Your Hobby Motivation: Build Mode vs. Paint Mode?
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2018
- Is there a special trick to help keep you 'hobby motivated' so you keep producing finished miniatures? There is, and Uncle Atom wants to help you find it.
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I definitely love building more than painting. The kitbashing, the converting, posing and adding little bits and stuff is really fun. Painting is a chore
same. Although I do love the end product of painting.
I do tons and tons of ork conversions (dakkadakka) but getting to paint it is absolute hell... my grey army is getting huge
Itsthe oposite for me, so I have looked to make a partnership with a friend, he gets things built converted, moldlines cleaned an that sheet, and I get things painted, it works like a charm
Love building, not so much painting
I love painting but dislike building.
Regardless of build mode, paint mode or any other mode Uncle Atom's default mode is beast mode!
No, the Pchow mode!
Lol 😂
So, I've watched a lot of your you tube vid's and something I really appreciate about you is you're ability to realise that everybody's different and everyone approaches the hobby from a different angle!
I have a rule : everything that is built goes on my shelf in the living room. That way I pass in front of whatever is not painted every day and makes me feel guilty. Thus I usually build to paint right after and keep mostly painted minis on my shelf.
Well, except those Warp Spiders and Rangers that are still only primed. And this Land Raider. And the Rhino and Predator. And the two Wave Serpents. Oh, and the 20 Dire Avengers that are still waiting... *sigh*
Just my method. I've been building Warhammer and Bolt Action armies all summer and now it is time to start painting. Thank you for this awesome channel, I listen to it while working on minis and scale models. Your voice is top notch.
Recently just got back into the hobby after a 20 year absence and I vowed that I'll never play with gray plastic again. So what helps me is to build a unit and while I'm painting it I'll start building a character or vehicle. I switch back and forth so I don't get bored with anything, other than scraping mold lines. Takes longer this way to produce units, but I'm happy with how it's going.
Good on you for inoculating yourself and others from Grey Ork Disease! I also will absolutely not play in a public setting with unpainted minis (with friends for list test is another thing as it helps us determine what gets priority in the work flow).
I say 'and others' because I have noticed that Grey Ork Disease is contagious. One guy does it, then someone else, then another. Before you know it 80% of the armies present at the public table are bare or only primed.
I find that if the muse is with me then I can bang out figure after figure but if she isn’t, then it can be months before I touch anything again. I’m trying to alter my painting technique to a more ‘speed’ painting style and see if that makes a difference. I also need to stop adding to my plastic mountain, which Kill Team isn’t helping!
Changing your paint style to something more ‘speed’ oriented can help a lot. I’ve doing that myself, and it’s been helping me to get more done. Remember: the price of perfection is prohibitive. Thanks for watching!
I think most of us in the hobby have that problem I know I do. The old "table ready" axiom works well to with speed painting.
Sound advice once again. Thank you for trying your best to give something useful back to the community.
I just came back to the hobby a month ago. Got myself some basic paints and everything, and then started with a unit box, built them and painted them straight away. Then i kept doing the same for this month with every other unit and now i just got myself 500 points fully painted and feeling just like i want to build and paint more!
Another great video 👍🏻. I’m a commission painter and I have to say building kits is the biggest drag for me. It’s not my favourite part of the hobby at all and I tend to just blast something out with my eye on the painting part. But I do find that when I’m motivated to build I plough through as much as I possibly can while I’m in the mood for it.
This is very on point. I frequently switch between painting and building, including terrain building and/or scratch builds. I find varying up my creative activities keeps my motivation going. I try to only paint when I am inspired to do so.
As somebody who loved Legos growing up, the building is just as much fun as painting to me so i try to alternate between the two. There is a lot of fun to be had coming up with your own poses that maybe the box didn't intend or doing some kit bashing for that matter. On a final note, when painting rank and file type troops it motivates me to get stuff done seeing a cooler model close by. That's just me though.
the trick do doing one unit at a time. building and then painting is in being broke. That way you never get lured into buying too much.
Benjamin Zaugg I couldn't agree more!
Hobo mode
Hahaha exactly what I was thinking til I scrolled down and saw your comments! So true. After a box of GW figures I no longer have any money with which to bury my table in unbuilt/unpainted miniatures! One unit at a time
It works too if you aint broke, even if you have the money to boy an antire army in one creditcardsweep, it keeps you from investing in pasive hobbie assets, I have an entire army of drukari in their sprues, sitting in one big box because they where at a huge discount... bad inversion since im not playing aeldary this year, simply dont have the time
Ever since that bad investment, buy-glue-paint is my mode
Hey you forgot Airbrush Priming / Basecoating 'Punish your fingers' mode. Where you airbrush for a few hours until you can't feel anything below the elbow.
Building is something I have to STOP myself from doing....otherwise, you get a whole Death Guard army built over the Spring, and find yourself neglecting that army because you're overwhelmed and painting Shadespire instead. True story of my Summer...
Same thing happened to me with Dark Imperium. I STILL have 10 poxwalkers, 8 plague marines, and a malignant plague caster to finish, and I built the box not long after I bought it...
Totally agree. One thing I do is start simple. Easy build kits have a quick build payoff and I move from doing that to more complicated units and heroes. Then a vehicle then easy build again. Oh and I do that priming thong too. I think it helps with the motivation to get over the painting inertia 😀
I've fallen into this pattern myself - building a large army list first and then painting. I've discovered there is one fringe benefit to building for a long time before painting, if you stop and prime models as they are built: the models have an extended length of time for the primer to truly cure and become very hard by the time you paint. Pays off in the long run with a durable paint job.
I am honestly out of motivation after trying to paint every model I have unpainted. My best option is to alternate between painting, building and playing every weekend.
ranna stampa briu I have the same issue my only working go around is to do something else for a couple of days or to paint units from different game systems.
I don't so much burn out on painting as lack time. I work a lot of hours (16 hour nights are not at all unheard of) and it's physical work, so when I get home I crash hard. No 'painting or building after work' for me (maybe four times in the last three years).
Come the weekend I have a choice: Build and paint all this stuff, or spend time with friends and play games. Often it's the latter.
The weekends where my friends and I can't get together are actually a good thing for the hobby side for me.
just be poor like me, i can never afford to buy figures, someone randomly gave me a box of space wolf cavalry guys (the 3 guys on wolves), that got me into warhammer, so...i watched a million videos and decided ..i like Orks, they ar my favorite, so i bought a start collecting Ork's box, it's got 19 figures in it, i won't be able to buy anymore figures until the beginning of next month, i have the opposite problem as most of you guys, i'm super motivated to build and paint, but i have few guys to build/paint (the deff dread is my fav thing ever omg) another issue i have is the codex and index or whatever, the rules, all that stuff is going to cost me a month with no figures :(
im just starting out and i'm watching videos about painting, and theres a few about how to do it really fast, it wont be epic looking, but its enough to look pretty decent so you can play, i guess you use washes a lot and shades and stuff, i dunno i'm gonna try it tonight on my Ork boyz and see what happens, i totally murdered my painboy, i dunno what the deal is, my paint is bad or something, i thin the pain but it just doesnt go on very well, it's weird, it's not like the videos, lol, i'll prolly buy new paints with the rules books next month
its gonna take a long ass time to build a decent army only buying a few figures a month, lol..maybe i should try looking into resin casting :O
@@seanc8054 an important part of using washes or shades is the prep work. Priming and base coating can do a lot. For my Lamenters (all yellow) I primed them white and used a yellow wash, then a yellow glaze, then did the details. They look nice. Were I to do it all over again, I would use a yellow primer, yellow wash and yellow glaze. Green primer might be something to look into for you if you don't want to base coat.
Good luck with your paints. I PERSONALLY (this is entirely my personal experience and opinion and your mileage may vary) get slightly more expensive paints. For me, I use Citadel; they're what works for *me*. I've tried many other paints from other manufacturers but didn't like the results. I've been told I'm doing it wrong or that there's something wrong with my technique but I don't buy that. Some people can only paint with Craft Paint and some can only paint with GW, or Vallejo, or Badger. Use what is most comfortable for you.
If you really want to speed paint, I've been told an airbrush is another way to go. I've used one quite a bit but find shades and washes and colored primers work better for speed... Again, for *me*.
Hope that helps and happy painting!
I used to do what little building wad necessary for a model or 2 and then paint them & repeat the process with another 2 miniatures. But that was when miniatures were metal and I wasn't trying to build armies for games. But now that almost all miniatures are plastic I build a bunch of miniatures all at once to get into a grove where I'm not fumbling when I try & pick up tiny pieces. And where my hands automatically hold pieces in the right way so that when the glue that I'm using to put 2 pieces together sets, I don't find that my grip has slipped and as a result the pieces have been glued together wrong & for example a head isn't tilted the way I wanted. Or a right arm with a rifle isn't positioned probably so as to allow the left arm/hand to be holding onto the gun barrel in the right place.
I finally have a large space dedicated to hobbling and it helps me to have dedicated building, painting and special project area (converting, terrain something like that) and I love being able to bounce between projects to stay motivated
Having faced the issue when I started the hobby (aged 10) I since sold everything then started again (age 19). Learnt from my mistakes and now I have the rule 'don't buy anything until you've built and painted what you've got. One box at a time' that way, I see the act of doing it as progression and leading to a goal. It allows me to enjoy it more
This is interesting because its similar to a conversation I had with my wife some time ago; she remarked that I seemed to like building more than painting, and I said it was a different frame of mind. I will admit that I find building to be more satisfying initially, because its rare that the building phase doesn't come out exactly like I want it to; sometimes a particular kit or miniature will fight me, but for the most part if I have a picture in my mind of what I want the final, built piece to look like I can get it there. The first phases of painting I find a little bit stressful/frustrating because everything seems messy and things don't seem like they're coalescing into my final image, but as I move on with painting and refining things that's when I start to feel that sense of satisfaction again as I see things starting to really come together.
As a fellow denizen of the Great Lakes region, I can appreciate the uptick of productivity when the "frozen hellscape" is in full swing. Oh, I finally came around to playing AoS. It's...ok. But the hobby aspect is second to none!
Theese motivation videos are one of the best things you do
This was a very helpful video to watch. I used to fail to paint pretty much anything then discovered if I rode the high of new model excitement and got something assembled and painted it made it a lot easier to build and paint the next thing but recently due to a semi new baby I've only been able to hobby while they are sleeping which precludes anything airbrushy since my compressor is so noisy and I was starting to feel annoyed at the painting backlog I had. Despite enjoying my endless assembling (I've cranked out a full alpha legion army, some Knights, and a kill team box in the last few months) I felt that I was wasting that precious painting incentive it's good to be reminded that any hobbying is good hobbying!
Looking forward to discovering what method works best for me when I inevitably get into the hobby! Aside, I always learn something new or see a new perspective to something when watching your videos.
I tend to do a bit of both at the same time. I'll paint during the day when the light is good (which restricts me to weekends during winter), then build in the evening in front of the TV when great light isn't so important. (And yes, I have to vacuum the next day. It's amazing how much plastic you scrape off when cleaning models.) I do have a daylight bulb but you can't beat genuine daylight. But what I find best for maintaining momentum is making sure I do something every day, whether it's just half an hour of painting, or building one model, it keeps me motivated. When it comes to painting, the worst thing I can do is finish a project -- a unit of whatever -- and have nothing in the queue. If that happens, weeks can go by and I won't paint or build anything. But if there is another unit all ready and built and waiting, I'll start painting pretty much immediately, and that keeps me in hobby mode which means I'll open the next box and build that. While I do have a backlog, I don't feel that it's unmanageable at all.
Totally agree, Churning out a load of stuff in one mode can help, though that involves having the funds to buy lots all at once. I'm more of a converter than a painter myself, the painting is just something that has to happen to get it all finished.
I have some Infinity miniatures to use as various themed crews for Rogue Stars, Scrappers, and This Is Not A Test. I focus on one crew, buy, assemble then prime them. Then move on to getting the minis for the next crew. Most of the Borderlands 2 crew, and Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun crews are primed and ready to be painted. Need to work on my XCOM 2, and Satellite Reign crews next.
I am more of a converter as well, though I should focus on one project at a time. I am hoping to get my hands on some Daughters of Khaine Melusai, snake heads, female Dark Eldar and weapon bitz to make some XCOM 2 Vipers. I am planning to convert some Mantic Salamanders from fantasy to Sci-Fi/Post Appocalypse, I have nine minis. I just need the right bitz. Also planning converting some Skaven and Goblins to Sci-Fi/Post Appocalypse. I might try using the Blood Bowl minis.
kiblams most people aren't painters...... thus the sea of grey or primed only army's out there.. *sigh*
kiblams I think building helps me to get excited for upcoming projects too and it's always nice to have painted finished miniatures
@kiblams You don't have to buy it all at once. I bought the shadow war armageddon box and have slowly collected other boxes of terrain (thermic plasma conduits, prometheum pipes, thermic regulators) and now that I pulled the the trigger on the new kill team terrain, I opened all the boxes and will make the terrain. I find collecting the boxes slowly easier on the wallet and then you get the benefit of seeing all the creative configurations for the cool "new" terrain. I always wanted to build a promethium/oil refinery so now I can with all the pieces (and the time to do it).
I completely agree with TM about build mode and paint mode to churn out terrain/models.
I must be an outlier when it comes to hobby endurance and tolerance. When I got back into wargaming in 2015, I set out with a plan and a long-range goal to be up and playing by 2017 or early 2018. I literally spent the first year building and painting ONLY terrain, buildings, and terrain tables. The second into the third year was doing ONLY building - five 100+ model each Warhammer/AOS armies. The third year I primed them all (about 600 miniatures) and then I began painting my first army, the dwarves. Now in 2018 I have the luxury of having four more entire armies all built and primed and ready to paint as time allows. In the mean time my dwarf army of 140 models is playable and usable across a number of different wargaming rules.
It was a hell of a long slog but really pays off in the end when you've got your wargaming room truly up and running and can actually finally enjoy it!
Great editorial and thought provoking. Thanks Atom.
What helps my personal hobby motivation is painting in google hangouts with other painters. The Hobby Hangout over on Facebook is a group designed literally for painting together in hangouts. For me it takes away the monotony of painting and helps give a sense of community while you're painting away.
a while ago, my hobby time was almost zero, then i startet to build all i still had to do, that was helpfull for me, seeing what to do and seeing the progress i made.......
I find the advantage about building in bulk is that I get to see the bigger picture for what I want to do creatively as a whole. Where as with completing smaller assets one at a time provides less flexibility unless you are just copying what has already been done so you don't really need to see or do anything different than what you did in the past. Its up to you.
So....I am sure you have talked about this in one of your videos, but I really try to do more of a goal oriented approach which for me means building and then painting. So for goals what I try to do is break the the assembly into several sub-tasks. Then I try to set a goal about accomplishing that sub-task. So for example a goal could be pinning arms to a model. A subgoal is drilling a hole for the needed arm. etc....The same method I apply for painting a model. I try to identify different regions that need to be painted, and during my painting session try to accomplish that "painting goal."
My mode is : Buy mode, and Cry after seeing the backlog i have mode... *just kidding
I like the idea of ‘paint mode’. I like to work on projects and go through the steps of list design, purchase (let’s be honest it’s a fun part of the hobby), build, and then painting.
Just wrapping up an imperial soup for the NoVA Open this year. Hope to say hello to you there.
I like painting way more than building. My Motivation for keep going is, to getting better at painting and trying new things like : New Lightning or weather effects, wet panel and so on. I really love the feeling to finish an modell after 6 Hours of painting or more, then returning after i learned the new stuff to enchance the "already" finished modells.
I find that my tolerance for mold line cleaning is one of the stumbling blocks. The other is, I am more strongly motivated if I see more concrete progress. Example. I am Working on a Bretonnian homage army (square bases and all) and am doing individual heraldry for each Knight. I tried initially to build a unit of 15 knights before painting, but quickly found motivation lacking. When I started treating each knight like their own progress I was much more motivated. Yes, it was inefficient, but it kept me motivated. Seeing the unit slowly grow with a new fully painted knight each week has allowed me to produce (slowly) a unit that I had completely stalled out on months ago. I did something similar with my Custodes. I bought a box of Custodes. Built them, painted them, then bought another box and repeated. That gave me an army to look, starting with a single unit and growing, and I found that looking at a fully painted unit increased my excitement for building and painting another unit in a way that was apposite to that demotivating feeling I get when looking at a large army of unpainted plastic.
I find I try to split my time between video games and miniatures. Now that I’m old and have a real job I don’t have the same amount of time I use too. I have decided to drop video games because I don’t get the same satisfaction I use to from them. I get more satisfaction from looking at my painted Ironjawz and want to paint more. Sometimes you just have to decide what’s more important, when your time is limited, and just focus on one or two things. Thanks for the video Adam!
Thanks for the thoughts.
Since release of Kill Team iv now had my first back log of models just so many projects, ideas and just not enough time.
Like you, I found that Kill Team gave me a real impetus to build stuff, but it hasn't been just focused on Kill Team. I played a game with my friend using my Death Guard (they're all heavily customised to begin with, so a natural choice), then I began thinking of other teams I could build. I started with an Alpha Legion kill team, which I was building as a comical "we're Ultramarines" theme, with Cultists disguised as Guardsmen and the like. That put me in the mood to make an Inquisition team, before realising Imperial Agents aren't a valid faction. I'd raided my Renegades and Heretics bits collection for those, which got me doing some work on my Slaaneshi Traitor Guard and Beastmen mutant rabble. I wanted to do some Black Templars for Kill Team, but the rules don't really support it, so I just ended up building Black Templars for my small army instead - that's resulted in the size of my army increasing about threefold, possibly fourfold. Somewhere along the line I started making standalone "paragons" of various chapters that I don't collect (Ultramarines, Flesh Tearers, Imperial Fists) and after making a proud son of Dorn I decided to order a box of Mark III Space Marines to start a Horus Heresy Imperial Fists army. I had a lot of fun with building my Kill Team box terrain when it arrived, and then I decided I'd like to build a Raven Guard Kill Team. Since I was rooting around for beakie helmets I ended up cracking open my White Scars project, which naturally led to me working on that as well. Round it out with work on my custom Space Marine chapter and I've been busy for a few weeks.
My problem is that I love building but struggle to stay interested when painting. I can build pretty much endlessly, I enjoy it so much. So much so that some of my friends have asked me to build some of their stuff, especially terrain. I am more than happy to oblige. But when I start painting I get about halfway with a pack of models, before losing motivation and starting a new project. I have four half painted kill teams now and am already itching to start a new one. :P
I've done very little this summer, it's been hot in the UK and I've had other stuff to do. The weather has calmed down now and kill team came out so I'm building like crazy. Autumn and winter is when I get most of my painting done.
100 % gotten almost 5k orks done in less then a year thise way
Kalle Svensson I hope you forgot to add points to that 😱😱
Sound's like ets time for a propa WAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
I love building, so much so that I'll even assemble and magnetize my friends minis just for fun, but painting confounds me. I enjoy painting but I find myself less motivated to paint then to build, which has led the issue that I have literally hundreds of unpainted minis and the thought of the effort of painting all of them just further saps my motivation.
Great video!
I can genuinely relate to this. Lately I've been wanting to paint more, where as before I was steadily building figures on a regular basis. Yeah, I've still got a fair bit to build, but I found I'm getting more painting done because I actually want to do it rather than doing it because I have to. Another thing that has really helped me, was reducing my collection considerably. It wasn't an easy thing to do, but I found removing the majority of projects I simply didnt have time to complete or even the desire to finish really helped my productivity on more important projects. Plus, my bank account felt was much better for it. Life's too short. And I'd much rather have one fully painted army to be proud of than several half painted armies. :)
I’m about to make my first attempt at painting before assembly. Drukhari models that I bought with this in mind. Still working on tricking my brain - mostly involves compartmentalizing.
Great video Adam. Black Templars good choice. I build some 3 to 5 then paint . Can't wait to see paint on them you see mine on Facebook thanks for the the videos and websites. Keep up the great work.
I would also love to see a video on Priming Spray Can vs. Airbrush - Differences, Advantages & Reasons
I have to build and paint sub assembly style because bits get in the way. I have to do it one unit at a time until it's complete because I don't want to have a bunch of guns and arms get lost or mixed up.
I have a mini-drawer that just has tiny ziplock bags of bits sharpied with what they are. So far so good.
I've been putting the bits on toothpick which are stuck into wine corks, then placing coloured marks on the bases of the corks.
I feel the same as you. What holds me back is the feeling, I should do more subassamblies. And then it isn't finished, as long as the model is painted...I guess its complicated :-D
As I am typing this, the base coat on my 18th Cadian Infantryman is done and the glue is drying.
Doing one to 3 models is about the pace I can do without feeling overwhelmed.
Got my Killteam rulebook so I can play the game and am looking forward to taking my Cadian Killteam for a spin.
Great vid, and you didn't even touch topics like 'customizing'.
When I'm in buildmode I could go on for weeks, even months.
I could go so deep into that rabbit hole that switching to paint mode is hard (honestly I don't like paintig as much as building)
This results in different ways I put my 'modes' into practice. While I focus on each model in buildmode, even let one sarge rest while I continue the flametrooper, I paint in productionline mode. Gluing whole squads on a strip of wood with sticky tape and go 'all uniforms', 'all boots', 'all weapons'.
For me i have found that the biggest factor is time. That is because i have found that it is easier to stop mid project / model and come back later that day / week in build mode rather than paint mode. So if i feel like this session will have more hobby time i will paint and if i know it will be a short session i will look into building something. Current Project: Swamp bases for my Goblin Blood Bowl players.
I always prime on sprue... saves a hell of a lot of paint and you can get into all the small spots, and then basecoat with airbrush once built.
Been struggling through some Rubric marines and can’t take anymore so I’m going to get Tzaangors to build and break it up a little bit tomorrow.
I'm the kind of guy that just has to build everything the minute i buy it. That being said, once I started getting tons of kickstarter games I got overloaded with miniatures. Now I try and paint up one board game all at once so that I can play with a full box of complete painted miniatures. At first it's hard to stay motivated, but once over half of them are done you get excited to keep going.
I'm very much build a unit, prime and paint said unit. If I have too much built grey models, I can loose motivation fast as the task then becomes daunting. With things still in a box, I can neatly put them away in the closet so out of sight out of mind and focus on getting the unit of ten or five guys done. Then once they're done, pull out another box, build and paint it. Usually it's a unit size so for instance my Kharadron Overlords Sky Riggers box comes with three models, I'll paint two or three boxes of them at a time as my limit for batch painting is about ten models. Anything over that and it gets a bit tougher for me.
I love building so much - newer the set - better. Its actually relaxing and meditative. Also I love to finish building - no matter its 1 model or set. Its like an achievment and revelation of how those tiny parts become into something beautiful. Its like an a building extasy. I like painting not this much but I like to try new technics (painting rust and diffirent types of skin is my favourite).
I build and the paint in large batches. Mostly for when I paint the army the paints, pattern, and technique are similar to help them look the same. It can be hard to come back around and add a unit and get the paint job to match up. I do tend to build and prime them, so that way when winter comes I don't have to worry with rattle can.
I would love to see your finished products!
I have painting phases and use build phases to break it up. But in the background I have Uncle Atom on RUclips to keep me going. :)
My second army for Warhammer was Orcs and Goblins. I purchased everything all at once, built everything, and then painted about an 8th of it before my spirit was broken by the wall of gray plastic on the shelf. Personally I like to build a box, base, paint, seal THEN on to the next box but that’s just me.
I go back and forth. I tend to build all of the units I have of a particular troop type, paint them, then go back to the next box(es) I have for the next unit. For example, for Star Wars Legion: I build and paint all the Stormtrooper unit boxes I have, then go do the Rebel Troopers unit boxes, then go build and paint the next batch of whatever. Works well for me.
I definitely build 2 - 3 models, then paint them. Then I might built a few models from another project and paint them, only to come full circle to the first project.
Like you say, it's the variety that keeps motivation high.
For me build mode typically comes last, since I paint in full sub assembly. I have prep mode where I file and prep the model for priming and painting, then it goes in a snack bag until I'm ready to paint it, then I prime and paint. Then I build the model and finally I texture and create the base, then mount the model and finally dull cote the whole thing. For me I keep going by setting small goals, a squad here, a group of zombies there, I see them through from start to finish and then change gears to a different game and paint a batch.
uncle atom why is your voice so nice
The ASMR voice.
Huffing rattle cans in the bunker. 👍
Mrphilipjcook 😂 Class!
i know right? he has (at least for me) a therapeutic/calm voice xD
I buy way too much stuff I am tempted to farm some out to a commission painter! Good video.
A video I would love to see is one on, if there is such a thing of course, cross over Games Workshop miniatures. I.E. miniatures that can be played in multiple of the games.
I like to partially build, and THEN paint. That way i can get all parts of my unit easily
I have a build models mode, a build scenery/terrain mode, and a paint mode. Lately, I've found myself in full on "procrastination mode".
I'm trying to get all of my other models built and painted before Orktober when I'll need to focus on building Orks.
I've been in procrastination mode long enough that now I need to go into sub-forms of that mode: cleaning and re-organizing modes. Gah!
Ideally, I would like to cycle through build models mode, paint models mode, build scenery/terrain mode, paint scenery/terrain mode, play nights & learn new game nights sprinkled in when I can.
My strategy protip: One Project at the time mode!
Unbox a pack if dudes i would like to paint for „reasons“, build em, paint em, base em. And only then start a new one.
If you unbox all and build em you just have a pile of unpainted plastic and you never ever finish something. The satisfaction of finished projects is what gets momentum and suddenly it doesnt matter if it takes a month per box.
Plus that way you can limit your spendings too :)
Tge only downside for... ads sort of people, there is no instant gratification like buildmode. You need to go trough once or twice to see the beauty of it and you then get proude for what you did and quality greately improves.
I think restricting your budget for models is a great way to do this, or fix a certain number of models for each month. I've just gotten back into 40k and I'm building models then painting them in batches of 5.
Yes, I'm not buying any new models until I have the current army I'm painting playable. I don't have to paint everything I have, just get it over the 2000pt line. It's great motivation because I'm really excited for my next project, and I can't wait to spend money on new plastic.
Peter Webb this is probably easier to do when you have less disposable income though, I know that when I have money I want to go out and spend it, which is something I'm trying to work on.
There are plenty of ways to spend money on wargaming that aren't building models. I'm free to buy as much basing and terrain building material as I want. Just no actual models until I get another 50 or 60 dudes painted up.
...and paints, brushes, rulebooks, tools, organizational items, green stuff, etc.
I tried the whole build-it-first thing for a 2k T'au army. It was a real struggle to paint it as there was just so many minis (it was 4 x 10man ST, plus 1 10man BT, 1 10man PT, and then a load of ST and CT suits). It was so daunting to paint it all! Now I get a couple squads and a couple of vehicles at a time, paint them up, then get a couple more, etc. Works for me. And yeah... who the heck paints on the sprue?!?!?!
Buying the models and using the unopened boxes as the hobby table while playing with quarters as the units
I'm definitely in build mode at the moment. Built a load of AdMech, then on to some Kharadron Overlords. I've no drive to paint at the moment so this us keeping things ticking over. Plus, gives me something different to switch to when I'm painting. I get sick of painting Skitarii so having the dwarves to switch to is a good change
With Warhammer 40K being a hobby that i want to keep as a hobby, i feel that it i need to enjoy it, so i work on what i feel like doing... Sometimes that's a lot of building, other times it's adding a basecoat or painting some details. It does mean however that i have quite a few half finished projects. Another thing that helps me keep progress is 12-hour challenges, 12 hours with the main goal of bringing a project from sprue to fully painted, perfect to just set my mind on something for a day and then be done with it and on to the next project. Especially because something (almost) gets finished it helps keep motivation up since i'm making progress.
I have become a four leaf clover, but that is only because I at one point had a couple of thousand points of Necron built and primed but unpainted and forcing myself to paint all of that was a kick in the nuts. Now I buy, build, paint, base, buy.
I'm the 4 leaf clover i guess, but only to specifically avoid the backlog. Faced with an army of unpainted models I would say it seems like a mountain to most and the sheer thought of the time needed to finish it probably reduces motivation. Look at it this way, your professor could assign you a 5000 word report due in 5 weeks on x or five 1000 word reports over 5 weeks, most would take the latter but the people who would rush the job would take the former in a heartbeat. Focusing on one unit at a time or at most 2-3 from a box set means you give them a better amount of attention in my opinion. If you manage your time well and commit then you will have better results assuming you have an even distribution of free time in your life. Breaking any task in life down into smaller pieces is almost always the better option unless you're super human
Variety is the spice of life brother!
I like to build quite a few models, paint a few, and send a few more off to a commission painter to get done, that way I try to roughly keep my buy/build/paint ratio pretty even.
Luckily, I never suffer from "Build Mode". I paint models in separate pieces 99% of the time. It's a tad difficult to field the "Gray Legion" of unpainted minis when they are still on the sprue or in pieces on my paint station. hehe
yeah, sub assemblies are great, mainly because it forces my to actually paint the whole mini before i can play with it XD
I've been in the most epic of all epic Build modes. I mean like almost a decade.
You asked why people paint things on the sprue: For me, it's just easier to paint my figures on the sprue, because I paint 20mm and 15mm. It's just easier to hold a sprue in your hands dan a single figure. Also, I don't base them, but use them for dioramas. Then it's really usefull to paint them on the sprue.
I'm the type of guy to go from build mode on Thousand Sons, to paint mode on Maggotkin, to build mode on Maggotkin, to paint mode on Malifaux, and several, several other side projects in between, each with their own build and paint modes.
It's almost like flipping switches on a power grid.
I alternate build and paint and try to complete a squad at a time... Personally I find to many built but unpainted models about as daunting as the pile of unopened boxes in the basement. The worst thing is to build an army then play them first time and loose badly before you finish painting them - really makes you loose the motivation to get them done.
Ive also put several things together, mostly because I want to see how they end up in that stance and ofcourse so they can be used in a casual game. When you do this and want to paint later on, do you take them apart again? Alot of models have their weapons infront of their chest which makes priming/painting harder.
I don’t take them apart, no. I either just don’t worry much about the chest area behind the gun (if I can’t see it I don’t paint it) or I leave the model unassembled and then can’t play with it in a game. Thanks for watching!
Thanks, and thanks for creating! :)
I find that the way I do it is I find some reason I want to paint, say getting stuff ready for an upcoming battle or getting a really cool miniature done, and I can paint a lot during that time, but as soon as it's done it can be months before I do anything at all again. Building seems to be a separate thing entirely from that. I can build pretty much as much as I want at any time without changing the painting motivation. I'm currently in the non-painting slump, although I might be getting excited enough about my old Tyranid army that's sitting in a box to paint it. I don't think that'll help with the last few Terradons or the 2 units of Dwarfs, though.
started to use a lot of drybrushing and glazing for speed paintin on regular units. Which gives a lot of motivation because of quick results.
Here and there I give me more time to paint a general or a special model with more love and details if I want to.
If you dont want to go to painting competition there is no sense in painting one single model for 46 hrs imo. :)
I have found it is best to have a build area and separate paint area. Allows you to bounce back and forth more.
I totally do the whole build mode/paint mode thing. I didnt think of it that way but it is totally what I do.
I built my entire Deathwatch army every night after work for a week straight, and then got to the painting portion.. realized a good chunk of my paints were either low, empty, or messed up.. so had to spend a whack to replace.. and by the time I got it all, I totally lost steam, and now have a beautifully assembled, but too lazy to paint army, since work has once again got busy.. now to find the time and effort to get at it.
I think it would be a bit silly and waste a good bit of time to build 1 model, prime it, and then paint it unless it's like a showpiece or something. For my rank and file guys, I build a sprue of 10, and then depending on the weather prime them as well. Painting takes so much longer than anything else for me, so too much building and priming just gives me a huge paint backlog and stresses me out. I would much rather paint stuff until I start running a little low, and then build and prime ~10 dudes (which can be done in a couple of hours), and go back to painting. My spreadsheet says that I have 17 primed right now, so I'm good for awhile :)
Also, you didn't mention it because you base before you paint, but I usually paint 5 or 10 models, and then just base them all at once. Then back to painting of course.
Peter Webb I've found the games workshop basing paints to be really good, you put some on, give it a wash, a drybrush, and that's that
this is about what i do. build 10 to 20 guys and prime them and paint them and then base them all with the GW texture paints and then start again and maybe throw a bigger model in between ie a tank or terrain or something of the sort to break up the monotony of the rank and file. Though for some reason when painting my BA i dont really get burnt out nor my Orks but everything else yeah kinda can happen not sure why theres a difference maybe the love of my armies i guess
I try to do similar but I tend to work in Units. Right now I am doing Tyranids and I am going with a proper swarm style army. No broods less than max size.
So...many...gaunts...
At least with gaunts they're easy to assemble and paint, try adeptus mechanicus or orks, bloody nightmare
What is the best size of magnets for WH40k models? I'm looking at getting some normal space wolves and if I wanted to swap an arm with a different weapon, what magnets should I use? I'm not sure how big these models are...slightly larger than the old wizkids heroclix?
So as someone who considers himself a gamer first and a hobbyist second, build/paint is two things: (1) what I have to do to get a game on the table, and (2) what I use to fill time between game sessions. So I tend to do just the batches I need to play, and if I buy an expansion I'll build and paint it so I can get it on the table before moving on to the next one.
I'm generally build - paint since I don't often have large projects. Just an add on here or there.
My personal rule to make sure I paint things is to never play with unpainted models. Works like a charm.
I found for me that i just get a random kick to paint (granted kill team has been a huge help for that im breezing through Death Watch models) but also getting with some friends who also hobby and painting with them makes it seem like much less of a slog. I knocked out 10 firewarriors for Tau sitting with some friends. Beer also helps if youre of age.
I haven't found my optimum strategy yet, but I am trying a few rules since only last week. I can only start building a new model once I finished building the last one, and I have to paint two models for every one I build. I am converting a lot for Necromunda, so I don't build squads, and I never seem to finish anything... I know, pa-chau you did a video on that. 😊