)
We were robbed :')
Also GlamFred being sad about losing Bonnie actually made me cry lmao
It's interesting to say the least, it would be awesome to have a dlc dedicated to Bonnie, also I noticed that in Monty's boss battle he tends to jump really high and land near you, do you think that might be Bonnie's special upgrade?
That’s actually really interesting
That could be true
Could be true
So,he stealed his feet too? idk.
His feet are purple
so Maybe??
As much as I wanna know what happened to Bonnie, I’m more curious to know abt Foxy.
We have SOME details and implications for Bonny-mentions in the actual game, Easter eggs, etc. We don’t get anything on Foxy other than the acknowledgment that he has existed through Pirates Cove stuff.
Fun fact: Vanny's secret hideout has a door, which you can't open but with cheats when you go through it, it leads to Bonnie's Bowl. Let me know your theories.
No way. This changes everything.
I really miss Bonnie, but I have mixed feelings, and mixed opinions on if Monty killed Bonnie or not, so let’s see how this video goes.
I think why Monty is so aggressive is that he actually feels guilt about killing Bonnie… almost like a type of PTSD. The guilt is eating him up therefore he lashed out to avoid resolving the guilt.
I don't understand how everyone is missing this. The ending shows Afton or Glitch Trap emerging wearing a burned bunny animatronic. That's Glam Rock Bonnie. He was using Vanny to hack the systems and the animatronics so he could take over and resurrect himself. I think Freddy is likely Henry, that's why he says he misses Bonnie like that when he sees his closed stage. He's lamenting the fact that Afton and he were once friends and it all started with them in Freddy and Bonnie costumes entertaining kids. He misses his friend and is upset he's turned into the monster he is now. Monty, like you said, has a personality but he's being screwed with and controlled by Afton and Vanny. Just like Foxy crying in her room. Afton is driving them crazy by what he's doing to them and the people that run the company are just trying to figure out what's happening and rolling with the punches of losing animatronics.
It doesn't make sense that Monty killed Bonnie unless he was tampered with by Vannesa, it's so stupid 😂
@@xI-MIKE-Ix in the golf mini game it shows monty's true desire he wants to be the band leader because freddy is in the trash and monty was the most aggresive plus bonnie went into monty's golf and never was seen and also they each have their own personalities they can have guilt and jealousy
@@mayothemayo4958 how do u know he didn't want to be leader and the OWNER of the pizza plax throw Freddy out?
@@1untamedbrain Burn Trap is literally using the Glamrock Bonnie parts. Vanny probably gave him the virus and lured him out. Or something like that. I also don’t understand why people don’t get it
11:28 When I saw this endoskeleton while playing the game, I had the exact same theory. It's an active endo, who does moves that look like performance moves, and he seems happy and all, and Bonnie looks like a happy guy
My theory: looking back at the Freddy and friends episodes, you can see that in one episode whenever it cuts to Bonnie, a glitch is formed. People have tied these glitches to glitch trap by re-arranging the glitches into a picture. So, it seems glitchtrap has something to do with either the Freddy and friends episodes- OR he is the reason Bonnie is missing, and this is steal wools way of hinting it towards us.
But Bonnie went Missing. They never said he was destroyed they said he went missing in the first note. Besides why would Monty want to take Bonnies place for fame if he skipped performances? For someone who wants fame wouldn’t you want to attend them? And also, he didn’t have the claws till after Bonnie was gone, meaning he didn’t really have the strength he does now.
I like to think that he was investigating the little kids disappearances since at one of the locations he went to there Was a fire exit, aka: an escape route one Freddy suggests. Bonnie also the most aggressive one in the games so if anyone were to be the first to investigate into it, it’d be him. He just got caught up and things and then destroyed by Vanny and put his parts into the big mold thing at the end
I hope if the DLC does have a bad ending it actually means something. I just hope it’s not entirely depressing and instead whatever happens genuinely impacts the story overall.
That would mean either the bad ending is the canon ending or that it gives good information to the story
What is dlc mean?💀
@@opp_XD Downloadable Content…? How long have you been on the internet dawg 😭
wait theres gonna be dlc to security breach?
@@eggflavouredegg02 yes
Damn, this is pretty cool. Your theory makes so much sense and you explained all your reasoning to make alot of connections. They need to make a DLC off of your theory!
I think people keep missing that the reason freddy wasnt taken over was because he was booted up in safe mode and thus cut of from the main network, he even says as much in the opening cutscene.
My theory:
Glamrock Bonnie was a benevolent AI like Freddy, and he tried to either save someone from Vanny or got suspicious of the strange activity. He went to investigate (or got lured) to Gator Golf, where he fell for a trap and got torn apart so badly he couldn't be rebuilt.
Honestly, I wanna play as one of the animatronics in a DLC
TW:spoilers for ending in sb
yeahh it reminds me of one of the endings where freddy is torn apart by the help bots
Is no one gonna talk about how it took Bonnie 2hrs & 16 min to leave his room and go to the East Arcade... And then another 1hr 32min to enter Monty Golf. In total 3hrs 48min just to go some place that took Gregory like 5 - 10 min just to get there...
Could be that Bonnie was haunted by Henry too. He died in the room below the mall, and Freddy is suspected to be Michael Afton
@@Overlordd_d Eh, saying he was possessed is a stretch. For one, Ennard and Molten Freddy shouldn't have been functional but look what they did.
I personally don't believe any of the Glamrocks are or ever were posssessed. It totally undoes what Pizza Sim did and is pretty cliche at this point.
My personal theory on Glamrock Bonnie:
I believe Monty didn’t “decommission” Bonnie, my evidence being that Monty wasn’t upgraded until after Bonnie went missing. I also believe Bonnie was the animatronic mentioned in the cds that mauled the technicians/therapists after Vanny hacked him. This would also support the theory that Burntrap was remade with Bonnie’s parts. (Also due to Burntrap no longer missing a hand)
But where was Monty before Bonnie went missing? I believe he was in Fazer Blast as the preshow in instead of the staff bot. Tbh using a staff bot for fazer blast seems rushed, and the stage seems to big for just one staff bot. Also that could explain why Monty would need adjustments.
Other theories:
-Bonnie is just wandering around the pizzaplex (He was already missing he just last seen going in GGolf)
-Monty just found his shades one day on the floor or something
-Bonnie’s the reason the elevator is almost broken (he went over weight limit with Vanny)
-He’s in the Blob as the bonnie arm sticking out.
-The Blob is just UCN which explains why FT freddy isn’t in UCN since he was kinda runnin the show with Gold fred
Edit: other theories, changing some words and more evidence
Yeah right ft Is twill alive
That is also a possibility
@@darthman9139 cuz all unc bots are destroyed bots and ft isnt
I don't think Bonnie helped Vanny in any way. He doesn't seem to be one to do that. Personally i think Bonnie was like Freddy.
@@Bonniethebunny While that would make sense in why Glamrock Freddy would miss him, Glamrock Freddy could still be hacked by Burntrap and he would attack Gregory on low power, so it could be a possibility he was hacked. We can only wait and see about the fate of Bonnie.
Some people I’ve talked to about this thought that Monty Gator _IS_ Glamrock Bonnie, but got wrecked/decommissioned and got rebuilt as Monty Gator, which is why he goes crazy and trashed his dressing room and other parts of the Pizzaplex.
If Afton transferred himself into Glamrock Bonnie he could walk around during open hours and kill kids on his own too. He can’t be walking around and overseeing his plans looking like he does as Burntrap. Bonnie would need to be taken out of commission and disassembled/services in preparation for the transfer. Plus if Bonnie acted differently upon return from it’s temporary decommission that could excuse the different behavior.
The problem with a future DLC is that every ending involves Gregory & Freddy leaving, but I guess returning to save Bonnie could be a reason they'd return? Obviously it doesn't take place after the bad/fire/vanny endings because Freddy or Gregory get wrecked, the good ending leaving via the loading dock involves just getting away from the pizzaplex, and the Afton ending seems to be just Gregory & Freddy getting out of there; I will admit the Afton ending seems like the most likely, and it is the canon ending, so I guess it's possible.
The princess quest ending is the cannon one.
@@nathanlopez6545 do You have proof?
I think it should take place after the Mr. Hippo ending. They go back to save Bonnie, the Monty, Roxy, and Chica are all repaired, they find a way to free them from the hack, and we get to see Glamrock Mr. Hippo.
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I doubt it, Nathan. Gregory goes up there with the goal of stopping Vanny, and plays a video game instead?
This actually makes a lot of sense. If you remember in one of the trailers, Monty said “you will bring me what I want, and if you fail, then you, both of you, will burn.” Maybe he was talking to Roxy and Chica, or someone else. This explains Monty’s desire to be on top. I would also love to see a prequel DLC with Bonnie.
That wasn't Monty, that was a cut line for Afton.
@@silverboltscrapper Doesn't sound like Afton.
@@mcnuggwtscreations They recasted him, that's why. Not sure why they did that but they did it.
The closest sense in the DLC might be in the past, to where you control the missing kid that meets Bonnie, who then tries to help, and then it leads up the the next night (or Hense the day/Night Gregory gets involved with Freddy)
I saw a theory that Bonnie may have been one of the first animatronics to come under the "possession" of Glitchtrap. They thought Bonnie's movement log was a trajectory Glitchtrap-possessed Bonnie made. It just seems strange to mention Bonnie's movement unless the animatronics weren't supposed to be roaming at night. From what I remember Bonnie only went to Gator Golf, not Fazer blast, or Roxy raceway. Maybe originally they were supposed to roam in their own location at night and not go anywhere else.
What if Monty somehow recognized that something was wrong with Bonnie and attacked him not because he wanted to usurp the animatronic as the new base player, but because he was wanting to protect the Pizzaplex? That might make sense why they scrapped Bonnie's design and put Monty in the band. Bonnie's software was corrupted and Monty wasn't (yet). But. Because the technicians didn't fix the glitch in the system, it eventually took over the other animatronics?
Idk. Just a random thought while watching this.
But then why is freddy in a trash can in montys gator golf,he wants so much attention,and this is probaly aftons doing just do get Bonnie's body for himself
@@Americanboii I don’t think it’s anything with Monty, imagine he spent his time building the whole corse 😀
The company might be like : oh yeah let’s do some fking drama between these animatronics
@@chaipatsuebsai-on7960 lol yeah that makes sense!
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I would also think a prequel would be a good idea! But next to Bonnie, we haven’t really seen a lot of Vanny. Even though she was made to be the main villain for security breach. I really want to see more of Vanny in the dlc.
I really hope we see Glamrock Bonnie eventually! I’ve seen some really amazing fanart and I’d love to see some official art/a model!! 💜
Bonnies my favorite character in the entire franchise, and it’s such a bummer I didn’t see him in the game.
Alright, here's a thought about why Vanny might have wanted Bonnie gone and replaced with Montgomery. What if Bonnie, like Freddy, couldn't be fully hacked, and ended up meddling with her plans despite her attempts at hijacking him? If she needed to take over the Pizzaplex animatronics quickly so she could move forward with some plan, it wouldn't be ideal to spend ages trying to control an animatronic that wouldn't get controlled. If Monty had ended up being easier to hack, there may have been a point where she decided that it was better to dismantle Bonnie both due to him being a loose end and maybe because he'd seen too much, so she had Monty do the job so he could take his place. Pure speculation, but I wouldn't be shocked if it went something like that.
Maybe she didn't know about Freddy being immune to it and she assumed it would work? I doubt that but maybe that glitched got him into security breach mode which negated Vanny's control but Bonnie was completely unhackable or.... what if Bonnie was literally the firewall.... Bonnie could have had the code protecting the Glamrocks from hacks meaning if he died then the rest would guarantee to fall
YES. Ive been saying this since day one honestly. Im so glad others actually agree. Everyone pins it on monty and completely forget the basis of this game haha. Leave Monty Alone.
That's poetic in a way, lol. Considering that Bonnie and Freddy were the first incarnations of the animatronics.
I think Monty's been set up to take the fall in case there's ever too many questions about what Really happened to Bonnie. If Monty really was so envious of Bonnie's position in the band, then why would Bonnie ever just wander into Monty Golf alone? Monty's not subtle at all about how he feels, and, frankly, isn't that bright, either. It makes no sense to me. Monty also didn't get those claws that allow him to destroy things until after they tapped him as the new bass player. How did he destroy Bonnie without them? Why would the people who built Monty Golf put up a fake dumpster with an effigy of their biggest star and most popular animatronic sitting in it? Why did Monty get his own area before before becoming a band member? If having the area is what got him the position (being already recognizable to kids), then why do they put Mr. Hippo into the band instead of El Chip?
When Vanessa threatens Freddy, she doesn't talk about decommissioning him permanently, but rather about Monty taking over Temporarily, "until Parts & Service can slap his case on a new endo", and I think the key lies in that phrase. The endoskeletons' programming and training is being hijacked by Vanessa/Vanny and Afton now that she's moved in, and she's gradually replacing the old, friendly and helpful endoskeletons with new ones that are programmed to kidnap and kill children. If they get possessed, gain sentience, misbehave, etc, they get ripped out, scrapped (the blob, maybe?), and replaced. Something so terrible happened to Bonnie that his casing couldn't be salvaged, and I really don't think Monty could've done it without his claws.
Vanny doesn't need Monty, she needs the staff bots to clean up the mess. Monty destroys staff bots for a reason. He witnessed them killing Bonnie.
..... makes sense and the remains could have created Burntrap I mean look at the injuries some of Glamrock Bonnie's parts wouldn't be salvageable or entirely fixed so she went with what she had and created Burntrap's suit? I mean you look at Glamrock Freddy after being dismantled with them being stopped imagine Glamrock Bonnie getting a similar treatment with it not stopping at all..... Who knows what could happen to them I mean Freddy died from it looking like that and it wasn't even the full course imagine if Bonnie went through the full course of being dismantled.... wait... Or in an attempt to get Bonnie's body Vanny sends the staff bots to get it only for Monty to take them down and hide them in his room then hide Bonnie knowing that he may not be able to trust anyone as he could know that someone in the management wanted Bonnie gone personally meaning that his friends may want to do the same to Bonnie so he hides Bonnie's body and the staff bots and roughed up his room so much people are too scared to get the staffbot meaning they cant give up any info to Vanny like for example where Monty hid Bonnie's body for example I mean we don't know what happened to that body and we see Bonnie enter Monty's golf course
Here is how I believe the scenario went
Glamrock Bonnie runs into Montys golf in an attempt to hid from the Staffbots. Monty sees a scared Bonnie and tries to find out what happened only to see the staffbots jump Bonnie and begin dismantling him. Monty to protect his friend runs in and anmilates them. Bonnie then asks to hide somewhere so Monty offers an area that he uses a lot when he hides which is his cat walks. He then hides Bonnie somewhere up there where no one would look for him then he stays up there a lot to guard Bonnie
The theory makes perfect sense. The daycare attendent does not have a green room. Bonnie likely had one and monty didnt. The signs could be a cover for construction to keep the realistic illusion alive during the construction to convert it to montys room. Monty may not be happy about having a hand me down which would explain why its trashed.
Well the daycare attendant kinda did. The secret pirate cutout Easter egg leads to what we can assume is his green room. But it was probably closed due to the fact that Mr. Daycare Attendant scares off his audience. I think this supports your theory though because Monty would probably be outraged at the fact that even the Daycare Attendant has a green room and he isn’t even a part of the band.
Steel wool/scott in the background be like: ha! Too excitable let's make a new character and use freddy just by himself for the DLC mattera fact make it a moon land DLC we need to be unexpected
I hope Steel Wool actually makes the DLC that Dawko describes. I would love to know what really happened to Glamrock Bonnie.
Something I'd like to add to the DLC idea:
Passive Moon. As Dawko mentioned, Vanny just entered the pizzaplex to hack the animatronics. Many people beleive Moon's programming was hacked by Vanny, therefore making him go after Gregory. It would be lovely to see Moon just being passive, see if his voice would change, ect.
And now, I have a theory. Stay if you wish.
Sun knew Moon was acting up for a while, so he insisted the lights stay on as to not provoke Moon and so the children will stay safe. If Moon's programming was hacked, this would make sense. This would also somewhat explain why, in game, he's trying to keep Gregory in one spot so he can't turn off the lights. Using distractions to save the child. I think Sun banning Gregory from the daycare is to make sure he doesn't get hurt again, but Moon can roam the plex anyway. Or Sun really does love following rules, and lights on was a new rule.
Wait I forgot he alerts the animatronics, revealing your location-
He probably believes they can help you-
Tbh this was really pulling at loose strings. Prob gon' remove it idk
Never really theorised something before so-
Hope this was okay- ^^
yeah I'd love to see a moon but actually nice
Actually this makes sense. Even though Sun and Moon share a body, they don't seem to share the same programming. Their voices are different, they have different ways of moving, and seemingly different personalities. They must share some traits, likely ones programed into them because of their job as the Daycare Attendant (the cleaning, and likely some form of caring, compassion, etc.), but based on their reactions to it, their personalities do seem to be separate. Based on the fact that they switch based on external stimuli, it makes sense that if Vanny took Eclipse (my name for Sun and Moon's shared body and their System, as with people with DID) down to Afton's hideout to be hacked as Freddy says the others were, Moon would HAVE to be fronting (in control) because of how dark it is down there--since even shining a flashlight directly in Moon's face doesn't get him to switch back.
Sun must have known Moon was compromised, especially after he scared the child mentioned in the Night Terrors message. So, trying to keep Gregory distracted, away from anything that could turn off the lights--so the compromised Moon wouldn't be able to switch--but happy, too. I think he banned Gregory to keep him safe from themselves, and called security because, in any other case, security would be able to keep Gregory safe, and so would the other animatronics. Since Freddy didn't remember being down in Afton's lair until he was back down there, it follows that Sun wouldn't know that the others were compromised, or how--he only knows that Moon is 'malfunctioning,' and since he can't leave the Daycare to see the others acting strangely.
I would love a Daytime DLC from before all of this happened--so we can see Glamrock Bonnie, maybe Glamrock Foxy, too* all and see what all of them acted like before Gltichtrap was added into the systems. They could polish up the Monty Golf Minigame (possibility with the actual map instead of as an arcade?), finish implementing the Bonnie Bowl Minigame, maybe a Roxy Raceway one where we actually use the track, some sort of Freddy Minigame, a visit to the Daycare where we see Moon acting as intended (because there is no way in William Afton's Animatronic Hell that a company that's trying to clean up it's image is programming a 'naptime' robot to act like THAT--even if the animatronics are sentient AI, you still have to program AI), more arcades, and more. It'd make use of the huge map they've created--and hopefully give them time to fix all of the bugs and add bad in the scrapped content because good god there is a lot cut from this game.
Hey, if you want to make it connect with the lore, we could play as one of the kids Vanny kills to help get Glitchtrap a physical body. We know there have been several missing persons, so hey, why not play as a soon-to-be-murdered kid?
*Tangent, but seriously, where is Foxy? We get a pseudo-explanation for Bonnie's absence but WHERE IS FOXY? He's got an area that's sort-of themed around him--Kid's Cove--and he, along with Freddy, are the ONLY two animatronics that have always had an iteration in each of the sets. All four appear in the Classics, the Toys--although Toy Foxy was partially destroyed, they were still present; in the Phantom lineup Bonnie was absent, although within the game one could suppose Springtrap was the Bonnie, within the Nightmares all four are present, within the Funtimes Foxy has two animatronics if you count Lolbit, and so does Freddy if you count Yenndo, but Bonnie lacks a stand-alone animatronic, instead having Bon-Bon and Bonnet--even Chica got a Funtime later in the series; the Twisted set from the books has all four and a new wolf, the Rockstars are complete, the only set without foxy is the Shadows (yes, they are canon) who are also missing Chica. Maybe I'm just a critic, but I think it's weird that Foxy is gone without a trace. And, seeing as him and Bonnie are the Fan-favourites, its a weird choice.
@@titansrift3885 He was replaced by Roxy
@@FrostFire425 yes, he was, but why? For Bonnie it's been assumed from things the game implies that he WAS around until something happened--whether that be Monty decommissioning him or Vanny using his endo to repair the remains of Scraptrap--it doesnt particularly matter what happened, but we know he was there. With Foxy, it's not even clear there ever WAS a Glamrock Foxy to complete the set. In Kid's Cove, there's not a stage like in Bonnie Bowl, and while it's pirate themed, it's not Foxy themed quite like Mazercize is.
The most logical conclusion I can think of would be that both Bonnie and Monty were test hacks Vanny performed to make sure she'd have control of the glamrocks. After all Bonnie moving all around the pizzaplex at night seems a bit odd, she may have tested if they'd respond to orders like attacking other robots. That might be why Monty done it, he still would have the usual temper issues.
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I think, more accuratly, a Glamrock Endoskeleton was used because the Spring Bonnie endoskeleton that Springlocked William in FNaF 3 would be around 40 if not 50 years old by this point. There's no way that thing's going to be compatible with a charging station.
@@michaelc.8712 plus, if the spring bonnie endoskeleton was replaced with a glamrock one, why and how, would there be a corpse in there still?
Vanny using glamrock bonnie parts to rebuild Afton makes a tone of sense especially considering how modern the endoskeleton looks and how it also has parts that were missing in previous springtrap iterations. Also Vanny is no stranger to having animations "disassemble" others.
Theory: Monty's greenroom is possibly in off limits due to renovations because it used to be Bonnie's room, explaining the loud noises which people think is Monty
You can enter his room later in the game without glitches or mods and see all his stuff knocked over and broken.
@@AbusiveExclusive Ah - it's possibly cuz i've never looked so long in the playtrough, thanks for saying, quite interesting too
On top of what they said, you can very clearly hear Monty's grunts, barks, and growls while he is destroying stuff.
There are many disagreements with a theory that Monty actually decommissioned Bonnie. Of course in the message there was mentioned that Bonnie was last seen at Monty Golf but they didn't mentioned that Monty was around this area. I don't even believe Monty would be that cruel towards Bonnie, because Freddy mentioned Gregory that his friends would never hurt anyone, which means, even if Monty would destroy Bonnie probably would do that because he was in that moment infected by Glichtrap
Carrying on with the idea of a prequel, there's this really cool series called 'Vanessa: Into Madness' by NightCove_theFox here on RUclips. I really recommend it! It shows the life of Vanessa before and during her descent into becoming Vanny. It's really well made and executes some popular theories really well :)
Matpat as actually did a really nice theory video on this one. It all comes down to the hands. Only bass players have claws. Because they need them to play the strings. If you pay attention, Afton and Monty are the only two endos to have claws. It's actually what allows Freddy later to break down gates once Monty has been decommissioned.
My own personal theory is that Vanny got rid of Bonnie through Montgomery because she wanted to draw less attention to a rabbit character walking around the place because she uses a rabbit suit. Less interesting, more reasonable.
A set of attacks, between william's control and Vanny? I love that.
I could be wrong about this, but wasn't Monty given his claw upgrade to play the bass? So he may not have necessarily been able to destroy Bonnie with his old claws
A couple theories I had to do with this subject;
I think that Freddy might hate Monty for what he supposedly did to Bonnie, as when you take Monty's claws, Freddy doesn't pry any further when Gregory says he'd rather not say where he got them. Even though he can tell the voicebox you install into him is Chica's, and seems distressed when he finds out you gave him Roxy's eyes, he doesn't bat an eye at the green and purple claws that look exactly like Monty's being installed onto him. I think there's no way he doesn't know they're Monty's claws, and he's just indifferent to it due to Monty taking out Bonnie.
Another thing, I think if Bonnie's destruction wasn't Vanny's doing, Bonnie may have went to Monty's golf course to talk with him about his jealousy. Monty wouldn't have had a green room in Rockstar Row, so Bonnie would have to go to Monty Golf to talk to Monty, and if Monty's jealousy was a concern to Bonnie, he might have wanted to talk it out.
freddy missing bonnie is so sad
love the character development
Can we just appreciate how Dawko is always happy when he uploads
I would personally agree a lot more with the Idea of Bonnie and Freddy Being close and a problem for Vanny. Most of the reasons for Monty being the way he is and wanting the spotlight could lend creedence to this theory too since If Freddy and Bonnie are Alike then Of course Monty would want to get rid of both of them to be the star because he's been tampered with, both of their endoskeletons are a problem & Vanny could simply give him that motivation. The Log showing Bonnie Wandering More gives Implication that he was snooping around the place at night looking for answers, and why would he go into Monty golf in the first place then? Espicially if Bonnie Knew how Aggressive Monty tends to be. I think theyre both right, Yes Monty was most likely the person who dissambled Bonnie or maybe Vanny got staff bots to do it, but the reason that was done was because Freddy either rubbed off on Bonnie or was simply like him in AI being more complex or having a spirit in him or something that made him much more difficult to manipulate. Bonnie may have regularly left his greenroom in order to see what Vanny was up to at night, but getting caught Alone would eventually lead to his decomissioning.
I would defintley love to see something done with Bonnie even if he doesn't appear directly I'd like the mystery surrounding him to be Solved and for Freddy to get some closure with him old friend.
Yeah I agree with your idea here. I really think that Vanny did the “disassemble Bonnie” command on her staff bots.
I also think vanny was the main culprit in Bonnie disappearance. I think maybe she convinced Monty to help her and she make sure he replace Bonnie in the band. It is strongly believe Monty glasses were actually Bonnie glasses. I think vanny wanted Bonnie out of the way because he was snooping around too much.
5:26 Now that you mention it, Most of Monty's artwork had him without the glasses. Could that be a sign of a swap out on short notice?
I like the idea of a prequel dlc, since it would be very much show not tell, but repairing bonnie would be more telling of what happened than showing.
Imagine a prequel DLC playing as Glamrock Bonnie ! I don't think Monty destroyed Glamrock Bonnie, but it's possible and sounds logic with all the evidences ! I prefered the theory of Super Horror Bro.
Dawko should be more appreciated from all his hard work
I really wish we could see the official Glamrock Bonnie design. The art featured does an amazing job at showing what he would look like!
I kind of have an idea to add onto this. Reasoning behind Montgomery destroying his green room is that it wasn't originally his green room but rather bonnie's hence why he's so adamant on destroying it rather then any other room in the game (aside from the gates). Plus it also explains why we don't see bonnie's green room, its simply just remodelled for Montgomery.
I feel as though that the reason Freddy cannot be 'hacked into' is because of his malfunction on stage. Vanessa mentions to him that he has been put on 'low power mode' and therefore his safety functions may not be on. The same safety functions that may force the other animatronics to pursue Gregory and capture him. Vanessa mentioning his low power mode may just be to explain why he must charge after every hour, but i feel there is more to it than just that.
I think so too. It's the only reason that makes sense considering all the animatronics would have more or less the same lines of code.
It's the opposite, the others aren't in Safe Mode which is why they're dangerous for Gregory, whereas because of Freddy glitches out he automatically rebooted into Safe Mode.
I LOVE the prequel dlc idea!! One thing - in the VANNY endings, she disassembles Freddy beyond repair so quickly and easily…like she’s done it before. I’m convinced that Bonnie was also disassembled in this way, and the kid just wasn’t as lucky as Gregory was
I think there was a thread of a plot that wasn't quite present in the final release. My impression from the trailers and teasers and such seem to point towards Monty being the animatronic that Glitchtrap had a firm hand in controlling early in his presence in the pizzaplex. That's the energy he gives off with Roxanne and Chica, and we get a pretty firm implication that he took out Bonnie too, as well as his fantasy of taking out Freddy. If he was the first to be touched by Glitchtrap, it would make sense for William to strongly reinforce Monty's fury and desire to be a part of the main show - he could have empowered and emboldened Monty into destroying Bonnie so that Will could have a hand in control of one of the main acts of the show. I think that it may have been slightly opportunistic in that sense, where Glitchtrap first "snags" Monty and decides it's far easier to simply have Monty scrap Bonnie and replace him than it would be to try to hop from a side character into one of the busy main rockstars. Vanny was probably instrumental to the decision of making Monty part of the band for that reason, too, assisting in the spread of Glitchtrap's influence from just the arcades to the entirety of the system.
I would love to see two dlcs for Security Breach; the 'Ruins' dlc, and a prequel dlc. I would also like to know what happened to Glamrock Foxy, or Captain Foxy.
I have to disagree with this and not because I side with Monty: Freddy himself has stated (To Gregory in Parts in Service) that none of his friends are capable of hurting anyone since it's not part of their programming. This is further evidenced by the fact none of the current animatronics (Except maybe Freddy cuz of possibly Michael lmao) are possessed either so there is no official reason for them to be able to cause harm. Vanny is honestly the only reason they started to hurt Gregory and yes I do agree that Monty was upset that Freddy ruined the show and while he is aggressive, there was no other reasons of him causing harm. I do like your theory but I'm betting this is all due to Vanny though and hopefully in the upcoming DLC we'll get our answer. I'm okay with either though!
I absolutely love Dawko's idea of a prequel DLC because after the random missing kid get's killed by Vanny they could end up possessing Glamrock Freddy which would explain why GLamrock Freddy wants to help Gregory so much, because he wants to be the Glamrock Bonnie to Gregory.
I think if anything, he'd be possessed by an adult. If not, then he'd be a friend, and not Papa Bear
@@TheIce_Demon there's also the theory that G.R Freddy is Possessed by Micheal Afton
Isnt there a theory that freddy is Michael afton and gregory is crying child. I mean would make sense since the fnaf 6 fire didn’t kill any of the animatronics
10:29 maybe the reason was because Vanny wanted Monty to be in the band so he could get out of Monty's Golf and to the other areas.
Allow me to explain myself:
-Monty is the most aggressive and strong of the two
- by what we've seen Bonny was probably softer in nature like Freddy.
- The main band animatronics can go everywhere in the mall and are rented in parties.
So Vanny knowing all this probably hacked Monty and used him. The fact that they added the claws update was a nice bonus because Bonnie wouldn't have been aggressive enough to cause trouble on purpose but Monty is. Monty breaking stuff around the mall isn't suspicious at all. She probably used the Glamrock personalities against them.
What if Vanny, when she hacked Monty, gave him like a God complex or something that made him want to be the star so he would destroy Bonnie? Monty would be to blame, not Vannessa/Vanny and she could've said "it'd be cheaper just to have him stay gone instead of replacing him" so they saved money by not repairing/replacing him. Idk just food for thought