How to Turn your ART into a BUSINESS - (Feat. Gary Vee)
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2016
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EVERY single interview I've watched Gary do, I've always wanted to ask "Gary how do I apply this to art?" Drop a like one time on this video for Jazza coming through strong for the community!!! 👌👌👌
preach man, exactly my thoughts
Guttamind Animation uhhhhhhhhh what
Guttamind Animation what
what
Very informative. Can I send this interview to myself 15 years ago?
yes
Hahaha funny 😄👍
😁 Better later than never.
I agree. This is the kind of advice I wish I'd stumbled upon years ago. But, whenever I learn something I wish I'd had learned sooner, I always consider myself lucky to have learned it that day instead of, say, 15 years in the future. 😁
😅😅😅 I feel u..
Haha if only.
I say that 2 years after this comment was posted.
At least you're not as late as me.
He said something that really hit me in the stomach and made me realize what I’m doing wrong: I keep looking at the pretty sides and thinking it’s as easy a posting on Instagram and just hoping people will come and see it. But I gotta realize it’s more than that. I guess when I watch my favorite artist do there studio vlogs and see them I just think to myself...”this I want this. I want to sit in a studio and draw have a pretty website. Package my orders all nice and send em off and do it all again. Not truly realizing what it’s gonna take to get there. I guess for me it’s because whenever they talk about it seems like it happens so naturally so I’m think okay work at a company get exposure and it’ll happen. But now I know that I need to look into the less desirable stuff like business and marketing. Saving. Taxes all the stuff I need to manage myself to be able to have the pretty side of being an artist and doing what I love.
Reality is what you make it mate!
If your good at something never do it for free.
- Joker
Even p---------s know this!
There are a lot of beginner artists charging $60 a work that even a toddler can draw better lol
Artists are compelled to work for free A LOT. It's not been a good thing for us. It's the rest of the world with "entitlement". I have gained nothing from working for free. If someone tells you it's "good for your portfolio" or "I'll give you exposure", produce the work, then I'll sell it and you'll get a percentage", RUN! Only you can be the judge what is good exposure for you. The vast majority of those people are yahoos who know nothing of the art biz.
Maybe if we got paid $100,000 a gig like ol' Gary here, we could be more flexible, but let's get real.
It detriment for the art industry for people to work for free for exposure it helps no one unfortunately, the "exposure" is really cutting corners for exploiters
Agreed
It's a give and take. You give a little free, you build a connection. But it has to be on your terms. What you are building is not exposure, but rather leverage. You eat shit for enough years while sustaining and you will have a stable of connections you can tap for projects YOU want to do, knowing you have good business contacts to support you. This is where you go out and mingle with people at local collectives. This is where you venture out BEYOND your art circle to business associations. This is where you start to go to meetings thrown by your local arts commissions. You do something for free, something small, you build leverage. Don't go out to bars and restaurants and local shops or galleries that say "hey blah blah blah, exposure". Draft a contract for commissions. Draft a contract for proposals. Draft a contract for galleries. Get up on your business side. You will miss out on 99% of potential clients because they never leave the potential stage because you will either be too business savvy to get over on, or, sadly, you don't have the notoriety. This is where you have to be real honest with youself and stop blaming people giving you sound advice. The details of the situations are different but the general execution is analogous. You just have to up your game and stop trying to scapegoat people more successful than you are at what you are bad at. There was a time Gary was just like you, no exposure, doing shit for free. But with a purpose. Building LEVERAGE. Change how you see "exposure" into an investment with long term ROI potential and you'll start to see the avenues and lanes you can profit on. Maybe not money, right away. But if you need money go make some. Hustle. Grind. Fuck your art. Get a job. Have three or 4 hustles. I've been at this for 20 years professionally, seen every scenario, owned a gallery, been in several shows garnering worldwide attention. It can be done if you stop Bitching and blaming others and take control of your business. If not. That's on you.
Next time someone says pay in exposure, they better be sending nudes
People who want to pay cheap prices, or even get free stuff, are surprisingly more demanding than normal paying clients anyway. So I don't even bother with that kind, as it is more likely that I'm the one giving them some exposure in the end.
Jazza, I cannot explain how much I appreciate you posting these kinds of resources for us. I found you a while back, and I've stuck around because you provide comprehensive guides on so many different subjects, and it all seems designed around helping as many people as you can. So many times I've been stuck on something with no idea on where to start looking and it turns out you've got a video on that exact subject. This is another one of those times. Thank you!
+Skye Raven so grateful for your kind feedback! I'm really really glad you've found my videos helpful. Thanks so much for sticking around!
And as a teen artist, it’s a bit more difficult to sell art 🤷🏾♀️ BUT I won’t give up 😤
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💅💅
stick to it! You'll figure out what works for you :)
Fumstix where can we find photos of your art? Do you have an Instagram? I am looking for artists
@@PumpernickelCoconut I'm making portrait commissions if you're interested
instagram.com/graffted1/
U are lucky u are teen iam 13 years old but my art is fantastic people don't look at my art they judge it from my age
I'm amazed Garyvee doesn't know what Patreon is. THIS GUY IS LAZER FOCUSED AND STAYS IN HIS LANE.
Even idk what a patreon is. I've heard about it but idk how it works , but I'll be using tht in future coz I am an artist & I need to get my shit out there
Yeah me too I don't understand patron that much or at all, but I maybe will use it in the future.
Maybe patreon was new when this interview got recorded.
Patreon is something u offer when u have ur free content medium shit together.. But have more depth to offer.. If u have that depth.. Or "secrets." U sell them there.. U dont sell the same shit u put on youtube.. It's slightly like a makeshift classroom if u want it to be.. By then u would be better off making ur own website.
@@danrazART Patreon was founded back in 2013, about 3 years and 6 months before this video was uploaded.
Enough for the platform to be around for awhile, but excusable to not know the details of--especially if you don't really deal in niches that Patreon is most relevant to. (Kinda like Redbubble or Gumroad to non-artists.)
I shall forever say "Entre-pen-nuah"
lol nice
Thank you, thank you very much:3
same ahahahahaha
Entreprenauouaugh.
Isla M. 👏👅
Jazza I've followed u for years and found Gary early this year......IM SUPER AMAZED THAT THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARSB AND NEW FOR ME. THANK U!!!!
Watched this video a year ago and it was my first introduction to Gary Vee. Cant thank you enough for getting an interview with him Jazza.
I love Jazza's face in this video. Gary just says flat out all the stuff Jazza is too nice to say and he loves it. :0
Jazza you do your audience a great service! im so happy to have come accross your channel. Thank you!
Just when I thought I had watched all of Jazza videos, and this gem pops up in my feed. Been trying to ask Gary this question for months and turns out he's already answered my questions, 3 years ago... Damn.
Thanks 🙏🏻 Jazza and Gary for your invaluable time. Sending much ❤️ and appreciation.
Gary Vee is the man!! Been listening to him for almost as long as I’ve been following you Jaza!!! Great show love to watch things unfold and bring you to together like this!
I was so lucky to have followed the interview to the end, I must commend and appreciate you for this interview you did with Gary! That tip he gave about getting a client at the end of the video helped me secure a job today. Thank you both. I just had to come to find this video again to appreciate, THANK YOU.
It's amazing that you did this Interview Jazza! I've know about GaryVee for quite some time. But, just recently been motivated to watch his content. With patience, I have hopes to be more visible in the Art community.
Jazza I love you even more. I'm in a time in my life where I literally ask these questions everyday!
Ahhh I'm so happy! DRAW WITH JAZZZA!
Wow Jazza! I think this is one of your most helpful video's. Thank you so much for sharing. We are blessed to have you help us grow. One love
since a year i have been making a business out of my drawings, but sometimes i do get insecure. i am not inovative or something and my art is not 'new'. sometimes i really feel you have to like create something totally new or original to be able to get known in the artworld, which is really frustrating because i'm enjoying doing realistic portraitsXD
Gary's advice is great though! it takes a lot of hard work to make a business out of your art.
maybe you don't need a crazy new style, you just need to find a way to put yourself out there in a crazy new way :)
I struggle with the same issues. I've not yet started a business but I do wonder whether my art (animal portraits mostly) will speak to people. Many artists do animal paintings and I don't have a particular style that sets me apart from other artists. The things I posted on Deviant Art so far get some attention but nothing spectacular in the least and I really wonder how I could make it more appealing to audiences. I do have to stress that I still have much to learn before I'll actually be good enough to consider selling my art. But yeah, a traditional piece of art doesn't turn many heads and it does feel like you have to introduce something completely new to get noticed.
I think as I mature, learn and grow (with learning always being a main focus) I can tell you that being vulnerable and passionate has a power that speaks to people. I think that Brene' Brown has helpful videos to help us learn to put ourselves out there and then be ready to be rejected and criticized.....but to know that people will respect you and be intrigued by you if you just don't care and you continue on your journey. We artists need to support each other emotionally and in any other way we can!! The competition out there is TOUGH but we each have unique twists on things with our own creativity and life experiences which will lead us each down special journeys. I suggest getting to know some local business people and art gallery owners. Just get out there and talk to them, share your art (if you dare : ) and see where it takes you. If you have lots to learn, as I do, then learn a little every day. But don't let discouragement tell you that you aren't good enough. You have unique creativity....you just gotta make it work for you. It takes time and don't forget to enjoy the ride!! Hang in there! I too get overwhelmed with how many good artists are already out there.
Leontine van vliet oh my God. The insecurity of being unoriginal. I get it.
I do everything and anything in a variety of mediums and haven't found my "niche" or my style hasn't "settled"
My mom was my only collector for over a decade.
Craft shows, poetry nights, music nights, Colaborations, participating in art collectives, curating shows, being surrounded by people who inspire and motivate through their own creative process helped so much with that voice of doubt.
You're a realism artist; that's highly marketable art and there's beauty in the real world that helps people see through realism. If that's what you enjoy doing keep doing it! :D I used to do alot of realism and selling portraits and stuff but its not for me; if you love it keep doing it! I think that's awesome, your work is great! Also...I noticed alot of people successful in realism add an artsy twist to their portraits. Take a look at bokkei. ;)
this is exactly the interview i wanted to hear. wish there was more of this out there for entrepreneur artists. i went to school for animation so i mostly only understand the studio/freelance art side.
I just found this now! ...How am I just finding this now!!! Thanks Jazza and Gary!
I love Gary and having him speak about business particularly in the art field was awesome. Question 2 was my fav. It confirmed what I'm doing now, which is staying in my lane. I don't want to draw whatever is trending just to get a sell. Great interview!!
we all know why Gary agreed anyway, he's a savvy business man, he knows we'll go to his channel and see what he's got to offer xD
partially true joke aside, love the fact he did do it and did it with you Jazza, you're not just an amazing artist, you're an inspiring one too, making tons of people want to pick up their pencil, regardless of traditional or digital, and start drawing!
Love your work my good man!
im gonna try to turn my art into business
ayyyye verified youtube channel!
Congrats!
AAAND, now he's a verified art channel
🤣🤣he's already monetazing his art by creating a yt channel
Such a great progress... I will try to do this to my channel
Thank you for posting this interview. Much appreciated.
This has been the best interview Jazza has done for helping me get an understanding of where to start. Thank you Jazza! I'll never forget this moment
Those nails must be delicious.
I was thinking the same thing. Poor thing, onychophagia is a bitch.
Yeahh
my 2 favorites in one video!
Gosh. The best questions and the best answers.
Hell yeah man!! Totally stoked to watch this!! Big fan of both of you guys!
Amazing Video Jazza - thanks to Gary for doing this for us :)
Wow, this was so informative! I've actually never heard of Gary Vee until now. I'll have to check him out. Excellent interview!
yassssss! love this crossover, always watch gary vee's vids, he's crazy inspirational.
So much great stuff in this video. Thanks!
FOUND IT!... Man Jazza, you gtta put Gary in the Thumbnail
Was that a pun?
This man seem's really rational and practical thinking, thats exactly how you got to think if you really want to make money out of your creative works IMO :)
Patience, education, execution, and never quitting until you get it.
Man, I'm so glad I found this video! It's strategic in a personal way. Gary makes such amazing points in this field! I had no idea how much art had to do with business. Thank you so much for this video!! Gary is a brilliant businessman, holy cow!!
What? How did I not see this video earlier? Ahh awesome.
Why are there more comments about the title rather than the content of the video? Great information, and great honesty! Thanks
this is the most valuable thing i have watched in weeks! thanks for gary vees platform links followed on all. and above all, a BIG thank you to you jazza ;)
Jazza thanks for what you doing..keep inspiring 😇
This actually helps me! I'm 13, and really want to take on animation (such as steven universe style) but I want to start super early! Anyways, thanks so much Jazza for giving me opportunities to pursue my dream! Love ya man! You're awesome!
That's great!
I love animation
but its stressful
remember you will cry because of it but never give up
the feeling you get when your finished is beyond amazing and is worth it
+Miquib cool
I'm 12 and I've tried animating, but I'm too lazy and there's to many frames to draw (especially when you have Windows Movie Maker and you're poor AF) ;;∆;;
Im 12 years old and I love art and animation you can take my suggestion or not but buy a drawing pad and download a free animation app on your computer and draw I haven't seen your are but I'm pretty sure you're good
gary is a genius
Fantastic! Just what I needed. Thank you !
Fabulous. This is just great content. Going to listen again!!! Man, great questions, and great answers! Thanks Jazza!
Gary is knowledgeable and all, but he misunderstood the first-animator question. Yes, everything is hard, but you could make 3 songs, 15 gameplay videos before making one 6 minute animation. It's very time consuming and the rewards are slim. I'm not an animator, god no, but if i were, i'd wonder if it's worth the time too.
Other than that little gripe, great video.
codec69 if your saying if it's worth it as in "money" it's one of the most unstable job's I know financially, independently.
Thats a fact. Ive been trynna teach myself anination and its overwhelming how time consiming it is. I got a lot of plans and ideas, i just need to learn to love the process and master the skill
Psychicpebbles said it in a great way I’m paraphrasing of course but he essentially said: “People tell me about they’re hard jobs in construction or whatever, and they say they only have one or two vacation days but they don’t work on the weekends. Dude I don’t have one day off I’m working nearly 10-12 hours a day everyday of the year. You get $80,000 a year. I slave away drawing the same thing over and over again, spending 20-30 minutes on each frame, spending an hour or two for one second of an animation for only enough for me to eat. I have very few luxuries. You live in a house I live in a tiny apartment. If you break a hammer it’s like what, $20? If I break my tablet it’s $1000. I have to constantly worry about flash not crashing 20 million times. You tell me I’m privileged? And you ask why I do this? Because I enjoy it. I love it. And after all of that, I get just enough to live. You wouldn’t survive one day in my shoes.” That whole speech really stuck with me. He’s a really cool guy. Sleepy cast has a lot of episodes where they talk about the struggles of animators and artists and they give amazing advice because they did it.
So basically, if you care about it, do it. Don’t waste your life in a place where you hate your life. It’s too short for that kind of suffering.
If you want to get jobs as an animator... you're going to need a demoreel. That means you're going to have to do work for free (even if its for yourself) so you can made a demoreel. Nobody's going to hire you as an animator if you have nothing to show the quality of work you can produce. And if you havent had any job experience as an animator, and especially if you're applying to work at a studio.... chances are you're going to have to do an art test, so they can see the quality of work you can put out under a specific time limit, especially if you're going for anything under a senior animator position. So you're still going to end up doing work for free to get that job.
Its different for freelance but the point is even as an animator, you're going to be expected to at some point in time to produce seconds of animation for free.
He seemed more focused on his nails than Jazza.
No he is listening, seems like a bad habit of biting nails. I have that problem too, it helps you focus in a weird way.
I bite the skin around my nails when I'm nervous.
No, he seemed attentive with a anxious habit. Fidgeting helps people with fast working brains process what people are saying. I play games on my phone when I really need to concentrate on what someone is saying. I'm kinda tired of the trope that if you're not making eye contact, you're not listening. How in the hell can you listen on the phone then? lmao.
Yes i noticed that as well.lol That's because he doesn't care what he's saying. He's only chatting with him as a sales contact. Artists
should stay away from business people such as him & do their own thing.
Qanita Abbasi I think he has adhd
This was very insightful! Thanks for posting this video Jazza!
That was brilliant. Loved the focused answers!
Thank you for the interview. Here a question: How do you find the perfect business-partner? Not everyone is lucky to marry a wife with business talent. The Problem is, that artists usually hang around other artists, who don´t have a clue about business... Do you have useful suggestions about this topic?
Wow! I'm early! Wait... That doesn't sound right... Let me try that again... Wow! I'm on time! Can't wait to watch the video Jazza! Hope everyone is having a wonderful day/evening!
Maybe its early as like the lifetime of this video early
Wow, this is huge Jazza! Great idea, and I highly suggest to anyone watching to find Gary’s other videos/podcasts. His language is often crude, but he gets straight to the point. Congratulations again Jazza!!
I love grey vee. Been watching his stuff for little over a year and a half. Awesome video.
I follow both of you separately !!! This is so awesome
same!
Same
Me too!!
That was actually super helpful. I 100% need a business partner.
Informative and inspiring! as a retired social worker who has been a creative for 69 years (five years old) I have sold art on a regular basis. I owed a custom framing business to support and promote my art! Worked by commission (at times frustrating) and completed community art for free! Gary’s focus is extremely helpful!
OH MY GOD. I know this video is a few years old, but I just saw it a few weeks ago and this was my intro to Gary Vee. Ever since then, I've been watching his stuff and my perspective is changing so much. Thank you so much for this video. I don't know how I didn't see it before, but I'm glad I saw it when I did. Better late than never!
I think he misinterpreted the monetization question. He seemed to think it was talking about game design vs. self-employed artist, when it seemed to me like it was more about how hard it can be to be found on RUclips specifically compared to people who just do lets plays and gaming content and vlogs and shit.
Good interview but I'm a bit hung up on the "entitlement" thing. Art is fun but it isn't always easy. If I'm trying to turn it into a business, shouldn't I be getting paid for it? How is that entitlement? I think it's more entitled when people think you should draw something for them for free. I think the only time I would do something for free would be for family or friends. Not always, but if they asked me to draw a character for them, I'd be happy too. It'd be good practice for me but you can't do that on the regular when you're trying to turn it into a business.
librarose79 he's right and you are too. Entitlement does tend to fall on both sides, the artist and the person that wants work done for free. But he is right in the fact that a good salesman realizes they have to put time in in order to secure the sale later.
yeah but i think a salesman doing more to land a sale is more analogous to say, an artist doing more initial mock ups or corrections later for no more money than just giving the whole artwork for free. Going the extra mile and working hard is different than working for a lick and a promise. The art for exposure thing is exploitative.
Nah no one owes you shit. You bend to the market, not the other way around.
@@CornerBoothGames 💥💣
I think he meant entitlement as "I made a thing, I should be paid for it". Which makes sense IF You happen to be a salaried profession.
As I've been learning in my entreprenuerial class, there are more or less, three kinds of income/jobs.
1. Salaried. You get paid by the hour, and can expect regular, interval paychecks which are more or less the same each interval. Also known as "Paid for your time."
2. Contract. You get paid a predetermined amount of money as negotiated for each amount of "work" you do per contract. Contracts are not regular, nor interval, and as such pay can flucuate heavily with high flows of income followed by long periods of low-or-no income. Also known as "Paid per the Job."
3. Sales. You get paid a set amount of money per item you sell. This kind of Job often requires at least one form of investment (money, time, effort) without compensation to create/generate a consumer base to sell to. The Sales job is the most risky, as there is an investment, with no guarantee that you will have a steady flow of paying customers. Also known as "Paid per Sale."
You (and me) as Artists fall in between "Paid per contract" and "Paid per Sale."
We get contacted for "commissions" (contractual work), and We create work to sell, (prints, stickers, adoptables, etc).
The entitlement comes about like this.
1. I'm a good artist, and I have my commissions up. Why don't I have more commissions than X artist? I'm better than them! I deserve to live off my commissions alone, so why aren't people offering me money?
2. I worked really hard on these illustrations, paid for printing and everything, and I deserve to be paid for them! Why aren't people buying them?
In both aspects an artist is expecting to be paid for work that nobody asked them to do (products/opening commissions), or are expecting to be offered pay for work that hasn't been done yet.
When the Artist begins to hold it against their audience/community for not shelling out money like they want, or becomes resentful of artists who are recieving pay for their work, this is entitlement.
It's also safe to say that it is entitled to believe that people should/would pay for work when you haven't done any for "free". (Posting your own work on a site for people to see is one example, NOT doing free commission work.) You have to create an artificial NEED for your product to create a sizable marketplace for it. Otherwise your art, no matter how good it is, or how hard you worked...is worthless. Good practice, but not worth money because there is no one willing to buy it from you.
Listening again to what he's saying, he makes sure to put an emphasis on "exposure" being what you do for free. A free commission gets you 0.005% exposure. Almost literally nothing. Only that client, and MAYBE his close family and friends will see that work.
HOWEVER look at Sakimichan. Massive artist. And yet a good 80% of their work is exactly that. FREE. How? Why? Because they make it for themselves, and post it online. That "free" art, art with no "owner" besides its creator is the FREE work that gives them exposure. Thousands of people will see that painting. Like it. Share it. Maybe it will get featured in a news article (how I found her work). But Sakimichan earned 0 dollars from it. She made that work, because she wanted to, with no expectation of compensation. Free art. Free exposure.
That's what he, and other buisness men mean by doing things for free. Investing your own time and energy into something for the sole purpose of gathering an audience. A sales men will put hundreds of hours into calling, texting, and knocking on the doors of strangers before they make even one sale. THey don't get paid for those hours. But they have to put in that free work/time to make the sales happen.
Artists unwilling to put in that time/effort but expecting the same compensation and yearly income as artists who do...are entitled.
This is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! I couldn't take notes down fast enough on all this great juicy info! I'm totally going to be following Gary and listening to his buidness advice
GARY VEE! Thank you for this Jazza! I've always wanted to ask him these things! 💙
My whole life is a creative issue :L I'm into everything under the category of art which is great except when it comes to deciding on which areas to focus on.Now that i'm out of college I'm going to get a drawing tablet to help enhance my concept art and a digital camera to develop my photographing skills. Wish me luck. X3
Owling how is it going?
RELATE, except I'm in high school rn lmao
You might like videos or books by Barbara Sher. She explains how people like you with a wide range of interests can use that to their advantage if you approach it with the right mindset. :)
This is the first time I've seen gary vee not cursing
This is the very first time I got introduced to Gary. Although I am fairly new to this world of art, I really find this very interesting and inspiring not just from that perspective, but also in general, that whatever you want to do, you can achieve it by working hard and realize that it takes A LOT of time. - That is what I got from this. Thanks for doing this, Gary and Jazza!
Few years ago when i saw this i liked it, but now since im actually in this field it touched me heart
Should have put Gary enjoying his Thumbnail as the Thumbnail..😂😣
I can easily be like Gary Vee. I just need to bite my nails. :P
omg. that drove me crazy. dude, you can afford therapy. Or pepper flavored clear nail polish. Or a mirror.
I was reading through the comments, and partly hoping to see someone mention this xD One minute into the Skype call with Gary and I couldn't take it, omg.
But I shall get through it lol
Jess Fischer just develop the art as you go
My nails taste better 😂
haha!! Just shows the raw energy the man has. But he has learned the art of channeling it for gain vs. unmet dreams! So cool
I've been following Gary Vee for a while now. So cool that you were able to get his thoughts! Thanks for making this happen.
Love @garyvee so informative thanks jazza for this. Walked away with some nuggets
As soon as he started biting his nails I'm like - I'm not watching this....
You can still listen to the video
How to pick breakfast out of your teeth when someone else is speaking.
Great value here. Thanks for posting!
Thanks again Jazza. That is so useful. 💹
A G R E S S I V E P R A C T I C A L I T Y
Damn. 3 years later. Musically now tik tok actually turned out to be exactly what he said.
Love Gary Vee! Thank you once again for the great video. I've listened to him and Pat Flynn for a few months now and its helped me get into the right mind state. However, its like he said. Success won't just happen; it takes work. Thanks Jazza! Looking forward to the next.
This is awesome! Thank you so much for this video! Gary Vee is a superstar and it's amazing to hear him say what he says best with special focus on art :)
how do I know how much to sell a painting for? I always get stuck on that, like I don't want to scare a potential buyer away, but at the same time I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. help?
I know a lot of artists price per square inch. maybe $1 per square inch, give or take based on your experience. it's good to not price too high and having to lower your price. once you start selling you can increase your price based on demand.
Look at the type of work you are doing...medium, skill level(be objective here!) size...print vs original vs limited edition, genre....look at people who do work similar to yours who are selling online, at galleries, at fairs, doing freelance work and see the range they are priced at. Don't go much below that range or people will wonder what's wrong with you and you won't get paid. Too high and you price yourself out of the market. Also, whenever you set your price stick by it and be confident with it (I.e. Don't arbitrarily drop your prices).
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it
if you do price per inch or even foot, or any sort of formula, never let the client know this. For some reason people are instantly put off by it, probably from bad experiences from buying carpeting at exorbitant prices by the sq. ft.
i realise this is a year old now, but if its something you're still considering...
Time adjusted fixed minimums and maximums on canvas size... treat your paintings like a commission to yourself. Have a set minimum and maximum cost per canvas size adjusted by an hourly rate. Once you reach a stage where you have a name, that kind of approach goes out the window, and the prices start dictating themselves... Until that stage, set a minimum and maximum price on a number of canvas sizes anything 6"x6" and below has an X minimum price, 6x6 to 12x12 has Y minimum price, 12X12 to 2X24 has a Z minimum. Set a maximum amount of time on a particular size, when painting goes over that time to do, you then start adjusting the cost for every hour over...
For example, I have a friend that does a 6X6 canvas every day that takes no more than 90 minutes to do, she sells those at $200. If they take longer, she adds $50 per hour, she never sells them above $500. She has a similar approach to larger pieces, a fixed minimum for size with a maximum cost, adjusted by any additional time they take to do...
I've still not seen a better approach.
If you go by size or time alone, things can get way out of whack, a 6X6 canvas that takes you three days to do... costing the same as a 6X6 that took you the morning? or expecting someone to pay 10 times the cost of another canvas you have at the same size? When you're starting this doesn't work, nor does it work in the commercial world.
For example, if you work on a magic the gathering card... they wont pay you more or less because the card too 1 hr or 2 weeks, or the painting was 6x4 or 60x40... you should treat your own art in a similar way, commissioned or not...
Hope this helps a little... :)
While Patreon is a crowd-funding platform, it wouldn't be wholly correct to compare it to kickstarter. It's a month by month payment, by your benefactors/fans. It's not gonna end after X amount of time like Kickstarter. I would like to know Gary's opinion, after he's read more into it. :D I think you may have already made a video about it, Jazza? Hm, I'll have another look. If not, would love to hear your opinion as well.
Jazza, I love all your videos, you've answered a few of my questions on Twitch, and I think that is your best video in terms of knowledge shared. This interview was great and I learned a lot from it!
THANKS for that interview! You basically asked all of the questions I would have wanted to ask Gary myself! Really awesome!!!
Gary looks like T-bag from Prison Break 😂😂
That video was incredibly helpful ^0^ But I still have one question, which is important because a lot of people do that and also sell it: Fanart. When you draw a Fanart in your/or similar to the original style, can you sell it? Some Artists do for example Pokémon Drawings and sell them, and I'm unsure, of this is against the law ;/
They are infringing on the Intellectual Property of Nintendo, Game Freak, and Creatures. It is up to the holders of the IP how to proceed. Some brands encourage fan art and some will sue you.
And if you are interested in, you can check out the company behind the IP and see if their ToS actually has a sentence or two on this. Some do!
It is against the law to sell, but not make/show. However companies are pretty split on the whole deal. Some love it as it can be great advertising for their content...and Some will hit you with a Cease and Desist order faster than you can say Disney.
Disney, Nintendo, etc are all really really against selling fan art.
World of Warcraft, and one I'm really struggling to remember actually like fan art and help spread it around.
If you don't want to worry about which is which, just don't sell/advertise it openly (like at conventions and such) but you can get away with private commissions and doing it for free exposure.
It stops being “Fan Art” when you sell it. Then it’s theft.
Just because everybody does it doesn’t mean it’s ok.
I'm so thankful for this interview !!
Thank you so so much for doing this. Idk how this showed up in my recommendations... I really don't. Universe works out in crazy ways when you actually love doing something & you're actually passionate about it. The questions you asked is what I always drop in his comment sections or DM garyvee about. I thoroughly enjoyed this. THIS MADE MY DAY & Promise I'll be doing Art till I die. I cannot thank you enough , so lucky to come across this. Literally opened RUclips & this is the first video that showed up! ♥️♥️🎨🎨 I couldn't be more happy! God bless you & may you reach heights of success! Keep CREATING content! 💯🔥
how long did it take you jazza until you became successful and made a career out of you tube?
gary vee drew for about 7 days and made millions of dollars, haha
Well it's about 2 years since you posted this interview and it is still as valuable.
Big thanks for taking the time to make this and share it on your channel!
Also in support of your channel, for my reference and other peoples reference, i added this to my playlist of 'Better artist through knowhow'. ;-) Cheers!
Great speaker, thank you to you both.
You shared a lot of things anyone who has researched enough already knows. We know art is a business.
Can you help give advice on how to find business partners, at what point is an accountant necessary?
What type of licencing does one need if any depending on what they're trying to do? The complicated stuff that is harder to find info on via google. I am stuck because I don't know what steps to take and I have zero help.
I hear you have to have a merchant's licence to even legally set up a booth anywhere.
And that I will need an accountant experienced in art tax laws etc to avoid trouble.
How can someone starting from zero with no help afford an accountant??
mysteriouswolven u never continued ur channel. Did u just give up or went to another platform ?
he WENT ON EATING HIS NAILS -_-
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Super helpful video for artist like myself, thank you so much!
Just discovered your channel. Very timely information. Thanks.
I think you mean turn *YOUR* art into a business. Sorry, I just graduated from grammar Nazi-high.
Have anybody seen the movie "limitless". This guy has the same drug i promice.
Great video - finally Gary talking specifically about artists!!! Thank you so much for sharing this... ;)
Gary is too much!!! So inspirational