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@@phantomstrangler They need to be subtle. For instance, have a cooler left on top of a discarded smoking red hot thong, then as the camera pans across the room you see the silhouette of a lady going down on the cooler. All classy like.
In my experience, Noctua's Redux fans have a particularly hummy sound profile, especially when they have something (like case rails) obstructing them from the front. I hope that once you get your fan testing system up and running, you can also do frequency analysis for fan noise so that specificities like that reach people for whom that might matter.
Hopefully we can add it some day. That gets into territory where it'd require acoustic gear, so would be separate expense and training from the fan tester.
same banana with Arctic P12 fans humming in certain RPMs and certain case mixes. Fortunately I don't get the arctic p12 humming in my SG05 case in push-pull 120mm AIO
@@GamersNexus frequency analysis could be easily done with e.g. A Python script that you just have to feed an audio record. Of course you need a high quality recording device
Every fan hums at particular intersections of rpm and obstruction. If it's bothersome, modify its curve so that it spends less time at that point, or if possible, switch places between fans and see if it improves.
Maybe an idea to improve the cooler charts with AIOs and air coolers in them (such as at 9:45). It would be nice to see immediately which is which, so maybe you guys could color code them? For me that would improve readability, since it's easy for me to miss the [liquid] tag
Noctua actually has committed to lifetime free brackets for many years, and they don't just send you brackets for new CPUs. If you bought a platform-specific cooler (such as the NH-L9i/NH-L9a) and swapped to another platform, you can also request a free bracket set. I bought the NH-L9i which is for 115x a few years ago and upgraded to AM4 this year, they sent me a set of brackets for free. It took a few weeks but can't complain over free stuff ;)
Looking at the price from PCCG shop in Australia, this sells for $125, while the Hyper 212 sells for about $65. So if this Noctua performs similarly, then it is a fail.
For whoever is thinking about getting this cooler, and is having a mid-rangy cpu, I highly recommend it. My system is with i5 8400 with stock cooler, and just installed the Noctua - entered a game, and my temps dropped from a constant 80C+ to 55-59. I love it, and it has a great reasonable price.
An original H212 so the team can suffer the mounting process! For real though, anyone who hasn't installed with the awful old cooler mounting hasn't lived the PC builder life
@@dasauto7346 Is the Hyper 212 Black (RGB) the same as the Hyper 212 you mention? Because I have the former, and installation was fine IMO - I had more problems with the AMD Wraith Spire 🤣
@@MrLOLametro i think CM has definitely revised it from the nightmare it was in 2011-times. Basically needed a third hand with all the nuts and your manly extra hand doesn't count due to its lack of fingers :/
Love seeing cooler reviews. Hope the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo v2 will be reviewed too as it’s in this price range and is also one of the ‘redux’/refreshed cooler models
I want to see both the original and v2 tested. The v2 claims to give 10% lower temperatures so we'll get to see Steve rant on how percentage temperatures don't work that way.
Shit, I had a 212 cooling my OC'd FX-8350 years ago and it ran much cooler than these newer CPU benchmarks at half the wattage. I don't know what is going on with newer CPU temps.
I think the additional cost of pretty much all Noctua coolers over other brands is justified by their want/goal for a more sustainable PC industry - even when that is reflected by something as simple as sending out new mounting hardware to customers. A very good attitude and vision you don't see from most PC hardware companies. Also, great review as always fellas :)
One of the great things I appreciate with Noctua is that they still provide me the bracket. I'm still using the discontinued NH D14. Still rocking an i7-4770k. But I was thinking of upgrading my CPU now to a 7800x3D, and I just emailed Noctua about the bracket, and they sent it.
Dudes I bought this the other day. Im running Ryzen 5600X with standard cooler. While playing Warhammer 40K. the temps reached 90-93C. Had feeling it was way to hot. This went on for months. Then PC shut down while playing. Yep, it over heated. Well, I got this cooler $50 on Amazon. The results!! ......effen amazing. PC idles around 37-39C. Now while gaming highest reached was 59-61C ..... crazy....cray... This fan is real deal.
The installation guide was such a good idea and I hope that more of your reviews will include them. As an aside, I think a good idea for case reviews would be to show what the optimal fan setup is for them to get the best airflow. Sometimes this isn't clear from the manufacturers themselves.
I have now my U12P for more than 10 years, it have seen many build, from big ATX case to now ITX NR200... it followed me from 2 intel builds to my current AM4 1700 ryzen... with every new mount free.... Just a big respect for Noctua... Their products worth every penies.
I've got a U14S and noctua was great about sending the mounting hardware, I needed a 775 heatsink for working on some old PC and they sent it no questions asked.
Echoing Noctua's approach. Got an NH-C14 ages ago. When Ryzen came out, I emailed them a proof of purchase and they sent the AM4 bracket for free immediately. I have cycled through 1600, 2600, 3600 and now on a 5600X. The NH-C14 is still trucking along nicely. As a direct consequence to how happy I am with the performance and their service overall, when asked to build for friends, I have exclusively selected Noctua for those who wanted to upgrade from the box cooler. All of them are happy with the choice.
I sure hope that the hyper 212 is one of the incoming reviews, cause that is an incredibly appealing part because of its cost Edit: Y'all who end up seein this comment please take a minute to report the bot replies, I know it probably doesn't do shit but I can hope
The Hyper 212 isn't nearly as appealing as it use to be. Several years ago, I got one for $15 after rebate from Newegg and another for $19.99 on sale at Newegg. Now its a big deal if they are $29.99 after rebate and most Hyper 212 versions sell for $35-$45. The Hyper 212X sells normally for $70.
Hyper 212 is overpriced for it performance compared to deepcool etc stuff, they haven’t update the cooler itself and the mounting is abysmal, almost all other cooler now has better mount and fan compare to it. It is kinda scummy to sell a almost 10 year old cooler without any update. Not to mention in Asia markets cooler master already using the newer model.
@@Mildly_Amused You can still see them for 20 after rebate occasionally. I got a 212X like 4 years ago for 20 after rebate. They don't quite get the same sales as they used to, but if you look and are patient, you can definitely get one for around the 20 mark from what I've seen of newegg sales.
I bought a Noctua U9F back in 2008 on the lga 775 socket. I upgraded to the lga 1156 socket and got a mounting kit for the fan. Recently, I upgraded to an AM4 platform, still got another mounting kit. The real funky bit is that I am still on the same NF9 fan. It still works and it is 15 years old.
One legit cooler that I haven't seen much reviews on is the DEEPCOOL Gammaxx 400S really good cpu cooler keeps my 5600X at around 50 at full load for $25
Got a NH-D15 before there was a specific AM4 version. Got a mounting kit within 2 weeks after providing proof that I owned it. Used it on my 1700x and now on my 3950x, still very happy I got it.
there is no way Be quest should not get on the list eventually, they have those fairly popular dark rock and other less premium cooler categories. I think the "Dark Rock" series is the highest end for them.
I do wonder how this compares to the Hyper 212. When AM4 came out cooler master did actually provide free mounting hardware to hyper 212 owners, although when I upgraded to ryzen there was no free stock so I ended up having to buy the new mounting hardware for £10 from somewhere. Still better than buying a whole new cooler for sure.
Noctua has been offering free mounting hardware for new platforms for some time now. I've had an NH-L12 which I bought back in AM3 days, and they sent me free AM4 mounting kit in 2019 when I upgraded to Ryzen - I just emailed them screenshots of my orders for the cooler and the new motherboard.
I've been cooling my 2700X with dual Noctua NF-P12 1700s on a Vetroo V5 heatsink for years and I haven't seen over 75 since. NF-P12 and Arctic P12s are simply the quietest performance budget fans in my experience. Glad to see a review of these lower budget coolers!
I stuck with a Hyper 212 for my 5600X and it has worked well. Glad to see cheaper coolers like that getting added to the list to put this all into perspective.
@@105rogue On my 5600X 3060 TI build I use Clock Tuner for Ryzen 2.1 to dynamically adjust and minimize voltage needed to maintain equivalent stock performance. CTR automatically uses Cinebench R20 runs to determine the performance level. It's a genius piece of software I highly recommend it. My 5600X only got a CTR silver rating since it was an early run from 2020. I have 2 CPU fans and 6 case fans on a full mesh front case (all 120mm, NR600 case). During long gaming sessions the hot spot temp never goes over 73C with my central air conditioner set to 23.9C (75F). My room does heat up when gaming for hours, so that's part of the 73C hot spot temp. I live in Florida the room doesn't have great airflow out. It's winter now and outside temp is 84F. Those temps are for a clean heatsink, gotta keep on top of the dust. The dust sticks easy to isopropyl dipped q-tips when I clean it. I don't even need to remove the heatsink or unplug the fans thanks to adequate cable length.
I'm still using an NH-U14S from 2014 as, like you said, it's not like it's going to really deteriorate and it still makes sense for my workload; I only added a 2nd fan at some point and it just keeps chugging along. The fact that I can just email Noctua and they'll send me a bracket for my 7 year old cooler is absolutely insane and definitely makes me want to support the company as long as they have competitive products.
Been running a Noctua NH-U14S for many years, and needed a kit when I changed CPUs. They sent one right out, free of charge. Mounting is the easiest of any cooler I've ever used, and the fans last forever. I'll never consider any other brand.
I still use a Noctua NH-C12P from 2009!!! Bought it for my Phenom II, used it on a 1700x and now on a 3700x. Only switched the fan to a NF-A15. No other PC part had such a lifespan. If i have to buy another air cooler again for some reason, it will be Noctua again
i recently bought a cheap evo, i had to modify the backplate so it works because this thing only supports am3, works just fine, but as you mention, the fan might need a replacement, when it spins fast, it makes a annoying noise, but fortunately how is setup, only under prime95 can be heard so definitively, reuse old good heatsinks is a good idea
I know most people ignore everything besides pure performance, but over the years, I've come to appreciate build-quality, quality of the company's support-services and ease-of-use quite a lot. This may not be the best in class, but I've had very good experiences with Noctua's support and I find their mounting-system *SO* fricking much better than everything else I've had the displeasure of dealing with in the past. I guess one could call these "intangibles" and I am of the opinion that too few people pay any attention to them when making purchasing decisions.
Thanks a lot for the data, really useful. In future 65W loads, would you be able to add the wraith stealth as well ? Maybe some intel stock coolers as well ? Great content
seeing these benches now after going through an old PC I haven't use 5+ years ago that had the OG U12S and seeing noctua is providing free bracket support just made my day.
I like this cooler. Well made and high quality workmanship? You could improve the cooling a bit by adding an additional fan for a push pull configuration? Great review and info as always Steve. Thanks
While adding a fan in push-pull configuration sounds reasonable (or at least could be studied) there is a caveat - IIRC Redux version lacks extra fan clips to mount a second fan. At that stage consumer is better off buying normal NH-U12S or better. Unless they have access to a metal workshop.
Every other single tower cooler I've had from Noctua has only small gains from adding a second fan (so they don't recommend it) but there is a small improvement. Noctua fans come with spare clips that you can use to attach it.
@@arch1107 I think he said it still works great, If you had no other choice you might slowly be able to get it as close as possible to straight without damaging it. But the point is still that buying a new cooler and receiving it bent looks bad on the company.
I'm running the 212 right this moment. It's an awesome piece of hardware. I'm very satisfied, if this is better I don't know what more you could want in the budget segment.
The vetroo v5(other Chinese clones are coming). BTW, this isn't "budget", it's just less costly that the U12S. Hard to justify 60+ USD for a 65W TDP processor, even if you do get Noctua support, a better mounting system, and a pretty bulletproof fan.
It's about 10 bucks, or 20% more expensive in the US it seems. But I think if compatibility isn't a concern, it looks like great value given the very low noise levels and the still lower temps, yeah.
@@Spentalei sadly only in those regions. It's like, over 100 bucks here in Canada :( Then again I barely ever air cool so it's not really important for me. But would be nice to recommend for friends, etc
I have one cooling a 5900x. Changed the fans to normal thickness cryorig performance fans since I don't need all 4 ram slots and they match my other components and shes ripping. I'd recommend getting the balanced fans though, the performance ones are a little too loud for the extra .5 degree difference
The Fuma 2 is more expensive (albeit, not by much). And, is also significantly larger, which may cause clearance issues. Plus, you may need to pay extra to change out the fans if you want to really get the most out of that massive heatsink. So, you're not wrong, but...
A Noctua fan here :-) I my current rig the CPU cooler is one I bought from Noctua back when a Core i7 870 was the thing, so call me impressed when almost a decade later they shipped me a AM4 mounting kit for free. Also the two fans on the cooler are the original Noctua fans, they run like when they were new.
@@VanillaWahlberg actually, you can use it with single fan inside. Also, full-size front fan can be mounted with tall RAM modules - just a bit higher.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq yes you can use a full size front fan however you either don't cover the entire heatsink by moving the fan up or lose access to the first slot of memory. Both aren't ideal.
@@VanillaWahlberg Plenty of reviewers have tested the Fuma 2 with other fans, including 2x A12x25s, and mostly found that the included fans work better. It seems the R&D department at Scythe did their homework on that cooler.
I was a fairly early adopter of Noctua case fans and coolers, back around 2007-2008. They're quality is superb and have always done a great job cooling my systems. I have a box with older Noctua case fans that still work greats. Plus I have a couple of older coolers that are discontinued but are still quite usable. The last several I've bought have moved into new systems when I upgraded (currently is an NH-U12S which I bought gently used on eBay and saved at last $20). I like how they provide new mounting hardware if requested, or you can buy new mounting hardware off Amazon or Newegg for about $7.99 for either Intel or AMD CPUs. The mounting hardware has always been a selling point to me. One of the most straightforward, simple installations of any cooler I've used, you have to wonder why other vendors continue to make mounting an ordeal (I have noticed a few now using a similar mount). For me, Noctua coolers and fans worth paying extra!
@@Morpheus-pt3wq If Arctic wins it'll probably say more about the quality of the packaged fans than of the cooler itself. Stock fans on cheap coolers tend to be junk. I immediately slapped two Arctic P12's on my Vetroo V5 for the perfect budget combination and got the results I needed for my system.
Would love to see Arctic freezer 34 eSports duo in the charts as well, as it is one of the better ones for less money than this noctua redux Verizon, surprised I can't find the review of it from Steve, it's kinda popular in my region...
This cooler plus the Mugen 5 rev B should be on the list. My problems with both is the Arctic has fans that can spin up to 2100 and the Mugen has 1 fan that spins up to 1200 but former has 4 heat pipes vs 6 in the latter. In my unique use case I bought the Mugen and slapped on 2 Noctua NF-F12 fans at 1500 I had laying around and it's great on my non OC'd 3600.
I am actually curious on how all AMD stock coolers perform across their lineup, R3 to 9. You guys have something that covers it already or would you be willing to pick that up? This because there are several coolers out there that seem to be similair to the R3 and R5 coolers and would cover all if not most of those.
@@spykezspykez7001 the stock cooler is fine for 65w only in cold climates, in my case I live in a quite hot area and I had to buy a cheap aftermarket cooler A Cooler Master Hyper H412R because with the stock Wraith Stealth it was reaching 80 degrees while playing and I was concerned about it because I have a Ryzen 5 5600x and I want this processor to run in my system for the next 6 years at least.
@@victorhugofranciscon7899 You don't need to care about CPU temps if the voltage is stock, it will handle just fine for more than a decade even thermal throttling (if also stock value); what you need to worry most is the whole motherboard VRM quality and temps for a long life span.
Just had my first ever experience with Noctua Support as a single fan clip was missing from my NH D15 chromax accessories box. After putting in a support ticket letting them know the item was a gift and I didn't have the receipt I had a reply within 24hours telling me that wasn't an issue they just needed a picture of the product along with model number and my shipping information. Once they had that info my item was shipped however Canada post lost it so when I contacted them to let them know of the situation they apologized for how long its taking for me to get my item and instantly sent out another set with express shipping. Sorry for the long message but I was just so impressed with how I was treated, the speed in which things were done and on top of that the legit quality of their products I had to share my story.
@@DuBstep115 i can´t imagine first builders doing that. Besides, accidents can happen and in need of re-seating the cooler you already need more thermal paste. Btw. which pastes are so much better, that diminishing returns for their cost don´t apply?
@@DuBstep115 they don't bundle cheap paste, the NT-H1 they give you is more than good enough, and they give you a small tube, not one of those throwaway plastic bag things.
How do you set up the cooler to do the pressure mapping? Are you using a pressure sensitive film system with a "master die" with a known flatness and then digitizing it? What is the scale of the charts? It is interesting that you surmise that this is a mounting hardware issue and not a platen flatness issue? Could you alter the pressure pattern if you put more torque on the light side, or different shims underneath the mounting kit?
@@bigal2688 I did go back and watch that video. They did discuss mounting pressure a little and discussed mounting and un-mounting the cooler several times to troubleshoot inconsistent data. They did not review how they made the digital heat mapped charts to measure the force on the IHS.
Btw: Noctua raised prices on their normal and chromax u12s when the redux was released to make it look like a batter deal. At least that’s what it seemed to be given the time frame.
Their costs have undoubtedly gone up like all manufacturers. Makes sense to time the increase that way. They might lose a mainline sale, but sell a Redux instead.
@@seitenryu6844 yeah makes sense but the timing makes it seem like they raised it to intentionally make the redux look like a better deal. The fact that as far as I’m aware they haven’t done this for other SKUs or even made an announcement about it makes it seem like bad intentions too.
I have this exact cooler in a Lian Li 011 Air Mini, without a GPU and I have an Intel i9 13900k running at Intel specified P1, P2 limits of 125 watts and 253 watts respectively. I'm getting miraculous cooling out of this incredible noctua redux. I am at 27° idle and running all core workloads (running Adobe Lightroom. Exporting 1000 photos using all cores ) at 78° c and get this... only 55% fan speed (which makes this barely audible)!!! What I think everybody should understand is when the I9 13900k is run at Intel specified limits, it can be cooled easily on air. Hope this is helpful when making a buying decision given your own personal circumstances and software and computer use. I just love this little thing. It's so efficient and quiet.
I've never had any other Air Cooler than Noctua, so my experience *is* limited. But as a consumer for me personally the soundness of mind that I can use my NH-D15 for as long as I can is definitely valuable! I ended up giving my old rig away to family (for free) so I got the Chromax black version instead, but it's a good selling point.
I have a Noctua NH-U9S w/second fan cooling a 5900x in a 4u Rosewill RSV-4000server case. It does okay. 73c at all core 4.5ghz. Impressive for it's small size.
Fuma 2 still looks better imo. And about that "upgrade path", we Indonesian know for a fact that Noctua or the official distributors won't send additional kits here because God knows how much cost to send few grams item to Indonesia.
This whole upgrade path seems a bad move from Noctua. All it took was to ship the cooler with mounting hardware for secondary fan and have the customer decide, if he needs the other stuff like LN adapter, Y cable, etc. What if i wanted to use 2 fans from another manufacturer, or just 2 other Noctua fans? Nope, still have to buy their "upgrade kit", that contains another fan. Way to create more waste, even tho claiming opposite.
I'm still using every Noctua fan and cooler I've ever bought. While I've thrown away a lot of other brands because they no longer work. So it's significantly cheaper in the long run.
@@unitedfools3493 They're quality. But so are many other brands. My BeQuiet, Arctic and Corsair fans have all lasted so far. What brands did you have issues with?
Going with Noctua's excellent support history is worth the price premium for their products. They sent me updated brackets for old products instead me having to buy a new cooler. I also got a fan replaced after it started making bearing noise and it was an updated, quieter version of a previous fan with rubber absorption pads. And, of course, the mounting system is just really easy to utilize and work with. Noctua is great.
for funzies while waiting for my NH-D15 Chromax i put liquid metal on the Wraith cooler my 3800x came with. Got the sucker up to 4.7GHz all cores at the ear busting max ~2900rpm max, it was mostly stable under normal use and gaming while staying under well under 70c. But settled at 4.5GHz as a rock solid clock. After a few days i got the Noctua cooler and now under full load you don't notice the ramp up to ~800rpm (from 200)
One of the best Reddit comment I read about Noctua: I found some used ones for $20-40 when I was looking for a spare cooler. The only part that breaks on them is the seal of freshness on the box.
this seems good choice for just in case if something goes wrong or temporarily replacement, if aio goes out, till u get replacement. ill be on the lookout for that one! thanks for the review, great stuff, something new to learn every day with GN!
I go with Noctua over and over because of fit and finish. They look good and perform well longer than the cheaper products. The fact that they gave me a mounting kit for AM4 was a benefit of the kind that will bring me back again.
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@@RelytX I have the autographed mouse pad back when Tech Odin was signing them with Tech Jesus
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Finally, the much anticipated OnlyFans benchmarks
Atleast here the fans are benched and not banned :-)
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@@phantomstrangler They need to be subtle. For instance, have a cooler left on top of a discarded smoking red hot thong, then as the camera pans across the room you see the silhouette of a lady going down on the cooler.
All classy like.
Who's hot and who's not?
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In my experience, Noctua's Redux fans have a particularly hummy sound profile, especially when they have something (like case rails) obstructing them from the front. I hope that once you get your fan testing system up and running, you can also do frequency analysis for fan noise so that specificities like that reach people for whom that might matter.
Hopefully we can add it some day. That gets into territory where it'd require acoustic gear, so would be separate expense and training from the fan tester.
oh! so thats whats making that odd sound in my computer
same banana with Arctic P12 fans humming in certain RPMs and certain case mixes.
Fortunately I don't get the arctic p12 humming in my SG05 case in push-pull 120mm AIO
@@GamersNexus frequency analysis could be easily done with e.g. A Python script that you just have to feed an audio record. Of course you need a high quality recording device
Every fan hums at particular intersections of rpm and obstruction. If it's bothersome, modify its curve so that it spends less time at that point, or if possible, switch places between fans and see if it improves.
Been waiting for this one from you guys since it was released! Always great with the cooler reviews, much appreciated
Maybe an idea to improve the cooler charts with AIOs and air coolers in them (such as at 9:45). It would be nice to see immediately which is which, so maybe you guys could color code them?
For me that would improve readability, since it's easy for me to miss the [liquid] tag
Or possibly reverse the [Air/Liquid] and [Fan Configuration] tags so that the former is at the front
Blue text (with white outline on the letters) would be great to easily tell the difference.
Thank you for this review! Performance versus stock is always nice to see, especially when part of AMD's sell is giving you a free cooler.
Absolutely!
Only thing missing, unless I missed it during the changes between the original and Redux, the Redux tower also has 1 less heat pipe.
And the fins are not soldered. Regular U12S has soldered fin stack.
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Steve needs to use his magnificent hair to test the airflow
Either him or Snowflake.
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Noctua actually has committed to lifetime free brackets for many years, and they don't just send you brackets for new CPUs. If you bought a platform-specific cooler (such as the NH-L9i/NH-L9a) and swapped to another platform, you can also request a free bracket set. I bought the NH-L9i which is for 115x a few years ago and upgraded to AM4 this year, they sent me a set of brackets for free. It took a few weeks but can't complain over free stuff ;)
lol dam i bought my am5 brackets lol
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Could we get the old hyper 212 evo on that list, would help me with perspective.
This. My hyper 212 has been a champ across several builds and was the go-to cooler for generations.
Lmao I went 212 Evo to nh-u12s and no other coolers in my 10 years of building PCs
Looking at the price from PCCG shop in Australia, this sells for $125, while the Hyper 212 sells for about $65. So if this Noctua performs similarly, then it is a fail.
Yeah same here, plus it is most likely one of the most popular coolers for years.
@ bruh, shut up for a hot minute.
they replied EIGHT hours ago and are probably asleep in a different time zone.
For whoever is thinking about getting this cooler, and is having a mid-rangy cpu, I highly recommend it. My system is with i5 8400 with stock cooler, and just installed the Noctua - entered a game, and my temps dropped from a constant 80C+ to 55-59. I love it, and it has a great reasonable price.
Looking forward to the promised upcoming review, hope it includes the ancient Hyper 212. It has been my go to for several years.
Would love to see the legendary Cooler Master Hyper 212 added to the 65W test.
An original H212 so the team can suffer the mounting process!
For real though, anyone who hasn't installed with the awful old cooler mounting hasn't lived the PC builder life
I second this...it's what I'm using on my 3600x.
@@dasauto7346 Is the Hyper 212 Black (RGB) the same as the Hyper 212 you mention? Because I have the former, and installation was fine IMO - I had more problems with the AMD Wraith Spire 🤣
@@MrLOLametro i think CM has definitely revised it from the nightmare it was in 2011-times. Basically needed a third hand with all the nuts and your manly extra hand doesn't count due to its lack of fingers :/
@@dasauto7346 I see! I bought it this year and am very happy with it
Love seeing cooler reviews. Hope the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo v2 will be reviewed too as it’s in this price range and is also one of the ‘redux’/refreshed cooler models
I want to see both the original and v2 tested. The v2 claims to give 10% lower temperatures so we'll get to see Steve rant on how percentage temperatures don't work that way.
The new mounting hardware alone is worth giving it another look. That old X mount is cursed.
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Absolutely love my noctua cooler and I’ll be using them again for any other builds in the future.
I would love to see the coolermaster hyper 212 on the 65w test charts for comparison
I'm happy with my RGB version, but if I knew then what I know now I would have got the VeeTroo that was on Jays channel.
Shit, I had a 212 cooling my OC'd FX-8350 years ago and it ran much cooler than these newer CPU benchmarks at half the wattage. I don't know what is going on with newer CPU temps.
I think the additional cost of pretty much all Noctua coolers over other brands is justified by their want/goal for a more sustainable PC industry - even when that is reflected by something as simple as sending out new mounting hardware to customers. A very good attitude and vision you don't see from most PC hardware companies.
Also, great review as always fellas :)
It always complete my day whenever I watch GN's critical reviews on pc components.
Great work Steve, Celestial Wizard.
One of the great things I appreciate with Noctua is that they still provide me the bracket. I'm still using the discontinued NH D14. Still rocking an i7-4770k. But I was thinking of upgrading my CPU now to a 7800x3D, and I just emailed Noctua about the bracket, and they sent it.
Noctua fans not in brown and beige still freak me the hell out, man.
I know, right?! It's like AMD coming out with a blue Radeon, why would you muddle your branding like that?
@@TheWarmotor to make it more appealing to a larger audience.
@@GamingWimpGW360 Fair enough!
Dudes I bought this the other day. Im running Ryzen 5600X with standard cooler. While playing Warhammer 40K. the temps reached 90-93C. Had feeling it was way to hot. This went on for months. Then PC shut down while playing. Yep, it over heated.
Well, I got this cooler $50 on Amazon. The results!! ......effen amazing. PC idles around 37-39C. Now while gaming highest reached was 59-61C ..... crazy....cray... This fan is real deal.
The installation guide was such a good idea and I hope that more of your reviews will include them. As an aside, I think a good idea for case reviews would be to show what the optimal fan setup is for them to get the best airflow. Sometimes this isn't clear from the manufacturers themselves.
I have now my U12P for more than 10 years, it have seen many build, from big ATX case to now ITX NR200... it followed me from 2 intel builds to my current AM4 1700 ryzen... with every new mount free....
Just a big respect for Noctua... Their products worth every penies.
I've got a U14S and noctua was great about sending the mounting hardware, I needed a 775 heatsink for working on some old PC and they sent it no questions asked.
Echoing Noctua's approach. Got an NH-C14 ages ago. When Ryzen came out, I emailed them a proof of purchase and they sent the AM4 bracket for free immediately. I have cycled through 1600, 2600, 3600 and now on a 5600X. The NH-C14 is still trucking along nicely. As a direct consequence to how happy I am with the performance and their service overall, when asked to build for friends, I have exclusively selected Noctua for those who wanted to upgrade from the box cooler. All of them are happy with the choice.
I sure hope that the hyper 212 is one of the incoming reviews, cause that is an incredibly appealing part because of its cost
Edit: Y'all who end up seein this comment please take a minute to report the bot replies, I know it probably doesn't do shit but I can hope
The Hyper 212 isn't nearly as appealing as it use to be. Several years ago, I got one for $15 after rebate from Newegg and another for $19.99 on sale at Newegg. Now its a big deal if they are $29.99 after rebate and most Hyper 212 versions sell for $35-$45. The Hyper 212X sells normally for $70.
Fuck me, the bots have gone insane.
Hyper 212 is overpriced for it performance compared to deepcool etc stuff, they haven’t update the cooler itself and the mounting is abysmal, almost all other cooler now has better mount and fan compare to it. It is kinda scummy to sell a almost 10 year old cooler without any update. Not to mention in Asia markets cooler master already using the newer model.
@@Mildly_Amused You can still see them for 20 after rebate occasionally. I got a 212X like 4 years ago for 20 after rebate. They don't quite get the same sales as they used to, but if you look and are patient, you can definitely get one for around the 20 mark from what I've seen of newegg sales.
I bought a Noctua U9F back in 2008 on the lga 775 socket. I upgraded to the lga 1156 socket and got a mounting kit for the fan. Recently, I upgraded to an AM4 platform, still got another mounting kit. The real funky bit is that I am still on the same NF9 fan. It still works and it is 15 years old.
One legit cooler that I haven't seen much reviews on is the DEEPCOOL Gammaxx 400S really good cpu cooler keeps my 5600X at around 50 at full load for $25
at first i skipped those kind of review now i appreciate it, thanks to all the gn team.
Please do the Arctic 34 eSports Duo if you can! They're a great cooler imo, and I would love to see your take on it
+1
Got a NH-D15 before there was a specific AM4 version. Got a mounting kit within 2 weeks after providing proof that I owned it. Used it on my 1700x and now on my 3950x, still very happy I got it.
Would love to see BeQuiet on the List. (But i understand you cant test every Tower)
there is no way Be quest should not get on the list eventually, they have those fairly popular dark rock and other less premium cooler categories. I think the "Dark Rock" series is the highest end for them.
Been using the Noctua NH-U12S for the last 10yrs and hopefully it'll stay cooling a system of mine for the next 10yrs
I do wonder how this compares to the Hyper 212. When AM4 came out cooler master did actually provide free mounting hardware to hyper 212 owners, although when I upgraded to ryzen there was no free stock so I ended up having to buy the new mounting hardware for £10 from somewhere. Still better than buying a whole new cooler for sure.
I’m such a nerd that even though I’m not in the market for a cooling solution like this in any way, I still watched this whole 20 minutes.
Noctua has been offering free mounting hardware for new platforms for some time now. I've had an NH-L12 which I bought back in AM3 days, and they sent me free AM4 mounting kit in 2019 when I upgraded to Ryzen - I just emailed them screenshots of my orders for the cooler and the new motherboard.
so that unit will work for your am5 build in the future because it seems amd will reuse the same holes for that socket, so i was a good investment
I've been cooling my 2700X with dual Noctua NF-P12 1700s on a Vetroo V5 heatsink for years and I haven't seen over 75 since. NF-P12 and Arctic P12s are simply the quietest performance budget fans in my experience. Glad to see a review of these lower budget coolers!
I stuck with a Hyper 212 for my 5600X and it has worked well. Glad to see cheaper coolers like that getting added to the list to put this all into perspective.
How well does that cooler work with overclocking?
@@105rogue On my 5600X 3060 TI build I use Clock Tuner for Ryzen 2.1 to dynamically adjust and minimize voltage needed to maintain equivalent stock performance. CTR automatically uses Cinebench R20 runs to determine the performance level. It's a genius piece of software I highly recommend it. My 5600X only got a CTR silver rating since it was an early run from 2020.
I have 2 CPU fans and 6 case fans on a full mesh front case (all 120mm, NR600 case). During long gaming sessions the hot spot temp never goes over 73C with my central air conditioner set to 23.9C (75F). My room does heat up when gaming for hours, so that's part of the 73C hot spot temp. I live in Florida the room doesn't have great airflow out. It's winter now and outside temp is 84F.
Those temps are for a clean heatsink, gotta keep on top of the dust. The dust sticks easy to isopropyl dipped q-tips when I clean it. I don't even need to remove the heatsink or unplug the fans thanks to adequate cable length.
@@Mr.Morden Thank you sir!
I'm still using an NH-U14S from 2014 as, like you said, it's not like it's going to really deteriorate and it still makes sense for my workload; I only added a 2nd fan at some point and it just keeps chugging along.
The fact that I can just email Noctua and they'll send me a bracket for my 7 year old cooler is absolutely insane and definitely makes me want to support the company as long as they have competitive products.
Been running a Noctua NH-U14S for many years, and needed a kit when I changed CPUs. They sent one right out, free of charge. Mounting is the easiest of any cooler I've ever used, and the fans last forever. I'll never consider any other brand.
I still use a Noctua NH-C12P from 2009!!! Bought it for my Phenom II, used it on a 1700x and now on a 3700x. Only switched the fan to a NF-A15. No other PC part had such a lifespan. If i have to buy another air cooler again for some reason, it will be Noctua again
I would love to see a review on the NH-U12A since it supposedly performs as well as the nhd 15, even though it only uses 120mm fans
Yes i own one and it comes down to the NF-A12 fans.. they are simply phenomenal (silent)!
U12A Is similar to d15 until 100-120 Watts. After that d15 outperforms the U12A.
I'm still using my 10 year old Cooler Master Hyper 212+ on my Intel system, only changed the fan to Arctic P12. Still works great
i recently bought a cheap evo, i had to modify the backplate so it works because this thing only supports am3, works just fine, but as you mention, the fan might need a replacement, when it spins fast, it makes a annoying noise, but fortunately how is setup, only under prime95 can be heard
so definitively, reuse old good heatsinks is a good idea
Noctua support is amazing just don't expect fast shipping times.
Well, they are located in Austria, so there will be shipping delays due to the still annoying "human malware" presence.
I got my fan mounting clips from Noctua the next day after I sent them an email about it. ( I live in Finland)
I know most people ignore everything besides pure performance, but over the years, I've come to appreciate build-quality, quality of the company's support-services and ease-of-use quite a lot. This may not be the best in class, but I've had very good experiences with Noctua's support and I find their mounting-system *SO* fricking much better than everything else I've had the displeasure of dealing with in the past. I guess one could call these "intangibles" and I am of the opinion that too few people pay any attention to them when making purchasing decisions.
Thanks a lot for the data, really useful.
In future 65W loads, would you be able to add the wraith stealth as well ?
Maybe some intel stock coolers as well ?
Great content
seeing these benches now after going through an old PC I haven't use 5+ years ago that had the OG U12S and seeing noctua is providing free bracket support just made my day.
I like this cooler. Well made and high quality workmanship? You could improve the cooling a bit by adding an additional fan for a push pull configuration? Great review and info as always Steve. Thanks
While adding a fan in push-pull configuration sounds reasonable (or at least could be studied) there is a caveat - IIRC Redux version lacks extra fan clips to mount a second fan. At that stage consumer is better off buying normal NH-U12S or better. Unless they have access to a metal workshop.
Thanks Steve. Back to you Steve.
Every other single tower cooler I've had from Noctua has only small gains from adding a second fan (so they don't recommend it) but there is a small improvement.
Noctua fans come with spare clips that you can use to attach it.
would be awesome when you guy's have time to test 2x fan setups on the NH-U12S/Redux and add to your data sets. ty much for the upload
*Noctua cooler comes bent*
Steve: finally something negative about Noctua
would it be too hard to bent back into position? perhaps impossible without damaging the fins?
@@arch1107 I think he said it still works great, If you had no other choice you might slowly be able to get it as close as possible to straight without damaging it. But the point is still that buying a new cooler and receiving it bent looks bad on the company.
@@thomaslautenberger6447 the problem is not if it works great, the problem is if you get this unit, mount it and your glass panel let your ocd go nuts
I'm running the 212 right this moment. It's an awesome piece of hardware. I'm very satisfied, if this is better I don't know what more you could want in the budget segment.
The vetroo v5(other Chinese clones are coming). BTW, this isn't "budget", it's just less costly that the U12S. Hard to justify 60+ USD for a 65W TDP processor, even if you do get Noctua support, a better mounting system, and a pretty bulletproof fan.
All of your testing seems to inadvertently show that the Scythe Fuma 2 is an excellent bang for the buck.
It's about 10 bucks, or 20% more expensive in the US it seems. But I think if compatibility isn't a concern, it looks like great value given the very low noise levels and the still lower temps, yeah.
@@Spentalei sadly only in those regions. It's like, over 100 bucks here in Canada :(
Then again I barely ever air cool so it's not really important for me. But would be nice to recommend for friends, etc
I have one cooling a 5900x. Changed the fans to normal thickness cryorig performance fans since I don't need all 4 ram slots and they match my other components and shes ripping. I'd recommend getting the balanced fans though, the performance ones are a little too loud for the extra .5 degree difference
@@tarfeef_4268 Yep. My DH15S chromax was significantly cheaper then a Fuma 2.
The Fuma 2 is more expensive (albeit, not by much). And, is also significantly larger, which may cause clearance issues. Plus, you may need to pay extra to change out the fans if you want to really get the most out of that massive heatsink. So, you're not wrong, but...
A Noctua fan here :-)
I my current rig the CPU cooler is one I bought from Noctua back when a Core i7 870 was the thing, so call me impressed when almost a decade later they shipped me a AM4 mounting kit for free. Also the two fans on the cooler are the original Noctua fans, they run like when they were new.
Interesting. How fast do you spin? 😉
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I try to maintain aprox. 1 revolution per year around the sun.
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While on the high-end the FUMA 2 is limited by its' included fans I find it was an absolute steal @60$. It's literally whisper quiet in my NZXT H700.
It is a shame they didn´t make some newer revision with better fans. Mugen 5 needs some total revamping as well.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq What holds it back is the 15mm fan on the front, mostly. It's designed to sit behind even tall RAM kits.
@@VanillaWahlberg actually, you can use it with single fan inside. Also, full-size front fan can be mounted with tall RAM modules - just a bit higher.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq yes you can use a full size front fan however you either don't cover the entire heatsink by moving the fan up or lose access to the first slot of memory. Both aren't ideal.
@@VanillaWahlberg Plenty of reviewers have tested the Fuma 2 with other fans, including 2x A12x25s, and mostly found that the included fans work better. It seems the R&D department at Scythe did their homework on that cooler.
Perfect timing! Still in lockdown in Australia and have an itch to install something but needed the justification!
Well, hyper 212 evo still exists for 30 bucks
We'll work our way over to that one!
@@GamersNexus alright 👍🏻
It's not $30 anymore. Newegg is selling it for $39 while Amazon is selling it for $45 :(
The 212 just won’t die it’s great
Unfortunately that one still uses a cheap sleeve-bearing fan which doesn't stack up well compared to more modern ones.
I was a fairly early adopter of Noctua case fans and coolers, back around 2007-2008. They're quality is superb and have always done a great job cooling my systems. I have a box with older Noctua case fans that still work greats. Plus I have a couple of older coolers that are discontinued but are still quite usable. The last several I've bought have moved into new systems when I upgraded (currently is an NH-U12S which I bought gently used on eBay and saved at last $20). I like how they provide new mounting hardware if requested, or you can buy new mounting hardware off Amazon or Newegg for about $7.99 for either Intel or AMD CPUs. The mounting hardware has always been a selling point to me. One of the most straightforward, simple installations of any cooler I've used, you have to wonder why other vendors continue to make mounting an ordeal (I have noticed a few now using a similar mount). For me, Noctua coolers and fans worth paying extra!
would love to see air coolers from Arctic, Cooler Master, Thermalright and cheaper brands from $10 up to $50 price.
Arctic will probably win in this segment. It´s only downside is the mounting mechanism.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq If Arctic wins it'll probably say more about the quality of the packaged fans than of the cooler itself. Stock fans on cheap coolers tend to be junk.
I immediately slapped two Arctic P12's on my Vetroo V5 for the perfect budget combination and got the results I needed for my system.
Cool, was thinking of buying this for my PC last week because I was up into the high 80’s while gaming in cpu heavy games.
Would love to see Arctic freezer 34 eSports duo in the charts as well, as it is one of the better ones for less money than this noctua redux Verizon, surprised I can't find the review of it from Steve, it's kinda popular in my region...
This cooler plus the Mugen 5 rev B should be on the list. My problems with both is the Arctic has fans that can spin up to 2100 and the Mugen has 1 fan that spins up to 1200 but former has 4 heat pipes vs 6 in the latter. In my unique use case I bought the Mugen and slapped on 2 Noctua NF-F12 fans at 1500 I had laying around and it's great on my non OC'd 3600.
Ever since I first tried that mounting system, it's been Noctua for me all the way.
I am actually curious on how all AMD stock coolers perform across their lineup, R3 to 9. You guys have something that covers it already or would you be willing to pick that up?
This because there are several coolers out there that seem to be similair to the R3 and R5 coolers and would cover all if not most of those.
It seems like the stock cooler may be fine for 65W, really.
What is the benefit of paying 50 bucks more? I can’t see it.
@@spykezspykez7001 the stock cooler is fine for 65w only in cold climates, in my case I live in a quite hot area and I had to buy a cheap aftermarket cooler A Cooler Master Hyper H412R because with the stock Wraith Stealth it was reaching 80 degrees while playing and I was concerned about it because I have a Ryzen 5 5600x and I want this processor to run in my system for the next 6 years at least.
@@victorhugofranciscon7899 You don't need to care about CPU temps if the voltage is stock, it will handle just fine for more than a decade even thermal throttling (if also stock value); what you need to worry most is the whole motherboard VRM quality and temps for a long life span.
@@mateusmt6194 Yes but if 35$/€ aftermarket cooler drops temps over 5c and 8db quieter at the same time i think its worth it.
Just had my first ever experience with Noctua Support as a single fan clip was missing from my NH D15 chromax accessories box. After putting in a support ticket letting them know the item was a gift and I didn't have the receipt I had a reply within 24hours telling me that wasn't an issue they just needed a picture of the product along with model number and my shipping information. Once they had that info my item was shipped however Canada post lost it so when I contacted them to let them know of the situation they apologized for how long its taking for me to get my item and instantly sent out another set with express shipping. Sorry for the long message but I was just so impressed with how I was treated, the speed in which things were done and on top of that the legit quality of their products I had to share my story.
Yeah, their customer care is something, all other companies should learn.
Big brain move by Noctua making their own lower-priced competitor.
Noctua seems to be only good guy in pc parts market.
2020-2021 has been good years with black fans and now this
yeah the secondary fan upgrade kit is even greater brain move - and not adding thermal paste tube is the finishing move.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I would guess 50-70% of those thermal pastes end up in trash bin because everyone already has it or they buy better paste.
@@DuBstep115 i can´t imagine first builders doing that. Besides, accidents can happen and in need of re-seating the cooler you already need more thermal paste. Btw. which pastes are so much better, that diminishing returns for their cost don´t apply?
@@DuBstep115 they don't bundle cheap paste, the NT-H1 they give you is more than good enough, and they give you a small tube, not one of those throwaway plastic bag things.
Loving this content Steve! Great testing, and very helping to the budget gaming crowd!
How do you set up the cooler to do the pressure mapping? Are you using a pressure sensitive film system with a "master die" with a known flatness and then digitizing it? What is the scale of the charts? It is interesting that you surmise that this is a mounting hardware issue and not a platen flatness issue? Could you alter the pressure pattern if you put more torque on the light side, or different shims underneath the mounting kit?
@@bigal2688 I did go back and watch that video. They did discuss mounting pressure a little and discussed mounting and un-mounting the cooler several times to troubleshoot inconsistent data. They did not review how they made the digital heat mapped charts to measure the force on the IHS.
I'm so excited to see you guys get back into cooler testing. Keep up the great work!
I’m a professional web designer and developer and I gotta say that cat website was top notch haha Snowflake our fearless leader killed me
Very nice to see this review since I’m in the market to replace the freebie wraith cooler for my 3700x!
Wraith cooler was so loud. Im using a nhd15s. Something noctua/bequiet.
Btw: Noctua raised prices on their normal and chromax u12s when the redux was released to make it look like a batter deal. At least that’s what it seemed to be given the time frame.
Not really though, they raised prices as they usually do
They also added different fans to the normal coolers.
Their costs have undoubtedly gone up like all manufacturers. Makes sense to time the increase that way. They might lose a mainline sale, but sell a Redux instead.
@@seitenryu6844 yeah makes sense but the timing makes it seem like they raised it to intentionally make the redux look like a better deal. The fact that as far as I’m aware they haven’t done this for other SKUs or even made an announcement about it makes it seem like bad intentions too.
@@Markus-zb5zd wdym different fans? It’s always been the F12 which comes with U12S & U12S Chromax
@@adsrbad9733 oh yeah was talking about the U12A with the gigaprice
I have this exact cooler in a Lian Li 011 Air Mini, without a GPU and I have an Intel i9 13900k running at Intel specified P1, P2 limits of 125 watts and 253 watts respectively. I'm getting miraculous cooling out of this incredible noctua redux. I am at 27° idle and running all core workloads (running Adobe Lightroom. Exporting 1000 photos using all cores ) at 78° c and get this... only 55% fan speed (which makes this barely audible)!!! What I think everybody should understand is when the I9 13900k is run at Intel specified limits, it can be cooled easily on air. Hope this is helpful when making a buying decision given your own personal circumstances and software and computer use. I just love this little thing. It's so efficient and quiet.
I wish to request the Deep Cool Gammaxx GT or 400 be tested and added to this data base. I especially would like you opinion on its' mounting system.
Yep, that is a goto good cheap cooler.
Pretty sure the 400 v2 has already been tested, could be wrong.
@@wobblysauce Depend on price IME with the 400. At normal price it's got a lot of competition but when it's half price it's amazing value.
Love to see the good old reliable Be Quite screwdriver there even thought no cooler was in the tests!
Is there anything in the pipeline that'll gave schlieren imaging? Maybe that new PS5... Anyways, good stuff as always
Great info & work! Very much appreciated the IHS shadows over the pressure map graphic 👍
Lol, imagine something like a NH-D15 but sized for noctuas NF-A20 fans xD
I've never had any other Air Cooler than Noctua, so my experience *is* limited. But as a consumer for me personally the soundness of mind that I can use my NH-D15 for as long as I can is definitely valuable! I ended up giving my old rig away to family (for free) so I got the Chromax black version instead, but it's a good selling point.
Is the wraith spire the full-aluminium or the copper-slug variant?
i believe the one they tested is aluminum only, only the old ones have copper in them
Of course this review comes out just days after I installed the Redux in my system to replace a stock Wraith RGB!
Would be cool to see how the Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo performs against this1.
I have a Noctua NH-U9S w/second fan cooling a 5900x in a 4u Rosewill RSV-4000server case. It does okay. 73c at all core 4.5ghz. Impressive for it's small size.
Fuma 2 still looks better imo.
And about that "upgrade path", we Indonesian know for a fact that Noctua or the official distributors won't send additional kits here because God knows how much cost to send few grams item to Indonesia.
This whole upgrade path seems a bad move from Noctua. All it took was to ship the cooler with mounting hardware for secondary fan and have the customer decide, if he needs the other stuff like LN adapter, Y cable, etc. What if i wanted to use 2 fans from another manufacturer, or just 2 other Noctua fans? Nope, still have to buy their "upgrade kit", that contains another fan. Way to create more waste, even tho claiming opposite.
A valid point.
happy this video is up since I recently bought this
The takeaway here is that you can't just say "noctua good" and leave it at that.
The redux is a cheap version and not part of their performance parts.
@@Markus-zb5zd but it is 50$
@@maplewaffle7886 yeah you still get the whole mounting system and all and free mounting kits for future sockets.
@@Markus-zb5zd You get support for your cooler by paying for 2.5 coolers.
@@nunyabeeswax3012 as Steve said in the end, you get one of the easiest mounting system, a really good compatibility list and many other things.
I just purchased this for a asus b550a / 5600x combo. Thanks for doing this review guys.
Overpriced. There are better looking and performing coolers at this price.
This is maybe a $30 cooler being sold for $50 because it says noctua
It´s Noctua, the fans will praise it to heaven and buy it uncritically.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq Oh, a hi to the edgelord corner ;) No clue but at least you're vocal about it
@@peterpain6625 good try to turn me on. Sorry, it didn´t work. Try again.
I'm still using every Noctua fan and cooler I've ever bought.
While I've thrown away a lot of other brands because they no longer work. So it's significantly cheaper in the long run.
@@unitedfools3493 They're quality. But so are many other brands.
My BeQuiet, Arctic and Corsair fans have all lasted so far.
What brands did you have issues with?
I love Noctua's default colors. Reminds of Cinnabons. :)
"We like the Stock (cooler)!"
If GN was a redditor
Going with Noctua's excellent support history is worth the price premium for their products. They sent me updated brackets for old products instead me having to buy a new cooler. I also got a fan replaced after it started making bearing noise and it was an updated, quieter version of a previous fan with rubber absorption pads. And, of course, the mounting system is just really easy to utilize and work with.
Noctua is great.
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Noctua D14 user here I use it already 10 years free mount upgrade to Am4 from Noctua :) Currently cooling Ryzen 5 3600
Yes more air cooler testing love the content never bored here thanks for the information
for funzies while waiting for my NH-D15 Chromax i put liquid metal on the Wraith cooler my 3800x came with. Got the sucker up to 4.7GHz all cores at the ear busting max ~2900rpm max, it was mostly stable under normal use and gaming while staying under well under 70c. But settled at 4.5GHz as a rock solid clock. After a few days i got the Noctua cooler and now under full load you don't notice the ramp up to ~800rpm (from 200)
One of the best Reddit comment I read about Noctua:
I found some used ones for $20-40 when I was looking for a spare cooler. The only part that breaks on them is the seal of freshness on the box.
this seems good choice for just in case if something goes wrong or temporarily replacement, if aio goes out, till u get replacement. ill be on the lookout for that one! thanks for the review, great stuff, something new to learn every day with GN!
I go with Noctua over and over because of fit and finish. They look good and perform well longer than the cheaper products. The fact that they gave me a mounting kit for AM4 was a benefit of the kind that will bring me back again.
Can confirm Noctua are true to their word about free upgrade kits, currently using an NH-D14 I bought 10 years ago with my Ryzen 5900X.