Road Down Memory Lane | Unspoken Truth #17
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Road Down Memory Lane will be a series of speedpaints remembering memorable scenes of each episode. I'll be adding in the description some commentary regarding the drawing if you feel like reading it.
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Prior to the duel, Copper had agreed to lose the duel between him and his twin Agate, after she convinced him that keeping the barrier closed was the best for their people at the moment
However, still believing he was in the right he broke his promise and used his full force to impose himself as the winner of the duel.
The betrayal and humilliation drove Agate away making her lose her trait in the process
When she came back, she wasn't herself anymore
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She was something else...
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Agate losing her trait because of the betrayal of her sibling is one of the best retcons I have ever seen. It makes way more sense than her just getting salty because she lost. It also adds some shades of grey to the situation. On top of that it puts into perspective how powerful determination is if Agate only agreed to fight because she thought that the duel was rigged.
I’m not sure if I’d call this a retcon, as the starting prompt said humiliation still played a role. It’s more of an addition/add on to the current lore.
That said, I definitely agree it helps make Agate a better character and makes her reaction more understandable.
How did he betray her?, Nvm read description
It adds shades of -Jessica- Grey
@@lywrinz3954 good one
So we went from Copper breaking his promise, to Chara keeping his promise. SYMBOLISM
Also the tear on her face when she realized Copper betrayed her. And the shadows around copper and the glowing red weapons adding to it.
Agathe brought this to herself, she challenged him and he accepted, but at the last second told him to make her win because keeping the monsters underground was the best for the moment, so humiliation would fall into copper instead, it just shows that Agathe was always a COWARD and always had FEAR within her .
@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 Remember that she had some sort of mental condition. It was sort of Copper's fault too because he knew that doing something like that would really hurt her mentally, yet he betrayed her. She isn't a coward and I don't think she always had fear within her, she wanted Copper to fear her after the fight so she created the fear soul.
@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146right.
it always seemed to me that these twins had some kind of abnormalities
makes me wonder if agate only lost because she went in without expecting to face his full power or have to hurt him, considering she's been explicitly stated as stronger and more talented than him before, with him only succeeding in life because he refused to give up and people fawned over him
on the flip side i wonder if copper only started using his full power because agate started enjoying the fight a little too much and treating it as payback for all the times she was completely disregarded because of her brother's red soul
would love to see more of the characters' thought processes/inner monologues in a fully animated/storyboarded version of the duel someday
That 3rd paragraph is *very* interesting.
I almost forgot Season 2 partially happened because Agate was salty.
Edit: that said looking at the text wtf Copper.
so basically if Copper kept the promise....NONE OF THIS WOULD'VE HAPPENED!?!?
Ironic, isn't it?
Why the determination soul user have everyone this thing of the promises? it make no sense
BRRRROOOOOOOO
DAMMN. And to think that we were all thinking this was Agate’s fault.
What about the monsters underground though. I don't think they would've been freed.
I really liked the glitching effect in the beginning. It’s as if it showed that this exact moment was the turning point.
it's nice to see stuff that isn't directly related to UT. Seeing new characters is always ̶a̶ ̶g̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶o̶p̶p̶o̶r̶t̶u̶n̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶m̶u̶r̶d̶e̶r̶ a refreshing experience.
Good comment, its always nice to see fellow kille- I MEAN, FANS OF ANIMATIONS! ahahaaha.
@@ananogueira2962 (May I Join In the Joke) ESPECIALLY if it involves 6 children-
So true
This is kinda directly related to Undertale as Copper and Agate have red and orange souls and they're based on two humans seen in the story intro of Undertale (the one wielding a sword and the one wielding a staff and using it to create the barrier)...
Actually this is pretty much related to Undertale tbh
@@koumei_mei You just HAD to argue, didn't you? Fine, here's my rebuttal:
Copper and Agate are entities that exist only in Glitchtale, not Undertale. You said yourself that they're BASED on two of the humans seen in the intro segment of Undertale. This does not mean Copper and Agate exist in Undertale.
Their SOULS are not explicitly seen, only their magical attacks, something that exists once again, only in Glitchtale. Don't get me wrong, it's IMPLIED that humans could use magic during ages long ago, but Undertale doesn't provide proof of Copper and Agate's existence, as well as whether or not they could cast magic.
Lastly, Camila Cuevas is NOT Toby Fox. None of the events in Glitchtale are canonical to Undertale whatsoever. Certain characters exist within both universes, such as Sans, Frisk, Asriel, Chara, etc, but others are shrouded in mystery, such as Gaster.
Gaster is an entity referenced in Undertale, but elaborated upon in Glitchtale. Just because Gaster uses hands to cast magic in Glitchtale doesn't mean he can do that in Undertale. In fact, one of the fan interpreations of Gaster, Spr_mysteryman's only interation has highly specific requirements, and even then, the interaction shows the mysteryman's sprite changing and disappearing.
Back to Copper and Agate; they may look like the humans seen in the introduction of Undertale, and it's likely that in Glitchtale they ARE those people, but that doesn't mean Copper and Agate are the same in Undertale. Like Spr_mysteryman, who people interpret as Gaster, the humans seen in the introduction of Undertale do not cast magic.
and to REALLY back my point, even if the SOULS of Agate and Copper were visible in this speedpaint, which they aren't, that doesn't mean they could cast the same magic in Undertale.
Okay, I'm done, or am I?
In my comment, I said something that isn't *DIRECTLY* related to Undertale. Of course there are going to be indirect connections which I can't explain away with ease, if at all. The indirect connections being of course, Agate and Copper, and the humans in the Intro segment. It took me a while to prove that they may be Copper and Agate in Glitchtale history, but not in Undertale.
TL;DR: Agate and Copper do not exist in Undertale, their SOULs are not visible in this speedpaint, Camila and Toby are different people, Gaster is a fan interpretation of a sprite, and I said in my original comment "Not Directly related to Undertale", which means there are going to be indirect relations to Undertale and Glitchtale in the speedpaint.
Memories broken
The truth goes unspoken
I even forgotten my name
I don't know the season
Or what is the reason
I'm standing here holding my blade
There you are, I was expecting that I would find you here
A DESOLATE PLACE (PLACE)
WITHOUT ANY TRACE (TRACE)
ITS ONLY THE COLD WIND I FEEL
IT'S ME THAT I SPITE AS I STAND HERE AND FIGHT
THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL
THERE WILL BE BLOOD-SHED
THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD
The Duel that decided the Fate of the Future.
That which shows courage towards one thing is not guaranteed to show courage towards another.
Agate Lightvale was a Brave Soul, 🧡 however her Bravery was best focused in the realm of the material not the immaterial. It was that flaw that Copper failed to see…
Only after his victory was pronounced and his vision for peace between Humans and Monsters was within his grasp did he feel the shame of what he had lost, his only family, his only sister. When she returned he vowed to make amends, to do whatever it took to make sure she would never leave his side again…
But by then it was too late… 💓
Not the only family and sister
"His determination had no limits."
Sometimes wish I could hug Agate to prevent what happens after
It makes more sense now why in Cami's video " The Black Beast" at the end of the video you can see it says History Books never tell the full truth. Now we know why Agate did this. Thx Cami for all the hidden details u put in ur videos
So Copper broke his word, humiliated his sister and knowingly broke her trust in him
Just so he could have a "I'll prove I'm right" moment that didnt even come in the end
Really shows that even if you are the most determined person on the planet doesnt mean you are infallible and you are able to make mistakes and bad choices
By going along with his decision he demonstrated that he didnt know his sister nearly well enough to predict how she would react to such a loss and humiliation
Which is a bit weird given that they are both twin siblings additionally and spent a lot of family time together raising Amber
Agate was lied to, she thought she was going in this fight with the ability to win, to keep harmony, to keep people safe from the monsters. But her brother just immediately one upped her because he wanted to drive the point that his determination knows no bounds, BOTH ARE BAD. If he didn't lie, Agate wouldn't have ran away in attempts to find something to come and beat him with. Agate harbored so much hatred towards him, and this retcon makes it make more sense. Its better than what it originally was thought to be, that Agate was just excessively salty, but she had a reason to now. She was betrayed by someone she thought was going to upkeep their promise, and ruined her whole life as a ruler/wizard. Her way of getting payback IS DEFINITELY WRONG. But it feels..more organic.
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¡Oh yeah! Al fin este genial dibujo. Copper es tan badass que con su poder puede intimidar al rasgo de valentía. Y Agate esta genial dibujada, su diseño es excelente, y realmente se ve la presión que Copper le ejerce a ella. La pose es genial y los detalles de la ropa e iluminación y sombras son hermosos.
As expected, another masterpiece.
So DT can create all kinds of weapons? I thought only a sword, shield and knives.
Nice to see more variety in terms of weapons for determination. Hope we can see more of its full potential.
I think it just depends on what the determination soul holder is more connected to or what they want to create/is needed at the time. Like when Chara had a sword _and_ a knife in the fight against Asriel if I remember right.
I really like this change. It makes a lot more sense that Agate would be more tempted to do what she did because of the betrayal rather than just losing the battle. On the flip side, what Copper did makes total sense too. Being a red soul, I could totally see him doing whatever it takes to win, especially in a crucial situation like this where he’s fighting for what he believes in. He probably didn’t even enjoy betraying his sister, but just saw it as a necessary evil for the sake of what he believed was the greater good. It makes the cause and effect of the situation feel so much more natural and I love it! Also Copper looks lowkey scary here which really represents how raw determination can be scary sometimes. We’ve certainly seen that before in this series. Even though Frisk increased his LV to try to kill Betty, which he believed was the greater good, he made a dark and risky decision to do so and looked scary as fuck in the process.
For me the "deal" between copper and agate is obviously a retcon since it was never mentioned in the two tragedy text and in the glitchtale origins who described the event of the battles but it pose another problem, why Agate has even asked to battle Copper if she knew she were going to lose?
The point of that battle was to show the arrogance of agate who thought she could have beat her brother and don't tell something like "she realised she were going to lose so she ask her brother to lose the duel" she know and live with her brothers for two decades and she has even fight in a wars with him, she know exactly how powerful he is so I don't understand her choice.
I think this retcon is here to show that copper has betrayed Agate and that Agate has good intention but again this is totally subverted when we know that she has killed Amber who did nothing and her brother who just tell a lie and was also in his right to win the duel, in fact it also proves again that Agate is stupid and pathetic since she was the one who proposed a duel she knew she were going to lose but pathetically beg to her opponents to win the fight by trying to switch side Copper.
Like you said, Amber didn’t do anything wrong. But Agate killed Amber out of spite and to weaken Copper. Because basically, that’s his little sister. I get why he’d be so devastated to lose her. Wouldn’t you? That’s why Agate did it. Agate was insane, and didn’t care who died by her hands.
@@Nx3ne101 Which is show us her monstrous side and the reason why I find this retcon bad since this is just to make us feel bad for a character that don't deserve it.
Another retcon I also find, how the hell copper can invoke others weapons? We never saw a determination souls doing that in Glitchtales and even when Amber was in danger he never use them to protect her.
@@maxicheese4609 I’m not sure why, but maybe determination is capable of summoning other weapons? Or it’s just the art. Otherwise, I don’t know.
@@Nx3ne101 I think the weapons are what make copper unique. He gets multiple everyone else gets one or two
@@thenobody7509 that is true
Coming back to this speedpaint when I realized that Copper has the same trick with the weapons in the air that Irral does.
I can't wait to see this scene in the series.
Holy shit the lore reveal
Yooo my notifications are lightning speed
Oooo i like the idea of copper being able to wield multiple different kinds of weapons at the same time. reminds me of Noctis from FFXV with that
Hm guess Celeste music is a common in these
Hey Cami! It would be awesome to see you reanimate Megalomaniac, we can see just how much your animation has improved!
Loving the moral gray areas here!
We don’t forget Camilla 💀
Forget what?
@@tigerelly6778 Enabled and defended several child predators on her discord server and lied about it when called out.
Can you guys just stop about that. Everyone make mistakes. Maybe you would have made the same thing if u were in the same situation. Plus its already known that discord is full of pedos. The teens should have been more careful and told their parents about it. So yeah stop acting like what cami did was a crime because most people did one on earth.. I know this is unrelated but watching porn under 18 is a crime sonce you're not allowed to do that bit most people watch that anyways. Im not saying cami is innocent but you should stop overreacting and be more mature. Spreading negativity won't help. It's honestly sad that we just try to find comments about the video to understand each characters and we have to find all of your comments about that event. Even I, 15 yrs old understand how it would have been for Cami to deal with this situation so im not in place to tell her anything. So yeah please stop doing that guys because there is already videos talking about this topic.
@@branflakes8402 oh. I don’t have discord so I’m completely unaware…would she really do that? Maybe she ignored the conversations on discord about it than got rid of the problem quietly..right?
you mean you have no life and are just hopping on the bandwagon of stupid youtube drama. have you seen the types of people who created those "exposed" videos of her? they are ALL idiots.
Kinda hard to not forget something that never existed in the firstplace.
Copper created 7 different weapons with his magic. Is that unique to Determination or can all traits do that?
Just DT.
Probably just Determination since it’s meant to be the strongest. (And in GT lore, a perfect balance between the other 6 traits.)
Its over Anakin, I have the high ground!
You're underestimate my power!
Don't try it!
Lol
Bro don’t you defend predators?
Can you guys just stop about that. Everyone make mistakes. Maybe you would have made the same thing if u were in the same situation. Plus its already known that discord is full of pedos. The teens should have been more careful and told their parents about it. So yeah stop acting like what cami did was a crime because most people did one on earth.. I know this is unrelated but watching porn under 18 is a crime since you're not allowed to do that bit most people watch that anyways. Im not saying cami is innocent but you should stop overreacting and be more mature. Spreading negativity won't help. It's honestly sad that we just try to find comments about the video to understand each characters and we have to find all of your comments about that event. Even I, 15 yrs old understand how it would have been for Cami to deal with this situation so im not in place to tell her anything. So yeah please stop doing that guys because there is already videos talking about this topic.
Drama has spread, and they do seem to.
lol she went into too much past now we are in mostly unknown territory
Just by the title of the video I knew I would find someone saying that there would be bloodshed
Agathe vs Copper
COPPER WİN BUT...
Copper seems to be a way more powerfull then Frisk or Chara, since he can summon lots of different weapons at the same time and even control some of them withou having to holt them.
Frisk and Chara could possibly both be able to do that too. They probably just haven't mastered their soul yet.
Chara crushed them all
we are entering -new- unknown territory
When I saw the intro:yAaYaYyaAaYaA
Edit:I just remembered that the name 'Agate' meaning is related to kindness
Cual fue la promesa rota de cooper?
Bruh DETERMINITION soul can creat another weapons!?
Did the past before the Game truly happen or was it simply a blank slate the System was forced to fill out?
It was a blank slate, however due to Frisk's actions, that story from the past was created so that it would exist, bete noire and kill Frisk so that the game could be repaired.
Wasn't expecting Celeste 2B side as a backgroud track, but boi does it fit
Agate will always remain my favourite wizard, no matter what. Loving the look so far. 💜
Te quedo muy bien porfa un corazon
My boi be making a lot of oopsies. 😬
Wait, can determination choose whatever weapon they want then?
feeling of sadness when sans dies (old glitchtale/new glitchtale)
The Legend say frisk still in the void and she/him are play with core or ink
💀💀💀💀
So copper can create more then just a sword and shield. Interesting
Falta para leer en español 😬🥲
Psdt: me encanta esta serie, y busco la forma de entenderla 😁
hey camila maybe you could do deltaglich?
Pequeña Sierras Etiquete ❤ 0:13
AYY THE COLOR SHIFTS ON THE TEXT IN THE BEGINNING
I see you 👀🫡
I'm anxious
The Background music makes me think in Cult Of The Lamb
Kamila doing good stuff again with my beloved psyhopath!
*camila
absolutely poggers 👌
Man this is crazy good
I see u everywhere ;-;
Just give us a remake of season 1
Plz
No forcing, right? Hm?
@@tigerelly6778 of course no forcing
But this would be cool
@@soul-UT The tone sounded a bit off that’s all, it would be cool I agree 😊
LOREEEEE
Also yay celeaste b side music :D
OwO
Say "Hi"
Camila you have come a long way I just wanted to say thanks for the great content
Best Painter:Camila Cuevas
Algum br?
That’s awesome
Yay, BETRAYAL!
Why Orange soul Has spear
memory broken the truth goes unspoken
Camila make crossover Glitchtale x Madness Combat i know you were watching Madness Combat
ok
Y al final Alina y Amber y frisk que pasaron con ellos los extraño y alphys y sans aparezcan como quisieran que estén todos ellos ... Y que estén vivos ... Y también Cooper y agate buee ... Etc
I like the music
after Mandela Catalogue , "When she came back, she wasn't herself anymore", it sound different
I am Chicken
This art is very detailed as always.👍
I have a little question
Are you will remake glitchtale?
당신은 매우 그림을 잘그려요!
그림이 매우 이뻐요!❤❤❤
그림을 잘 그리는 방법 같은게 있나요?
Turkey needs help, please hear our voice! More than 20000 people died due to the earthquake and we are still looking for survivors, please let the world hear our cry for help!
I have an idea for another glichtale EP how about Betty come back to life as amber I'm using a translator so I don't know if it's right
Why every determination soul user have this thing of the promises? it make no sense i mean i understand than there can be this kind of thing in the word but only them for we seen (expet jesica) all the others are only determinatiin users
Video so great and interesting Camila Cuevas and God grant you health and you perfect animatior bloger in youtube and we love you Camila Cuevas💖👍😊!!!
shouldn't love her when she's a proven podophile
I'm waiting for the season 3😭 plss can you do the ep 1 and 2 of gt
just a question, now that you have gotten so much better at animating, maybe you could try reanimating the bete noire vs Frisk fight?
What time the glitchtale next part come
We all know what happens next dont we
What happened?
the poster link goes to megalomaniac not this image.
Please glitchtale season 4
Unspoken rizz
Of course it turned out cool...
Awesome!
Oh no..
boring
Plsss gliçtale
I feel like the series kinda lost the point considering how many original characters are added.. it's cool but uh.. idk feels weird and a little boring
Humans can't use magic
things are different here.
So how was the MAGICAL barrier created?
@@Bongetta hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
@@Bongetta Actually the barrier is made of souls power not magic
@@creepy227 it says in the opening of the main game that they were wizards, implying the use of magic
2 years later and its still mid
With the current quality, I think you should remake from ss1-ss2 it will be great and like a full anime 👍