Scottish nationalism in crisis

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2024
  • The powerful rise of the Scottish independence movement once struck fear into the British ruling class, threatening to break the United Kingdom and raise the rebellious spirit of the working class.
    Nearly ten years since the referendum that unleashed opposition to Tory Britain, and raised the Scottish National Party to unprecedented support, the movement is at a crossroads.
    The SNP leadership clique have proven themselves to be politically bankrupt, unable to retain their rosy reformist image as they carry out attacks on the working class, and completely lack any sincere strategy for the independence movement.
    In this talk, Shaun Morris will discusses the crisis faced by Scottish nationalism, and why we can look toward the class struggle for a way forward for the fight for independence.
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Комментарии • 49

  • @stuartjackson8091
    @stuartjackson8091 2 месяца назад +4

    The national movement for independence isn't in crisis, support for independence is ahead in the latest poll, many have been look warm with the snp from before 2014, especially after sturgeon, it just what's going to fill the void it's created, from what I can feel a nationalist that is more left and nationalist, not social democrats and liberal like the SNP will take a roll, more like Irish republicans used to be 30 years ago, civic nationalism has failed, it would have needed the British to play ball, and we have to many raw materials and a nuclear base for you Brits to do that. We Scots have to except that reality, maybe direct action has to take place.

    • @freddiemedley5580
      @freddiemedley5580 2 месяца назад

      Scotland has way more wealth and power then us in the North and East Midlands. So, why do you deserve more atonimy then us?
      Also why does Scotland want independence? And don't give me "FREEDOM!" what do you actually want? Is it just more atonimy? And if so we'd like that as well, so why don't we instead of having Scotland leave the UK, rebrand it into something similar to pre 1066 England. where we have strong semi independent regions governing themselves while Wessex or Londina overseas everything?
      That way we could all enjoy the right to govern ourselves, while still having the protection and semi unity that the UK gives us.

    • @ginch8300
      @ginch8300 Месяц назад

      @@freddiemedley5580 Because the Scottish want to get away as far as possible from those slug parasites in Westminster. Even if they're just replacing one ruling elite with another, it's completely justified to want to get away from England's brainrot. England alone caused Brexit and England will suffer from it, alone.

    • @stuartjackson8091
      @stuartjackson8091 Месяц назад +2

      @@freddiemedley5580 your not a nation, you're just one part of England, it's up to you English to sort out your own country and leave the others to sort themselves out, you lot should of voted exit not Brexit, and have a plan before you jump.

    • @freddiemedley5580
      @freddiemedley5580 Месяц назад

      @@stuartjackson8091Sorry but mabye instead of branding me as a Brexiter you should answer my questions.
      What do you actually want from Independence? And is it possible you could get that while remaining a part of the UK? We need to find a middle ground here as if we don't, the beautiful country of Scotland will become split in half just like Ireland and Northern Ireland did.

    • @freddiemedley5580
      @freddiemedley5580 Месяц назад

      ​@@ginch8300let's move away from the name calling and word soup. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM INDEPENDENCE? AND CAN YOU GET THAT WHILE REMAINING IN THE UK?
      Also for the record Wales voted for Brexit as well. And 800,000 Scots live in England, so do you really want to make 800,000 of your peoples lives harder? Trust me its much simpler and better for us all if we reform the UK, rather than destroy it

  • @numbersix8919
    @numbersix8919 2 месяца назад +2

    So you're against petite bourgeois nationalism. What's your stance on China and Russia again?

    • @bkr0127
      @bkr0127 2 месяца назад +5

      We oppose the capitalist class in all imperialist countries.

    • @numbersix8919
      @numbersix8919 2 месяца назад +2

      @@bkr0127 So, aligned with the global imperial hegemon in its final struggle to achieve total dominance over the human race. Got it!

    • @barneys706
      @barneys706 2 месяца назад +2

      @@numbersix8919 Please explain citing Lenin and Marx how we should support one bourgeois bloc against the other bourgeois rival bloc? Oh right, you can't, because they never argued that! You must love Bernstein. Or hate reading in general.

    • @numbersix8919
      @numbersix8919 2 месяца назад +2

      @barneys706 I already know your position. My position is actually anti-imperialist. The US is not just a bloc.

    • @bkr0127
      @bkr0127 2 месяца назад +4

      @@numbersix8919 If you support Russian and Chinese imperialism, you are not an anti- imperialist

  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 Месяц назад +2

    I'm sorry but your commentator is utterly clueless about Scottish politics...I'm VERY disappointed by this lack of knowledge, he sounds like a tory ffs.. shockingly bad video 😡

  • @agehek
    @agehek 2 месяца назад +2

    Scottish Trotskyism in crisis??😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮

    • @0NEisN0THING
      @0NEisN0THING Месяц назад

      How unscientific. You need to improve your debating.
      You talk like a child, and seem rather emotive.

    • @agehek
      @agehek Месяц назад

      @@0NEisN0THING TROTSKYITE!!!!??!!!😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮😂

    • @agehek
      @agehek Месяц назад

      @@0NEisN0THING I find this statement extremely elitist and counted productive to your cause.
      The main way to raise popularity for a revolution is for the working class to support it. This being said the working class is often less educated than the bourgeoisie and therefore will have less "scientific" points. To say that they are "like a child" is almost counter-revolutionary. Furthermore your profile picture has a soviet emblem meaning you are a supporter of socialism in 1 country and you should be against any form of nationalism as well as Trotskyites which this organisation are.

    • @0NEisN0THING
      @0NEisN0THING Месяц назад

      @@agehek You call me elitist then claim the working class is less educated.
      I have no time for such madness. I will adapt my tone accordingly, such is very basic socialising. If I am in a logical debate, I can relax speak concisely.
      Lenin himself advocated against watering down of revolutionary language such as 'Dictatorship of the proletariat' and mode of production, which was called the system of industry in the communist manefesto when it was required to appeal to the masses. Read the room. Adapt. We are NOT mensheviks comrade.
      Here we see hypocrisy and revisionism.
      Such an argument holds no weight and is based off assumption.
      Please forgive my tone. You mean well, and are a good comrade trying, but we must be firm in Lenins teachings.
      We have too much at stake to 'blunt our blade' as ive heard comrades in lectures call it

  • @abody499
    @abody499 Месяц назад

    polidical
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    reporded
    5:31 - wait what? yeah the SNP are the elected gov, that's why the party controls the state bureaucracy. what exactly are you trying to say about the separation of state power there? what examples can you cite that show there is no separation of power? I don't think you even understand what that is supposed to mean. Locke argued that the legislative function and executive branch of government should be separate to ensure that a clearly defined programme for government is followed, rather than any arbitrary rule. They're implementing what they possibly can from their manifesto, i.e. the "clearly defined programme". The fact that they are not a majority party in parliament means they've not been able to get it all through. Then additionally there's interference from London on devolved matters. What are you even talking about? You're using a lot of words to say nothing "and so on". And so on? what are you talking about?
    Modor home
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    How is it a "crisis of reformism"? In "the Manifesto", Marx actually took a somewhat reformist position, advocating such guideline measures as progressive taxation of business and abolition of inheritance rather than simply "seizing the means of production", because he clearly knew the political consequences of such acts, which in today's context can be seen in the likes of the media responses to the 2014 referendum and to Corbyn's attempts to win elections. So call it what you like, there's no way to escape the material circumstances of where we are now and therefore the realistic path to where the Marxist left want to be requiring processes of reform.
    nineteen ninedes
    You weren't around in the 80s to know anything about "tartan tories".
    voders
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    bud the result
    How does the SNP represent "the establishment" when their power is curtailed by London, i.e. "the establishment"?
    secret meedings
    creaded
    accoundancy
    peddy bourgeois
    austeridy cuts
    So let's get this straight, the block grant is decided on Westminster spending, which has been driven down by ideological austerity, thus resulting in cuts to the Holyrood budget, but for Shaun Morris, this is somehow the Scottish government's fault. This Shaun Morris character must know that he is talking complete nonsense. Holyrood cannot create its own money, and can only tweak income tax to raise funds, so cuts to the block grant have no serious mechanism for mitigation.
    legidimate
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    For a self-defined Marxist, Shaun Morris certainly perpetuates some amount of false consciousness.

    • @0NEisN0THING
      @0NEisN0THING Месяц назад

      You werent around for most of human history so you cant talk about it according to your hyoocrisy.

  • @tanujSE
    @tanujSE 2 месяца назад +1

    How much communism is in damage, you don't discuss that

    • @barneys706
      @barneys706 2 месяца назад +8

      What you just said makes no sense.

    • @tanujSE
      @tanujSE 2 месяца назад

      @@barneys706 Everytime I don't have to make much sense other than fuck as communism itself makes no sense when capitalist are under class formation

    • @bkr0127
      @bkr0127 2 месяца назад +6

      The Communist movement is growing rapidly due to the crisis in capitalism. A video on Communism in Crisis wouldn't make sense because it isn't.

    • @freddiemedley5580
      @freddiemedley5580 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@bkr0127how many communist countries are there left in the world? What 5, China, Cuba, Laoes, Vietnam and North Korea. Don't seem to be growing to me.
      Also in all the former Communist countries, Communism is hated like the plauge with them all turning far right, and occasionally faccist. So, I don't see (apart from a few basement dweller second thought fans) how its growing. Just look at Sweden, a few years ago they had a far left group that would fight the rising faccists in that country, and now you can't find out anything about them... While the faccists are still very much there

    • @TheScottishBOLSHEVIK
      @TheScottishBOLSHEVIK 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bkr0127 Exactly, and I can further back this fact I went from at 14ish being pro snp peo indy ref 2 knob, to a soc-dem then eventual marxist-leninsit where I'm today and have been for about 2 years at this point. Captlism is indeed turing people further left ss class divistion accelerates, poverty and orther socical factors play a resurgence in communists