5 Times Survivor Players Made Underrated Dumb Moves 3.0
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- To be fair to Ben, he was never known for being good at creating winnable endgames.
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It's so ironic that it would have been better for Chris to have lost his vote immediately rather than get an extension for one tribal.
While voting out Ben may have been a dumb move, Sarah's real dumb move was not doing the vote split on Final Six in Winners at War (same with Ben). They didn't split between Natalie and Denise, even though Natalie could (and did!) have an idol, so Ben and Tony had to use their idols to avoid going home. If they split votes, Ben and Tony can keep their idols for Final 5 and basically just needed one of them to win immunity (which Tony ended up doing) to guarantee they all make Final 4
i remember how stupid and stubborn sarah was during that whole episode makes sense she is a cop
"Because Caryn sucks" is one of my all-time favorite Survivor quotes.
Mine too
It’s absolutely true because she ruined any chance for a woman to win that season
@@tokyotourist I know, and I'm glad about that.
I have held the opinion that getting voted out with an idol isn't a dumb move. Idols are usually played as guesses, so saying that leaving with an idol is dumb (even in the case of James in 15), doesn't make sense to me.
That said, Chris Noble is the exception to that. This is the only time where I would consider it dumb. Glad you brought it up.
Chris is a masterpiece of lack of self awareness. Truly a sight to behold.
I agree, sometimes holding an idol makes more sense because you know you have to be careful about when you use it and it’s not often when you are certain it will be needed for you. In some cases you may also have to think about the long game, where holding the idol for later is crucial, especially if you have no reason to suspect you are a target.
This is also why idol plays more often than not are not successful, because it’s rare as to when it’s obvious that playing the idol is the right move, and you can easily play it at the wrong time!
And Vince
I'll also add Liana not playing Shot in the Dark at the final 7. You got blindsided last round, you saw a new majority form (with an extra vote you know about at that) and the other two people in the minority are immune. Probably wouldn't have mattered since it was Shot in the Dark but it still would've had A chance of success.
Jason in Micronesia is also a contender for this exception in my eyes
dude only survived the last 2 tribal councils due to an immunity win and Ozzy being vulnerable. For him to suddenly believe that James would be the bigger threat in the eyes of the women (escpecially when he has an idol in his pocket) is incredibly shortsighted (but not surprising for the guy who thought a stick was an idol)
The thing about Caryn is that it MAY have worked if Katie wasn’t there. Bad social game by Katie made it so Caryn wouldn’t flip. I’m pretty damn sure that if you swap Katie with Janu, Caryn makes that move. Had Katie *not* had a feud with Caryn, there’s a shot that Jenn wins Palau
it should also be noted Gregg was really against not voting out Stephenie when Tom was first exposed. He thought she was untouchable after she conquered Ulong and was going to run through Koror. I'm not sure Jenn would've ultimately sided with the female alliance at that time either. Still Caryn imploded her own game, and watching Tom's reaction when she was spilling the juice to him is priceless.
Sarah needed a move that Tony wasn’t a part of, that she could spin to her advantage.
Simply getting into FTC wasn’t going to win her the prize and she realized that - something that many in the end game don’t.
you also need a good move to be the differentiating thing, what was the path Sarah was hoping for in voting out ben?
I don't believe this for a second.
The idea that she NEEDED to make a BIG MOVE against Tony is the fallacy that caused her to slip up.
She played a great game up to that point. She had several very influential allies in her corner on the jury like Kim and Sophie.
Yes Tony did make THE big move of the season, but Sarah consistently had much stronger social plays. Yeah, she likely loses to Tony if they're both in the finals (though I don't even know if that's completely true), but if she does keep Ben, and Ben takes Tony out in fire, Sarah's got that final tribal in the bag.
I think the final 6 vote of 44 was a pretty dumb move by Heidi. Perhaps Jaime and Lauren were playing better games than the edit suggested, but to give Tika a guaranteed majority for the rest of the game and guarantee that at least one of them would make the final 3 seems like a really bad move in retrospect.
I have to disagree on this one. While I don't consider Heidi's choice to be a game-winning one, going with the Tikas is her best chance of going to FTC thanks to firemaking. Lauren and Jamie voted for Heidi at the F7 vote and who is to say that they won't consider writing her name down at the F5?
@@Videoandme1this is the most logical reasoning I heard. I agree. Didnt they vote her name a few times IIRC? But ya, she couldn't trust them, so I see why she did what she did
@@Videoandme1 With Danny gone at F7, Heidi doesn't have much power in the game, and it becomes pretty obvious that Tika is running the show. Her best chance to win, imo, is to ally with Jaime and Lauren and get rid of Carson and Yam Yam at 6 and 5. It's still tough at that point since I think she still loses to both Lauren and Carolyn, but I think Jaime is the only person in that F6 that she beats, so getting rid of her was a bad move.
@@Videoandme1this is actually true, it has been confirmed jamie Lauren Carson and yam yam had a tight 4. Still kind of dumb Imo thoufh
Did you forget that Lauren tried to sway everyone to vote her out instead of Danny, and then turned around and voted Frannie out?
She didn't trust Ratu. They burned her too many times in the past for her to take that chance.
She was obviously confident enough in her fire making skills that if she was the fourth wheel against the three Tika in the finals, that she could still win her way to the finals.
I have a suggestion for a video. You know how the casting looks for types or categories (i.e. "the mom" or "the laywer" or "the superfan"). I would love to see what casting "type" has won the most. Because, some consatstants can fill more that one type.
I think with Sarah’s move, it comes down to the fact that she was never willing to get rid of Tony. She was thinking through a lens of “I’m going to be sitting with Tony at the end, so I need moves down the stretch that he is not a part of.” If she was actually considering going to the end without Tony, I think she keeps Ben.
I'm enjoying these dumb moves❤
IDEA: I think I came up with a new good idea for a video. I'll share it as a suggestion.
I was re-watching the final tribal council from Winners at War because I love Tony's and Michelle's performances. It was something Michelle said that triggered this idea.
She says at one point that she played this game with integrity, and I realized that she indeed appears surprisingly to have done just that. It's funny to me, because usually in Survivor the players that say that, well.. they say it a lot, and they are unaware of the fact that they did NOT play with integrity.
I'm sure Michelle didn't set out to play with integrity necessarily (she probably just wanted to find a way to win), but she ended up playing that game probably because of her personality, and for sure because of her positioning in the game, not having the control.
It would be super interesting to me to see a top, or a video about the players that actually played with integrity, real integrity, not Coach Wade - integrity. 🤣
I guess it would be kinda difficult to make a video about that. First you need to define it. And we only see what production chooses to show us in 42 minute per episode... I wonder if I can think right now of any other players that fit this.
Hmm, Ian from Palau? Colby? Woo? I'm not sure about Woo. Why did he choose Tony? Because of loyalty? But even so, the rest of his game I don't feel he played with integrity, I don't know.
Did Lil' from Pearl Islands play with integrity? I don't remember 😂
I can't think of any more at the moment, but I feel that there are some players that probably were mid-game boots.
Hmm, Morriah from Survivor 43? She was too nice for the game 😂
Ok, this all the effort I'm gonna do. It would be awesome if you like the idea and make a video about this or something similar if you find an angle you like better.
Much love ❤️
One I've always felt was an underrated bad move was Pete Yurkowski blowing up Lisa's Malcolm blindside in Phillipines.
If Pete just keeps his mouth shut, they have a really good chance to take the biggest threat out with an idol in his pocket. That means Penner is out next round even if Skupin flips since Jeff Kent is there to make the numbers work. And I'd have to assume that means at least one of Pete, Abi or Artis are able to bully there way to FTC.
Kind of strange Pete didn’t stay quiet on this, when he had no problem with quietly fueling the Abi/RC feud.
Was this the merge vote when they voted off RC? Trying to remember it’s been so long haha
@@koshea44 this was the following episode, where they wound up doing “plan z” and voting off Jeff Kent :)
@@kingofthorns203 Ahh that’s right. I remember it being a funky tribal and it seemed odd they decided on Jeff. So basically Pete just thought that Malcolm would stick with him, Artis, and Abi after that?
@@kingofthorns203 Because if I remember correctly Jeff Kent was voted out at 10, and then at 9 they voted out Artis and from there it was over for Pete obviously.
I love this series so much!
Same here.
On the Palau DVD Commentary, They said one of the reasons why They voted out Steph instead of Tom was because of Greg. Jenn had a relationship with Greg and although Jenn wanted to make the move, Greg was too threatened by Steph for being the sole player from Ulong to make the Merge, and he also had a working relationship with Tom and Ian. So i think it was a combanation between Karen and Greg that got Tom the win
The only people who made underrated dumb moves are the ones who have yet to press the subscribe button. That is a true survivor crime.
I don't think tht underrated I think thts just dumb as dumb is.
I saw your comment and chuckled to myself. Then I checked and saw I wasn't subscribed! I've been a fan for years wtf! Someone snuff my torch!
As much as I love Cirie and as much as hate the way she was eliminated in GC,voting out Andrea is one of the things that opened the door for it to happen since Brad was a known challenge threat and would never work with her.
True.
You’re just repeating what he said in the video
I think Ben might have been tired of playing the game. He's almost saying please vote me out. I think Sarah may have read the situation that way too and voted accordingly.
I've heard that when Natalie came back and said how much of a threat Tony was, she also said how Ben was going to be a jury goat. I think this just triggered something in Ben where he decided he'd rather be on the jury than torn apart by it.
100 percent agree with the Andrea boot from Survivor 34
I'mm surprised you haven't mentioned Chanelle in 42 risking her vote in any of these videos yet
Because that's not underrated, everyone knows and harps on how dumb that was
@@rowan4573 to be fair everyone also does that for Chris in Ghost Island but he still mentioned it in this video
@@Quetzal00358 fair enough
I think Sarah’s worse move on that season was not splitting the votes on Denise.
game changers post merge felt incredibly convoluted and not edited well. its like oh these two people are good buddies and allies. and then all of a sudden, for some reason, they're gunning for each other. I'm like huhhhh? so hard to follow the alliances and relationships. almost like we need Peridiam to do a "battle map" video for every episode of game changers
That Caryn/Karen stat is wild!!!
Dumbest move of Season 7 was Lillian voting out Fairplay over Sandra at final 3 and her reasoning being her and Sandra were moms and she didn’t like Jon’s lifestyle of partying
Oh easily. But that wouldn’t be a video called “underrated dumb moves” since it was so clearly one of the dumbest moves of all time haha
I don't really see this as a dumb move. I think Lil knew her winning was, at best, a tough sell, and was worried Fairplay would either blow the million or get himself killed. Sure, it wasn't optimal gameplay, but that wasn't really the point.
Although Chris’s move from Ghost Island was dumb, we should not overlook Laurel not blindsiding Wendell at the final 8.
Thank you for posting the video.
" u know ur taking it serious when u run out of jokes "
I recently watched the entirety of Winners At War and I gotta say: That season was a HUGE mess!
Sarah made numerous dumb moves during WaW. I think worse was ignoring Tony and not splitting the votes on Natalie and Denise at the final 6. There was no reason not to split the votes. Tony pointed out how the person who returned from EOE had an idol last time, but Sarah was so confident that wouldn't happen that she threw caution into the wind for no good reason. Sarah was so confident Natalie didn't have an idol because she thought Natalie would tell her everything after their first conversation in the entire game (this was basically a month). If Michelle and Natalie hadn't made a dumber move and agreed to vote out Denise (who posed no threat whatsoever) it's quite likely that Sarah or Tony go home because she was so arrogant to think she knew everything. I think this played into Sarah's move to get rid of Ben instead of Michelle. She promised the girls they would make it to final 4 if they voted Denise and I think she was afraid going back on her word would ruin her reputation on the jury. In Sarah's mind she was sitting next to Tony in FTC and she didn't want to be responsible for a bitter juror.
The more I think about it, Natalie Anderson played by far and away the worst game of survivor on WaW. She played an all time bad game (and I think she played one of the all time best games in SJDS). She gets voted out first and then she makes the wrong decision every tribal.First tribal back, she tries to get rid of the biggest goat left in the game, gets stopped and then proceeds to vote for the next biggest goat, who was also very weak in challenges. The next tribal, she erases any chance she had at winning by voting out the other remaining goat. The next tribal she decides to make the 2 biggest threats do fire against each other, rather than build a resume and take one of them out (Boston Rob and the others all told each other on EOE they needed to do this to get each other's votes. Rob had them all practice fire too).
I still think Corrine was planning a great game in Caramoan, only to throw it away at the merge.
Between the way Ben played on Winners at War and Challenge World Championship I really question how Ben won in the first place
Firemaking. Need I say more?
@Videoandme1 Even without firemaking I still question cause firemaking doesn't happen until 4 so that means either your alliances have to be solid or you win challenges
3 Immunity Idols
I mean it's Ben. His win was essentially handed to him in many respects. Kudos to him for winning firemaking when it counted, though.
Careful, you'll get beat to death if you do. By people still angry that "Bitch-ele" won
I need you to know that I have a full 15 slide PowerPoint on why Sarah’s move at the Top 5 of Season 40 was a bad move.
Sorry for the random unsolicited video idea, but the whole Jamie thing from last season got me wondering: Has anyone else ever tried telling the truth only for it to completely backfire?
I just remembered how fuckin weird the top 5 of WaW was.
I won’t lie, I tried to understand why Sarah took out Ben over Michelle, especially with Ben encouraging her to do it, but even right after watching it back in 2021, it felt wrong to make that move.
Sure, you can argue Sarah was still in a tough spot to win if she made it to the final tribal with Tony or Ben, but I could see a scenario where she beats Ben and ultimately she should have focused more on getting to the final 3, which she could have secured if she just took out Michelle here! A weird move even with the context of Ben telling her to vote him out!
Sarah Lacina looks like something out of Goonies and Wrong Turn😂
Cirie making a mistake is only hard to talk about bc when she makes a mistake a bunch of fanboys run across the Earth like Marathon to yell that she's overrated and Not Actually Good and we only like her bc she's a woman and we're SJWs and yadda yadda yadda and then go on to act like Rick Devens is flawless- which has word for word been my Survivor experience. When a woman makes a bad move and it at all hampers her game (and I'll be frank and take the risk- a woman of color especially) it means her whole legacy was tarnished, but a dude's can be overlooked if it wasn't directly what sent him home. Reddit is fun, y'all
Ikr
Still upset about the Andrea boot. Season would have went in a whole better direction i feel if Brad went home instead. An Andrea, Aubrey, Cire, Michaela F4 would have been iconic. I dont understand how Cirie trusted Sarah more than Andrea, when Sarah had previously flipped on them and was clearly closer to the other side.
“Because Caryn sucks.” Yes! My favorite quote of all time!
Is Burton named after Burton Earnie?
Caryn looks a lot like post-shame walk Cersei
It's almost as if Sarah is just a bit...overrated...
Hate to say it, you're right. She won because Brad was a bully. If Brad were more likable, I think he would have won.
@@janejones7638 I mean she knew Brad was an ass going in and took advantage of that. It's like Russel. Doesn't matter how much you dominate strategy really. If you aren't likable to your jury you ain't winning.
Fun to see who would have lost if their FTC partner was likable so they suck, and who deliberately aligned with unlikable people to the end and are as such uncriticizable. I wonder what the difference is 🤔
Also funny that between 30 and 40 literally 2 women won those 11 seasons and we spend all our time picking apart their games and declaring they didn't deserve it
@@ashen_roses And if a man wins 45, it'll be 5 in the last 20. And Natalie is the only one of those five not getting that treatment, if even that.
Was Chris paid off to throw the game? That might be the most incomprehensibly idiotic thing to do, so high risk for little reward. No, actually, it was BARELY a risk. He beefed with Domenick at a TC he couldn't vote for him at, heard Dom holler at him in his votecon, and then Dom GAVE HIMSELF IMMUNITY, and Chris still thought he didn't need to worry? My pick for worst move. Even if he was fucked, he'd be fucked early merge at most anyway if he survived the first two rounds. The low benefit gets me; the overall outcome will likely not be less hostile to Chris than the merge vote
I think the reason why sarah voted out Ben was actually because she wanted tony to win
Chris’s move was probably the worst in modern survivor history
Michele voting out Denise and bringing Sara to the final five is so dumb it's inexcusable. However, it's better that it worked out that way because it benefited Tony and no one wanted to see Michele, Denise, and Natalie as the final three.
I mean if Michele doesn't get any votes that sounds like a pretty damn good final three.
Michelle becomes the second two time winner and proves she deserve to win
I’ll randomly use “because caryn sucks” to answer questions. Why isn’t my phone charging? Because Caryn sucks. Why does my head hurt? Because Caryn sucks.
lol
Shame nobody watches Survivor Quebec. This past week, a contestant made what i believe to be arguably the DUMBEST move in any franchise.
Soooo what was the dumb move?
You can’t just leave us that kinda cliffhanger
@Xander Matthews FULL SPOILERS INCOMING FOR SURVIVOR QUEBEC. This girl was at final 6 with 1 expired idol and a real idol. She's has been coasting in an unbreakable alliance since the tribe swap. She wants to beef up her resume, but still go to the end with the two "strongest" players. So she forms a plan to first play her expired idol on the super obvious boot, and then play her real idol on one of her allies and "strong player". She also plans on splitting the votes 2 for the obvious vote and 4 on the ally she is saving with her real idol. Not only is this humiliating to the fake idol recipient, but she accomplishes absolutely nothing by voting out the player who's drawing dead and keeping 2 people she likely can't beat in final 3. Low and behold, she actually goes through with her plan, all while making a big long speech in the process while the jury is instantly judging her terrible useless move. And in the end, the ally she played her idol on and another girl turned on her and voted out her ally and the Godfather of the season in a 3-2-1 vote, wasting both of her idols, eliminating her ally, putting her in a minority, clowning herself in front of the jury and giving her a near impossible chance of winning all in one tribal council.
Sorry if that's a lot and if there are details missing. The season is absolutely terrible for a number of reasons, but this moment was Survivor gold in my opinion.
m.ruclips.net/video/ZO9yVkTIQx8/видео.html
We can't have an all-girls alliance because Caryn sucks!
That Ben vote for Sarah’s resume was the cringiest thing I’ve ever seen. Makes both of them look pathetic tbh
Re: Caryn
I kinda started thinking over the years why Caryn sucked.
We all know she was loaded, so money isn't a motivation for her, and I think she was cluey enough at a certain point she was never going to win even if she made it to FTC (the jury just where never going to respect her), so she decided that if she wasn't going to win (after a bit of flip-flopping), she was at least going to help out the game of the person she wanted to win (Tom).
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Hey my name is is Jacob Fischer am a big fan Boy of Survivor. Another dumb move was Kelly Wiglesworth taking Richard Hatch to the final 2 instead of Sue Hawk or Rudy Boesch because if she would have taken either of these 2 Kelly would have won the first Season
Rudy would have beaten Kelly, and it wouldn't have been particularly close.