THE END OF THE BBC RED BUTTON IS COMING
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- IS IT THE END FOR THE BBC RED BUTTON?!
After nearly 25 years, the BBC RED BUTTON service has been providing useful text and video services to millions of viewers. However, as technology continues to innovate and improve, the Red Button service is being left behind... With numbers declining in terms of engagement, and repeated attempts to slim down the service, is 2023 finally the time when the BBC Red Button bites the dust?
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Red Button is so advanced compared to what we have in Canada. I think it's sad CEEFAX is no more as other countries in Europe still have their teletext.
If the BBC wants to save money, perhaps they should reduce EastEnders coverage to just two episodes/week as it was many years ago. Or they could cancel it altogether, maybe that would be better.
Oh god remember the red button from my childhood. It's a shame that technology advances and things that you remember that entertained you and made you happy disappear..... what an automated and horrible world we live in. Thank you Adam my great friend for covering and warning us on this great loss of TV history! I will always appreciate you!edit; I AM HUX MEDIA. ITS A SHAME HOW THE @ FEATURE DESTROYS THE CHANNEL NAME. shame.
Just change it Hux.
@@F2SOnRUclips but it would ruin the shipping forecast joke :(
London 2012 was the pinnacle of Red Button, choosing other HD "channels" (they were, of course, streams) with _massive_ bandwidths.
Glorious that was.
Are we all going to wake up some morning to hear that TV is being got rid completely. At the moment TV channels are just being used as a way of advertising the various players
Will not be good for the none digital people.
It will be a shame for BBC Red Button to go. Me and my dad use it to watch the extra events of Wimbledon, Snooker and the Olympics.
Noooooo, I don't want this to end :(
I think most don't!
@@AdamMartyn I Agree Adam
I remember using the red button for Freeview in the mid 2000's, which I'm especially recalling a Dick "n" Dom In Da Bungalow interactive on there 😆
Well, we’ve been hearing about the Red Button being wiped out for good in recent years (Especially in 2014-15 when they were considering moving BBC3 online and extending CBBC to 9PM)
Hopefully whatever replaces it will be just as big as it was when Digital Television started.
And of course, I used to check the Entertainment News, Lottery results, and scores from the Football. (Including my team, Blackburn Rovers)
I was very excited for this circa 06, as I had missed out on Ceefax because none of the TVs in the house had Teletext support (below the mandated size).
I used it a lot before I got my own computer. The loading times were too long after that.
I remember being amazed by all the options in the menus for the Olympics when at a boyfriend’s house with satellite.
I only used it all in all maybe a dozen or so times, but I’m going to be a wee bit sad when it’s gone!
Wee nerdy nitpick: the original Teletext was digital too, squeezed into the vertical blanking interval in the analogue video! But I’m sure you know this and just said “analogue Teletext” for expedience :)
That BBC 24 channel live interface was remarkable 😊
BRING BACK CEEFAX AND TELETEXT!
Old BBC Red Button might soon go, But no reason to stop allowing people to press the red button to access BBC iPlayer and BBC Sounds on connected BBC TV channels.
I remember CBBC Extra on Red Button
For context, 405 line television was switched off twenty years after the introduction of 625 lines, and 15 years after the introduction of PAL colour.
Used to be an easter egg regarding the red button on Freeview boxes - there was a certain number combination you had to put in somehow and you'd get the testcard.
One of the best Easter Eggs around!
We need the court coverage back for Wimbledon. I watched my own version of Wimbledon every year but this year is really poor in comparison.
**sighs** I should've seen this coming.
In 2014-15 BBC ANOUNCED THAT CBBC WILL AIR UNTIL 9PM AND BBC THREE MOVES ONLINE
Absolutely nothing wrong with the red button 🔴
Preach it! 🔴
Hugh Dennis made a dirty joke about the Red Button on Mock The Week once.
Skys response to the pressing the red button is now basically a link to iPlayer
To broadcast on the red button the BBC will need to pay a licence fee to OFCOM to use the radio frequencies. But using Iplayer is all on the internet. So will cost a lot less in internet bandwidth
Not Ofcom. To operate the extra channels on satellite they have to rent a satellite transponder for a month or two. That's very expensive. And the expectation would be that these pop up channels would be HD too.
At the moment they're already renting an extra transponder for the Standard Definition nightlight services, and that will have eaten up much of that budget.
TV online is very well, however, a third of the country is unable to get decent internet...... I couldn't even get Fibre until 2019, my BT cab only serves a minute of properties so BT won't upgrade it. Luckily, Glide stepped in and installed cabinets around the area - now I get FTTH 100/100 - it's kinda expensive compared to BT, but as Esther Rantzen said, that's life.
I remember the good ol’ Red Button. It is sad that the end is near for the Service. 😢
I still get BBC Red Button text on my Sharp 50 inch AQUOS Smart TV with built-in free to air satellite receiver via the Astra 2 BBC UK spotbeam services on my Zone 2 44cm Minidish.
I think the TV remote would wired without a red button
I forgot about it was there, not used it in over 10 years And only watch about 2 BBC shows, so i would not even miss the BBC if it went.
Everything comes and eventually goes
Sky now uses the red button service with Sky Sports F1
It wouldn’t surprise me if it does close down
Red Button fails because it's use cannot be monetised so no commercial reason for it to be supported by other than a public broadcaster. As technology marches on it falls by the wayside.
Like my Panasonic smart HD TV, can no longer get ITV channels on demand as it does not support TVX technology - or whatever its called!.
There seems to be some confusion... Ceefax Teletext was indeed a digital service. It was transmitted as a data stream within the otherwise analog TV signal.
I still use the text every day
Feels like the Teletext debate
Red button is great little tool
The Sing Along thingys was axed in 2015
I loved the Red Button because they used to show full live formula e races in 2019-20
I never use the equivalent services here in the Netherlands. Prefer good o'l teletext
Can't beat the classic!
I will miss this, was enjoying the 2020 reprieve, I use it several times a week to quickly check the news or weather without turning a computer on or messing with a small vision- damaging phone screen. I still fondly remember the news multiscreen where you could select between four rolling video feeds: news, local news, quirky news and weather. Subtitles are also suffering from a lack of care with many now auto- generated and not far off gibberish.
I use Red Button all the time. it's my newspaper.
Also ceefax was great
I used the red button to access local news for my area I find it hard to find local news stories via my smartphone esp up to date stories that regional news still didn’t mention in their programs ( in live in South west Scotland so Border region )
RIP 🔴
The red button is not going to die it's just changing the red button seems to now on most TVs lead to iPlayer because most TVs are now smart TVs
My childhood... 😞
Its not true, a new channel on sky called BBC RB 1 HD is now present. By the looks of it, theyve killed the Standard Defenition version of it
My opinion is that BBC Red Button advertising was too little, too late. Ceefax haf already used the red, blue, green and yellow buttons, but reinventing the wheel whilst the corporate speak needed dumbing down to satisfy capture the lowest common denominator of the piously chaired' 'viewers and listeners association’ must have interfered with the development and progression of UK PBSs
The Red Button service has met with a terrible fate, hasn't it? And that fate, is budget cuts thanks to the dumpster fire that is the BBC.
Nostalgia hit me after watching this ❤
Ive never used the red button
But used to like ceefax
Whilst I don’t make much use of the red button service now. I know that my Grandparents use it every day and would be a lot less informed without it. (They still call it Ceefax)
Im pretty sure that the red button has been in use for a lot longer than 1999. I worked on stuff for interactive tv in around 92. That used the coloured buttons. I created a interactive music based program in the very early nineties that was broadcast. It was big in sport around that time as well.
I remember the red button.
BBCRB was the channel on which I first watched _Doctor Who_ back in 2010, when they had a loop of the pre-titles sequence to _The Eleventh Hour._
Genuinely don’t think I’ve (deliberately) touched it since, though.
Honestly, there’s very little TV I watch on broadcast any more, since I’m only in the house where I have my own TV at the weekends, and most of that is spent watching the things we’ve missed during the week!
(Even separately from that, we always record non-BBC shows for later so we can skip the adverts; we’re usually rather tight for time when watching, so we simply don’t have time to waste on ads rather than actual content.)
Think end of the decade is optimistic. The way things are going they won't have many people paying the licence fee by then. I opted out in 2015 and in the last decade everyone I know has opted out of it too and just watches on demand (non iplayer) and streaming. I didn't even know that they even did red button anymore, I guess it's how the subtitles are accessed post ceefax?
cant wait until its 'the end of the bbc'
Weather and travel
I don't think I have used the text service in Probs like 10 years. Always thought on the ui was poor. I'm not surprised it'll go.
The interactive video ones are still good.
Is the iPlayer broadcast over Hbbtv?
The way the bbc text and i player work depends also on how old your tv or box is.
My 4y old Samsung can operate the old style text button w/out needing an internet connection….but I player does need the internet.
We got a little, 2023 LG smart tv in the kitchen/living area….this can’t access any of these services w/out the tv being connected to the internet. Try and you just get message telling u to connect to the internet.
*the red button triggers the i player. Only the specific text button activates or try’s to activate (in the 2023 LG example) the basic text service.
In many respects,I could see this coming,with respect to format changing. Old analogue TV was stable and trusted, but, but the cynic in me, says that they probably weren't making any money out of it! Now look,in the space of 20-ish years, we've had many so-called Freeview "upgrades",so of which have rendered boxes obsolete and forced their owners to purchase new equipment. I suspect even LCN changes will over time,wear out the flash memory inside these boxes too, further pushing more sales
Still use red button for quick weather and news checks, not so much the added broadcast streams. It is a lifeline for elderly parents. The TVs are all wi-fi'd up, but they have zero confidence with internet TV and i-player and the like, even the internet channels on the Freeview EPG (waiting for them to buffer is not in their skillsets)
Very interesting video Adam, but we still don't know what happened to the Sunday Catch Up, has it been permanently cancelled? If so then it's not a problem, but it feels like that the Sunday Catch Up has sort of become the ''subject that must not be mentioned'' and it's a bit weird, so why the secrecy?
My fault for not mentioning it much! I just haven't had the time to make a satisfactory new ep of TSCU! April's ep I wasn't happy with my presence on camera (exhausted/tired) and May I just couldn't get finished in time! Hopefully will be different this much!
@@AdamMartyn Thank you for finally giving us an explanation Adam! It's very appreciated
Does anybody remember using the BBC iPlayer channel on the wii or is it just me misremembering?
i remember!!!
1:33 eau rouge and raddion on bbc
Good times
Bring back teletext and ceefax I found it very good n interesting to read ..... Especially bamboozle n other stuff 😅
When is the Red Button going to end?
Never!!!
The red button as on screen graphic was technically known as the Call To Action, it operated in the graphics plane of a digital box, it first became possible in the late 90s.. Sky TV and a couple of EU broadcasters using software from OpenTV had it before the BBC. The IP owner of the software was OpenTV and they did start to sue network operators who they believed were infringing their software patents. I know this as I was involved at the time. Most software elements of a digibox, such as the EPG guide are subject to strict patent enforcement, several companies own them a require a lot of money from broadcasters/hardware companies that want to implement software features they patented decades ago. Before digiboxes and EPGs as we know them even existed. Only companies like Sky had deep enough pockets to pay for the rights to use these patented features.
Did you put your finger in a socket before making this?
HD switchover was happening for so long because BBC has financial problems.
True, there are also technical hurdles. The BBC wants to keep all the regional news teams with the switch to hd. They did thjs quite easily for the other regions: Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but England was difficult because it has so many regional teams across it that trying to get them all running of an hd multiplex was challenging. Also there many people who don't even know the hd services exist or don't care about the difference. One of my elderly family memenrs still just pushes the old 1-5 channel numbers on his remote and trying to explain there are other options would just confuse them. Therefore, the BBC didn't feel a lot of pressure to upgrade the service, hence the long timeframe.
It's time for the Socialist Party to interveine!
Come to think about the Beeb haven't been promoting the red button they have been promoting the Iplayer. I never really used the red button never felt the need to. I think the Iplayer will get bigger and bigger.
Please no
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@@AdamMartyn Good good!
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That was still around?
Yup
Also it’s still here (as of right now) but it appears to be a “coming up next” menu.
And it serves NO other purpose.
I remember when it had a LOT of purpose.
Stupid BBC.
When can u review channel 4 2023 idents
Soon!
@@AdamMartyn soon as in a week, a month, a year, a decade, a century or a millennium?
An Eternity...
@@AdamMartynand beyond 😅
Glastonbury has being moved from BBC Red Button to BBC iPlayer, With live coverage from every stage.
I used to love the red button. It just gave me the joyous ability to watch a range of different things at the Olympics different tennis matches at Wimbledon and other tournaments football matches that were going on at the same time. Another great sporting events. I think we need a BBC Sport TV channel and then extra channels when the big events coming around.
I think if they’re gonna shut down the red button, they need a solution, not just putting everything onto the iPlayer because older people still want to be able to watch big event and watch things on linear TV
I think the red button is being phased out, because of the BBC news app/website. But as usual the BBC is being elitist.
Most new televisions have HD channels, but I find HD to be uncomfortable to watch, because of my eyesight.
They wanted to get rid of FM radio, but DAB radios are power hungry and digital radio is on all modern televisions and FM radio can be assessed on phone apps.
Sooner the BBC gets defunded the better, I cancelled my tv licence 7 months ago as I no longer watch or record any programmes on the BBC or commercial tv channels as I can watch programmes without a tv licence on the commercial tv channels apps like ITVX, I’m only missing out on the BBC programmes as I can’t watch iplayer as you need a tv licence to watch it which I have no intention of buying again as it’s unfair for those that don’t want to watch the BBC have to still pay the BBC just to watch the commercial tv channels
Away goes red button and out comes a BBC button
For me, the loss of the video channel'd be a shame.
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In Ireland we have a digital service similar to the red button called Aertel, but without the video part of the red button, just news sport and weather… and maybe transmitter information from time to time.
It’s based on MHEG, however they are doing HbbTV trials at the moment.
RTÉ's Teletext service was also called Aertel.
@@nowster Yep, RTÉ is our national broadcaster.
I remember going onto CBBC extra using the red button during the summertime of my childhood and watching the Horrible Histories sing along (The Aztecs song was my favourite).
Bullshit , Click Bait alert.
My father still uses it
Doesn’t the red button just bring up BBC iPlayer now? Surely this is easier than messing around looking for an app. That’s the whole point of stuff like a red button. Convenience. I like the option of selecting from multiple matches or performances. The text stuff is completely dated mind.
I still use bbc red button for national and regional news and sports, fixtures etc. Much more straight forward than using the internet as it has everything in one place.
I've never used it. There's more than enough lies and disinformation on the main channels. Who needs it ?
As an American, your channel gives me a comprehensive and understandable view of British television services. Cheers!
Sky q currently does not have any text services, only video
Yeah I had Sky box and then I got a sky Q box last year.
Yeah on the BBC news channel I used to press the red button & read articles and now I can't do that but in another room we have a TV with Freeview and it can still do that.
I do use the Red Button button from time to time (sometimes Springwatch highlights, BBC Studio highlights), but the main reason for me is sporting events such as Olympics and Wimbledon (though the BBC no longer have main rights for the former).
I loved the red button. Especially when it showed a live feed of Chris Moyles Longest Show Ever on Radio 1, for Comic Relief.
I guess it isn’t needed these days though. With most people using their phone or radio to keep up to date with news and other stories. The iPlayer offers the other streams for Wimbledon, Olympics etc. So it is a bit of tough luck if you don’t have the internet!
I can see the BBC eventually moving online only. I hope when that time and day arises, that the TV licence is scrapped. So we can all watch live TV for free!!
This comes as no surprise to me Adam. The red button was invented in an age before the dominance of the internet. I understand the red button is used by a lot of older people. But we all know, the BBC are not focusing on the older audience, and are concentrating all into the under 40s, and it is that generation who rarely watch linear TV. I turn 38 in July 2023, and I barely watch linear TV anymore. I have Freesat, but most of my TV is all streamed now.
I might be misremembering, but I think when F1 was still shown on the BBC from 2009-2015, you could use the red button to see alternative camera angles on the car.
That's cool especially for the time and they still do it on Sky and F1's own subscription, so red button does still live on in some way.
Forgetting****
It's an example of the ignorance of the younger generations that don't like catering for those that need such services. They can't understand why older people have no access to technologies like smartphones, tablets and computers. The BBC aren't alone in this with so many other services that have some requirement, even local authorities and health services, are increasingly ignoring those people that don't have access to the technology that GenZ and so forth take for granted. They just don't think!