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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @jeffreyharper2710
    @jeffreyharper2710 3 года назад +5

    3:02 Arkansas was never in the Big12 - they left the Southwest Conference in 1990.

  • @ckmont1996
    @ckmont1996 3 года назад +22

    If anyone ever thought Nebraska was coming back to the Big 12 you are out of your minds to think that. Trust me, I live near the Nebraska border and they are barely even talking about the realignment. What they are talking about is the New Athletic Director, and how Scott Frost will perform in his 4th season with the team. Nebraska could careless about what is happening here in the Big 12, they have been gone for 10 years now, get over it. They will never come back.

    • @justinadam2316
      @justinadam2316 3 года назад +1

      Not just that but the money they make in the b10 is ridiculous. That conf is very rich.

    • @ckmont1996
      @ckmont1996 3 года назад

      @@justinadam2316 exactly, and also I would think that the exit fee for the Big 10 would be enormous.

    • @bobbysutton460
      @bobbysutton460 3 года назад +4

      I agree Nebraska could care less what happens in the big 12. 10 years ago the big 12 kissed texas butt and bow down to them when Nebraska was the only one that went against Texas and voted against them. Now Nebraska has the last laugh and can say I told you so.

    • @ckmont1996
      @ckmont1996 3 года назад

      @@bobbysutton460 that's why you can't trust snakes, they will eventually bite you when you are not looking.

    • @kabbey30
      @kabbey30 3 года назад +1

      Just for the record, we don't want them back. They dug a huge grave in the Big 10 and now they are laying in it.

  • @SilverSergeant
    @SilverSergeant 3 года назад +8

    There certainly was a segment of Arkansas fans who wanted us to move to the B12......I think most of them have now come to their senses. Moving to the SEC was a brilliant move by Frank Broyles, and leaving would be the most ridiculous move in the history of the program.

    • @WDB2005
      @WDB2005 3 года назад +1

      Consider this has the SEC treated Arkansas like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia maybe even Tennessee and the Mississippi Schools?

  • @godofglorykingsofhonormini6984
    @godofglorykingsofhonormini6984 3 года назад +3

    You guys are very entertaining ! Funny takes and good information . A huge Ohio State fan offering condolences about the big twelve . I think they have some good teams they could get like Boise St. , Cincinnati , Memphis , Houston . That would still be a very good league . God bless !

  • @zombie4414
    @zombie4414 3 года назад +3

    You guys are great!

  • @BJtheMountaineerguy
    @BJtheMountaineerguy 3 года назад +3

    Great show guys 💯 Go WVU 💛💙

  • @WDB2005
    @WDB2005 3 года назад +1

    Honestly the college football commissioner should have stepped in and said “No this is how the conferences are”

  • @daviddickey1994
    @daviddickey1994 3 года назад +8

    How could Arkansas come back to a conference we were never in?

    • @oakrah7577
      @oakrah7577 3 года назад +1

      They mean how Arkansas was in the SWC, which was the proceeding confrence to the big 12. The big 8 isn't the father of the Big 12, it was the SWC. Just look who ran it, and then ran it into the ground.

  • @aaronlovell6026
    @aaronlovell6026 3 года назад +9

    Arkansas is not going anywhere. Not a chance.

    • @MentalOutlvl6
      @MentalOutlvl6 3 года назад

      I doubt that 31 years ago Arkansas was a pretty good football program its kinded faded off into history so going to the big 12 could help plus they used to have a excellent basketball program as well

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад

      yep -- stay put, right where you are

  • @varrick1226
    @varrick1226 3 года назад +1

    Texas Division. Mountain Division East Division Midwest Division
    SMU Colo St. Cin Iowa St.
    Houston Boise St. Memphis Kan St.
    Baylor Utah St. WVU Kan
    TCU UNLV C. Florida Okla St.
    Tex Tec BYU S. Florida Tulsa
    Form a super conference and add any schools that the PAC 12 drop should they merge with the Big 10

  • @beachrunner428
    @beachrunner428 3 года назад +2

    Nobody is going to the BIG12 with an expiring contract with FOX. That conference is toast

    • @graygrantham1996
      @graygrantham1996 3 года назад

      To make that assertion is to ignore the fact that the Big 12 has certain value (at least for the next 4 years, which is an eternity in college football politics) that the AAC: Cicinnati, ECU, Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF, MWC: Boise State, Colorado State, Sun Belt: Coastal Carolina, C-USA: UAB, and finally BYU do not currently have. #1 A seat at the Power 5 table. #2 Ownership of media rights for the Oklahoma Sooners and the Texas Longhorns.
      Can the AAC and MWC sit pat and watch the Big 12 disolve? Sure but it would be a waste of a once in a lifetime opportunity for all of these schools, when they could all lobby the Big 12 for inclusion in a news 16 Team Super Conference that as a minium would retain Power 5 status, for at least the next 4 years. Who knows? In that 4 years this new super conference could "earn" a permanent seat at the Power 5 table. The odds of that happening are intuitively greater than the same happening with the AAC adding the remainder of the Big 12 in 4 years.
      If Iowa State, Kansas and West Virginia bolt for greener pastures as has been widely speculated with some supporting evidence each one of these schools mentioned above could be in the situation of they need teh Big 12 as much as the Big 12 needs them.

    • @beachrunner428
      @beachrunner428 3 года назад

      @@graygrantham1996 Come back to this post in a month. BIG12 and that FOX deal is toast. That commish hit the nuke on it when he pointed at ESPN.

  • @robertmcanarney7589
    @robertmcanarney7589 3 года назад +3

    Arkansas may have the number one overall sports program in the nation. Give Arkansas a little more respect.

    • @yoshimcclendon6093
      @yoshimcclendon6093 3 года назад +2

      Lol

    • @robertmcanarney7589
      @robertmcanarney7589 3 года назад

      @@yoshimcclendon6093
      Top 10 in the learfield IMG directors cup standings for best all-around sports programs in the nation 2021. Laugh all you want you don't have a clue.

    • @slaygadethicide
      @slaygadethicide 3 года назад

      Lmfaoooo

    • @robertmcanarney7589
      @robertmcanarney7589 3 года назад

      @@slaygadethicide look in the mirror and laugh your ass off jerk

    • @tacticalmattfoley
      @tacticalmattfoley 3 года назад

      3rd in the SEC.

  • @aCycloneSteve
    @aCycloneSteve 3 года назад

    I was hoping for a better top 5.

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden3045 3 года назад +5

    Who the hell thinks Nebraska and Arkansas are leaving the big 10/14 and the SEC?

    • @ssgus3682
      @ssgus3682 3 года назад +1

      Those who got the best weed and smoked it all rather than sharing.

    • @WDB2005
      @WDB2005 3 года назад +1

      People who actually think and don’t like the way conferences are like seriously only idiots think Missouri will ever be good in the SEC idiots believe Rutgers and Maryland will become competitive in the Big Ten
      Geographic > Money

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 года назад

      @@WDB2005
      I would imagine Missouri can be average in the sec.
      I don’t see them dominating
      They can be OK.

    • @WDB2005
      @WDB2005 3 года назад

      @@lordrayden3045 yeah but they’ve o my had 3 winning seasons and multiple losing seasons and only two .500 seasons
      Missouri in all honesty should be playing Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Nebraska

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 года назад

      @@WDB2005
      At the tine I thought Missouri would be a better big 10/14 fit.
      Bring in them and Kansas. Instead of Nebraska.

  • @stephenyoung2742
    @stephenyoung2742 3 года назад +1

    You need to talk about revising recruiting rules to where out of state recruiting would have same rules has in state! Plus Football staffs should be larger! Basketball has a head coach and 3 to 4 assistants! How about 15 or 16! This would help recruiting and developing players! Always thought the lesser teams need to ban together for tv contracts plus not play those conferences not for equal sharing! Colleges should require minimum of 40,000 thousand seats for football and 10,000 for basketball to be in top division! How about smaller schools going after moving baseball to summer schedule right after basketball regular season to make revenue!

  • @staleydu1
    @staleydu1 3 года назад +1

    You're correct they won't come back. Sadly, with where they can now recruit, they won't be competitive either.

  • @gregorykrug8034
    @gregorykrug8034 3 года назад

    How about Colorado returning to the Big 12? If everyone waits to see if there is any kind of Big Ten/Pac-12 merger, rumors have Colorado being left out. Do Colorado and Utah really want to hang out with Washington State and Oregon State if USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, etc., jump ship to work with the Big Ten?

    • @ssgus3682
      @ssgus3682 3 года назад +1

      The current talks between the Big ten and pac-12 are non-conference match-ups. Not mergers or stealing schools
      So Michigan USC week 1 non-conference. Oregon Ohio State.

    • @timmeyer9191
      @timmeyer9191 3 года назад

      Definitely possible if the Big 10 does raid the Pac 12. It has to happen first, and that might still be a couple years. Big 12 needs a post 2025 plan that it can present its members and potential media partners now. One way it could help settle down nerves is announcing they are adding 4 teams by 2025 to get to 12 again, but they may have to look outside the power 5 for those teams until the Big 10 makes its move - if it does.

  • @cadengrace5466
    @cadengrace5466 3 года назад +2

    While Nebraska and Arkansas are not coming back, the door is ajar for Colorado. Utah might think twice about it. Reaching out to the best of what is out there would add Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and BYU. I think at least three of them would say yes, probably all four if Utah and or Colorado was also in the mix. Whatever combination of them, at least 12 would be present for a Championship Game which is desperately needed for the cash flow. UCF is a good choice but they are pretty far away.

    • @ckmont1996
      @ckmont1996 3 года назад

      I don't see any school who left the Big 12 coming back to it. Especially to one that looks like a sinking ship. Missouri isn't coming back, Texas A&M isn't coming back, Nebraska isn't coming back, Texas and Oklahoma for sure aren't coming back, and Colorado isn't coming back. The only way they will expand the conference is going to someone from the AAC or Mountain West Conference.

    • @cadengrace5466
      @cadengrace5466 3 года назад

      @@ckmont1996 You are probably right. If any school came back it would be Colorado was my point. I think Utah could be convinced to make the move as it is a lateral one, which says a lot about the level of engagement in the Pac-12.

  • @bx22able
    @bx22able 3 года назад +1

    One absurd notion I keep seeing is:
    Texas A&M will move to the B1G.
    Lol, what? 🤣

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 3 года назад

      On the one hand, A&M is a member of the AAU, a group of major research universities. Every Big 10 school but Nebraska is a member, and Nebraska was a member, when it accepted the Big 10 invitation.
      On the other hand, a school wanting to join the Big 10 must be in a state with another member or a state that borders a state with a member.
      For A&M to join, a school in Kansas and a school in Oklahoma would have to join, or a school in Missouri and a school in Arkansas would have to join.
      While KU is an AAU member, Oklahoma State isn't. Mizzou is a member, but Arkansas isn't.
      The AAU membership requirement was one reason why there was reluctance for the conference to strongly pursue Notre Dame.

    • @bx22able
      @bx22able 3 года назад

      @@kentfrederick8929 AAU membership can be granted with a vote. Most Southern universities already have ABET accreditation and many also have LCME. The last factor would be; how much research money are they spending?
      If they wanted to make it happen, AAU membership wouldn't be an obstacle.
      The footprint...
      Idk how important that really is to them.
      I know why TAMU wanted to leave the Big XII and I know why they chose the SEC.
      Even though they are back in a conference with UT, the situation is completely different (for now). TAMU hasn't changed their minds about the SEC.
      I think that they are expecting UT will eventually attempt what they used to do and are expecting the SEC won't allow it.

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 3 года назад

      @@bx22able Apparently, to join the AAU requires another school to be a sponsor. So, the question is whether a school is sponsoring another, because it believes that the amount and quality of research merits membership, or because the athletic department is pushing membership to get a school into a conference.
      From what I've read, the problem with getting Notre Dame into the Big 10 was concerns that Notre Dame's research wasn't of the same caliber as the 11 members of the Big 10. That may have been why the Big 10 didn't pursue ND as strongly as fans wanted.

    • @mrboyer
      @mrboyer 3 года назад

      @@kentfrederick8929 B1G has tried many times to add ND and they aren’t interested. and there is not a rule that you need to have a border with the B1G to join.

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 3 года назад

      @@mrboyer Is there a specific rule? No. But I have read in the Chicago Tribune over the years that expansion is limited by geography (no gap states) and membership in the AAU.
      There was an article in the Tribune about whether a Big 10 school would sponsor ND for membership, and was the school's research of sufficient amount and quantity to get into the AAU.
      If it wasn't for Penn State, the Big 10 would not have invited Maryland and Rutgers to join.

  • @jmjsr
    @jmjsr 3 года назад

    #1 was a double negative, meaning they are coming.

  • @davidlinder8954
    @davidlinder8954 3 года назад +5

    This top 5 was a waste of time.

  • @stevensuarez8443
    @stevensuarez8443 3 года назад +6

    Texas was losing its grip on the big 12 regularly losing to smaller schools and not able to spend its way into prominence any longer, the Gary Patterson and Matt Campbells of the League ran the Long horns out of the Big 12, they had to get out to keep from losing any more ground.

    • @joec880
      @joec880 3 года назад +1

      That butthurt won't help you.

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад

      @@joec880 good one :)

  • @Peter.Young21
    @Peter.Young21 3 года назад

    Lol Bowlsbys ESPN+ Subscription

  • @dcmoore1959
    @dcmoore1959 3 года назад +1

    The other ‘crack-pipe’ theory is Boise State going to the Pac-12.

  • @jpark108
    @jpark108 3 года назад +1

    wait.... so - they're not coming - in a list of things that aren't going to happen...is that double negative??? WAIT, IS NEBRASKA COMING TO THE BIG 12!? OMG THATS EXCITING

    • @bourboncask4089
      @bourboncask4089 3 года назад

      Glad somebody else caught the double negatives, I thought I was just being dumber than usual.

  • @patlynch3464
    @patlynch3464 3 года назад +1

    If Mizzou and Colorado came back to the B12 then it would be cool for Nebraska and Ark to join as well. Never happen though. NE and AR are very small states and nobody cares.

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад

      and they get more money where they are -- not moving

  • @rogercornelio995
    @rogercornelio995 3 года назад +1

    Josh Pate is a lot better than these three combined!!!

  • @justinress2782
    @justinress2782 3 года назад +1

    Arkansas was never in the Big 12.

  • @johnnaylor1706
    @johnnaylor1706 3 года назад

    ACC wants to take all of Big 12 ..... the will give Clemson a whole new bunch of teams they can beat while resting their starters soon after half time.

  • @Grafknar
    @Grafknar 3 года назад

    GUARANTEE: TEXAS A&M TO THE BIG 12.
    Lolz

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад

      nope -- they started this --- they are happy -- this is a joke I am sure

  • @stephenyoung2742
    @stephenyoung2742 3 года назад +1

    Big ten to get Notre Dame go after Virginia and North Carolina first then ask! Add KU next then Mizzou plus Syracuse! 20 teams with 2 divisions. West ND, Wisc,ILL, Minn, NW, NEB, Iowa, KU, Mizzou and Iowa state maybe if you get both Notre Dame and Mizzou! Irish will like since on paper they would go undefeated to conference title game which even if they lose they get in playoffs!

    • @gphillimo
      @gphillimo 3 года назад +2

      Mizzou is not leaving the SEC.

  • @tacticalmattfoley
    @tacticalmattfoley 3 года назад

    Bottom line: Big12 is no longer a Power 5 conference. Two teams shut-out an entire conference from the playoffs.

  • @icestationzebra8636
    @icestationzebra8636 3 года назад

    🥦🥕🍅🥝🥗🍆🥥

  • @drewharry88
    @drewharry88 3 года назад +2

    Nebraska has a realistic chance of going back to Big 12, actually.. I love when these hosts really believe they know any more about these things than their listeners.

    • @ckmont1996
      @ckmont1996 3 года назад +1

      No they don’t, Nebraska has a slim of a chance to comeback as Texas and Oklahoma will have. Basically 0%, they aren’t even worrying about realignment. From listening to their podcast earlier today, they are more worried about how Trev Alberts will do as AD, how Scott Frost will improve this team from last year, and how they will try to bring some kind of normalcy to Nebraska. This idea that they might comeback is a bunch of hogwash. They would be fools to leave the Big Ten, absolute fools.

    • @thebacons5943
      @thebacons5943 3 года назад +4

      No they don’t. That would be financial suicide. They’ll be big ten bottom feeders for the foreseeable future.

    • @theSparkyWatts
      @theSparkyWatts 3 года назад +2

      If definition of 'Realistic' were: Odds of less than 1%. In that case you'd be right

    • @Bbbmurr
      @Bbbmurr 3 года назад +3

      Why would Nebraska take less money and go back to a dying conference i agree with them 0% chance

    • @ssgus3682
      @ssgus3682 3 года назад +1

      There is also a chance tommorow that aliens launch a full scale invasion of planet Earth.
      It does not mean it is likely.

  • @kellyfindley1485
    @kellyfindley1485 3 года назад +1

    Nebraska has a better chance of winning games if they do...

    • @meowistforlife
      @meowistforlife 3 года назад

      I say it’s still more likely, they could be booted out!

    • @ckmont1996
      @ckmont1996 3 года назад

      @@meowistforlife well they are the only school who isn't accredited by the AAU, which is the stupidest criteria to have to be in a conference. But that is the only thing that is against them at this point, but that's like a 1% chance.

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад

      going to a doomed conference will not help you

  • @danhauser3361
    @danhauser3361 3 года назад

    You guys are wishful thinkers!
    The Big 10 and PAC 12 don’t have to do anything! and probably will take their time…these 8 teams are in limbo for the unforseeable future!
    Baylor and OKla St. and TCU and Kansas are eating crow , egos diminishing, and finding out they aren’t that attractive to anyone! and really don’t have athletic programs any better than AAC or MW or middle of the road programs in the Power5 . It may take them a good while…however, the bell or cash cows are gone!! Your TV negotiators and Aces and Kings walked away!
    They now have to live on their own or survive together….once reality hits!
    The Big 10 , ACC and PAC 12 will be looking at their own bell / cash cows
    first….they may be shaking in their boots as we speak….leaving their fellow members in the dust!!! USC / UCLA and OHio St. / Mich. and Notre Dame and Penn St and Clemson are scratching their heads and huddling up as we speak!
    Matter of fact, I don’t think any of this Big 12 bunch can afford a $80,000,000 exit fee and a $20,000,000 entrance fee to another conference ….hard pressed for sure ..unless they use their credit cards!
    So just sit tight…don’t over react…example Okla St leaves for PAC 12…
    Pays the exit fee &80m snd then sees 6 of cash /bell cows of PAC 12 leave…taking the Rose Bowl snd Playoff spots with them! Don’t say it can’t happen…or you are a fool!
    Better beware……you won’t get into any other Power 5 begging and unless they really want you! Cause they don’t need you!
    Protect your own schools first….players and coaches and run a good program first…..if you have to pay the players ..that is another $3-5 million ( do the math at 150 players for $20,000/yr.)…pay for play on the horizon! A lot of sole searching is in the cards!
    At some time you are going to realize that a conference of equals is better than one with Super Teams and Money….the field will never be level!..in your world! Enough said…
    the NcAA is on its way out….and your Commissioner or Pres…needs to be fired and replaced to rebuild not litigate!

  • @regfrevell6015
    @regfrevell6015 3 года назад +1

    Nebraska will start owning the West and a BIG 10 favorite in the next 3 years...why not take the money too!

    • @supaman321123
      @supaman321123 3 года назад

      Good one. Frost sucks

    • @regfrevell6015
      @regfrevell6015 3 года назад

      @@supaman321123 That's exactly what a "fickle fan" would post....lmao..usually struggle understanding sports...GREAT POST!

    • @terrybrunk9190
      @terrybrunk9190 3 года назад

      What?😁

    • @regfrevell6015
      @regfrevell6015 3 года назад

      @@terrybrunk9190 hoped people paying attentiom...Frost is building a MONSTER! Still young...but too much talent...great staff..and in year 3...always see big gains..especially with size, talent and development!! Staff doing great job!

  • @slibertas1996
    @slibertas1996 3 года назад

    It’s not over. The Texas legislature can and will block this nonsense

    • @joec880
      @joec880 3 года назад +4

      No. No they won't.

    • @storm7586
      @storm7586 3 года назад +4

      No they can't - they didn't stop the ags

    • @slibertas1996
      @slibertas1996 3 года назад

      @@storm7586 actually they can stop them by law

    • @slibertas1996
      @slibertas1996 3 года назад

      @jack harrington drug free here my dude

    • @allbassnobs803
      @allbassnobs803 3 года назад

      @@slibertas1996 what law is in place that allows them to stop university athletics?