I have been watching your videos for a long time now and I enjoy it a lot, even though I am not a Norse, but a Slavic polytheist. But the reason for my comment is that I love historical linguistics and I would like to correct one thing in this specific video. Snorri did not call the first of the Norns Weird. He could not, as he did not write in Modern English. The name Urðr is just the Old Norse word urðr (fate) used as a proper noun. And the Modern English word weird is the direct cognate of this word. That means that they both evolved from the same word in their common parent language. In this case it is the Proto-Germanic word wurdiz (fate). So the word Weird as the name for the Norn in your edition of the Prose Edda was not used by Snorri, but by the translator, who decided to use the Modern English word instead of the Old Norse. So to be clear, urðr is the Old Norse word, wyrd is Old English and weird is Modern English. He did not do the same with the other two names, because their English cognates today are only dialectal and would not be understood by everyone. So just for fun, if you wanted to use the Modern English cognates for all three names, it would be Weird, Worthing and Shild. In Standard German it would be Wurt (M.H.G.), Werdend and Schuld. Note that I used a Middle High German word for Urðr, because modern Standard German does not have any direct surviving cognates. I am very sorry for such a long comment, but I just love linguistics. I hope someone will find this interesting. I have been interested in your work for at least two years and I find it very enjoyable and helpful. So I would like to thank you for everything you do as a creator, especially when I know how frustrating research can be.
You know...I think that Shakespeare in Macbeth originally referred to the three witches in play as the Wyrd Sisters, and I think Shakespeare was thinking of the Saxon word "Wurd". So, there is definitely a Germanic origin to the concept of the Wyrd. Everything we know about the word Wyrd was written after the fact, so it's original intension might be somewhat lost...but, like you, I believe strongly in fate, and the symbol of the Norse looking web, whether it be ancient or modern, is a great representation of the word, and the Norns in general. I guess I am less concerned about what is "verifiably ancient" practice or symbol as I am concerned about how we apply these things to our modern practice. Obviously...I don't want to adopt any practices or symbols that were defiled by groups using the symbols to prop up something evil (like how swastikas were highjacked by the Nazis), but I think the Wyrd's Web symbol is pretty awesome :)
You are doing great work Jacob brother I am learning a lot on my own journey and the great wisdom and knowledge the allfather has blessed me with is out of this world but I keep on studying
As a shaman. I believe if you draw in the dirt with a stick and let your emotions go. I Drew this symbol and it made me draw other symbols of are culture unknown to me. And good insight to my future. If you want to know more about my experience don't be afraid to ask 😊😊
One of my professors in my linguistics master's program, in our History of the English Language course, said that the Wyrd sisters in modern English would be: 1. *Is* (because wyrd means "what IS", "that which has turned/happened, from Wurdiz, "to turn, become") The "already becomed" 2. *Becoming* (from werþaną, changing to Old English Weorþende "to become" with the suffix -ende that was the Old English suffix meaning the same as the -ing suffix that was borrowed later from the Norse), and 3. *Should* because it's what *should* come to pass given what already "is" and what is currently "becoming". So, the future *requires* the past, and doesn't happen regardless of it. In other words, it's all 'bout them layers :)
I use to draw this symbol and Hagalz repetitively along my notebook papers in school taking notes. Over and over filling up pages with designs that very closely resembled some of what I Later on in life realized, I was drawing runes without knowing it.
Let us not forget that Shakespeare spoke of the weird sisters. Listening to the spirit of things is like standing in a canyon; it is wise to hear one's voice echoed back, for ingaard and Utgaard cannot exist without each other, and the memories of others about our people can be as important as the memory of ourselves. By this we find confirmation that wyrd is indeed connected to the norms. The wyrd is tied to Yggdrasil as we are told in its symbol itself; for it is a vision of Yggdrasil itself: we know this because Hidden within it are the 18 wisdoms of Odin. By this we know, to understand wyrd is to unlock the key to wisdom. Your life is not about you; your life is about your relationship with existence.
I absolutely agree! The fated path is absolutely the reward...I have never felt so guided and dually in control of myself! I hope to share my knowledge of discovery of all that has led me here one day and be a part of the hall in one way or another!🙏🖤
Its not Norse, its a modern symbol that appeared in the 90s, but to know that you have to listen to a legitimate expert or actually go to a library and do some real actual research. Especially for historical esoteric knowledge you cant just "look around on the web" because of the high proportion of just completely made up shit that people portray falsely as something from a historic tradition.
Thank you for the presentation. I would argue not all knowledge is academic and there is often a tendency to academically debunk lineages of practical knowledge one does not have direct experience with. There are many genuine lineages of knowledge and wisdom practices which have been preserved and handed down via generations retained within families and tribal cultures that have not been nailed down as academic. What you are describing is a symbolic depiction of the Orlog in old Norse (Wyrd is anglo-saxon). The symbol represents the infinite 'web' of life and you can see clear parralels to it via other sacred geometric forms such as the 'flower of life'. All the runes of the younger and elder futhark are derived from this orlog. Each rune has a definitive phonetic resonance and hence can be 'called' out and 'drawn' out from the Orlog yet they are all intrinsically interconnected with it (crystalising into defined individuated forms via the underlying infinite creative waveform). I would argue failure to see this interconnectedness of the runes is failure to understand the archetypical qualitative phonetic nature of the runes.
I was taught wyrd (weird) is the unexplainable movements and connections of the world around us. It's the term we use to describe the moments when we notice movement from behind the curtain of reality. Like we're all actors on a stage and a stage hand brushes too close to the backdrop; it's noticeable but we're in the play and we aren't able to fully recognize or acknowledge it. I find people who need exact, definable, written definitions and explanations have a very hard time with it because it's essence is not definable. It's in this world and not of it.
My understanding of Wyrd is that it is a power outside of conventional thought- the Norse warrior confronted wyrd on the battlefield. It’s mentioned a lot in Beowulf. It was thought that engagement with wyrd usually led to the death of the hero. In my own experience, wyrd is encountered on the fringe of conventional life-there is tremendous freedom and and space but generally it is frightening from the conventional point of view and it is impossible to return to the ordinary comforts after one experiences wyrd as the background reality.
I think a symbol be it just created or many moons past, all it takes is the creation and belief of one and it’s then given power. So does it matter if it’s historical? Yes to some but it doesn’t take away from it regardless. I like to think of those deja vu moments as another string that connects us and forms the web of Wyrd. The more connections we form the stronger and more complete the web becomes. And in my opinion there isn’t just one web but multiple ones that connect making various ways to our fates. Yea we’re a bunch of Wyrdos but that’s a good thing.😉
I paused it at 8:38 and read the top paragraph. It gave me a flash of the scene in the Lord of the Rings, when Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli encounter Gandalf the White.
Will there be more info on Gatherings where they will. I am a mud duck Minnesotan and I am interested I have the Jesse Bylock’s books on Old Norse. They are pretty good. It sucks that I am the only person that is trying to speak the language
As English speakers we do not assign gender to nouns and so when we are attempting to understand how gendered nouns affect subject-verb agreement and assigning different adjective forms based on the gender of the noun and how all that affects sentence structure and ultimately how it is translated. Etymologists study the known structural language patterns in conjunction with push and pull factors of migration and they study how these changes affect language use as they spread to different geographic regions and interact with those varied cultural forces. It’s quite fascinating to me, but without a background understanding of how etymology works as a research tool, its indeed difficult to understand how they reach the various conclusions they come to. I would imagine that looking back at the information on how they reached the conclusion that the Wyrd might have some correlation with the Norns, and then just seeing if this information comes from academic peer reviewed sources that are considered reliable in the field of etymology. If it all checks out, I would say that you could trust that conclusion has merit. I enjoy your videos so much. Keep up the outstanding work and Blessed be!
Great video, Love hearing about these different topics. I see fate in much the same way, some things are meant to be but its our choice on how to get there. I remember when you first released that video of the norn fountain and even just watching it it looked and felt like a fated moment for you. I congradulate what you and the folk have accomplished its truly inspiring.theres no better gift then friendship and wisdom, and you have given both to many👍😊
I'm sorry I really don't see alot of people on social media and big people that is in Kentucky but where I live in Kentucky and you said Kentucky I freaked out 😂😂
Also I find it strange that you said you don't really feel any connection to Wyrd but the longtime symbol you've used for this channel is Wyrd, missing a set of rungs.
Hey I'm wondering about joining this religion, and it connects to my ancestry but I can't find a patron god for myself I like knowledge but I'm also a fighter so I can't find a god that fits me.
You may find as you connect with your beliefs and your ancestors that you do not choose a patron deity- the deity chooses you. That being said, it appears that Thor was the most commonly worshipped God by the average folk, not Oðinn.
Hello, I’m pretty new to this channel but I just wanna say I appreciate everything you do. For a while I’ve been interested in the Norse and especially since I decided to watch the show Vikings, I’ve felt really connected to and interested in the Norse. Since then I’ve read a couple sagas (the Vinland ones specifically, I’m Canadian so those ones are important to me I guess) and in general just learned about the Norse and the viking age as much as I can. I’m not really sure yet if it’s just a historical interest or whether it’s something I actually believe in, but either way, your channel has done a lot to teach me and help me try and figure things out so thank you and keep up the great work!
Thank you Jacob for this information. I'm going to look further into it. I remember coming across another video on this symbol where it actually was broken down piece by piece, but I can't remember who it was or how long ago. Anyway u peeked my interest. Thanks again. 😊
I have been watching your videos for a long time now and I enjoy it a lot, even though I am not a Norse, but a Slavic polytheist. But the reason for my comment is that I love historical linguistics and I would like to correct one thing in this specific video. Snorri did not call the first of the Norns Weird. He could not, as he did not write in Modern English. The name Urðr is just the Old Norse word urðr (fate) used as a proper noun. And the Modern English word weird is the direct cognate of this word. That means that they both evolved from the same word in their common parent language. In this case it is the Proto-Germanic word wurdiz (fate). So the word Weird as the name for the Norn in your edition of the Prose Edda was not used by Snorri, but by the translator, who decided to use the Modern English word instead of the Old Norse. So to be clear, urðr is the Old Norse word, wyrd is Old English and weird is Modern English. He did not do the same with the other two names, because their English cognates today are only dialectal and would not be understood by everyone. So just for fun, if you wanted to use the Modern English cognates for all three names, it would be Weird, Worthing and Shild. In Standard German it would be Wurt (M.H.G.), Werdend and Schuld. Note that I used a Middle High German word for Urðr, because modern Standard German does not have any direct surviving cognates.
I am very sorry for such a long comment, but I just love linguistics. I hope someone will find this interesting. I have been interested in your work for at least two years and I find it very enjoyable and helpful. So I would like to thank you for everything you do as a creator, especially when I know how frustrating research can be.
You know...I think that Shakespeare in Macbeth originally referred to the three witches in play as the Wyrd Sisters, and I think Shakespeare was thinking of the Saxon word "Wurd". So, there is definitely a Germanic origin to the concept of the Wyrd. Everything we know about the word Wyrd was written after the fact, so it's original intension might be somewhat lost...but, like you, I believe strongly in fate, and the symbol of the Norse looking web, whether it be ancient or modern, is a great representation of the word, and the Norns in general. I guess I am less concerned about what is "verifiably ancient" practice or symbol as I am concerned about how we apply these things to our modern practice. Obviously...I don't want to adopt any practices or symbols that were defiled by groups using the symbols to prop up something evil (like how swastikas were highjacked by the Nazis), but I think the Wyrd's Web symbol is pretty awesome :)
Don't forget the opening scene takes upon "the heathen", where we connect the word heathen too.
Word magick, to defile the old ways.
Wonderful video, as always. Thank you for the continuous insight and bit of knowledge.
You are doing great work Jacob brother I am learning a lot on my own journey and the great wisdom and knowledge the allfather has blessed me with is out of this world but I keep on studying
As a shaman. I believe if you draw in the dirt with a stick and let your emotions go. I Drew this symbol and it made me draw other symbols of are culture unknown to me. And good insight to my future. If you want to know more about my experience don't be afraid to ask 😊😊
One of my professors in my linguistics master's program, in our History of the English Language course, said that the Wyrd sisters in modern English would be:
1. *Is* (because wyrd means "what IS", "that which has turned/happened, from Wurdiz, "to turn, become") The "already becomed"
2. *Becoming* (from werþaną, changing to Old English Weorþende "to become" with the suffix -ende that was the Old English suffix meaning the same as the -ing suffix that was borrowed later from the Norse), and
3. *Should* because it's what *should* come to pass given what already "is" and what is currently "becoming".
So, the future *requires* the past, and doesn't happen regardless of it. In other words, it's all 'bout them layers :)
I use to draw this symbol and Hagalz repetitively along my notebook papers in school taking notes. Over and over filling up pages with designs that very closely resembled some of what I Later on in life realized, I was drawing runes without knowing it.
Let us not forget that Shakespeare spoke of the weird sisters. Listening to the spirit of things is like standing in a canyon; it is wise to hear one's voice echoed back, for ingaard and Utgaard cannot exist without each other, and the memories of others about our people can be as important as the memory of ourselves. By this we find confirmation that wyrd is indeed connected to the norms.
The wyrd is tied to Yggdrasil as we are told in its symbol itself; for it is a vision of Yggdrasil itself: we know this because Hidden within it are the 18 wisdoms of Odin. By this we know, to understand wyrd is to unlock the key to wisdom. Your life is not about you; your life is about your relationship with existence.
I absolutely agree! The fated path is absolutely the reward...I have never felt so guided and dually in control of myself! I hope to share my knowledge of discovery of all that has led me here one day and be a part of the hall in one way or another!🙏🖤
I dreamt Sedna making a weave like that.
Its not Norse, its a modern symbol that appeared in the 90s, but to know that you have to listen to a legitimate expert or actually go to a library and do some real actual research. Especially for historical esoteric knowledge you cant just "look around on the web" because of the high proportion of just completely made up shit that people portray falsely as something from a historic tradition.
Thank you, wanted to say the same!!
Thank you for the presentation.
I would argue not all knowledge is academic and there is often a tendency to academically debunk lineages of practical knowledge one does not have direct experience with.
There are many genuine lineages of knowledge and wisdom practices which have been preserved and handed down via generations retained within families and tribal cultures that have not been nailed down as academic. What you are describing is a symbolic depiction of the Orlog in old Norse (Wyrd is anglo-saxon). The symbol represents the infinite 'web' of life and you can see clear parralels to it via other sacred geometric forms such as the 'flower of life'. All the runes of the younger and elder futhark are derived from this orlog.
Each rune has a definitive phonetic resonance and hence can be 'called' out and 'drawn' out from the Orlog yet they are all intrinsically interconnected with it (crystalising into defined individuated forms via the underlying infinite creative waveform).
I would argue failure to see this interconnectedness of the runes is failure to understand the archetypical qualitative phonetic nature of the runes.
I was taught wyrd (weird) is the unexplainable movements and connections of the world around us. It's the term we use to describe the moments when we notice movement from behind the curtain of reality. Like we're all actors on a stage and a stage hand brushes too close to the backdrop; it's noticeable but we're in the play and we aren't able to fully recognize or acknowledge it. I find people who need exact, definable, written definitions and explanations have a very hard time with it because it's essence is not definable. It's in this world and not of it.
I thought Wyrd was Anglo-Saxon beliefs not Norse
It exists in both, but the word "wyrd" is old english.. As you said NOT norse... The symbol is new.... But i like it!
Destiny is all, uhtred son of uhtred moment🤣🤣🤣🤣
My understanding of Wyrd is that it is a power outside of conventional thought- the Norse warrior confronted wyrd on the battlefield. It’s mentioned a lot in Beowulf. It was thought that engagement with wyrd usually led to the death of the hero. In my own experience, wyrd is encountered on the fringe of conventional life-there is tremendous freedom and and space but generally it is frightening from the conventional point of view and it is impossible to return to the ordinary comforts after one experiences wyrd as the background reality.
Wyrd mean wyrd life, Its a binding metaphor
If you can get your hands on it, the Well and the Tree is the definitive book on the subject.
"the way of wyrd" is a very good book about ethnobotany and the rainforrest.
I have always thought wyrd meant " weaving". or to weave.
I think a symbol be it just created or many moons past, all it takes is the creation and belief of one and it’s then given power. So does it matter if it’s historical? Yes to some but it doesn’t take away from it regardless. I like to think of those deja vu moments as another string that connects us and forms the web of Wyrd. The more connections we form the stronger and more complete the web becomes. And in my opinion there isn’t just one web but multiple ones that connect making various ways to our fates. Yea we’re a bunch of Wyrdos but that’s a good thing.😉
Amazing! I was looking forward to your next upload!
Could symbol be referred to the 3 wise women who control one’s fate? The symbol itself looks like a web of fate.
I paused it at 8:38 and read the top paragraph. It gave me a flash of the scene in the Lord of the Rings, when Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli encounter Gandalf the White.
Will there be more info on Gatherings where they will. I am a mud duck Minnesotan and I am interested
I have the Jesse Bylock’s books on Old Norse. They are pretty good. It sucks that I am the only person that is trying to speak the language
As English speakers we do not assign gender to nouns and so when we are attempting to understand how gendered nouns affect subject-verb agreement and assigning different adjective forms based on the gender of the noun and how all that affects sentence structure and ultimately how it is translated. Etymologists study the known structural language patterns in conjunction with push and pull factors of migration and they study how these changes affect language use as they spread to different geographic regions and interact with those varied cultural forces. It’s quite fascinating to me, but without a background understanding of how etymology works as a research tool, its indeed difficult to understand how they reach the various conclusions they come to. I would imagine that looking back at the information on how they reached the conclusion that the Wyrd might have some correlation with the Norns, and then just seeing if this information comes from academic peer reviewed sources that are considered reliable in the field of etymology. If it all checks out, I would say that you could trust that conclusion has merit. I enjoy your videos so much. Keep up the outstanding work and Blessed be!
Great video, Love hearing about these different topics. I see fate in much the same way, some things are meant to be but its our choice on how to get there. I remember when you first released that video of the norn fountain and even just watching it it looked and felt like a fated moment for you. I congradulate what you and the folk have accomplished its truly inspiring.theres no better gift then friendship and wisdom, and you have given both to many👍😊
I think it would make a really cool window frame for like an elven castle.
I'm sorry I really don't see alot of people on social media and big people that is in Kentucky but where I live in Kentucky and you said Kentucky I freaked out 😂😂
Yeah there's around 30-40 active pagans in our community in Kentucky. Even more in Tennessee
How do I come to the spring gathering
I hand carved Wyrd into my blot bowl.
Also I find it strange that you said you don't really feel any connection to Wyrd but the longtime symbol you've used for this channel is Wyrd, missing a set of rungs.
Hey I'm wondering about joining this religion, and it connects to my ancestry but I can't find a patron god for myself I like knowledge but I'm also a fighter so I can't find a god that fits me.
Hi Marshall. Having a patron God isn't necessary atall. But Odin is the God of both wisdom and warfare, so may be fitting if you still wanted one
@@richb3802 thank you for your insight, I will look into Odin
@@marshallhenderson7906 Your welcome mate
You may find as you connect with your beliefs and your ancestors that you do not choose a patron deity- the deity chooses you. That being said, it appears that Thor was the most commonly worshipped God by the average folk, not Oðinn.
Hello, I’m pretty new to this channel but I just wanna say I appreciate everything you do. For a while I’ve been interested in the Norse and especially since I decided to watch the show Vikings, I’ve felt really connected to and interested in the Norse. Since then I’ve read a couple sagas (the Vinland ones specifically, I’m Canadian so those ones are important to me I guess) and in general just learned about the Norse and the viking age as much as I can. I’m not really sure yet if it’s just a historical interest or whether it’s something I actually believe in, but either way, your channel has done a lot to teach me and help me try and figure things out so thank you and keep up the great work!
Thank you Jacob for this information. I'm going to look further into it. I remember coming across another video on this symbol where it actually was broken down piece by piece, but I can't remember who it was or how long ago. Anyway u peeked my interest. Thanks again. 😊