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The one lens you'll regret not owning? That boring 50mm.
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I like this, it’s always great to hear someone else’s opinion and their thinking. You’ve really encouraged me to get the 50 out again.
I’m in the ballpark, but despite also being a nifty fifty lover, my favorite walkaround steer prime is around the 40mm mark….. the 27mm Fujifilm pancake for APS-C, the 20mm f1.7 Lumix pancake for my Micro 4/3 shooting, and the vintage legacy Konica Hexanon 40mm f1.8 & 45mm Samyang f1.8 on my Sony A7II for Full Frame work.
I appreciate the touch of mentioning the 110 weather and having a sweater on for the bit at the beginning lol.
The 50 being to tight for street is probably people who live in dense cities or outside of North America where things generally closer together. I can't use my 24 very easily in Denver, but a 35 is almost too tight for Tokyo of that makes sense. ✌️
Makes sense. I think people want to be able to shoot wide stuff because they see others shooting that. If 50 is too tight just shoot earlier.
@@DeeRosa I think the 85mm is the current meme lens I see on Street PhotoTube anyway. I think because it's very non-confrontational and offers new compression and bokeh if you're coming from a smart phone camera.
Shooting earlier isn't always an option when streets are tighter for example. Some roads in Europe and Asia bend and weave like a labyrinth, with not more than 8' of width despite cars still passing. 😂
The best you can get in those spaces with a 50 is a head and shoulders shot sometimes. Which is great for detail, but there's not getting around the tight spaces consistently beyond going wider if you want more context. Plus, if you have bunches of megapixels you can always crop to get back to 50 if you wanted to. I think this is the basic idea of the Leica Q design.
🤷🏻 you know you love 50mm when you have more than one.
Dude, for real. It’s a problem lol. Have a Nikkor 50 1.2, 1.4, 1.8, and 2. 😬
You're absolutely correct. I have an addiction towards 50mm lenses and it keeps growing on me. Im gonna start a "50mm recovery centre" in order to help people recover from 50mm addiction.
Totally agree with you.....remember the days of film photography, when I saw photographers shoot events with only one camera body and 2 lenses, a 50 mm and a 28 mm, the quality of the pictures was awesome !!!!
Might pickup a second Olympus body with a 50!
Thanks for such a thorough explanation and illustration of why 50mm is so effective and contrasting it with other focal lengths. I've heard the argument for 50mm forever, but yours is among the best...
My first camera, a Minolta XG-7, came with a 50mm lens, and it was the only lens I have for many years. I loved it and learned much about photography with that lens.
40mm has to be the most versatile. It's literally inbetween standard and wide. a lot of the time 50mm feels kinda weird. headshots are still kinda distorted. only issue with 40mm is that lens selection is always 2.8 or slower
I appreciate your strong point of view. It's actually refreshing, so thank you for putting it out there! I've been running with a 35mm fixed lens on my RX1 for 12 years now. However, I shoot seeing my crop in frame depending on situation, so often with the crop in post, I can find myself near 50mm FF FOV. I feel your video is a good reminder to not get stuck in any dogma, but to have a handle on intent and tools to achieve that intent. Well done.
Thanks for the comment. Really like this one.
My all time favourite ever is the 50mm focal length do it all length !! I love my 33mm .4
As an amateur who only started shooting with a 50mm equivalent recently, I find it frustrating both for single subjects (not close enough) and for groups, landscape or environmental shots (not wide enough). I’ll probably try a 40mm equivalent to see if that works a bit better for me.
Dee's recommendation for Fujifilm X is 16mm + 35mm + 56mm (roughly 24-50-85 equivalents).
I’m guessing my preference is similar but shifted to be a tad wider: 16mm + 27mm + 50mm (24-40-75).
Or maybe that's just the force of habit (I've mostly used 35mm and 75mm equivalent lenses for 15 years), and I need to shoot 50mm more to get used to it and learn how and when to use it.
That sweaty intro w/ the exposure adjustment got me. Great work.
Thanks. It’s hot.
Some years ago I was lugging DSLR with zooms or couple of big primes. Nowadays it's my Fuji X-E3 + 35 f1.4 and I do everything with that single lens : landscape, portraits, street, general travel / documentary staff and video as well. Love it !
The favourite lens that I own is the Fuji 33mm 1.4, which has a 50mm field of view. I just love it to bits! So yes. I agree with you. Great video.
Such a great lens! No wrong answers but the 33/1.4 is a GREAT answer.
There were a number of good reasons why almost all camera manufacturers used to always include a 50mm f/1.8 lens with all new 35mm camera bodies.
I’d agree!
If I had to guess, I'd say the reason is probably because a 50mm has generally been the cheapest and easiest lens to design, manufacture, and provide with a new camera body.
Back in the film days I carried a 24/2.8, 50/1.4 and sometimes a 135 - but mostly 24 and 50. So with digital I now carry a 16/2.8 and 35/2 and an adapted old Takumar 50 with my Fuji system but mostly the compact 16 and 35. I like your way of thinking.
Love the 35mm fast lens but now am thinking of getting a 75mm and seeing it how that works.
Choosing the right lens for the situation is like choosing attire for the right temperature! 👍
True!
Your editing is awesome on this one. 50mm is still my favorite field of view. The only thing that rivals it for me is my fuji 18 f2. For the longest time I only had the 35 f2, which is still my favorite lens.
Thanks. I’m gonna try some new things coming up.
18 and 35 is the tandem! I actually do that with the 16mm f2.8 and 35mm f2 / 23mm f2 and 50mm f2.
Spot on with this video bro. I LOVE my 55 1.8 Zeiss on my Sony. The 50 is a much better portrait lens than the 35mm. 50 is more than enough when you know how to use it correctly for weddings, events, sports, etc.
That Zeiss 55 is the BEST lens for portraits in the system but people don’t want to listen because it isn’t a f1.2!
LOVED that lens and still do! There was a reason Zeiss made it a f1.8! Because it’s PERFECT.
I absolutely agree with you ! I go back to film cameras. For decades I had pretty much 3 lenses--a 28mm, 50mm, and 135mm. Loved them! For most of the photos that I took , that's all I needed. And yes. About 85-90% of the photos were taken by my 50mm lens! Thanks for your videos!!
Yeah I think me starting with film also did this exact same shaping for me.
I love a 40-45mm, but I have to concede that a 50mm is super versatile. I recently bought a Canon 6D but the only two lenses I have for it are a 40 and 50mm. I don't feel the need for any more. I shoot mainly scenes with a 40mm when out and about and that is why I love it so much as I find it better than the narrower view of a 50, but the 50 is much better for pictures of things and people IMO, and you can still take a decent scene with one. It might not be the best lens for any given situation, but it can cope with most situations really well, excels in low light and is great for people and things. Oh, and unless you want a super fast, super sharp wide open 50, it will be light, compact, have great IQ and be very affordable to boot. I would not be without one.
Started off shooting 35. Then went to 28. Now I shoot 50 and I have to say, it is my favorite focal length. It’s what I keep on my camera 99% of the time. If I need to go wider and don’t have the room to back up, I slap on the 28.
I totally agree - my wedding kit is 28/50/135 (Fuji 18/35/90)
Good kit!
35mm is the jack of all trades and master of none. This is why i own a very large collection of 50mm lenses, probably 35 and counting.
I love this video. I appreciate your perspective, but i would offer that the style of shooting, subject matter and how one's photography journey started would impact one's preferred focal lengths. I personally like a 35mm (story telling lens) and a portrait lens like an 85mm - 105mm (portraits/headshots). However, it is true that a two lens setup that you describe (if you know what you are doing) is probably the best, most practical and most affordable way for new photogs to get started. Keep up the good work.
Agree but I am really falling for the 40mm (and equivalents) now.
It’s a fantastic focal length!
PS:
I also love that fact that you gave a ‘shout out’ to Gordon Parks and his photography.
Perfect rendition of this Texas heat! Hollar from San Marcos, TX! Just discovered street photography and your channel and truly enjoying the content!
“But what do I know, I just do this shit for real for real on god for real“ 😂
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I love 50mm macro lens, a bit smaller aperture, but add another layer of insect photography and product photography.
Yup, 50 is my favorite! My eyes seem to naturally compose for that focal length. 😊
I do have 35mm f1.4 for my fuji system, a cheap ttartisan 25mm f2 for my edc olympus camera, and canon ltm 50mm f1.4 for my vintage rangefinder. 50mm is simply destined to be a do-it-all lens since day one 👍
Agreed. When people tell me they are versatile with one lens that too me they are fine doing the same thing. Over and over. Portrait with a 35 up close will deform faces rendering them goofy. Unless they stand back a lot but hence you can do the same with a 50 at a more comfortable distance for both. In fact my favorite focal length has become 40mm. The extra 5mm makes the difference. But nothing beat lens versatility. I need to own a 24 or 28, 35, 50, 85 and if you can sling the cost a 135mm. Of course 24-70 and 70-200 for the perfect glass collection 😅
Love me a 40mm!
50mm is the best, I wish phones would have it, the trend to go wider and/or longer is a pandemic, just go with the middle it’s solid and won’t fail you
You mentioned this in the video essentially, and I feel pretty lucky now, looking back, that I started on a nifty 50. Through the years I've dabbled and worked with other focal lengths and all that jazz, but it always starts to feel like those are missing *something*, and when I come back to 50...it makes me feel like I'm sitting in the scene of whatever photo I make with it. Which, I would say people may find kinda "boring", but it's true, and at least for me, they feel the most emotive and personal. Great video dude, cheers!
Same. I started on a Yashica 50mm!
43mm on 35mm format is by far the best. FoV is that of the human eye.
Only Pentax make one, the Pentax FA 43mm f/1.9 Limited. It was also availabe in Leica mount. So it really is that good. The character is unique and sublime.
Had one for years. Sold it last year as part of a huge sale of Pentax gear.
Got the Samyang AF 1.8/45 to replace it. Great lens for tiny money (£195 as new, used).
There's a reason that fixed-lens cameras in the "early days" (until 35 mm film compact cameras came along) had "normal" lenses: 50 mm on 35 mm film, 75 or 80 mm on 6x6, 105 mm on 6x9.
I like that 27mm 41ishmm on Fuji. Nice in between range
Great in between. 40mm needs more respect.
Highly agree with you, 50mm is great!
I use 35mm lenses because I think (or it feels like) it's the worst focal legth to use on almost every situations. I like the challenge and I am just that stubborn.
"I do this shit fr fr on God bruh" is why I'm subscribed to ya now 🤞🏾 🤣
I agree 100 %. 50 mm is also my number one. 90 mm number two and 24 mm number three. Since I got a Minolta SRT-101 in 1969, a 50 mm has been my companion on all my photo jobs around the World. 🤓
Perfect kit for full frame 35 = 28mm 50mm 90mm Leave the 50 on the camera 75% of the time.. 28 for wider environmental stuff.. 90 for sneaky up close and portraits.. END OF
Dee acting like the heat made him sweat like that. No no, he just saw Doriyan in a tank top is all.
This so true. Whoriyan for Doriyan all day.
i have been summoned 💅
Love your videos. It’s funny when I switched with fuji I only had money for one lens… I opted for the 35mm f2. While I’ve now acquired other lenses this is still my first choice when I leave the house. It’s small and I love it.
It’s small. It’s sharp. It goes everywhere. It’s a winner.
Good video. Traditionally 50mm hasn't been my favorite but I do find it useful as a solo portrait lens.
In my book 24-35mm is my general purpose/street photography range preference and 50-135mm is my portrait focal length range.
Not bad either way tho!
100% agree with you. I am not a fan of 35mm personally and feel same thing about the 50mm....like the compression.
Yeah I just can’t get 35 to look like I want it to look. So I keep going back to 50 😵💫
50mm just gives a more refined look. Whenever you can get that space to shoot.
50 when I'm shy
28 when I'm fly
I like this 👀
There are two kinds of people, those who like 50mm vs those who don't.
I much prefer using 85mm for street instead of 50mm, 35mm and 28mm is king, followed by 85mm. 50mm just feels like the middle of nowhere.
Thank you for an interesting video. Fun too.
Dee I also live in South Texas. In Brownsville to be exact. The heat ain't no joke!!!! I can totally relate to that piece of the video....TOO FUNNY!!!! I literally LOL when I saw that part.....
Heyyyy my suegros live there and we go frequently!
@@DeeRosa cool
this is so strange cause I was regretting buying the other fuji lenses instead of going with the 35mm f2, this makes me feel better :)
Texas heat ! Haha so true ! I'm in Austin. (Chillin' inside.)
It’s better for everyone 😂
Thats why I use a 45mm and a 24mm when I'm out shooting street.
50mm is awesome. I allways use 50mm. Its underappreciated.
Btw. if you want the most "normal" perspective get a 40mm.
41mm would be (on fullframe) exactly what yout eyes do (Not in fov. We almost see 180°. But remember we have two eyes.)
When I shoot street photography, I favour two kinds of shots: 1) Combination of people and architecture, and 2) Focus on specific street scenes. For 1) I typically use a 28mm lens. For 2) I use a 50mm lens. Could I use a zoom instead? Maybe, but I hate zooms because they're generally big and heavy, and because they slow me down. I prefer the constraints of two separate focal lengths, each specific for a certain perspective. Could I use just a 24 or 28mm lens and then crop when I want a particular scene to stand out? I could, but I hate editing and post-processing. I strive to do almost everything right in-camera, and edit only if/when necessary. Anyway, I've loved the 50mm since I started shooting film in the late 1980s - my first two cameras had a 40mm and 50mm lens respectively, so I 'grew up' with that focal length/field of view. :-) Great video, Dee. Keep it up. Cheers! //Rick
Much appreciated Rick!
Dude, I live in Texas and I have never felt so seen!
Lmao the heat is something we’re all suffering thru
Thanks 👍😁 best video on this topic ever!!!
Appreciate that.
XF 35 1.4 bringing the sauce
It really does
Just want to Tell you that i absolut agree.
Anyone who says “50mm is too tight for street photography” knows 0 about street photography. May be to tight for THEM. That’s another thing. 50mm is the king of all lenses. You just have to go out and shoot for a few years and see what works for you. 35mm is a good companion to 50mm. So is 28mm depending on whether you focus on environments or more subject centric photos. Like Bresson says (regarding this street photography baloney) he said talking about wide angle lenses, that people who use them are short of statements. They have nothing to say, so they have to scream any ole’ nonsense with wide angle lenses. This is why you see so many posers on RUclips calling themselves “street photographers” getting 1 foot away from people and snapping away any crap and calling it great. Actually 28mm is the new 35 because 35 just isn’t wide enough anymore. I feel for me 90% of my photos are on my 50mm. But I do need a 35mm. I need that because you just don’t have the room a lot of the time and also you just are somewhere where you have to be close to the subject, but the good thing is that it’s easy to transition and compose it the same way you would a 50mm. A 28mm is funkier. You can tell is 28mm. 35 and 50 can nicely blend into each other. 28-35-50 would be an ideal trio of lenses. But if you’re a 50 guy and pretty much all your photos are 50mm, i would say a 35mm would be a great companion. You can say the same thing about Erwitt like Bresson, they both preferred 50mm but if you asked them, they said they also had a 35mm, but if you looked at their work you couldn’t tell which was which. You can’t hide a shitty photo when you shoot it at 50mm. It keeps you honest. With a 50mm if you suck it’s obvious you suck.
Dee, call me crazy, but I own five nifty fifties. And not just any 50mm lens but five Leica 50mm lenses. Two LTM fifties for my two Barnack bodies. The 50 DR for my M3. And the Noct 50mm f1.2 and the 50mm f0.95. My other lenses are the 75 which is my favorite Leica focal length and the Lux 28mm f1.4. So call me crazy but this Photography enthusiast agrees with Pro Photog from… Well you know where you’re from. I can’t say the ‘t’ ‘x’ word. Continued happiness and success to you and yours. Be Blessed, Doc Chaps
Great lenses. Easy to know what I’m seeing when I prepare to take the photo.
Keep up do good work chief 50mm is my favorite.
What is layering? Have you done a video on layering or do you recommend one to watch?
For general work the Fuji 16-55 is honestly super solid. Sadly my Fuji 35/1.4 feels a little too soft to me on my xt5 so it hasn’t seen any love recently. Thinking about updating it to the 35 fujicron instead.
35/2 is breezing thru portraits for my XH2
@@DeeRosa Yeah, i came to that realization too.
Just got mine sold today. Thinking about testing out at 7artisans 35/1.4 with leica mount now for a minute since i'm considering getting into that system as well and i'm really astonished by the look that lens has on full frame.
14:22 Man, I miss Whataburger
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Dee, I still shoot a Fuji xt-1 and the 35mm 1.4. I also acquired a couple full-frame cameras. I was tempted to get the Leica Q with a Summicron-M 50mm f/2 but opted for the Nikon d700 and Canon 5d, both with 50mm lenses instead. I saved a couple bucks :) Both cameras are phenomenal and I am really enjoying the 50mm focal length. It works really well with my product shots :) Great video.
Stay cool and hydrated !!!!!
pete
Thanks Pete - yes the hydration is a must!
35mm all day but you’re still my homie 💖
What am I supposed to order at Whataburger? Going to Houston next week
Patty melt with extra creamy pepper sauce on the side is my go to. And get the spicy ketchup.
Mmmhh not wide enough, mmmhhh not close enough
Laws should be passed to ensure that only one nifty fifty video is published on RUclips per annum. Massive fan of the focal length, but do we really need to be told time after time that it's useful?
I didn’t make this for you… so does it count?
I appreciate it
I assume you are talking about "full frame" format !? Yes, the 50mm is VERY boring for "full frame". I have done Photography since 1979, the 50mm was never "popular" ! it was a kit Lens you often could not avoid to get, so a uge amount of 50mm Lenses was parked in a box on the attic, that is why it is easy to find an analog old 50mm Lens for "full frame" i very good condition today ! The 50mm Lens got popular when digital APSC format came around, that make sense, because a 50mm 1.4 is a great portrait Lens for the APSC format. I will say, for "full frame" format ANY Lens shorter or Longer than 50mm can be used, so 45mm or shorter or 55mm or Longer !
San Antonio heat sucks!
Notifications on demon time 💪🏾🔥 🔥
Was it difficult to match that audio transition at 2:40 ? Really effective
Not at all! Just layered my audio tracks - I record external audio so matching it was easier than recording internally and losing audio when I cut my clip.
@@DeeRosa Thank you 😊
What focal length are you using for the talking head?
I've been shopping for an XF35 f2 for a while now for my X-T3(I'm a slow shopper who waits patiently. LOL!). But, are there any good vintage 35mm lenses you're familiar with that I could shop for as well? Keep cool down there Dee!!! Have a great weekend.
Oh man if you can get your hands on OLYMPUS 35mm film lenses. Or some Contax Zeiss 35mm lenses!
@@DeeRosa Those Contax Zeiss lenses bring some big money. I have a couple vintage lenses: Canon FD, Pentax, Rikenon; but none are 50mm FF equiv for my X-T3. Have to do some shopping! Thanks and have a great weekend.
So because I'm in love with my 35 mm 1.4 fuiji I'm really in love with a 50mm. Quick question why don't put the equivalent on the box ?
Probably a mix of reasons: the exact equivalent can look strange (35 × 1.52 = 53.2); it could confuse some people into thinking it’s a 50mm or a 35-50mm zoom; giving the equivalent “focal length” (actually the focal length that would give and equivalent field of view) for full-frame is common, but not universal (there are a bunch of micro 4/3 shooters and some medium format shooters out there).
Plus some lenses are designed for full-frame but still usable on APS-C, so giving both the actual focal lens plus the crop-to-full-frame equivalent on the box might be helpful for APS-C users but would be mightily confusing for full-frame users.
There are just too many parameters involved, such as what camera you’re actually using the lens *with*, for the lens itself to give you that information. You’ll have to calculate it yourself or look it up in more detailed documentation.
Because it LITERALLY IS a 35mm lens. The field of view changes but not the focal length and properties of that makes sense.
I hate how photography internet can’t just listen to someone’s opinions on a focal length, and just enjoy the video that they clicked on ha. If you f with 35 like I do, I don’t care that homie loves 50 more. I know the limits of my 35, and everything you’re saying is right… for my Sony “professional on job kit” I bring the 50 1.2. Didn’t buy a 85 and didn’t buy a 35.. 50 is everything and easily the best tool for most things. On my Leica, and when I was first starting I got a 35 and I use 35 when im not doing client work. Because it’s my favorite. Lol let homie enjoy his 50 without blowing up his comments about 35. Haha there’s no right answer for lens choice, theres always pros and cons.
It be like that lol
I prefer either the 35mm or the 85mm. For me, the 50mm feels generic... not too wide nor too tight
Sounds good to me. Like I said - a lot of people view it as boring.
I shot 50mm on full frame for years. I got a 35 and never went back.
Ain’t nothing wrong with a 35mm lifestyle.
Well-done!
It's called "Nifty 50" for a reason.
But I’m making the case that it shouldn’t just be nifty. I call it the Freaky Fifty 🫡
Over the decades, I have used 40, 45, 50, and 55mm normal lenses on 35mm film cameras.
My personal favorite 50mm lens was the 8-element 50mm f/1.4 Pentax Takumar.
Pentax falling apart because they refused to change with the times is a serious disservice to photography in general 😞
what is anyone to say what is too tight a lens for any case, if I go to 250mm to shoot, is it wrong? and yes 50mm is really good for everything.
50 ml
Mannn I must say I used to truly hate the 50mm. Why? Because I had the Sony 50mm 1.8 bih was louder than a ratchet trying to get in the club for free 🤣🤣🤣. Granted I have a 50mm fd lens that I use with my xpro1 along with my 35mm.
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#40mmLivesMatter 😂 just saying… definitely my favourite but YMMV…!
Y’all are seen 🫡
I often get seduced by the allure of wider or longer but in the end I always to back to 50mm
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I don’t like the 50 and I certainly don’t regret not having one in my bag lol all comes down to preference
No way?! You don’t say?!