Various people, who, frankly, I respect a lot more than AM have been saying for a little while now that, If we're not careful, in a few years time we could wtness a kind of re-run of what would be the century earlier, to some extent.
It's worth pointing out that Starmer won with less votes then Corbyn got in either 2017 or 2019 elections despite being smeared without evidence as an anti-semite by the corporate media and the right-wing of his own party. The only reason labour won was that the far Right and Conservatives split the vote and Labour eeked out a victory with just a little over a third of the vote. Hardly a resounding endorsement by the people of Britain. With good reason too, as Starmer is the Biden of the UK, campaign to Left the through the primaries and deliver for the donors in government. Starmer is going to do nothing except make sure the rich get richer and eventually they will get the far right party they deserve because neoliberalism that delivers the benefits to the very top, eventually produces fascism. Corbyn like Bernie was the UK's last chance to get off the sinking ship of neoliberalism and it's Siamese twin, colonial violence. The system works.
Im amazed anyone cant see through NFs public image. Its so plain to me that his loyalty is first and foremost to himself and his own ambitions for power. Behind the mask of the straight speaking patriot lies a deeply untrustworthy and malignant character who finds it a little too easy to spout untruths and half truths to appeal to the media/voters who cant see through the act. Hes more politically astute than most of our politicians and thats what makes him dangerous, unlike the present day politicians who think we cant tell theyre lying, therefore making NFs job that much easier. We should probably judge him more around who he emulates ie. Trump, who has mastered the art of lying to the point that he has convinced 75 million Americans that he is one of them when he so obviously isnt. Cult leaders are notoriously good at this deceit and are known to be extremely dangerous to the gullible amongst us. NF has figured out the British psyche - the negative side anyway - and should be handled with kid gloves.
@@hotdognights1 How about center right or just right. They only seem to mention far right when the truth is only a small percentage of what they call far right are actually far right. Most of them will be center right to right.
It reminds me of the Brexit referendum and the over exaggerated and blind threats about what would happen if people voted leave. That sort of journalism doesn't work and just drives the anti-establishment sentiment
It’s disgraceful how many fake do gooders are out therr causing so much damage the ultimate disrespect for the ppl that keep our country going the working ppl this infestation needs to stop no fkn right doing this
Props to Marr for acknowledging the void of actual left-wing political parties here, it's genuinely gratifying to hear this said plainly within more traditional outlets such as TNS
If he does, I blame the media we have wall to wall coverage of him every day the media never called him out for who he really is and what he has put this country through he has divided this country and put it on a path that I thought I would never see in my lifetime. Nigel do us all a favour and don’t stop drinking and smoking Nigel
Well we know the media would love him to be PM. But it wouldn't be good for the rest of us. He doesn't give two hoots about ordinary people, just people he'll use to get him where he wants then dump them, like Trump.
It doesn't help Reform to have the focus on migration. They're already very clear on those policies. They need to show that they're able to have viable plans for the basics of government- defence, housing, education, wheelie bins etc. If they do that they show their viability
That would be expecting Reform Ltd to play the game fairly. They aren't doing that. They've taken money from a member of a foreign, extreme right government. Beats me why Farage isn't having his velvet collar felt.
@@MrBrock-kp5te So your view is not to beat his arguments with something better - it's to simply shut him up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T?!?! And YOU have the audacity to call him an extremist? How long have you actually had THE monopoly on always being right? The public are understandably sick and tired of being lied to. I voted REMAIN for what it's worth. We wouldn't have left the EU had we not had literally DECADES of being told "we can't do this becuase of the Europeans...." And then, when we sadly collectively took a laxative to cure the headache STILL haven't done anything about it. *STOP THE BOATS and control our borders!* Parliament makes the law in the UK. We always did have sovereignty. Constantly blaming someone else for their own failures caused us to exit the EU. Still the lies about multiculturalism eniching us... The long and short of it is that if the Labour or Tory parties _won't_ do something about this, then at long last the British public have had enough of being insulted and called extremist .... Because YOU _I glean from the way you write_ appear to have a monopoly on all things righteous! We cannot keep dumping alien cultures in the poorer places like Bradford, or parts of London, Bristol, Manchester and hope it will all sort itself out! *Stop the boats!* STOP THE BOATS! If they don't, I'm sure Farage will. Very sure - but this will mean that we will become a less pleasant country in the process!
Right now we are frogs in a saucepan on a low heat with the uniparty, sometimes its better to go for something radical than carry on a slow decline to where the likes of South Africa are at.
@@charlieleedham5265 they don’t get paid more than doctors, junior doctors yes but not fully trained doctors. They just reformed councils to allow for local mayors which allows for better local representation. That’s why I said I agree with Andrews analysis, Labour need more money to make people like you and me feel like something is being done. Farcy Farage is not the answer though just because you feel labour isn’t doing much.
How do we sort immigration in an achievable, cost-effective manner? It's not simple at all. Brexit was supposed to allow the UK to take back control of its borders and reduce immigration. Instead immigration has increased. Farage simply blames the wrong type of Brexit having been implemented without providing any details of the type of workable Brexit he might have wanted. It's all front with him - no depth at all.....
Reform voters are the person on the street. Im 66, quietly retired, just looking towards an enjoyable retirement, taken away by Tories and Labour, Reform is my hope!
Reform voters are the loud mouths in the pubs. You’re looking forward to an enjoyable retirement !! You put your cross in the wrong box in 2016. When did Labour take away anything from you ? Spell it out. You’ll be burning books next.
When you began working, there were 15 workers for every retiree. Now that figure is 3 workers per retiree. That's unsustainable without a baby boom or more migration. If you want a comfortable retirement, maybe don't vote for conmen like Farage or the bullshit of Brexit to remove free movement
The 'main lesson' is that when Andrew Marr flips from saying 'far-right' to saying 'populist-right', you know that Labour are in deep deep trouble with the red-wall Labour voters!
How does one demonstrate a majority to the satisfaction of the many, or maybe not quite the many ? We have seen recent calls for another election, even though Starmer won by FPTP just 5 months ago. So we have a majority already and democracy has been served.
The man most pleased about the rise of Reform is Ed Davey. They split the Right assunder. Yes they have lots of 2nd places but the split ensures the ability to convert to 1st places is limited
Boris Johnson monumentally sold brexiteers down the river. The decimation of working class people's wages due to freedom of movement was the reason I voted for Brexit. I had no idea that we would enter a new era of zero hour contracts and wage slavery under the Tories and now Labour seem to be perfectly comfortable to carry it on. The only difference is that the poor of the world are invited to the race to the bottom instead of relying on the poor of Europe to satisfy our lust for cheap labour.
Just because the UK currently does not have a traditional strong left movement is NOT a failure - it reflects that the WHOLE WIDTH of political mood in the UK is shifting slightly to the right. A few other European countries have a stronger right than before, and is not a bad thing - but just because Marr personally does not like it, is no reason for him to try to make it so - be democratic and accept what many tens of millions decide.
@@sirruslywe’ll toughen up if you wise up. It would lead to utter chaos and last about 6 months. To assure you he’s an out and out racist. I repeat for reassurance he’s an out and out racist. If you’re in doubt look up the German workers party & if you can’t see a similarity read it again and again , seriously.
Sources please. Where have you got this information about WEF? Tenner says social media, alt-right platforms, or plain conspiracy theories. Edit: Meant to put "common sense" in my little list there as well.
I agreed with much of what Andrew says, but an income tax rise would be the end of Labour for a generation. The only thing that will save this Government would have been growth but the budget put a whole bucketload of nails in that coffin!
Add both of the major parties together and the amount to Zero. It’s all very well Marr sneering at the populists but what have they ever contributed apart from hot air. Give me populism any day. We’re the workers. That made this country
See, a few years ago I’d have said straight away “no fkcuing chance!” But since Brexit and Boris I don’t trust our voter as far as I can throw them. I mean, it could happen. I reckon someone would go full Luigi on him though. Throwing Molotov not milkshakes type thing.
I feel at some point in time the majority of the people in this country will decide their own interests are more important than the agendas pushed by various institutions. The present MPs will never do this, so they won't end well.
I’d say this: Trump has just won in America, and it’s clear the game has changed. Traditional media and politics need to wake up and catch up. I say bring it on-our stagnant political system desperately needs a shock and some real disruption to shake things up.
The May council elections next year will be an indicator of public opinion as to whether populism in the shape of 'Reform' has a future or any traction........also if Musk is prepared to donate $100m that will of course matter significantly.
I like the idea of 'more fiscal power' if it involves Reeves being deposed. Can AM make this happen? And while he's at it, can he dump Starmer as well? In fact, thinking on it ditching the entire Labour government would be really good.
Their manifesto is complete nuts - raising the tax free allowance to 20k 🤣 yeah sounds really realistic. When will the british piblic stop falling for populists and grifters who just tell you want you want to hear
@gug1970 its working put great. Not a single thing Labour has done has negatively affected me so everything's just lovely thanks. I. Really enjoying laughing at all the pathetic whiners crying about the government though
Just like labour's fully costed budget 😆. The government spends 1000 billion each year, and you think the markets are terrified of 22 billion. Clowns the lot of them
Unlike Badenoch or Starmer, Nigel Farage actually answers questions. You may not like the answer but he answers it and that shows honesty and a politician with conviction. That is why the people trust him.
That only depends on whether labour cancels democracy. They're already planning to cancel council elections next year in areas where Reform UK expect to win big.
Labour and the Conservatives are NOT centralist parties. They are both Brexit parties. The Tories are trying to be a light version of Reform and Labour are trying to be a light version of the Tories. They are letting Nigel set the agenda and he is loving it. But the problem is that the Brexit parties cannot come up with a solution to address the Cost of Living Crisis. And that is what is making voters more angry.
I think if Reform looked like winning 2029 the uniparty would band together Lab/Lib/Con/SNP/Green to keep him & Reform out much like happened in France to keep Le Pen out.
Andrew Marr, stop changing your opinions like a weather-vane and within a short space of time too. Just a few months ago you were hailing Starmer as a second Attlee, praising him to the heights. And now? Only last week you were ventilating Westminster gossip with suggestions that Starmer might soon be out with the two opposing camps centred on Streeting and Rayner biding their time. I could do all this speculative chat just as well as you can. That's not what I want. I'm not expecting a master soothsayer but I do expect a degree of consistency. And swinging wildly from one view one week to another view the following week does not strike me as evidence of consistency.
@ 😂 Nigel can’t even duck out the way of a milkshake. He’s not coming for anyone, he wants to make as much money as possible from idiots who believe he is the second coming of Trump,,, wake up… he doesn’t care about you.
' Really' .... how can this be a shock , its so strange to listen to people like this ,who i assume believe they speak for and live lives like ordinary people . I voted Labour all my life ,i voted remain , i was so so wrong to do either . i have just become a member of Reform ,its the first time iv`e jioned a political party , this country needs change .
I totally agree with Andrew Marr , if the PM wants to survive,he needs to give Britain and its people need a sense of greater security, both economically, personally and internationally, the Tories manifestly failed on this, gutting the armed forces, damaging alliances and presiding over a collapse in living standards and personal financial and housing security for millions of people in the UK
But Andrew, in Britain's FPTP system the number of seats a party has is in no way a reflection of the popular support it has! Labour only represents 1 in 3 British voters, and Reform 1 in 7...
i see the same thing that happened to trump , all the bad things were said and the people finally saw the way the same is happening with farage the people are always right
If as Andrew says they need more money they should giving it away to other countries and use what they have to sort our current problems not on pie in the sky climate schemes
The majority of regular people do not want the aspirations of socialist sixth form politics. Trump’s performance in the US will dictate the UK’s direction, particularly if Labour continue to make people less safe and poorer.
Reform getting a bridgehead in parliament has been bad news for both the tories and Labour because Reform have been seen to be competent parliamentary performers. Now they are seen daily going head to head with mainstream parties, and looking good doing it, the MSP can't denigrate them as fringe loonies as they liked to do so in the past. That Marr thinks they are knocking on the door of number 10 says a lot.
Tories finished now, as Labour is, unfortunately is going to be such a tough time for businesses for the next 3 years or so, lets just hope that Nigel Farage is the next Prime minster, lets just hope,
Love Nigel he is very down to earth and in touch with the people 😊 the main parties have lost touch with the people - take the people with you not neglect them 😢
and being paid by Nomad Capitalist LLC to promote the interests of HNW economic migrants too..... he's a prime hypocrite who appeals to the disillusioned until they become disillusioned by Deform UK's false promises.....
He went to Dulwich College was a broker on the London metal exchange and a member of the Tory Party and East India Club. Yes, very anti establishment.🤡
The anti sentiment is growing he could definitely usurp and the thing is he has no substance in terms of politics what so ever. his Manifesto or 'contract' was just a complete list of what people want to hear, I doubt he could go for serious governess what so ever, but when the major parties are so unpopular with the people and as a society we are getting poorer and much worse of turning to a populist can definitely happen.
He doesn’t want to be PM, that would be way too much like work. He just wants to work his grift by being in the public eye with as little accountability as he can. Look at his current workshy attitude.
That says a lot about Govements then doesn’t it! Reform brings real change, change that improves the lives of the have nots and everyone in between, not just words that never amount to much plus a they have a great Ally in the new President of the United States. That carries a lot more clout than the political pundits know. 😊
Seriously! The country has lost it's discipline, no respect for anyone, our poison is social media!
The MSM is poison Social media is talking about what the main stream media won’t
They don't deserve respect. Respect is earned.
No, people didn't want mass replacement migration
You do know that people have been saying that for several hundred years?
Its up to the media to discredit reform
The masses don't feel listened to. Always a treacherous state of affairs.
Various people, who, frankly, I respect a lot more than AM have been saying for a little while now that, If we're not careful, in a few years time we could wtness a kind of re-run of what would be the century earlier, to some extent.
Alternatively, the masses are being listened to far too much.
@@marksimons8861 I think that's probably a bad idea in the long run.
It's worth pointing out that Starmer won with less votes then Corbyn got in either 2017 or 2019 elections despite being smeared without evidence as an anti-semite by the corporate media and the right-wing of his own party. The only reason labour won was that the far Right and Conservatives split the vote and Labour eeked out a victory with just a little over a third of the vote. Hardly a resounding endorsement by the people of Britain. With good reason too, as Starmer is the Biden of the UK, campaign to Left the through the primaries and deliver for the donors in government.
Starmer is going to do nothing except make sure the rich get richer and eventually they will get the far right party they deserve because neoliberalism that delivers the benefits to the very top, eventually produces fascism. Corbyn like Bernie was the UK's last chance to get off the sinking ship of neoliberalism and it's Siamese twin, colonial violence.
The system works.
The problem is who the masses are listening to. And believing that an elitist shyster actually cares about them.
Im amazed anyone cant see through NFs public image. Its so plain to me that his loyalty is first and foremost to himself and his own ambitions for power. Behind the mask of the straight speaking patriot lies a deeply untrustworthy and malignant character who finds it a little too easy to spout untruths and half truths to appeal to the media/voters who cant see through the act. Hes more politically astute than most of our politicians and thats what makes him dangerous, unlike the present day politicians who think we cant tell theyre lying, therefore making NFs job that much easier. We should probably judge him more around who he emulates ie. Trump, who has mastered the art of lying to the point that he has convinced 75 million Americans that he is one of them when he so obviously isnt. Cult leaders are notoriously good at this deceit and are known to be extremely dangerous to the gullible amongst us. NF has figured out the British psyche - the negative side anyway - and should be handled with kid gloves.
One way to stop reform winning is stop calling everyone far right like they're doing here! Reform are not far right.
How about extreme right then?
@@hotdognights1 How about center right or just right. They only seem to mention far right when the truth is only a small percentage of what they call far right are actually far right. Most of them will be center right to right.
It reminds me of the Brexit referendum and the over exaggerated and blind threats about what would happen if people voted leave. That sort of journalism doesn't work and just drives the anti-establishment sentiment
It’s disgraceful how many fake do gooders are out therr causing so much damage the ultimate disrespect for the ppl that keep our country going the working ppl this infestation needs to stop no fkn right doing this
@@jamielyons4961 How about, right?
Props to Marr for acknowledging the void of actual left-wing political parties here, it's genuinely gratifying to hear this said plainly within more traditional outlets such as TNS
Well the media Marr works for put an end to Corbyn
If he does, I blame the media we have wall to wall coverage of him every day the media never called him out for who he really is and what he has put this country through he has divided this country and put it on a path that I thought I would never see in my lifetime. Nigel do us all a favour and don’t stop drinking and smoking Nigel
💯 Agreed.
Farage is coming to drain the swamp. There is a tsunami coming and a large clearout to follow.
Well we know the media would love him to be PM. But it wouldn't be good for the rest of us. He doesn't give two hoots about ordinary people, just people he'll use to get him where he wants then dump them, like Trump.
It doesn't help Reform to have the focus on migration. They're already very clear on those policies. They need to show that they're able to have viable plans for the basics of government- defence, housing, education, wheelie bins etc. If they do that they show their viability
That would be expecting Reform Ltd to play the game fairly. They aren't doing that. They've taken money from a member of a foreign, extreme right government. Beats me why Farage isn't having his velvet collar felt.
They don't have plans about those things. They are a bunch of sleazebags. They're in it for themselves and nothing else.
Spoiler...they have no plan
Border control is “the basics of government”, pretending otherwise is what created the current situation.
@gdwe1831 They have a plan, you just haven't read it!
He seems to be the choice of the media. Even the BBC gives him way too much air time.
How true! I wish they would stop talking about the silly little man. Far too much media coverage.
@@MrBrock-kp5te You want to censor him?
@@MrBrock-kp5te So your view is not to beat his arguments with something better - it's to simply shut him up BECAUSE YOU CAN'T?!?!
And YOU have the audacity to call him an extremist? How long have you actually had THE monopoly on always being right?
The public are understandably sick and tired of being lied to. I voted REMAIN for what it's worth. We wouldn't have left the EU had we not had literally DECADES of being told "we can't do this becuase of the Europeans...." And then, when we sadly collectively took a laxative to cure the headache STILL haven't done anything about it.
*STOP THE BOATS and control our borders!* Parliament makes the law in the UK. We always did have sovereignty. Constantly blaming someone else for their own failures caused us to exit the EU. Still the lies about multiculturalism eniching us...
The long and short of it is that if the Labour or Tory parties _won't_ do something about this, then at long last the British public have had enough of being insulted and called extremist .... Because YOU _I glean from the way you write_ appear to have a monopoly on all things righteous! We cannot keep dumping alien cultures in the poorer places like Bradford, or parts of London, Bristol, Manchester and hope it will all sort itself out!
*Stop the boats!* STOP THE BOATS! If they don't, I'm sure Farage will. Very sure - but this will mean that we will become a less pleasant country in the process!
Milkshake!😂😂😂
Hear hear 👏 out of all proportion to what they actually get in elections. They're determined to push him on us. They only got 14% for goodness sake.
Go Reform UK and Nigel for PM for 2029 - bring it on! 😀
Britain cant get any worse...... Or can it? 🤔
A lot worse, let reformed UK in and find out.
Give it 4 years with this lot
If Labour stay in it will
Right now we are frogs in a saucepan on a low heat with the uniparty, sometimes its better to go for something radical than carry on a slow decline to where the likes of South Africa are at.
Happening across the West. Open borders Globalisation is destroying the West.
Why does anyone think Farage and Reform will actually do anything for them?
Edit: Also, totally agree with Andrew’s analysis at the end
Whats labour doing for us apart from freezing pensioners and giving trains drivers a bigger pay rise, paid more than doctors and police officers
Because we’re going to use reform as a wedge before voting for UKIP or Britain First 👍
@@charlieleedham5265 Banning-zero hours contracts?
@@randymarsh3636 yes because that’ll work. Basically did that with voting for Brexit in the referendum and look how that went.
@@charlieleedham5265 they don’t get paid more than doctors, junior doctors yes but not fully trained doctors. They just reformed councils to allow for local mayors which allows for better local representation. That’s why I said I agree with Andrews analysis, Labour need more money to make people like you and me feel like something is being done. Farcy Farage is not the answer though just because you feel labour isn’t doing much.
I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan, and I will be voting for Reform. Call me all the names you want; I don't care at all anymore.
Good man the lefties are panicking as seen on this video
God they like their own voices and opinions. Reform for me and I think most true British people.
If starmer wants to hold reform and tories back, he needs to sort immigration. simple
Joining the EU will help with that, just look at the immigration figures vs dates.
@@peteratkin3788 Mayhaps you would do well to note that the EU also has a say on who joins...
How do you mean 'sort' immigration?
Immigration went up massively when we left the EU.,Whose idea was that?
How do we sort immigration in an achievable, cost-effective manner? It's not simple at all. Brexit was supposed to allow the UK to take back control of its borders and reduce immigration. Instead immigration has increased. Farage simply blames the wrong type of Brexit having been implemented without providing any details of the type of workable Brexit he might have wanted. It's all front with him - no depth at all.....
Wouldn’t be that surprising given what has occurred in the country over the last 15 years.
Problem is the treasury will resist any attempt he makes to cut it.
Labour deserve to loose
Lol.
Reform voters are the person on the street. Im 66, quietly retired, just looking towards an enjoyable retirement, taken away by Tories and Labour, Reform is my hope!
Reform needs you in a little boat out in the channel. You might get a nice uniform.
Reform voters are the loud mouths in the pubs. You’re looking forward to an enjoyable retirement !! You put your cross in the wrong box in 2016. When did Labour take away anything from you ? Spell it out. You’ll be burning books next.
If you think Reform represent you, I’ve got some magic beans to sell. Are you interested?
When you began working, there were 15 workers for every retiree. Now that figure is 3 workers per retiree. That's unsustainable without a baby boom or more migration. If you want a comfortable retirement, maybe don't vote for conmen like Farage or the bullshit of Brexit to remove free movement
@@crayontom9687 Lots of censorship by RUclips in favour of Reform occurring.
The "shock horror" reaction to the idea is the same as when Trump was first considered for President.
The 'main lesson' is that when Andrew Marr flips from saying 'far-right' to saying 'populist-right', you know that Labour are in deep deep trouble with the red-wall Labour voters!
Give over. It's been 5 months.
@RockdownPlus Just wait till the council elections. If Labour don't postpone them that is.
nothing new, english people are a conservative people, Farage will make everyone happy.
Unfortunately you have failed to recognise the massive post Blair ethnic presence now active in UK, mostly Labour voters.
Our politicians and elites have forgotten that the point of a democracy is to do what the majority want. The "populist" parties are aware of this.
well majority voted for labour
@@mrsammyg3125 If 20% of the electorate is a majority.
How does one demonstrate a majority to the satisfaction of the many, or maybe not quite the many ? We have seen recent calls for another election, even though Starmer won by FPTP just 5 months ago. So we have a majority already and democracy has been served.
It was a protest against Tories. Ex conservative voters went right not left.
@@thomasmoore1499 Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy decades ago unfortunately. Its all a sham
The man most pleased about the rise of Reform is Ed Davey. They split the Right assunder. Yes they have lots of 2nd places but the split ensures the ability to convert to 1st places is limited
Until Reform and the Tories come to an accommodation. Then the Libs are toast. And Labour
Boris Johnson monumentally sold brexiteers down the river. The decimation of working class people's wages due to freedom of movement was the reason I voted for Brexit. I had no idea that we would enter a new era of zero hour contracts and wage slavery under the Tories and now Labour seem to be perfectly comfortable to carry it on. The only difference is that the poor of the world are invited to the race to the bottom instead of relying on the poor of Europe to satisfy our lust for cheap labour.
The present government has pledged to ban zero-hours contracts. It's part of the 2024-25 employment rights bill, that is set to go before Parliament.
Yes totally agree.
Populism = opinions I disagree with but which appeal to (wrong thinking) people; popular democracy = opinions which I agree with.
Let me assure you Farage is as welcome as a fart in a space suit in Scotland.
The arrogant classes do not know that they are an arrogant class. Should you tell them or shall I?
Yes they also think they have superior intelligence 😂 should we tell them 😂
Pay off the debt, close the borders, fix the schools, roads and nhs
and let people live their lives.
How though? Nigel doesn’t believe in Government, he believes in the invisible hand of the market
You can’t fix the country if you close the borders
Completely agree, well said.
How has closing the borders and isolationism (Brexit) worked out so far?
Close the NHS, run down schools, and driving the lower classes into debt would be a more realistic outcome of Reform policy.
Just because the UK currently does not have a traditional strong left movement is NOT a failure - it reflects that the WHOLE WIDTH of political mood in the UK is shifting slightly to the right.
A few other European countries have a stronger right than before, and is not a bad thing - but just because Marr personally does not like it, is no reason for him to try to make it so - be democratic and accept what many tens of millions decide.
FGS please no, absolutely scares me to death even thought of that grifter taking charge. Look up narcissist and you will see this odious little man.
Please don't even suggest it
If the mere thought of it terrifies you then I suggest you toughen up a bit. The wind has changed
@@sirruslywe’ll toughen up if you wise up. It would lead to utter chaos and last about 6 months.
To assure you he’s an out and out racist. I repeat for reassurance he’s an out and out racist. If you’re in doubt look up the German workers party & if you can’t see a similarity read it again and again , seriously.
Absolutely, need rid of WEF puppets and someone who cares for his country unlike Starmer.
You like Putin puppets then?
I thought trump MAGAs were dumb!
🤦🏻♂️
Sources please. Where have you got this information about WEF?
Tenner says social media, alt-right platforms, or plain conspiracy theories.
Edit: Meant to put "common sense" in my little list there as well.
Prime Minister Nigel Farage? That would be brilliant.
I’m sure he will be,watch this space .
The Conservative and Labour parties will team up to stop this happening.
Yep. we wouldnt want actual democracy to win out would we !
I agreed with much of what Andrew says, but an income tax rise would be the end of Labour for a generation. The only thing that will save this Government would have been growth but the budget put a whole bucketload of nails in that coffin!
So how do you grow an economy which produces nothing that the world wants to buy?
Things have to be paid for, regardless of the lies the Tories tell people.
Add both of the major parties together and the amount to Zero. It’s all very well Marr sneering at the populists but what have they ever contributed apart from hot air. Give me populism any day. We’re the workers. That made this country
See, a few years ago I’d have said straight away “no fkcuing chance!”
But since Brexit and Boris I don’t trust our voter as far as I can throw them. I mean, it could happen. I reckon someone would go full Luigi on him though. Throwing Molotov not milkshakes type thing.
I truly hope Not, what's become of this country 😮
Vote reform
I feel at some point in time the majority of the people in this country will decide their own interests are more important than the agendas pushed by various institutions. The present MPs will never do this, so they won't end well.
Starmer must also address concerns regarding multiculturalism and Islam, there are legitimate concerns there
Nigel Farage tells the truth, thats why i like him......Labour just lie.
Lol, Nigel tells the truth 😂
If you think Farage tells the truth I"ve got a bridge to sell you
Nigel lies. You've been hoodwinked poor chap.
What are Reform's policies?
I’d say this: Trump has just won in America, and it’s clear the game has changed. Traditional media and politics need to wake up and catch up. I say bring it on-our stagnant political system desperately needs a shock and some real disruption to shake things up.
That's what was said in 2016. I'm sick of shocks and disruption, it's BS.
Really, you think electing an a***ole like Trump would help anything. Watch what happens to the US over the next few years.
Bring what on ?
The May council elections next year will be an indicator of public opinion as to whether populism in the shape of 'Reform' has a future or any traction........also if Musk is prepared to donate $100m that will of course matter significantly.
@@adrianlloyd6403 If Reform UK Party Ltd take that foreign money then they should be arrested by the police and their private company dissolved.
I like the idea of 'more fiscal power' if it involves Reeves being deposed. Can AM make this happen? And while he's at it, can he dump Starmer as well? In fact, thinking on it ditching the entire Labour government would be really good.
No mention of the totally different electoral system here vs France !
We could end up with a labour conservative coalition government in 2029.
Same as we've had since about 1997 then
Their manifesto is complete nuts - raising the tax free allowance to 20k 🤣 yeah sounds really realistic. When will the british piblic stop falling for populists and grifters who just tell you want you want to hear
Like every election winning manifesto over the past 30 years? Grow up
Hows all that "truth" the other parties have been spouting over the years (let alone the last 6 months) working out for you ?
@gug1970 its working put great. Not a single thing Labour has done has negatively affected me so everything's just lovely thanks. I. Really enjoying laughing at all the pathetic whiners crying about the government though
Just like labour's fully costed budget 😆. The government spends 1000 billion each year, and you think the markets are terrified of 22 billion. Clowns the lot of them
No the clowns were what we had for 14 years. These are the guys repairing the country you melt
"Populism" = when people I disagree with go out and vote 😭😭😭
The only option left.
If this did happen, serious things we take for granted could change forever. It’s a terrible thought.
Just like when your communist leader came into power then.....in fact more so!
Unlike Badenoch or Starmer, Nigel Farage actually answers questions. You may not like the answer but he answers it and that shows honesty and a politician with conviction. That is why the people trust him.
Not because he is a racist then?
That only depends on whether labour cancels democracy. They're already planning to cancel council elections next year in areas where Reform UK expect to win big.
What a horrifying prospect.
Yes, horrible to think Labour still has more than 4 years in power.
It's because people like you never listened.
Labour and the Conservatives are NOT centralist parties. They are both Brexit parties.
The Tories are trying to be a light version of Reform and Labour are trying to be a light version of the Tories.
They are letting Nigel set the agenda and he is loving it.
But the problem is that the Brexit parties cannot come up with a solution to address the Cost of Living Crisis.
And that is what is making voters more angry.
I think if Reform looked like winning 2029 the uniparty would band together Lab/Lib/Con/SNP/Green to keep him & Reform out much like happened in France to keep Le Pen out.
Which will make reform even more popular.
They wont stopthe people
Everyone I know is now voting Reform
This is assuming Starmer completes the full term obviously. Then Farage wont be
he is a traitor he needs to go to prison and his cronies hes committed trason
he is the worst politician ever we want farage not this traiter
Andrew Marr, stop changing your opinions like a weather-vane and within a short space of time too. Just a few months ago you were hailing Starmer as a second Attlee, praising him to the heights. And now? Only last week you were ventilating Westminster gossip with suggestions that Starmer might soon be out with the two opposing camps centred on Streeting and Rayner biding their time. I could do all this speculative chat just as well as you can. That's not what I want. I'm not expecting a master soothsayer but I do expect a degree of consistency. And swinging wildly from one view one week to another view the following week does not strike me as evidence of consistency.
Marr is just typical BBC guy. Very overrated host.
God help us.
Farage et al would be like Truss and Kwarteng on steroids!
God help us 😂
No we need his help now
Starmer is truly Awful
Jesus, I don't see how reform could be any worse than labour that would take some doing
Not a chance in hell
Nigel is coming for people like you.
@ 😂 Nigel can’t even duck out the way of a milkshake. He’s not coming for anyone, he wants to make as much money as possible from idiots who believe he is the second coming of Trump,,, wake up… he doesn’t care about you.
They said that twice about Trump in America.
@ they did, but Farage isn’t Trump. He’s like Trump ordered of Wish
Do hope reform is voted into power soon its needed so badly
Do hope you pop off this mortal coil before the neck election.
What is economic policy, or the defence policy of Reform, I bet you couldn't even tell me?
' Really' .... how can this be a shock , its so strange to listen to people like this ,who i assume believe they speak for and live lives like ordinary people . I voted Labour all my life ,i voted remain , i was so so wrong to do either . i have just become a member of Reform ,its the first time iv`e jioned a political party , this country needs change .
Yes if enough people vote for him
If people can elect Trump and Boris as leaders then anything is possible. 'You get the government you deserve'.
Nobody deserves a Starmer government
Do we deserve this Labour Government?
No. Socialism doesn't work, never has and never will
I totally agree with Andrew Marr , if the PM wants to survive,he needs to give Britain and its people need a sense of greater security, both economically, personally and internationally, the Tories manifestly failed on this, gutting the armed forces, damaging alliances and presiding over a collapse in living standards and personal financial and housing security for millions of people in the UK
"Internationally"? I've got news for you, mate. the rest of the world isn't interested in a cold island any more
When hes sent all the immigrants home and the nhs and care homes have no staff, who's going to wipe your arse when you get older?
Probably, the most ironic outcome is the most likely to happen
But Andrew, in Britain's FPTP system the number of seats a party has is in no way a reflection of the popular support it has! Labour only represents 1 in 3 British voters, and Reform 1 in 7...
Why on earth would you ask Andrew Marr, he's been wrong about pretty much everything for 30 years...
What a nightmare thought.
It would be horrendous look at his policy on health and state pensions careful what you wish for
'The one thing that would finish Reform would be to be in government'; well, it's finished Labour, hasn't it ?
How can he. Not be should be the question
We're truly down a rabbit hole if we are looking for leadership from Farage.
Who's faults that?
Sooner than you think early next year. I think
i see the same thing that happened to trump ,
all the bad things were said and the people finally saw the way
the same is happening with farage
the people are always right
If as Andrew says they need more money they should giving it away to other countries and use what they have to sort our current problems not on pie in the sky climate schemes
well we had boris Johnston and the US has trump so anything is possible
Yes
Yes Farage is our saviour 🇬🇧
The majority of regular people do not want the aspirations of socialist sixth form politics. Trump’s performance in the US will dictate the UK’s direction, particularly if Labour continue to make people less safe and poorer.
Trump only has a majority of 1.4% over Kamala Harris. His cult dies with him.
Good god.
Reform getting a bridgehead in parliament has been bad news for both the tories and Labour because Reform have been seen to be competent parliamentary performers. Now they are seen daily going head to head with mainstream parties, and looking good doing it, the MSP can't denigrate them as fringe loonies as they liked to do so in the past. That Marr thinks they are knocking on the door of number 10 says a lot.
Tories finished now, as Labour is, unfortunately is going to be such a tough time for businesses for the next 3 years or so, lets just hope that Nigel Farage is the next Prime minster, lets just hope,
If he could become head of the civil service then he’d really have some power.
Absolutely he will.
What!!!! We dont have a hard left? What planet is this guy on
Love Nigel he is very down to earth and in touch with the people 😊 the main parties have lost touch with the people - take the people with you not neglect them 😢
and being paid by Nomad Capitalist LLC to promote the interests of HNW economic migrants too..... he's a prime hypocrite who appeals to the disillusioned until they become disillusioned by Deform UK's false promises.....
He went to Dulwich College was a broker on the London metal exchange and a member of the Tory Party and East India Club. Yes, very anti establishment.🤡
Yes
I am continually surprised at the ignorance of French politics coming out of the mouths of paid establishment servents.
I’ve never felt so low since labour have taken over
Try the past 14 years of Tory misrule.
I thought it strange that Marr was sounding sensible, but no he thinks the popular vote is ominous, what a sad little man he is....
The anti sentiment is growing he could definitely usurp and the thing is he has no substance in terms of politics what so ever. his Manifesto or 'contract' was just a complete list of what people want to hear, I doubt he could go for serious governess what so ever, but when the major parties are so unpopular with the people and as a society we are getting poorer and much worse of turning to a populist can definitely happen.
He doesn’t want to be PM, that would be way too much like work. He just wants to work his grift by being in the public eye with as little accountability as he can. Look at his current workshy attitude.
That says a lot about Govements then doesn’t it! Reform brings real change, change that improves the lives of the have nots and everyone in between, not just words that never amount to much plus a they have a great Ally in the new President of the United States. That carries a lot more clout than the political pundits know. 😊
The chattering classes can see coming collapse.
I don’t think your headline here helps much. People often just read headlines and it is helpful for him.
I wish he was prime minister now starmer and the labour party are a load of idiots. Get labour OUT
Yes to prove that he would not be able to (a) cope with being PM and (b) earning money from GB News, offshore funders, etc
@SimonPJohnson Utter crap.
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