IIT Controversial Talk: Reservation, International Students, World Ranking! Ft.

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @ushagupta5374
    @ushagupta5374 Год назад +15

    I tell you are story
    My friend belongs to OBC category and belongs to upper middle class , so my friend's sister got 12 thousand rank in IIT advance .since she was a girl in OBC category and more of that they gave the certificate of being poor . 2 they showed that she is the only child in the family . So by doing this her sister got IIT Delhi chemical branch .
    While general category has no option to get into good IIT (top 7 engineering branch ) and have to go to nit . Is this promote talented students in country .
    One more thing her sister was not that good that why she was left unplaced and after that she got an off campus placement .

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад +3

      Yes u r totally right. It is highly unfair for meritorious students

  • @sahil6493
    @sahil6493 Год назад +16

    everybody talks about reservation but no one talks about caste discrimination

  • @wolfmangoland7972
    @wolfmangoland7972 Год назад +19

    My uncle (general category) grew up in UP and did his 12th grade in Hindi medium. He was among the toppers at IIT Kanpur (Mechanical); did MS and Ph.D. in the US. He worked hard and learned English.

    • @wolfmangoland7972
      @wolfmangoland7972 Год назад

      @@Tim677-n8f You take time to understand. He learned English to succeed not only at IIT but later in life too.

  • @adithsreekanth3804
    @adithsreekanth3804 Год назад +21

    Case based reservation is dumb.... there's no reason for it to exist.one could argue that caste based reservation is one of the only place caste system still exists. The tution fee waiver is nice in my opinion as i don't think faking income certificates is as simple as that. Or maybe it's not an issue where I live

    • @ruberick17
      @ruberick17 Год назад +6

      There should be a provision that anyone should be allowed to chose any caste. Let's see what do will people priotise more caste & their pride or Education

    • @beymilantu
      @beymilantu Год назад +2

      Caste based system still exist because Indian Society want it to exist, reservation came later on....

    • @ruberick17
      @ruberick17 Год назад +2

      @@Tim677-n8f
      Ek pal ke liye Maan bhi lu ki Ho Raha h, Kya uske against law nhi h?
      Kya Karne walo ko Saja nhi mili?
      Unhe Reservation mile to Khushi Khushi de denge , par unke naam pe tum log kis chiz ka arakshan le rhe ho?
      Hassi aati hai sun ke Ki jaat, gujjar, yadavs jaise log bhi reservation lete hai, jo sabse jyada jatiwad krte hai

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад

      ​@@ruberick17 Tum ekdum sahi keh rahe ho

    • @Shantanuw-x9f
      @Shantanuw-x9f 11 месяцев назад

      your dp explains your confusion
      forceful conversions of early Indian Buddhists into a new religion "Hinduism" which is simply a fabricated or false religion.
      and for the "proofsss" you won't find any manuscript, sculpture or statues of Hinduism beyond 9th century. Even if you think you got some "proofsss" beyond 8 or 9th century check it's source if it's authentic or not

  • @nastikx_luffy
    @nastikx_luffy Год назад +16

    If two general are talking about reservation what u think the output will be. Oh I just predicted the answer😂

    • @nastikx_luffy
      @nastikx_luffy Год назад +3

      To tu cse se science nikalke apne g mei daal le☺

    • @yashkumaruchenia7298
      @yashkumaruchenia7298 9 месяцев назад +4

      Right bro these casteist never talk about ongoing casteism 😢

  • @sajisaji6085
    @sajisaji6085 Год назад +5

    500th rank general category== 5000 th rank reserved category what pathetic condition for brilliant students in india and imbalance in education due to reservation

  • @DK-xb8ru
    @DK-xb8ru Год назад +6

    60 to 70 percent of students don't have to pay fees as a policy matter besides scholarship and other perks

  • @sumedhar386
    @sumedhar386 Год назад +11

    You are absolutely right harnoor🥺

  • @mz7644
    @mz7644 Год назад +88

    Bcoze of reservation bright general students are the leaving the nation

    • @architjain6334
      @architjain6334 Год назад +5

      Correct bro, why dont our govt. or iits change this ??

    • @mz7644
      @mz7644 Год назад +20

      @@architjain6334 bro there population is more nd government is looking for votes of majority one to be in government

    • @architjain6334
      @architjain6334 Год назад +4

      @@mz7644 completely agreed

    • @architjain6334
      @architjain6334 Год назад

      @@mz7644 government just want those backward classes to get happy and let them win majority

    • @SumitGupta-ys7lb
      @SumitGupta-ys7lb Год назад +2

      They will cont. to do so too. We need quality institutes in quantities that can consume the population.

  • @theaizen
    @theaizen Год назад +15

    Harkirat is way more mature than harnoor
    Harnoor needs to improve his thinking

    • @namangupta3160
      @namangupta3160 Год назад

      Bscchai ko tarah behave karta hai yai.

    • @ah7905
      @ah7905 Год назад

      Exactly 💯🤭🤣🤣🤙

    • @Hellow1913
      @Hellow1913 2 месяца назад

      Harnoor bhul jaata hai ki har kisi ke pass uske jaise paise nahi hotey bahar jaake padhne ke.

  • @vidya2964
    @vidya2964 Год назад +6

    Bahut se reserved catagary ke student ke dono parents gov job main hai aur unko bilkul fee nahi deni padti aur Wah khoob paise udata hai bechara gen catagary usko poori fee deni padti hai wo bahut mushkil se apna kharcha chalate hai 🤔

  • @pvnrt2803
    @pvnrt2803 Год назад +5

    Jee advanced 2022 I scored around 7,000 rank(with 1 year of coaching), and my (harijan) friend(with 3 years of coaching ) who didn't even have any CRL rank (which means he doesn't even qualify by general category, and there is also a huge difference between mine and his Jee advanced marks), is studying with me in the same branch and at the same institute.
    He is even richer than me, and his father is a civil servant.
    Sometimes I try to test him by asking him some jee physics formula that even a board's student can answer; he is so dumb that he can't even answer that, but because of reservations, they are exploiting our education system.
    Whenever I raise my voice against them, they always say, Your ancestors exploited us; why shouldn't we take reservations now?
    I have a line: "Let me slap you now (to my Harijan friend), and whenever my grandson or daughter takes birth, I'll let you slap him or her. Would you agree on this?"

    • @raneeshver3685
      @raneeshver3685 8 месяцев назад +1

      You are just speaking about a narrow experience there is a large spectrum of inequality within our society, I'm the first degree holder in my family, I prepared for NEET and I cleared my category cutoff but due to some certificate issues I can't able to come under my category in our state merit list instead they included my name in general category. But I never felt bad I'm just stayed optimistic that someone poor got my seat instead of me so it gave me no anger. In my locality I'm the 1st person to go for a coaching centre and prepare for NEET by spending almost 1 lack I'm an SC Category student at my dad used to buy gold loan for my coaching. People are poor when you see people with low marks get seat it's not their fault cuz it's your fault that you can't able to compete with your own category students and secure a seat, people bashing about reservation are dumb with no proper knowledge about any problems faced by other people.

    • @pvnrt2803
      @pvnrt2803 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@raneeshver3685Did you read my comment properly before claiming my kind of people just cry and can't even clear their own category cutoff.
      Tell me one thing, a student with 250 jee advanced rank(not selected in IISc.) and a student with 12K rank selected, who can do better research.

    • @sujeetjha5000
      @sujeetjha5000 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@pvnrt2803 aaare bhai tu in dallo ko kuch nai samjha sakta. Bas ham general wale hi samaj sakte hai

    • @supremeff9483
      @supremeff9483 4 месяца назад

      Btw in which branch you are pursuing your degree ?

    • @AkashKumar-hg1is
      @AkashKumar-hg1is 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@pvnrt2803any of them who will find research more interesting, in his field of interest.

  • @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln
    @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln Год назад +5

    Nowadays even student from wealthy background are competing on reserved posts because of their category status.
    Can anyone explain why the son of any group A government officer should compete on reserved posts just because of his category.?

    • @beymilantu
      @beymilantu Год назад +4

      you are thinking in your own circle while government of India thinks all of us as one giant group, reservation wasn't meant for rich or poor it was about equal representation which was not given to the minorities (before 1980's)

    • @iam.mystic
      @iam.mystic Год назад +2

      In ST category, there are around 2k seats but only 1500 get filled.
      Im sure there'll be only 2-3 students around you with such privileges, the rest doesn't have any prior coachings, most don't even think of giving that exam as it's overhyped by being titled the toughest.
      In my opinion, if you have reservation, use it. Better to use it than give someone who scored even lower than you get a seat in it.

  • @soutriksaha7118
    @soutriksaha7118 Год назад +13

    Where General category students have to score within AIR 500 to get IIT Bombay, electrical engineering....a SC student has to score only 10,000 ....but the engineering curriculum in IIT is designed according to those top AIR students...so it is obviously tremendous difficult for a reservation student to cover up the curriculum.... Sometimes they crack only 3-5 LPA jobs or take off campus jobs after being rejected on campusing....

    • @nastikx_luffy
      @nastikx_luffy Год назад +5

      Coaching chod ke iit ke liye preparation kr fir gyan de😂

    • @soutriksaha7118
      @soutriksaha7118 Год назад

      @@nastikx_luffy BSDK....JEE Mains first session me mera 99.3 percentile aaya hai.....tu padhai kar
      le..

    • @gameralpha8331
      @gameralpha8331 Год назад +3

      Pagal hai kya Bhai ?

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад

      ​@@soutriksaha7118 u r right brother 🙏

    • @stincherslinch518
      @stincherslinch518 Год назад +1

      ​@@nastikx_luffysahi bola

  • @mr.anderson5077
    @mr.anderson5077 Год назад +4

    Make education free for all irrespective of caste and religion, end of story
    Why do we pay taxes to freaking govt, to buy ammunitions, statues, etc

  • @nicolastesla1894
    @nicolastesla1894 Год назад +2

    damn! It seems like Harnoor is so full of spite for category students! The only reason he is in the US is becasue he is wealthy enough to afford the US undergrad fee! Isn't that unfair to the poor Indian students who cannot ask their daddy to send them to the US?

  • @krishnendusamanta3805
    @krishnendusamanta3805 Год назад +10

    I know someone, basically two students from my school who were 1yr senior, just because they have that Sc reservation category, they got into NIT DGP just but getting 66 and 80% respectively. Whereas in spite of me getting 84.6% i couldn't get any literally any. I think it's now a shame borning a general male candidate 🥹🥹🥹

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад +2

      It's totally wrong

    • @Doraemon21_
      @Doraemon21_ Год назад +7

      Isme galat kya tha ???? Tumne apni Catagory clear nhi ki .. matlab tumme dikkat hai....usne apne Quota me clear na

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад +2

      @@Doraemon21_ Baat to sahi h

    • @arjunsharma2506
      @arjunsharma2506 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@Doraemon21_general seats pe koi bhi category wala aa sakta hai konsa maal phukte ho ?

    • @Ticoc6855.-_
      @Ticoc6855.-_ 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@arjunsharma2506 Bhai reservation vali seats to fill hoti nhi to koi reserved bacha kyu hi ayega open seat pool mei. Moreover hate the game not the player

  • @chinmayswami9358
    @chinmayswami9358 Год назад +1

    I am not sure about motivation to write papers in India, but I have to disagree with what was said about writing papers when it comes to US.
    Majority faculties in US emphasize (at times in toxic manner) on writing papers more than focusing on quality of research. For example look at the Stanford precedent scandal and Harvard scandal. There are 2 aspects for this.
    On professional level, the performance of faculties in US is judged based on the number of papers they publish in a year and the journal IF plays a role in it to some extent. Additionally, these papers are key outcome indicators for ensuring funding agencies that the their money was well spent.
    On personal level, most US faculties want to publish papers for fame and act smart in conferences and create a buzz about themselves in the community. Its that simple.

  • @vimleshkumarkanaujiya
    @vimleshkumarkanaujiya 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why am I linking this video with caste discrimination, you might wonder? You are all highly educated, so let's first delve into the concept of caste. In Punjab, I've observed different Gurudwaras-one for Mazhabi Sikhs, and another for Khatri/Jatt Sikhs. Personally, I was unaware of things like IIT, KVPY, and Ivy League schools until I reached the 12th grade. It's common for people to avoid discussing caste issues.
    When viewed from a materialistic perspective, there may be jealousy towards someone belonging to the SC/ST category. However, from the standpoint of social justice, it can be perceived positively. While it is not ideal for individuals from the SC/ST community with higher incomes to conceal their status, this has become more prevalent in recent times. Nowadays, it is seen as a pragmatic approach.

  • @rishspeaks7364
    @rishspeaks7364 Год назад +7

    Sometimes I feel Harnoor is trying to justify IIT’s are bad because he was not able to make it at all.

    • @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln
      @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln Год назад +2

      Not true

    • @awesomedude4428
      @awesomedude4428 Год назад +4

      He's just spitting the facts. He's more successful than an average IITian. Living his great life in a good country.

    • @rishspeaks7364
      @rishspeaks7364 Год назад

      @@awesomedude4428 Lol. You are highly mistaken my friend. Harnoor is doing pretty average in his corporate career.
      RUclips. Definitely one of the best.
      PS- US is a fucked up land for people who are immigrants. Cant even have any other source of income.
      Just letting you know the reality my friend.

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад +1

      ​@@rishspeaks7364 yes

  • @mrsharma5264
    @mrsharma5264 Год назад +7

    Finally caste based reservations sucks.।।

  • @indiancitizen8297
    @indiancitizen8297 Год назад +8

    There should be a quota for OCI, PIO, NRI, International students in IITs....

    • @aryanaman7
      @aryanaman7 Год назад +4

      hn bc ek kaam karo monkey and dog quota bhi daal do
      leave 1 seat in each branch for general

    • @arjunsharma2506
      @arjunsharma2506 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​@@aryanaman7ek bhi mat do Kam se Kam koi bolega to nahi paper Dene ko

    • @pyro69
      @pyro69 5 месяцев назад

      NRI Quota is there in IITs. But very few students come to study there, that too mainly from countries like Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, etc.
      Why would international students want to come to IITs anyways? Almost any half decent country has better universities than IIT.

  • @weareindians1
    @weareindians1 Год назад +4

    Harnoor brother hoe to choose university in USA and what is tuition fees of university

  • @pubgkiller159
    @pubgkiller159 2 месяца назад

    I think I have faced such trauma where everyone ignored and waiting for me to fail raising complaints on me fall in love she liked the attention and ignored I was mentally disturbed left iim in anger

  • @srajsu4901
    @srajsu4901 Год назад +1

    Great video Harnoor 👍👍

  • @lelouch__
    @lelouch__ Год назад +6

    But students who belong to other categories are fighting for that particular category reserved seat only, so a category student do not compete in general seats ...

    • @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln
      @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln Год назад +6

      Wake up bro and check the rules before commenting. If a non UR student score more marks then general cutoff he is counted on general seats.
      Pls check the facts

    • @JeeNeetMemes
      @JeeNeetMemes Год назад

      ​@@SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln yes

    • @adarsh8731
      @adarsh8731 Год назад +1

      Bhai kal hi so ke utha hai kya

    • @lelouch__
      @lelouch__ Год назад

      @@SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln it never happens like that, because the student who had scored more than the general cutoff have already gained some relaxation for age, application fee, and the number of attempts, it would be bias to UR category if that student gets a seat under this category.
      Please check your facts before any reply .

    • @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln
      @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln Год назад

      @@lelouch__ u need to see Supreme Court verdicts on this.
      Ya fir baithe baithe khane k aadat h

  • @souvikgorai5543
    @souvikgorai5543 Год назад +7

    If you see faculty position, any other position you can see that all this post are occupied by upper caste people, and their sons, daughter get privilege and they achieve big position, this cycle continues,
    To break this cycle caste based reservation is needed with some modifications

    • @shashvatpandey3028
      @shashvatpandey3028 Год назад

      chal be chomu

    • @souvikgorai5543
      @souvikgorai5543 Год назад +1

      @@shashvatpandey3028 facts are facts, you can confirm the survey yourself

    • @ruberick17
      @ruberick17 Год назад +7

      Is that their fault if they are seasoned from all spheres.
      Why don't you ever ask that why CEOs of Apex firms and Companies like Google, Microsoft , Adobe, Pepsi, Starbucks,are all general Category Indians.
      The faculty position you are talking about is nothing other than nepotism , not every general owns such high posts.
      I can give you endless example of people from Obcs st sc as well

    • @quizzlerprofessor
      @quizzlerprofessor Год назад

      Yes you're correct

    • @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln
      @SHUBHAMSINGH-gh6ln Год назад

      @@souvikgorai5543 because to reach at those positions one need to have some particular years of experience and reserve categories have a lot of age relaxation benefits and thats why they don't even get that amount of experience.
      Their is 50% reservation in UPSC but you don't see any cabinet secretary from non general category because for reaching that position one need to join these early career position at an early stages.
      Facts are facts.

  • @indiancitizen8297
    @indiancitizen8297 Год назад

    Great Video 👍

  • @lovkush5257
    @lovkush5257 Год назад +3

    Harnoor bhai k saath or practical video banao

  • @dancebyasmita5424
    @dancebyasmita5424 Месяц назад +1

    Reservations are the mejor problem

  • @pirooo6544
    @pirooo6544 Год назад

    💕facts

  • @happygirl95
    @happygirl95 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sabse jyada reservation ka fayda obc wale uthate hai

    • @TECHYPLP
      @TECHYPLP 7 месяцев назад

      😂 ews le lo bhai apko bhi mil jayega

  • @tusharsachdeva3654
    @tusharsachdeva3654 9 месяцев назад

    are ye NRIs se caste ke baare me mat baat karo. inhe lund kuchh ni pata. itni mehnat karke bhi sala criminal family se students aake padh rahe hote hai hamare saath aur naukriya utha lete hai corporate me big packages pe.

  • @kevingarfield2094
    @kevingarfield2094 Год назад +1

    English please my dear Harnoor G