How Shia LaBeouf Destroyed His Career
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Shia LaBeouf is one of the most controversial actors on the planet. Chewed up and spit out by the hollywood child actor machine, a product of his environment and a crazy life in the public eye.
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As an aside, I'm proud of Macaulay Culkin, as he's turned himself around from his trainwreck of growing up from child stardom a few years back and is now a rather chill and humble dude on the internet.
I'd also mention Wil Wheaton as a good example of a child actor that had to deal with some stuff yet grew into a wholesome dude and all around good guy (and a glorious nerd.)
@@AnotherCyborgApe I was a huge fan of Wheaton during the golden days of Geek and Sundry. I quite miss him (and the channel)... I hope he's doing good, wherever he is.
lol no way, Will is a stuck-up pompous a-hole @@AnotherCyborgApe
Turned around? Dude stopped getting work at like 12 and has just been a regular dude since from what I've seen
Turned around from drugs and booze.
Its hard to hate anyone who was a child actor. We've seen what Hollywood can do to full grown adults so its amazing the kids even survive.
conversely, it's very easy to hate someone who abuses women and kills dogs
A complicated history excuses only so much. The behavioral pattern Shia displayed is a fundamental issue with his nature and morals.
Which is why it's all the more interesting that Shia is so easily hated. Rarely as there been a more pathetic and unlikable "victim." Anytime someone tries to point out how shitty of a person he is, it's all about "my family, my upbringing, my dad, my childhood," and when he does "take responsibility" it's always performative. "A man knows when to apologize, even if it's just to stop the bickering." i.e. "I'm a man and I'm better than you. It's YOUR childishness that's the problem."
He's feels the world owes him because even though he's been "unjustly wronged" by the world, he's sorry. Yeah, Shia. I remember being 25 too. Time to grow the fuck up.
@@Dad...... and it's sick how many (even supposedly savvy kira viewers) are taken in by it
Kinda like Michael Jackson
Wow, I had no idea. I think a big difference with Shia is that HE was super motivated to succeed whereas many child stars were pushed by their parents. His seemed supportive but not maniacal. Once reaching the plateau of high level acting it must be difficult to know how to keep moving forward. Kinda like sports superstars who spend their whole lives being single minded about success but then reach a point of having to retire and then having to live the rest of their lives not being in the spotlight.
there are 3 types of successful Hollywood people. Those who are corrupt, the beyond mentally ill, and the persecuted
I reckon those kids wanted fame early on too. I remember being an egotistical little shit. Kids aren't as innocent as they seem. They want the fame and fortune. Maybe you can blame the TV, the culture we live in, the allure is inescapable - to be rich, to have lots of stuff, all that illusion of salvation and happiness has been there, and deceiving us, from the beginning for us since we were kids, deceiving us into false sense of happiness, some salvation that lies in the future. Maybe they were driven by the same mortal fears like everyone else: fear of death, or maybe they were running from the question that we all must answer: who are we really? For some, salvation was to find the antidote to death, in whatever way we could, whatever form it may come. For me it was to find some sort of real magic in this world, to find God, to escape death. I found the answer, in a way I never thought I would, and in a place I never thought I would, and it's not an escape from the physical death, it's to find fearlessness because there is no real death, there is no real life, it's only a dream. It's like a different dimension, where the limits of current thinking (of the ego/person) are transcended/simply not there. We are one. blah blah blah, I've lost you haven't I.
Your wrong about the athletes not living in the spotlight. these high level athletes are training their asses off day in day out and constantly getting hurt during the game. Outside of sports their body is always hurting and in pain cause of the physical toll. When these athletes leave sports it’s hard on them because their entire life since they were kids was focused on the sport, not the spotlight.
crazy how this guy admitted so often that he was wrong. But still always continued to make the same mistakes again and again and again
Humans are a creature of habit.
Even success stories of change involves setbacks and backtracks. The idea of people getting that one message that changes everything is mostly in stories.
Though also note that the constant 'i messed up'messages were not what he said in between messups. The video just pulled from his future interviews where he talked about the past.
What used to happen was that he would screw up then type a message he took from somewhere else as his apology, then repeat that. They more genuine responses were more recently after everything fell apart.
Does this guarantee change? No. Butt a person who is going to change will make these actions. Time will tell if he follows through
@@iandakariann Not for this, his consistent plagiarism and awareness of it show signs of deeper issues. He's still not better, he needs more than just more time to keep making "mistakes" and hoping to learn from them.
@@mycelia_ow of course he needs more. Therapy, time, reform, to stay the Hades away from Hollywood.
But none of that happens without first acknowledging that you have a problem, that's it's destructive, and that you can't fix it on your own.
Facing the problem does not fix the problem, but it's needed to fix the problem. And it's going to be the only sign we get until many years later whether he changes or not.
Egotistical abusers often give "heartfelt" apologies because talking about themselves & how bad they feel still feeds their ego.
It's wonderful how empathetically people have received his words, but I wonder about his actions.
I don't know what he's done with his time/money/energy making things right that he did wrong -
All I've witnessed is him apologizing then continuing the same pattern of behaviour -
Maybe he thinks rehabs & apologies are the only steps he needs to take to change, or perhaps the only ones he's capable of right now, instead of ongoing therapy to address reasons/triggers/etc for his behaviours.
He has the time & money to get the best kind of help, if he thinks it's worth it, but many people who have the means to go to therapy do not go, because they are afraid. They don't want to face themselves.
He's an actor who throws himself into roles so hard perhaps because he doesn't like to be in his own head - same reason we all look for distractions at some time or another but we have a 'Self' to return to.
He openly states that he needs guidance. I don't think a parole officer is the one to do it tho ~ I think he needs a therapist who can help him.
I have nothing against him & I truly hope he gets the help he needs.
Jon Bernthal saved Shia's career and put his own ass on the line for putting Shia on. Now he gets so much respect for "opening up", but for years no one wanted Shia.
They acted good together in Fury.
Only an idiot or a piece of shit wants him now. Or before.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop Fury still is one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. Though the acting was decent, true.
@@kraanz no, don't say that. The portrayal of war and death was pretty on point, sure, a Sherman tank managing to survive a tiger tank was obviously a bit silly. But the depressing atmosphere was on point
@@DrumToTheBassWoop Yes, I particularly loved the moments which made no military logic whatsoever, oh wait, that was the entire movie. Like the Germans arranging themselves in the tactical "mow us down while we advance over an open field."
Did the movie look cool? Sure. Was it completely idiotic? Definitely.
If you think he destroyed his career than you actually didn’t listen to what he said. He doesn’t care to be famous anymore he cares more about being a better him. Being a better father and husband. He’s taking accountability and trying to make a difference.
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He is speaking about credit of life than debits of fellow computation ❤❤ still a better actor than these shit hole of a low lifes
Sure..
@@DatSquatGap Let's hope so.
Reminds me of my nephew. Very charming but always in trouble and manipulating people. Already divorced twice. Great young man on the surface but you can't believe a word he says. I keep hoping he will grow up and change for the better.
Sounds like a weasel
Lying about your dad abusing you is low.
yeah the sympathy people have for this guy is ridiculous, he should be locked up
Lying and then making an entire movie about the lie just to manipulate the public is almost inhuman. I'm sure that was just a low point in his life but man it's hard to sympathize with someone who'd do that.
@@randomcharacter6501 haha apparently many commenters here disagree, must be the allure of celebrity or something. lots of people have low points much lower than this fella's and they don't do anything approaching that
Man I also swear I saw a year ago or so, video of him saying he found god and stuff, and was becoming religious. How you gonna all of a sudden join a gang now lmao.
Yeah that is just incredibly vile.
I saw him earlier the same day he got arrested in NYC. Guy was operating in a completely different dimension. Thousand yard stare, zoned out and hyper focused at the same time. He was chasing a homeless guy down broadway and ran around in circles where I was standing trying to catch him.
Lmao
Sounds like he was on amphetamines.
It's insane to realize just how many kid's lives were destroyed by Disney's search for profits.
Disney AND Hollywood's in general
lol
What do these things all have in common?
Oh boo hoo
I think you’ll find it’s Spielberg doing all the awful stuff to them!! Go investigate the man’s a demon
He is definitely a person fighting with his real self, alot of young actor's get used to the habit of acting to a point where it overwrites own personal growth
Bruh, apstrophes don't make words plural. Where'd you learn English?
He seems like he is still acting. In the last interview, he seems to be playing some kind of reformed criminal, like someone who has been in jail for a few years. I don't know, just some kind of a beat down workin' man vibe
he doesn't have a real self
Everyone got a real self. Just cuz ya hate someone doesnt mean its not true. Some people's real self is a shitty. Some are just pathetic and some are good/special.@@ilikeknives1000
where did you learn english?🤣 explain apstrophes XD @@slappy8941
The subtle joke of "Even Steven Spielberg" was nice
lol u noticed that too 😂 thought i was the only one lol
I didn't expect this video to end with an empathetic outlook. I appreciate that so much. I like seeing people talk about real things but also being able to say "this dude was a major asshole, deserved all the shit coming to him as well." While also saying "the man is flawed just like anyone else is" I think both can coexist. Redemption should still be something we want for people.( Ofc there's always those extreme outliers where forgiveness is just Not even possible).
This was a great vid, Kira.
Both do coexist and very often people overlook nuance in messy situations just to have an "absolute" opinion, when it's really okay to just be like "I don't really know how to feel about this person who did bad things and made mistakes but seems genuinely sorry."
"just like anyone else is" there's your problem
I think it's a great sentiment to believe that redemption is possible but it isn't the public that needs to forgive him; it's the women that he emotionally and physically abused. Maybe they'll be able to achieve some kind of closure when the case goes to court next year. Redemption doesn't need to include, for Shia LaBeouf, living a public life as a celebrity, starring in movies, and operating an acting school.
@@CreditR01 every time someone tries to paint stuff with a black or white brush, I take a second to point out some of the many shades of grey in whatever we may be talking about.
"Nothing is black and white" is almost as assured as "death and taxes".
Fantastic comment @monkeymita - I would disagree on the extreme outliers though. Everything can be forgiven. Holding on to things enables them to still cause damage many years after the fact. You have to forgive yourself for forgiving in a way, or things will just fester (P.s I'm not religious!)
This is fair and nuanced work. What a contrast to the standard online narrative. Thank you for telling a story about a person and remembering that they are a person at the same time. Nice journalism 👍🏿
"he is still someone's son, friend, and now father..."
this line struck me. I felt sympathy for Shia before, but still had contempt for his actions. This video gave me compassion for him.
Not even having watched the video yet, I knew KiraTV would provide just that.
If you're going to tell a half true story, you need education in voiceovers. You'res is kinda below par.
@@lernco4492 lol you can’t even reply to the right place
Nice alt Baldwin
Yeah. "He joined a street gang." and then, "He looks like he's on the right path."?
As others here have said, it's sad because he really is a great actor. His performance in Fury for instance is amazing.
He actually took out one of his teeth and didn't shower to really get into character
"Love, art and God all meant the same thing to me." I do have to give him some grace for being able to genuinely reflect on his mistakes, and he is very talented. The fact he could be so honest about his ill motivations later is pretty refreshing. I hope his future is brighter, provided he doesn't relapse into old behavior.
that's just the drivel an abuser comes up with when desperate for an excuse
He knows that he has many problems, but appearently does nothing to better himself. Until he does, he must be considered a threat to himself and people around him.
It sounds like something that could've been plucked from a deep, artsy indie film or a book that's trying a bit too hard to be profound. College level fauxlosophical stuff you tell girls to get laid.
@@Dad...... exactly it's just another version of "i'm superior to you, so feel sorry for and excuse me."
as a creative nonbeliever, yeah, god, love, and art are all the same thing to me too. it's friday afternoon now but the same was true on tuesday morning. what an insight.
@@numberonedad And in a hypothetical situation where he HAS grown and is trying to change and be better, what do you suppose he would say then?
Macaulay Culkin at least turned his life around with having a family with her partner who is also a child star Brenda Song. I think child star can have it rough but things can get better if you surround people that can relate to your challenges and will help you get through it.
He's also on RedLetterMedia from time to time and seems to be a genuinely cool guy on there. It's also hilarious when they rip apart Home alone 4 on Best of the Worst.
Macaulay Culkin may have had some bumps but he doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as these douchebags
To me , Shia is one of the greatest actors around . You have to have suffered to put that kind of emotion into your craft . Wishing him peace and love in his life
“I hope that either all of us, or none of us, are judged by the actions of our weakest moments. But rather, by the strength we show when, and if, we're ever given a second chance.” - Ted Lasso with wise words.
He was descending into a fog that became more inescapable the further he disappeared into it. If anything I think that child stars that transition to adult stars should have some kind of "sanity break". It's a hard thing going that hard at roles for that long. Acting isn't a bowl of cherries, sometimes it is rather boring and time consuming. For Disney stars you are also pushed into a purity requirement as well, which is why so many former Disney stars rebel to wash away that whiter than white image. I think there is also a fear that if you go on a sanity break, you won't get roles again. But I'd argue that if you are burnt out already, you won't get the roles you hoped for anyway. Shia can recover this, he just needs some time of reflection and chill. He's got plenty of money, he can turn it around.
Still, I'd say he's a winner now. And not broke with a net worth of $25 million.
@metalmike570 feeling like a failure isn't helpful for anyone, even billionaires. You can't fill an emotional hole with money. I'm sure many commenters would be happy to try. But if you had to choose feeling good about yourself, knowing you are loved and being comfortable, vs rich and loveless, cursed to be lonely no matter how many people you have around you, I'm curious whether anyone would truly enjoy that.
I know some introverts might not be too bothered, but they also don't feel loneliness the way most people do.
@@aazhie I think you're confusing "introvert" with "anti-social" there. Introverts still get lonely and want to be around other people, social interactions are just more taxing and require breaks to maintain long term. I'm also not so certain introverts aren't "most people" already.
@@aazhie Yes and now I remember now much loneliness does suck!!
Sometimes we roll the dice thinking we have the right one, I took a gamble in marriage more than once. I've ended up divorced both times. The second time it lasted much longer though. I am a father of two grown kids. One is normal and getting on with her life, I'm proud of her she works hard and has an associates in Accounting, and now a good job etc.... However my son who is 21 now is a low-functioning autistic guy. He can't talk, that's known as non-verbal and his life is difficult. Even so he goes to school, for those that are like him. And he wants to go he wakes up good and his mom gets him all ready and takes him in, and coming home the school bus does that. I'm there and have become his care-giver now upon his return. So really I've accomplished many things I wanted and never did want to be lonely. In my fifties now I'm mostly retired and I concentrate on my adult kids and have learned to work with their mother, my ex-wife. There is just enough money to live and get some things I want and help them too. I bring that up because money management is important, struggling to pay bills had me working 2 jobs for 4 years or more after being in the regular Army for 12 years. And also was in the Army Reserves after I got out of the Army and then had 2 jobs too. Sometimes you gotta give more than 100% to reach an end goal. Now I realize that I did that.
Can't wait till he gets past his intellect and just conforms. People miss his natural talent.
Shia went through a lot as a child actor and his dad really fucked him up.. he’s working on a SERIOUS come back. Positive vibes for Shia
Yes bro... He did a number in iconic movie fury ❤❤❤❤
His dad fucked him up? How so? Quite the opposite. Did his dad make a movie about domestic violence that never happened?
You completely glossed over the end of the "Don't Worry Darling" story (as well as the peripheral drama on that production). Much like with the Alec Baldwin case, Shia produced texts after the fact that vindicated him. The director (Olivia Wilde) said she fired him, but he had texts and even a video call where he backed out because he didn't want to do the film without a longer rehearsal time (because he's so "method," as we know). The video call is begging him to come back to the production. There's a lot more than just that, but I'll have to summarize: Wilde then went on to claim Florence Pugh was scared of Shia, which Pugh denies. Wilde replaces Shia with Harry Styles, and ends up turning the cast against her by sleeping with him on-set (There are reports of production delays due to them spending so much time in her trailer). (BTW, can you imagine the backlash if a male director was slipping away for a fling with a starlet ten years his junior? I have yet to hear the word "unprofessional" in this case, but actions speak louder than words because...) The press tour for the movie ends up being a disaster and memed multiple times. Pugh purposely misses some of the dates and shows up late to the premier so she doesn't have to interact with Wilde. Chris Pine famously looks like he doesn't want to be there. Wilde swears she never hooked up with Styles until after she split from the 10-year relationship with Jason Sudeikis, but look up the "special salad dressing" story from the nanny. Lots of details in there no one could invent, and not the sort of thing Sudeikis and Wilde want out there. Shia may run with a bad crowd, but he dodged a bullet by skipping out on that trainwreck. Sucks that most people are only going remember Wilde's side of the story even with her cemented reputation as a liar and cheat while he's got receipts no one wants to see.
@@prospero11 What are you talking about?
When all that garbage went down with Wilde's film and she was doing interviews, nothing that she said registered with me as being honest. I don't know jack about her or her life (and until now, about Shia's life). However, I distinctly remember thinking to myself, this chick is totally lying.
@@prospero11 So we should make things up and defame him?
@@prospero11 Like Olivia Wilde is documented doing?
how do you know so much about what these people do on their personal lives? what the actual f
i think you also missed the point (of the whole thing). point is not if HE WAS RIGHT. probably alec baldwin was slacking off, it's not the point. the point is how badly he handled the situation. and how bad he was at handling numerous situations and at mediating (which is a common thing amongst child actors tbh) and dealing with confrontation. he said himself he was not at the best of mind on how he regarded his ego. y'know.... probably on how important it was on being right, rather than favouring mediation and achieving better results for the whole group (including himself)
you're probably still a very young person, but eventually you'll come around it
Good luck Shia. I had years of addiction, pushed my family away my friends.
I'm clean now, only took 38yrs.
You can do this, you can beat this, there is a very decent person waiting to be set free. FREE YOURSELF YOUR WORTH IT.
Congratulations!
Sincere best wishes for you and your family!
May God bless you abundantly this 2024 and for many more years to come.
HC-JAIPUR (10/Jan/2024)
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It's never too late to turn your life around. Kudos, I hope you're enjoying every bit of it.
And his personality?
It won't change that. Not enough anyhow.
@@MrBollocks10 give the lad a chance at least. Cant hurt can it ?
*you're
FTFY
This video was very well done. I do feel sorry for Shia. I’m happy he’s made amends, and I hope he finds peace, as well as those who love him.
I don't. While I agree that he's a troubled person, his "amends" are just words and emotions he's putting out without actually changing his behavior. Hurting people and apologizing is one thing, but doing it over and over again is not excusable. It just shows he's not actually trying to mend his ways.
He is an average addict, not sorry for him at all
@@thanksforallthefish1424 I found his interview towards the end of the video to be genuine, and sincere. It takes strength to own up to one’s mistakes. Especially, in such a public way. Though, I admit, he is an actor, and I have no idea what he has been like to those around him following the interview.
@@lesliebean4594 same, those were real tears. That girl forgiving him when he was such an asshole was a good reason to cry. Everyone handles personal trauma in a bad way until they don't. He finally don'ted
@@borghorsa1902 And what next? Who gave you the idea that anyone is interested in your fucking opinion?
I really appreciate you. The way you cover these stories is a breath of fresh air. So many of these documentaries on youtube just spill out hate and go on their way. You seem to understand the humanity of people and the importance of offering redemption to those that are trying to gain it. You are critical but seem to care about a path back into the fold for people, which is important.
Stop with the virtue signalling. You wouldn't be saying this if he wasn't a famous hollywood actor that you loved growing up. If he was a regular guy who abused animals, kills dogs and is abusive to women you would throw him under the bus like everyone else. You hollywood fans seem to think you know these people. You don't know someones intentions or struggles unless you've been in their shoes. I do believe people can change, but it's very rare that ever happens. Actions speak louder then words, And just because an actor goes do to an interveiw and talks about themselves doesn't mean they've changed.
It's crazy how so many people are completely allergic to taking responsibility for their own, adult, completely conscious decisions and actions
Mastering the art of not reacting on impulse and taking responsibility for your actions is what separates adults from children. I see way too many people acting like the latter these days, including myself. Weird times, friend. :(
it's no surprise he's finding solace in a cult who meet those criteria to a T. you know, catholics.
No one's going to see this but what Shia did to FKA twigs is so horrific I urge people to look further into what she has said. Also twigs have him the option to acknowledge what he did and go to therapy to get help but he didnt so she sued him to make sure others knew about him and didnt have to go through what she did. Also if he was truly sorry why is he challenging her in court
omg yes, he is an abuser people need to stop idolising him
Earlier I watched a video on life-to-date of a former female gymnastic star. Just like anything that involves, fame, money, power, etc. the young are almost always chewed up and spit off like chewing gum. Some are able to recover, some were never made for that pressure and if they don't realize it and get out early enough, it usually ends badly for them and the coaches, managers, studios, or whoever did the initial damage, move on to the next victim. I sincerely hope that Shia is able to recover with his family, it pays better dividends to the heart and mind.
I'm 40 so am old enough to have seen him from the start to where he is now.
To me, he seems very arrogant / egotistical. He fancies himself an intellectual and "thought influencer". In actuality, he's a ... I guess "ok" actor - like many child actors - who is not capable of dealing with the fame / money that comes with that.
Since a young kid, he's been told he's amazing and clever and has the intelligence of an adult in a child's body. In reality, he was abused in the hollywood system and had his childhood stolen.
Correct. He seems to have been a victim of his own self importance which seems to have become a common theme with the advent of social media. Being a multimillionaire Hollywood actor gives you a large platform and large base to influence people. Combine this with the personality traits that are often required to become a successful actor/entertainer (narcissism, self obsession, attention seeking) and you have a recipe for self destruction.
He didn't change for shit
You mean the same thing as 90% of famous people?
Seriously, most adults are not able to handle it why should a child star be any better?
@@TemperansI don’t think there was any implication that others could handle it…we’re talking specifically about Shia here so it makes no sense to have to make a bunch of caveats to include people not in the discussion
@@Window4503 the way he said sounds like adult actors are any better at handling fame when that is categorically untrue.
Ex: There is a reason why famous people have the reputation of being into drugs/alcohol until proven otherwise.
Plagiarizing an apology for plagiarism is hilarious 😂
Watched all these childhood stars as a kid. Can't believe how much of a mess most of these Disney stars are now. There's definitely something wrong with the system there.
The dude is only 37. He has his whole life ahead of him, and he's got a girl who wants to stay with him. Shia's life is just fine.
He also does not seem to spend excessively as he drives a Silverado.
Fine by modest standards. But he was one of the best paid actors at the time. So he ruined that for himself.
@@Ronny999x oh I doubt his net worth is modest. If he didn’t spend everything what he has certainly is enough to retire anyone for good. He must invest in stocks and businesses (or could start at any time), so no need to work in anything big anymore, just what he likes
the same girl he was abusive with??? hmmmm
Hardly fine. He's out of work forever 😊😅😅
As someone who has messed up their own life, I'd like to hope that people give him another chance. We're all learning, some at different stages than others. All of us hope for a better life. Some just don't have the skills/knowledge/resources/whatever it may be to get it.
In an age where people defend or don't acknowledge their bad life choices, it felt weird seeing Shia being so honest about the kind of person he was.
its weird because in current day not many people are willing to, for a lack of a better word, man up about how much of a dick they where.
Honestly he feels more human exposing his demons than all fucked up people in hollywood that thrive being predators and look "normal"
Yeah, but it’s also an indication that he has pinpointed the problems and is actively working to fix them. That’s more than most people in his situation do.
He seems to be doing better and I can see a lot of regret and guilt in his eyes, which doesn’t happen with people who don’t care about what they’ve done. “But he’s an actor” you could say, and you could be right, but I don’t think you can fake that. Even as an actor for a scene, you’d have to be able to pull from something real to get this look.
I hope he gets better, with his talent and determination, he has more to offer to the world as a decent human being.
Which is why I like him these days
"Was"...Still is. Going on an interview and crying doesn't make you a good person. He's still a douche nozzle that spouts leftist propaganda.
I appreciate you keeping the human aspect of it. Everyone deserves a chance to fix their lives, but it doesn't mean we have to forgive his actions. It's hard as hell to fix a lot of these mental problems, he'll have to live alongside them forever, but at least he's *trying*.
you don't need to forgive his actions because it's got absoloutely fuck all to do with you. A typical unimportant little prick, the sort who frequents these channels.
Everyone deserves a chance to fix their lives... but does one deserve 500 chances? I mean, where does it end? This isn't 1 mistake he made... he made the same mistakes for over 20 years.
@@glp.1337 Depends on who's doing the forgiving. You, for example, might cut him off after the third or fourth mistake and would be entirely in your rights to do so. No one is owed an infinite amount of chances to screw up and wherever you feel the line is drawn is entirely your business and no one can say otherwise. You just can't put your limitations on others. If someone else wants to hand him 100 different chances, that's also entirely up to them. Even if we feel someone doesn't deserve more chances or know in our hearts that they'll just screw up again, more often than not trying to put our limits on someone else just causes them to get stubborn about it.
@@Mon937 I wasn't putting my limit onto someone else at all? Which is why I asked the questions: Does one deserve 500 chances & Where does it end. Neither of which you've bothered to answer. The reason for that is that you're solely looking at this from the individuals perspective. Which is pretty modern and normalized. But I would suggest to also look at it from a society's perspective. Where should we draw the line in order for a society to remain functional. I'm fairly sure that giving every criminal or abuser 500+ chances would completely destroy a society/civilization... so again I ask: Does one deserve 500 chances & where does it end?
People change…it does not happen often but I know from experience that change is possible. Kudos to Shia for trying to change his ways. It takes one step, one day at a time. I’ve done a lot of terrible things in my past that I am not proud of. Unfortunately, none of it had happened I wouldn’t be in the mindset I am in today. I still suffer bc of the things I’ve done in the past. Forgive…it will help you more than you realize. I’ll stop preaching. Y’all take care yourselves and each other. Peace! 😊
Amazing video KiraTV, i've seen a few videos on Shia's life, and you crammed into a short ~29 minutes a lot more than the other videos. I think you write excellent scripts for your videos, and the research that goes into the content is exemplary. The production values are great too, E.G. i personally liked the well-timed 26:20 B&W-to-colour fade :)
Well done, and thank you 👍
dude he's not going to date you 🙄
I'm a little disappointed you didn't mention "actual cannibal shia labeouf". Very silly and definitely worth (re)watching!
I've always liked him as an actor, and never would have thought that he'd be struggling with NPD. I mean there's been hints of it, but almost every method actor struggles with this in one form or another, I just never thought it'd be this extreme. I am glad that he's received helped he needed.
He has no real talent.
What is NPD?
@@christopherlewis1315 Narcissist Personality Disorder
its arguable whether he has it. it's just an interpretation based on his actions. i have a different interpretation of it.
for on narcissists do not destroy their career intentionally and rarely admit they are wrong ever.
@@davemattiaif he doesnt nobody does in hollywood
I just think it's crazy how you can build an ego this massive from playing supporting roles. He's the kind of actor you look back on and say "yeah I guess he did ok" and that's it.
This is what I don't get either. LeBeouf isn't good enough to get all these chances. Never seeing another Mel Gibson movie so I don't support Gibson's behavior feels like a sacrifice, and I don't think Gibson is the best actor in the world. I don't feel like I'm missing out if I never see LeBeouf on screen again. But, somehow, he keeps getting work. He's in Francis Ford Coppola's "Megalopolis" coming out next year.
Anybody can have an enormous ego over anything. Like the star quarterback on a high school football team. Or the head cheerleader for that matter. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just saying, it doesn't take much. Dr. Phil (whom I can't stand) did make a good point saying 'The smaller the celebrity, the bigger the ego,' and cited examples of a veteran A-list star being a guest, and showing up on time, very nice and extremely cooperative, as opposed to say, the 5th-place contestant of a singing competition being a guest - and being late, having a big entourage, acting snotty and just an insufferable ego - it happens. Of course, I will say that Shia did push the ego-driven behavior to a destructive level, it seems.
I do give him credit for when he did the film Fury he went and got a healthy tooth removed for the part!
To be fair he did really well in holes.
Your style of narration / story telling is going from strength to strength. Looking forward to the next one.
"Even Steven Spielberg" I see what you did there with the Even Steven reference
im not unsympathetic to how much pressure and emotional damage one must face as a child actor, but i also think that his brain chemistry is just not suited to be a celebrity. he clearly suffers from some kind of mania. his mania is what allowed him to be driven enough to make his career as a potentially great actor, but that same mania holds him back, as it makes him too unstable and confrontational to work along side or to be a public figure
You know Alec Baldwin literally murdered somebody right
No. He did not literally murder somebody. For the shooting of the cinematographer to be a murder - Alec Baldwin would have intended to shoot and kill her. He didn't. He was doing his job - which was to fire a gun that he believed was loaded with blanks. At worst Alec Baldwin would have commited manslaughter - the unintentional killing of the cinematographer. He was charged with manslaughter and eventually those charges were dropped. I honestly feel super bad for him.
@@alakani i think more like some idiot loaded live ammunition and couldnt tell it apart from the blanks. that was going to end in somebody being shot, not really alecs fault. even then thats insane incompetence from the armorer, but not murder
outside of that baldwin and shia are both assholes and abd people
@@stanleonard86 The same guy who punches people for parking spaces, tries to punch flight attendants for telling him to put his phone away, and calls his 11 year old daughter a pig? Uh huh. He's being re-charged due to additional evidence
Agree. Or something about the way he grew up made him overly intense in situations that don't call for it. I knew someone like that for too long. You really never knew what would set them off or why. Was never sure if it was a born traits thing, or trauma. But ultimately you gotta leave because there's no trust or safety.
Honestly the irony with the "He will not divide us" thing is that it was inherently divisive to begin with, especially with Shia himself seemingly being somewhat easy to set off around that time. Made a perfect target for 4chan to mess with and showed how goofy observant they are. To the point that tmk the flag was inside a building on a white wall at some point and they still managed to find it.
Hopefully he can find a way to improve himself going forward.
@@FionavanDahl I suggest that it’s a simple as it looks - that the camera never had anything to do with ‘not dividing us’ where instead it was about forwarding his agenda, whatever it might be. He was yelling full on in someone’s ear: he was trying to hurt them, and may well have done so.
I love this. So WELL WRITTEN. I’ve never seen this channel but I’m going to check it out because I’m so impressed by the writing. It was beautiful and so human. And we need it. Beauty and humanity.
His actions were like saying "I'm against banks so let's rob the bank". Yeah, law doesn't work like that, you can open the discussion to see if we can change them, but you don't change them by simply breaking them.
more like "i'm against banks so let's rob the patrons walking out"
I'm pretty sure some law reforms were created from breaking laws
"Yeah, law doesn't work like that, you can open the discussion to see if we can change them, but you don't change them by simply breaking them." The Civil Rights movement of the 60s would like a word. *One person* breaking the law isn't going to change anything, but breaking the law is often how you get them changed.
That's kind of a dumb statement. Laws are not moral and generally breaking laws has absolutely lead to those laws being changed.
Just look at all the recreational marijuana states or civil rights. Same with sodomy laws or interracial relationship laws.
If you actually think that "simply by breaking them" isn't a way that laws end up changed, you shouldn't be talking because clearly you lack any actual insight into how laws have changed over time. 😂😂
this opinion is so centrist and for the status quo. tell me you don't care about positive change without telling me you don't care about positive change.
This was a really fantastic video!! Super informative and insightful! Really liked how you handled this.
But I have to say... I am SUPER fckn proud of how you've grown and expanded your channel since you started all those years ago!!
I was always interested in seeing how'd you pivot from just gaming content, but I haven't been on RUclips much lately so missed a lot of your videos. But this was great to come back to and I'm so happy to see you constantly upping your skills and range all while maintaining your integrity. Awesome work man!!
Thanks guys :)
You better invite them to your birthday party for all this glazing.
Always loved Shia, and I don't exactly know why. He was great in Fury. I'd loved to have him carry on the Indy franchise in a whole new fresh start as the son of Jones. He seems sympathetic and real somehow. Now he's joined the Catholic Church and is likely to be very serious about his faith. Wonderful. I hope we're going to see him do great things yet.
I feel exactly the same way. I think his rise to fame came at a really formative time in my life, and my brain can't help but associate him with nostalgia and a happier, more raw, "real" (as you say) time in life.
Just because you believe someone can change doesn't mean you have to forgive them. I will never be able to forgive abusers like that. Like ive made mistakes and hurt people, but what he did is hard to get past.
Nothing says you have to forgive people and some things people do should haunt them for the rest of their lives.
But that's a flawed way of thinking. No one is asking you to forget what happened, but at some point you have to forgive and move forward or you stunt your own growth. You allow that previous abuse to continue to control you when you're unwilling to forgive and move forward.
@@PatrickscottYTforgive but not forget. Those forget tends to repeat history. I forgave him but I'll never give him my peace or time again
@@PatrickscottYT I've just never believed this is true, not forgiving someone for hurting you doesn't "allow" anything, nor is it an immature thing to do.
@@PatrickscottYT You don't have to ever forgive. No obligation. You can move on from trauma without forgiving the perpetrator.
I totally forgot about all the plagiarism stuff until now. I get the point he was trying to make about copyrights; creativity being "owned for profit" and wanting to liberate that creativity, etc. But the way he went about that was, hypocritically, to profit off others' creativity for himself---exactly what he was purporting as the problem.
Even if he truly felt that creative endeavors and entertainment should be open source, he went about it in such a way that hurts his stance more than helps it. That, and he should have realized how he got where he got in the first place.....
Really I think he just messed up initially by accident, but it affected him for years and he stubbornly refused to back down from a stance that was categorically wrong.
Without copyright, small creators can have all their ideas stolen.
@@anzaca1 Exactly. He didn't go after Disney. He didn't go after DC Comics. He didn't go after anything with some culturual weight and history behind it, who could easily punch back. He took advantage of a relatively small creator.
16:00 that's the only thing I know this guy for. He will not divide us.. Yet it divided his own mind and he acted 16:58 heavily divided with others. He just wanted everyone to think exactly like him and agree totally with him.
That's not how life works.
Confession by projection much?!?
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18:00 that was really a fun time 😂 I mean, he could've just laughed along with everyone.
I had put Shia away in my mind, it didn't matter how much time had passed, because if I went and looked him up, he was always: Getting kicked off movie sets, in rehab or getting arrested and let go
Watching that Jon Bernthal podcast was amazing and eyeopening. Definitely worth a watch. I hope Shia manages to rebuild himself and finds his happiness.
@@hamzab1368because money is everything right?
Wow! You are really good at telling stories. Just started following. Great work!
He was already having a hard time, then he had his mental breakdown "televised" to the world during the whole "I'm not famous anymore" and "he shall not divide us" spiral, that situation shouldn't be put upon anyone, and thats not counting the stress of being a child actor Before
I'm glad he seems to be recovering
Money doesn't buy happiness, it just helps hide your lack of it
"He will not divide us" wasn't a spiral, it was a legitimate political protest that was no more cringe than anything the alt right was or still is putting out. His only mistake in that event was thinking that chuds on the internet had anything better to do and would eventually grow bored of trolling him.
Anyone who spent hours online trying to find a flag so they could own Shia LeBouf and the Left was clearly the one spiraling, Shia was just giving voice to the anger of half our nation
It's very true when you say people tended to gravitate towards him. I remember in 2015 when I was studying my undergrad, lots of other university students in the creative arts clearly viewed him with great respect, with some going out of their way to publicly praise his work during discussions in lectures etc (this was around the time of the Sia video). It always struck me as a bit odd.
well i think he did a great job in Fury in 2014. He has good acting skills.
He's been a good actor in some movies. Talent doesn't confer being a good human on anyone.
As someone abandoned young, having lived as a squatter and developed alcoholism and schizophrenia, I am sick of people telling me wealth ruins people, i'm also a trainwreck, without the fame or the glam.
If Ezra Miller and Shia LeBeouf were to be cast in the same film, would the density of delusion and narcissism be so great that it would create a black hole and destroy the Earth?
We should try that.
Throw in Jared Leto and it might just about create an ego singularity of star-shattering proportions.
ezra miller is wayyyyyyy worse than shia
So all the other times he was lying and manipulating people all around him....but not this time right?
I think it’s fair to say that, while definitely possible, he does appear to be changing from his previous patterns of behavior. He could still be the same, but as they said, we have to believe on some level that people are capable of changing for our own good. I think it’s the fact that he isn’t saying “I’ve changed please give me another role,” so much as updating people about his next step forward.
People do grow. Some say they've grown more than they have. Actions always reveal the truth, ultimately.
The other times the lies and manipulation didn't involve him admitting his own faults and saying sorry. This time is being seen as different because it is different. You're not putting much faith in people if you're just saying that despite being bitten several times that they are just idiots that don't see him doing the same again. People are being sympathetic because there is a difference that appears to them to be the kind of change that was needed.
@@nathanmiller9918 Only people that have never changed for the better themselves think others of suffering from the same fate.
Noo he changed, fr fr
Thousands of years ago Children of powerful people would call themselves gods or demigods. From Japan and China's emperors being decedents of dragons to the Persians living god kings and the Pharaohs of Egypt being decedents of Ra. Child stars today arguably have greater reach, power, and wealth than their predecessors and can be just as separated from reality. I cannot imagine the lasting psychological damage caused by this.
Shia is a few months older than me. I grew up watching him in Even Stevens, Holes, Battle of Shaker Heights, Transformers and even watched Nymphomaniac. He's an extremely talented individual. But sometimes talent is an unbearable weight.
I can get behind his stance on the lack of story sharing and tales being passed down. But, without any guidance or anyone to help him in the down times, his talent works against him.
I hope he comes back as a stronger person or stays away from the limelight and continues to work on himself.
funny i always saw him as an untalented wooden charisma vacuum, different strokes i guess. anyway the idea that the weight of talent has caused his behavior is a joke. there are far more talented people with much more trauma who don't get away with half of his abuse.
@@numberonedad Names?
@@ThatGuy-ky2yf for starters almost everyone in hollywood is more talented so you can narrow it down from there
@@numberonedadI dunno not that narrow 💀
*The short answer is, he obviously would rather do something else with his life but nothing else he is qualified to do pays even 10% of what he makes as an actor.*
So, you've got a guy that hates his job but is determined to be the best at it while still hating it most of the time.
*You're looking to move onto the next thing in life like if you're an executive and you move onto open your own company and such, but with acting there's really nowhere else to go.*
Yeah but he has loot, if I had a couple mill I’d build a shop, build stuff, buy some chickens, have some kids, boom happily ever after
@@Zennsunni oddly what a lot of famous people do is buy into franchises like McDonald's which over 80% of are actually privately owned. You own 10 McDonald's so you get passive income and stability from it for life, but personally if I had that kind of money, I have my own endeavors to invest in, but I also went to college for electronics/electrical engineering which is advanced mathematics, quantum mechanics and I've invented some cutting edge technology that may never see the light of day due to funding.
Oddly, I'm heavily connected to the entertainment industry but it's not exactly in a good way. My brother is a very well-known and powerful casting director, and I've had a lot of "relationships" with some of the most famous women on earth who really are not good people at all. I play a few instruments at the elite level, can sing 7 octaves quite easily and do countless singers' voices, do a lot of writing, can hold my own amongst the best comedians etc., but what I personally experienced and witnessed is more or less an industry that is a sex cult. Your talents and strengths are borderline irrelevant compared to what you are willing to do to advance amongst your peers and this is what the big wigs truly look for. Blind ambition and selfishness.
A lot of my terrible experiences with famous women started with super famous girls before being so famous when they were on the Disney channel, and this is where Shia started out so I can only imagine the depravity he was exposed to and encouraged to be involved with. I quit watching TV 14-15 years ago and I catch the bullshit stories these women tell in the media that I know for fact are totally made up, but I said nothing until February of 2022 since there's nothing to gain from speaking out. *Ultimately, these people are really fucked up inside and out and the public is brainwashed to disturbing levels with who they believe most of these people are.*
I doubt Shia's tough guy act is an act at all, but it still doesn't suit him. *He comes across as a guy that's constantly askin for it.*
Nothing indicates that he hates acting, if anything he seems to be overly obsessed with it. Plus he's been blackballed in Hollywood and has his own money, so he's obviously not being 'forced' to act because of financial constraints.
@@tcaprecap1448 he seems to hate acting in mainstream productions and following the instructions of directors and the writing of writers. I just see a young man that has a chip on his shoulder and is determined to prove himself but to who.
I'm a musician, writer, comedian and coupled with having gone to school for a complex field of science. I don't take entertainers seriously whatsoever because I am one and I've had sex with more famous women than I care to talk about. My brother is a powerhouse name in film and TV production that Shai undoubtedly knows. I know a lot of dirt firsthand about these people, especially the women that started out with Disney. He also started out on Disney and the company just really fucks these people up.
In general, these people are pretty fucked up and their public persona is almost always a ridiculous lie. His tough guy act is hard not to laugh at.
It's a great video and I really hope he will bounce back and make a great recovery story out of that. Some people did and they became a better people afterwards. It didn't erase their wrongdoings, but rather taught them what sort of people the cannot be. As a few examples I can mention probably one of the biggest ones: Robert Downey Jr, who messed up big time on every possible field, but since recovery, he became one of the best actors of his generation. Craig Ferguson, perhaps less known, but one of my favorites had similar story to tell. Also let's not forget about Justin Bieber, yes, I know I know - Beebs. I couldn't care less about him, but since his Comedy Central roast in 2016 (if I remember correctly), he grabbed my attention as someone who is trying get off the bad boy path and get on the right one. He acknowledged he messed up, but also said something very interesting: I was a teenager, who all of a sudden became incredibly popular, millions of girls shouting at the slightest sight of me with a 200 million dollars bank account. I could have everything I wanted. How would you react? This sparked the thought, that probably most would fly off the handle in those circumstances.
As a final word: I wish all the best to those who struggle for different reasons, but especially to those who are willing to go to extremes in order to turn their life 180 degrees and make things right for people around and especially for themselves.
Shia feels like a real life version of Bojack
With more potential
People compare Bojack to Matthew Perry and a few others.
@@Lumpalooza I was going to say with a lot less potential.
In the interviews regarding doing the music video with the kid: he has said that he was super uncomfortable doing the whole thing, but was determined to make sure it looked good, and that the kid was ok.
I've always found myself gravitating towards Shia LaBeouf. My life has been nothing but a roller coaster 🎢 ride. There are so many things I've done wrong, but alot I've done right. But what keeps me up at night isn't the latter. I've grown so detached from this world because of one thing or another. It's like the feeling of being at the edge of a cliff and believing if you step off you'd be able to keep walking.
acceptance is the first stage of redemption
@@luckeOHara Pain eventually fades, But a consistent pain and hurt doesn't. Believe me I wish it was that easy.
I've been a fan of Shia's my entire life. Even when all the stuff was going on with him and around him it just made me feel sad. To me it always felt like he was entirely alone fighting against holly wood, against idiots on the internet, against struggles with himself. He just really seemed like he needed a genuine, true friend, who has your back even when you're an idiot. Who would stand with you to support you even if that support sometimes meant smacking you in the head, or ground you back to reality. I always have really struggled with being an extremist and spiraling. 2 things that are dangerous when combined and when I reflect back on all those moments of deep deep unhinged reality the thing I really needed the most was someone else.
I hope he's able to find peace and support in life.
Feeling you, friend 🫂
Never been one myself. But he's okay in my book. Everyone has their "rebel phase", more or less, I know I had mine. I've grown more diplomatic with age, but I remember the fights over everything I found unjust. Now it's more like "I won't even comment on that, my friend". But I'm literally nobody whereas Shia is a man whos every word is being recorded and publicized. I can't even imagine being in the spotlight and doing or saying everything right all the time.
For good or bad, everything with Shia is a performance.
Man some of the most entertaining youtube is coming out of the UK. KiraTV, TotallyPointlessTV, Hawkshaw, VaatiVidya; and thats just a few. Keep up the great work. Fuck forgot to mention Simon Whistler from Warographics as well as his other 100s of channels
I love Shia Leboeuf. His name means "Thank God for Beef". His character in Constantine was great. He played the world's best game of capture the flag.
Right wing Hindus of India will definitely hate him now.
With a passion.
Who gives a fuck? lol@@Rexorazor
He possibly "dodged a bullet" with Alec binning him lol
😂
The ending to this was absolutely perfect. Well done
I wish him well. When people have been in situations or mindsets that rob them of feeling free, feeling oppressed, not feeling like they are being heard or mean anything thus when the opportunity arises they will go completely overboard, I've seen this time and time again, even myself though not to his degree, mostly 'cause I didn't have his kind of money or the influence. Not to minimize but he could have been a whole lot worse. Drug addiction is mostly a sign of something not being right within the person.
I don't give people a pass who have spent their whole life benefiting their narcissism and THEN decide to repent when people finally realize and stop feeding his ego. It's so easy to be "real" when all other manipulative avenues and consequent damage to other people have been burned through.
So please forgive me if I pass on suddenly giving this narcissist a pass just because the chickens finally came home to roost.
If he goes and does something genuinely real without an ego-inflating angle I may reconsider, but a couple tears and some "real" talk on a podcast doesn't just erase all the stupid hurtful shit just so you can make yourself feel better for forgiving him.
@@CharveL88 Narcissism is a cluster B personality disorder. It's wild to me that someone suffering from a disorder will just get dismissed for that exact reason. That feels like blaming the person with the broken leg for not winning the race.
I'd place this challenge on you; find me one celebrity of the thousands upon thousands who had a substance, personality disorder, or extreme mental health condition who got it dealt with before it was a major factor in the personal or professional life falling apart. With a strong emphasis on before. No divorces/breakups in during their spiral down or recovery. No lost jobs, and the only reason we know about it is because it came out in an interview later and shocked us all.
That's just not how people work, especially those with large egos who need to protect their image.
@@Mezza_Luca -- I think you'll probably have to re-word your challenge because it's going to strong depend on what counts as "dealt with" especially when it comes to an "extreme mental health condition" -- because there are conditions that can't realistically be "dealt with" that is to say you can get some coping mechanisms but you'll never be not struggling with it.
My mom has borderline, and as much as she loves me and I love her, she's not reliable, she's constantly re-writing events in her head even right after they happen. She can't be supportive in the motherly way, because she's too desperate to have her own emotional needs met to really make space for her kids needs.
People like that, it's a condition that can't really be "dealt" with. You can do better, you can work hard at it.
I know there are other people with BPD that actually do things my mom never will, but they're always going to struggle to.
@@purpleghost106 Kind of missed the point didn't you? It's intentionally broad to let them bring in any example. I don't care about disqualifiers, I only care about defeaters.
What counts as 'dealt with' is that they were able to move on with their life, or otherwise just got out of their downward spiral. Same basic principle a psychologist would use to measure success in dealing with a disorder or substance issue.
Good point. I was referring more to emotional trauma, depression, different types of abuse, and other things that contribute to addiction with its neurotic behaviours. He hasn't been his best self for sure but for some reason I have a soft spot for him. Sorry you have a Mom with BPD. It is a very destructive and pervasive illness. I worked with a few people with this and it was very hard. I wish you the best.
@@purpleghost106
I'm confused...how did his parents go from struggling to the point of destitution to owning and destroying a fashion store? Man they came into some brief money.
You demonstrated excellent rationale and wisdom in this video, really good character.
Has he stopped shooting dogs to "prepare" for his movie roles and beating women? It's very hard to have any empathy for someone like that.
Shia underestimated the industry’s patience.
But he didn't. That's what drives me absolutely insane. He keeps doing this stuff and keeps getting work. He's already done shooting Francis Ford Coppola's "Megalopolis" which will be in theaters this year. Hollywood directors and produces keep telling LeBeouf there are no consequences for his actions.
@@patrickcorcoran4828That's why he said underestimated, not overestimated.
He likely knows things about the industry you could never imagine.
He has dirt on very very wealthy people. He still has strings
My good friend was one of the individuals that picked up up during that cross country art project he did and spent hours with him. What he told me was the following:
1) he is a really nice guy who is clearly sad
2) he is looking for friends, genuine people that want to be his friend not because of who he is
3) he has been disenfranchised with Hollywood
I understand the struggles he went through, but I can't let myself feel bad for a multi-millionaire while we have literally billions of people living in terrible conditions.
While the megarich support Trump to avoid paying taxes.I vote we tax them the 1960's tax rates I.e 90% plus a 5% wealth tax.They'll still have plenty left over.....lol
As you shouldn't and this guy is a leftist anyway so automatically a shit bag 🤣
He's just as much of a pawn of billionaires (the real people in power) as any of us. He only got a slightly bigger crumb before being crushed by the system.
The key words in this self-excuse are "I can't let myself feel bad": When your friend comes home and tells you she got fired for unjust cause, got robbed on the way home, and got hit by a car outside of your house, do you say "I understand the struggles you went through, but I can't let myself feel bad when you're doing well in life but there are literally billions of people living in terrible conditions."? Empathy isn't conserved; when you use it on one thing it doesn't mean you now have less of it to spend! You "can't let myself feel bad" because you don't want to. Fine, be an unfeeling guy, but don't put it on the poor billions. They have enough troubles without shouldering your misplaced lack of empathy.
So later in his life he followed in his fathers footsteps to become a clown.
you did
@@juandeagle1795 HWNDU was the greatest clown show to ever exist on the planet. And he was responsible for it. Shia wasn't a clown, he was the whole circus and then some.
This is a great synopsis of what Hollywood and celebrity can do to a Talent.
As an actor, he is one of the best, yet as a person and, as you've said, he's made more mistakes than most would in life.
I really hope he becomes the man he can be for his daughter.
Amazing story once again, Kira! 💚
I like Shia still, he cool
Shia is a vulnerable narc with a hint of bipolar. Something I know very well unfortunately. I call it death by Wetiko. I don't know any covert narcs that ever changed. I myself have to struggle with this every second of the day. These people are in so much pain, it's insane and cannot really be conveyed accurately. I think the best thing for us is to be alone and make art (and not be known). I honestly don't know if this demon can be conquered entirely. I really feel for the dude like he's my own blood....and the people who care for him...god help them understand. Deep inside he is just a child trying to feel anything... It's the anhedonia that drives us to extremes... noface as our phersu. And the result is genius...tragic genius.
Typical addict. It's not you, it's a "demon" or "sickness" or people not understanding your pain or your special kind of genius or art. You're all just selfish, abusive people who use others and then throw them away when they aren't useful for you. Nothing else. Even here in the comments you're trying to milk sympathy from people to justify your behaviour. I've seen hundreds of people just like you while working in rehab. I'm guessing your whole comment was rehearsed and you've told it to countless people to garner sympathy and pity so you can manipulate them and get what you want.
I would really like one of these child actors to do a tell all about what kind of torment they were subjected to and what terrible things they’ve been propositioned with and had to do to keep their place at the table because it seems that the only way they don’t end up either busted completely or having their careers rebound is to leave the industry completely or make a metaphorical deal with the devil.
Shia has impulsive issues and probably has some type of inherited neurological disorder.
dude, that look at 15:07 .. you know he's down in despair when he has a look like that despite everything that is going around
Shia LaBeouf has done everything to “ruin” his career. But, he has recently made movies with Francis Ford Coppola, David Mamet, & Abel Ferrera lol. That’s Hollywood for you.
One guy that screwed up the most is Andy Dick, he's done in Hollywood. Look for him and his downfall here on YT.
Yeah. Roman Polanski.
Sure. But one could argue that this is because the people you list puts the art above anything else and that this is a good thing. I mean, it’s problematic that obviously bad people don’t get to experience suitable consequences, but sometimes the art is of great enough value to society that maybe that outweighs not having justice served. There are plenty of examples of art where the artist was a really horrible person, but we wouldn’t want for the art to not exists. H.P. Lovecraft was a horrible racist with fascist tendencies but plenty of people still love his work and wouldn’t want to be without it.
And it's RUclips for you too.... click-bait.
@@metalmike570 - Hollywood actor = Due sh bag
My sympathy for Shia can be found the same place Major Payne's can be found. I'll believe he's changed when it's written on his tombstone cause he's probably just method acting for the final part of his biopic of life in review.
He clearly has a neurological disorder that makes him prone to impulsive behavior and habitual lying. I suspect ADHD and some other co-morbid issues maybe as well as PTSD.
Just a correction: The comic story Shia La Beouf stole from Daniel Clowes was "Justin M. Damiano" (published 2008), not "Ghost World" (published 1997). "Ghost World" is Daniel Clowes' most well-known comic and film adaptation, so it's often brought up as a reference point ("the creator of Ghost World") in the mainstream press whenever they're writing about him.
He did in fact divide us
We found out who the communist's are that's for sure
This statement implies an exaggeration of his importance. He's just an actor at the end of the day, an entertainer, perhaps importance equivalent to a court jester of the past.
@@InVinoVeratas I comply with these words.
From the outside looking in he’s still dividing you. More than you were 30 years ago. Making America great again isn’t necessary, it’s already the most powerful nation on earth. It just needs to keep it that way by taking care of the social issues and collaborating with the rest of the democratic world.
It won’t fix everything but it’s a step towards fixing?
And it was no small division.
I grew up watching Even Steven's. That series and the first few transformers movie were a huge part of my childhood. Seeing where Shia LaBeouf ended up after all these years just makes me feel sad.
If there's any good news to come out of this, it seems what he's been through the last year has been very positive for him and he has been holding himself to his promise to improve as a person, especially with the stuff around Padre Pio. I highly recommend watching his interview with Bishop Barron, for people who want to see how he's managing to get out of his rut finally and get some insight into the mind of a guy like this.
This is a rare comment. And honestly, I was updated about Shia because of Bishop Barron, who also administered to him the Catholic Sacrament of Confirmation on New Year's Eve 2023.
This was such an awesome video, thank you for putting it together. I do think I don't quite agree with your general closing argument that everyone always deserves a chance to be redeemed. There are some "wrongs" that are so extreme, that do so much damage to people or to entire industries, that there is not enough "good" or reflection you can do to ever truly "right the wrong". Physical abuse is one of those, so are things like sexual assault. No one is owed the closure of forgiveness or redemption when they have done something so grievous. Especially for people in the entertainment industry, you are not owed a place in that industry if you have caused so much negative impact to others in it. If your argument is "well what do they have to pursue then?" its just being a better person. You don't get a reward for deciding to finally pursue that minimum threshold, a reward of returning to the status quo should not be the point. Hilariously I think Bojack Horseman's ending depicts that perfectly.
Very well said.
At some point during the video I was picturing LeBeouf's head on Bojack's body during one of the many times Bojack looked like he was going to change, then didn't. I'm glad someone else had a similar thought.
Dude scares me. Like you search his house and find crazy sex toys displayed on the shelves, lists of his enemies with names already crossed out, used toothpicks kept in a jar, homemade taxidermied pet, picture frames with the stock photos still in them, a padlock on the basement door, no kitchen utensils, etc.
I really like how you ended this video with compassion and empathy. It gives me hope for humanity.
just like addicts words are cheap. actions matter. give me 4 years of true change to make up for the scumbagness. I'm sure the guy mainlining ego and narcissism for decades can stop cold turkey(come back in a year or two and tell me i was right as he got into a fight or something weird)
Yeah some people just straight up lie all the time. I am addict and i will always be. I use morphine everyday for my back pain and continue to do so. No need to lie. And no need to go around abusing other people. He can’t blame all his behavior on drinking.
Having such a tough childhood with pressures can create super stars but it often ends badly.
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I genuinely can't tell if he is acting or not, because he seems to love living in that moment of being the wounded animal shown some kindness. I imagine he is a drain on the energy of others around him, and I think he'd be an even more incredible person if he took the ego out of the equation to find out who he really is and start giving energy.
@@gavinpowell4607Wrong. He has a neurological disorder. He's even diagnosed as ADHD. This is a medical problem that has to be treated at a medical level.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff What do you mean wrong
Basically don’t compare and judge others harshly. Everyone has their own faults. If someone seeks redemption don’t deny them. It will only make them irredeemable.
It never ceases to amaze me when we get these stories from celebs in interviews that everyone just accepts as fact. So much of it is clearly made up or distorted. No ten year old just decided to go to a comedy club and perform on stage give me a break.
Dude has gone through more career destroying controversies than Kim Kardashian has gone through desperate rich men.
Both f**k you up real bad
Maybe he really had that eye opening moment that will help him to become a better person. Unfortunately the damage to his career and his reputation has been done and he is not a kid anymore so he has to deal with the consequences like we all have to. He is a talented and self reflected guy, i hope he uses his chance to show the world that he can do better.