Astral Ring Team is starting to get their powers now. Sena and Thelema is basically the case of HoRb and HoS but cheaper (as HoS needed Pericles + Brick for DPS and Cosmic/DoS + SSword for Support). Also against Mobs Thelema support seems good, no more reset fest!
I love how part 2 valks actually feel like you are "playing" them as oppose to typing a sequence to watch a cool animation. Much more responsive with better physics
Love it! Her design and animations are superb. Also, that pinball combo attack in the support gameplay looked fun, and her Ult animation in the very last frames has doing doing "bleh~" with her tongue, which is a cool detail. That part of her is a lot like one of Mobius' splash arts, though actual Mobius doesn't stick out her tongue. Overall, she seems really great, though with her coming so soon after Senadina, how are we supposed to afford her? HOYO better give us some rewarding events xd
now that i noticed, i do like that thelema uses both kicks and hand movements for the whip control since i notice her whip is very tight, which causes the recoil that might actually hurt her, but shes using the kicks to counteract the recoil and redirect it to the enemy. very interesting details.
She stayed for 5 years, time for you to rest. Actually the longest Valk to stay relevant since released, for 5 Years, that's before HoT and BKE and both HoT and BKE got replaced first.
Okay, after seeing her in motion, this lady almost looks like she'd be a design of a main character in any other game. Her entire design and everything looks amazing.
wait howcome…i’m new and i got sena full geared and coralie for free but helia is just kinda sitting there should i be worried and step up my grinding game..
@@keoshuuif youre feeling competitive sure, Helia wep is probably a must pull for retention in Nirvana if youre just new its probably actually better to just get Thelema just because of Ice damage (if you havent built Ice team)
I will miss using HoR as my MECH Ice DPS, but the versatility on the new battlesuits make them very attractive. Not just Thelema, but it seems you can use Sena, Helia, and Coralie in any combo you want, situation depending. A couple days before the first Thelema teaser on bilibili, I looked at the choice box I had just earned and said 'FoV just replaced Fire DuDu, Luna just replaced HoT, but HoR is still the top MECH Ice DPS. Solid choice.' Apparently, Mihoyo said the same thing.
I cant believe i been using Herrscher of Reason for 5 years, idk if I want to replace her with Thelema. i invested her alot so its going to be painful to replace her
No one's going to bring up how the timer stopped during that middle phase of the Beast of Sacrifice boss? The timer doesn't even stop for some other both animations
@@bagongerwae2159 Her weapon active? So can she do the same during the transitional phases of other bosses? That doesn't really make much sense to me personally to make that a skill exclusive to one character rather than just having the timer pause during certain parts of a boss fight in general. And as much as I want the timer to stop during certain parts of a boss fight, I only mean during the animations for flair (Aponia's transition animation for example). The timer going during for mechanics makes sense since how fast/well you complete those sections is based off skill usually
@@bagongerwae2159mfw spreading misinformation online (edit: maybe you confused it with some character that have second signatures that give them time stop on ult for example, because they're old valks which didnt have them. new S valks pretty much always have time stop on long ults)
Are the big HP bars back, just for test server, just for bosses or....? Cause I'm mostly good with the new interface but the HP bars are painful. Yes even on PC.
Helia's signature weapon only boost damages. It doesn't have any sp, cd or similar kind of advantage. Sena, Helia, Thelema if against lightning/sd, then Thelema, Sena, Coralie if against ice.
i was unable to get sena :( but i'm very close to pity and i really want thelema!! is there someone else i could use with her alongside coralie? or would it be better to just use her with kira and sushang instead?
Will (for now) Thelema be playable with HoTR and Sushang/Kira? Debating on saving for her without having Sena or Helia gears, or get SS HoTR as main dps while part2 keeps releasing stuff and it's more clear if anything part 1 will even be worth playing onwards
Pls make some Thelema vs HoR scoring case if you can. Team composition is a bit hard to tell now with her. So should Coralie or Helia for the 3rd slot when Sena DPS and Thelema support? Are they better than LV + HoTr support for Sena?
Yes, but no if your talking about adv/newbie. example: adv supply its 100 pity and if you pull 20x and then a new adv supply come, the pity will reset to 100 and it will not be added to normal character supply
@@almondmilk8494 yeah more detail like this what i Heard, if Pity > 10 than Pity = Pity - 10. But if Pity < = 10 than Pity =Pity -1. So it means bad for you not to pull if you have less or same 10 Pity (CMIWW)
I have a dilemma...is it worth going for HoTr gear if I have HoO and HoFi 4/4 each? or should I just keep saving for Thelema since I don't have an Ice DPS built on my account and have been using Triple Support with Pardo, Shigure Kira and Sushang Edit: my HoTr is using Haxxor Bunny's weapon Turgenev TB and Fu Hua: Musician M
theoretically, herrscher of truth full gear is also a decent ice dps when fully geared, however i'm not sure how good of an idea is investing on an old valk in part 2
DPS híbrido com suporte que vai forçar o jogador médio a correr atrás de todos os rank S futuros? Agora tá explicado o plano maligno da parte dois. Se não ficou óbvio: eles vão ficar lançando personagens DPS/suporte que você precisa pegar frequentemente ou vai ficar defasado de uma versão para outra (o que antes levava anos para acontecer, um exemplo é a HoR que tá firme e forte até hoje).
sena is still good, and Stardust type wont be getting powercrept anytime soon. the game will give more teams to play with and be more skill based than $$$ based... if you dont think thats good then idk what to say
Reminder that this is beta v2 gameplay. Gameplay, effects and animations are not final.
Thelema translation here: rentry.co/selim74
People: “GG HoR”
Me: SHE STOLE THE YATTA WEAPON
Yatta has 6 weapons (fists, sword, spear, chains, greatsword and the BRICK) she's still very special
Astral Ring Team is starting to get their powers now. Sena and Thelema is basically the case of HoRb and HoS but cheaper (as HoS needed Pericles + Brick for DPS and Cosmic/DoS + SSword for Support). Also against Mobs Thelema support seems good, no more reset fest!
They killed it with her animations, VFX, & SFX, everything looks so good!
I love how part 2 valks actually feel like you are "playing" them as oppose to typing a sequence to watch a cool animation. Much more responsive with better physics
it sucks fucking dick, air combat in honkai is garbage
Pretty cool to see Hoyo mixing up the dynamic of support vs DPS more
Love it! Her design and animations are superb. Also, that pinball combo attack in the support gameplay looked fun, and her Ult animation in the very last frames has doing doing "bleh~" with her tongue, which is a cool detail. That part of her is a lot like one of Mobius' splash arts, though actual Mobius doesn't stick out her tongue.
Overall, she seems really great, though with her coming so soon after Senadina, how are we supposed to afford her? HOYO better give us some rewarding events xd
now that i noticed, i do like that thelema uses both kicks and hand movements for the whip control since i notice her whip is very tight, which causes the recoil that might actually hurt her, but shes using the kicks to counteract the recoil and redirect it to the enemy. very interesting details.
HoR : my time has come
congratulations on staying in the meta for 4 years we never forget you
She stayed for 5 years, time for you to rest. Actually the longest Valk to stay relevant since released, for 5 Years, that's before HoT and BKE and both HoT and BKE got replaced first.
Stayed meta since she got release
She was since her release, it's time for rest,
On the other hand I literally just got her like 2 versions ago 😑
if i dont get her HoR wont rest shes fully geared and sss xdd
I already liking her gameplay it gonna be painful not getting her
Yeah sadly I had to skip her since I spent most of my crystal on this patch lol. Hope the next Valk after her is way better!
as medical student, i hate how she pose, and what she did with her back.
Back bent like that will cause extremities paralysis.
...guess Martians are different from people of Earth biologically then
Honkai girls literally fight in heels, just built different
Here a thought they are fictional characters so really it not hurting anyone real
Honkai girls are built different
Her body is probably very flexible + she's a honkai character. They just build different
Okay, after seeing her in motion, this lady almost looks like she'd be a design of a main character in any other game. Her entire design and everything looks amazing.
i like the animation of these new characters , they aren't just close up to the face then big explosions like older animations are or in genshin.
AAAAAAAA SHES SO PRETTY I NEED TO HAVE HER
when Clara becomes independent of Svarogh and says: nahh now I'm a rebel
How good is she with Kira and Sushang compared to the Part 2 team?
asking the true questions here
Probably gonna be like HoHE team idk
I hope she'll be better than Hoe
Ngl the wolf boss looks so cute
🗿
YOO THEY BRING BACK BIG HP BARS?? LESGOOO
Day by day the feeling of Helia's weapon being needed is increasing 😨
wait howcome…i’m new and i got sena full geared and coralie for free but helia is just kinda sitting there should i be worried and step up my grinding game..
@@keoshuuif youre feeling competitive sure, Helia wep is probably a must pull for retention in Nirvana
if youre just new its probably actually better to just get Thelema just because of Ice damage (if you havent built Ice team)
Honaki imapct continueing to have to best mobile action combat system known to man
Ok so if Thelema is leader Coralie is the support.
While if Senadina is leader Helia is support.
I'm glad Coralie is not immediately benched.
She’s completely zany and Looney Tunes as well she’s amazing
I will miss using HoR as my MECH Ice DPS, but the versatility on the new battlesuits make them very attractive. Not just Thelema, but it seems you can use Sena, Helia, and Coralie in any combo you want, situation depending.
A couple days before the first Thelema teaser on bilibili, I looked at the choice box I had just earned and said 'FoV just replaced Fire DuDu, Luna just replaced HoT, but HoR is still the top MECH Ice DPS. Solid choice.' Apparently, Mihoyo said the same thing.
Clara is that you!??
I'm saving for her. Effective immediately. Give us enough time mihoyo. I'm begging you.
0:44 ok that’s pretty creative ngl
If you or your loved one was diagnosed with mesothelema, you are entitled for compensation.
currently saving for her, I cant wait!!!
Did you get it?
@@sovg yep!!!
@@ladd. How many attempts?
@@sovg you wont believe it but the first half pull attempt(i wish i took a picture but i got so excited)
Been saving for Luna rerun but might have to get her, her playstyle is awesome.
i really like the astral ring concept, i probably wont roll for her though, hoping [Wheel of Fortune] will have more characters in the future!
I wasn't sure if I was going to get her or SS Sena but now I am 💯 sure I'll start saving to get her when she drops ❤
dang she's so sick
The best synergy team for Thelema is Helia and Senadia with Songque. I knew it would make Thelema get along very well with Helia.
They finaly added a "haybale" monster for testing damage
i mature....
IM mature....
IM MAture...
IM MATURE.....
IMMMMM MATURRREEE.....
AHHHHHHHHHH
You are immature
How is she with other kira + sushang?
Not a great idea to mix new and old Valkyries ;-)
@@igorthelight Senadina works with Eden and Luna though
@@ClassMonitorFuHua and they work very well too beating helia + coralie
I cant believe i been using Herrscher of Reason for 5 years, idk if I want to replace her with Thelema. i invested her alot so its going to be painful to replace her
Yas yas come lt’s go ❤❤
No one's going to bring up how the timer stopped during that middle phase of the Beast of Sacrifice boss? The timer doesn't even stop for some other both animations
timer stop if I'm right is because her signature weapon active.
@@bagongerwae2159 Her weapon active? So can she do the same during the transitional phases of other bosses? That doesn't really make much sense to me personally to make that a skill exclusive to one character rather than just having the timer pause during certain parts of a boss fight in general. And as much as I want the timer to stop during certain parts of a boss fight, I only mean during the animations for flair (Aponia's transition animation for example). The timer going during for mechanics makes sense since how fast/well you complete those sections is based off skill usually
Thats SSS MA and timer does stop during transitions for SSS bosses and resumes when transition is over
@@bagongerwae2159mfw spreading misinformation online
(edit: maybe you confused it with some character that have second signatures that give them time stop on ult for example, because they're old valks which didnt have them. new S valks pretty much always have time stop on long ults)
She's so damn cute! I need her.
So do i need to get Sena for Thelema teams? Or is Thelema good without Sena?🤨
F.... "At S2" is always indicated in every description... Are you trying to say S0 is not that good and we should go S2?
Are the big HP bars back, just for test server, just for bosses or....? Cause I'm mostly good with the new interface but the HP bars are painful. Yes even on PC.
Never give clara dual blades and high heels boots.
damn bro my kuru kuru already getting powercrept
Holy what is her stellar outburst support thing??? Amazing
her ring is wheel of fortune iirc
Do I need to get helia signature weapon in thelema's team comp? (Support/DPS). I have all 3 of her Stigmatas.
Helia's signature weapon only boost damages. It doesn't have any sp, cd or similar kind of advantage.
Sena, Helia, Thelema if against lightning/sd, then Thelema, Sena, Coralie if against ice.
I love her af and have no crystals left 😢😢😢😢
HoR finally retired
Anyway i do HOPE There will be a New Physical DPS because now im good with All Element DPS just Physical DPS is the one i need
I’m pretty sure you can get seele rn
@@ineedfood11 im Aiming for Part 2 Characters
Not saying Seele is bad i just wanna have more Part 2 Characters But Physical DPS
@@ShiroFantasy ohh ok :)
what i assume, probably the girl name "perception" would be the next? 🤔 and she's a gun user from what i know on her dialogue in the story
that triangle dashing thing looks so cool. is that part of her qte?
I just realize that part 2 all weapons is different from last patch before, I want change helia weapon and it's not working
So friking cool
i was unable to get sena :( but i'm very close to pity and i really want thelema!! is there someone else i could use with her alongside coralie? or would it be better to just use her with kira and sushang instead?
man ima need to grind my gems out HoRb might have to take a back seat on her gears
Tbh, from this vid release until thelema release in global, I'm still kinda confused how to play her
My thirst thought: did she forget to put on pants?
Will (for now) Thelema be playable with HoTR and Sushang/Kira? Debating on saving for her without having Sena or Helia gears, or get SS HoTR as main dps while part2 keeps releasing stuff and it's more clear if anything part 1 will even be worth playing onwards
i just play honkai impact and start new account because the old ones is steam linked account. and i LITERALLY got her from my first 10 gacha thingy
Pls make some Thelema vs HoR scoring case if you can.
Team composition is a bit hard to tell now with her. So should Coralie or Helia for the 3rd slot when Sena DPS and Thelema support? Are they better than LV + HoTr support for Sena?
HoR will win for now because many people have SSS her and own Star of Eden as well, but once you increase Thelema’s rank she probably overtakes HoR
@@sonickunckle I doubt that they'll release a valk underperforming HoR, even if she's maxed at SSS.
@@sonickunckleidk if HoR still tops as there's so many wasted time while she's on field.
I always ask myself :
Why lil griseo doesn't have the free signatures😢 in shop ??
Imma stall and go all out on anniv, how long it was again? Cz last anniv i forgot to spend my token, and it ended up become normal coin
意識到到第一個被換下去的是Coralie，但沒想到會這麼快…
拆出去輔助星環冰隊而已，你該不會以為綺羅、貓貓、素裳輔助瑟莉姆能比希娜+科拉莉好吧😅
Is she viable without Senadina? I just started playing and most likely won’t have enough to get both.
can she be played in a regular Ice team? (with Kira and Sushang)
Yes
Cómo es que no le duele la espalda de tanto hacer sus poses 😮
If she synergizes with Sena DPS, who's she replacing on her team?? Coralie???
ye
I think helia gets replace, coz I've seen Thelema, Sena and Coralie comp
@@MarisaHonkai💀 that's foul how fast she got replaced 💀
Not useless, still used for Thelema DPS team. And her AR type is flexible, so may still be useful in the future
Thelema = Delima as in Pomegranate
Are you using max Dorm Lv + max Divine keys ATK + max Refine +23 all stigmata?
I still dont have Senas weapon and I already got 10 of her stigma like WTF??
That's just mormal gacha, I went hard pity on Sena weapon too.
same here, u are not alone.
i've just returned to the game and missed the senadina banner, is there alternatives for Thelema team?
i spent all my crystals on senatrio gonna cope with hohe
Afaik she doesn’t directly powercreep HoHE, she should still win when against mech types, Thelma directly replaces HoR
in hi3rd part 2 is there a variant of a character?
like bronya have HOTr and HOR
not yet. Part 2 just started and there's only been 3 valks released.
@@Toxi_Chris i hope there is in the future
They sadly didn't do it lately except for the trio. I hope this returns
Sorry Thelema, but after spending event i have absolutely nothing.
pla I havent even completed my elysia gears yet 😭😭😭
Is she still good with the kira perdo line up? I couldnt the S-rank supports for her :(
She looks great. Not sure about that huge ass new UI on pc tho.
they really want you to know the boss have 20x HP bars
NOT THE OG YATTA WEAPON 😨
Should I get sena or just wait for thelema? I'm near pity, f2p so I can only choose one 😂
is it good to get song que SS?
i already got 4* kiana
for ice, my mini ely only at 3*
Only if you care about T100. Probably better to finish other elfs
So will this be able to replace trio team sometimes
Is she any better than coralie or helia for senadina team because i barelly got her and i have no gems
Willows any good for Thelema?
Whats the best team for her in current beta? I still no get helia's weapon, so if i can replace her with coralie...
She doesnt need helia
Helia is gonna be used for dps senadia only
Thelema need coralie which is free
@@infectedtheretardshunter1987 thank you~ Guess I'll keep trying get her weapon. I if can't I need to use the foundry f2p instead
Main DPS Thelema - Thelema, Coralie, Senadina
Support Thelema - Senadina, Thelema, Helia
❤
Is there any point in getting her if you don't have Sena?
Is she good with Elysia?🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yo guys is it normal to pull thelema, her weapon, and 4 stigmata ( i got litost Twice) in under 25 pull?
The same question
her s2 reminds me of kazuha c1 lmao
how dose she compare to a hor with sss rank and max gear
Guys does the pity carry over for character banner???😫😫😫
Yes, but no if your talking about adv/newbie. example: adv supply its 100 pity and if you pull 20x and then a new adv supply come, the pity will reset to 100 and it will not be added to normal character supply
@@Rose-zn7cz okay okay I have like 15 pity on senadia banner tyssmmm
Don't forget Pity minus 10 every patch. Mean if you have 15 next version Will be 5
@@muhammadrafif6160that’s incorrect. It was only -10 this patch cayse pity went down. But even then you don’t loose any pulls
@@almondmilk8494 yeah more detail like this what i Heard, if Pity > 10 than Pity = Pity - 10. But if Pity < = 10 than Pity =Pity -1. So it means bad for you not to pull if you have less or same 10 Pity (CMIWW)
should I go with her or with Tericula
What about Kira and susi?
Technically chain blades aren't new cause senti
but that fuhua costume tho...
Without sena, how much of an upgrade over HoHe will she be?
Different type. Thelema can cover what HoH can't and vice versa. She's comparable to HoR
Oh ok thanks
@@misscelesta
I have a dilemma...is it worth going for HoTr gear if I have HoO and HoFi 4/4 each? or should I just keep saving for Thelema since I don't have an Ice DPS built on my account and have been using Triple Support with Pardo, Shigure Kira and Sushang
Edit: my HoTr is using Haxxor Bunny's weapon Turgenev TB and Fu Hua: Musician M
theoretically, herrscher of truth full gear is also a decent ice dps when fully geared, however i'm not sure how good of an idea is investing on an old valk in part 2
Why she move like that? Omigawd
what about carole? thelema helia carole didnt work?
DPS híbrido com suporte que vai forçar o jogador médio a correr atrás de todos os rank S futuros? Agora tá explicado o plano maligno da parte dois. Se não ficou óbvio: eles vão ficar lançando personagens DPS/suporte que você precisa pegar frequentemente ou vai ficar defasado de uma versão para outra (o que antes levava anos para acontecer, um exemplo é a HoR que tá firme e forte até hoje).
sena is still good, and Stardust type wont be getting powercrept anytime soon. the game will give more teams to play with and be more skill based than $$$ based... if you dont think thats good then idk what to say
Here’s the thing, I love Honkai part 2 but the only problem is, why do all the Part 2 characters have such a basic design?
Yeah, I’ve been wondering that too. Design-wise it’s super boring tbh
Of course they powercreep coralie for senadinas team.. :c