Nuclear Engineer Reacts to Kyle Hill "The Goiânia Accident - South America's Nuclear Tragedy"
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Nuclear Engineer Reacts to Kyle Hill "The Goiânia Accident - South America's Nuclear Tragedy" 
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As a Brazilian who lives in Brasília just 200 Km from Goiânia I really appreciate that the story of what happened is being discovered by more people. Btw your pronunciation was pretty good
I first learned about it at a radiation safety course in Canada.
As an American who hasn’t had to worry about this kinda thing to much, I’m just glad that more people didn’t die. While it is a tragedy, it could have been infinitely worse. 😢
@@WingManFang1about that. You don't live in the South west, do you?
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alot of them have big thighs and cheeks, and i'm referring g to the lower body cheeks, that clap. Not facial cheeks 😅😅😅
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Yes I know i sound stupid 😅😅😅 What can i say I LOVE BRAZILIAN WOMEN
I'm from goiás, my city is 30 miles away from goiânia, and I can not stress how much of an impact this accident had on our local history
I remember when I was a kid passing by on a bus with my mom, in front of the memorial where the lead coffins are buried, people would make this solemn silence out of respect, out of reference/ fear
they'd tell to each other recollections of the event, things they personally remember or were told by their parents
it's not something that can be properly described, but even as a kid I could feel in the atmosphere
that was our littler cherbonyl, children from goiás learn very early to respect nuclear power, we've collectively felt what happens when you don't
Thanks for sharing your experience. Just so you know, where you say "out of reference/ fear", I think you mean "out of reverence / fear". Easy mistake to make.
it'd really tragic. i'm glad that the children around the area get education about radiation. education can help people to protect themselves, even when authorities fail to protect us.
and that same complacent ignorance creates a population that throws stones at a little girls coffin out of unjustified fear.
We need to do a better job at teaching the general public about how radiation works
Yeah that's Brazil Allright. We don't have a plan in place for anything, but if you want stellar improvisation and on-the‐fly organization/voluntary action, there's basically noone better. We even have a word for it. "Gambiarra". It's something like "hot fix" or improvised solution, the 'definitive provisory' we call it. Many things are just kinda fixed on the fly with whatever materials we have in hand, and then the proper solution may or may not arrive like 20 years later after lots of arguing between politicians.
The Portuguese are similar. "Desenrasque" being the word used. Albeit, as Tyler said, the procedure used mimicked pretty well what was needed, since a pathogen and radiation have similar dynamics.
we live by the gambiarra, we die by the gambiarra
A very close translation for gambiarra is Jerry rig, although that is way more exclusive to physical engineering solutions
the english version of the term is probably something like "fly by the seat of your pants". original source is because really old airplanes did not have all the modern equipment and you had to rely on flash decision making/problem solving to figure out what is happening or what to do.
Kyle Hills' cover on orphan sources is always fascinating because orphan sources are so easy to accidentally use to injure others, and there are most likely way too many orphan sources to count
yeah, even looking at nuclear weapons there are hundreds of unclassified orphan nuclear weapons out there in the world-- location unknown or actuvely just abandoned sitting there. Let alone things still classified or civilian in nature. definitely scary stuff.
There was a recent radiological incident in my country, Australia. A truck lost a capsule of Cesium 137 in the middle of the desert. A few thousand kilometres of road was shut down to essentially look for a needle in a hay stack.
when was the year of this incident?
@@andygaming69 2023
I'm not sure which channel it was, But I recently heard of that incident mentioned somewhere on RUclips..
And the wacky thing is that they FOUND it.
@@gemfyre855 Helps when the thing you are looking for literally broadcasts its presence lol.
Having worked for the civil defense, i have only had to go to a radiological call once...
A car that was transporting 6 used and 8 new sources for use in cancer treatment had been hit by a semitruck, with all 14 sources having been lost in the accident, having been flung into the nearby shrubs.
Luckily, all but 2 of the capsules had survived with at most a few dents while staying sealed, and the two that had it worse was only giving off tiny readings within a meter or so of the container. So it was pretty easy to get them into new transport units, and we only had to clean up a few buckets of topsoil where the containers landed before no longer getting any readings beyond background radiation. So all in all, a pretty lucky escape, with everything being dealt with by the book and with minimal cleanup...
He did follow up with the CNEN about the source. That's the Brazilian agency. He was sounding alarms where you should. But the agency didn't have the power or authority to break the court order. Basically, 4 people died, hundreds sick, and a city destroyed. Because of greed.
Yep! Tragic.
As someone who has worked in brazil, Due to the unstable government, A brazilian court has near ultimate authority. As such even the brazilian equivalent to NEST could not move on it without a second court order. Such an order can often take 4 to 6 months to obtain.
@@toucan2227 I worked there for 20 years as a teacher, in a small town called Benjamin Constant on the western border. The reason the federal court has so much power is the 6 major power reverses in 150 years, from part of the empire of Portugal, to an independent kingdom, to a republic, to a dictatorship, to a republic, to a dictatorship to a democracy... and the three federal elections I was able to follow (not citizen, so not vote in), all three had problems with the voting machines in our area. Twice we had 100% voter support for presidents with 45% in the polls. I understand, Brazil is the senior state in South America... but no, politically unstable is still polite.
Greed where motherfucker that guy just drew a cross on his chest and gave it to his daughter to eat
@@toucan2227Oh but Brazil was totally unstable back in 87, a year after the dictatorship ceded power to the civilian people, massive changes in it's structure were happening, bureaucracy was at it's highest, you can't say it was a stable country back then at all, you sure know that these were happening.
I got to drink lugol's iodine solution in school a couple of days after Chernobyl (Poland was the only country that distributed iodine to children fast enough). I remember it tasted like hell and it made my stomach hurt. Small price to pay for being the only country in that part of the world that didn't get a large increase in thyroid cancers among children after Chernobyl.
Shout out to Poland!
I take a small amount of Lugol's every week because of where I live. Hawaii. Bikini Atoll and then Fukushima is why.
@@rey3472 Ehm. You might want to look up the half-life of Iodine-131. If some event released as many atoms of I131 as there are atoms in the entire observable universe, you can expect the last one to decay after around 6 years.
@@rey3472Seems like overkill for the same background radiation levels you'd be experiencing anywhere else on the planet.
@@Mare_Man You have not eaten fish or consumed foods grown in Hawaii have you? I do not call Strontium, I131 or Cesium in food background.
A friend of mine and his coworkers at a radiation monitor company in the late 1970's dropped a cesium calibration source and the plastic carrier broke, releasing the tiny source somewhere into the room. Of course they were calibrating radiation monitors so they tried to search for the lost source using those monitors. They failed since the monitors they had weren't that directional and the building was brick which was naturally radioactive. Their team lead informed them that "they HAVE to find it". After bringing in a more directional radiation detector they eventually did find the source under a heavy metal piece of equipment. So a good ending overall, just some lost productivity.
If it took that long to find the source then it won't have been hazardous anyway. Regardless, glad it was found
2:40 honestly if I saw something that looked like radiation glow like that I'd start panicking
Any subtance that emits heat and/or light with no apparent source should be assumed dangerous, and left the hell alone
My daughter put a whole series of glowing handprints on her bedroom wall. But it was fluorescent effect, not radiation.
That's a really interesting point you mention about how the glowing attractiveness of the caesium could also have played a role in getting the problem before the authorities quicker. Great reaction, thank you for your insight
I found Kyle through his "Half Life histories" videos, streamer I watched reacted to one of his videos few years back and I was hooked. He has a lot of science related content that is well researched and less clickbaity than a lot of mainstream science channels that report on aliens every week.
Irradiation may not be contagious, but contamination should certainly be treated as such. Especially water soluble compounds that can be absorbed through the skin.
This was fascinating! I always wondered why the cesium salt glowed blue, and you answered that right away. That the "sweating" of the cesium was due to ingestion or inhalation, and the use of Prussian blue to treat it, was also stuff I didn't really know about this. This answered so many questions I had about this incident. Thank you so much for doing this reaction.
The young girl made me cry, ngl. Innocent seeming fun leading to a painful death by something she knew nothing about.
like a child who dies from playing with fire.
There’s a channel I’d like to recommend called “Plainly Difficult”, who has covered several nuclear and radiological accidents.
I just came here to say this. Plainly Difficult covers a lot of accidents involving less covered applications of nuclear materials, such as medicine and food irradiation
@@solid-swank He does a good job too
For a few years my Dad the radiologist treated cancer patients using radiation from tiny pellets of cobalt 60. I played with lead cylinders that they’d been shipped in: one was bare lead, another was lead thickly coated with dense if rubbery orange plastic that I didn’t try to remove. I used to have a promotional keychain from Atomic Energy Canada Ltd., a fat disc of Lucite with embedded pellets the size and shape of their cobalt 60 pellets but obviously of some harmless metal.
The tininess of the pellets and the thickness and weight of the lead made it obvious that cobalt 60 needed to be used with extreme care.
Dad couldn’t take the stress of so many of his patients dying despite the gamma ray treatments and his boss took over that duty and let Dad go back mostly to diagnostic radiology.
Where my friend worked they sent them to stress management workshops every 90 days. She said the patient's stories really got to her, she only did it for a couple of years.
I love hearing about these things from the perspective of someone who works/has worked in a related industry. One topic I'd like to suggest is the story of the Radium Girls, and radium-painted clocks in general.
At the time my dad was visiting the city and he said that it was worse than the covid because most people didn't know anything about radiation at all, so they thought that everyone that had contact with someone that had contact with the cesium would die
I was looking forward to this video. By the way, your Goiânia pronunciation was flawless.
You cannot equate a Geiger Müller Tube with a scintillation counter. The latter measures not only the impulse but also its strength. In this way, the isotope can be determined fairly precisely.
Yes, but it took 30 years to invent a probe for it that could sense alpha radiation. The scintillation instrument could do that; in fact, it was the only way to sense it.
Congrats on your 200th video. You've really come a long way. Can't wait to see the next 200!
Iodine 131 has a pretty short half life, though.. A little over a week. Cesium 137, though, is 30 years. So it's the primary medium-term hazard. AFter a few months, Iodine 131 will be neutralized.
I love watching Kyle Hill and have been watching his videos for quite some time. I am a huge science geek and a retired middle and high school teacher. It's nice to see that there is so much that he says is correct. I am glad to add you to what I am watching.
Brazilian here, your pronunciation at portuguese-brazil was very close to native or at least native with minor foreign accents. Congrats on that, we certainly feel honored to your efforts on that!
If you're up for doing a longer video, there's a subtitled interview with Anatoly Dyatlov reflecting on the Chernobyl disaster on youtube.
Brasil here. This is something we still teach in schools to help us spread the information about safety with regards to the unknown and also to introduce concepts of radiation, waste disposal and contamination
Though this kind of documentation was not exactly my cup of tea, I very much appreciate your expertise and clear information on this chain of events. Thank you very much for educating your audience and sharing your knowledge!
This very similar incident also happened where I live, in Thailand, but it was solid source, not a powder, so it was contained a bit quicker. But the sad thing is, it happened again last year, but with a much smaller source, people also not understand how exactly radiation works, the panic set a bit of setbacks to the area affected. But now they are recovered.
I was just doing a fundamentals of radiation course for our local county first responders and we talked about this very structure!
27:02 im pretty sure he *does* means radioactive, not contaminated. This was radioactive powder, dust, it they like considered it all radioactive as the powder had been on people's hands, moved to stearing wheels, seats, excreted, moved through the air in ventilation. They likely considered everything that had been in contact with this powder radioactive since powder likes to spread a lot.
Id like to suggest explosions and fire channel. Guy is funny in a very nerdy way. And it would be great to see your reactions to. Tiny grain of sand punch a fist sized hole in a can. Can Test!
The scintilator is capable of detecting alpha, beta, neutron, and gamma unlike most Geiger counters
You should react to Kyle’s video on the Lia radiological accident! It’s super fascinating. Especially how the ”cleanup” was handled:)
Remember: 137 to calibrate the radiation equipment, 133 for the clocks.
I wonder if this story was the inspiration for the House episode where the son of a Scrapyard guy is gifted a plumb bob looking metal object that turns out to be radioactive.
Nice!
You should do a video on the Ciudad Juárez cobalt-60 contamination incident
You'd like that.
This is a very good video
*Natural insects with strong defense mechanisms* Don't touch me, I'm brightly coloured as a strong warning!
*Natural trees and fruiting flants* I'm brightly coloured to encourage you to eat me as part of my naturla life cycle!
*My primitive monkey brain seeing glowy eldritch magic dust*
I can't tell if yummy or deadly?
I'm from Goiânia, and I don't know what people from here have with this radioactive scrap medical things, but I know that at least for 3 or 4 times this almost happened again with scrappy medical equipaments here in the state of Goiás - but I guess that, specially the last one, for happened during the political elections season, it doesn't got into the main news stream -.
Also I took my drive leasons in front of that full concreted house where the thing have been opened, the neighborhood is normal with the live going on, and then suddenly an full empty place.
I wasn't born when it happened, I even didn't knew practically nothing about it until some years ago from youtubers that even doesn't lives here. it's also threated as an "okay, anyways" type of thing by people who lives here.
another nuclear "accident" Kyle hill coverd that was intresting is a video called "The Lia Radiological Accident - Nuclear Bonfire" well worth checking out
Yes. A very good video
21:07 Question if you see this!
I recently watched your reactions to the Chernobyl series. You seemed to be pretty insistent that there was no risk to the pregnant mother being by her dying boyfriend inside the plastic touching him. You basically said once they got his contaminated clothes off and cleaned him off he wasn’t at risk of irradiating people near him and that the plastic was likely to protect him from infection as a burn patient.
However here in this video you agreed with the fact that some of these patients who ingested some some of the Cesium would reintroduce contamination and therefore radiation into the stadium and her immediate surroundings.
Cesium is also one of the isotopes that are produced from fission of Uranium and therefore Chernobyl right?
So isn’t it possible firefighters in that heat could have ingested some of the Cesium by drinking water around the highly contaminated building/fire or by licking sweat of their lips (honesty there’s probably a handful of ways they could have ingested some of the isotopes while on-site….. especially before they learned of the radiation
So couldn’t there have been a legitimate concern that the firefighter could have sweat/excreted some of that contamination and therefore even if the risk was small it would be prudent to not allow the pregnant women to touch him?
I heard you in the Chernobyl episode and really learned a lot from that dispute with the show you made. However seeing this.. it bring it back into question for me.
Could you explain if I’m wrong with this interpretation please? Thanks ahead of time!
Thank you for your insights and experience. Another nuclear disaster that has always haunted me is a USSR debacle that makes Chernobyl look like a church picnic. Just came across this video: "Kyshtym Mayak: The 2nd Worst Nuclear Disaster in Soviet History" by Simon Whistler on "Geographics" channel.
Speaking of iodine-131, it might be interesting to your audience to discuss patients that have been given it for thyroid cancer and may be released to the public if the dose is expected to be less than 500 mrem
There are lot of orphan sources incidents.. it's crazy.
OMG! I just realized you look and sound a heck of a lot like Drew Lynch ❤ No wonder your jokes are on point.
There is a graph on the Chornobyl Disaster Wikipedia site that shows what cesium-137 can do. On the graph, it shows all the major radioactive species and the fractions each contributes to the overall radiation burden. It shows that Cs-137 passes up iodine-131 about 60 days after the accident and becomes the majority contributor after 120 days. Today is 100% of the radiation. The uranium and plutonium that are present don't even make the graph, and won't get to a majority position until about 300 years hence.
The point to be made late in the video about the difference between inherently radioactive and contaminated is that only neutron radiation can activate other materials. Neutrons are created only in a lab, near an exploding nuclear weapon and inside an operating reactor. The cesium could not activate anything else, but it certainly could and did contaminate it. All the damage done in the town was done by that quarter-pound of dust.
What Kyle's saying about the blue glow having such an impact on this tragedy is true. Certain colors and patterns have a huge role in our evolution and survival and it's so easy to take advantage of that. For instance, seeing a shiny red can be an indication of sustenance. We have this instinct from berries and blood from animals our ancestors relied on for hunting. Now that instinct causes people to flock to murder scenes or the nearest McDonald's.
Perhaps worth a mention that Cs-137 has a physical half-life of 30 years and a biological half-life of 70 days. It can also be taken up by plants which is why there's been so much topsoil removed around Fukushima.
For sure if it glows in the dark keep well away however it might just be inexplicably warm and a very serious life threatening hazard.
I'd love to see you do a video on Dr.Strangelove!
I live in the northern area of brazil, literally in the amazon area, where Henry Ford built two cities modeled after rural michigan (lol), when I was 9 or 10 (2000 or so) I remember seeing on the tv that one of the x-ray machines was abandoned inside a hospital built by Ford in the 1930's, mentioning several times the goiania tragedy. Eventually they recovered the unit, but not long after that the hospital caught fire and was completely destroyed.
Whenever someone talks about nuclear safety in brazil this is what people use as a counter argument. Specially older people, they were very impacted by this event.
The Fordlandia story is fascinating and one of Ford's few failures. And I did laugh when I learned they tried to make the locals eat yucky bland American food in a stuffy closed in cafeteria and it didn't go well. You don't mess with people's food.
@@angelachouinard4581 Yep, and the military had to intervene, we call it the "Pan revolt". Northern brazilians are very particular about their food. I've been to Fordlandia also, but in this case I was talking about Belterra, the second city founded after Fordlandia failed. If I remember correctly they built the city in 1932 or so. It's far closer to urban areas with 500k+ people, so an orphan source would be terrible for the area.
@@djrbaker1 Orphan sources anywhere is not good. Even though I was born in America I am not fond of American food. I had friends who imported hammocks from Brazil and learned from them how great Brazilian food is. My sympathy was with the workers.
those were poor guys deep inside Brazil's interior, they had no clue of nothing about radiation, the hospital comited a heinous crime akin to biot3rrorism by letting this stuff around, it reminds me the lack of care with nukes being left around during cold war
hey i want to recomend a video called "the most painful death ever" by wendigoon. i think this video would be right up your alley and I would love to hear your opinion on it.
I'm not normally sympathetic to people but the kids getting sick really hits me in the feels... it's an actual tragedy.. :-/
The kids didn't ask for it. The adults had a duty to protect them and failed. I have sympathy for the kids, but not the adults. Sure, most people don't have to worry about radiation on a daily basis, but those guys were scrappers. How any of them thought it was a good idea to disassemble things they didn't recognize is beyond me; how any of them thought it was a good idea to bring the mystery stuff home with them is even worse.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Scrappers who were probably scrappers because it's hard to make a living on what your mind is capable of when you're not already fairly well off and highly educated. Going around collecting metal objects no one wants anymore is a low-education-level-"needed" way to make a buck. Even in the US, you'll find unlicensed people illegally stripping copper wire out of old abandoned houses that don't belong to them, or stealing metal plaques or statues in hopes they can find someone unscrupulous who will hand them good money for that metal. The way I see it, trying to make money off of informal metal collection is often an act of low key desperation--it's something you do when the effort of finding and holding down a regular and reliably paying job is too hard to be worth trying for, in comparison to the risks of collecting scrap.
Could they have been smarter about it? Sure, but I also factor the poor information availability of 1987 in moderation of that criticism. Nuclear tech is still a specialized knowledge to this day. And there was no consumer internet. They _couldn't_ have randomly stumbled on informative YT vids on random topics or websites back in the day that would make them worry about the dangers of an unknown substance. Especially when there were probably many other unknown substances they'd come across in their lives that were no problem. And there was no Google to ask "what does it mean if a substance glows with weird blue light?"
You know, even I struggle imagining what that world was like (where the sheer breadth of knowledge that can be found on the internet and in mass media today just wasn't available) even though until my teens I fully lived in that world. You had to know where to find the right books to read and spend time manually flipping their pages hoping you found what you were looking for, or seek out the right hard to find expert to ask. I used to be so incredibly jealous when I went to someone's house and they had a full encyclopedia set on their shelves. _All that information they can look up any time they want!_ I would think. Now I'd only go looking in a full encyclopedia set or scholarly book if I was doing something where the general internet's consensus on a question was too incomplete or poorly sourced to trust. Information availability really is just so fundamentally different now, and it's hard to remember what it was like living with a giant knowledge hole that most of the time you just shrugged at while making your best guesses.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826if one doesn't understand the concept of radiation, then they won't connect the dots. I have a great deal of sympathy for everyone involved. Beyond tragic...
really sad what happened to the little girl
Imagine you dealing with something unknow and having no backups or quicker actions to solve it, and get sick and sicker day by day because of that. It's an imaginable terror. I'm from Brasil too.
Wasn't the deal with the firefighters at Chernobyl that they were highly contaminated, not just that they had received very high doses of radiation? They spent hours fighting the fire at ground zero without breathing apparatus in the smoke and particulates. Would whatever stayed in their lungs not be sufficient to make them radiation sources to some degree?
Dunno enough to say for sure but it may be that the particular flavor of radiation on the particles they were inhaling couldn’t penetrate back out through all their flesh to affect someone else from inside their body.
Not really. You need absolutely massive amounts of radiation to activate other materials (making them radioactive). We're talking about a "inside of a nuclear reactor for years" dose of radiation.
@@Tryss86 I wasn't talking about activating other materials-- I was asking about the already-radioactive pulverized or vaporized debris that was in the air from the explosion and fire. Basically, would enough of that have remained in their bodies (lungs, thyroid, skin pores, etc.) to make their bodies radiation sources to an appreciable degree.
@@ShapeshiftedCow Could be, though given how much trouble they went through to stop airborne contamination and animal-carried contamination, I would think that it would be more threatening than that. it could also be that whatever traces of fallout that stuck with them wasn't concentrated enough to be dangerous to anyone but themselves, which wouldn't matter given the direct doses they received--they were dead anyway.
@@michaelbenson5677 they probably were heavily contaminated externally. I believe their clothes are still highly radioactive and have been sitting quarantined for decades. I think it’s common practice when treating that kind of exposure to aggressively scrub off external debris and the outermost layer of skin that would have been directly in contact with those particles - and it would make sense if the medical personnel doing so were wearing protective gear, and all the supplies that came in contact with the patients were promptly disposed of as radioactive waste. But yeah, I don’t think those firefighters would last long either way.
Hi! I love your videos. My admiration to people like you who know this stuff and knows how to explain it to those who understand nothing about it like me 😂 seriously my 🙌👏 to you.
Also I saw your videos reacting at the hbo series and I wanted to share my perspective about it. I loved the miniseries they always tell that is fiction, it's not a documentary but they try to portrait of course the reality of that disaster(s) (both the accident and the URSS existing...i speak spanish so we tell them URSS. Don't recall the english term but i think it's similar) but i think by showing certain scenes like that radiation could be contagious or something like that it is on purpose with the purpose of showing how people knew nothing about radiation at the time...like people watching from the bridge and saying it's beautiful and stuff that is real but it shows how little we knew as humanity about this stuff we know now...i don't think they show that stuff because the producers or writers thought that radiation is contagious but to show how scared people was (and they should be) like we were scared with covid for example. We didn't know anything. Obviously I'm just comparing this two things just in the way that when something is new and wr don't know nothing we do things that are unnecesary and some people didn't do things that WERE necessary like masks and vaccines for some people...we now know a lot about it but always learning as I guess everything changes and new things come across and you have to be updated in whatever you do. So just wanted to share my opinion about the show. Of course it has its faults but i personally loved it. But understand that people who are dedicated to some area see a show about it and want to punch the writers lol like my mom who was a doctor watching house 😂😂😂😂
Even if they didn't know anything about radiation, wouldn't they at least think that this was some type of chemical? Just rubbing unknown substances on your body and letting a child play with it?
Loving the reaction videos, you should check out the videos by Plainly Difficult his channel started covering nuclear accidents.
Don't steal, kids.
Nobody stole, the site was abandoned
I remember learning about this as an undergrad.
11:45 i would be scared of glowy stuff like that
A maybe better comparison than hydrocloric acid might be hydrazine......... imho ;)
I know this story and the blue glow was one of the reasons it fascinated the people who interacted with it.
18:30 - We in the west shouldn't be shocked to know those firefighters had no such procedures, and would not have been told about the danger, even if their dispatcher had known. The secrecy and disregard for human life present in Soviet nuclear operations (and all industrial culture) came to its inevitable conclusion.
drawing a cross on chest with glowing powder... this "religion over science education" lunacy needs to stop, worldwide.
My man, if you're going to "react" to every video of mine and use the footage in its entirety, I'm going to have to start claiming. I'd appreciate anything transformative here.
Idk if you have watched any of his vídeos, but every vídeo he brings up his years of work experience as nuclear eng, it's not uncommon to him show diagramas and explaining what it is and how it works. Even in more comic videos he does the same. I'd say that's pretty some somewhat transformative.
To be fair, in comparison to other channels this guy at least understands what he's reacting too and isn't just sitting there making faces or talking out of his ass. If you wanna go after someone, go after the brain drain live streamers.
This is highly unexpected. I didn’t realize you would be this sort of person. He links and gives you the proper credits and tells people to check you out. You just lost a sub that’s really disappointing
Got a sealed source health physics question for you: Ir-192 (~ 10 Ci) is used for internal brachytherapy. It’s a sealed source (special form). Do you think it’s possible for some of the beta particles to “boil” through the capsule or is only gamma getting through? Asking because there was an industrial incident involving this same isotope, but greater quantity, and the skin burn looked like a beta. exposure
Radiation shielding is mitigation, not prevention. Beta particles are electrons, and so incredibly tiny - while the majority of them will get blocked by appropriate shielding, some will still pass through. You can even see this with a cloud chamber - it takes a lot of shielding before you stop seeing infrequent beta wisps (though if you wait long enough, you probably still will). Now, the question of whether that would be enough to cause a burn really depends on the source and the shielding. I would be inclined to say it would be very unlikely, unless there was some sort of design failure - either the wrong source being put into a container, or the container being improperly built/designed.
@DEATHBYFIRE09 I this case, these Ir-192 sources are screaming hot, like 100 Ci. The stainless steel capsule is pushed into a small hollow brass tube. I don't really consider either of these as shielding though. But I think you are right, some beta particles will get through and combined with the massive gamma energy it would cause a burn if touched by the skin for a time. How long, I don't know 😕
@@DEATHBYFIRE09 The thing is, though, by the time the electron fights its way through to come out the other side it has lost its kinetic energy, and without that it IS no more than an electron.
Chubbyemu has a good video about a father giving his son a cool looking metal pendant, which was a radioactive part of some equipment, and the result is well bad.
Your voice is much, much louder than the videos.
What would be the isotope you would least like to meet in person
If someone is sweating out a radioactive substance, wouldn't they be dangerous to be around? I ask because you have said that radiation sickness isn't contagious, but this seems like a time when it actually was. Technically, it's not the radiation sickness itself that was contagious, but the contaminated sweat. Maybe contagious isn't the right word, but being near someone who is sweating out radioactive substances would obviously be dangerous in a similar way to being near someone with a contagious illness.
Don't underestimate cesium-137. Cesium-137 is the only remaining substance from the Chernobyl fallout in Germany today that plays a role:
"Foodstuffs from the forests in the parts of Germany that were particularly affected by the Chernobyl fallout in 1986 - in particular the Bavarian Forest and the areas south of the Danube - have a higher level of contamination. There, forest products such as some edible mushroom species and wild boar meat sometimes still have caesium-137 levels of well over 100 becquerels per kilogram. In wild boar, well over 1,000 becquerels per kilogram, and in some cases even more than 10,000 becquerels per kilogram, are possible. In other regions (e.g. Northern Germany), the activity levels are much lower because of the lower deposition of radioactive caesium." [Bundesamt für Strahlenschutz]
Salve from Brazil
After Chernobyl Ceasium 137 was found in the feed of cattle in Wales.
lesgoo, finally
A lot of radioactive material doesn’t glow it’s a large misconception.
I mean, to be fair, fae dust would likely have similar issues...
How are remains of patients treated with permanent seed brachytherapy handled post mortem?
I found one study out of Japan. Small sample with most prostates retrieved prior to cremation. Cremation is the rule over there.
No idea what they did with the retrieved organs.
Or what is recommended when dealing with natural burial. Or embalming.
Also, the father of the little girl had the most contact with the cesium and didn't died from that, there are a whole lot of strange theories, such as the fact he drank a lot, indeed, the narrative around all that mistery stuck deep into people all around the country
Anyone who's ever read a grimdark fantasy novel KNOWS that fairy dust is something that can kill you... xDDDD But then, those "fairy tales" aren't for children, exactly... You wouldn't want your 6yo reading about Harry Dresden... xDDDDD
So the blue is radiation ionizing air/atmosphere; I assume it's another instance of cherenkav radiation, is it from cavitations in the air left by highly energetic particles moving faster then air can fill back into the gap causing the particles to stabalize themsselves off of particles infront of them releasing energetic short wave photons like water based cherenkav radiation?
This accident shows you that humans are descended from magpies.
do they teach the people about that in the schools today?
the tragedies of the past should be taught to avoid another disaster.
As a Brazilian I'm totally ashamed of this event, but not for reasons that our mainstream media talks about it, I mean, a thief invaded a abandon dentist clinic, he breaks in, steal the X-Ray Machine and proceeds to take the radioactive element and these people want to make drama and defend a criminal. They want to make the dentist the one to be blame when it was a thief that end up victimizing his own family in the process. He took the radio-activate element and literally gave as makeup to people.
I'm embarrassing by our MSM, by our judiciary that follow them and are still trying to turn the criminal in the victim and the victim in the criminal.
The victim is the dentist that got rob and accused of a crime, the criminal is the dirty thief that took the X-Ray Machine home and try to dismantle. The other victims are the kids that got expose but the perpetrator is the thief not the dentist.
A total absurd!
Lmao didn't think this ideology would pop out here, he was not handing it out as makeup, he was a scalper that found some funky shit
Yeah entering abandoned property and dismantled equipment is bad, but he was far from a thief poisoning the town bad, and I haven't heard about anyone saying the dentist was the bad guy, there's barely anyone to be called bad guy here, maybe the authorities who neglected the early warnings
The state government knew about it for a year. Direct your blame there
30:02 because as that would'nt give them any money they just didn't cared that much só they let It there
Gotta be honest, if I find a strange glowing rock or material I’m definitely going to be tempted to touch it. How else am I supposed to meet aliens in my lifetime or get superpowers?😂
I’m joking of course, but it would definitely peak my interest. I’ve seen bioluminescent waves due to algae bloom and it’s certainly a mesmerizing experience. I’d be far more careful if something inorganic was glowing without an apparent energy source.
That Orphan Source would be at risk of being turned into a dirty bomb.
why did i read this as the gondola accident
a radioactive poop almost is funny except when know how damaging radiation can to to out side then ramp it up cuz nada to limit the damage....
Wait why was the toilet paper contaminated? How did that happen?
The manufacturing plant contaminated maybe
ignorance and superstition has the highest tax of them all. life. some people would say "you shouldnt be so hard, they did not know what they are dealing with..." and i would say... THATS EXACTLY THE REASON YOU SHOULD NOT DEAL WITH IT. PERIOD!
Breaking it down to it's most base part. This happened because somebody was poor.
Hello Tyler, I wanted to ask how can I calculate the amount of americium needed in a beryllium dome to cause +5°C increase in temprature and how do I go on to calculate the amount needed for other elements, thank you in advance for answering
If they “knew” this material was there a year before and stopped the tracks of the owner trying to track down said material, it then lends itself to the possibility that “they” wanted this disaster to occur, maybe to test its destructive qualities upon the “lowly” working class population who they deemed fit for such experimentation. This is my conspiracy theory. Just because something is a conspiracy theory, doesn’t mean it’s not true. I say this as allegedly.
Absolutely not. That happened solely by sheer ridiculous bureaucracy, incompetence and greed. The former hospital owners were fighting for the lot deed to sell the land and cash in. The government officials just didn't do their job, they didn't care. The owners and some people from the local government tried to cover their tracks just to not be liable for any damages. Some crazy conspiracy? All was money, nothing more than that. Occam's razor.
how do you keep managing to cut out bits of video
The machine should have had the number to call printed on the containment housing along with a warning symbol. If I saw a thing glowing blue with an ethereal light when I got home, I'd run to the other end of the street and call... who? The police? I know police officers, they wouldn't recognise that as anything to worry about. The ambulance service? There isn't a number you know of to call. Especially when you know that you'll be exposing whoever you call as a first responder to something dangerous. Today, I'd Google who to call. But this was in the 1980s, you couldn't Google that stuff back then. This was preventable. If it had a giant skull printed on it and a phone number to call? People would have called the number.
They've actually created new warning symbols recently, because a lot of people didn't recognise the radioactivity trefoil symbol, and kids nowadays LIKE pirates, so a skull and crossbones attracts rather than repels them. The new warning is red and has wavy lines coming out of the trefoil, and a person running away (as well as the skull and crossbones).
I'm very confused as to why you advocate against the term "orphan source" -- the term strikes me as very well aligned with how you describe the situation.