First Time Hearing The Doobie Brothers! Vocal ANALYSIS of "What A Fool Believes"

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
  • I'm always looking for uplifting songs, between The Beach Boys, Jackson 5, and now Electric Light Orchestra. So when y'all were prompted to find me songs that were just uplifting and fun, and "What A Fool Believes" by The Doobie Brothers does not disappoint! I'm not sure the lyrics make me think "Super Happy" but the groove is undeniable!
    Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff, as she listens to The Doobie Brothers for the first time, performing "What A Fool Believes”.
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    Performed by The Doobie Brothers - Words and Music by Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins
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    Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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  • @dthorne4602
    @dthorne4602 Месяц назад +123

    The bouncy song is the fool's perspective, the lyrics are the reality he ignores. It is a masterpiece of a pop song.

    • @jackw467
      @jackw467 25 дней назад +2

      That Bouncy part annoys Women, for some weird reason.

    • @jamesfarina5764
      @jamesfarina5764 23 дня назад

      @@jackw467 Everything annoys women

    • @the_Kurgan
      @the_Kurgan 18 дней назад +1

      It's not "the fool" it's the "wise man" who has the power to reason away reality.

    • @lisakaz35
      @lisakaz35 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@the_Kurgan Fools often believe they're wise, though. The lyric is "no wise man has the power to reason away..."

    • @dclaet1135
      @dclaet1135 12 дней назад +2

      You hit it on the head! I never could put it into words. Well done.

  • @benamisai-kham5892
    @benamisai-kham5892 Месяц назад +637

    Can't wait for the Black Water reaction, my absolute favorite Doobie brothers song

    • @jeffc8965
      @jeffc8965 Месяц назад +24

      I completely agree. And I think Elizabeth will enjoy the acapella section...

    • @JenSell1626
      @JenSell1626 Месяц назад

      @@jeffc8965and it will be in my head for 8 hours and I’m not even mad

    • @dmitryowens
      @dmitryowens Месяц назад +27

      Jesus Is Just Alright, Listen To The Music and China Grove are mine, along with this song.

    • @NBKenC
      @NBKenC Месяц назад +4

      It's not my fave of theirs, but I think Elizabeth would love it.

    • @ironwolfgaming9632
      @ironwolfgaming9632 Месяц назад +9

      That and Listen to the Music

  • @Hoeech
    @Hoeech Месяц назад +69

    It's a very upbeat and happy way of hammering home the message "She's not that into you, dude"

    • @mcdaddydrewpounders
      @mcdaddydrewpounders 9 дней назад

      It’s odd she took the McDonald era that was off the minute by minute album. I would have went more .rock this was z1979 when they had start doing more pop hits on this album!

    • @rogueandvagabondrabbit5837
      @rogueandvagabondrabbit5837 6 дней назад

      Oh, she wasn’t into him at all. Never thought twice.

  • @dbeasleyphx
    @dbeasleyphx Месяц назад +85

    "What A Fool Believes " is one of the happiest sounding sad songs ever!

    • @stever5359
      @stever5359 Месяц назад

      For a truly sad sounding sad song listen to David Clayton-Thomas with Blood, Sweat and Tears version of Lonesome Suzie.

    • @mr.choiceconsulting1498
      @mr.choiceconsulting1498 29 дней назад +4

      The whole idea of feeling happy while the lyrics are sad reflect someone who feels happy although reality is sad, hence you deny reality and feel happy like a fool. It's just genius!

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard День назад

      That’s what yacht rock is all about

  • @thomasoconnell2150
    @thomasoconnell2150 Месяц назад +290

    Michael McDonald is all over 70’s and 80’s music. He did background vocals for steely Dan, lead vocals for the doobie brothers, and background vocals Toto, Christopher cross and a crap ton of other records. Also, he’s from my hometown of St. Louis😊

    • @spooley
      @spooley Месяц назад +25

      Rumor has it his vocal chords are still recovering from singing every part of the harmony in Peg for Steely Dan -- the wonders of multi-track recording. It still took hours according to Donald Fagen.

    • @renlessard
      @renlessard Месяц назад +19

      lol the SCTV skit about McDonald zooming from studio job to studio job is fantastic. His voice was everywhere

    • @SmokingCats
      @SmokingCats Месяц назад +2

      Ferguson's garage band!

    • @epistte
      @epistte Месяц назад +10

      The one sequence almost looks like Walter Becker playing guitar. I wonder what Elizabeth would think of Steely Dan, Deacon Blues, My Old School or Hey 19. Donald Fagan has an interesting voice.

    • @stephenriggs8177
      @stephenriggs8177 Месяц назад +11

      Michael wrote this one with Kenny Loggins. The two worked together, again, on Kenny's song "This Is It," as well as several others. Basically, if you needed "that sound," you rang up Michael.

  • @williammouri1096
    @williammouri1096 Месяц назад +115

    This is pretty much how they sounded live back then. No autotune. No crazy delay. No jacked up compression. A little enhancement on the chorus. Talent. Pure and simple.

    • @joshuawaldran72
      @joshuawaldran72 Месяц назад

      Yes, absolutely.

    • @georgelovelace
      @georgelovelace Месяц назад

      @@joshuawaldran72 Oh No Yes Seems to be The Power that Let's Us Be The Wise Man To Reason Away - LOVE

    • @rigel2112
      @rigel2112 26 дней назад

      They still sound like this live.

    • @TheDownbeatruler
      @TheDownbeatruler 20 дней назад

      I feel sorry for this younger generation you never experienced real great music and musicians because everything from the 1995 to now has been just trash.

    • @eboethrasher
      @eboethrasher 13 дней назад +1

      @@TheDownbeatruler that's false. I'm 52 and I have heard both older stuff like this while I'm growing, and other stuff from the 80s and 90s, and later, there are still plenty of good bands. You just haven't heard them, and I feel sorry for you.

  • @dviljoen
    @dviljoen Месяц назад +92

    My very first thought when you said you picked this song because its a "happy" song was "No! It's horrific!" I'm glad you figured that out. Its actually a guy who is in complete denial when he comes across an old crush who he has pined for and loved for years, only to see that she has never even thought of him in all that time. A soul-crushing song, but of a guy who's just bopping along in denial.

    • @flashgordon10001
      @flashgordon10001 Месяц назад +6

      Exactly. Exactly, my song of 1980 - 82 after crushing heartbreak 💔 😮

    • @ncthom88
      @ncthom88 Месяц назад +7

      Seriously. Bouncy? Absolutely. Happy? Hardly!

    • @jeffwestcott6902
      @jeffwestcott6902 Месяц назад +1

      @@ncthom88 so you didn't watch all the way. she figured it out. do better.

    • @ncthom88
      @ncthom88 Месяц назад +7

      @@jeffwestcott6902 What? I watched the entire thing. I didn't say she didn't figure it out. If you read the comment to which I responded, you might see that I was agreeing with the sentiment "My very first thought when you said ..." That was also my very first thought when she said she was expecting a happy song. The big surprise is that anyone recommended it as a happy song. Do better, yourself.

    • @dviljoen
      @dviljoen Месяц назад +10

      @@jeffwestcott6902 Clearly you didn't read all the way. Do better.

  • @Christatum411
    @Christatum411 Месяц назад +37

    What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away. Incredible lyrics

    • @chrisross-fd3fo
      @chrisross-fd3fo Месяц назад +3

      its easier to get someone to believe a lie than it is to convince them they were lied to.. frank zappa said (or repeated) in an interview...youll never change someones mind...thats why you want the first word not the last word lol .its why pot stirrers put so much effort into giving "the scoop" to people they just met..what a fool believes..but oh (oh ..oh oh oh) black water...what that song achieeeeeved

    • @garyakirsch
      @garyakirsch 4 дня назад

      Whoa! You mastered politics, friend.

    • @excrono
      @excrono День назад

      @@chrisross-fd3foWhen you act first you take control of the narrative and influence how people think and feel toward you according to your own devices.

  • @Cadinho93
    @Cadinho93 Месяц назад +248

    What A Fool Believes won the Grammy Awards in 1980 for the Song of the Year (lyrics and music) and the Record of the Year (the actual recording). This masterpiece was written by Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins. They also collaborated on the hit jams "This Is It" and "Heart To Heart".
    Also, this song is a great example that soul has no color and showcases why Michael McDonald is such a great singer, you know his voice the minute you hear it. One of the greatest singer of all times.

    • @philippesauvie639
      @philippesauvie639 Месяц назад +4

      Strange… I never liked this song but I love the real Doobie Brothers early music from the 70s without McDonald.

    • @bishlap
      @bishlap Месяц назад

      Some real horrible faux rock u picked there.

    • @SHdrummerguy08
      @SHdrummerguy08 Месяц назад +6

      @@bishlap at no point did OP suggest this was rock, but it IS yacht rock

    • @PGH56
      @PGH56 Месяц назад +3

      @@philippesauvie639Michael stepped up when Tom Johnson was going through his worst years. Same transition window where Skunk joined. Certainly changed the Doobies from guitar (and Ton Johnson) centric rock.

    • @norcalsportsguy
      @norcalsportsguy Месяц назад +1

      Tom Johnston isn't in the recording. He was replaced by Michael McDonald. Pat Simmons is with the long hair standing, and Skunk Baxter is the other long haired fellow playing guitar sitting down. This is truly an amazing song. Every guy can probably honestly tell you that he's been in this situation once in his life. This song helped me realize a woman I was interested in, didn't feel the same way. Ever since I don't try so hard anymore. This was almost twenty years ago. I love your work! Thank you!

  • @jcr9520
    @jcr9520 Месяц назад +154

    I was a junior in high school in 1987, and was in my second year as the bassist for the jazz ensemble. Towards the end of the school year, we played a lunch hour gig in a downtown square and after the show, a skinny white guy with long hair and round sunglasses and a big black guy with dreads approached us told us our rendition of Watermelon Man was the best they’d heard. They then explained that they were in town with the Doobie Brothers and asked if we’d be interested in seeing the show. Several of us said yes, and so they set up tickets for us at will call. They turned out to be Skunk Baxter and Cornelius Bumpus. This was their first tour since they had broken up a few years prior and it was a great show. I was never a huge fan, growing up, they were my parents’ music, but I never hated them and came away from the show a more proper fan, plus I got a fun story out of it.
    I doubted our version of Watermelon Man was really the best either had heard, but I really appreciated their generosity and eagerness to support the next generation of players.

    • @Mysterwright
      @Mysterwright Месяц назад +1

      They're owning it guys being foolish in love.

    • @rappmasterdugg6825
      @rappmasterdugg6825 Месяц назад +7

      Fun fact: Skunk Baxter's second career is as a missile defense, cybersecurity, and anti-terrorism expert. He has testified before Congress several times.

    • @spamwagon
      @spamwagon Месяц назад +4

      That is a great story - thanks for sharing it!

    • @JB-gw8ee
      @JB-gw8ee Месяц назад +1

      Awesome!

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 Месяц назад +1

      While I'm sure they were trying to support you guys and all that- I highly doubt they told you that if it wasn't true- musicians know better. We may just keep our mouth shut and not say anything- but we never offer false praise just to support someone- that's cruel. Musicians know that the polite thing to do, the right thing- is be honest- tell the truth. You don't have to be insensitive about it- you can even offer to try and help them out with it- but you have to be honest or you're setting this person up to make a fool of themself on stage. These family members that put their kids or cousin or whatever up to going on the "America 's Got Talent" shows- when they know they sound horrible- are cruel. They should be ashamed of themselves. I play guitar- I wanted to sing- but luckily, the ppl around me were honest and told me I sounded awful. They were quick to follow that with "Accept when you play guitar- you're really good on guitar." They helped me find my way of expressing my self without having to torture everyone around me.

  • @Ray-vs2tk
    @Ray-vs2tk Месяц назад +7

    My mom went to school with Micheal McDonald, these guys were playing in our house my whole life growing up. Still sounds great every time I hear it.

  • @obijuan8466
    @obijuan8466 Месяц назад +25

    Michael is one of the most recorded vocalists ever. Doobies, Steely Dan, Toto, etc, etc. Incredible.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 День назад

      Yeah he was doing backup for everyone for decades, amazing voice. SCTV did a hilarious bit (or was it SNL?) about him

  • @jamesjohnson8601
    @jamesjohnson8601 Месяц назад +307

    Doobies "Takin' it to the streets" is my favorite.

    • @jeffin8127
      @jeffin8127 Месяц назад +13

      Fun part of that song is near the end when McDonald's voice cracks - and they left it in lol

    • @Ooofaa-Maa
      @Ooofaa-Maa Месяц назад +4

      Yessir!

    • @garricksmalley1733
      @garricksmalley1733 Месяц назад +7

      After I got past the groovy-ness of the song and listened to the words… it became one of my top 10 of all time.

    • @terryhughes7349
      @terryhughes7349 Месяц назад +2

      That is a great song.

    • @theundeserver
      @theundeserver Месяц назад +3

      The Live in Santa Barbara performance of "Takin It to the Streets" would be great to see analyzed .

  • @galeem713
    @galeem713 Месяц назад +49

    The quote I love about the Doobie Brothers is in Romancing the Stone. Michael Douglas is reading an old magazine and exclaims “oh no! The Doobie Brothers broke up!!!”

  • @jts2398
    @jts2398 Месяц назад +35

    As a San Jose resident, I am unabashedly proud of this band! I had the good fortune to work at a legendary guitar store (Guitar Showcase) for many years and became friends with Tiran, the bass player/vocalist. He lives in the nearby Santa Cruz mountains and would come into town almost every Tuesday, which quickly became the high point of my week.

    • @DanielByers-qf9qi
      @DanielByers-qf9qi Месяц назад

      I remember my first exposure to The Doobie Brothers: local television advertisements for Plateau Seven, on top of the Pruneyard Tower, with "Listen to the Music" playing in the background. Their producer had a music shop nearby, off the south loop; I went in there years later, unknowing and on unrelated business, and saw gold records hanging on his back wall. I prefer their pre-McDonald music; the album with San Jose's Overpass to Nowhere is one of my all-time favorites.

    • @jonnuanez7183
      @jonnuanez7183 9 дней назад

      Tiran Porter is one of my favorite bass players of all time and severely overlooked IMO.

  • @armadillotoe
    @armadillotoe Месяц назад +24

    The Doobie Brothers went through some personnel changes through the years. The one constant was that you could never go wrong listening to the Doobie Brothers.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 День назад

      Exactly, no matter what incarnation of the band, and there has been many... its all good.

  • @colrhodes377
    @colrhodes377 Месяц назад +192

    The Doobies have done some great stuff over the years. Long train runnin' is my personal favourite

    • @charliestevenson3500
      @charliestevenson3500 Месяц назад +9

      I am partial to “Taking It To The Streets”. The seventies were great for music.

    • @colrhodes377
      @colrhodes377 Месяц назад +1

      @@charliestevenson3500 I'm glad you said streets and not back passage

    • @BakingBadOBX
      @BakingBadOBX Месяц назад +5

      ​@charliestevenson3500 that's my favorite song of there's. That or China Grove

    • @sueparras6028
      @sueparras6028 Месяц назад +10

      Love Long Train Runnin'!

    • @renegade40
      @renegade40 Месяц назад +2

      Second this!!

  • @michaelyork4554
    @michaelyork4554 Месяц назад +41

    Michael McDonald playing a melody line on the piano, harmony on the organ, and singing with emotion, and precision. I still struggle to play bass and melody lines together on the guitar. WOW
    The song "I Keep Forgetting" is like a companion song to this one. Love is an Action Verb.

  • @dmj5058
    @dmj5058 Месяц назад +21

    Elizabeth, as an older guy, I love your reactions and professional insight into songs and artists I grew up listening to. Please never change xx

    • @bobbyverne9714
      @bobbyverne9714 Месяц назад

      I'm an older guy and she needs to change. Her constant pausing and ramblings about food and raindrops is the most annoying reaction I've ever heard! She'd be awesome if she'd stop analyzing ever 15 seconds,

    • @petdoctor3
      @petdoctor3 5 дней назад

      ​@bobbyverne9714 that's the purpose. We love her commentary. Sorry you don't.

  • @TheSlandis
    @TheSlandis Месяц назад +14

    I love that Skunk Baxter is reclining in his Lazy Boy chair smiling and playing. Such a cool vibe.

  • @laceydez
    @laceydez Месяц назад +47

    Girl, you have to give “Peg” by Steely Dan a whirl. A sonically perfect track. It has Michael McDonald on some VERY tight harmonic chorus backing vocals, the Man and icon himself for bass players like myself.. Chuck Rainey defying orders to “not” slap on his bass line.
    You’ll love it. ❤

    • @youbertu
      @youbertu Месяц назад +6

      @laceydez Absolutely!
      The whole Aja album is a masterpiece, with Michael Omartian's production chops on full display.

    • @0okamino
      @0okamino Месяц назад +3

      Fagen and Becker ultimately had to admit what any sensible bassist would already know about this song: the slap is just better for it.

    • @laceydez
      @laceydez Месяц назад +2

      @@0okamino Well of course! He gave it that tightness and that "pop", while knowing just the right amount of classy slap to apply and when to apply it. ;)

    • @alicehb1606
      @alicehb1606 11 дней назад +2

      I think 10 different recording layers of just MM singing word "Peg" I think. Check out Rick Beato's interview with Michael Omartian on "Peg." It's great.

  • @TheB00Man
    @TheB00Man Месяц назад +148

    This is anything but a happy song.

    • @STRAKAZulu
      @STRAKAZulu Месяц назад +14

      Exactly. It's a break-up song.

    • @rex2837
      @rex2837 Месяц назад +15

      True, but it’s a happy acoustically. She, doesn’t go to much into the lyrics, which is a great thing!

    • @stevem-h3562
      @stevem-h3562 Месяц назад +47

      @@STRAKAZulu its worse than that, it was "there wasnt anything in the first place to break up from" song. A real, proper unrequited love song.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Месяц назад +18

      It’s happy for the woman who gets away.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Месяц назад +18

      @@stevem-h3562What you’re saying is there’s still a chance!😍

  • @DrinkingmeadwithsamAdams
    @DrinkingmeadwithsamAdams Месяц назад +7

    Great music will never get old

  • @edhc100
    @edhc100 Месяц назад +5

    One of the most soulful voice

  • @Vyselink
    @Vyselink Месяц назад +32

    This song has one of the best opening lines ever. It just perfectly sums up the rest of the lyrics and what the songs going to be about: "He came from somewhere back in her long ago". Just amazing.

    • @dstutz9
      @dstutz9 Месяц назад +2

      Not Doobie Brothers, but I like "I can see her lying back in a satin dress, in a room where you do what you don't confess". I think that might be the very best ever.

    • @mkfolsom
      @mkfolsom Месяц назад +3

      Love the lyrics to this song. It took me a while to actually understand what the song was about.

    • @youbertu
      @youbertu Месяц назад +1

      @@dstutz9 Gordon Lightfoot stood tall in a decade of songwriting titans

  • @firedoc5
    @firedoc5 Месяц назад +55

    Love the Doobie Bros. "Black Water" is what I consider their most diverse song with all its changes in it and is my all-time favorite DB song. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter is probably the most recognizable member of the band, but you'll also see him playing with several other groups.

  • @dandotvid
    @dandotvid Месяц назад +4

    It's crazy that she keeps talking about how smooth Michael's voice is. Anyone remember the Yacht Rock videos made with Hollywood Steve? Yeah, everything was *smooooooth.*

  • @Captain_Kremmen
    @Captain_Kremmen Месяц назад +7

    Michael McDonald's 'Sweet Freedom' is great too. The most 80s of 80s songs, and absolutely belongs on any happy list.

  • @twofarg0ne763
    @twofarg0ne763 Месяц назад +78

    He has one of the most unique voices in rock. As soon as I hear him sing a few notes I know it's him.

    • @chrisbenson6683
      @chrisbenson6683 Месяц назад +1

      Yes... And I know it's time to change the station. 😅
      I love his taste in music and he seems like a good dude. Just hate the sound of his voice. 🤷

    • @twofarg0ne763
      @twofarg0ne763 Месяц назад

      @@chrisbenson6683 LOL I'll let him know that everyone is not a fan :-). He lives 4 houses down the street from me. His daughter Scarlett and my daughter are the same age and were good friends in school.

    • @chrisbenson6683
      @chrisbenson6683 Месяц назад +1

      @@twofarg0ne763 nice. He really seems cool. 👍

  • @aozoratenshu
    @aozoratenshu Месяц назад +21

    I got heartbroken at a young age and it took me years to truly get over it. I had heard this song long before then, but it wasn't until I really listened to the lyrics that I realized I was the fool described. It truly helped me get past it and into a successful marriage.

  • @David-dt2md
    @David-dt2md Месяц назад +4

    "...from a long time ago..." LOL, this is from my time. I remember being at the roller rink and this playing...
    Yes, roller rink... I feel old now 😆

  • @walterwhitejr.445
    @walterwhitejr.445 Месяц назад +16

    Deceptively upbeat. I've LIVED this song. Always depresses me. Shared it once on Facebook, only to have the girl in question "like" it.
    It's about someone reconnecting with someone from their past they felt for, imagining a relationship and reciprocation existed, hoping to rekindle it when it actually didn't exist, it was in his mind. He realizes it during the conversation. She apologizes, he's already watching her go even before she leaves.
    Everyone has regrets, and we learn to move on, but songs like this twist the knife. Amazingly good song, regardless.
    For upbeat Michael Mcdonald, try "Sweet Freedom".

    • @paulwooton4390
      @paulwooton4390 Месяц назад

      Bad break, Walt.

    • @chrisross-fd3fo
      @chrisross-fd3fo Месяц назад

      @@paulwooton4390oretty subtle. pretty good icebreaker..i also think in this scenario walt is ted...and if hes ted he dodged a bullet(unless ted got shot i don't remember) cause skylars big boobs didnt make up for a bad attitude and a questionable ass

    • @chrisross-fd3fo
      @chrisross-fd3fo Месяц назад

      dude,with a much higher percentage of women than people would believe ,you will be out of sight out of mind..also their phone always works...IT ALWAYS WORKS repeat after me..the phone always works..if she doesn't answer the phone verbally (not 100% of the time but if walt here is actually your dude ya gonna pickup) then youre not the guy...if she looks at the phone and oddly goes into the bathroom..thats her guy..and before people get on my left nert.. guys... oddly look at your phone and head into the bathroom...the next time you do it all hell will break loose...so were not talking about creepy control freak..also texting is convenient but its also convenient for weasels..

    • @walterwhitejr.445
      @walterwhitejr.445 Месяц назад

      @@chrisross-fd3fo To be clear, we'd already gone through the scenario of the song, we reconnected, I was open with her in person, she made her apologies, which I accepted and bothered her no further. I'm no stalker, just a fool who believed. That part about watching her go while the conversation is still taking place, the realization of what is happening and already being resigned t it... that's a real thing, for me at least.
      Her response to my sharing the video came later, hence "twisting the knife."
      I did have the experience long ago of a girl breaking up with me in a "Dear John" email - that act made me consider I'd dodged a bullet with that one.

    • @chrisross-fd3fo
      @chrisross-fd3fo Месяц назад

      @@walterwhitejr.445 i glad u got an apology thats not very often ...now...with reasons why thats a one in a million long shot..i have plenty of women ask me why i was breaking it off..and i realized i was just as as cowardly to not give the true... not the ...its not u its me reason...the first women who gave me the truth not the polite or "kind".. ive never been so grateful...so ive done that whenever pressed for it(its not always kind if it seems hurtful) ..let me tell you..its incredibly difficult ..to say something along the lines of im not attracted to you enough to continue on..or i feel like id rather be somewhere else...but if anybody ever gives me reasons that seem genuine...i rest easy p.s.i dont think anyone thought u came across as stalkery...maybe a bad dresser but no stalker..i just reread my original text to u and its missing at least 4 lines..after me saying get off my left nert.i literally wrote i" m not talking about creep stalker guys"..i screenshotted it cause i keep getting knocked off and its frustrating to write all this half nonsense half useful stuff just to have it dissappear.sry about that

  • @guyfalcurious762
    @guyfalcurious762 Месяц назад +168

    Black water and China Grove should be next if we are listening to The Doobie Brothers

    • @buzzbomb67
      @buzzbomb67 Месяц назад +3

      Those, and Long Train Running

    • @444dkm
      @444dkm Месяц назад +1

      Yes!

    • @DrkKnght523
      @DrkKnght523 Месяц назад +2

      I'd rather have her listen to the studio versions of these tho.

    • @ericmohler5461
      @ericmohler5461 19 дней назад +1

      Black water or Listen to the Music

  • @RonLynne
    @RonLynne Месяц назад +67

    Fun fact about Jeff “Skunk” Baxter, in addition to being an amazing guitarist, and having a monster mustache, he later became an independent advisor to the DOD and US Senate on missile defense. Also I used to deliver Italian food to him when I did that job years ago.

    • @seanpaula8924
      @seanpaula8924 Месяц назад +1

      Iwas trying to remember his name, thanks.
      Skunk, just seems to fit 😂

    • @gregscanlon4278
      @gregscanlon4278 Месяц назад +5

      He was also the inspiration for Floyd, in the muppets.

    • @TheHPD71
      @TheHPD71 Месяц назад +1

      I remember him having some dialogue when they guest starred on What's Happening?

    • @jen_alanfromchicago53
      @jen_alanfromchicago53 Месяц назад

      ​@@TheHPD71which Doobie you be?

    • @rappmasterdugg6825
      @rappmasterdugg6825 Месяц назад +1

      Haha, you beat me to it!

  • @happymethehappyone8300
    @happymethehappyone8300 Месяц назад +3

    The MOST UPLIFTING song he EVER made & the absolute PERFECT way to start the day,, Bob Marley "Three Little Birds"
    ...R.I.P. Bob..One Love.🙏❤️ 🇯🇲

  • @petecogan1
    @petecogan1 Месяц назад +4

    Smoother than a fresh jar of Skippy!

  • @Noble4Truths
    @Noble4Truths Месяц назад +56

    Amazing that this will be a first time for you to hear the Doobie Brothers. You will love them!

  • @RandallMorris222
    @RandallMorris222 Месяц назад +41

    Can't say I think of this as a happy, uplifting song.

    • @calibanjr
      @calibanjr Месяц назад +10

      Absolutely, the contrast between the music and the lyrics That's the crux for me, it's a very dark song with an upbeat feel, genius to me. I mean "I believe she's never gone away" is one of the most heartbreaking phrases I've ever heard

    • @AlexanderOsias
      @AlexanderOsias Месяц назад +5

      I hear you. Despite the melody, the lyrics and the vocal performance is slowly soul-crushing.

  • @taleteller02
    @taleteller02 Месяц назад +4

    His voice is ice cream: cool, sweet, and smooth.

  • @stephenm3619
    @stephenm3619 Месяц назад +4

    I love Saturday In The Park by Chicago as a happy song". I grew up with all the Chicago area bands and Ides Of March and Chicago were playing the schools I went to. Styx too!

  • @jwa725
    @jwa725 Месяц назад +36

    Tom Johnston was The Doobie Brothers original main singer, who had left the band due to poor health, so he's not in this video. Michael McDonald filled his position and brought the band into this new blue-eyed soul, yacht rock style of music. It's almost like they are two different bands. Patrick Simmons also sings many of their songs and was there for both eras of the band.

    • @christopherwinkler4451
      @christopherwinkler4451 Месяц назад +10

      I was looking to see if anyone pointed this out. Tom is not with the band here. It's guitarist Pat Simmons and bassist Tiran Porter (and drummer Keith Knudsen on the album) providing the harmonies.

    • @christopherconard2831
      @christopherconard2831 Месяц назад +1

      Original idea for a keyboard/piano player was Daryl Dragon (AKA Captain Keyboard). Instead he decided to work with his wife, Toni Tennille on their own career.

    • @isaiahmarquez9717
      @isaiahmarquez9717 Месяц назад

      These days, both Michael McDonald AND Tom Johnston are both with the Doobies. I had the privilege of seeing them in Raleigh, NC a few years back. Fantastic show!

  • @MrEric622
    @MrEric622 Месяц назад +79

    Michael has one of the most distinctive recorded voices ever. His work with Christopher Cross is excellent.

    • @michaelstiller2282
      @michaelstiller2282 Месяц назад +1

      I just learned Dudley Moore was a world class pianist, and actually played "Arthur's Theme song with Chris live.

    • @gregorymccasland2874
      @gregorymccasland2874 Месяц назад

      @@michaelstiller2282 Have you seen Arthur? He’s plays the piano all through it. He’s known for his piano chops.

  • @neilgelinas9926
    @neilgelinas9926 Месяц назад +4

    Went in 2017 to Classic East. Saw The Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Journey, Earth wind and Fire and the Eagles. Two Nights before Saw Kansas. Best weekend of my life so far.

  • @harvey66616
    @harvey66616 Месяц назад +3

    Well! If there's now the "happy songs that are actually sad" list...
    "Pumped Up Kicks", by Foster the People, would rank right up there. Fun, poppy, danceable vibe, hiding serious lyrics to think about.

  • @chrisbarlow2131
    @chrisbarlow2131 Месяц назад +42

    Am I alone in thinking that The Charismatic Voice after discovering Michael McDonald, is slowly but surely drifting towards the wonderful Steely Dan?

  • @MsOwl22
    @MsOwl22 Месяц назад +42

    His voice is like cheesecake, creamy smooth and lusciously sweet!

    • @neil2444
      @neil2444 Месяц назад +5

      Too much sweetness can be nauseating. When Liz called it like caramel, my mind immediately went to salted caramel. The saltiness counterbalances. (Love the food discourse fyi)

    • @barryhall5125
      @barryhall5125 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@neil2444Pretty good take!

    • @DaveStDave
      @DaveStDave Месяц назад +3

      Dulce de leche

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass Месяц назад

      A plain New York cheesecake with a glass of white wine

  • @RomanC3098
    @RomanC3098 Месяц назад +3

    So happy you chose this song. One of my all time favorites

  • @leekarr4909
    @leekarr4909 Месяц назад +2

    I've seen The Doobie Brothers live a half dozen times and when I saw them in 2022 for their 50th anniversary tour they were the best they'd ever sounded! They blew me away with their harmonies, right up their with The Eagles and Crosby, Stills and Nash. They are still touring and if you have the chance to catch them, do so, you won't regret it. Looking forward to you reacting to more from them. Black Water is so good, perhaps that one next. Thank you for brightening our days with your ❤ of music!

  • @erco9167
    @erco9167 Месяц назад +23

    I LOVE how McDonald crams all the words into his songs, and his biggest charting moment was a 6 word phrase on a Christopher Cross song

    • @frankmcbride7051
      @frankmcbride7051 Месяц назад +9

      Such a long way to gooooooooo

    • @hughdalton7622
      @hughdalton7622 Месяц назад +8

      And every person I know tries to do an impression of michael mcdonald at that part of the song.

    • @erco9167
      @erco9167 Месяц назад +5

      @@hughdalton7622 guilty

  • @terryross1754
    @terryross1754 Месяц назад +34

    The older generation always thinks its music was best. But, no apologies, if you grew up in the 60's thru to now, you've experienced some of history's best musicians and their music. There are some brilliant new singers and songs today, but I miss the driving, continual, innovative buzz of exploding musical change and talent that surrounded the 60's, 70's and 80's.

    • @midi510
      @midi510 Месяц назад +4

      Something that can't really be argued is that there was an explosion of instrumentation and recording technology in the 50s - 70s. The production techniques, also. And so much of what was written and recorded was entirely new in human history. Now, you can make really good music, but it's gonna sound like something that's already been done. The playing field was so open back then.
      ( The recording technologies of the digital age have given artists the ability to break away from the monopoly of the record companies, but doesn't really broaden the horizons. Yeah, I have digital emulations of 50 different classic keyboards and dozens of realistic pianos in my studio, not to mention a full orchestra, but it's what I might do with them that really counts.)

    • @terryross1754
      @terryross1754 Месяц назад +4

      @@midi510 Valid comment. But I see the technology only as an (incredibly important) enabling medium. For me the magic ingredient was the sheer volume of innovative creative musicians who not only wrote unique music and verse, but also performed it in new ways, often making it a part of their own personality, or creating whole new genres of 'sound'. e.g. Joe Cocker, Janis Joplin, Kate Bush, Elton John, The Beatles, Tracy Chapman, Beach Boys, ELO, Joni Mitchell, ABBA, The Band, Falco, Muddy Waters, T. Rex, all the Tamla Motown artists, Bob Dylan, and hundreds or thousands more.

    • @victorbradshaw7359
      @victorbradshaw7359 Месяц назад

      Sorry I didn't think that way I knew it was that way 😂

    • @alankott3129
      @alankott3129 Месяц назад

      I can only speak for myself, but, being a kid of the 60's my emotional connections to music were stronger then. That may be why I am not as moved by present day music.

    • @terryross1754
      @terryross1754 Месяц назад

      @@alankott3129 You are probably right. I believe we all experience music more intensely when young, and often have less time or attention for it as life priorities take over. But I've considered that, and still stand by my observation. However, it's possible that my basic premise for good music - it's format, tone and rhythm - is excluding some modern genres that just don't click with me. E.g. I never liked modern jazz, wallpaper noise, most scat/rap or balkan/arabic music. But I can respect the skill that goes into modern jazz, while I struggle to find much musical skill in rap or manele. I'm more into Django Rheinhardt or Satchmo. Zaz or popular opera. But there is still some incredibly good music being made today.

  • @MrBedZeppelin
    @MrBedZeppelin Месяц назад +3

    Buttery smooth, Michael does sing in a consistent tone and sings great also in "harmonies' playing with Steely Dan, Dire Straits and many more. Could be the hardest working vocalist, at this point lending that BUTTER to many that seek him out. Great selection! Thanks!!

  • @sunshinefogleman127
    @sunshinefogleman127 6 дней назад

    Oh, The Doobie Brothers got harmonies out of this world!

  • @TSrocksnc
    @TSrocksnc Месяц назад +38

    The Doobie Brother were known for their amazing vocal harmonies. Thank you for showing them some love. I would suggest China Grove, Long Train Running or Taking it to the streets for more excellence from them.

  • @user-hc6uo5fp8n
    @user-hc6uo5fp8n Месяц назад +13

    One of my favourite songs is this one Christopher Cross & Michael McDonald | Ride Like The Wind.

  • @user-gk3lu1gg9t
    @user-gk3lu1gg9t 29 дней назад +1

    I saw Doobie Brothers last year and they still sound amazing. Michael sounds like he's in his prime

  • @sulfurlad
    @sulfurlad 5 дней назад

    Love the videos you make because the love for music is so apparent. Your reaction to that first harmony in the chorus reminds me of the first time I heard the Doobies.
    We got our first car with a tape deck, I must have been like 8-10; I don't even remember what city we were living in. I do remember sitting in the car with my mom while my dad was picking up one more thing at the mall, and it was a "Best of the Doobie Brothers" tape. I still remember the joy on his face getting back to the car, and we listened to that thing front to back.
    That was a long time ago, and he's been gone 14 years now, but I still clearly remember his smile as he got back into the car and ripped the tape open to share it with my brother and I. Music made him emotional, it does the same to me, and it's awesome to see others so affected by songs connected to my memories.
    Thank you for the joy, and for the reminder of a wonderful moment and car ride that I'll never forget. ❤

  • @fusiliers
    @fusiliers Месяц назад +18

    A great example of upbeat music and heartbreaking lyrics. One of my favorite pop songs, it's been on my Long, Dark, Night of the Soul Playlist for 40+years.

  • @bellaimages
    @bellaimages Месяц назад +12

    "Happy songs that are actually sad" nails this one! I love the Doobie Brothers music! This was a great song choice! "What A Fool Believes" is actually part of the sound track of my life. During my very early 20's I was dating a young lady I was "head Over Heals" in love with. She had made the first moves and it wasn't long before she had me "hook, line and sinker" as we say in fishing terms. We were both going through changes in our lives that are typical for young adults. I was in no way mature enough to be ready to settle down and get marreid, although I didn't see it at the time. I asked her to marry me, but she didn't see me as being able to be a good provider in the future as I was so absorbed with creating photography and music .. I was and still am very much a creative artist who has never made a lot of money from my work. She moved on leaving me broken hearted, as she married a dentist who could be a good "provider" .. this all happened in the early 80's after this song had won Grammies and was played all over the air waves. I relate to and understand "What A Fool Believes" so much .. even more so now. "Tis better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.." - Alfred Tennyson
    While the World seems to be a "Ball Of Confusion" with differences often regarding poltiics and religion, the love of music unites so many of us in friendship, and sometimes more. Elizabeth, what you are doing with your broadcasts spreading the joy of music is simply wonderful! I'm a singer too, and have learned much from listening to your analysis of songs. I also appreciate your reactions to many of the songs that I remember from my youth. I think everyone of us has experienced being "fools" in love. Best wishes always to you and your wonderful family!

  • @markhennigar748
    @markhennigar748 Месяц назад +2

    Saw them in concert 1980. Michael McDonald, such a great vocalist. Doobies, Steely Dan, Chris Cross etc. icon.

  • @russward2612
    @russward2612 Месяц назад +1

    One of the best days of my life was a late July Saturday in 1993 when I attended an open air show at the Utah State Fair Park.
    The lineup included Iron Butterfly, Rare Earth, Blue Oyster Cult, The Guess Who and The Doobie Brothers.
    The Doobie Brothers took the stage at sunset.
    The crowd was facing west, over the Great Salt Lake while a thunderstorm brewed up at sunset. It was spectacular with mother nature providing the special effects like that.
    The music was pretty good too.

  • @RubyWings
    @RubyWings Месяц назад +34

    Throwing in a vote to do Black Water, absolutely one of my favorite melodies ever

  • @youbertu
    @youbertu Месяц назад +20

    Shout out to Skunk Baxter's Barco Lounger guitar rig and the iconic Sennheiser MD409-N microphone...this was a live recording on a soundstage, not lip-synced to the studio version! The Takin' It To The Streets version of this recording is also outstanding, and Pat Simmons leading Black Water is a gem. ALL LIVE, ALL REAL, ALL DOOBIES!

    • @richtes
      @richtes Месяц назад +1

      This is what I always think of when people think a concert has to have a bunch of naked people running around wild on stage with a 100 lasers. These guys were great live

  • @ernestobarrera4767
    @ernestobarrera4767 Месяц назад +1

    One of my favorite songs.

  • @francoisrichard4605
    @francoisrichard4605 Месяц назад +1

    Another of their great songs, often forgotten, Minute By Minute, the Intro is priceless 😊

  • @EverydayEvan
    @EverydayEvan Месяц назад +18

    This song is very near and dear to my heart. When I was a kid in the late 70s, my uncle introduced me to the Doobies. He was a huge fan. This song was played at his funeral during the slide show. I always think of him whenever I hear this, or any DB song for that matter. Love it! ❤

  • @theubercaste
    @theubercaste Месяц назад +21

    Wouldn’t have said this was an uplifting, happy song.

    • @TheChristafershawn
      @TheChristafershawn Месяц назад +3

      The vibe of the music and melodies is what she was referring to, in contrast to the lyrical content.

    • @msoileau83
      @msoileau83 Месяц назад +3

      Lyrically no

  • @lorih2853
    @lorih2853 2 дня назад

    There was a reason MacDonald was the voice of the 70s and into the 80s. His voice was everywhere during my teens, to the point where I could recognize almost instantly. I love that you came up with smooth after hearing one line of lyrics. :)

  • @AlanDasher
    @AlanDasher 4 дня назад

    This girl is just so fun to watch LOL! The facial expressions and her bouncy attitude are just so intoxicating.. really a lot of fun😂

  • @neokonline_
    @neokonline_ Месяц назад +8

    A cousin of mine was the touring bass guitarist with the doobie brothers for 15 years! Great band, love that you are checking them out

  • @KarlRKaiser
    @KarlRKaiser Месяц назад +1

    I was also in junior high when this song came out. It was popular and got a lot of airplay (on the radio) and it always created a happy mood.

  • @MikeBarnett1776
    @MikeBarnett1776 Месяц назад +1

    The guitarist in the yellow shirt and sunglasses is Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, who played in The Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, and Spirit, amongst other bands. His study of the mathematics and algorithms of music convolutedly (it's an interesting story, search engines are your friend) led him to the mathematics and algorithms of, interestingly, missile defense systems, and he's now a missile defense strategy consultant to the US military and Congress. This reminds me a lot of my late brother Greg, an excellent guitarist, who was also a satellite launch, orbit, and deployment programmer, and told me more than once it was a lot more similar to music than people would expect.

  • @flounder31
    @flounder31 Месяц назад +5

    I always took this song in a "Tears Of A Clown" context. Very melancholy message, but in a super upbeat song.

  • @MissingMars
    @MissingMars Месяц назад +8

    Liver version too! This band was studio perfect even on the stage. No auto tune, studio trickery here. The band Chicago also comes to mind! Thanks Liz

  • @tomcurtis8431
    @tomcurtis8431 28 дней назад

    I have loved this song ever since it came out and I thoroughly enjoyed how you just broke it all down. Thank you. You’re so good at this.

  • @ThePrincessPersefone
    @ThePrincessPersefone Месяц назад +46

    Michael McDonald and Patti LaBelle duet of On My Own. Simply amaze balls.

  • @TheGhungFu
    @TheGhungFu Месяц назад +7

    When the album Minute by Minute was recorded, McDonald told a freind he hated it. His friend, after he listened to it, asked McDonald if he had lost his mind.

  • @miked91101
    @miked91101 Месяц назад +1

    I was born in 1969 listening to AM pop radio music in my parent's car, eventually a friend got me into Kiss music around 1976 until about 1980... as the early 80's progressed i was into Ozzy, Dio, Iron Maiden, and Def Leppard etc. after all these years Doobie Brothers "What A Fool Believes" is still 1 of my top feel-good listening songs, along with another 1970's song by Nicolette Larson "Lotta Love" which you definitely should hear sometime Elizabeth 😊

  • @etaoinbshrdlu
    @etaoinbshrdlu Месяц назад +1

    I've watched a lot of your response videos, a few a later time. It's impressive to see you get things at a first listen, when I've heard the song many times, and you pull out things, not just vocal nerd things, but remarkable things opening up what the song is communicating, and how the art in it is crafted to deliver the message. Well done. Very.

  • @user-ro8qq7nx3t
    @user-ro8qq7nx3t Месяц назад +15

    DOOBIE BROTHERS , to me was a super group, every member was super talented, and in my opinion, one of the best harmonizing groups ever 👍🍀

  • @barrymuller5131
    @barrymuller5131 Месяц назад +6

    A warm cup of tea with honey and lemon. I went to a concert in the 70s in Sioux City, Iowa that featured the Doobie Brothers, Kansas, and Rush. It was soooo good. After Rush I think my hearing was damaged.

  • @brianmorrow5350
    @brianmorrow5350 13 дней назад

    As a song that stands on its own, this, in my opinion, is one of the best.
    The truth is that women have such power when it comes to how men feel inside it is hard to express.
    It's something that was wired into our brains probably since the beginning of humans.
    Love your work!!!

  • @bmrmel
    @bmrmel Месяц назад +1

    One of the greatest voices of the era, and from my birth city! 😊

  • @jeffcampbell3369
    @jeffcampbell3369 Месяц назад +13

    The gentleman sitting while playing the guitar is, Jeff (skunk,) Baxter, who came over to the Doobies from Steely Dan. He’s also adding vocal harmonies. Love your genuine love of music! Whether you react or not, watch the Live version of “Taking it to the streets” with Michael on vocals. You won’t be disappointed!👍🎼

    • @SnarleySteve
      @SnarleySteve Месяц назад +1

      He was also responsible for bringing McDonald to the band.

    • @rex2837
      @rex2837 Месяц назад +1

      Mcd also collaborated w/ steely Dan as well

    • @christopherconard2831
      @christopherconard2831 Месяц назад +1

      I think at one point almost every member worked with Steely Dan.

  • @dartmart9263
    @dartmart9263 Месяц назад +40

    You need to listen to “I Keep Forgetting” by Michael McDonald

  • @thesouthernwake
    @thesouthernwake Месяц назад +2

    MM is a legend. Somehow still under appreciated. E - amazing reaction and love - you never fail to appreciate the talent most don’t see. Always.

  • @gettingkilt
    @gettingkilt Месяц назад +2

    Michael McDonald's voice is astonishing. To me he always sounds deep and rich even when he's in his head voice. And it's really beautifully blended.

  • @namtooh50
    @namtooh50 Месяц назад +14

    i would recommend listen to the music, long train runnin, rockin down the highway, take me in your arms,without you. all these tunes are with the original members tom johnston and pat simmons. michael mcdoanld joined the band later on in the 70s. these early songs are much more rocking tunes!!!

    • @sueparras6028
      @sueparras6028 Месяц назад +4

      Yes! The earlier tunes are much more rockin'!

    • @threecedarshomestead1330
      @threecedarshomestead1330 Месяц назад +1

      Michael McDonald in the Denny Crane of The Doobie Brothers. Totally took over and totally changed their direction.

    • @BradCross1982
      @BradCross1982 Месяц назад

      @@threecedarshomestead1330Yes totally different, I much prefer the earlier stuff pre McDonald

  • @AdmiralDonkey
    @AdmiralDonkey Месяц назад +12

    Doobies are great. I think Listen To The Music is one of their best, great upbeat & feel good track. Long Train Runnin’ another excellent one (studio/album version). For Michael though, you’ve got to check out either I Keep Forgettin’ or his duet with Patti LaBelle in On My Own. Incredible voice.

  • @mattknez1133
    @mattknez1133 3 дня назад

    I saw the Doobie Brothers in concert in 1990 at the Submarine Base in Groton CT while I was stationed there. Great concert.

  • @Stuboy
    @Stuboy Месяц назад +1

    What got me into michael McDonald and then the Doobie Brothers was his solo song Yah Mo Be There , i got hooked to that song as a teenager and theres No looking back to coin his song since 🇬🇧

  • @neiloliver4745
    @neiloliver4745 Месяц назад +6

    Saw them last fall and they are one of the only bands of that era that can still soar. They still LOVE what they do.

  • @MrUnsolvedMystery
    @MrUnsolvedMystery Месяц назад +9

    Great classic rock band and continuous air play on radio for decades! You’ll love this band!

  • @billofalltrades2633
    @billofalltrades2633 Месяц назад +1

    Love the Doobie Brothers! Great reaction!

  • @sombojoe
    @sombojoe Месяц назад +3

    “This from a very lllooooooonngg time ago in the 70s.”
    Oh geez thank! Haha

  • @jamesgarlena5612
    @jamesgarlena5612 Месяц назад +5

    That was sweet to hear you talk about your 2 guys. I remember my wife saying stuff like that, which was quickly followed by "but the kitchen is not going to paint itself!!" What a fool believes.

  • @LucLightWolf121
    @LucLightWolf121 Месяц назад +6

    A bona fide classic.
    My parents jammed to this when I was a kid in the early 1980's. Michael McDonald ran the early to mid 1980's, it's not even a joke. Great times. Great memories. I miss those days.

  • @baddog4176
    @baddog4176 Месяц назад +1

    Love the reaction. Wonderful song and props to the harmonies without auto tune.

  • @thomassicard3733
    @thomassicard3733 Месяц назад

    One of your best, most entertaining analyses, yet! Thanks - loved it!!!

  • @rudolphpyatt4833
    @rudolphpyatt4833 Месяц назад +4

    One of the absolutely timeless classics that makes me glad I am old enough to have enjoyed it from new. For all the up and peppy tunefulness, it's such a bittersweet lyric.

  • @GgergS
    @GgergS Месяц назад +5

    They're on tour and still killing it as old men.

    • @techbutterflymaps9873
      @techbutterflymaps9873 Месяц назад

      Just saw them a couple of months ago! They're touring with both Tom Johnston and Michael McDonald, so they're doing all their greatest hits, from both eras of the band. It was great!