For those of you with my OCD levels, the worker wages on test 1 are as follows: *solid - $38 *liquid - $56 *manure - $39 *slurry - $94 That will vary by equipment used but to keep apples to apples and all.
Slurry spreaders are also very versatile 2 fertilizer options and depending on the model you can attach a spreader or a slurry disc harrow doing 2 steps in 1 pass the only downsides are they're expensive and consume a lot of slurry especially with the larger ones
Dj you have to take into account with your math that you own cows or pigs , cows being the most cost effect slurry and manure is a by-product , that being said feed can broke down to grass and straw , now straw is a by-product from a harvest so to off set the cost of slurry/manure will be the sell of milk and crops
@@DjGoHamGaming I have a lot of cows on a farm and only use manure and slurry myself instead of a worker thought it was cheaper. Guess it is a good thing I am not paid to think by ther way the prices worked
I had seen figures in the past on the Steam Workshop and in Reddit about how much it costs to use liquid fertilizer, and dry fertilizer using a spreader and sower. Nice to see you tried the more natural versions. Thank you.
The best way to do it is to fertilize you're field with a spayer or spreader and then going over it with the manure spreader or the slurry tank without waiting for the crops to grow so you have inmediatly 100% fertilized
Interesting video, one thing I wish you would have covered (pun intended) is cover crops and the fertilized state from cultivating them in. Would love to see how that compares to the more conventional methods.
I have always wondered this too, fertilizing versus cultivating in a round of oilseed. But considering you'd have helper and seed and fuel and maintenance costs for that round of oilseed, while perhaps more realistic I can't imagine in the game it could even come close to being "less expensive" that just slapping down a round of solid fert.
It depends if you want play more realistically or not. IRL in the UK I'm not sure farmers are able to sell slurry at least. Just a byproduct they have to shift. Also, IRL organic products (fert with manure/ slurry) fetch a premium. It would be cool if this was taken into account with new FS releases.
I am on the Minisbrunn map and you can buy fertiliser and I think slurry over the road and it costs about £300 to fill the smallest manure spreader and that covers 3/4 of one of my fields. But I think I might look into buying that solid fertiliser spreader!
99% of the time I just use liquid or dry fertilizer rather than slurry or manure. If there was a manure mod that using manure it would give you 2 levels of fertilization I'd use manure and/or slurry
J Hammer then you get 2 stages of fert on the same growth stage, or just spread surry/digestate an then sow with fert in the sower and you get the same effect
It comes down to, "are you playing as a game or are you playing as a simulation?" The game economy does not reflect real world economic decisions. Play it how you want to.
I'll just comment that I know Minibrunn has a manure buy point (you can purchase manure) on it. It goes for around $34-$45 per 1000l. I know this because I was buying manure from there early on with the Ferguson 3-ton tipper (3000l) for my greenhouses. Each purchase wasn't more than $130 each full tipper. Is it worth it? For doubling some of the greenhouse mods, yeah. But for fertilizing? No.
For your next episode on the series can you test which crop is the best, at different fertilizer states and weed states, also include gras(Hay,grass,silage) Thank you very much!! Love your vids and keep it up!!
Here is a question to further you argument to sell the manure and slurry, If you sell the manure and slurry at the BGA, you get digestate. Factoring in the earnings of sold manure and slurry, and the amount used to spread the digestate, it is worth using digestate?
Using manure and slurry makes your crop considered organic if your fields have been certified in real life. The farmer usually gets more money for their crops if certified organic.
From what I'm getting in this video is that the price of manure and slurry is too high when selling. If one were to adjust them down, it'd be more profitable to use it on your fields than sell it. I'm not a farmer but I thought that using manure or slurry after plowing or cultivating was better for the soil and use liquid or solid fert for later growth stages. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Cattle farm worker here: Manure is usually better for the ground, unless in extreme volumes, when it raises the acidity of the soil. Manure is also realetively cheap in real life, where you can basically get it for free. Hopefully this will answer your question.
If you're running a small farm with pigs or cows, having a small slurry or manure trailer is handy as every so often you've got enough being created by the animals to fertilise a field, which saves you some money. If you're just doing arable then it's a tad pointless
Almost need the in game fertilizer prices raised to make it more beneficial for us to use the manure/slurry from our animals. Great Video DJ, that one took some time to make. 👍
What about the digestate you get from selling the manure? Is it worth the cost of implements and the hassle of refilling? There seems to be no other use for it, no selling it or anything.
I am slightly confused did you take in to account the difference of spray width. Assuming you did not, my calculations show that for a width of 1 meter to the end of the field solid would be $8.95 and liquid $8.75. Edit: nvm im stupid just realized sry mismatched fertilizer spreader ranges
The obvious winner would be digestate. Biproduct of selling manure/slurry and even if you get a sellpoint for it it isnt worth much so might as well use it.
I use the big brute. Then use the Tara tiger poop spreader. Good video. Was also wondering about yield of crop grown on each. I'm like you on game play fast easy simple. I did enjoy the video thank you.
This video is the equivalent of a cooking recipe website: It has the information you want, but actually getting to the information takes way too long and is so inconvenient.
So manure and slurry is organic and the other two are manufactured. So I see the cost difference but what I would look at is what kind of yield you get from each type of fertilizer. Now that would be a challenge
Unless Giants has changed something, any type of fertiliser does the same amount of fertilising. The only real differences are in application rates and costs.
Get the Organic Fertilizer Mod by Stevie. It uses slurry or manure and water to make Liquid and Solid fertilizer, plus Herbicide. Requires Global Company
Thanks for putting this together. I knew what the outcome would be before the video, but I didn't think it was that bad. Also, may I assume using digestate would be roughly the same as slurry? I know in the base game you can't sell digestate so you might as well use it, but if you have a mod to sell it, that changes the picture. And I also wonder if you use a mod to make fertiliser from slurry, how does that change the value. I haven't used that mod yet, but I plan to on my current map. Using my current map to play around with all the Global Company mods (which I know you don't use, but would still value your opinion.)
well i use the antara truck for either fertilizer or spraying and it's so economic even if you use solid fertilize on it , it uses half or less compared to other equipments .
You didn’t test with 2 levels of fertilizer at once with slurry and manure you can go immediately behind solid or liquid fertilizer therefore getting 2 levels with final level while seeding
Technically but you have to look at the opportunity cost. "The loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen." It is still a net gain to sell and buy fertilizer.
Manure and Slurry change the ground state you can do 2 levels of fertilizer before seeding the final fertilization while seeding therefore once you have finished seeding your done with fertilizer I use BIG BRUTE pulling slurry tanker 2 levels of fertilizer in one pass with one hired worker
The number for coverage of solid fert spreaders are 100% wrong. Kuhn says that is 24, but is not, is more like 12. Bredal with 6 meters rotor implement says is 18, but is wider than the Kuhn, so something is wrong there.
Base game or not real farmers would not, not use manure it they have it. also I hope Giants bring back the 3 fert. states, more realistic .And you would have a reason to use slurry and manure instead of just selling it.
Hey dj what is the best time to fertilize our fields? I’m all stoked up for this week in mods too!! W the testing list...there are many good possibilities!! 👊😎🍀
Good video! However, I dont feel like this experiment is fully representative... If you were to do it again, you should plant a crop in all of them and see if slurry and manure is yealding more crop than the feald fertilized with solid and liquid. Hope you could do this!!! God bless you!
@@TDChannelKSP its a shame like cos.of.manure or slurry gave an extra bonuse to the yeald of.the crop then I'd use it. But it's pointless. Just sell ut and by liquid or solid stuff lol. I would think I the real world it would be cost effective lol
Hey DJ need help. I have harvested my fields 20+ times with very consistent yields then all of a sudden yields dropped by nearly 50% on next 2 harvests????
Also you can run slurry and Manure in the BGA and get money for it then you get some free Digestate at the end and then you actually make more money than you use on the liquid or solid fertilizer
And the best combo I have found is when you do covercrop as wintercrop, then plow in the spring and spread Digestate and then right after sow with fert then you have all 3stages of fert done when you are sowing and you don't need to go in that field before harvest, :)
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For those of you with my OCD levels, the worker wages on test 1 are as follows:
*solid - $38
*liquid - $56
*manure - $39
*slurry - $94
That will vary by equipment used but to keep apples to apples and all.
Manure and slurry are byproducts of farming and the best for the soil and environment so I will continue to use on my farm.
Ticky66MN same I agree
Slurry spreaders are also very versatile 2 fertilizer options and depending on the model you can attach a spreader or a slurry disc harrow doing 2 steps in 1 pass the only downsides are they're expensive and consume a lot of slurry especially with the larger ones
Dj you have to take into account with your math that you own cows or pigs , cows being the most cost effect slurry and manure is a by-product , that being said feed can broke down to grass and straw , now straw is a by-product from a harvest so to off set the cost of slurry/manure will be the sell of milk and crops
200lb_ Gorilla I’ll be breaking that down in a future video, that one is gonna take a while! Lol
@@DjGoHamGaming I have a lot of cows on a farm and only use manure and slurry myself instead of a worker thought it was cheaper. Guess it is a good thing I am not paid to think by ther way the prices worked
I had seen figures in the past on the Steam Workshop and in Reddit about how much it costs to use liquid fertilizer, and dry fertilizer using a spreader and sower. Nice to see you tried the more natural versions. Thank you.
The best way to do it is to fertilize you're field with a spayer or spreader
and then going over it with the manure spreader or the slurry tank without waiting for the crops to grow
so you have inmediatly 100% fertilized
Tjalle Meinen that’s the way I do it. I do manure then liquid fert tho.
Or fertilize it in any way before you plant, then either during or after planting but still before it grows
I use big brute pulling slurry tanker 2 fertilizer levels in one pass with one worker
Adam Findlay that’s a freaking excellent idea!! Gonna try that fosho! Thanks man!
Or if you have weeds on you can is the herbicide in-between two fertilizer sprays
Interesting video, one thing I wish you would have covered (pun intended) is cover crops and the fertilized state from cultivating them in. Would love to see how that compares to the more conventional methods.
I have always wondered this too, fertilizing versus cultivating in a round of oilseed. But considering you'd have helper and seed and fuel and maintenance costs for that round of oilseed, while perhaps more realistic I can't imagine in the game it could even come close to being "less expensive" that just slapping down a round of solid fert.
What about digestate because I use that a lot as it is a bi-product of my bga plant
It depends if you want play more realistically or not. IRL in the UK I'm not sure farmers are able to sell slurry at least. Just a byproduct they have to shift. Also, IRL organic products (fert with manure/ slurry) fetch a premium. It would be cool if this was taken into account with new FS releases.
What fertilizer is best for crop yeld
Does not matter, they each add 25% per application, two applications max. This is a game, not real life, so this makes it simpler for all
I am on the Minisbrunn map and you can buy fertiliser and I think slurry over the road and it costs about £300 to fill the smallest manure spreader and that covers 3/4 of one of my fields. But I think I might look into buying that solid fertiliser spreader!
Morning GoHamFam. Well done. Think im changing up my game plan after viewing this video. Informative video as always.
Are there any more exavaters coming to fs19
99% of the time I just use liquid or dry fertilizer rather than slurry or manure.
If there was a manure mod that using manure it would give you 2 levels of fertilization I'd use manure and/or slurry
J Hammer if you spread slurry or digestate you can directly spray liquid or solid fert right ontop of that on the same growthstage.
J Hammer then you get 2 stages of fert on the same growth stage, or just spread surry/digestate an then sow with fert in the sower and you get the same effect
It comes down to, "are you playing as a game or are you playing as a simulation?" The game economy does not reflect real world economic decisions. Play it how you want to.
If you don't care about the data, why are you watching the test? Pointless comment.
Great video. Using solid and liquid fertilizer. Tried using manure but make more money selling it and using profits to buy fertilizer
I wish manure lasted longer. Farms around me can do it in one trailer load
I'll just comment that I know Minibrunn has a manure buy point (you can purchase manure) on it. It goes for around $34-$45 per 1000l. I know this because I was buying manure from there early on with the Ferguson 3-ton tipper (3000l) for my greenhouses. Each purchase wasn't more than $130 each full tipper. Is it worth it? For doubling some of the greenhouse mods, yeah. But for fertilizing? No.
For your next episode on the series can you test which crop is the best, at different fertilizer states and weed states, also include gras(Hay,grass,silage) Thank you very much!! Love your vids and keep it up!!
Here is a question to further you argument to sell the manure and slurry, If you sell the manure and slurry at the BGA, you get digestate. Factoring in the earnings of sold manure and slurry, and the amount used to spread the digestate, it is worth using digestate?
What about what fertiliser gives a better yeild of crop? is slurry just as good as solid fertiliser?
It looked like solid fertilizer is the clear winner because the machine can move faster. Is that correct?
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Using manure and slurry makes your crop considered organic if your fields have been certified in real life. The farmer usually gets more money for their crops if certified organic.
You can get 2 levels of fertilizer in one pass with a worker if you use the BIG BRUTE pulling a slurry tanker
From what I'm getting in this video is that the price of manure and slurry is too high when selling. If one were to adjust them down, it'd be more profitable to use it on your fields than sell it. I'm not a farmer but I thought that using manure or slurry after plowing or cultivating was better for the soil and use liquid or solid fert for later growth stages. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Cattle farm worker here: Manure is usually better for the ground, unless in extreme volumes, when it raises the acidity of the soil. Manure is also realetively cheap in real life, where you can basically get it for free. Hopefully this will answer your question.
@@michaelszyperski6519 thank you!
Awesome, I was always wondering this myself. Thank you DjGoHam :D
Can you fertilize with solid or liquid and then immediately do manure for a second fertilizer state?
Solid fertilizer is the best IMO. So much so I tweaked the Great Plains planter to use solid instead of liquid lol.
If you're running a small farm with pigs or cows, having a small slurry or manure trailer is handy as every so often you've got enough being created by the animals to fertilise a field, which saves you some money. If you're just doing arable then it's a tad pointless
Manure and slurry are free yes,,,but you need to use so much more, sell the manure/slurry to pay for fertilizer and still make money...
Almost need the in game fertilizer prices raised to make it more beneficial for us to use the manure/slurry from our animals. Great Video DJ, that one took some time to make. 👍
The best fertilizer is free fertilizer( those who didnt update the container know what I mean 😎)
Full Salvo what do you mean?
hey DJ, love your Content, keep up the Great Work!. Greetings from Germany. Much Love
What about the digestate you get from selling the manure? Is it worth the cost of implements and the hassle of refilling? There seems to be no other use for it, no selling it or anything.
I am slightly confused did you take in to account the difference of spray width. Assuming you did not, my calculations show that for a width of 1 meter to the end of the field solid would be $8.95 and liquid $8.75.
Edit: nvm im stupid just realized sry mismatched fertilizer spreader ranges
What is better slurry or digestate?
The obvious winner would be digestate. Biproduct of selling manure/slurry and even if you get a sellpoint for it it isnt worth much so might as well use it.
Need more of these my dude so helpful
which fertiziler can i use on the front of the tractor?
Is this the same.for fs22?
I think you should have factored in the cost to buy the biogas plant in order to even sell the manure and slurry. Otherwise, good analysis.
Wouldn’t using digestate be a win win?
I go with digestate - you get paid for making it, and it just happens for free!
I use the big brute. Then use the Tara tiger poop spreader. Good video. Was also wondering about yield of crop grown on each. I'm like you on game play fast easy simple. I did enjoy the video thank you.
I will still use liquid and solid manure
Its so much more fun
This video is the equivalent of a cooking recipe website: It has the information you want, but actually getting to the information takes way too long and is so inconvenient.
Is there a difference in yield?
So manure and slurry is organic and the other two are manufactured. So I see the cost difference but what I would look at is what kind of yield you get from each type of fertilizer. Now that would be a challenge
Unless Giants has changed something, any type of fertiliser does the same amount of fertilising. The only real differences are in application rates and costs.
Sell the manure and slurry at the bio gas plant, then fill up with digestate to fertilize
? What about yield to crop volume
Get the Organic Fertilizer Mod by Stevie. It uses slurry or manure and water to make Liquid and Solid fertilizer, plus Herbicide. Requires Global Company
what about cover crops?
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I know this comment is old, but i just read it. Awesome!!! lol i drive my son crazy with that exact quote all the time! lol
What is with digestsdate? Can if be comepeared to sluarry?
Digestate can be used as slurry in terms of fertilizing, but cannot be sold.
@@amil7554 I meant if it's consumption is comparable and that?
Thanks for putting this together. I knew what the outcome would be before the video, but I didn't think it was that bad. Also, may I assume using digestate would be roughly the same as slurry? I know in the base game you can't sell digestate so you might as well use it, but if you have a mod to sell it, that changes the picture. And I also wonder if you use a mod to make fertiliser from slurry, how does that change the value. I haven't used that mod yet, but I plan to on my current map. Using my current map to play around with all the Global Company mods (which I know you don't use, but would still value your opinion.)
well i use the antara truck for either fertilizer or spraying and it's so economic even if you use solid fertilize on it , it uses half or less compared to other equipments .
With the solid muck u get it for free if u bed the cows or pigs down so it’s not too bad
This is a great video... well done my dude. I have had better yields with using slurry but after seeing this I think you just break even.
However the manure and slurry is more organic than the chemical base fertilizer.
Thanks for doin this dj really opened my eyes
You didn’t test with 2 levels of fertilizer at once with slurry and manure you can go immediately behind solid or liquid fertilizer therefore getting 2 levels with final level while seeding
Does base game mean no Pioneer or Lizard pallets? You could make bank buying Lizzard manure pallets & selling them.
How do u activate a fertilizer on ps4
There is a mod to buy slurry and manure i beleave
Let’s be honest manure and slurry are technically free think about it
It is but if you sell it and then hire a worker to buy it and fertilize your fields, you're making money.
Well, you do need animals, and straw is necessary for manure. It's all about what situation you're in
Technically but you have to look at the opportunity cost. "The loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen." It is still a net gain to sell and buy fertilizer.
Manure and Slurry change the ground state you can do 2 levels of fertilizer before seeding the final fertilization while seeding therefore once you have finished seeding your done with fertilizer
I use BIG BRUTE pulling slurry tanker 2 levels of fertilizer in one pass with one hired worker
@@adamfindlay9632 - How do you get 2 levels with one pass?
Hey DJ, I know that certain maps allow people to buy slurry basegame at the biogas plant, not all maps but i have done it before
Awesome vid as always! IT'S MIND BLOWING!!!!
Cool thanks for the info. Great video.
Are the yields different from each fertilizer? Like do they boost the amount of crop you get in a harvest?
Yields are the same, the game just looks if it is fertilized or not, regardless in which way it is applied
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No digestate test?
great video DJ
The number for coverage of solid fert spreaders are 100% wrong.
Kuhn says that is 24, but is not, is more like 12. Bredal with 6 meters rotor implement says is 18, but is wider than the Kuhn, so something is wrong there.
I don't think the little spreader is actually 24 meters. It says 24 but the hardi looks wider.
Obviously it's digestate - you literally get paid for making it.
I sell all slurry and manure to maintain fertilizer formy fields and I still do the same on FS17
Not to mention the price of the equipment... Those large manure\slurry spreaders are expensive!
Base game or not real farmers would not, not use manure it they have it. also I hope Giants bring back the 3 fert. states, more realistic .And you would have a reason to use slurry and manure instead of just selling it.
Hey dj what is the best time to fertilize our fields? I’m all stoked up for this week in mods too!! W the testing list...there are many good possibilities!! 👊😎🍀
When it germinates and then every few groths
Good video! However, I dont feel like this experiment is fully representative... If you were to do it again, you should plant a crop in all of them and see if slurry and manure is yealding more crop than the feald fertilized with solid and liquid. Hope you could do this!!! God bless you!
Fertilizer type does not matter - all of them give 50%, and you must fertilize at two stages for maximum yield.
@@TDChannelKSP its a shame like cos.of.manure or slurry gave an extra bonuse to the yeald of.the crop then I'd use it. But it's pointless. Just sell ut and by liquid or solid stuff lol. I would think I the real world it would be cost effective lol
Im sure that fertilizer is better than manure, but what about seasons?
With seasons you can only fertilize one stage each growth cycle.
the best fertilizer is the crop duster mod.
You can buy slurry and poo at the in map buy points on sussex. No modded buy points.
Solid anf liquid all the way
I may manure on small fields not bg fields
Wow organic is expensive!
So really the best is manure or slurry because you make more than the cost of worker buy
Hey DJ need help. I have harvested my fields 20+ times with very consistent yields then all of a sudden yields dropped by nearly 50% on next 2 harvests????
Dj, great video! I dont want to sound arrogant but you might have wanted to have the same working speed
Dj what about digestate
DJ why did you not include Herbicide in the testing because that is another method of fertilization.
Solid is the best
Hey Dj you forgot Digestate that you can use as slurry
Bjørn Steffen Nordvik digestste is a byproduct from the sell of a few things at the bga. I left if off the list for that reason
You can also spread slurry/digestate and then directly sow with fert in the sower on top of that and get 2 stages of fert when you plant.
Also you can run slurry and Manure in the BGA and get money for it then you get some free Digestate at the end and then you actually make more money than you use on the liquid or solid fertilizer
And the best combo I have found is when you do covercrop as wintercrop, then plow in the spring and spread Digestate and then right after sow with fert then you have all 3stages of fert done when you are sowing and you don't need to go in that field before harvest, :)
@@DjGoHamGaming otherwise you did a gooooooooood show case :)
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Dj you forgot Herbicide
And when you sell slurry and manure you get digestate for freeeeeee!
Hi, djgoham
Love the vid
The same thing happened in farming simulator 20 bro
Dj the fertilizer guy
I just started stream can u give me some pointers