Preparing a Stallion to Meet Mares Whilst Driving (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In this video, our student Nuri, a part-bred Arab stallion is on his way to meet some mares - but not in the way he'd probably prefer! We are working towards having him behave himself like a gentleman whilst being driven past a field of loose horses, including mares. It is quite a challenge for him on top of all the other driving things he has to learn, but Cloud is there alongside him to show him the ropes and keep him on the straight and narrow.
This is the first part of the drive, watch out for the second part coming soon!
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It's so funny, Baz. I've had stallions come to me to be broken to ride after the only interaction with other horses is when they were servicing a mare. They come off the float, (TRAILER), with 2 chains on. 1 over their nose over the nose band of their halter, and the other through their mouth over their top gum, being led very gingerly by 2 grooms. But when they left, it was with 1 lead line clipped under the chin. I use rubber bits as well. And I don't put up with the shenanigans either. I say That'll do!! Thank you, that works very well, when they start to buck or want to rear. But, it's the tone of voice that matters, and when you say it. As well as what you are doing while riding or driving in training, that gets you the horse that is well behaved. That hated word of DISCIPLINE comes to mind. We have discipline, horses have discipline in a herd, we are their herd, and we have to be the Alpha of this 2 horse herd. Or they will run right over us. Just my thoughts and opinions. Your friend, the Retired Paramedic and Horse Trainer in Ontario, Canada, Jenn 💖 🇨🇦
My horse "Dancer" makes a long noise
when he knows that it's about to hurt,
like a karate fighter,
and then he no longer feels pain.
Then speak to him in a firm voice
could help.
But now he is much more friendly
I gues it is because his leadinghorse "Stubborn"
is much more trustfull and relaxed as
it was.
You have a wealth of knowledge!!!! Thankyou for sharing with those of us that are lacking
@user-oh8vg1ld3l You're welcome. Both myself and Barry love to share our information with people who will learn something from it. I wish you a great weekend ahead!! Jenn 💖
what I am noticing is that the pole is self supporting, it isn't hanging on the chains... I like that
All our poles are sprung poles (floating regardless of if there is a horse attached) rather than drop poles, yes.
He’s a bonny boy. And what a super star Cloud is. ❤
He looks a handful..lovely colour though..and good old cloud the master..thanks Barry .
Nuri is going beautifully!!
Especially, considering that he's a Four Year Old Stallion!!
I agree that at 4 yrs,
~ that some time off ,,,
to help him with Consolidating what he's Learned, just like children, needing time to digest lessons!!
Cloud is a Diamond too,
and very patient when Nuri is getting into his space!!
Thank you, Rhi and Barry,
very much for sharing,
so much with us here again!!! ❤️
Im absolutely Looking forward to seeing Nuri developing into a safe, confidence and happy driving Horse!!
Thank you Barry, Rhi and Team!!
I'm Early Today, so Now I'm going to Watch and Listen!!❤
Barry, you are doing all the right things 👍with your young stallion 🐴 They need to know how to behave with mares regardless of what they are doing, and whether the mares are in heat or not.
Just got back from a two hour trip with my Shetland pony. My Shetland has an ego like he is a Belgian drafthorse and when we pass any kind of pasture with other horses he goes to think he is a stallion to.....😂 He is pumping himself up and start to neigh a little bit. But after a Ohj stop it, your not a stallion you nidwit he stops and walks further❤ He Is a character so to speak. But he always listen also if find something scary when I say it is al good he does everything I ask him to do. Love my big ego Shetland pony.
It's funny Barry, as you go past the houses, I'm thinking Ol Joe lived there. Mrs so and so lived there. Mr Trodd lived there. That was where Mrs Jewmar lived your just about to go past the old shop which Mrs Morgan lived. My nan lived in Greenwich cottage, until it got too big so she moved to 8 Winchester Corner, I was a young girl, I'd say younger than 5 when the move was done. Then You went past what was then, Dancing Ledge which cllr and Mrs Morgan owned. My aunt worked for the for them until she retired. She now lives in Chant Close. And I must admit that I have to go to Winchester I always go through Wherwell 🤷♀️
Lovely that you can go on a visit where you grew up! A young family lives in Greenwich Cottage now and they always shout out and wave to us when we go by. Living history!
Oh wow! It's lovely knowing that. I have a lifetime connection to Wherwell, my my aunt, who I think was born there, in that house still lives in Wherwll. It doesn't matter if it's summer, autumn, winter, or summer. It's a pretty village.
Wonderful video!!! I love horses and wish I would’ve had the opportunity to learn to drive a team… watching your videos let’s me imagine how it would be and I love the conversation… it’s fantastic!!!! Thankyou so very much❤
I’ve had horses with his kind of breeding from young and they mature mentally quite late. As you say, not nasty necessarily but they faff about quite a bit and have a short attention span. I tended to start working them quite late anyway, 4 at least, and found they came on quicker and more easily than trying to start earlier. I did a lot of basic handling and groundwork before that though. And they weren’t stallions, though one of mine thought he was when young 😄 He’s a nice boy, and it’s great to see a stallion being given something to do and a proper life.
You made a great point saying they do what they are allowed to do too…
Wonderful as always.
What a beautiful boy he is. I love his colouring. What's his breed?
Barry said he was an Anglo-Arab, which is a cross between a Thoroughbred and an Arabian 😊
Nuri belongs to me. He is Part Bred Arab. 81% Arab. The balance is a mix of New Forest, Connemara, Welsh, and some American breeding, there is a bit of thoroughbred in there, but not much😊
He is beautiful @@Esmerelda666
The royal road is
first a relationship
and then education/training.
This is especially true for
so-called character horses.
To refine it,
start with
Accompanying your horse
and not with leadership.
If you lead,
you know where to go.
If, on the other hand,
you accompany,
the horse can maximally unfold/blossom itself
and show itself.
And it shows how it reacts to you
and tries to build a relationship,
and e.g. how much imagination it has.
Of course, if the situation demands it,
then you are the boss.
Hopefully with foal the normality will be
to accompany it,
at the beginning.
But most horses come to their new owner
when they are some and more years old.
The prerequisite for this is
that you recognize the differences between horses.
Aren't they as different/diverse as people?
With a new character horse
it's already a big step,
if you can care for his fur anywhere.
And especially if it has had bad experiences with people.
A smart, proud, high-quality horse
no longer accepts kindness from a human being,
because it was too often tricked into doing something it didn't want.
The confidence in men is destroyt.
And it is more great like spring,
if this your new horse starts new trusting men.
Grooming is the opposite of what an enemy and maybe some men
does to his fur.
Deceive/cheat/lie
can do a lot of damage to a very good, alert horse.
You have to find and choose another path.
The horse educates you.
Or there is no way for working together.
The best horses
end up in the sausage,
similar to how the best man
“ended” on the cross.
Or not?
Sometimes you need a good friend
and a role model,
like Cloud
especially in foreign areas
Men and horse
are as if made for each other,
because opposites attract.
Horses are always honest.
They can't help it.
Men not.
They can't help it.
He's just honest,
in the sense of:
think out loud,
when he confesses
that he is not fundamentally honest.
And that's problematic,
not just because of:
Sweet sin - sweet repentance.
Saying by Trakiturnus
So good to hear a 'you do!' again. It's been a while. Great to watch a stallion in the earlier stages of training. Where do you go if the voice doesn't work?
That equals "You do",
can also make the horse wilder.
Maybe we'll get an explanation
of how to make the words have exactly that effect.
A woman who trains cold-blooded stallions said:
"I just sometimes wish I had a voice like men."
The voice usually works, as he is used to hearing it on the ground and when being handled in the stables. However, 'waiting him out' until he is calm enough to notice the voice is sometimes necessary!
What is in it for him to throw his hind end up when asked to move out? Does he not know how to canter or not want to or some other reason? I have a horse that would throw his front end up at first when asked to move out, but as he got more fit he quit it. It was like a person heaving themself out of a chair!
On one occasion he accidentally tucked his tail into his britching and upset himself. Another it was 'youth and exuberance' at play! He is just learning, after all.
Was I wrong the stallion is the stallion the buckskin?
The stallion is Nuri the buckskin Part-Bred Arab on the offside. The big black horse is HDP Cloud, one of our schoolmasters - he is a gelding, but don't tell him that haha
Trainer with four legs for everyone
This may be the new business
of Mr. Hook
"producing" Clouds,
in different colors. ---
It is not so dangeres.
than "fixing" an accident horse
or train a raw one.
And people may buy them like icecream
on a warm sunny day.
Or does it take to long
and is only one of hundret
able to be cloudlike,
like a policehorse?
Sounds a bit confusing, yes?
Someone posted here briefly: "I need a Cloud"
That was my answer, which was then deleted along with his comment.
A successful one
and very intelligent
horse breeder,
horse dealer
horse trainer,
Agricultural machinery dealer
and fraudsters,
answered my question
as to whether the newly trained carriage horse
should first be taken to Hungary to be made available to a farmer
for two years,
with a yes. ---
I say responsible driving on all roads
is only possible
if you drive almost every day
or has a horse that has been driven everywhere every day for one, preferably 5 years
or you get a lucky break from a horse,
or you are as expierienct and interested in horses (loving horses) as Berry Hook.
At times its hard to hear you. Maybe an over view of the drive after you are done would be very informative. The stallion I assumed is on the inside.
Apologies, we do our best with the audio but wind noise sometimes isn't helpful and auto-captions cannot understand Barry's accent! The stallion is the horse on the offside.
No we don’t want an overview voiceover we want the audio as Barry’s driving explaining what he’s doing in that moment on the drive like he does. Barry’s the best in business we want his videos to stay as he does them currently
@@yummyumunchkins6667 Thank-you, that's lovely to hear!