How To Use Polyrhythms For Drums and Melodic Instruments
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- In this episode I discuss the concepts of Polyrhythms and how they are used in drum set verses a melodic instrument. The types of polyrhythms covered in this episode are 3:2, 4:3 and 5:4. These concepts must internalized before more moving on to more advanced concepts like metric modulation (think Vinnie Colaiuta) or more complex linear patterns. In future videos I will show you how to use these concepts in orchestral writing.
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i'm learning so much by watching your videos! Please continue with polyrhythms. They are a joy! I will be sending for your book! Thank you again Rick, much appreciated
It's funny, that polyrhythm you did at 7:19, I play all the time on my thighs and never realized it was a polyrhythm.
it’s like that christmas song, Carrol of The Bells I think?
funny, I play the polyrhythm at 5:44 on my thighs and never knew it was a polyrhythm.
I watched a lotta tool videos and danny introduced me to poly rhythms cuz he was doing things I didn't think were possible on drums. I'm glad I came across this video
i think konnakol technique is one of the most affective to practice rhythms. u just need taka, takita and takadime. 7/8 = takadime takita or takita takadime depending on the accent u intend. it really help me. :)
Neat profile pic!
Can't tell you how much I love these last few videos
This is phenomenal ...thanks much Rick!
The Best as always.thank you maestro.
Great video. Will watch again. Thanks.
Oh goodness Thank You I've been asking anyone to explain they would say you don't know you don't know and never teach wow now I see ty BEATO
This is gold! Drilling this whole concept again.
Really cool video!! I especially loved the examples with piano!!!!
thanks Rick! love the channel
I have a feeling that following these classes at the right age, I could have really become a musician (despite my family stopping me from taking music lessons when I was young LOL). Consider yourselves lucky, guys, this is gold!
If only they had Rick Beato and RUclips in 1975...
i was thinking more about the 90s XD
Sir, You are an amazing teacher and musical genius.
Great lesson rick!
This video was cool!
Videos on how to use metronomes, developing groove/pocket and improving time would also be cool.
Thanks, this is a great starting point for anyone who wants to know about polyrhythms. I'm not a drummer, but I program sounds for softsynths (specifically u-he Zebra) for cinematic underscore and I really want to create some exotic layered rhythms. I'm looking forward to more polyrhythm videos! :D
Uh ok
I spent lots of time hanging out in the basement of that building on the corner of Boylston and Hemenway from 1974 through 1976. Chafee was putting together some mad percussion ensembles with double drumsets, a bass player two vibraphones, concert grand marimba.Somewhere I’ve got cassette tapes I made of some with GB on vibes.
3:2 is easy: look at Carol Of the Bells. If you consider the high pedal at the beginning as an independent line from the descending figure (except for the first note) the descending figure creates a 3:2 with the pedal.
Excelente video!!! Gracias por compartirlo!!!
Thank you Rick.
Hey, Rick. Thanks for the video. Very interesting stuff. Funnily enough, I was struggling my way through 5:4 just last night! It'd be very helpful to hear the different polyrhythms at a much slower tempo (even as slow as 40bpm), because it sounds like a bit of a blur to ears that are unfamiliar with the sound. It'd be interesting to hear how the two rhythms interact, like how you did with the 3:2 leg tapping :)
Does Rick Beato Djent?
Very interesting thank you
Nice. another student of polyrhythms.... Jon Bonham ;) Great content as always Rick. Cheers.
Easy & good explanation 🎼🎼🇲🇨
Oof. This reminds me of the time i attende a Virgil Donati clinic and he played a different subdivision with each of his limbs; 4 over 5 over 6 over 7.
And then Jacob Collier did 2 : 3 : 4 : 5 : 6 on one hand...
Now I’m jealous. That must have been amazing! (Love Virgil Donati).
I appreciate your videos due to the diversity and the amount of informative content.
I think if you really want to teach a working method for practicing poly rhythms, you should teach how to count them correctly at first. For a beginner maybe this is the only way to understand them and to find a way to practice them.
I practice subdivisions and polyrhythms w/ lyrics and words. Rhyme zone for ideas (5-syllables: semitropical 7-syllables: meteorological) etc
More Vinnie! :-)
Long Life to you!
Your compositions immediately made me think of Alexander Scriabin. Scriabin uses so much polyrhythm in his compositions beautifully.
When i see notes i get fewer :D I was always mentaly challenged when it cames to notes :D
Sounds like Aeolian to me!
Rick could you make a video about polymeters?
to play 3:2 say cold-cup-of-tea it helps so fucking much
I used to say "Pass the goddamn butter" to help me remember 4/3.
Phalanges on Bass i used a different expletive 😁
More music theory! That is all.
The piano thing!
7:34 Hark how the bells, Sweet silver bells, All seem to say,
i was hearing just that!!!!
4:40 piano piece
@Rick Beato I would like so much to hear your opinion on this little australian band that realeased a microtonal album and a polyrhytmic-polymetric album... of course i'm talking about King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard and their Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwanaland
Nice cup of tea
Pass the goddamn butter
u are cool!
make a video about konnakol, please...
hello can you explain me which figuration uses from the 3.49 minute to play the subdivisions ?? thank you sorry for my english 🎶👍❤️
corrado manganaro can you explain what you mean by “figuration”? Notation maybe?
Great video! Keep 'em coming :)
For guitar players interested in getting into polyrhythms, I'd definitely recommend checking out Dean Brown. He's done some pretty cool instructional videos on polyrhythms.
I'm a bit confused with the c dorian example. Shouldn't there be an a natural as raised 6 in the scale?
yea!
Can you do a video to play polyrhythmic eith a beat for example in smooth of carlo santana play triplets against beat at eight notes and sound very weird for us begginers
There's something about playing 9 against 13 in the space of 4 beats...
Ab. That's a C aeolian, or Ab lydian.
Just so you know, beat division in the U.K. Is different :D we say that crotchets are 1 beat, minims are 2 etc in that direction and quavers are half beats, semi quavers are quarter etc in the other direction ;)
You do understand what i'm talking about correct?That's funny because my friend Chris was at my studio yesterday while I was making the video and we talked about the same thing! I will remember that in the future. Thanks! Rick
Rick Beato yeah it's still easy to understand :)
Btw, my friend Chris is English and we always joke about this :)
Out of interest, where/how/what platform do you advertise yourself as a composer in? Is there a network of composers I should join if I am looking for work?
You Bloody Brits!
Nice to hear, but much much easier if you can see it in midi at the same time. Also no point in using different notes.
If i play 4 bars phrase 1)7/8 2)5/8 3)7/8 4)4/4, is this polyrythm?
When I take a 12/16 step bass on a a 4/4 what is that?
Genal!!!! Podrias regalarme la partitura
There's an 11note tuplet in black page by Zappa, I don't know how to begin practicing for that
There's a great video on RUclips called "Advanced Rhythm Through Karnatic Techniques". I'd assume an 11-tuplet would be broken up as ta-ki-di-mi-ta-ka-ta-ke-ge-na-ton (that'll make sense when you see the video I'm referring to). Maybe also get a metronome that can play x number of clicks per beat, then set the tempo to say, 20, and make it click 11 times between each beat. Hope this helps.
I will be getting to larger groupings in one of the next videos.
I would recommend the book "The UnReel Drum Book" by Marc Atkinson, featuring the drumming by Vinnie Colaiuta. It has excellent polyrhythmic exercises and a formula to figure them out which Vinnie uses.
Wow thanks guys I'll take your advice and it makes me feel really good knowing someone who knows things is actually listening, I'm practicing scales going up with one hand and down with the other at the moment trying to master 12 keys I think my brain cells are rebelling
@John Roy: work your way up to it. I assume you're already familiar with polyrhythms and the basic groups of 3, 5, 6 & 7 Rick presented in this video? You should practice those slowly at first, in different combinations and melodic contexts, until they "make sense" - meaning until they become second nature to you and you can play them at will, in random order with as little forethought as possible, just like speaking a language. I'm sure Rick will probably make another video taking these basics even further, if so, spend time learning those the same way...gradually working your way up to the peculiarities of whichever grouping Zappa happens to throw at you.
By the way, I grew up with a guy who learned "The Black Page" by ear, he had nothing more than basic guitar lessons and a knack for reproducing what he heard. But, when asked to play other pieces with similar types of polyrhythms - like some King Crimson songs we were rehearsing - he wasn't able to pick them up right away, because he never spent time learning the basics...we were all friends but he was still embarrassed. My point is that learning "The Black Page" by ear, without having a background in polyrhythms, is rare, but it can be done, but then what? Then you're the guy who gets called up to play one song then sent to the bar to get the drummer more water, lol. Anyway, hope this helps a little.
Fantasia Impromptu.
Can you use two time signatures at the same time? Would that be redundant?
Good question dude ita a shame that no one reply on ur question,here is how i would come up,u cant have two time signature if theres one that is totally wrong but u can have different note 8,16,32 if u r a guitar player ur right hand finger gonna work...
Yes it’s called a polymeter, it can be more musical and versatile than polyrhythms but harder to do
4:39
I suck at this. I find it difficult to feel the 2 pulses separately. 😢
Feel it as one, you need to understand in which (part of the) 4/4 subdivision the polyrhythms fall, so take 2 bars or 3 bars and learn them seperately, then combine the different patterns on 4/4 and bam you got it :D
I believe he does....🤔
First of all, the tempo is too fast for introducing concepts. You must start slow and get the ear used to the sounds, and getting the body to internalize the rhythms that are "combined"...I am a Vinnie fan too, and I bet your sweet bippy, Vinnie didn't fall out of his mum just wailing on these either...Let's set the speed knob around 40 BPM and remember...Learn fast=practice slow.P.S. if you can sing "Ring Christmas Bells" the melody is 3:2...something easy to sing and internalize it quickly.
The opening is like Rick is being tracked by the government and he doesnt have much time to get out this information about polyrhythms
2 types of people here. Jazz people and D J E N T people
do 7:11
Sounds like a drum machine hard to distinguish toms
Less talk more show
Tempo is too fast.. also you transitioned too fast from one rhythm to the next.
Polyrhythms are crap
Then why did you watch this video?