The Vocal Ranges of Mike Portnoy & John Petrucci
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- The somewhat obscure background vocalists of Dream Theater (both baritones) have actually shown some range.
This was a joint venture between RoyalCrimsonTheater and myself, in response to my own James LaBrie video.
Mike Portnoy: C♯2-G♯4(-G5)
0:00 - First sustaining an F♯4 then singing quite well up to G♯4 in Transatlantic's cover of "A Salty Dog"
0:28 - Scaling his way up to falsetto E5s (starting on G♯2) in the backing vocals of "Prophets of War"
0:44 - A falsetto F5 during a live drum duet with Richard Christy
0:54 - Singing B4, E5, then G5s while recording the backing vocals of "Prophets of War" (all of which he apparently came up with on the spot)
1:10 - Speaking to E2 in "Repentance". This was a flub up on my part, this is actually Corey Taylor. Sorry about that. Mike does actually hit E2s in this song, just a different part of it.
1:15 - The awesome spoken rap of "Prophets of War" bottoming at D2
1:45 - An outtake from the recording session of that song dips down to C♯2!
2:15 - Sorry about the quality on this one: Resonant spoken C♯2s from "In the Presence of Enemies Part 1" with the lead vocal removed
John Petrucci: C2-G♯4(-D5)
2:51 - Singing up from G2 in his rendition of "Wither"
3:08 - Sung E2s in the background vocal of "Burning My Soul"
3:23 - And speaking down to strong C2s while imitating his psychotic RUclips alter ego
3:34 - Surprisingly pleasant lines around C♯4 from "Wither"
3:50 - Singing up first to F4, then smooth G♯4s from the same song
4:39 - This one ain't pretty: rickety F♯4s, and then singing (for lack of a better term) up to B♭4 in falsetto from his rendition of "The Spirit Carries On"
5:29 - During a vocal warm up, John sings full E and F♯4s, then sustains falsetto C♯5 with a trill to D5 (with a very lovely falsetto C♯5 from Jordan Rudess in between)
Additional thanks to Danerage and TheTarantinoManiac Видеоклипы
John's vocal demo of Spirit always makes me laugh so hard, it's beautiful.
Me too! I'm almost die by laughin'
John singing Spirit Carries On sounds just like when I (and probably most DT fans) try to sing along to James on that song.
John could have been a vocalist actually, obviously not for the high pitched vocals, but he sings pretty well on the lower pitches.
He's autotuned.
@@lightningbolt3585 Only on wither, I think
Now do one for John Myung.
ShatteredWindowpane Bridges in the Sky intro
@@qwantinmoe6215 Tuwan throat singing - is it him ? :-))
Instrumental break in Home :)
i feel bad for JP when he goes up high
3:35 Wow, is that John's voice? It's beautiful
You forgot here the only two songs in which JP actually sings alone.. The Silent Man and The Ministry of Lost Souls...
Wow, I didn't know he was singing in the Silent Man !
timestamps?
"(with a very lovely falsetto C♯5 from Jordan Rudess in between)"
Chuckled
John Petrucci has very nice voice, suitable for ballads style, 3:36
Amazing !! Thanks for compiling this!! Petrucci's voice is quite interesting as rock voice.
I reckon royalcrimsontheater deserves a thanks too.
Also, I take it this means we concluded that that one shouted C5 by Petrucci was falsetto? There were a few other low notes by Portnoy that we never went over conclusively, like "Honor Thy Father", "As I Am" and "Octavarium". He also hits another G♯4 in "Take The Time" live.
0:37 Matt Bellmay is that you?
The voice at 1:10 is actually Corey Taylor, not Mike Portnoy. Check the "Chaos in Progress" video clips available on RUclips.
3:35 John Petrucci ❤ really wish he sang more, absolutely love his voice
I've notewatched Rudess (my favourite musician/person/God of all time), sorta. His few studio tracks never leave a range of about A2-D4, so I keep an eye on his interviews and youtube channel, and I've heard at least spoken Bb1s (as well as a possible G#1) and a sung F4 or F#4, can't remember which, from him singing 'happy birthday'. Definitely a standard baritone (high when he was younger), he's lower than any of the other DT guys but his 1st octave notes aren't resonant enough for a bass.
@Thetarantinomaniac Considering I mentioned him in the first paragraph...
Don't remember the other notes.
I only chose songs that showed significant parts of his range for this. I don't know what you mean by "alone" though, since he only does background vocals and the two times he has sung lead on DT tracks are featured here.
Winery Dogs live in concert
Full Winery Dogs Concert at Dog Camp (2nd show)
Then as you undoubtedly know, it is far easier to develop strong highs out of your natural comfort zone than it is to develop drastic lows. Especially bass lows. You would also know that amplification doesn't change everything, and that natural resonance can still be measured even if projection is obscured. Especially when listening to someone like Valo scale downward into the first octave with no voice break.
@Spydrfish No, it was a joke outtake that was included on the B-sides.
Oh, and cool video! I think Portnoy's actually similarly placed to me, although since he's a good 25 or so years older he has stronger lows, but I bottom out just above him. Petrucci's definitely pretty low, he's really improved as a singer in his time with DT as well (although he's clearly not a natural).
@zorland876 My bad. But yeah, I brought them up at one point; we just never got around to pitching them.
Mike P should sing more solos! Salty Dog and Conquistidor are his best. I know it must be difficult while drumming, but LOVE his voice.
I didn't say "lead vocals", I say "alone".. Alone: only in those two songs I mentioned he sung without doing only the backing vocals of James, or without doing a counterpoint nor with Mike.. You can clearly hear him there, in contrast to the rest of the songs, or in songs like "Fatal Tragedy", "Blind Faith" or "Prophets of War", where he sings with MP.. Besides, those two songs you said he sung lead, aren't official versions..
Sorry for my english, is not the best, but I think you get my point..
He's clearly autotuned in Wither...
You didn't notice the low harmony actually singing E2s?
This must be adressed to : it is corey taylor who is talking at 1:10
1:00 ive been going around screaming this🤣🤣
Oh okay, I got ya. Huh, I guess those are the ones where he does the backups by himself.
was 4:40 honestly in the album? Hadn't listened to it in a while, honestly sounds kinda bad there...
You want bad, listen to a live performance of The Trooper on RUclips.
So are these guys. In my experience, classically studied vocalists don't seem to be terribly knowledgable when it comes to pop singers. Not a slam or anything like that, it's just a completely different form, and the guidelines used to judge classical singing can not be applied the same way to contemporary styles. By that definition, Axl Rose and Geoff Tate are tenors.
So having light (thin) highs completely offsets having the strongest, darkest, most resonant lows of any modern popular singer?
By that logic, you would consider Peter Steele and Ville Valo to be tenors.
@Thetarantinomaniac Oopsy.
PLEEEASEE!! SOMEBODY TELL ME!!! IN THE FINAL OF THE VIDEO, JOHN IS "SINGING" A SONG, JUST BEFORE MIKE LAUGHS AND SAYS "HORRIBLE..." WICH IS THE NAME OF THE SONG? PLEASE SOMEBODY ANSWER ME
It's in the description...
zorland876 it doesn`t say wich song is!
Kevin Martinez the spirit carries on
Kevin Martinez" then singing (for lack of a better term) up to B♭4 in falsetto from his rendition of "The Spirit Carries On" "
u know i have an album with songs that i`ve never heard from DT or JP and that song is in there.
1:10 is Corey Taylor
Jimiakos Yep, s’my bad.
I'm pretty sure the Petrucci vocals for Wither are heavily autotuned.
Dream Theater Karaoke ;)
The opposite is true as well, that baritones can "hold high notes". Plenty of baritones (high baritones really) have better high notes than some tenors. Of course as you know in classical schooling baritones singing tenor range is not encouraged, whereas in contemporary music there is no restriction.
Yes, and Valo gets to low notes with much more ease than most baritones, and has a harder time with high notes. The same with these two. You seem to believe that anyone with clean or light highs has to be a tenor.
@anqipiqi Read the description...
Am I the only one, who waited for solo at 3:07?
@MightyStreetFighter Yup. Autotuned as hell.
Hah.... Would have never seen this coming, they're fine singers just didn't expect any notable Range.
Is John petrucci is 3:28 is A1
PUT THE NOTES ON THE SCREEN!
dude, figure it out lol
Ok, explain then
I don't hear anything above G#. "a SAL-TY DAW-aawg"
What's your problem?
I'm pretty sure LaBrie is a baritone too. The thickness of his vocals make it that way. He just has a high vocal range like how Freddie Mercury is.
LaBrie is a high tenor.
it is terrible, but in the behind the scenes video you can see him laughing as he does it. he obviously doesn't think it sounds good
it was a demo, it was meant to show Labrie what notes to hit. To make it more accurate he autotuned it.
Mike goes up to G#5 on New Millennium at Budokon. I'm sure he could sing falsetto higher though, so in my opinion it's kind of silly to make these "the range of" videos because there's never any reason to ever sing above a certain point. Maybe they should be named "the performed notes of" or something.. hmm haha
There is absoutely no reason to ever think they were ever tenors at any point. That's just incredibly silly.
the E2 in burning my soul shouldn't count. petrucci is using a talkbox. his moth only acts as a modulator while the guitar acts as a carrier.
Is called chest voice dude, and mixed with some throat you get to sound deeper than what you really are. As I said, there are types of tenors, some with darker colours some not. You've heard tenor Kauffman? the so called "baritenor" fakes his voice, since you listen to his real voice and is quite light, but he sounds sooo dark and deep that people actually think he is a Bari-tenor. You don't need that much brain for faking your voice that way.
Two vocal range videos in one? I do not approve of this one bit.
Portnoy has a decent singing voice. Petrucci on the other hand is...LOL
Portnoy's highs are better and Petrucci's lows are better.
@MlKEPORNTOY Meh... Portnoy's one of the best drummers, but in singing LaBrie > Portnoy. And even Portnoy knows this.
JP is so autotuned
JP is autotuned. He could not have been a vocalist.