2Pac and I Fought Over His Friendship with Haitian Jack. After I Confronted Him In Front Of 2Pac.
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- William Lesane (Tupac's cousin) explains to The Art Of Dialogue contributor Delray Richardson about the altercation he had with Tupac over Haitian Jack.
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That shouldve been in the biopic.. they droped the ball on that movie BIG TIME.. 2PAC needs a series like WU-TANG.
He does already it's called Moonlight
@@fakethuglife and i seen your audtion tape for it jalen. You did good in the broke-back prison love scene 😆🤣🎯 🎯 🎯
@@fakethuglifevery funny troll 🧌
@@truthhurtz7746 Jalen got yall 2Pac groupies shook.
@@truthhurtz7746😂😂😂got ‘em!!
I love how in every story where Jack is mentioned he is that menacing shady dude that everyone tells Pac not to chill with because he's dangerous and in the streets for real.
Who u think was more dangerous HAITIAN JACK OR SUGE??? 🤔 Like I wonder if once SUGE was in the mix did Haitian Jack go "OHHH fuck that nigga, not dealing with SUGE" I know H.J. got deported, but man that whole story is wild. SUGE if he got out could make so much money on 2Pac stories right down to him and Pack last conversation/words before the shooting
Shows that pac was just crazy. Danger meant nothing to him.
Kadafi was a young OG. Escorted him out and he was like 16/17 lmao woulda loved to hear his stories
Yh Kadafi was quite mature for his age they say. RIP
Because he was out there in Moncler Jersey early , runnin wild & so was fatal 💯
Yeah Kadafi was a real one, even as a youngster he moved like an OG.
Irvington and Orange The whole Newark area was Gangsta and that's really where all the outlawz came up
Long Live My Libra Twin Kadafi 🦍
Dope shit! This story should go viral. The Art of Dialogue and Delray Richardson did it again, great interview.
Pac seems like the type of person that loved confrontation just to see how far you will take it there with him.
Definitely a drama queen
@@33GLOCK He was 😅Dats why i think he knew biggie didn’t set him up when he got shot the first time but he just feed off the drama
Typical Gemini lol 😂
@@BlessedOne85That part! 💯
@@Militant_KPGemini here 🙋🏿♂️🙋🏿♂️🙋🏿♂️ 😄 lol
Finally someone who don’t talk about how great there relationship was with him and that’s it nobody gets along all the time
Damn
Because Delray doing the interview he , not a groupie he really got love for Pac .
@@GLEN515 got to give the man props these are the interviews I want to see people who where more apart of his personal life and not just in the business eating off pac and still eating off him like the record label known as death row if they gave a shit about him he would still be here in my opinion he should have been protected if that shit with Orlando was real even I would have known we should not be out and about like that the Pirus suge and Reggie knew who Orlando was and his reputation if any of that is real he was a known shooter to all them and none of them should have allowed pac to be out there like that with no vest 1 and 2 they should have shut the whole night down
@@barrylilley4161 I feel these people really love Pac . As a fan I got a love hate feeling about Pac I love the real Pac the revolutionary I hate the fake Pac the gangster one that shit between him a Biggie should've never happened . We lost the best rapper and the best emcee of all time over some dumb shit still breaks my heart . People really love 2pac people still want to make him out as a thug and he wasn't . Even though he call himself a thug because that's how white people look at all us they say thug instead of the n word Pac was right but stop making him out to be a mindless killer .
@@GLEN515You clearly didn't watch the interview
He had what alcoholics refer to as a " moment of clarity"
Hahaha. Naaa that's real though!
Why are none of you guys not sharing with the youth about Tupac s intelligence and work ethic. His love for education, reading, writing, and studying but instead sharing drama. Tupac work ethic is the reason for the season.
You wouldn’t even know pac if it wasn’t for the drama
@@logicalmalethink4925right, he stayed relevant by all the drama. If he didn't have those stints, I don't think he would of have been big.
@@logicalmalethink4925 Talk about it. Take away drama and controversy and drama from Pac's like and he would be the equivalent of MC Eiht or Spice 1.
@@ILoveTheAllCreator Preach homie. The rape case and him getting shot at quad studio propelled his celebrity status
@@fakethuglifehe was famous before then
"Pac was a gun enthusiast"
Oh, trust me, we know. He dedicated a whole song to his guns on "Me And My Girlfriend".
I think most Black people who has had a close relationship with their relatives can relate to this disfunction among our people. Glad there were responsible men there to separate their young hot headed asses. Wish Pac had listened to his cousin about Jack.
All people go through that not just us
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 But we're not supposed to. I don't care what "all people" do. I care about my own.
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826yea
His cousin?!? BIG told em...Treach told em....Pac ain't understand the streets.... He even said he thought no black man would ever harm em....that's the thoughts of a nigga NOT from the streets
@@thewatchers9123true
Damn I got chills PAC should have listen to his real friends damn
Dude, this like 30 years ago, y'all digging up stories like them old neggas still in ya old hood doing the same shyt and talking about old times!!!!!😂
This is his cousin
@@bishop84100 ok damn I didn't kno that
many people told him to stay away from Haitian Jack... but 2pac man groupies don't want to hear it, nd blame everyone else
Proof of his hardheadedness
Haitian Jack was also the codefendant on the Ayana Jackson case, he got off those cases because he was an "informant", thats why he was around Pac
Wrong
Jack had a police union lawyer lol, if that aint a fed informant then u smoking pipe.
You are too young to know the truth lol
@@pcangeldust 2Pac fanboys🤦🏾♂
@fakethuglife only thing you fanning Is the Hate!!! But he storyline will keep you a groupie 4lyfe!! Its very obvious you a orbit of lies and spew dramatic comments for the infamous troll 🧌 under the Threads as "spy" poof 😅yo u shook 🤡 clown😊
he was telling him real shit Pac should have listen.
B.I.G Told Em Warned Him As Well.
Obviously in retrospect he should have listened but you know how young people are. They have to learn for themselves l guess. I just want to know why Pac felt Big owed him any info about the quad incident when he already warned Pac about certain people's and Pac clearly ignored that advice.
@@dmoralesyethics yeah maybe he thought they was friends he should've told him again . But after I warn you one time I'm not gonna keep telling you if you don't listen. Plus biggie was scared of Haitian Jack and his crew he couldn't say nothing if he knew
@@mexia23 yep 💯. Also Big said most NY cats couldn't visit Pac in prison due to being felons themselves. Meaning most were actively on probation/parole and we're not allowed contact with other felons unless they wanted to risk violating and possibly being sent back to prison themselves.
@@mexia23Plus the fact that Pac went and told Jack what Big said about him didn’t help their relationship either.
PAC spoke about his cousin warned him about Haitian jack being a snitch he said that earlier
he didnt say anything about jack being a snitch. he said he was too thugged out for him and pac to be around because he was into violent stuff.
@@ThaRealERAQ he said jack was suspect and how he got freed for a shooting
@@TheBulletzgottishow20 he said he was locked up in 83. It was 92/93 when the argument he said happened. he could definitely have been out especially before war on drugs law changes.
@@TheBulletzgottishow20 if jack was a snitch somebody somewhere would have came out by now and said dude ratted on them
@TheBulletzgottishow20 @TharealERAQ why or how would Pac cousin know Jack a snitch for simply bailing out? it was 1983 Jack must have been a under 18 if he was born mid to late 60's and Jack went to prison convicted before was it for that crime? i understand some folks dont like Jack but its way too easy to put snitch jacket on folks unecessarily.
so folks never got bail for shooting you ,cant possibly believe that ? it wasnt murder lets be fair here
Biggie told him, Mike Tyson told him, his cousin told him.
Watani told him... Pac was hardheaded... A hard head makes a soft behind
Pac loved danger was exciting to him.
I like this brother! He’s not trying to make himself more than what he was!
Great story! Good hearing his personal interactions with 2Pac.
This looks like the same guy who worked at the Tupac Shakur Center for the Arts in Stone Mountain.... I gave him a picture I drew of Pac & put it on the wall, it was laminated. He worked the desk. I gave him the picture I drew, I bought a 2 disk Outlaw mixtape, which I still have & a pair of jeans that had 2Pac face on one of the pants leg... A year or so later, I moved to Atlanta to attend AIA... True Story
Either him or his brother
Peace King
So is he going to tell the story on how he supposedly stole Tupac’s guns in Atlanta the same week Tupac went to Las Vegas & Tupac was going to fly out that weekend to give him the beats 🤣, but Suge wanted Pac to go Vegas with him so bad.. well you know the rest , RIP TUPAC 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Shoulda went and beat his ass, might still be alive today.😊
That’s his brother kendrick
No 2pac had to goto vegas or probation violation
Nah that’s was for his cousin
AYYYYE I WAS WAITING ON IT 😂😂😂
Wasn’t there a interview where Pac said his cousin told him around the time of accusation and that’s when he started falling back from Jack?
Yea there is, he said his blood cousin was telling him all this stuff, I think it's the interview with Sway
@@ETHIOPIANASSASINyeah it was the sway interview a couple months before he passed
2pac man groupies ain't going to reply to this comment...
How you walk on assault charge after shooting someone and your bail is set at 3500 ? Jack is a C.I
@jthrillz7288 why or how would Pac cousin know Jack a snitch for simply bailing out? it was 1983 Jack must have been a minor Jack must have been a under 18 if he was born mid to late 60's and jack went to prison convicted before was it for that crime. i understand some folks dont like Jack but its way too easy to put snitch jacket on folks unecessarily. so folks never got bail for shooting you cant possibly believe that ? it wasnt murder lets be fair here
Not only that… he is the one that had sex with the girl in 2pacs room but 2pac is the one that went to jail on those charges. Jack walked.
#BIGFACTS
The early 80s that happened all the time
David Kenner was his lawyer. The same guy who actually owned death row records & got snoop off in his murder trial & represented Prad in his money laundering trial this year. Haitian jack & the fugees all rolled with each other in the 90s
If you saw Pac back then, Billy was definitely around Pac in those early days. I remember him in that Benz that was leaving (from some club in Atlanta that had a show that the police and fire Marshall shut down ) that Pac was in the backseat throwing up the middle finger and he was throwing it up as well.
For some odd reason the end of this story brought me joy
Add him to the list of people who warned PAC. Mike Tyson and Biggie.
According to Biggie Big Stretch also warned Pac not to hang with Jack and his assoaciates. But Then Pac accuses Stretch of being a apart of the Quad studios set up 🤦♀
@@PPHDocumentaries well stretch was delivering messages from henchman to pac. so that was what was wrong
@@PacMusicVault
Makes no sense cause Pac accused Biggie of betraying him because Biggie wasn't relaying messages and telling him what happened
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate biggie didn’t say anything to him because puff was on his and telling big he shouldn’t bow down to him.
the stretch messages were different. where he was telling pac that henchman told him to get his money right before he goes to war.
2 completely different situations, stretch was delivering messages from the enemy and biggie wasnt telling pac it had nothing to do with him
@@PacMusicVault
First of all you have no idea what Puff was saying to Biggie because neither of them were doing all that talking.
And yeah it's the same exact situation with two different outcomes because Tupac was a two faced erratic dude. Tupac told sway on record, that Biggie's homeboys shot him, which would make Biggies homeboys PACs enemy, the same as Henchman... so Pac was asking Big to give him info on his enemies. But he turned on Stretch for doing it.
Pac eventually started to listen to Will and started falling back from Jack and those slimey dudes around him but it was too late, the trap had been set and they set him up in the studio and brought that dirty mole chick to get him caught up in a sexual assault case, you always listen to fam from jump, especially if they call the greasey person out in front of them and you.
Stop believing all that fairytale movie shit. There was no trap. Pac was talking tough to Jimmy Henchmen on the phone not knowing Jimmy was a gangster, not an industry exec. That's why he got lined up at Quad studio. Jack had nothing to do with that. As for the chick, she was there to see Pac. Pac dipped on her and left her with the homies to get ran thru. She pressed charges on Pac because she felt like he lined her up for that to happen. Jack separated himself from Pac's case because that's what his lawyer felt was the best plan. The chick wanted Pac to settle out of court and pay her. Pac fought the shit and ended up blowing trial. There was no grand conspiracy, just actions and reactions.
LOL
He stopped kicking it with Jack only a few weeks before he got shot.
When the case was nearing the end, he was stressed out developing skin problems and one night drunk with Mickey Rourke while telling AJ Benza from the Daily News about Jack.
Before that they were still cool
Jack was a snitch he set 2pac up we know what it is its the hardest niggaz thats out here snitching on niggaz 🤦♂️
Haitian Jack wasn't a snitch and there was no reason for him to set Pac up. Plus Pac was scared of Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchmen thats why he never did nothing to them. Pac died a fake thug and coward.
Who he snitch on?
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate in 1994 2pac and Jack was accused of rape the lady said she was gang raped 2pac gets shot 5 times goes to jail jack gets off free 2 other get off free jack introduce the lady to 2pac jack gets off and gets sent out of the United States for protection what that is do your homework kid am from the streets I know how this shit go just listen to "against all odds" he told us every thing didn't say biggie name not one time on that song and jack also tried to sue afeni for that song but lost people say he accused biggie for the 1994 shooting but it was set up by jack and Jimmy henchmen biggie and puffy new it was gonna happen facts 💯🥱
@@makaveli7377
Jack copped out and received community service
U just chatting aka don't know wth u talking about
@@YaGudBuddyUncleNate jack is a snitch kid you don't know what you talking about if the girl say she was gang raped and 2pac go to jail what is that she had sex with him before that day jack introduced the girl to 2pac kid you don't know what you talking if you want to know about that just go play "against all odds" 2pac told you everything that happened even named one of the guy who shot tut that's facts it's paperwork on jack kid 2pac cousin saw the paper when he tried to sue afeni for the song so why jack can't come back to the U.S they sent his ass out the U.S stop capping for a snitch 🤦♂️
Any time the OG telling the story is dressed in everyday non flashy s***...
_you already know the interveiw is gonna be "Da Truth"💯🎯❗
*and it ended beautifully💪😎
This dude got the best 2pac interviews
If Pac had taken his advice he may have avoided a lot of the BS he went thru.
Pac stans swear he wasn't warned 😑
One situation. Get over yourselves lol
Pac wanted to impress other people. That's why he went overboard.
That’s family love!
There's no much talked about legend than Pac, not even Michael Jackson!!!
Cap mj is bigger
Mj bigger, i feel mj doesnt have that many stories because he was unreachable. He was so high in stardom only a few people had access to him personally
Haitian Jack does have a strong face
Nah that’s Henchman
Haitian Jack scared Pac.
rofl whole family walked past him on porch to go chill indoors until he woke up 😂😂😂😂😂
I love this story made my day to kno pac wasn’t petty lol
This was.a beautiful interview
Ed Lover said everybody told Pac not to mess with Haitian Jack and his people`s.
Cousin Bill!!! I'm Shawne LeSane from Baltimore!!!!❤🎉🫡✊🏿
Well, we need to hear more from you!
That last line explains why Biggie kind of hoped that he and Pac would reconcile; which is why even if he has been accused of dissing Pac, it is safe to say that the supposed diss songs were not "all out disses" comparable to the potency of "Hit 'Em Up." I don't think Pac liked the idea of permanent enemies. He did say he didn't want anything bad to happen to Big. How come he has been friends with Puffy before? Big Gene has seen Pac and Puffy together without Big. I agree that Pac wasn't a vengeful or grudgeful dude...
Another 🔥 interview. I gotta watch that full interview I'm seeing. That's gonna be next
Do this dude only interview people who knew 2pac is he obsessed with Pac
Has anybody told @TK_Kirkland that the joke is dried up?
Finally, something new about 2Pac
Like Pac's other relative said "the day Pac branched off from HIS PPL,was the day pac changed because he didn't have his ppl there to protect him from his own self"
Art needs to get one of the outlaws to verify this story. If he was drunk to the point where he threw up, how did he remember all that. Ijs
Already confirmed you're late.
I’ve been drunk, threw up and remember the full night 😂😂
Why? For you enjoyment?
You pac stans are weirdos, stay in your place
@@martybrown156 well why dont you say who confirmed it?? if youre early...
Hey yo Kurupt,you know how we do it on the west side ride on em,ride!
Kurupt:For real
man these stories are addictive like game of thrones but was his real life
That’s how family do. Tupac was a human being. Flawed like all of us. Family falls out, argue, fight, curse each other out but family is still family and the love remains. Love to see the love from his family
People got bailed out for shootings in early 80s all the time especialy as a teen
No they didn't 😂😂😂💀 Yall always forget Black people don't get the same treatment as everybody else.js
@@phoney4387yes they did, they get bailed out for shootings today all the time too
No they didn't & it's difficult now @@Tomorrison28 You have zero clue what Black experience in any era because you're not Black.....and nice attempt at racism but non blacks aren't exactly the picture of non violent 🤷🏿♀️💭
Great story!
You can’t tell me Liquor doesn’t expose the demons inside of some people….whenever I drink I’m cool as a cucumber…it’s actually difficult for me to GET mad when I’m having my drinks. I’m jovial as hell
Ain’t no way a grown man calling his friend a “bitch” several times without truly harboring some real animosity towards him when sober
Thats his older cousin, he helped raised 2pac. Family members fight and call each other out their names everyday.. that dont mean there's no love and respect. They are just mad at each other. and he was drunk when he called 2pac a bitch. . im sure 2pac called him a bitch too. Thats family shit.
Exactly. It just exposes who you really are. I'm happy and very chill/out going when I drink.
Not necessarily because if you deep the context. Tupac's cousin was trying to warn him to stay away from Haitian Jack. Even Biggie allegedly warned Tupac about Haitian Jack. So if you're trying to warn someone and they defend it can lead into an argument which at young ages a lot of name calling is often said
@@TheAlkebulanTrustyeah….but no
Idc how you feel….a grown man calling another man a BITCH freely and numerously is wild
Even in anger you know there are lines you don’t cross…for example…any man who tells another man “suck my dick” is asking to get stomped
But that’s the NYC in me
Y’all obviously don’t have cousins
A Real 1 right here shout out to the Tupac Family
People always talk about recklessness and irrational behavior that cost him his life but dude couldve died in his moms stomach in prison then he couldve been shot by them 2 off duty cops when he bucked at them. He was a wild horse but his actions had good intentions in most cases. We all been through learning experiences its just this dude didnt have the same margin of error that most do, he and his family were targets from the jump. "You asked if i could trade in your place how
Would i hold up, how long would i ride before i fold up"- NAS.
I know a family and I'm considered part of that family even though I'm not blood-related, that has a uncle who rarely speaks at all, but watches everything. This family is into several types of illegal activity (for decades now) that I won't mention, but he was there when his brother, 2 cousins, aunt, and another close family friend got killed by people who were "close" but crossed them out. Some died in the 80's and 90's, but since then, he won't even warn a family member if he suspects anything. They just disappear for whatever reason..... Why argue or fight with anyone you love because they are blinded by loyalty or whatever else is what I take from that, just deal with the issue.
Interesting. Would like to hear more!
Indeed. At times kindness can be mistaken, love can be misguided, and loyalty can be misplaced. That's why Tupac Shakur was always getting betrayed and hurt, which only increased his fear and suspicion of those he held dear to his heart ❤️🙏.
Ain't this the same cousin that stole from Tupac?
His time with 2Pac should be a movie not the Hollywood bs
Isn’t this the cousin that sold all of Tupac guns for drug money? He looks good and recovered
Thats not him that was his brother Kendrick
No he was the brother that helped that brother smoke the drugs
Everybody was on him about Jack.. wished he would've listened
Pac still lookin out for his ppls after 30 years of death damn !!
'PROMISE 2 PAY BACK JIMMY HENCHMAN .. IN DUE TIME .. I KNOW U BEEOTCH NAGAS IS LISTENIN .. DA WORLD IS MINE' ..
Please do more interviews from Tupac's cousins and Jimmy lovine
Jimmy Iovine? 😂😂😂
Yea. Would like to know how they discovered Pac and if they truly did bail Pac out on bail in the background but used Suge as a front.
@@PeterStone-hy6ir yes. He's relationship with Suge and how they got Pac out on bail.
Lol Jimmy Iovine ain't doing no interview
He seems like a og fareal to be in the streets on each coast not alot of ppl can say that
Great story bro. Thnx for sharing !
How come I ain’t see this in the Movie On All Eyez On Me 😂😂😂😂
U can't say Tupac didn't have warnings he had strong warning, and he didn't listen
The way, Del Ray says 2Pac is hilarious to me. He says it with such emphasis.
😭😭😭😭😭😭
I wonder is this the cousin who Napoleon said sold all of Pac's guns for drugs
it was pacs other cousin his brother
That was Williams brother Kendrick
He probably benefitted too
He probably went in the kitchen and said "Yo..I knew Jack" like Christopher Williams in New Jack City.
Can someone clear up why Pac's alleged name was Lesane Parish Crooks lmao. When Lesane is obviously the Last name. His cousin Jamala last name is also Lesane.
So was Pac actually named Parish Crooks Lesane????
Lmao does Pac have a damn twin or not
Yeah Pac was born Parish Lesane Crooks. He was given the name inorder to protect him against the enemies of the Black Panther movement. Why Lesane? Afeni who is Pac mother who by the way adopted the name Afeni she was Alice Faye Williams but that's a story for another day. Afeni's sister Gloria is mother to Kendrick, Jamala and William Lesane. Lesane is surname to Gloria's husband. So Afeni used her sister's new surname to name her son. Hope that clears it.
Thug in peace yak 💯
Tupac was in way over his head, like Mike Tyson said you’re out your league right now
Pac should've just listened to him about haitan jack. Few people tried to warn him as well.
Yet those same people were around Jack so it looks contradictory. Pac stopped messing with him months before Quad anyway
I even warned him too, but you know Pac was full of adrenaline.
I told Pac back in 89 that Jack was shady and that he shouldn't mess with Orlando because the street politics run deep in LA.
art donate some money to 2 pac family yall stay eating off this man name
They get paid for these interview
@@TheNatasha22202bingo!
@@TheNatasha22202 like Vlad
Pac was always fighting someone
The dude is a doppelganger of Pusha T in Pusha T's late 50s.
That story was 🔥
Gotta love Family mines the same way Good Lawd lol✅️ Salute William Salute Pac💯
Ok, how many niggaz actually know 2Pac at this point? 😂😂😂😂
So u think pac don’t got family??
@@mynameismyname3436literally pac stans act like this guy no family. Its his cousin 😑
The entire lgbtq community
I met Jack. Hes a real killer. Alot of people are scared of just his name
Liar
FROM FRIENDS TO ENEMIES
When I look at Haitian Jack he gives me Joe Jackson vibes 😂
😭 😂
Would’ve gone bad trying to fight yak drunk 😂😂 hands kind of sharp
Not trippin’ one what he is talking about.
My main thing is this guy is so New York….I hear in his voice the entire 90s.
good interview
Jacques Agnant was working for the Gubment as a CI. King Tut took the credit for the shooting at Quad Studios however the person has been identified as Dexter Isaac. Mr. Isaac has written a book ijs. So the same dude that set 2 Pac up with the rape charge is the same person who helped Tyson go as well.
That was a dope story in he wasn’t wrong for recollecting about being in the bullpen with dude but they definitely had to much liquor that night but i am glad there were no hard feelings afterwards.
How come I never saw Pac cousin in the movie all eyes on me 😂😂😂😂😂
Can we please get someone from khadafi family on here and talk about the young relationship between him and pac from kids
it was beautiful 🤣 love it
His cuz warned him, Biggie warned him, Tyson said he warned him. Pac was not very wise
Sorry buddy, but it couldn't have been 83 ! Because Jack was lock up in Elmira (upstate) do you research if you think that im lying
Tupac expected there to be a certain level of loyalty between black people that he saw as a kid in the Black Panther Party. It blinded him to how guys like Jack operated
Yo Art …please brother so whatever you have to do and get Mutulu on ya show ….if the brother is well enough health wise …we the ppl really need an in depth interview!!
Ask Billy about the time Kastro got his hat took in Jersey and Fatal had to get it back.
Excellent!!!!
my guy Will! The realist
Dude looks and sounds like a (50 year) rapper Currency!!
I never touched a gun that i couldn't shoot. Tupac
He probably the only person i can hear call Pac "Bitch" and me not get mad. Just because I know how much love they had for each other. Both just drunk. He wish he had listened to his cousin about Jack though.
Hatred??
Some people are just a part of your destiny. For right or for wrong they were destined to play a part in your life. Like Judas was to Jesus. Haitian Jack was supposed to be a nemesis in Tupac’s life.