Supertamp Goodbye Stranger cover

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

Комментарии • 195

  • @guibox3
    @guibox3 8 лет назад +49

    Heard this for the millionth time on the radio the other day and said, 'Enough. I'm going to learn this bugger' Found this and I'm glad I did! Have my old synth out that I haven't played in years and following along with you! So much fun to play! Thanks!

  • @redlense4
    @redlense4 10 лет назад +34

    Wow - I never get tired of listening to this. This song always makes me feel great. Thanks dude!

  • @pdbailey2003
    @pdbailey2003 9 лет назад +12

    One of my favorite songs ... love the piano

  • @LordKakumei
    @LordKakumei 8 лет назад +12

    BEAUTIFUL Wurlitzer! Perfect playing.

  • @jordanphillips1453
    @jordanphillips1453 9 лет назад +128

    Wow nice walkthrough thanks for taking it real slow so I got every part

    • @extremeultralightaviation
      @extremeultralightaviation 4 года назад +2

      At least give a midi file, notation, SOMETHING! my solution is download it, loop it and slow it down using VLC media player.

    • @nicholasmarch3286
      @nicholasmarch3286 4 года назад +5

      @@extremeultralightaviation you know you can just slow it down right from youtube actually. helped me a lot

    • @extremeultralightaviation
      @extremeultralightaviation 4 года назад +2

      @@nicholasmarch3286 but you can't loop sections. That's where vlc comes in

    • @mertman1
      @mertman1 4 года назад +1

      William Brock you can change the playback screen RT on RUclips

    • @mertman1
      @mertman1 4 года назад +1

      William Brock click on top RT corner ...click 3 vertical dots. Look for playback speed. You can make it very slow...or very fast. Makes singers Alvin or Berry White

  • @spencerbewick8462
    @spencerbewick8462 10 лет назад +42

    1:15 best part

  • @justaregulargamerjrg46
    @justaregulargamerjrg46 7 лет назад +17

    my god, that is impressive, it sounds amazing, well done

  • @jooeeee
    @jooeeee 8 лет назад +10

    Remind me nice memories.

  • @DiscoMania
    @DiscoMania 10 лет назад +6

    You play this exceptionally well and the keyboard sound is beautiful. Truly fantastic music! I'm so happy you were able to repost the video.

  • @katieolson4207
    @katieolson4207 Год назад +2

    This is the best cover of it the other synth pianos sound off on the other RUclips videos

  • @mau9885
    @mau9885 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for playing that song I love and enjoy..,❤️

  • @jimmydodsworth4851
    @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

    I am pretty much a self-taught pianist. I used to olay this in a band in high school and another in college and have played it on many occasions since. I just sat down to "relearn it yesterday and figured I'd check out some RUclips talent. While you do play it a bit differently from me, you by far have it about as close to the original as I have heard. 99% of the "pro pianists" have it completely wrong, and it was wonderful to see somebody give this song some cred. Thanks Oliver. I recommend anybody wanting to learn to play this, to WATCH THIS VIDEO AS IT IS THE MOST REFLECTIVE OF THE ORIGINAL!

  • @dantodd1095
    @dantodd1095 10 лет назад +6

    Nothing beats the sound of the Whirly attached to this song.

  • @ohlino
    @ohlino 2 года назад +2

    Me encanta como suena esta canción, que ganas de aprenderla. Greetings from Chile, Southamerica

  • @DelilahThePig
    @DelilahThePig 6 лет назад +4

    I got chills on the middle part!

  • @jeangiovannangeli8313
    @jeangiovannangeli8313 4 года назад +8

    I love this song it remind me when I was young 😂

  • @Omegajunior2658
    @Omegajunior2658 4 года назад +2

    That is a wonderful melody. Greetings from Ireland

  • @SluffAdlin
    @SluffAdlin 8 лет назад +4

    Love that Wurly, wish they still made them. Yes I know you can still find them if you look hard enough.

  • @memichael4028
    @memichael4028 6 лет назад

    So happy to find this video on RUclips with the dearth of Supertramp tutorials. Fine... it's not a tutorial as some of you have said, but whatever... definitely easy enough to pause and rewind and pause and rewind. I've devoted my spare time to nailing it down this week for fear that it'll disappear any day now. Thank you Tidiouter!!!! Very well done indeed!!!

  • @rodrigobarrera3868
    @rodrigobarrera3868 4 года назад +3

    Sos un maestro hermano!! Hasta que no lo saque no voy a parar!! Saludos de Argentina!!

  • @richferraro4422
    @richferraro4422 3 года назад +2

    Hi T. Just got my 200A out of storage, fixed the problem why it went into storage, and wanted to learn this song. To date I’ve looked at many “tutorials” and although your post isn’t a tutorial per say, your camera was placed perfect. This song is all about right hand syncopation, and you’ve pretty much nailed it. The chorus is the icing on the cake. I gotta get one! Thanks so much for posting, you’re quite talented!

    • @GeekerThings
      @GeekerThings Год назад +1

      I am so jelly you had a 200A in storage haha. They are proving to be difficult to find here in New Mexico!

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

      I lent my Juno 106 to my twin brother for his band to use and I haven't seen it since! He sold it for $100 to some guy back in 1998. You can't pick up one of these classic synthesized for less than $2,500 nowadays. The Wulitzer 200A is another perfect example of that. That was an incredible early synthesized piano sound that is almost impossible to replicate, even with a brand new $5,000 Korg or Yamaha. Me jelly of you too!

  • @andreasboose5611
    @andreasboose5611 2 месяца назад

    The best Wurlitzer - Tribute ever ❤

  • @ryandunbar1314
    @ryandunbar1314 6 лет назад +4

    I can’t play a lick as I’m a guitar player but certain songs make me want to learn and this one

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

      I'm first a drummer, then a guitarist and a piano/synth guy next. This guy plays it great, but while I can't read sheet music as I play, I can read sheet music to the point where I can understand the original composition. That said, learn to play it this way as it sounds just as good, but is less complicated between the two hands. Essentially the left and right hamd are playing a half step different from each other. Being a drummer, my brain is able to get different appendages to do different things simultaneously. Almost every other "lesson" on the internet has it way wrong. I think that's because they are just posting popular things that regular-Joe's want to hear and learn to play, yet they have never actually heard this awesome tune before! The way it's played here makes it so much easier on the left hand than the original composition and sounds pretty dang close.

  • @moggio1188
    @moggio1188 7 лет назад +11

    for you all complaining about it not being a walkthrough... it is. just pause it, look at his damn fingers, learn the rhythm. you should all be grateful because it's rare to see piano videos with a good camera angle so you can really see everything they're doing and learn it. plus it's better for a lot because I know a lot of people hate when people pause like every 2 seconds and speak for 10 minutes. you can go with your own pace on this.

    • @domoatlas1063
      @domoatlas1063 6 лет назад

      mōggio I see videos like this all the time. Not so rare lol

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад +1

      The internet is full of "classically trained pianists" that have never heard of the song they are attempting to provide lessons for. They may be talented, but without the passion of loving a great song such as this, most blow it. 1/2 of the guys have a drum click track playing behind it. Sure, that may make it easier to count, but it ruins the essence of this mostly electric jazz keyboard sound that makes this song a classic. Without ever hearing you play, just from your comment, I am quite sure you are a great musician!

  • @Tidiouter
    @Tidiouter  8 лет назад +26

    Thank you. Keep practicing.

    • @alexandresoulan8669
      @alexandresoulan8669 7 лет назад +1

      Tidiouter hello
      where candidature I get the score of "goodbye stranger"? It is really hard to find it.

    • @matthewtaylor744
      @matthewtaylor744 7 лет назад +4

      Where did you learn to play this song?

    • @student702
      @student702 7 лет назад +2

      this is not a tutorial! You don't say a word! How about talking about what cords they are! This is barely a help but thanks.

  • @hey_buddy_waz_up
    @hey_buddy_waz_up 5 лет назад +2

    Ain't nothing like the deep, raspy bass of the wurlie.

    • @andreasboose5611
      @andreasboose5611 2 месяца назад

      The Wurlitzer is the best sounding electric piano ever made ❤

  • @areality40
    @areality40 4 года назад +2

    Awesome, awesome job on this!

  • @KatKatMusic
    @KatKatMusic 4 года назад +1

    Thank you this is really helpful! Found slowing the video speed down on settings was useful to catch each note.

  • @TPBass1224
    @TPBass1224 10 лет назад +3

    It's a shame they blocked your Logical Song video. I'm sure it was awesome. : (
    You really nail the playing & the sound. I would love to see you do a video for "Oh Darling" or "Casual Conversations." Cheers!!!

  • @jodijotuk1845
    @jodijotuk1845 11 месяцев назад

    Badazz!! I'm just now starting to play again, I found a good keyboard. & now I can't quit playing. Last few years I felt like the piano was a blank paper, I thought I'd never get it back.. well, I'm not the greatest but I play, I've been playing since I was 3. I've always had a piano. Thank you for doing this, it looks a little challenging,, but I won't stop until I learn it. Don't ever stop playing. ✌🏾🙏🏽💜

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

      I think you need to be over 50 years old to truly appreciate the greatness of this song. When it first came out, you couldn't go an hour without hearing it on any local radio stations!

  • @TPBass1224
    @TPBass1224 10 лет назад +6

    Thank you very much. : )

  • @painteat
    @painteat 5 лет назад +3

    I think he put walk through/tutorial to avoid copyright. This video, at one time did not have audio because of that.

  • @FrancescoBellringer
    @FrancescoBellringer 4 года назад +1

    Definitely going to get round to learning this one!

  • @hunga224
    @hunga224 3 года назад +1

    It was an early morning yesterday
    I was up before the dawn
    And I really have enjoyed my stay
    But I must be moving on
    Like a king without a castle
    Like a queen without a throne
    I'm an early morning lover
    And I must be moving on
    Now I believe in what you say
    Is the undisputed truth
    But I have to have things my own way
    To keep me in my youth
    Like a ship without an anchor
    Like a slave without a chain
    Just the thought of those sweet ladies
    Sends a shiver through my veins
    And I will go on shining
    Shining like brand new
    I'll never look behind me
    My troubles will be few
    Goodbye stranger it's been nice
    Hope you find your paradise
    Tried to see your point of view
    Hope your dreams will all come true
    Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane
    Will we ever meet again
    Feel no sorrow, feel no shame
    Come tomorrow, feel no pain
    Sweet devotion (Goodby Mary)
    It's not for me (Goodbye Jane)
    Just give me motion (Will we ever)
    To set me free (Meet again)
    In the land and the ocean (Feel no sorrow)
    Far away (Feel no shame)
    It's the life I've chosen (Come tomorrow)
    Every day (Feel no pain)
    So goodbye Mary (Goodbye, Mary)
    So goodbye Jane (Goodbye, Jane)
    Will we ever (Will we ever)
    Meet again (Meet again)
    Now some they do and some they don't
    And some you just can't tell
    And some they will and some they won't
    With some it's just as well
    You can laugh at my behaviour
    And that'll never bother me
    Say the devil is my saviour
    But I don't pay no heed
    And I will go on shining
    Shining like brand new
    I'll never look behind me
    My troubles will be few
    Goodbye, stranger, it's been nice
    Hope you find your paradise
    Tried to see your point of view
    Hope your dreams will all come true
    Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane
    Will we ever meet again
    Feel no sorrow, feel no shame
    Come tomorrow, feel no pain
    Sweet devotion (Goodbye, Mary)
    It's not for me (Goodbye, Jane)
    Just give me motion (Will we ever)
    To set me free (Meet again)
    In the land and the ocean (Feel no sorrow)
    Far away (Feel no shame)
    It's the life I've chosen (Come tomorrow)
    Every day (Feel no pain)
    So now I'm leaving (Goodbye, Mary)
    Got to go (Goodbye, Jane)
    Hit the road (Will we ever)
    I'll say it once again (Meet again)
    Oh, yes, I'm leaving (Feel so sorrow)
    Got to go (Feel no shame)
    Got to go (Come tomorrow)
    I'm sorry, I must dash (Feel no pain)
    So goodbye Mary (Goodbye, Mary)
    So goodbye Jane (Goodbye, Jane)
    Will we ever (Will we ever)
    Meet again? (Meet again)
    Go and believe it
    I've got to go

  • @ambulance_boy3834
    @ambulance_boy3834 6 лет назад +4

    Amazing!

  • @clydenolet736
    @clydenolet736 24 дня назад

    Such a. Great song 😊

  • @gerry5744
    @gerry5744 6 лет назад +2

    Great tutorial, learned it in a breeze keep it up

  • @peterdonellymiscellaneousv2854
    @peterdonellymiscellaneousv2854 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent, thank you so much!

  • @carsonrice9782
    @carsonrice9782 2 года назад

    absolute magician 👏🏼

  • @RexSingleton
    @RexSingleton 9 лет назад +3

    thanks best lesson! so freaking good

  • @theschmoo3867
    @theschmoo3867 8 лет назад +4

    Great. love ya stuff . :) any chance of a breakdown Vid.? :)

  • @jakegregg7153
    @jakegregg7153 4 года назад +1

    Can I please have this video so I can listen to it over and over again.
    I'm starting to like this more then the actual song itself

  • @EphemeralProductions
    @EphemeralProductions Год назад

    the best way to hear a Wurlitzer! with chorus pedal! :)

  • @wildnites558
    @wildnites558 7 лет назад +3

    Great job! I can see you're a pro. Probably with some serious studio experience.

  • @nates5829
    @nates5829 6 лет назад +6

    It’s actually a great walkthrough. He plays all the parts, and you can see every note and every chord. If you need Supertramp spoon-fed to you, chances are you’re not ready to play it anyway.

    • @Amber-si7kx
      @Amber-si7kx 5 лет назад +1

      The whole point of a "tutorial" is to show you how its played
      This is a play through
      While you CAN learn from it, and I have
      This is still not a tutorial

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

      Hear that!

  • @soberhippie
    @soberhippie 9 лет назад +5

    You've got a real electric piano!

  • @molarjock
    @molarjock 6 лет назад +6

    That was a beautiful cover! Nicely done. Can I purchase the sheetmusic somewhere? What kind of effects pedal did you use?

  • @julien8983
    @julien8983 9 лет назад +2

    Reaaaaally nice tutorial! Thanks a lot :D

  • @jooeeee
    @jooeeee 8 лет назад +4

    Nice job Bro !

  • @SirWinstonBeech
    @SirWinstonBeech 7 лет назад +1

    Living and dyin by the A flat nine.... I loved this song ever since I first heard it in 79 and it's all because of those A flat 9 chords repeated in the outro. Took me a long time to get back to playing music... this song was 35 years old when I bought a chart for it. I don't know if I could learn it or not on the keyboard. It also has a wicked bass line.

    • @SirWinstonBeech
      @SirWinstonBeech 7 лет назад

      I got the chart out right after I wrote that and started hacking at it. Unbelievably it's got an abbreviated outro and doesn't even have the 9th (Bb) written. But the main verses and chorus seem right. What I *don't* have is a decent Wurli patch. My Roland does a nice Hammond, a nice pipe, and a nice Oberheim (Van Halen) but the EP sounds are weak, neither a decent Rhodes or Wurli. My Casio 88 - full piano with weighted keys - actually has an EP patch that is better. This almost makes me want to get another KB but I flat out don't have any more space available. If I could find a cheap one that had a decent Rhodes and Wurli I'd buy it just for that.

  • @phstudio6704
    @phstudio6704 9 лет назад +1

    Thanks a lot, very good video.

  • @dan27music
    @dan27music 2 года назад

    Thank you for this.

  • @wake151291
    @wake151291 Год назад +1

    Props to you, either the wurlitzer has smaller than usual keys or you have big hands. I can't reach between G sharp and the next octave B flat at the same time. Maybe I have small hands

    • @jimmydodsworth4851
      @jimmydodsworth4851 25 дней назад

      If you can spread just one octave per hand, you can easily nail this. You just need to olay it as Hodgeson originally composed it. Just rock back and forth on an A flat 5-6 with your left hand while playing the right hand only having to go about 3/4 of an octave. If you know how to play the piano basics it's easier to do it that way. But honestly, this is one of the best "lessons" you will find. The original is played with a standard 1-2-3-4 beat, but the right hand is 1/8th different (play on the "and" beats in-between the standard 4/4). You just need to be able to do two different things with each hand! It's much easier if you just learn each hand individually until muscle memory kicks in, then just play with both hands without even trying to think or count it out! I'm a drummer first, so that just comes naturally to me. Another great example of that is "Come Sail Away". Unless you are a piano savant, simple sounding songs like this can be tough to nail down. Pra tice, practice, practice.

  • @mandyreider
    @mandyreider 9 лет назад +2

    I, too, would love to see this as an actual tutorial! Broken down a bit. It sounds awesome, but there are a couple parts I'm still having trouble with :) Nice job, though!

  • @has123456
    @has123456 5 лет назад +1

    Never delete this, please \o/ wow

  • @javier2262
    @javier2262 6 лет назад

    Excelente...genial. Muy respetuoso a la obra!

  • @ComputerGuitarVideos
    @ComputerGuitarVideos 7 лет назад +2

    Please let us know what chorus peddle settings you used.

  • @ellenbacklin
    @ellenbacklin 4 года назад +2

    Do you happen to know busboys "the boys are back in town" I'm stuck

  • @diegocruzhernandez5855
    @diegocruzhernandez5855 2 года назад

    Minha música preferida de Supertramp, parabéns perfeito

  • @aussiecoastie72
    @aussiecoastie72 4 года назад +1

    Excellent 👏👏🎹

  • @z91
    @z91 7 лет назад

    Wait, Tidiouter, like Tidioute PA? Pass through there all the time!

    • @Tidiouter
      @Tidiouter  7 лет назад

      z91 yea! Check out some of my other videos

  • @Katie-gq3xn
    @Katie-gq3xn 6 лет назад +1

    Good job on this!!

  • @leonardoernst4390
    @leonardoernst4390 8 лет назад +1

    Very nice video !

  • @shaunakroychowdhury7075
    @shaunakroychowdhury7075 2 года назад

    Amazing. -Shaunak from India

  • @erictesteguide4027
    @erictesteguide4027 7 лет назад +11

    It's not a tuorial. But a good cover, especially about Wurlitzer sound. From which expander ?

  • @Angelpatty0414
    @Angelpatty0414 6 лет назад

    Love the description

  • @Gallzatron
    @Gallzatron 7 лет назад +27

    It's sad that people are saying this isn't a tutorial. It is, provided you can learn by watching other people play. Not that hard, if you actually try (which I'm sure half of you didn't)

    • @russellnorth1
      @russellnorth1 7 лет назад +3

      Benjamin Dover he's just playing it, which isn't a tutorial.

    • @ShoesMagoo
      @ShoesMagoo 6 лет назад +2

      Names of chords would be extremely helpful for those who do not play keys but wish to play on other instruments.

  • @MakinMovies7
    @MakinMovies7 4 года назад

    Exquisite.

  • @Mr.RodrigoGomez
    @Mr.RodrigoGomez 10 лет назад +2

    well done, thanks

  • @steveraschella8233
    @steveraschella8233 7 месяцев назад

    Thanx from the band!

  • @williammontagu6137
    @williammontagu6137 5 лет назад +1

    Nice piano by the way

  • @winguru038
    @winguru038 4 года назад +1

    what's this guy's definition of " tutorial"

    • @FrancescoBellringer
      @FrancescoBellringer 4 года назад +1

      It’s not a tutorial it’s a cover

    • @winguru038
      @winguru038 4 года назад

      @@FrancescoBellringer he changed the title, its was a "tutorial"

  • @GRAW2ROBZ
    @GRAW2ROBZ Год назад

    Good bye stranger it's been nice!

  • @steveraschella8233
    @steveraschella8233 7 месяцев назад

    So wish I’d never sold the Wurley back in the day…$550 new now they are $5K used
    WOW!

  • @DickHenrik1
    @DickHenrik1 8 лет назад +1

    Muito Bom... Parabéns!!!

  • @andrewhey5720
    @andrewhey5720 9 лет назад

    This is great!! Do you think you could make a tutorial and go through this awesome piece with steps??

  • @stevekubica6281
    @stevekubica6281 7 лет назад

    Your video was a huge help in learning that song. The sheet music I purchased was written for solo piano rather than the piano accompaniment that was played with the band.

  • @BucF16
    @BucF16 6 лет назад +1

    Great job man. Really helping me. I think you're making it hard on yourself though! Some of those R hand notes that you're stretching to reach are actually played by the L hand. The intro for example is (I'm pretty sure) Octaves in the L hand with the high note on 1 and 3 and the low note on 2 and 4. Great job though. Much thanks.

  • @pedropablosecofernandez5390
    @pedropablosecofernandez5390 2 года назад

    Muchas gracias!!!!!

  • @fuckoffstore746
    @fuckoffstore746 10 лет назад +7

    Could you possibly post what notes are played? Or do a tutorial with audio telling us what you are pressing?

  • @cibianthellama
    @cibianthellama Год назад

    pretty good cover

  • @windsorpatb
    @windsorpatb 5 лет назад

    superb. Thx :-)

  • @andreasboose5611
    @andreasboose5611 Месяц назад

    What about the yellow box ?

  • @TheTranswaves
    @TheTranswaves 9 лет назад

    Good Job!! Sweet Rhodes too!

    • @kalelc1996
      @kalelc1996 9 лет назад

      That's a Wurlitzer not a Rhodes

    • @TheTranswaves
      @TheTranswaves 9 лет назад

      +Kal-El Johnson Indeed it is. I should have looked closer. I seen the two knobs and assumed it was a Rhodes, tweaked to sound a little like a Wurlitzer, since Wurlitzers are less common. Love that sound just the same! ;-)

  • @airsombra
    @airsombra 9 лет назад

    Thx. Good render!

  • @secure777
    @secure777 3 года назад

    💯👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @TheEpicImpaler
    @TheEpicImpaler 8 лет назад +99

    Nice "tutorial".

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 4 года назад +16

      Raul Mejia he’s showing you all the notes, so what you, can’t figure out some basic rhythms?

    • @leemsvg
      @leemsvg 4 года назад +14

      where does it say tutorial? It says its a cover

    • @jwhit7960
      @jwhit7960 Год назад

      It’s a cover

  • @Brian77Gilmour
    @Brian77Gilmour 5 лет назад

    Since the only fans of Roger Hodgson specify when it is a song of Hodgson, it would be nice to specify that it is a song of Rick Davies the bad boy of Supertramp which according to some would not have made hits ...

  • @yharnamhoonter6685
    @yharnamhoonter6685 5 лет назад

    Thank you dude

  • @wvlekker
    @wvlekker 5 лет назад +1

    Roger Hodgson should consider hiring you.

  • @cesargaldamesbert
    @cesargaldamesbert 9 лет назад

    Maestro!

  • @adrianoourique8474
    @adrianoourique8474 5 лет назад

    Sensacionallllllll!!!
    Do you know effects name for yamaha ?
    Thanks , Rio de Janeiro , Brasil!!!

    • @jeangiovannangeli8313
      @jeangiovannangeli8313 4 года назад

      Adriano Ourique I search it too HELP
      On Yamaha psr 363 the best setting I can have is rock 70 s but it is not perfect

  • @hrb1997
    @hrb1997 10 лет назад +4

    "Pets and Animals" lol

  • @Corbus_27
    @Corbus_27 9 месяцев назад

    Nice

  • @GRAW2ROBZ
    @GRAW2ROBZ Год назад

    Good bye Marry good bye Jane.......

  • @marcelacochran2326
    @marcelacochran2326 10 лет назад

    gooood! besides; shouldn't it be awesome recording multitrack collabs at Bandhub =) I almost always can do cajon -- We have to join forces in bandhub! It will be excellent!

  • @denydeny1987
    @denydeny1987 5 лет назад

    me encantooooo

  • @GRAW2ROBZ
    @GRAW2ROBZ Год назад

    Good bye Mary..... good bye Jane!....

  • @elianarodrigues7568
    @elianarodrigues7568 Год назад

    Parabéns ❤

  • @palmsofdestin1
    @palmsofdestin1 4 года назад +1

    I had a red one.

    • @Tidiouter
      @Tidiouter  4 года назад

      Kelly Wilson Do you wish you had it back? Have you seen what the red ones sell for?