a genuinely unhinged SunnyV2 video

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
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  • @littlestjoel
    @littlestjoel  Год назад +5698

    i know this one is long for Little Joel. Idk man, no way could this go on the main channel lol

    • @lautaroescarlon7501
      @lautaroescarlon7501 Год назад +314

      I hope one day you swap uploading little joel's videos into big joel's and vice-versa and don't say a word.

    • @user-ro9md9wp3j
      @user-ro9md9wp3j Год назад +673

      This is why a Medium Joel channel is needed.

    • @huckthatdish
      @huckthatdish Год назад +243

      The masses clamor for medium Joel!

    • @kovacsgyorgy5043
      @kovacsgyorgy5043 Год назад +124

      @@user-ro9md9wp3j How about just an Average Joe(l)

    • @jlemsey2232
      @jlemsey2232 Год назад +15

      I'll take more react content, I personally will

  • @DanaTubetestik
    @DanaTubetestik Год назад +5066

    The way Sunnyv2 talks about content creators is so weird. Like they are fictional characters that exist solely to be perceived by an audience and not real people.

    • @Dis_Dis
      @Dis_Dis Год назад +3

      Well because he does see them that way. When Mr Beast's friend came out as trans he made the comparison of "Like characters shoved into a show for cheap representation" and he was constantly talking about the brand of Mr Beast as if the friends of Beast were nothing more than assets. He's terminally online which explains why he does these pseudo-journalistic, heavily biased videos about mostly the popular figures of a country he doesn't reside in. He doesn't have human relationships so the people he sees on the internet (Especially people that belong to groups he hates) might as well be fictitious.

    • @spaceghostmiid
      @spaceghostmiid 9 месяцев назад +347

      the only sunnyv2 video i made the mistake of clicking on before i knew who he was he was just making fun of a 14 year old youtuber for being trans

    • @legalam
      @legalam 9 месяцев назад +8

      You are correct, they are not real people

    • @legalam
      @legalam 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@spaceghostmiidname of video? I want to watch it

    • @spaceghostmiid
      @spaceghostmiid 9 месяцев назад +191

      @@legalam can’t find it, i’m thinking it was actually a moon video but they blend together in my head because they both make weird vague right wing content disguised as innocent videos

  • @Dredgeon
    @Dredgeon Год назад +5240

    I've got my own Ninja theory. He became extremely popular in the span of a year. Realized that his audience is mostly children and decided to clean up his act.

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Год назад +443

      seems legit. and i cant be mad about that

    • @pellabologna
      @pellabologna Год назад +725

      sounds like youre covering for his DARK SIDE

    • @ThePhantom4516
      @ThePhantom4516 Год назад +578

      That’s just so obviously what happened. Dude got a massive audience & went clean to get his bag. It’s THAT simple. Dude was never racist or a bad person, just more edgy & adult oriented.

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 11 месяцев назад +32

      And his DmC remake was crap

    • @trianglemoebius
      @trianglemoebius 10 месяцев назад +255

      ​@@ThePhantom4516 I wouldn't even say it was just to get money, he probably also realised that, since his audience is mostly children, he has to be more responsible as a matter of principal. Adults can understand nuance and irony far easier, and so if you audience is adults you can safely get away with being a bit edgy - it'll be understood (Pyrocynical comes to mind). But once your audience is children - a more naive, impressionable group by default - you really have to clean up accordingly.
      Interesting - and this is more at Sonny than you - isn't this what we've always asked of streamers? People have always been quick to criticise those who spread bad attuites to their audiences despite knowing how young said audiences are? It's weird that someone finally shaped up and took responsibility, and people like Sunny are acting like it's a betrayal of values or whatever.

  • @Etchacritic
    @Etchacritic Год назад +4104

    Ninja is low in compassion. In Fortnite, after killing someone, you’re supposed to travel to the grieving widow’s house to break the news in person.

    • @cyncynshop
      @cyncynshop Год назад +2

      I'm sorry I sniped your husband while he's dancing on the rooftop. I'm also sorry for typing ggez after that.

    • @ralphbrennan7700
      @ralphbrennan7700 Год назад +56

      A genuinely funny comment lol

    • @baintreachas
      @baintreachas 11 месяцев назад +32

      imo this is even funnier bc in real life this would actually be even worse idk controversial maybe

    • @Wombattlr
      @Wombattlr 8 месяцев назад +36

      Presumably by hitting the griddy on them

    • @SoupyPoopy21
      @SoupyPoopy21 8 месяцев назад +30

      This is true I once traveled hundreds of miles to bury an enemy player under a rare tree from their home land.

  • @fjordojustice
    @fjordojustice Год назад +3721

    I love how SunnyV2's default assumption when someone says something political he disagrees with is "this person is faking for attention" and not "this person holds options I don't".

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Год назад +403

      In the ninja video, what he seems to be saying is that people are incapable of changing for the better. And if they seem to have changed, they're just a fake who is lying to themselves.

    • @theautisticguitarist7560
      @theautisticguitarist7560 Год назад +208

      I've known people who assume that by default anytime someone lives differently to them. Specifically if they're trans or not straight.

    • @TACOINSURANCE
      @TACOINSURANCE Год назад

      He’s a pretty typical right winger just pretending he isn’t and doing a terrible job of it.

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 Год назад +170

      I'm starting to question SunnyV2's... Like. Internal thoughts. And his ability to grow as a person.

    • @r_bear
      @r_bear Год назад +60

      It's the only reason he would do anything positive, so he projects that onto everybody else.

  • @upsettriscuit
    @upsettriscuit Год назад +13792

    I love the idea that someone’s “dark side” is not being racist

    • @JawnLouis
      @JawnLouis Год назад +100

      Lmao 😂😂😂

    • @potatobro501
      @potatobro501 Год назад +553

      Well for the KKK members it's a dark side. No joke intended.

    • @crystalw_725
      @crystalw_725 Год назад +526

      reminds me of those memes from a while back like:
      Evil Ninja be like
      Black Lives Matter

    • @silloweet
      @silloweet Год назад +4

      You sheep all hyper-fixated on a solitary out of context point

    • @ChrisA2
      @ChrisA2 Год назад +507

      @@silloweet How so? He’s said something pro Black Lives Matter and Sunny found the one ratiod hater and highlighted it as if it was everywhere.

  • @samueld8413
    @samueld8413 Год назад +2434

    General rule of thumb: Sneako being used as a source = argument invalid

    • @PisserFartShitt
      @PisserFartShitt Год назад +10

      Especially nowadays hahaha

    • @Acro_YT
      @Acro_YT Год назад +66

      Lmao 💀

    • @Dis_Dis
      @Dis_Dis Год назад +1

      Sneako the Pedo. The most respectable source of information there is.

    • @billxrl4154
      @billxrl4154 10 месяцев назад +115

      Sneako used as a source = use corpse as fertilizer

    • @jadegreenleaf781
      @jadegreenleaf781 4 месяца назад +33

      ​@@billxrl4154just be careful, not all plants enjoy high acidity or toxicity in their soil 😊

  • @DreadedWalrus
    @DreadedWalrus Год назад +10184

    Ninja said "killing is bad" but then he plays a video game where he kills people. This shows that he does not see value in human life, and in fact enjoys being the one to personally end them.

    • @maxinator317
      @maxinator317 Год назад +753

      This shouldn't be too surprising, since ninja has always been known to be low on compassion

    • @Im-BAD-at-satire
      @Im-BAD-at-satire Год назад +209

      This joke could apply to most anything.

    • @GasparGa
      @GasparGa Год назад +745

      I mean ninjas were assassins in Japan. Hes clearly chosen this name because he likes murdering people. In real life! Allegedly.

    • @olympiaelda1121
      @olympiaelda1121 Год назад +19

      Killing...like IRL. You know its different from a game, right?

    • @terrestrialTerror
      @terrestrialTerror Год назад +332

      @@olympiaelda1121 that's the joke

  • @Patricia_Taxxon
    @Patricia_Taxxon Год назад +1241

    the "he doesn't know he's fake" is such a weird point, like if you don't know you're fake are you even fake?? its the deciding factor in that judgement actually

    • @ataraxia7439
      @ataraxia7439 Год назад +115

      I guess maybe you could like, posit that someone is inauthentic in a way they lack the self awareness to recognize. Like someone who only does charity when it can be in a visible way that makes you look good but still thinning of yourself as someone who’s charitable just for the sake of it. It’s a really weird idea and I think I’m being overly charitable in thinking that’s what they could be going for. Accusing people of being fake or virtue signaling is really easy to claim while really hard to disprove.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад +8

      Fr I wouldn't be surprised if this guy starts an actual cult. That's pretty much the endgame for "influencers" like that.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Год назад +3

      Ack this is like when I'm in the grocery store or laundrette + see an artist whose work I really respect, but they seem pretty lowkey + chill + non-celeb-seeking so it 'd feel intrusive to bug them in public by gushing over their art, but the urge to thank them keeps growing, so I spend a few agonizingly eternal minutes consciously trying to not be/act weird despite the weirdness of the proximal setting & just get my errand done, but mentally blotting out the artist's presence gets more + more cognitively overwhelming, until I just panic & run out of the store or whatever.
      Anyways, wow it's cool to see Patti-Taxx here.

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Год назад +7

      Oh hi Patty :D

    • @rauldjvp3053
      @rauldjvp3053 Год назад +7

      Hello Patricia

  • @miike2
    @miike2 Год назад +1348

    makes me wonder how bad the v1 of Sunny must've been

    • @theschnozzler
      @theschnozzler Год назад +206

      He used to make fordnite videos yeah the joke writes itself

    • @juannaym8488
      @juannaym8488 10 месяцев назад +61

      @@theschnozzler that explains quite a lot

    • @Morbiscrazygirl4447u
      @Morbiscrazygirl4447u 7 месяцев назад +36

      Holy shit but how's v3 of sunny gonna be

    • @fredericksmith7942
      @fredericksmith7942 4 месяца назад +15

      That model was scrapped before he could be shown to the public.

  • @joshuafrendomenendez
    @joshuafrendomenendez Год назад +4484

    Sunny: Ninja is less popular because now he's woke. Also sunny: ninja is just being woke for popularity

    • @alwaystired1
      @alwaystired1 Год назад +548

      Reactionaries do the same thing with Disney. "Go woke go broke!!!!" "They making our movies gay to pander for money!!!!"

    • @MiorAkif
      @MiorAkif Год назад +544

      Schrodinger's strawman. My enemies are both weak and dangerous simultaneously.

    • @wolverinexo6417
      @wolverinexo6417 Год назад +20

      @@MiorAkifexactly

    • @xuxuang8574
      @xuxuang8574 Год назад +32

      Shrodingers popularity.

    • @StevesRightJay
      @StevesRightJay Год назад +128

      tbf i think he means that Ninja 'went woke' to appeal to wider audiences and it backfired because his fans condemned that behavior as 'fake'. Sunny's reasoning behind everything just to confirm his bias is the problem here. He just pulls shit out of his ass to claim he has a proof that political correctness ruined another career.

  • @badger6882
    @badger6882 Год назад +2367

    The idea that negativity and bad behaviour is inherently more honest than positivity and goodness is a genuine tripping point for a lot of people, an immature way to see the world. Suggesting that Ninja's intention to become a marginally better person is a farce and a rebellion against the politically correct, hence archetypally "honest" and "natural" state that SunnyV2 thinks he should be trapped in is so weird

    • @qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7
      @qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 Год назад +300

      As a man who used to be a South Park watching boy, I think some shows like South Park and Rick and Morty teach (usually) boys that apathy and cruelty are qualities tied to secular enlightenment/rationalism.
      That’s obviously bullshit, as any adult would know. But most of the people following or commenting on twitch streamers are under 25, and haven’t realized that they’re not smart, they’re actually just assholes.
      Can’t judge too hard. I didn’t stop being an asshole until I was 25, either.

    • @mashaa.7509
      @mashaa.7509 Год назад +99

      love your comment badger six eight eight two, sunny spends a whole lot of time seemingly projecting. ninja showed change while sunny spent his time regurgitating the same made up talking points and mindlessly applying them to every person he "investigates".

    • @Im-BAD-at-satire
      @Im-BAD-at-satire Год назад +22

      There's being a _nice guy_ then there's being a good guy, I'm not saying that ninja is a nice guy here not to get confused what I'm saying.
      Just because someone is a good guy doesn't mean they're a _nice guy,_ it seems that SunnyV2 doesn't understand that difference neither.

    • @badger6882
      @badger6882 Год назад +139

      @@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 South park, rick and morty and other adult comedy cartoons are a helpful addition to the conversation, I think. Thanks for mentioning. They definitely carry that idea of cruelty = truth, and brutal honestly = the only true honesty.
      The younger audience is definitely susceptible to the reactionary communities in general.

    • @badger6882
      @badger6882 Год назад +16

      @@mashaa.7509 Thanks! Yeah, a lot of projection going on here

  • @MsMarco6
    @MsMarco6 8 месяцев назад +2398

    Lets not forget when Sunny suggested Mrbeast F***ed up by not immediately abandoning one of his bestfriends for being Trans.
    Really shows you what kind of guy Sunny is.

    • @littlecommie27
      @littlecommie27 7 месяцев назад +146

      British

    • @littlecommie27
      @littlecommie27 7 месяцев назад +56

      This is a joke sorry

    • @existential_horror5045
      @existential_horror5045 7 месяцев назад +225

      @@littlecommie27even worse, he's australian
      (this is also a joke i don't hate aussies)

    • @Tiger47962
      @Tiger47962 6 месяцев назад

      @@existential_horror5045I do

    • @Ringothetankengine-qy1vl
      @Ringothetankengine-qy1vl 5 месяцев назад +64

      @@existential_horror5045 At least he's not the LOWEST, White South african
      (once again, a joke)

  • @EggyDaxy
    @EggyDaxy Год назад +3883

    Sunnyv2 is the type of guy to say cancel culture is the worst thing ever and then call out someone for “getting too political”

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Год назад +410

      Aka a conservative

    • @EggyDaxy
      @EggyDaxy Год назад +579

      @@enotsnavdier6867 shhh the apolitical people get mad when you call them that

    • @Khamthegoblin
      @Khamthegoblin Год назад +99

      @@EggyDaxy LMFAOO 💀

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Год назад +134

      @@EggyDaxy so do centrists for that matter lmao

    • @cubicbanban
      @cubicbanban Год назад

      When progressives say progressive things this is "cancel culture".
      When conservatives say conservative things this is "freedom of speech".

  • @olly3231
    @olly3231 Год назад +1881

    Big Joel and Little Joel are finally merging. This was inevitable. The creation of appropriately sized Joel is coming.

    • @lemsavage9473
      @lemsavage9473 Год назад +136

      Little Joel fans literally only have one joke and it still hasn't gotten old

    • @Jojo-uc9or
      @Jojo-uc9or Год назад +80

      Medium Joel shall be born out the merging.

    • @h.c.49
      @h.c.49 Год назад +62

      And he shall be called... 'Joel'.

    • @vimproved
      @vimproved Год назад +60

      Big Joel, Little Joel, Wide Joel, Thin Joel. Long ago the four Joels lived together in harmony, but all that changed when the Video Essays attacked

    • @willowsilver1284
      @willowsilver1284 Год назад +4

      @@vimproved 😂❤️

  • @TheNathanTR
    @TheNathanTR Год назад +4212

    My favorite Sunny moment was in his lotto winner one, where he says specifically a 16 year old girl blew through her lotto winnings by “going on expensive vacations” and making “bad loans” to friends. Because I guess saying “gave money to her friends and took them on vacation with her” relayed a far too generous personality and it didn’t fit the tone of the video.

    • @cooliostarstache5474
      @cooliostarstache5474 Год назад +364

      "Gave money to her friends and took them on vacation" is still unbelievably irresponsible if it's ALL of the lotto money

    • @JJAntz11
      @JJAntz11 Год назад +16

      he uploads what he wants it don’t hurt anyone why make this comment 💀

    • @mattwayne9128
      @mattwayne9128 Год назад +113

      Of all the examples to bring up of Sunny being dishonest, this is easily the lowest IQ take to use, my guy.

    • @appleseed4672
      @appleseed4672 Год назад +611

      @@JJAntz11 Nathan's comment doesn't hurt anyone, so why make your comment 🤡

    • @banquetoftheleviathan1404
      @banquetoftheleviathan1404 Год назад +149

      But she was “too nice” that money should have gone to greedier people lmfao

  • @robinvik1
    @robinvik1 Год назад +9701

    If being anti-racism alienates half your audience, then you have done something seriously wrong while building your community.

    • @seasonsofus
      @seasonsofus Год назад +282

      Exactly 😭

    • @guspewe
      @guspewe Год назад +165

      I read this comment & then screamed, “BINGO!”

    • @6Angello1
      @6Angello1 Год назад

      It's not about that it's about how he became a bitch nigga afraid to have a opinion

    • @Eddooo97
      @Eddooo97 Год назад +61

      Well said pallas cat

    • @imacarguy4065
      @imacarguy4065 Год назад +29

      Unless people don't want to listen to rhetoric, virtue signaling and politics.

  • @klaydahl3631
    @klaydahl3631 Год назад +5871

    i think it's incredibly concerning how popular sunnyv2's videos are getting because of how he constructs narratives that don't exist. unlike a lot of other youtubers who make video essays about other content creators, sunnyv2's intentions just seem like he wants to push a manufactured agenda rather than understand a person and their career

    • @LukeOnDemand
      @LukeOnDemand Год назад +718

      i’ve always thought the way sunny makes videos is he figures out what title will get the most clicks and then just makes up shit to fit the supposed narrative the title implies

    • @notrod5341
      @notrod5341 Год назад +684

      Speaks to the power of aesthetics. SunnyV2 edits like a normal video essay, but has the content of a typical drama youtuber where they just kinda say shit that happened and draw some wacky conclusions. If he was just a dude filming himself in his room I suspect he'd have far less credibility.

    • @uniquename7769
      @uniquename7769 Год назад +338

      The first video of his I watched I left like 2 minutes in because he kept misgendering the person he was talking about. I guess it's par for the course for this kind of guy.

    • @daltonbedore8396
      @daltonbedore8396 Год назад

      his agenda is normalizing sociopathy, apparently

    • @myirlname
      @myirlname Год назад +24

      @@uniquename7769 which video was it?

  • @ProletarianPower
    @ProletarianPower Год назад +1367

    I hate very few things, but when someone says "You are a (blank), stay out of politics." I hate that. It's okay to be concerned with politics. Politics are certainly concerned with us. Leaving politics to the politicians is a problem.

    • @jimjimson6208
      @jimjimson6208 Год назад +71

      Is THE problem tbh, since I'm convinced 99% of them are narcissists lol

    • @A2kisses
      @A2kisses Год назад +93

      exactly lol, we should all be at least somewhat concerned with politics

    • @sealeo5772
      @sealeo5772 9 месяцев назад +89

      There is no such thing as apolitical media. Everything you do is political; complaining about the price of groceries expresses your political opinion on food tariffs or commercial agriculture throwing away supply to increase the price, taking a branded sponsorship is an endorsement of that company and their politics, and saying "you shouldn't say something so political" in response to anti-racism is just saying that you see racism as a default state of being.

    • @ProletarianPower
      @ProletarianPower 9 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed

    • @tikki2340
      @tikki2340 9 месяцев назад +19

      It’s crazy when they bring up their job too, as if jobs and markets aren’t like the biggest things currently affected by politics?

  • @trippwraze1509
    @trippwraze1509 Год назад +6224

    “You’re a gamer, why are you talking about politics?” Ah yes, the gaming community, a group that has famously never been political.

    • @InfiniteDeckhand
      @InfiniteDeckhand Год назад +757

      ''I don't like politics in my games, but only if it's politics that I don't agree with.''

    • @user-ni7ui1nk8p
      @user-ni7ui1nk8p Год назад +35

      @@InfiniteDeckhand nobody likes politics in their video games. If a RUclips gamer started talking about how abortion is evil, I would feel just as put off as if that person said abortion is good. Video games are meant as an escape anyways.

    • @InfiniteDeckhand
      @InfiniteDeckhand Год назад +716

      @@user-ni7ui1nk8p Speak for yourself, not for everyone else.

    • @Bruh1
      @Bruh1 Год назад +24

      @@InfiniteDeckhandhe is. I don’t like having viewpoints shoved in my face even if I agree

    • @InfiniteDeckhand
      @InfiniteDeckhand Год назад

      @@Bruh1 You is not everybody. Get off your high horse.

  • @meanerva
    @meanerva Год назад +4949

    Love that Sunny is hailed by others as some kind of non-biased and purely objective being when the dude's tone is " clearly pissed off " as he sprinkles in weird unnecessary remarks throughout his videos, you can hear the pure anguished strain on his voice over certain people. It's a real shame he deleted his video about Shane Dawson being a victim of le cancel culture, I think this shows us his dark side descent into madness fake persona tbh

    • @samsbonesss1486
      @samsbonesss1486 Год назад +1

      HE MADE A FUCKING SHANE DAWSON IS A VICTIM VIDEO OMMMMG!!! HOW DOES SOMEONE EVEN DO THAT????
      Sunny rlly out here saying racism and pedophile is funny.

    • @moemunneymoe
      @moemunneymoe Год назад +217

      Damn I didn't know he made a video about Shane Dawson. A few RUclipsrs I watch react to his videos and he gets treated like some genius mini documentarian. I only really watched his videos for background noise. I prefer TRO and Joon the King.

    • @Johnnycpublic
      @Johnnycpublic Год назад +48

      most of the time he is impartial but this ninja video was kinda personal for him I think haha.
      he must of loved old ninja.

    • @JVictorOH
      @JVictorOH Год назад +218

      Charlie always reacts to this as if it was the holy bible

    • @lufufi3iboo
      @lufufi3iboo Год назад +148

      @@JVictorOH well charlie's fallen øff quite a lot

  • @Kickiusz
    @Kickiusz Год назад +1510

    I love the idea that anyone in gaming space would think that being openly pro-BLM would _boost_ their popularity. You know, gamers, famous for their love for progressive causes.

    • @Unidentified_Entity6
      @Unidentified_Entity6 10 месяцев назад

      G*mers

    • @stephengrigg5988
      @stephengrigg5988 9 месяцев назад +129

      Yes, COD 4 lobbies were MLK's dream😂
      Sunny just seems like the average opinionated asshole that for some reason has a highly respected reputation. I don't understand it, he's always come off like a smug hypocrite to me

    • @silence7896
      @silence7896 8 месяцев назад +27

      @@stephengrigg5988 SunnyV2 isn't one guy, it's an entire automated team of people pushing out video essays that are effectively brain junk food.

    • @thegreatpiginthesky3904
      @thegreatpiginthesky3904 8 месяцев назад

      But BLM isn't even progressive. People who support it are dummies lining the founders pockets

    • @lu_ck
      @lu_ck 7 месяцев назад

      ​@randyRamrandoconstructive comment

  • @scarymonsterzz
    @scarymonsterzz Год назад +986

    The irony of this SunnyV2 guy constantly complaining about cancel culture yet he made this whole click bait video over stuff Ninja has already apologized for and changed his behavior over.

    • @shoutmon1337
      @shoutmon1337 Год назад

      Cancel Culture is 4 the birds. It's a word that means less and less by the day and ppl like Sunny are why. Can't wait for normies to finally recognize it as a dumb right wing smear like "woke" is now.

    • @greyish7212
      @greyish7212 Год назад +146

      "Oh God, cancel culture makes RUclips such a toxic environment!''
      ''Btw, here is a video where I expose a random RUclipsr over random stuff they did!''

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Год назад +62

      The people that whine about "cancel culture" are generally the people that love participating in it. So par for the course really.

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale Год назад +21

      @@mechanomics2649 it's so funny that people have coined the term "cancel culture" and treat it like a boogeyman. For the most part, what they call cancel culture, the rest of the normal world calls "facing consequences for your actions"

    • @stevethebarbarian9876
      @stevethebarbarian9876 Год назад +9

      Yeah, Sunny is a pathetic hypocrite. He says he hates cancel culture, but every single video he makes is personally and vitriolically attacking people on the basis of his perception of the quality of their content. (Sometimes, of course, these attacks are justified.)

  • @stapler942
    @stapler942 Год назад +925

    Whenever I see petty internet drama hit pieces that bring nothing of substance to light, I always think of that attack ad in Clone High: "Last year, Abe said he was 15 years old. Now he claims to be 16. Which is it, Abe? Better keep your story straight."

    • @BlisaBLisa
      @BlisaBLisa Год назад +29

      LMAO

    • @juuuu0
      @juuuu0 Год назад +141

      "He'd also like you to believe he's not a baby eater but he's never gone on record saying he isn't! Maybe he's too busy eating babies" 😂😂😂

    • @stapler942
      @stapler942 Год назад +59

      @@juuuu0 I'd love to think that real life political attack ads don't get nearly as unhinged, but I am not going on record saying they don't.

    • @hellogoato
      @hellogoato Год назад +2

      @@stapler942 Id say they stop just shy of it. Ill never forget this one political slander flyer I got in the mail that used the most blatant manipulation to try and convince you their candidate was better. The "good" candidate had a high quality press photo next to a list of puffed-up positives, and no joke the "bad" one had what looked like a fifth page of Google image search JPEG of the dude with a broken arm lmao. They weren't even trying.
      "Do YOU want a low-resolution candidate who doesn't even have functioning limbs, my dear voter???"

    • @ScorpionClaws789
      @ScorpionClaws789 Год назад

      @@stapler942 I mean, there is an Idaho campaign ad where the woke left throw a baby into a fire so, uh, not that far off?

  • @Alexander-gb4rr
    @Alexander-gb4rr Год назад +660

    I wonder how sunny watches movies. Like, movies with character development and stuff.
    "And so Luke decides to lie to himself and pretend he's a good jedi for clout."

    • @sane8949
      @sane8949 Год назад +163

      "This is the DARK SIDE of Luke Skywalker..."

    • @GyroMan5136
      @GyroMan5136 11 месяцев назад

      And because Harry insisted on being Gryffindor, he lost the Slytherin part of his fanbase in favor of appealing to the "good" Gryffindors instead. He has been losing subscribers in the Slytherin audience ever since due to his pursuit of a fake woke identity.

    • @Damian-km6sk
      @Damian-km6sk 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@sane8949😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

  • @obviousghost5895
    @obviousghost5895 Год назад +673

    I... can't remember the last time I've seen someone unironically do the "negative color footage, so the person looks SCAWY" thing. With the music and everything. Holy shit

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Год назад +77

      Pretty sure the Simpsons was mocking that in the 90s.

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi Год назад +86

      It's kids sensory videos for reactionaries.

    • @plantain.1739
      @plantain.1739 Год назад +20

      In fairness a shit load of other video essays have this "Jangling keys in face" kinda editing. Not really a sunny issue, especially if there was any meat on the bone here.

    • @jiffy6969
      @jiffy6969 Год назад +15

      And he did it twice in the same video, one time with the stupid anonymous mask for some reason

    • @brokengirrafe
      @brokengirrafe Год назад +8

      here's another corny commentary video cliche: intro montages in "The Fall of X" videos set to In the Hall of the Mountain King.

  • @DuncTV
    @DuncTV Год назад +4165

    I'm glad someone is FINALLY pushing back on SunnyV2's content, dude has always rubbed me the wrong way and I constantly see streamers talking up his content.

    • @cheryldragunoff4129
      @cheryldragunoff4129 Год назад +522

      Ludwig hates sunnyv2 and constantly gets push back from other streamers and fans on that opinion

    • @thekroomfster
      @thekroomfster Год назад +339

      @@cheryldragunoff4129 bless ludwig

    • @soccerruben1
      @soccerruben1 Год назад +44

      I know Conure (a smaller streamer) reacted to a SunnyV2 video on steam so yeah, you’re correct. Hope this becomes a trend

    • @THAHANDLER
      @THAHANDLER Год назад +117

      @@emmaeggs i was a fan of critikal at first but his content is getting old now

    • @yuenmienyu
      @yuenmienyu Год назад +224

      @@emmaeggs I really like moist critical but istfg I don't want him using Sunny V2 as a source for information.

  • @nope748
    @nope748 Год назад +1842

    I always got weird vibes from the channel but what (very quickly) made me drop the channel completely was his video on Ryan's toy review. His conclusion on the topic was that Ryan hasn't been and isn't being exploited because he seems okay with it now that he's older.
    I have never seen someone make such a one sided conclusion and completely gloss over all the real, possible negative effects filming can have on a child.

    • @Riverofveins
      @Riverofveins Год назад +3

      SunnyV2 pulls out conclusions out of his ass

    • @cheriomey
      @cheriomey Год назад +84

      same I never knew what it was but his channel always felt so odd

    • @peterjohnson11655
      @peterjohnson11655 Год назад +189

      His videos on Jake and Logan Paul also left a bad taste in my mouth. I have no idea why he seemed so adamant in defending them.

    • @clashbloxblitz789
      @clashbloxblitz789 Год назад +251

      His video on Sis vs Bro was so weird and just plain mean, I dropped the channel after watching it. No, a teenager wanting to separate herself from her child star image is not "arrogant" or "entitled." These actual children don't owe the internet a damn thing, and it's understandable that a young girl trying to grow into her own person reacts poorly to comments like "you've changed!" or "I liked the old Karina more!!"

    • @cookiesncream9158
      @cookiesncream9158 Год назад +93

      I think there was also a video about how the military had to do something ( I forgot but it had something to do with racism and a black person) because people are so sensitive nowadays, the solution being people need to stop caring so much about (insert bigoted belief) because companies are walking on eggshells now, idk I don’t remember much but it was definitely distasteful

  • @xxxi_luv_cranberry_juicexx9021
    @xxxi_luv_cranberry_juicexx9021 Год назад +958

    someone should make a video called "the dark side of sunnyv2" where he complains about sjws and cancel culture thinking people cant change followed by a clip of him using ninja's past bullying to say he's a hypocrite for speaking out against bullying

    • @phoenixRose1724
      @phoenixRose1724 Год назад +1

      reactionaries simultaneously say "you think this person is good? ha! well, look at this thing they did 5 years ago" while also saying "cancel culture has gone wild, people are using tweets from 5 years ago (that i don't even denounce) against me"
      absolutely incoherent ideology

    • @khebba6683
      @khebba6683 Год назад +198

      you forgot to specify the most important part, it has to be written and edited exactly like a sunnyv2 video

    • @michaelhaydenbell
      @michaelhaydenbell Год назад +31

      @@khebba6683 ok thanks for putting this on record so that it's not omitted from the final product.

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Год назад +26

      Someone should definitely make that, same thumbnail style and everything.

    • @amongtheliving789
      @amongtheliving789 Год назад +43

      Unfortunately though we all have to walk on eggshells for triggered anti-sjw snowflakes. So that’s one thing to at least look out for when making that video.

  • @zagreus5773
    @zagreus5773 Год назад +910

    Ninja: "Do not pick on anyone. There is nothing funny about that."
    SunnyV2: "And this is the first element of Ninjas dark side."
    Lmao

    • @Jordan_Starr
      @Jordan_Starr Год назад +94

      Someone: "Bully everyone you ever meet, especially young children."
      SunnyV2: "wow that dude has such a bright outlook on life! 🥰✌️"

    • @moxiemaxie3543
      @moxiemaxie3543 Год назад +7

      He titled it that way for views. Extreme negativity gets more clicks. Thats why titles say: The end of marvel!! The WORST SHOW/MOVIE EVER!! The Downfall of , Darkside of and Blank EXPOSED(SLO4N)😂

    • @Riftio617
      @Riftio617 Год назад

      i love taking things out of context 🤓

    • @l.2620
      @l.2620 Год назад +34

      @@Riftio617
      They didn't even make a statement, they just said "lmao." Whats the out of context here?? Lmao

    • @JustSkram
      @JustSkram Год назад +12

      @@Riftio617 You mean like how sunny doesn't show full context? Weird.

  • @jules4947
    @jules4947 Год назад +954

    SunnyV2 has always been like this. Always felt right leaning and baiting, bordering on bullying. Speculation and armchair psychology about how everyone is a boogeyman under the guise of being a "documentary". It reminds me of Moon. Watching it has always felt like brain rot, while pretending to be anything of genuine value.

    • @folddealfeal2740
      @folddealfeal2740 Год назад +68

      i watched one moon vid and quit halfway through, i could tell that boy had an unhinged quality about him

    • @danawhiteboy
      @danawhiteboy Год назад +8

      lol it’s just content to make money

    • @willroth7521
      @willroth7521 Год назад +122

      @@danawhiteboy but he’s making money by misrepresenting people in ways that could very possibly negatively affect their careers, that’s not all right

    • @xeno9671
      @xeno9671 Год назад +7

      YEAH LIKE MOON OML

    • @xeno9671
      @xeno9671 Год назад +17

      @@folddealfeal2740 hes watched fight club and never looked back.

  • @alicethetransdalek7333
    @alicethetransdalek7333 Год назад +309

    "mommy mommy, my favourite fortnite streamer isn't being as racist as i want him to be"
    "don't worry darling, i'm sure he's just faking it and deep down he's as racist as you"

  • @t_ylr
    @t_ylr Год назад +1750

    I love when someone expresses bare minimum human decency and they get criticized for being fake lmao. Ppl who think that way are either really young or terminally online 😆

    • @TheCrimsonMelody
      @TheCrimsonMelody Год назад +132

      If he expressed the opposite I bet he would have been hailed for being brave for going against political correctness.

    • @JukeboxTheGhoul
      @JukeboxTheGhoul Год назад +1

      Those people who think that are likely racist.

    • @louschwick7301
      @louschwick7301 Год назад +109

      childishly cynical, literal anime villain nonsense

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil Год назад +118

      Remember when it was "just edgy jokes?" Now it's suspicion and takedown videos if you so much as suggest that you shouldn't act like a bigot. It's pretty obvious who his videos are meant to appeal to. He's just smart enough to not put it upfront like a quartering or sargan.

    • @t_ylr
      @t_ylr Год назад +62

      @@DriscolDevil Yeah once I got to the George Floyd tweet I was like "Ohh. You're just racist" lol

  • @Ikuu
    @Ikuu Год назад +411

    Worth mentioning that in one of the clips he plays of Ninja getting mad at a kid he cut out the part where the kid called him a homophobic slur first.

  • @turner15
    @turner15 Год назад +1309

    I noticed there’s was something kind of up with SunnyV2 when he was making a video about why Shane Dawson’a return failed. When brining up how he pretended to pleasure himself to a picture of a young Willow Smith, he prefaced bringing them up by saying the Smith family was Hollywood’s biggest joke, which seemed sort of out of pocket and random when talking about how one of the family’s members were grossly sexualized.

    • @d48731
      @d48731 Год назад +283

      Wow yes, I remember that and thinking HM. No normal person has that opinion of the Smith family (normal ppl have no opinion of the Smith family)

    • @DnAwrestling1
      @DnAwrestling1 Год назад +189

      it was his unironic use of the word woke for me

    • @silloweet
      @silloweet Год назад +1

      Cry

    • @banquetoftheleviathan1404
      @banquetoftheleviathan1404 Год назад +29

      It stands out heavily once you get used to it, jfc, even the comics explained guy has a lil incel streak that some how manages to pop its head up when its not called for lol

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Год назад +73

      ​@@silloweet like you're doing all over the place?

  • @catmanboy0
    @catmanboy0 Год назад +340

    "Streamers shouldn't hide who they are to be popular but also streamers should hide their politics so they don't alienate people"

  • @Pizzaprson123
    @Pizzaprson123 Год назад +469

    This mf quoted Sneako to get his point across 💀

    • @pplelo9364
      @pplelo9364 Год назад +64

      Imagine being one of those people that consider it normal to react to any external stimuli by thinking "This reminds me of that quote from Sneako".

    • @mellow_mallow
      @mellow_mallow 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@pplelo9364 the only stimuli which should invoke Sneako are terrible ones

  • @lovesigurd6183
    @lovesigurd6183 Год назад +647

    I miss when Joel wasn't so political. When he could talk about Willy Wonka without mentioning the oompa loompas

  • @Thebdippy
    @Thebdippy Год назад +2757

    sunnyv2 tries so hard to pretend he isn't right-wing but it always comes through one way or another. It takes every fiber of his being not to use the word "libtard" in every other sentence.

    • @amongtheliving789
      @amongtheliving789 Год назад +227

      I always suspected a right wing vibe in him…

    • @Khamthegoblin
      @Khamthegoblin Год назад +15

      @@amongtheliving789 rightttt

    • @jaqf
      @jaqf Год назад +497

      i forget which video i was watching but it was pretty normal and then he just blurted out something about sjws and then kept going like nothing happened. i was like oh this guys alt right slipped out for a sec

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Год назад +513

      @@jaqfare you talking about the one where he says “it’s the same argument that idiotic feminists use about stuff like the gender pay gap”? I’m obsessed with that clip tbh, it comes out of nowhere and it has literally nothing to do with what he was talking about.

    • @roygbiv1122
      @roygbiv1122 Год назад +335

      There’s also that video about ticsandroses whose thumbnail contains their bio, which has “non-binary ~ they/them” in it. Then, when you watch the video, you shrivel in disgust as he misgenders them for 13 minutes straight. He similarly misgendered OnlyJayus in his video about them. I get that these folks are shitty, but that doesn’t make it okay to misgender them. It could’ve been an accident, and if so, I hope he’s been made aware of his mistake. But if not, it would align with the “closeted right-winger” narrative we’re constructing for him.

  • @MegaFrog
    @MegaFrog Год назад +498

    I hate that the internet has this idea that if you're a toxic person, then that's the "real you" and if you try to do something positive, it's seen as being fake. It discourages real improvement. Good people sometimes do bad things, that's not hypocrisy, that's just part of life.

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 9 месяцев назад +12

      It's incredibly narcissistic. The internet has become no less of a scary place just because it has hit the mainstream.

    • @mewxtwo
      @mewxtwo 8 месяцев назад +27

      Something I've picked up on is that the modern internet is *extremely* unforgiving. People are unwilling to accept that someone can be a good person who made a mistake. It's a very scary mentality, and it's becoming more prevalent and important than the real world.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@mewxtwo not true. So many "canceled" people aren't canceled at all. If anything, it's just free publicity

    • @mewxtwo
      @mewxtwo 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@msjkramey I'm not talking about people being able to come back from being canceled. It's not about that side of it, it's about the witch hunt that goes down. The people see a reason to hate someone and they will do it. Everyone seems to be quick to throw stones for any reason and forgiveness isn't an option for them in that moment. They attack way too easily and often, without regard for any nuance or bigger picture.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 6 месяцев назад

      @@mewxtwo do you have an example?

  • @KnowingBetter
    @KnowingBetter Год назад +756

    The more you watch SunnyV2, the more you realize he's just a clickbait channel.
    Almost all of the tweets and comments he features in his videos have likes and retweets in the single digits. He's cherrypicking things to serve the narrative he wants to portray.
    His videos on streamers and youtubers cheating in games or going to real life jail are obnoxious. He scrapes the bottom of the barrel to pick on people with 3k subs.

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 Год назад +22

      You were the last person I expected to be In here

    • @jonathankent1517
      @jonathankent1517 Год назад +92

      SunnyV2 and channels like his are basically the "new media" equivalent of tabloid magazines.

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Год назад +10

      Like when more people watch your videos and realize you are firmly on the side of American imperialism.
      That was rough...

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 Год назад +5

      @@kostajovanovic3711 evidence?

    • @mrnotimeman396
      @mrnotimeman396 Год назад +15

      Hey look everyone a Christopher Columbus apologist!!! Yay!

  • @firecatskylar
    @firecatskylar Год назад +837

    SunnyV2 honestly has the dumbest takes I've ever seen. In so many of his videos he frames changing and growing into a more mature and adult person as a moral failure, like you said. His bro vs sis vid convinced me that he really does not get that people do not want to be static the rest of their lives and changes to their personality are out of character. He said that the sister was spoiled and entitled but lmao she's like 14-16 and spent a good hunk of her childhood entertaining people? And then to get probably dozens of people a day asking her why isn't she doing stuff like she did she a kid is probably irritating and grating for someone who just wants to move the hell on with their life. It boggles my mind that people agreed with him that she's entitled and spoiled when she's just sick of people asking her to entertain them like she did when she was little and expecting her to still act like the little girl from years ago. He's a weird little slightly alt righty channel and his videos are pretty bad

    • @Khamthegoblin
      @Khamthegoblin Год назад +61

      agree with 100% of this
      sunnyv2 being this popular too is.. sososoos concerning

    • @dearleader7623
      @dearleader7623 Год назад +3

      @@Khamthegoblin Makes me think we just have a new generation of young men from 12-18 who are in this alt-right pipeline. I got out of it a few years ago after the immature and petty squabbles over the Star Wars movie from 2017 and that subculture still looks so lost and bitter today. SunnyV2 may be the archetype of a dumb kid whose mouth runs faster than reason.

    • @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
      @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Год назад +23

      Personal growth is inconsistent with preordained hierarchy. In that regard, he could be considered more internally consistent than your average rightoid.

    • @supermarx
      @supermarx Год назад

      What about it seems dumb? SunnyV2 has a political agenda to push and he's pushing it. Don't confuse evil with dumb.

    • @realRatRat
      @realRatRat Год назад

      i agree with joel about him but he's not alt right

  • @emriesq3096
    @emriesq3096 Месяц назад +19

    I'm a lawyer and teacher, I use SunnyV2 videos to show people what bad citations and biased writing looks like.

    • @chebic5095
      @chebic5095 Месяц назад +3

      Yea, as a student learning how to write academic research, something which the video essay format is trying to imitate, SunnyV2's work is absolutely non-academic trash. Its more akin to tabloids than an actual essay if I'm being honest. The point of biased and bad research has already been made, but its also worth pointing out just how little of his work is actually his. While he technically cites his sources, an overwhelming amount of his videos is just reading other peoples comments or playing other peoples videos. So little of the words spoken in the video are actually his to the point that it'd be rejected by any respectable institution for being plagiarism.
      Obviously video essays aren't academic work so they aren't necessarily held to the same academic standard, but I do think that the fact that Sunny's work may be upwards of 30% just reading other peoples ideas speaks to just how bad of a creator he is.

  • @christopherlundgren1700
    @christopherlundgren1700 Год назад +588

    I feel like I try to be a pretty chill dude, and most people in my life would say I'm a decent guy, maybe even a good guy, but if you collected enough clips of the times in my life I lost my shit or wasn't as kind to someone as I should have been, and backed it with some spooky music, you could easily make me out to be some kind of monster.

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Год назад +162

      And obviously, you opening the door for other person is "virtue signaling" because I have a clip of you kicking a door in a fit of rage once.
      Everything bad you did is the true you.
      Every attempt at kindness makes you a "phony". And you changing your mind because you got more informed is just you pretending to be good wether you realize it or not.
      At least according to SunnyV2

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi Год назад +50

      People seem to have developed this weird brain worm from listening to conservatives who are called out on strong hypocrisy that react by saying no, their political opponent is the ACTUAL hypocrite even though its always almost way less harmful or they have apologized for the action. This whole owning people because they said one thing but did another thing culture is so pathetic...literally everyone has done it as some points but context and nuance are too damn hard for people since they take time and attention.

    • @amongtheliving789
      @amongtheliving789 Год назад +10

      @@shytendeakatamanoir9740 And any/all conservatives.

    • @_Kuma_
      @_Kuma_ Год назад +4

      Absolutely - anyone can be made to look like a monster if you have enough clips of them. People aren’t always cool and that’s just a part of learning to be human. If all of my mistakes/weird behaviours as a teen were catalogued, I’d probably look like some degenerate lol

    • @LanieMae
      @LanieMae Год назад +3

      Yeah like there could be someone who was genuinely a nice person but like maybe they got really stressed/angry and said same bad shit. Like some people say when you’re angry you’ve “removed your filter” or “are showing your true colours” but like when you’re angry or stressed can’t really make cognitive thinking stuff and people are just banking off of one incident that happens to everyone and is making the person out to be a monster and like especially if it happens more than once

  • @randyohm3445
    @randyohm3445 Год назад +456

    Best part is when - during a segment where Sunny says Ninja is fake because he doesn't believe in the politics he was supporting - he plays a clip of Sneako literally saying it's better to be fake and hide your political opinions so people will like you. It's clear Sunny does not give one single shit about whether Ninja is fake. He's just mad that Ninja has political opinions he doesn't like.

    • @mileidyclass
      @mileidyclass Год назад +15

      I hope Charlie sees when he plays the Sneako clip, considering what's been going on between him and Sneako lately. Lol

  • @franklinbadge1215
    @franklinbadge1215 Год назад +251

    The thing is, Sunny's video is made for people who think bullying is cool, but who are too cowardly to just say that outright. So the only way they can criticize someone for saying "bullying is bad" is by gesturing at imagined hypocrisy, or by narrativizing it, like "he's just doing it to look good".

  • @Meladjusted
    @Meladjusted Год назад +3194

    SunnyV2 is socially conservative. Again, most of his videos, regardless of the title, are about how said personality has betrayed their fans, committed hypocrisy, or "sold out to appeal to a wider audience" by becoming more socially liberal (deciding not to be casually racist anymore, deciding not to be a dick to random people anymore, deciding they're a feminist, etc, etc).
    It's never a hypocrisy thing. It's a getting older; changing their mind thing, and he's mad people aren't staying in the playpen with him.

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil Год назад +407

      Nailed it. He thinks he is fighting a culture war and he thinks he has people fooled by not being upfront about it.
      Seems to be working for now, but you can only watch so many of his videos before you start to see the very strict pattern and just how lazy all of his content was from the start.

    • @cactus2260
      @cactus2260 Год назад +354

      The video is literally just "ninja fell off bc he doesnt support racism anymore and thinks he can be a real gamer anyway"☠️

    • @doozy5184
      @doozy5184 Год назад +266

      "Abraham lincoln, honest abe. Or so he had you believe. Last year he said he was 15, now he claims to be 16. Which is it abe?! Better keep your stories straight."

    • @atticus._
      @atticus._ Год назад +79

      @@DriscolDevil it reminds me of a channel called moon that’s like the society/ red pill /men are suffering brother to sunnyv2, their both popping off and it’s kind of sad one is just more mainstream covering popular creators everybody knows

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Год назад

      tbh it's rare that you encounter a smart/cowardly conservative so committed to the bit that they're willing to say, in effect, "If you've ever bullied someone, you should bully everyone forever", just to paint someone as a hypocrite.
      Accusations of hypocrisy should be, like, the side dish to accusations of actual wrongdoing. Like, if someone exposed Coffeezilla for running a Ponzi scheme, the hypocrisy would serve to show that there was conscious immorality at work.
      But it's very noticeable that, when a social conservative wants to attack someone for not being a social conservative, they will really talk up the supposed hypocrisy, and the actual wrongdoing will be pathetically small if not completely fictional. And it's because they know damn well that leading with "Ninja isn't racist and I hate that about him" would be pretty indefensible.

  • @LukeOnDemand
    @LukeOnDemand Год назад +697

    17 minutes of little joel, it’s a christmas miracle

  • @paulapierrot9542
    @paulapierrot9542 Год назад +509

    What made me unfollow him was the way he was talking about body positivity: Portraying Nickocado Avocado as a genius because he makes fat jokes while being overweight and comparing it to "annoying" body positivity activists who fight for acceptance. It shows what he thinks of any progressive movement: SJW = annoying, fake / anti-SJW = authentic, honest.
    In the end all he was saying was that he prefers Nickocado's content over the content of people who speak out against fat-phobia. In his worldview people who fight discrimination deserve to be made fun of because they're "annoying" but Nickocado makes fat jokes seem harmless, that's why he likes him. My biggest issue with this is that SunnyV2 makes a moral point out of this preference and completely discredits the body positivity movement along the way.
    It's a pattern you can see in many of his videos about other topics like sexism or racism.

    • @Estradiol_Gaming
      @Estradiol_Gaming Год назад +122

      Sunny is definitely just some dude who got really into anti Sjw content as a teenager and hasn’t changed at all since

    • @Dogy0909
      @Dogy0909 Год назад +7

      Nikocado is a genius and I love him but fuck sunnyv2

    • @Damian-km6sk
      @Damian-km6sk 9 месяцев назад

      @@Estradiol_Gamingwhat’s the meaning of sjw?

    • @caitlynsult2685
      @caitlynsult2685 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Damian-km6sksocial justice warriors

    • @sunbleachedangel
      @sunbleachedangel 6 месяцев назад +2

      "Fat people who want acceptance = bad and not what I want, fat people who make fun of themselves and other fat people = good and what I like to do too", not very complicated

  • @joomoo286
    @joomoo286 Год назад +2165

    the only sunnyv2 video i’ve ever seen was one he made about notch (the creator of minecraft), who got bullied off twitter after he constantly posted extremely bigoted and especially transphobic hate speech, and the conclusion sunny came to was that notch was a victim of sjw cancel culture and everyone was sooooo mean to him and how sad it was. he went on and on about how people were mean to him on the internet but curiously never showed anything notch himself tweeted

    • @Malidala
      @Malidala Год назад +1

      Notch is an actual nazi, like the white nationalist anti-semite kind... Like that isn't the case of some misguided attack... Seems to be a bit of a pattern to SunnyV2's behaviour.

    • @achehex
      @achehex Год назад

      It's so transparent. If you talk about your leftist politics you are a phony, that is faking it and also alienating half of your fanbase, but if you are an outright transphobe like Notch, you are just being honest, and the world is out to get you for having ""innocent"" political views.

    • @longliverocknroll5
      @longliverocknroll5 Год назад +387

      The comments on that video are great. "I guess he learned money isn't everything"....like, I guess, but also, being a bigot also tends to push decent people in your life away from you.

    • @Robbay363
      @Robbay363 Год назад +449

      For a long time I legitimately felt insane because it was immediately obvious to me that he was a reactionary dipshit yet so many normie youtubers I used to like continue to speak highly of his content. It forced me to think about whether those people are also reactionaries or if they just don't have the media literacy to sniff that stuff out.

    • @enotsnavdier6867
      @enotsnavdier6867 Год назад +187

      He also tweeted pro Qanon shit as well

  • @drummerofawe
    @drummerofawe Год назад +450

    The line 'as Sneako said best' is too fucking good lmao

  • @Crosroad
    @Crosroad Год назад +137

    The way he brings up a sneako quote as if he's like an expert in the field is insane.

  • @welpppppppppppppp
    @welpppppppppppppp Год назад +174

    honestly that guys brand of “commentary” is part of a branch of youtube i think in general is very bad faith, more focused on “drama” and petty feuds. they have like weird centrist brainworms vibes and are always eating their own tails

    • @notrod5341
      @notrod5341 Год назад +77

      Also they have this strange hatred of "tea channels" despite literally just being tea channels for annoying teenage boys.

    • @tomisaacson2762
      @tomisaacson2762 Год назад +38

      "weird centrist brainworms" is the best description I've ever heard of SunnyV2 and his brand of commentary

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад +11

      He's not a centrist, he's just a reactionary lol

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 Год назад +3

      It's the gamer side of creator commentary channels, and they more often than not suck

    • @philipsalama8083
      @philipsalama8083 Год назад

      @@notrod5341 What's a tea channel?

  • @walkerofthewaste3440
    @walkerofthewaste3440 Год назад +192

    The true mark of a man is not how he treats his friends, but how he treats the lowliest fortnite player.

    • @alwaystired1
      @alwaystired1 Год назад +43

      I think Plato said that

    • @bugguyonline
      @bugguyonline Год назад +10

      @@alwaystired1 studied historical philosophy, and ur right

    • @Montasir125
      @Montasir125 Год назад +5

      @@alwaystired1 what was Plato's kdr?

    • @plexyglass429
      @plexyglass429 Год назад +4

      @@Montasir125 at least 1

  • @Kyle-su2wq
    @Kyle-su2wq Год назад +164

    The thing with sunny is that his videos seem like and presents itself as a video essay or deep dive but then you think about it and it’s really more like a rant that feels like it should have some csgo knife flipping in the background.

    • @lucymcelhone4332
      @lucymcelhone4332 Год назад +9

      HAHA THE KNIFE FLIPPING, SO TRUE

    • @GyroMan5136
      @GyroMan5136 Год назад +3

      LMAO

    • @beatblocksgaming
      @beatblocksgaming 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can just imagine those like csgo parkour maps with sunny making petty insults at random people like the old days

  • @gb4770
    @gb4770 Год назад +262

    Lil joel looks sick today. Not in an unhealthy way like Ninja, no, but in a "that sweater looks sick!" kinda way

    • @billieeisenhower406
      @billieeisenhower406 Год назад +17

      I'd say he looks really really small but then I realized it was the distance of the camera haha 😳 (embarrassed)

    • @fedeberge
      @fedeberge Год назад +12

      Is the sweater going to be ok

    • @SanguineThor
      @SanguineThor Год назад +2

      😎 sick af

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Год назад +10

      "The Dark Side of Little Joel."
      He secretly mistreat his sweaters

    • @markdash12
      @markdash12 Год назад +4

      I think his sweater is on some sort of substance, and that substance is holiday cheer

  • @havel335
    @havel335 Год назад +279

    Sunny's videos really feel like when a teacher would give you a prompt for an essay you didn't agree with and had to stretch the truth so much

    • @da45r
      @da45r Год назад

      He really tries to stretch out drama to get that sweet sweet monetization with very contrasted images of the culprit in question being disheveled or worn down with a big title name saying "EXPOSED" to get a view to click on it. He tries to hide how he wants to expose the persons already old drama that has been already discussed and closed with an essay format on how he wants to not cancel the person while also antagonizing the person. He's overall very scummy

    • @theaveragecomment1014
      @theaveragecomment1014 Год назад +30

      Me when my teacher put me on the side AGAINST wind turbines. I was very confused as to what I was supposed to do, I was like 12.

    • @laylanop1346
      @laylanop1346 Год назад +4

      exactly!!!!

  • @FatrickAteman
    @FatrickAteman Год назад +258

    Saying someone is doing drugs because they're skinny and look schlubby reveals how unbiased and impartial SunnyV2 really is.

  • @SBJ_Tube
    @SBJ_Tube Год назад +385

    SunnyV2 is one of those people who have skipped past the "mask off" phase by never masking his very nasty preferences to begin with. He gets VERY MAD that Ninja sometimes says decent things to his large, young audience and also says he loves a different streamer who frequently bullies his opponents and throws tantrums. Gee, I sure care about the opinions of this weirdly hateful dude!

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Год назад +10

      I mean I like watching compilations of streamers raging at games and smashing their keyboards, but I don’t think every streamer should do it just because it’s entertaining

    • @sailorsloth8183
      @sailorsloth8183 Год назад +29

      And unironically quoting Sneako. Not only is that a huge red flag, it’s also hypocritical (y’know, the very thing Sunny is accusing Ninja of being) because Sneako has also driven off a non-insignificant portion of his old audience with his trip down the redpill rabbit hole and attempts to be Andrew Tate Jr.

    • @michaelk9279
      @michaelk9279 Год назад +17

      @@sailorsloth8183 You see, faking a personality for audience appeal is good when it's for people who are based and redpilled like me

  • @aaronlutes2126
    @aaronlutes2126 Год назад +873

    The deep emptiness at the core of people who hate "virtue signaling" is so upsetting. "This person is being not racist and not shitty, therefor he must be lying"

    • @pyramidschema8668
      @pyramidschema8668 Год назад

      Everyone is secretly a racist and an asshole, right?
      It's not just me, right?

    • @daltonbedore8396
      @daltonbedore8396 Год назад +29

      succinct comment. ive been writing replies saying the same thing but with more words

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi Год назад +107

      It reminds me of the cynical people on reddit who end up on r/nothingeverhappens because they are so poisoned by self doubt they assume everyone else is as disingenuous as them and therefore always lying. Its like no...sometimes people hold beliefs *because they actually believe them*

    • @aaronlutes2126
      @aaronlutes2126 Год назад +14

      @@daltonbedore8396 You didn't see the drafts ;)

    • @BlisaBLisa
      @BlisaBLisa Год назад

      and thing is "virtue signalling" does exist, but its almost never the case when someone is accused of it. brands on twitter making empty progressive statements to market themselves while committing countless human rights violations on a huge scale is virtue signaling, they are being intentionally deceptive by using progressive language to promote their own brand and try to cover up whatever evil things theyve done. some guy on the internet expressing leftist beliefs isnt virtue signaling.

  • @zzombiedogg
    @zzombiedogg Год назад +183

    its funny because hes the type of guy to justify someone being racist years ago with “people can change:/“
    unless its someone he doesnt like. then theyre a hypocritical attention-seeker

  • @TheArbiter10
    @TheArbiter10 Год назад +736

    I forgot SunnyV2 existed because I clicked the "Don't recommend channel" on his channel a couple years ago. He struck me as basically just Australian Keemstar-- just a mean-spirited drama fiend. The sad thing is that he's actually a lot more tactful than he used to be-- if you watch his earliest videos (if he hasn't privated them) he's a lot more mask-off with how much he enjoys smearing other public figures. IDK what his problem is.

    • @headfirst1593
      @headfirst1593 Год назад

      EXACTLY i found him before on a random reaction channel and after watching a few of his videos he started to give off k33mst4r vibes and i started avoiding his channel. good thing i sensed it from afar because god he's awful

    • @EscargotGaming
      @EscargotGaming Год назад +56

      bruh, same here. When i saw this video title, i thought, “huh, why does SunnyV2 sound so familiar…”

    • @Dis_Dis
      @Dis_Dis Год назад +1

      Terminally online. That's what his problem is.

    • @j_jizzle_69
      @j_jizzle_69 9 месяцев назад +6

      I didn’t know the “don’t recommend channel feature” works I’ve doing that multiple times to different channels and it still shoves that bullshit in my face

    • @slowyourroll1146
      @slowyourroll1146 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@j_jizzle_69 don't bother engaging with content you dislike whenever you see it, whether it's disliking vids or asking RUclips not to recommend the channel. It's getting painfully obvious that interactions fueled by outrage and dislike are still considered interactions to RUclips at the end of the day

  • @shadowstar1286
    @shadowstar1286 Год назад +207

    little joel is beating the shit out of sunnyv2 in this video. i wonder if sunny will be incited to make a "dark side of little joel" video in response

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Год назад +44

      I would love to see him try that.
      It would be so bad.
      Joel's response would probably be great.

  • @fynntasticmovienight
    @fynntasticmovienight Год назад +113

    AGED LIKE FINE WINE

    • @goldenboy3154
      @goldenboy3154 Год назад +13

      Yeah… I’m surprised some of his videos haven’t been called out before.

  • @riccardomazzaro1901
    @riccardomazzaro1901 Год назад +507

    The most confusing part in the whole video happens when SunnyV2 claims Ninja is a fake and a phony and he doesn't even know it. Like, the idea behind the whole video is that Ninja is knowingly being deceptive, knowingly trying to portray himself as someone who he isn't. But if he doesn't even know about it, how is that deceptive? Is he claiming that he knows what's best for him, the true essence of his soul and Ninja's just lying to himself? It kinda reminds me of Jordan Peterson claiming that that magazine having a fat lady on its front page was tricking people into liking fat women and somehow that's a deceptive process. It feels like JP and SunnyV2 are making the same mistake of watching people doing something and when faced with the fact that they are willingly acting in a way they don't like, they just kinda assume that they are somehow part of a deceptive process, basically lying to themselves. I think this reveals a very essentialistic view of the people on JP side and of Ninja on SunnV2's: they see the subject they're analysing as essentially something they can't change about themselves and when the facts collide with that vision, they can't accept it.

    • @cuckoophendula8211
      @cuckoophendula8211 Год назад +23

      I'm marking this since I feel like I'd need to let this stew in my mind with more than one sitting.

    • @BlueBeetle1939
      @BlueBeetle1939 Год назад +5

      @@cuckoophendula8211 replying so you have a little notification as a reminder

    • @cuckoophendula8211
      @cuckoophendula8211 Год назад +6

      @@BlueBeetle1939 Much obliged

    • @hell0mega
      @hell0mega Год назад +32

      AMAZING point. there's a whole thesis in there somewhere. it's making me realize how common it is, no matter who a person is, to assume other people are faking or lying when it doesn't align with what they believe... damn. how entitled is that. it reminds me of in middle school when you start to like something new and the other kids assume you're just doing it to be cool or whatever

    • @nickk.2055
      @nickk.2055 Год назад

      @@hell0mega To expand on this whole faking/lying about opinions a bit, IMO (not that my opinion really matters on this, I'm just some bro on the internet) reactionaries don't really like thinking that shedding conservative/bigoted beliefs is genuine positive growth.
      There's definitely at least *some* moral imperative to not believe anyone adopting progressive beliefs and only regard them as clout chasers, not because of what it says about the person who changed, but because of what it says about the reactionaries who *haven't* yet changed. When they see someone genuinely change and get positive attention and praise for it, they have to think it's fake cynical bullshit, because if they don't, the next logical thought could be "Wait, If so many people like it and think that stopping being a conservative dickhead is good and makes you become a decent human, shouldn't I change too?"

  • @thebaseandtriflingcreature174
    @thebaseandtriflingcreature174 Год назад +303

    Joel actually looks little in the video. This is genius cinematography.

    • @ochuspin
      @ochuspin Год назад +13

      This is my first video and I was wondering whether that was on purpose or not

  • @BackflipBucky
    @BackflipBucky Год назад +478

    If only Little Joel knew what was going to happen a couple months later...

    • @burgermind802
      @burgermind802 Год назад +137

      Medium Joel knew

    • @norikofu509
      @norikofu509 Год назад +97

      @@burgermind802 Medium Joel died for our sins

    • @dp7552
      @dp7552 Год назад +13

      what happened?

    • @eminempreg
      @eminempreg Год назад +127

      ​@@dp7552SunnyV made a very transphobic video about one of Mr.Beasts friend claiming she'd be the downfall of his channel because she was/is transitioning.

    • @Ragesturbation
      @Ragesturbation 8 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@eminempreg Isn't Kris pronouns she/her? Or am I taking it in the wrong context.

  • @boateye
    @boateye Год назад +206

    This little Joel is surprisingly...big

  • @lobster7514
    @lobster7514 Год назад +568

    honestly the level of projection sunny is doing is embarassing. If ninja had become a trump supporter no one would call him out for being fake bc he wasnt racist in the past, theyre just salty to see someone so big from that side of the gaming community not be a bigot and openly denouncing it

    • @gb4770
      @gb4770 Год назад +87

      "If he changed, maybe I should too" is a scary thought

    • @bijou4104
      @bijou4104 Год назад +36

      it’s like when jerma was vocal about transphobic chat comments, and bigoted fans went into crybaby mode. saw someone say “he has way more comedic potential if he stops catering to [insert transphobic slur here]”

    • @lobster7514
      @lobster7514 Год назад +18

      @@bijou4104 wow that's terrible. Fortunately jermas main demographic is definitely not gonna agree with that

    • @10thletter40
      @10thletter40 Год назад

      Personally I'm transphobic, that doesn't mean you should be rude to others

    • @lobster7514
      @lobster7514 Год назад +10

      @@10thletter40 WHAT??

  • @soomise
    @soomise Год назад +180

    my fav sunnyv2 moment was when in his sis vs bro video he painted the girl (karina) as a bad person going down a bad route because she disliked the videos of her past and publically declared that. oh and that she was doing regularly teenage things. he DIDNT say these about the boy (ronald) despite him being openly misogynistic & showcasing harmful views. despite that he still painted karina in a bad manner as if their entire youtube career wasn’t essentially their parents exploiting them

    • @soomise
      @soomise Год назад +3

      as if karina & ronald yt career *

    • @goldenboy3154
      @goldenboy3154 Год назад +38

      It’s almost like he’s a bigot

  • @Pisslizard
    @Pisslizard Год назад +365

    the inescapable thing for me here, is that Sunny makes a really big deal about how Ninja virtue signals for his audience, so he stays popular or whatever. but also, how Ninja's audience hates his virtue signalling. Both of these things can't be true at the same time. It leaves me with the idea the Ninja might actually be a dude with some level of integrity. Which is funny, because that is exactly the opposite of what SunnyV2 wants

    • @daibar
      @daibar Год назад +52

      It's really annoying that SunnyV2 seems to constantly virtue signal about how anti-woke he is.

  • @дигл_лайв
    @дигл_лайв Год назад +184

    I once watched a video from SunnyV2 channel and was pretty confused. It felt like there was 1-2 minutes of information thinly spread over 15 minutes with constant repetitions. And the video had like 1 million views. And I just thought that maybe I didn't get something. Maybe that video had some incredible value that I just couldn't understand. Since then I keep getting a feeling that I might've understood all the value in that video after all...

    • @hauntedsunsets
      @hauntedsunsets Год назад +37

      honestly I had a really similar experience where the first SunnyV2 video I ever watched was the one about fake videos about building these crazy mud houses by hand, which seems to be one of the few if not good but watchable videos from him. it's the kind of catharsis of watching a fake youtube channel get eXpOsEd which is fun to watch and easy to digest. it made me think this must be a Good RUclips Channel so I wanted to see more
      but then it just... well it was exactly what you described. I was getting a whole lot of repetitive info and judgemental moral takes and not a lot of that genuine information I thought I'd see more of. I was so confused at how what I thought was another good video essay channel actually just had one random video hook me in and otherwise had a whole lot of nothing that I wanted to see

    • @-tera-3345
      @-tera-3345 Год назад +12

      @@hauntedsunsets Oh my god, I watched a video about how all those "primitive build" videos were fake a while back, too! Did I watch a SunnyV2 video at some point without realizing it? I genuinely don't remember what video it was.

    • @emma48586
      @emma48586 Год назад +8

      I had a similar experience. Watched a couple videos all the way through and I was just kinda like... I gained nothing from this

    • @echoweil
      @echoweil Год назад +8

      the only videos I've seen of him were like 90% reading through joke comments next to explaining something in a serious tone, i couldn't believe people would willingly watch this stuff

    • @scribblemyface
      @scribblemyface Год назад +19

      No one is actually watching these rise and fall of youtuber "documentaries" and paying attention. They put them on as background noise and do other things. The length, well spoken narrator, and production value suggests high quality content but it's not. RUclips junk food mindlessly consumed

  • @gracie1785
    @gracie1785 Год назад +268

    Idk why, but he’s always reminded me of Creepshow Art. The invention of drama and the way he presents evidence has always linked them for me.

    • @felixt808
      @felixt808 Год назад

      not creepshow art 💀 i forgot she even exists, that creepy little bugger

    • @I_love_dr_stone
      @I_love_dr_stone Год назад +76

      deyassified creepshow

    • @icejuice4212
      @icejuice4212 Год назад +42

      I don’t ship irl people, but this is my new OTP 🥰🥰🥰

    • @salsasalsa943
      @salsasalsa943 Год назад +1

      this one!! definitely

    • @jimjimson6208
      @jimjimson6208 Год назад +2

      @@icejuice4212 lmao I can't bro

  • @BATCHARRO
    @BATCHARRO Год назад +305

    I think people confuse changing opinions with moral inconsistency with "I was 15 now I'm 23" all the time on the internet. Like... let's say Neenja was a huge racist when he started streaming at 13 or whatever, and now he's older and he has come to see things differently. Not in a big wham moment just small moments of growth like we all have. Is he supposed to just keep being that way and never grow, just because everybody "knows" the "real" "authentic" him is the him they grew up with? That just seems insane.

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO Год назад +8

      Oh THAAT Ninja. And I wrote it all wrong here.

    • @sable4539
      @sable4539 Год назад +1

      @@BATCHARRO delete the comment

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO Год назад +2

      @@sable4539 I can edit it. Wouldn't be very honest though. And people would see the follow up and be like "what's he talking about he wroted it good".

    • @sable4539
      @sable4539 Год назад +1

      @@BATCHARRO It's better than making an irrelevant comment

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO Год назад +6

      @@sable4539 Is it better? I think people would miss the comment and ask me why I deleted, and what am I supposed to say? That I wasn't quite sure which Ninja we where talking about when making my broad point about how people have unreasonable expectations of you on the internet? To be perfectly honest I don't know barely anything about Ninja, the one with Blue Hair who streams videogames not the South African rapper. My comment is just as good if I had known, I feel.

  • @dylanpennington1378
    @dylanpennington1378 Год назад +214

    This is a perfect example about how the endless obsession with perceived hypocrisy is literally the most intense waste of time ever because it's an entirely subjective thing - no one ever views themselves as a hypocrite and the allegations are often a stretch. I just hate how people constantly obsess over meaningless things

    • @michaelwebster-clark9865
      @michaelwebster-clark9865 Год назад +6

      Norm Macdonald's bit about hypocrisy is evergreen

    • @gillfreddie4100
      @gillfreddie4100 Год назад

      While you certainly have a point about "obsession", you act like accusations of hypocrisy are a weightless concept. But if you have the slightest understanding, you will know that hypocrisy is a moral failing, and if you care about morality at all, then you will understand why hypocrisy is wrong, thus being far from meaningless.

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 Год назад +18

      Also note that even an unambiguously hypocritical statement can still be correct

    • @bleu2680
      @bleu2680 Год назад +14

      @@gillfreddie4100 what? Did you read the comment? There's no point in talking about "moral failings" without context. Nobody is defending hypocrisy, so what's your point?

    • @sailorsloth8183
      @sailorsloth8183 Год назад +14

      Sunny’s Amy Schumer video is an even better example of this. He dedicates much of the video to what a hypocrite Amy has been over the years, yet never mentions the fact Amy has bragged about SAing a drunk man.

  • @Saphiera270
    @Saphiera270 Год назад +107

    the FORESHADOWING OF THIS!! given the type of video Sunny just uploaded, this was only the beginning of his unhinged videos

  • @atleyf3500
    @atleyf3500 Год назад +96

    "Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing" - Dalinar Kholin.

    • @gillfreddie4100
      @gillfreddie4100 Год назад

      If youve changed to a point where you hate your past self, then you are a hypocrite. Because you are guilty of what you criticize.
      Also I love how leftists talk like they enjoy forgiveness. That's very funny.

  • @silverdrag0n_
    @silverdrag0n_ Год назад +1000

    sunny always rubbed me the wrong way since the "fake disorder cringe" video where he consistently misgender one of the people he's calling out. he even put their pronouns in the thumbnail yet couldn't be bothered using em, which indicates to me that he only did that because it would get transphobes and transmeds to click on the video that makes fun of a nonbinary person
    [update 15/4 2023]
    WELL WELL WELL. WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT. i've always wanted to say this, but *I TOLD YOU SO*

    • @braydon7589
      @braydon7589 Год назад +153

      i was always worried to call his misgendering out because I didn’t wanna get called some “SJW” or something. But that was first thing that really turned me away from sunny.

    • @starchaser777
      @starchaser777 Год назад +111

      oh wow. i'm not surprised nor dissapointed, just disgusted, really. i mean, not like i expected this clearly "anti-woke" guy to respect someone who isn't on his way of thinking.

    • @pissefemme
      @pissefemme Год назад +59

      I made a comment about that when the video dropped and it got deleted, lol

    • @vilestdan
      @vilestdan Год назад +21

      i've wondered for some time now why i didn't like this guy and this reminded me lmao thank you

    • @dianaburyk4816
      @dianaburyk4816 Год назад +65

      Sunny always reminded me of those anti woke channels that whine about lgbtq people and women getting more representation in media (like the quartering) and I never really knew why. I haven't seen the video you mentioned but its devastating to hear

  • @maciejglinski6564
    @maciejglinski6564 Год назад +657

    when i was 15 i was a piece of shit, and i had done so much fucking work to become a better person. I think i am better now. It's so heartbreaking when people from my past are expecting me to behave that way, or still treat me like i was the person i was 10 years ago i just can't. It's one of the most deppressing things and im watching just feeling those feelings through the whole runtime. It's awful, let people change and grow. Let them apologise. Let them grow.

    • @clubafterlife
      @clubafterlife Год назад +103

      sorry dude but no one is under any obligation to accept your apology. it sucks, but that's what consequences are. you did the work because it was the right thing to do (hopefully), and not just to feel less guilty for hurting people

    • @graquinn4058
      @graquinn4058 Год назад +70

      i know im just a stranger but, i'm proud of you and i'm glad you've grown, it takes so much fucking integrity and hard work to not only accept you're wrong, but to do your best to examine why and improve. like, that takes so much guts. much more than people realize. you're awesome

    • @clubafterlife
      @clubafterlife Год назад +40

      @@graquinn4058 I don't know if you or youtube deleted your comment, but no, I don't think that. I have been both people: the bullied (I have CPTSD) and the person who hurt people as a stupid teen, grown immensely, and still not had my apology forgiven. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt which is worse. What I said actually came from a place of empathy; you can't spend time feeling bad because some people won't accept your growth. Partly because it's just not meant to be with those people, and partly because when I think about it from the people who traumatised me, I literally couldn't give less of a f*ck about their growth. Are they probably better people 15 years on? Sure. Do I want to trigger myself by interacting with them? No. Understanding that is PART OF true growth and integrity.

    • @Jack-sq6xb
      @Jack-sq6xb Год назад +29

      @@clubafterlife this is something a lot of people say just to be an asshole and never let people change, I've been bullied too but people can grow and change

    • @clubafterlife
      @clubafterlife Год назад +17

      @@Jack-sq6xb Literally show me where I said they couldn't change? No one can 'let' you grow and change, mate - or stop you. You have domain over that. It shouldn't hinge on whether or not every single human you've ever met will accept and forgive you. Am I an asshole or are you not really reading my comment ?

  • @aislynnmari
    @aislynnmari Год назад +605

    Why am I riveted by little Joel reacting to some guy I never heard of making up head canon/fanfic about another guy I never heard of

    • @BushidoMauve
      @BushidoMauve Год назад +62

      It's the passion and the beard that's doing it for me

    • @Bleilock1
      @Bleilock1 Год назад +14

      How did you manage not to hear of them?

    • @imsotiredofthiscrap2341
      @imsotiredofthiscrap2341 Год назад +6

      @@Bleilock1 i also never heard of sunny before big joel mentioned him in a past video and i honestly don’t know

    • @BushidoMauve
      @BushidoMauve Год назад +2

      @@Bleilock1 now that i think of it. He's only popup randomly in my recommended. I wouldn't have know of him otherwise

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi Год назад

      Lucky. I can't get the bastard to stop showing up in my feed and have no idea what youtube thinks I watched to assume I would like him.

  • @imtoddhowardandimadeskyrim6553
    @imtoddhowardandimadeskyrim6553 Год назад +110

    That moment when your anti-political correctness turns into pro-racism

    • @dengar96
      @dengar96 4 месяца назад +1

      Those are the same thing lmao

  • @JakAttack12345
    @JakAttack12345 Год назад +114

    I've found myself hating "the dark side of whatever" videos more and more as time goes on. I remember some random recommended video I got about how primitive technology-esque videos are faked and I just found myself going "okay, but... why should I care? Why do *you* care?"
    Plus the fact this sunnyv2 feller sees someone going "racism is bad" and immediately thinks virtue signaling is... telling.
    EDIT: So that primitive technology video was actually from SV2. Small world.

    • @cuddlecakes7153
      @cuddlecakes7153 Год назад +31

      The primitive technology videos being fake is actually a bad thing because they portray them as being real feats they actually did. It's literally fake information. It's like when Dream does his manhunts and pretends that all the stuff he's doing isn't scripted and fake. It's harmful to pretend something is real when it's actually fake.
      Other then that tho I agree with your take

    • @redgarlicbred6228
      @redgarlicbred6228 Год назад +14

      Saw that, but if it is fake and they used heavy machinery to pull it off, then its highly damaging to the environment, especially if its at a reserve. Bc you can't just plop a backhoe down on the forest floor with a copter(at least not a commercial one), you have to tear down dozens if not hundreds of trees to get it there.
      So yeah, in the context of these fake primitive videos, you should care, but for anything else? Like a youtuber lying? don't have to give an ounce of shit... Unless they stole money from u directly or smth

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 Год назад

      @@cuddlecakes7153 where's the evidence dream "scripts" the manhunts?

  • @dandelion1908
    @dandelion1908 Год назад +93

    I love the camera placement of this video, it makes Little Joel look realistically little on your phone screen

  • @starchaser777
    @starchaser777 Год назад +43

    "because, as sneako said best..." ok i already know everything i needed to know about sunnyv2

  • @fezman222
    @fezman222 Год назад +135

    "All I know from Ninja is that he made a few incredible tweets about how video gaming is harder than kicking footballs and I've admired him ever since" is a wonderful line, thank you.

    • @maad1670
      @maad1670 Год назад +9

      and the braless wife one, how can Joel forget that smh

    • @DagarMan0
      @DagarMan0 Год назад

      @@maad1670 that one is the goat, but you probably don't see it before the gaming video

  • @P-YT-CH
    @P-YT-CH Год назад +460

    Hey, you’re pretty good at these kinda longer videos, you should totally start another channel where you just upload long-form video essays!
    Maybe call it mediumjoel?

    • @agentstache135
      @agentstache135 Год назад +102

      mediumjoel is already his channel where he talks to ghosts tho

    • @ozkey1558
      @ozkey1558 Год назад +14

      @@agentstache135 I need this to be true! 😂👻

    • @toymangamer121
      @toymangamer121 Год назад +3

      Naaahhh, that would never work

    • @Chimponaut
      @Chimponaut Год назад +7

      Large Joel

    • @BrentWalker999
      @BrentWalker999 Год назад

      Joel is the key to all of this, if we can get him to work.
      Cause he is a funnier character than we ever had before.

  • @hrodvithit
    @hrodvithit Год назад +89

    Really highlighting the issue that you can pretty much release any propaganda on YT served up in a deep dive documentary style format, and actually manipulate people.

    • @joelman1989
      @joelman1989 Год назад +34

      Bonus points if you have an Australian or British accent

    • @GyroMan5136
      @GyroMan5136 Год назад +1

      have come close to falling into that trap myself a couple times, oof

  • @littlemoth4956
    @littlemoth4956 9 месяцев назад +53

    SunnyV2 scares me not because of his content, but because of his audience. He is taking advantage of a trend that has always existed. The fact of the matter is, a lot of people completely lack the ability to question their surroundings, think critically, or analyze events and states around them. These people are incredibly vulnerable to the likes of Sunny, who can just say whatever he wants without actually supporting it.
    Notice how he showed two different clips of Ninja speaking, one of him denouncing bad play and the other of him denouncing bullying. These are not in contradiction whatsoever, and yet just because SunnyV2 says that the first clip is genuine and the second isn't, he is able to completely brainwash an entire audience into believing it, because they don't have the mental faculties to question what about these clips actually supports what Sunny is saying.

    • @ettaetta439
      @ettaetta439 8 месяцев назад +10

      I also hold a lot of anger towards Penguinz0 and other "apolitical" RUclipsrs who have given him such a huge audience. SunnyV2 is blatantly right wing but it's hard for privileged white men like Penguinz0 to see it, because they desperately want to stay middle of the road between outright racism and anti racism. There is no "middle of the road" that ends up being non harmful to oppressed groups though, and everything in between the two fields is only ever helpful to those doing the oppressing.

  • @WinterReflections
    @WinterReflections Год назад +424

    SunnyV2 is another example of the fact that literally anyone can succeed on RUclips if they achieve basic competency at editing and have a USB microphone. Plus, the blind confidence to boldly state your opinion on any topic with no second guessing ever. Really, you don't even need to edit, or write a script, or plan, or have a basic understanding of what you touch on. This is why I've been accumulating the gear I need to try my hand at it and learning editing and production... If guys like Sunny and SomeOrdinaryGamers managed it despite very little skill or merit, why don't I try?

    • @greenpinapple820
      @greenpinapple820 Год назад +61

      SOG started by reading creepy pasta so... you know where to start.

    • @SPVLaboratories
      @SPVLaboratories Год назад +9

      What did muta do

    • @WinterReflections
      @WinterReflections Год назад +89

      @@SPVLaboratories Nothing necessarily, he just makes strikingly low-effort videos in my opinion. And more importantly, I feel he talks about contentious or important topics without giving them anywhere near the amount of thought, research, or seriousness they should be given. A lot of it is just casual spreading of bad opinions with no consideration given and almost no work put into the production either. Everything about his videos is so lacking to me. I'd find him a lot more tolerable if he at least felt more responsibility for the accuracy or impact of things he says when it comes to serious scandals, or political issues and current events. Tbf, the "little Joel" channel is also in the "low effort s**tpost" realm of videos, but I trust that he puts thought into what he says because of the Big Joel channel lol.

    • @caramelllllllll
      @caramelllllllll Год назад +35

      @@WinterReflections fair enough, however i find SOGs content enjoyable enough on the PC side of things, exploring operating systems and what not. Other than that, i find his content rather winding and increasingly low-effort over the years.

    • @LeoScott
      @LeoScott Год назад

      @@SPVLaboratories He always seems to come at things like the kiwi farms debacle with a frustratingly centrist mindset. I believe he equated people doxxing cloudflare customers to get cloudflare to take down kiwi farms to kiwifarms bullying multiple trans people into taking their life. Sort of a "both groups committed wrongs so neither of them are morally right" mindset.

  • @TheCrimsonMelody
    @TheCrimsonMelody Год назад +102

    This reminds me of the first time Taylor Swift got political and there were those same people arguing that famous people should stay out of politics because they weren’t their politics. Thats just what happens when your position isn’t popular.
    Speaking against racism has become far more controversial than saying something racist.

    • @daibar
      @daibar Год назад +4

      It happens even if your position is popular/reasonable. Those against it tend to be extremely vitriolic.

  • @cutealiens
    @cutealiens Год назад +92

    Holy shit this sunnyv2 video is actually genuinely unhinged, can't believe this Little Joel lived up to its title

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад +1

      You love slash hate to see it!

  • @Jorgec224
    @Jorgec224 Год назад +62

    SunnyV2 videos feel like teenage me bullshitting an essay's arguments and sources for a high school assignment due in 1 hour

  • @luizvictor1417
    @luizvictor1417 Год назад +66

    is incredible how 90% of his videos is seeking youtube comments to back up his opponions.

  • @lilstevechan8427
    @lilstevechan8427 10 месяцев назад +173

    Sunnyv2 probably misses the 'golden days' of Twitch streamers dropping casual N-bombs and telling people to kill themselves.

  • @bblloooomm
    @bblloooomm 4 месяца назад +12

    SunnyV2 is the CinemaSins of commentary channels

    • @Gouda992
      @Gouda992 4 месяца назад +6

      He’s not the cinema sins of commentary, he’s the cinema sins of video essay channels

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Gouda992he doesn't make video essays tho, he makes vague drama videos that clout chase, he's a content farm.

  • @Theresa-uj4le
    @Theresa-uj4le Год назад +117

    Poor guy doesn’t realise that people change with time. That’s actually kinda tragic

  • @bella_ciao4608
    @bella_ciao4608 Год назад +1325

    Sunny's popularity is really concerning to me, people like Critikal have given him a platform without realizing how reactionary he is, and I'm really worried that very apolitical/vaguely left leaning youtubers could be suckered into a lot of reactionary talking points and shift youtuber fanbases in a really bad direction. I just don't want people like sunny to cause a spike in right wing bullshit online. As a trans person, I am really worried about a second Gamergate

    • @jf3nr
      @jf3nr Год назад +67

      spittin fax out here

    • @gayghostprince
      @gayghostprince Год назад +216

      i have NO idea who this youtuber is but it's embarrassing to think that some people are taking him as like... an intelligent and unbiased opinion source? this video alone has a ton of red flags. he straight up played a sneako clip... I'm not a critikal fan but platforming this guy? ew.,

    • @marcmothersole8265
      @marcmothersole8265 Год назад +3

      What acc was gamergate

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty Год назад

      ​@@marcmothersole8265 I do not know what "acc" is short for but gamergate was when a bunch of white game dudes and grifters like Sargon of Akkad turned a legit demand for publishers to stop witholding advance press review copies to journalists that don't give them good scores into slandering a female game dev of "sleeping with journalists for good reviews" and dogpiling one of the OneShot devs to suicide.

    • @somkeshav4143
      @somkeshav4143 Год назад +92

      @@marcmothersole8265 Gamergate was a huge reactionary pushback against people like journalists who criticized aspects of gaming like Anita Sarkeesian. Many people interpreted these criticisms as an attack on gaming in general and it became a huge thing back in the mid 2010s.

  • @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405
    @yourhighschoolenglishteach8405 2 месяца назад +11

    ninja: “black ppl don’t deserve to be murdered”
    sunnyv2: “broe… you changed…”

  • @FunctionallyLiteratePerson
    @FunctionallyLiteratePerson Год назад +54

    SunnyV2 pisses me off so much. Ah yes, nobody should grow and everyone who isn't the same as they used to be is trying to avoid cancel culture or whatever. Like hello???

  • @josephcates1238
    @josephcates1238 Год назад +44

    next sunny v2 video: "Big Joel claims to be a good guy but have you seen this video of him forcing his pets into a battle to the death for his own sick amusement"

    • @Wince_Media
      @Wince_Media Год назад +5

      Little Joel SAYS he's a good person BUT in one of his videos he forgot THE OOMPA LOOMPAS