"It's Going To Be A SH*T SHOW" - Is It Time For Dangerboy Deegan To Go 450's?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Jacko Strong speaks on Haiden Deegan and what the sport looks like when he goes up to the 450 class.
Jackson Strong is the man of the hour after his win in FMX Best Trick at this years X Games in Ventura. The win puts him as one of the all time greats of the sport. Jacko is from humble beginnings, growing up in the rural town of Wagga Wagga Australia and spent his life honing his craft on his custom built compound. Away from FMX, Jacko has a passion for aviation literally building his own planes. He is by far one of the most interesting blokes I've ever had on the podcast and this was an awesome episode.
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Why everyone trying to rush him up to 450? Let him get his championships first and grow into a man first!
Jett didn’t get to grow and become a man first lol
@@davidallen2682jett won titles and was forced to move out of the class deegan still has 2 years if he wins a coast in 2025
I think people wanna see him ride a 450 in SX on opposite coast because it would be massive in accelerating his training
If deegan continues to progress the way he is he’ll be ready for the 450s by next summer. Deegan is the one guy that will actually race Jett aggressively. He’s going to be a problem in the 450 class and Jett fans look nervous. Otherwise why not just say, as a Jett fan, come on up and race the 450s. It’s always “he’s not going to be on Jett’s level”, yet deegan keeps proving EVERY HATER wrong the last year. Why wouldn’t he continue that? lol
He is a man now.. 250 means nothing to a guy like him. 450 asap. He wrecks everyone I'd bet. Prive me wrong. 1 year from now he will be twice as good again.
Deegs is a beast. So rare to see a kid so driven and has the balls out talent to just crush those late moto lap times. Plus he's hard as nails. When he crashes he doesn't quit because in his mind he knows he can still get to the front. Danger Boy is the real deal.
Don’t get why people hate on Deegan..
Sure he had a better life growing up because of his Dad but money doesn’t buy talent and work ethic he’s gonna be one of the greatest by the end of his career if he keeps it up.
Yes he will be
Because they’re basing his (Haiden) character off the videos they watched of him. They think he’s a cocky arrogant rich kid & they’re jealous of him. Of course they won’t admit they’re jealous of him, but if you debate/question them on why they hate him, you can tell they’re jealous.
Some of it is trickle down from Brian. Plenty of reasons to dislike his old man.
I hate on him because he's a dick. I like his riding, I don't like the kid.
There is a huge difference between wanting to win and actually doing whatever it takes to win.... including holding the throttle open when everyone else is on the brakes.... at the end of a 30 minute moto. I enjoy watching his riding progress and confidence grow. It's a lot of fun! I think he should move up to 450 after he has won all the 250 hardware... however long that takes is completely up to him or whoever can beat him.
You’re not wrong, but look at all the other guys he is racing, and look who is winning 450 races. They got out as fast as possible, meanwhile most of the guys in the 250 class are still there chasing a chance at a title, and KEEP getting hurt. Deegan is amazing on the 250, but I feel like he may get too comfortable, to strong, over ride the bike, and end up on the ground. And then he could work really hard to try and get back to where he was at, and get slammed again. The 450 has a way of humbling you in a good way is the point I’m trying to make!
@@hhracing1022I only disagree his dominance has been outdoors in supercross he didn't have the pace every week like Jett did I think once he shows that week in and week out dominance in both supercross and moto wins the championships it's time to move up
@@walterAnders fair point
Needs to win a championship first and defend his title will be on 450 in 2026 earliest! Dudes gonna change the game for sure!
Yeah don’t know why people wanna rush him up, I’m sure him and Star are ok with staying on the 250. He can ride all the 450 he wants at the farm 😂
He’s moving up in 26.
Jacko is the best guy. He is just a quality human being. A great cook to 😂
Jackson seem to genuinely love Hayden, like he’s willing to throw blows for the kid.
Yeah, I don't think you get to be close to that family without a certain level of loyalty.
He’s been with brain for years now. Makes sense
Man he watched Haiden grow up as Brian did Jacko practically. If you knew your history from old vhs you'd realize he's family to the deegans damn near.
Idgaf if you like the kid or not....hes got IT. whatever 'it' is, he has it.
I grew up a poor kid in central Iowa. My family wasmt into moto, they hated it. Id have to ride my 10speed to the track in Adel, just to watch the races.
Didnt get my own bike until i was 16, and didnt race until i was an adult. But from the time i was 12-16 i spent a lot of time at the track.
Deegan and Pederson were there and since i was buddies with the race promoter i had a chance to be in the pits before and after gates were opened.
One year for the Dallas County fair, i approached Brian, asking for an autograph and it didmt go well for me. The culture was different back then, and a lot of racers thought it was cool to act like punks, even to 12 year olds.
The point of the story is this: we all change, we all make mistakes in life, and we all are given the opportunity to become better people, and even better examples to the next generation.
Enter Haiden Deegan: that youmg man seems to ALWAYS make as much time as he can for little kids. He is always signing, smiling, and taking photos if time allows.
Brian, well done bub. I was never a big fan of yours after our encounter, and that rolled over into Haiden as an amateur.
After seeing how Haiden interacts with the kids, ive done a 180. Last year at Charlotte for the playoffs i sat there, from a distance and saw for myself what that young man does for the fans.
Some things can not be purchased. Integrity is one of those attributes.
Being fast on a dirt bike is great and all, but can you put the same amount of effort into the fans? Thats what makes superstars.
There have been lots of fast guys over the years who've had the personality of a russet potato, it sure is nice to see a young man with the talent, the work ethic AND integrity.
Whether Haiden wins, or not, he has a HUGE fan base.
If you've spent this much time ready, it should be said, half the reason im writing this is just to put it out there into the ethos.
Ive held a chip on my shoulder towards Brian, and it might have beem warranted but at the end of the day, i can seenthat brian has instilled a different attitude and approach into Haiden.
Just goes to show, we can all grow and evolve.
Cool story and put very well I know exactly what you mean about the Brian thing and I’ll bet Brian even regrets that being a prick thing when he was younger! And I’m sure the kid has been told to be not like I was , did anyone see the jersey Haiden gave the kid of his back after the nasty flip at redbud and said it’s a little dirty ,lol
Man I hope Brian sees this comment. Heartfelt and honest.
Agree. Never understood the punk thing
@@markconklin5263yeah that was cool, he gave him the jersey then after said here you go, i almost died in it, it’s funny but also not
I think Haiden may dabble in a few 450 races next season to get a bearing on where he stands. I'd love to see him give it a shot if he can wrap up the outdoor title early. Has Haiden talked about learning lately? Nope, only that the other guys sometimes have good rides but they don't stand a chance. Whenever he makes the jump he will be the talk and the sport may take a huge jump.
😂 he won't touch a 450 until at least 2026
He already rides a 450 at practice and has done for over a year
@@michaelhoward7652not every single day though
He has talked about it lately though. Riding with Eli, at bamland, from coop, from Chad reed and so on.
@@user-gk8tv6yx6h he’s ridden at bamland? i knew he rode at moto sand box with kenny, with the reeds, and eli
Like he's saying man, we all talked shit when we were younger. I've destroyed keyboards how much shit I've talked. But as you grow up you realise everyone, I mean everyone of the lads lining up deserve massive respect. Love em or hate em they're the gods of our sport, and I'd kill to have a few laps with anyone of them on my local track
Not gonna lie Deegan rides a 450 like a champion and it fits his riding skill, if you watch when he was coming up to pro he had a few 450 races and he looks way more comfortable on that 450 but he is a maniac on the 250
he rode the 250 in those 450 AM races, he does ride a 450 from time to time in training though.
Jacko is one of my favorite riders of all time ...🙏🔥🔥
Its riders with innovation that sweep up the fans easily. Danger is that. Go hard, go fast, wing it.
I couldn’t agree more with Degan, he is hard working and puts everything he’s got into it. I can respect that but I do have a problem with his demeanor. I can overlook that personally and respect him as an athlete.
A million percent agree with this..can't wait. Next generation are characters an it's awesome
He is committed, determined and has that burning desire
I love how jacko defends danger boy. He deserves it cause he rides like he's one race away from complete failure. Like his family's mouths depend on it. I'll always be a Deegan and Deegan family fan!!!
exactly what james stewart said at a race this season on the broadcast, haiden rides like his life and family depends on it
Again I would like to say, dirt biking is the greatest sport on earth, if more of the general public got the opportunity to get to know the personalities involved if would be bigger than all other sports, especially in the motor sports world! Jocko is super awesome and I would love to help him build some airplanes!!! It’s a passion of mine as well!!
I’m happy seeing how competitive racing has been in both classes.
Winning feels so good! Being that dude is just who haiden is.
Jacko is on point 💯💯💯 Exactly what we all want 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I want him to stay on the 250 for a good while longer.
Danger is wide open and takes it to the flagged edge to just simply be a winner in a sport that’s physically challenging and not to mention earning his spot in a sport where his Dad has made such a name to live up to. Watching these videos they post he has morals and standards and seems to be a good person.
I agree with the comment below. Why push him to 450 even though he practices on a 450, give him a couple years on the 250, winning championships. In a couple of years he will be ready for the 450 and challenge Jett and the boys, but right now it would be a S*** show for him to go 450. He need to gain experience and strength before moving up. Keeping his training schedule and faith & family he will know when to move up. Don't push him. Right now I'm happy with his progress on the 250.
Deegan has barley been on a 250 for 2 years now... 2026 will be 250SX with his debut 450 in MX. 🤘
Well done boys. Good psychological profile/insights on young Deegan
Was just having this exact conversation today with the boyz. Can’t wait! I think Deegan will be racing him in next years outdoors.
He still has a few years in 250 before that. No rush.
Deegan would be lucky to break into the top 10 on 450
Looks almost ready ourdoors but i think a couple more seasons will be needed before he is ready for 450 sx. Needs to get those starts dialed though, basically guaranteed jett is 1 or 2 around the first corner.
The most gangster shit deegs could do is run a double header race while Jett is out. Race all 4 motos for the day and finish would be awesome to watch. With the big lead it would be somewhat risk free
If he wraps the title up a round early that would be cool to see at the last round
450 on MX next year. One more 250 season in SX.
Can’t even believe this is in discussion.. he still has a couple years in 250s yall
Next season will be last on a 250.
@@Image-X exactly a couple years
Hard work beats talent, IF talent doesn't work!
When thrill seeking is hardwired into someone, it's not about the money. It's almost not a choice, esp. when the means are there to thrill seek in an expensive sport. I can say that from personal experience.
Why is everyone trying to rush this kid he’s still learning
Excellent conversation
Should be back to back champion in sx and the outdoors then move to 450
Win every 250 championship until A.M.A. moves Deegan #38 Up. When the Deegan camp gets the itchy Race Daytona Supercross 450 style Enjoy the Time
If Deegan wins..... he will likely still go another 250 season. He is going to be a serious force though in his 2nd year on a 450.
Calling it now all yall riding jett and deegs wagon. Hunter is running the same pace with just such unbelievable ease. Hunta is gonna get this outdoor title and he’s going to go on an absolute tear…. Hunta 2025 watch
if hunter is running the same pace, why isn’t he battling chase more and winning overalls? why wasn’t he battling his brother more and not just letting jett “tow” him through on the track
If he goes to 450 now he will get boxed plz just wait till next year but he is ay gun rider and full support from Australia
What is a gun rider?
@@sam_s_means really good, it’s just a saying we use here in aus, another context is “he is a fun footy player”
if he gets the 250 outdoor championship this season i see him moving to 450 for the 2025 outdoor season.
Everyone's got an opinion not always the correct one but they have it.
I can tell you danger boy isn't as fast as Jett, he's just more reckless and that's how he's going to get hurt.
he will get better, if he improves like last year to this year, next year, and keeps doing that, he will be a beast
Fuck that yall will regret saying this when he comes into the 450 class anyways & want him to go back. He’s gonna be up there with the greatest by the end of his career. Guaranteed.
How about win a title first
He's already got a title. Smx title from last year. 250 will be his second
@@timw4369 That's not a real title, i don't care what they call it. This season will be his first.
@@OtisFlint regardless of what You think...
the AMA have Haiden Deegan as the first to win the SMX Championship Title already in the books.
@@OtisFlint So jetts smx title is not real as well right !
Smx title
He’ll go 450 for outdoors 2025
Sho is!!!
Yea he’ll be great
Deegs 450 gets multiple top 5s and maybe a win or two first year. Prove me wrong.
How can anyone prove you wrong?
I think he will find it is a completely different game in 450's .. I don't believe he would do nearly as well as 250 class.
What's going on with the race results. 2nd moto is the tie breaker. Spring Creek J Cooper went 5-3 for 3rd. Aaron went 3-5 for 4th and Anderson went 4-4 for 5th somehow. Shouldn't it have gone Cooper Anderson then Aaron with 2nd moto results? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought I knew how they came up with the overalls.
Haiden, Jett, Hunter, and Chase yoo
Haiden should stay on a 250 for another season or 2 win a couple championships
Let Deegan do his thing on the 250’s first , wouldn’t want to rush him up then him have a huge crash and risk major injury so young
No way. That would be dumb. Let him win two 250 championships, the. Roll to 450
He’s 17 I say let him be leave him alone let them work on there own even if he wanted to stay on a 250 another year
He’s 18 bra
Dangerboy is the new Valentino Rossi.
That fact these two think that deegan is faster then Kenny or chase is funny to me
Let’s your guests talk bro cmon. Quit interrupting and going on monologues. Other than that, awesome content
Hayden is going to be a multiple champion. He says it how ge sees it and is like a dog with a bone going all out to try and win each weekend. Greg 🇬🇧😊
2026 Haiden will storm the 450's and not b4.
100%, on the SML kickstart pod, i heard he’s negotiating a huge gear deal with two big brands that is a lot of money and a lot of years that could reach mainstream media
I said he should've went last year with Jett. I don't even care about the 250 championship
Ricky , Chad and bubba didn’t have personalities until after they retired . They were more boring than todays riders
Why rush it some guys stay on 250s for 4 or 5 seasons
I think a lot of people don't Realize is that Johnny o'mara trained Ricky Carmichael Now he's training jett and his brother , I don't that together and maybe Johnny O is the moto guru
ricky’s all about deegs you hear it in his voice since day one
Nope he needs to stay in the 250 class until he points out. He is only 18 move up when he's 20 or 21 years old. Deegs can ride a 450. And deegs is getting big as in bulking up to hustle that 450 around.
Nah, let him feast and build in 250 for a while... it's exciting for the sport.
Damn wasn’t he just on minis like a year ago… let the kid grow
Anyone else think that stewart wasted 04 being in the 125 class? I think if stew moved up to 250s in 04 he would've had less pressure to go out and try and dominate, 04 could've been his 3-5th season to get his feet wet.
I have a hard time thinking about deegan going to 450 until he wins a supercross title and defends it I don’t think he needs to rush into 450
But everyone is assuming degeen can ride a 450 like a 250.
because he can, theres a guy named eli tomac, he’s like second in all time supercross wins and sets the record for all time combined sx and mx podiums in 450, his riding style seems to be working pretty good for him, haiden will be fine
Deegan should stay in the 250 class for acouple more yrs,i dont agree with getting him on 450 asap
Eh, people just want to see Jett fall…lol
Does Jace ever know when to stfu and let the guest talk? I’ve tried and tried to enjoy his content, but he just talks over people so much to show how knowledgeable he is and how much he gets about the sport.
If he wraps up the title early I look for deegs to jump up to the 450 for a race or two…. He’s faster on the big bike.
Jace I love you, but let him talk lol you're talking in paragraphs and your guests can't give any input.
Haiden is faster on the 250 than Jett on the 450 Period
Calling it now, and I don’t wish this on him, but I feel like Haiden might sustain a serious injury because of how much on the edge he rides. Dude sends it every race almost every lap. It’s almost a miracle he’s pretty much only had one small injury at the beginning of this SX season. He’s had gnarly crashes already and gets right back up. I feel like it’s inevitable.
some people are just durable. he also seems to not panick when he crashes, resulting in him getting cleaner get offs and not getting tangled up on the bike
He already got injured before sx, broken scaphoid that needed surgery, only rode a few days before detroit
I don’t know how much on the edge he is really. Feel like we got too used to Jett riding like a robot nothing against it like him too but you get used to that and then watch Deegan he’s just all over the bike.
@@cshepard09 that's normal to him tho, just cause it aint to you dont mean anything
I’ve said the same thing. Big wad-up coming.
Hell no! Let him get 2 - 250 titles first.
Yea def not the move to move up now
He's not on a 250 now .
This is hilarious! HD38 won't even be on CS4 level, let alone the Lawrence brothers. Y'all dreaming if you think he would be out the front on a 450
Pump the brakes… let’s see him win add least one 250 Supercross title before we even mention 450’s
Gypsy on Brian’s payroll with the non stop talk about deegan
well, it’s deserved because haiden is the future and he’s pretty damn good on a dirt bike
He ain’t going 450 for another 2 years
The Deegan hater’s do not want to hear nor want to watch this video. Why? Because they’ll end up doing the same thing what liberals do. Cry & get angry. 🤣🤣🤣
Liberal here that's a deegan fan, don't need to make everything politically charged brother
Deegs hopefully will win 250 OD win the finals in 250 and move up to the premier class. The sport is so dangerous and the premier class pays better. No one cares about 250 championships. It is not worth taking the risk getting hurt for 4 years in 250's. Deegs will fly so high on the 450 he might not ever come down !!!
They are not gonna send him to the 450 without an SX title champ, no one cares about outdoors or the little 3 race thing they do at the end of the season that has a stupid points system. Pump the brakes
Absolutely not. 2 more years 250s.. no rush
Haiden deegan is the future goat listen to Carmichael listen to villo listen to stew he is comfortable on the edge just like ricky was!!! I dont understand the wanting of the downfall of deegan. Just enjoy the damn show
For what its worth (and its not much) I like the Haiden I see on the craigs page, which is how this guy describes him. But the deegan I see in the post race interviews isnt that, and it bothers me because it seems like an act, like his dad is telling him to be that way because thats what he did back in his day to build the brand, and its off putting. He is a hell of a rider though.
He’s selling his brand.. and doing it to the extent that no one else is. Why the sport and his following is blowing up. Everyone that’s followed him for awhile now knows he’s humble and good kid, but he has confidence and just playing mind games, and it’s working 😊
@@blayderosenberger4271exactly
He has dominated 5 races and he need to go up to 450. Lol
Why such the hard-on for a rich kid from Temecula anyway? Jesus dude, Club Rubber died decades ago.
Considering the interviewee watched Haiden grow up , I’d say that’s why he likes the kid. You fucking kook.
Look at his accomplishments year 2 at this point vs Jett’s at the same point, hes ahead of schedule, based on that. Not to mention his ride style is so fun to watch.
Why such the hate for a kid who's throat stomping 2x euro champs?😂 jesus dude. Just tell us you are miserable 😂😂😂
You should be excited that people care. Why question the love he gets when it's obvious. You sound jealous your favorite rider isn't in the same light lol. Just enjoy the sport and the riders. Get the hate out of your heart because no one deserves it. It doesn't matter if he's rich lmao. He works harder than just about everyone else.
@@thefujitafive1820 Jetts competition was a much higher standard than Deegan is facing right now.
No he's not ready for the 450 class. Maybe in a year or two
He still needs an sx title... No, he's not ready. I think he's ridiculous, and had real bad luck in the first sx race this season, but either way he's still gotta nab one before he moves up.
Noooo he's doing good outdoors yea but supercross he was clearly not even close to be the fastest rider week in and week out he needs more time
STFU with the "curse to be a millionaire's son" talk, as well as the "he's not doing it for money or fame". He's been groomed and hyped for this his whole life, and relishes the attention.
He definitely ain’t going 22-0
Neither did Jett in the 250's?
it’s not possible in 250’s, so many fast guys, sure one guy is dominate, but that one guy isn’t winning every weekend, 17-0 won’t ever be possible in any class of sx because there’s so many factors in supercross
Nope. Let him get some 250 titles other than smx. There is plenty for him to learn. Many good 250 riders, totle holders just wither in 450 class. Wether injury or just not quite the best guy that generation.