Agreed. the only saving grace would be to find out that the batteries are serviceable, as in yeah you'd have to take the cover off and Hopefully find that there's a battery pack that can be removed simply by disconnecting a clip or pulling a cable. if it's solder on it's a loss.
5:40 This would be my biggest concern. The non-replaceable battery guarantees that this will eventually become unusable. I'm glad that speakers like the Soundboks and Mackie Thump Go let you easily swap batteries out.
Rebranding but entering the market with greed your feedback is awesome. They should focus on providing options that give us opportunities to swap batteries or even fix our speakers. I was interested to buy the speaker but I will now have to wait to see if they release something better.
JBL should be everyone’s go to for a battery powered speaker imo. Although LD systems ANNY series is very promising as well, for DJ’ing though I have yet to experience it myself. But they sound very very good
I think it would be good as a fill speaker to put in the opposite corners of the room from your main system. If we were to do that, how would you connect the sound wirelessly? Do you think this would be a good speaker for that? Is there a transmitter that you'd plug from the booth or master out from the controller? I really like the idea of putting speakers on the opposite corners for my events that are over 150ppl and being able to do it wirelessly would be a huge advantage.
I don’t know. As a minirig owner, I’m a fan of the theoretically unlimited modularity. If you want to use more than three of these new wireless speakers, can you do so from a single transmitter? If not, can you hook multiple transmitters to an analog mixer and thereby use more? Do they compete for bandwidth? What’s going to power my mixer for splitting to multiple transmitters? Most of all, why should I buy YOUR proprietary wireless technology?
Hi, great honest review again. Thanks for pointing out the limitations. How does it compare to the Machine Thump Go sound wise? I know you were fans of that. I own one but it is a bit too quite for me at times.
I rather buy the EV everse 12 battery powered and plug in my Xvive in line mode with my Numark go and just make everything wireless. For a less price and will sound better.
Question? I have two of the Everse Eights. When you connect a microphone to one of the Everse, the vocals do not come through to the second paired speaker. Is this something the new wave-eight will do?
No replaceable battery and wattage only shows around 115 , I know its the spl but II don't think it would hold up to 60-80 events a year, and comparing it to a sound box I would consider this a consumer level and not prop product, Everse 8 or 12 to the thump go on the lower end both solid performers my opinion from experience.
Looked this up and really like the features but size is everything. Everyone is releasing 8in speakers but that is small compared to rooms I typically do. Under 12in I just won't go.
Looked at every 8” battery powered speaker, wasn’t happy with any of them. Demo’d the Everse 12 today at GC today, instantly bought 2 of them! Plus, they don’t look like Radio Shack speakers hahaha 😂
Pretty cool speaker but if you have a Bose, Ev,Mackie 8” Battery powered speaker then you may not need this one. Unless you done have the others and are in the market to buy one. I think it’s decent. Thank you for the review Phil! Always on point!
Nice review 👊How low latency is the low latency wireless connection? unnoticable or - if you say, very quickly scratch a hi hat does it become a noticable delay? I could have just asked if the latency is low enough for scratching couldn't I 😂
Hmm seems like I will still prefer the Thump GO or even the YSL EXM Mobile to this due to the build, battery, and sound quality. Just a note, their new tech is called Sonic Link. SoundLink is the Bose product line.
Posdata la proxima vez que suba video-tutoriales estaria bien que pusiese en funcionamiento el producto que explica para que todos/as podamos verlo y escucharlo en pleno funcionamiento para hacernos una mejor idea de que tal bueno ( o no), es gracias
Does AlphaTheta know that "Theta" in Spanish and Portuguese means literally TITS, right? This turns the brand to be the Alpha Tit in spanish and portuguese spoken countries. If it works, why change the formula? Only someone sited at the office, far away from reality of the market, could bring an idea like this....makes me remember when Heinz changed their name....what a disaster. But, hey, who am I to criticize.
We say what we want! Nobody pays us or tells us what is allowed/not allowed in our reviews. If that was the rule, we'd rather not review gear at all. We're paid for 100% by our students 👍
Hmm, to expensive and gimmicky. Just like that Omni Duo. Also people really overrate this wireless thing. As it would be that hard to simply attach two bloody wires.
Hola a mi en particular me parece un equipo muy versatil, y bastante bueno, en sus explicaciones cuenta cosas buenas (ventajas), y cosas no tan buenas que trae el Altavoz, pero habria estado mas completo el video-tutorial si hubiese puesto en marcha el citado Altavoz, para que todos/as pudiesemos haber escuchado como suena en realidad, si bien, o si no tan bien con lo cual asi tan solo con sus explicaciones no vemos el posible potencial que pueda tener este nuevo Altavoz de la Marca AlphaTheta, (colaboradora de Pionner), y que en todo caso como ahora ya venderan sus productos directamente con su marca sin pasar por Pionner supongo que saldran muchos productos de todo tipo y como ha sido habitual en ellos dentro de Pionner seran de calidad y cada dia mejor un saludo Joana d.j. España
I absolutely hate the new company name. It has no flow off the tongue, zero brand recognition and doesn't sound like a music gear manufacturer. You give me the name independently and I would say they make sleep machines, sleep masks and sleep ear plugs. As an EngineDJ user I actually hope this gives some of the other quality gear manufacturers a chance to get some more support from the overall music scene. I have a feeling a lot of places are going to think twice about upgrading there Pioneer Dj gear when they are no longer manufactured by Pioneer and have been sold twice since Pioneer dumped them, not really a good look when the other big guy owns Numark, Denon and Rane and is really pushing new tech across all the brands.
@@digitaldjtips I have a feeling that when the company that bought it from Pioneer resold it they weren't able to transfer the full copyrights to AlphaTheta. The current gear with the Pioneer Dj labels and any tech that might not be released but is currently in manufacturing can and will continue to be Pioneer DJ but all new products cannot carry the branding. I don't see any other reason a company would throw away that brand loyalty and name recognition.
Are they just being intentionally stupide here? INew bane brand, new concepts, but no compability??? That and what you mentioned about the exposed tweet... Its the DJ equivalent of Idiocracy almost at this point... Though, no doubt the "competition" Are probably taking notes if they havent already prepared new product. Exciting times!
@@digitaldjtips no compability with their new ultra low latency wireless battery speakers... I'm just facepalming myself here. Though, otherwise, IT dies look a well built slightly bigger DjGO, so good on Denon to inspire such design in the other producers. Though I'd like to see what Denon has up its skrevet. The competition is playing catchup to five year old tech and time after dont really deliver products that bringa ut all in one box, and with a full arsenal of ports, sockets wifiI etc, except built in HD Dock, blietooth and stems, which I just Hope they got on the way... Preferably with at least eight hours battery life or IT can be run via USB C powerbank.... And perhaps a carbonfibre chassis AS icing on the cake... Is that asking for too much? (I have a longer list in my notebooks) Cheers!🌌🇧🇻
Soundboks: +Louder + Resistant (water / dust) +You can connect more wireless +You can connect 1 soundboks like sub + 2 soundboks and equalise through the app + No problem tweeter + battery removal easy and fast so allow to play for more hours -> but the big advantage is the transmitter? Cmoooon😂
I feel they haven't made anything of quality here, especially to launch their AlphaTheta name on. Im sure the products work great, and for how long who knows, but they definitely look a pile of toys purchased from the toy section of a big box store.
what is this toy all about? You people fhink se don't have anything to do with our hard earn money. This companies keeps on doing the same thing everyday, and expecting us to throw our money away. This is nothing new to talk about. Stop that noise.
The batteries concern me, once they start to fail, can they be replaced without or even with AlphaTheta Care?
Good point, and we don't have an answer to that.
Agreed. the only saving grace would be to find out that the batteries are serviceable, as in yeah you'd have to take the cover off and Hopefully find that there's a battery pack that can be removed simply by disconnecting a clip or pulling a cable. if it's solder on it's a loss.
I was just going to post this. They at least need a 7yr warranty.
5:40 This would be my biggest concern. The non-replaceable battery guarantees that this will eventually become unusable. I'm glad that speakers like the Soundboks and Mackie Thump Go let you easily swap batteries out.
Good point.
Don't forget the EV Everse 8 also has removable battery, and sounds better than the Wave 8 at about half the weight.
Check out the HK Audio Move 8. Its sounds good
@@guysofly4315 interesting. I like the fact that it has one extra channel. I may look for one of these used
@@jlepre752 Everse 8 sounds better? How do you figure? Did you compare them? I did ... and the Wave Eight sounds a LOT better than the Everse 8
honest review....brought up points other reviews didn't
Thanks!
An up to date video with the latest battery powered speakers on the market would be good Phil to get ready for the summer. 🎉
Thanks for the suggestion!
Which DJ controller? is compatible with the speaker? That does fully wireless. Not Bluetooth
Rebranding but entering the market with greed your feedback is awesome. They should focus on providing options that give us opportunities to swap batteries or even fix our speakers. I was interested to buy the speaker but I will now have to wait to see if they release something better.
For many, lack of switchable battery is a thing - can understand why.
Pioneer will learn the hard way the power of a brand name… mark my words…
Something that did occur to us, too - let's see though!
-Pioneer- *AlphaTheta 🤦🏼♂️
I just bought the jbl partybox stage 320, is this unit superior to the partybox for a SINGLE UNIT?
No idea, never tested that one
@@digitaldjtips does it have good quality as a single unit or does it need stereo to shine? Tysm for the answers!!!
04:10 "A toddler with a screwdriver" 🤣🤣🤣
Phil and family live dangerously. lol
Have you tired DJing with the speaker as your booth monitor?
This speaker? Why do you ask?
@@digitaldjtips test the latency. Is it good enough to DJ with. I haven't tried any wireless solutions so I'm skeptical. Lol
JBL should be everyone’s go to for a battery powered speaker imo. Although LD systems ANNY series is very promising as well, for DJ’ing though I have yet to experience it myself. But they sound very very good
Thanks for the tips
I think it would be good as a fill speaker to put in the opposite corners of the room from your main system. If we were to do that, how would you connect the sound wirelessly? Do you think this would be a good speaker for that? Is there a transmitter that you'd plug from the booth or master out from the controller? I really like the idea of putting speakers on the opposite corners for my events that are over 150ppl and being able to do it wirelessly would be a huge advantage.
Yes. this would be able to do that as it comes with a transmitter
I don’t know. As a minirig owner, I’m a fan of the theoretically unlimited modularity. If you want to use more than three of these new wireless speakers, can you do so from a single transmitter? If not, can you hook multiple transmitters to an analog mixer and thereby use more? Do they compete for bandwidth? What’s going to power my mixer for splitting to multiple transmitters? Most of all, why should I buy YOUR proprietary wireless technology?
All fair enough questions .We only got one speaker so cannot comment on the multi-speaker use, but the system seems clever.
Honest review. #respect and thanks.
I appreciate that
I LOVE Humpter DJ and how they reinvented everything. I can’t wait to play my order.
Thanks for this authentic and timely review!
My pleasure!
Hi, great honest review again. Thanks for pointing out the limitations.
How does it compare to the Machine Thump Go sound wise?
I know you were fans of that. I own one but it is a bit too quite for me at times.
You'd probably find this a bit too quiet too. Now, two of these (or those...)
Thanks. Keep up the great work
Did you ever email out or announce the winner of the speakers? Just curious who ended up winning.
www.digitaldjtips.com/win-a-pair-of-wave-eight-speakers/
@@digitaldjtips Thank you so much! Grats Claire!
The price is absolutely outrageous
WHat is the price?
999€
@@mikelo303
$899
The transceiver is pretty cool, but the tweeter and price are what might make me wait to see what version 2.0 of this will be... Thanks Phil.
You're welcome, glad you found this useful.
Hello,
Did you test the latency of the WAVE-EIGHT? how many millisecond ?
Thank you
We did, but we have no easy way of measuring it and they don't publish that figure. It was good enough to DJ with.
How far between the speaker to speaker detect each other. i guess less than 10m so far that can save 10m of cables
10m I believe was the quoted figure.
Its so nice there is XLR input option that amazing
I rather buy the EV everse 12 battery powered and plug in my Xvive in line mode with my Numark go and just make everything wireless. For a less price and will sound better.
That is an interesting speaker, we'll have to take a look at it at some point
The Everse 12 is AMAZING! Demo’d them today at GC, then bought a pair instantly
Hello What is the Price?
Up to date prices in the written review (linked).
@@digitaldjtipsThank you :)
Way Too much ($900)
Question? I have two of the Everse Eights. When you connect a microphone to one of the Everse, the vocals do not come through to the second paired speaker. Is this something the new wave-eight will do?
Good question. I guess it would with the wired XLR out at least, not got two of them here to test though.
PA speakers dont come with dome tweeters often either.
We wouldn't care os much if it were covered up properly
How does SonicLink compare to other low-latency technologies like SKAA, the one used in Soundboks?
We have an article and live show tomorrow comparing them
No replaceable battery and wattage only shows around 115 , I know its the spl but II don't think it would hold up to 60-80 events a year, and comparing it to a sound box I would consider this a consumer level and not prop product, Everse 8 or 12 to the thump go on the lower end both solid performers my opinion from experience.
Thanks for your feedback.
Looked this up and really like the features but size is everything. Everyone is releasing 8in speakers but that is small compared to rooms I typically do. Under 12in I just won't go.
Looked at every 8” battery powered speaker, wasn’t happy with any of them. Demo’d the Everse 12 today at GC today, instantly bought 2 of them! Plus, they don’t look like Radio Shack speakers hahaha 😂
what about how it sounds ?
Check out our written review for more details
@@digitaldjtips why didn't you power it off?? it's like selling a car without a test drive
Pretty cool speaker but if you have a Bose, Ev,Mackie 8” Battery powered speaker then you may not need this one. Unless you done have the others and are in the market to buy one. I think it’s decent. Thank you for the review Phil! Always on point!
Thanks DJ Benny Swift!
I can buy the 2 battery powered mackie’s and the alto stealth 1 for less than
I hope they bring out a transmitter & reciever set to use on existing sound systems
Good point!
great review. looks like everyone is hesitant to buy in on AlphaTheta. (Pioneer DJ Fan) BTW, interested in selling that A-track that just sits there?
Ha, no - all gear here are review samples, owned by the manufacturers.
How much is it?
Check written review for up to date pricing
max continuous SPL? Frequency response?
No figures given in the specs sadly
hmmmm, always makes me suspicious that!@@digitaldjtips
So this is 100 watts, but what is the SPL? I don't think it will beat the KING of this category. The Everse 8.
No SPL, we did look for it to report to you.
that's a bit unusual that this very important bit of information, is nowhere to be found@@digitaldjtips
Nice review 👊How low latency is the low latency wireless connection? unnoticable or - if you say, very quickly scratch a hi hat does it become a noticable delay?
I could have just asked if the latency is low enough for scratching couldn't I 😂
It is not 100% perfect but very close. I think you could live with it. They do not give a measurement to share sadly.
Hmm seems like I will still prefer the Thump GO or even the YSL EXM Mobile to this due to the build, battery, and sound quality.
Just a note, their new tech is called Sonic Link. SoundLink is the Bose product line.
Whoops, you're right! thanks for the spot.
I just got the Everse 12 in the mail lol. This has no XLR input.
It has two input and 1 out xlr
You’re gunna love the Everse 12’s. Picked up two of them today!
Its huge. Hope they make a smaller version.
Not really, we've seen much bigger speakers. It's about airport trolley-sized (bit deeper).
Posdata la proxima vez que suba video-tutoriales estaria bien que pusiese en funcionamiento el producto que explica para que todos/as podamos verlo y escucharlo en pleno funcionamiento para hacernos una mejor idea de que tal bueno ( o no), es gracias
You're welcome, glad it was useful
what is the power in RMS watts? tks Phill
Does AlphaTheta know that "Theta" in Spanish and Portuguese means literally TITS, right? This turns the brand to be the Alpha Tit in spanish and portuguese spoken countries.
If it works, why change the formula? Only someone sited at the office, far away from reality of the market, could bring an idea like this....makes me remember when Heinz changed their name....what a disaster. But, hey, who am I to criticize.
Theta is a Greek letter
@@samirait-kaci-gf3bn I'm aware of it, but that doesn't take the oral meaning of it, or does it?
This guy lmao
Wish they gave this a back pack attachment
I would’ve liked a much more in-depth review on the sound quality. It is a speaker after all.
Thanks for your feedback
looks like a cheap party/karaoke speaker to me
Reckon as a companion to the Duos this speaker should have been smaller and more portable - maybe similar size to the Bose S1 Pro
You did compare it to Soundboks! I get the impression other channels are not allowed to mention the competition. 🌈
We say what we want! Nobody pays us or tells us what is allowed/not allowed in our reviews. If that was the rule, we'd rather not review gear at all. We're paid for 100% by our students 👍
Hmm, to expensive and gimmicky. Just like that Omni Duo.
Also people really overrate this wireless thing. As it would be that hard to simply attach two bloody wires.
You say that but it's not always safe/practical.
Can’t believe they didn’t put the new sound link tech in the DJ controller… could have been an epic launch… ended up pal mal
Yea, we think that is a "miss", too
Hola a mi en particular me parece un equipo muy versatil, y bastante bueno, en sus explicaciones cuenta cosas buenas (ventajas), y cosas no tan buenas que trae el Altavoz, pero habria estado mas completo el video-tutorial si hubiese puesto en marcha el citado Altavoz, para que todos/as pudiesemos haber escuchado como suena en realidad, si bien, o si no tan bien con lo cual asi tan solo con sus explicaciones no vemos el posible potencial que pueda tener este nuevo Altavoz de la Marca AlphaTheta, (colaboradora de Pionner), y que en todo caso como ahora ya venderan sus productos directamente con su marca sin pasar por Pionner supongo que saldran muchos productos de todo tipo y como ha sido habitual en ellos dentro de Pionner seran de calidad y cada dia mejor un saludo Joana d.j. España
I absolutely hate the new company name. It has no flow off the tongue, zero brand recognition and doesn't sound like a music gear manufacturer. You give me the name independently and I would say they make sleep machines, sleep masks and sleep ear plugs. As an EngineDJ user I actually hope this gives some of the other quality gear manufacturers a chance to get some more support from the overall music scene. I have a feeling a lot of places are going to think twice about upgrading there Pioneer Dj gear when they are no longer manufactured by Pioneer and have been sold twice since Pioneer dumped them, not really a good look when the other big guy owns Numark, Denon and Rane and is really pushing new tech across all the brands.
The company says it will make gear under both names, but we will see.
@@digitaldjtips I have a feeling that when the company that bought it from Pioneer resold it they weren't able to transfer the full copyrights to AlphaTheta. The current gear with the Pioneer Dj labels and any tech that might not be released but is currently in manufacturing can and will continue to be Pioneer DJ but all new products cannot carry the branding. I don't see any other reason a company would throw away that brand loyalty and name recognition.
And this is the company that serato sold out to lmao!
Why not just have the Sonic link built into the controller. This way it makes sense to buy the speaker! 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Our thoughts exactly.
@@digitaldjtips I don’t think it’s DJs designing these controllers 🤦🏾♂️
Put an Imager plugin on you main out and the MONO😀 is back
I’m going to put a pioneer dj sticker on it.
Ha ha!
Mental note: don't finger your speakers (wait what?)
All kinds of wrong, Pablo!
Are they just being intentionally stupide here? INew bane brand, new concepts, but no compability??? That and what you mentioned about the exposed tweet... Its the DJ equivalent of Idiocracy almost at this point... Though, no doubt the "competition" Are probably taking notes if they havent already prepared new product. Exciting times!
What do you mean by "no compatability"?
@@digitaldjtips no compability with their new ultra low latency wireless battery speakers... I'm just facepalming myself here.
Though, otherwise, IT dies look a well built slightly bigger DjGO, so good on Denon to inspire such design in the other producers.
Though I'd like to see what Denon has up its skrevet.
The competition is playing catchup to five year old tech and time after dont really deliver products that bringa ut all in one box, and with a full arsenal of ports, sockets wifiI etc, except built in HD Dock, blietooth and stems, which I just Hope they got on the way... Preferably with at least eight hours battery life or IT can be run via USB C powerbank.... And perhaps a carbonfibre chassis AS icing on the cake...
Is that asking for too much?
(I have a longer list in my notebooks)
Cheers!🌌🇧🇻
Soundboks:
+Louder
+ Resistant (water / dust)
+You can connect more wireless
+You can connect 1 soundboks like sub + 2 soundboks and equalise through the app
+ No problem tweeter
+ battery removal easy and fast so allow to play for more hours
-> but the big advantage is the transmitter?
Cmoooon😂
All fair points, we are big fans of Soundboks, which you’d see in our review
A toddler with a screwdriver
Classic example 😂
LOL yeah as I said that I thought, "Who would give a toddler a sharp screwdriver?" Me, obviously. 🤣
@@digitaldjtips xD 😄
Couldn't they have made it uglier?
We quite like the look, reminds us of Funktion 1 club speakers
Nah, I rather get Soundbok speakers. ALPHA Lama not a great start.
Fair enough
Thought exactly the same I would rather have the cables.
looks like a karaoke speaker
Pioneer. Industry standard. That hasn't a standard anything and now thinks it's a speaker manufacturer. And it's not denon. Sigh.
U are damagin that mixer s faders, leaving a controller on it! Cardinal sin!
No I am not
@@digitaldjtips how you are so sure about it?
No comparison to Yamaha Stagepas 200.
I feel they haven't made anything of quality here, especially to launch their AlphaTheta name on. Im sure the products work great, and for how long who knows, but they definitely look a pile of toys purchased from the toy section of a big box store.
We like the look of the speaker, just a shame about that exposed tweeter for us!
Pop or table battery powered speakers that too have to be cuts careful with. 😂 hey alpha whatever just sell us the transmitter. 🤷🏽♂️
OMG . what a crap 😱
what is this toy all about? You people fhink se don't have anything to do with our hard earn money. This companies keeps on doing the same thing everyday, and expecting us to throw our money away. This is nothing new to talk about. Stop that noise.
Interesting - please let us know if you find out.anything more about this.
"plastic, solid build" if it was a different brand you'll be trashing it cuz its plastic...and you know it
Don't make yourself look silly now. Many modern speakers are plastic rather than wood etc. We have no issue with that.
take that speaker back to the 90's and leave it there, looks like crap
Guess these things are subjective