Though I'd like to think Biblaridion's "Alien Biospheres" really jump started the recent rise of spec evolution. Like, it was there before, but that series kicked it into high gear.
@Marshal Marrs Good thing that it takes a lot of knowledge to be properly recodnized in the community at large, it has quite high entry level which is nice since any trivial passerby will just get bored and leave, so that only the trully fascinated people will stay and eventually contribute.
I really like the fact that the design of the yaetuan and their expression is very relatable, it may be not really scientifically accurate that "smiling" is a commun trait for express happiness but I think it's no big deal.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct Yes I know, sorry if my English isn't great but that was I was trying to say, the truly alien aspect was sacrificed to make them more relatable. It's hard for a lot of people to worry about being too insectoid for example (but don't get me wrong, some do just fine, like Alex Ries and his Birrins). My thinking was precisely to know if it was a good thing or not.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct but I do not agree for the "uncreative" aspect, there are a lot of original idea, like the body plan, the beak-like structure, the four eyes very far from each other, the big neck and the little body etc.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct Not really. If they have four feet and a beak, then they obviously aren't human at all. It's better than a lot of "alien" designs in stuff like Star Wars or Star Trek where they are basically bipedal humanoids with slightly different skin textures or minor traits. Being both bird-like AND quadrupedal clearly marks the Yaetuans as obviously distinct from us.
Smiling is so not commonly an expression of joy that in our closest relative's the chimp's case it means being uneasy. And you defenetly don't wanna be near an uneasy chimp
I love how hopeful this is. The Yaetuans met and fell at every hurdle we have faced, but they pushed on. It’s that same human(oid) spirit that has driven us forward as far as we’ve gotten, coupled with the promise that we can always make things better, no matter how bad it gets. As long as we cling to life, we can still come back.
Imagine if the Yetuan's met Birrins and together they began to gradually find other Intelligent Beings from other Planets and gradually began to create an Intergalactic Union
They were non-humanoid and it looked so interesting, but I'm very disappointed by the story, it's just human history no unique alien traits are explored
This. This right here. This is the level of world-building that I, as an aspiring science fiction / alternate history writer, hope to one day achieve. Christian Cline's books, as well as the work of Alex Ries and (I don't remember his name) the guy who writes Serina, have all been huge inspirations to me and doubtless many others. The artwork in of itself is breathtaking but the ideas behind them are even more so. And the fact that most of it is based around real scientific laws and principles only makes it even more interesting. Anyone can create a fantasy creature or monster, but creating something that could realistically exist; that's just way more incredible to me. It just helps to show people how wondrous and amazing biology and evolution can get. Edit: Also, does that fat Yaetuan at 14:30 have a missing back leg? That makes me sad 😢.
It's literally our history, but viewed through a lense of an alien species (with minor differences to our own history), and it contains a prophecy of a possible future for us, starting with the terraforming of "Not Mars"/Exomars. That's why it's so good, and I love it!
These works have also inspired me with my own speculative biology projects. It's so awesome to see people out there becoming successful off of a topic you're interested in. Their works are so amazing not just because of the artwork, but also the incredible imagination and detail behind everything. By the way, Dylan Bajda wrote Serina (I think)
@@ArachisNPO this was kind of my realization. The creatures themselves are very elaborate and amazing, but this is just kind of human history. *I do not mean this in a bad way and i love the video
I used to create spec evo worlds so much as a child. You've recently rekindled that passion in me and have caused me to start back up with a project I started back in high school nearly twelve years ago! I absolutely love all of your videos, keep up the great work
Glad to see Cline publishing again :D Despite how relatively recent a work it is, _The Teeming Universe_ has forever secured a place in my all time one-hundred favourite books. An essential addition to any speculative biology library.
This is so cool! It's literally our, humanity's story, but viewed through the eyes of an alien species (and we are the aliens in this context). In other words, this lets us feel how an alien species would view us, if they would learn about our history. With really minor differences (the Roman Empire split and fell, but not because of a super volcano; we didn't have a nuclear war, but almost, and two Japanese cities were nuked down; etc.) 13:16 And from this point forward, it's a prophecy of a possible future for humanity.
that's a good interpretation, I guess, mine was that it was not really original and just human history with slight change and we have beaks. Not endearing to me at all...
@@PabloYaos Well, if we imagine realistic aliens, is very likely that they would follow how path of civilization. So it's pretty normal that this book is similar to our History
@@fabriziobiancucci7702 I feel like that's impossible to know though. sure, they could follow our route, but what if they don't feel emotions? what if they're big worms that are super smart? I feel like real aliens would be completely foreign to us, they are alien in nature, not just in name
@@doctorwatermelon99 A creature without emotions would also have no reason of improving. Their society would be stagnant, that means that they never go on after the Stone Age. Humans were able to develop because of their curiosity, desire, and a lot of other emotions. Also, basically all intelligent animals on Earth has complex emotions and relationships, that means that probably the evolution of intelligence is connected to the one of the emotions. So no, there will be no big intelligent worms without emotions. Aliens "truly aliens" cannot exist for our current understanding of how life and civilization work. It's true, we cannot say it for sure (just like we cannot say if we are alone in this universe or not), but we can make theories based on science, and our current science thinks that aliens, even if they could be very different in culture, language and aspects, they all go through our similar stage of civilization
I think this is almost more speculative extraterrestrial anthropology or history rather than biology. Which I don't mean to be criticism but an appreciation of variety this kind of art is being able to create.
I mean, yes but also no. Speculative biology isn't just about the physical changes of the fictional organisms, but also how they interact with each other and their environment. Real life cetaceans, elephants and apes have tool-using skills and defined "cultures" of community ways of life, yet they are just as much classified in biology as any other "wild" animal. There is no issue with applying this same standard to the Yaetuans and their ways of life, given that they are even further removed from humans than any of those real-life animals.
@@mrreyes5004 Correct me if I'm wrong (Also I apologize seeing as your comment is a month old) but wouldn't you define that as speculative anthropology? Biology would be based entirely on their physical design which appears to be pretty heavily compromised in the sense that these just wouldn't evolve naturally because a lot of their features which are so heavily defining just don't make sense.
I think they were in an earlier episode, were they? Still, I really appreaciate how incredible the Yaetuan saga is, Cline really manages to bridge speculative biology with speculative anthropology and history and imagine a future in which after much effort is taken to a better world
Christian Cline's works are constistently some of the most impressive world building I've seen. I love the design and history the Yaetuans, and their culture reminds of a blend of Chinese, Japanese, with splashes of modern North American and European in their technological apex. Cline is a fantastic artist and his writing and drawings really show it.
I bought the Teeming Universe book because of this channel! This looks amazing! The Yaetuan’s history is so incredible! I’d definitely watch a Yaetuan mocumentary series
@@gi1dor Give me your idea of a realistic alien civilization, then. And no, I will not accept a species of energy-based geometric shapes, both culture and evolution often converge, as crabs, wings, dragons (As in the myths of things that can be called dragons) and pottery, famously show.
@@HOLDENPOPE So, to support my argument that I don't like this story because it's not interesting, repurposes human history and doesn't use any unique alien biological differences I should I write my own book about a fictional alien civilization using limitations put on my by someone from YT comments? I think I'm fine as it is
@@gi1dor Yes, because right now you have not backed up what you've said. What differences do you even *want*? Intelligent lifeforms are going to have different nations, wars, levels of progress and regression, names, and so on. Intelligent lifeforms need manipulation appendages and large, complex brains. The Yaetuan are already six-limbed, four-eyed birds, how alien do you want them to be, interconnected geometric shapes as impossible to add this level of detail to as the aliens from Arrival.?
This makes me think a lot to Bibliaridion's "Alien biospheres" on youtube. A playlist of about 8h30 of evolving all that lives on one planet until it soon reaches self-conscious lifeforms !
Will you one day considered to do a video about the Pikmin franchise universe or one about the 2005 Skull Island version, with the help of the extended book "The World of Kong : A Natural History of Skull Island" ? Because that would be really interesting subject to speak and explore about !
@@theguywhoasked6858 That just sad that they end up making the 1935 island sinking into the sea, making extinct all the creatures we see both in the movie and the book. That truly a middle finger to all the people that made the illustration and this worbuilding (since most of what we see are just concepts arts and cut content created for the movie they end up reusing them for the book) and their work. That wasn't necessary to made the ultimate fate of the island identical to the original 1935 one from the original King Kong. (which in itself is already made in such dumb ways. When taking a treasure from its hidden place provoke the sinking of an entire island ? That jumping the shark).
@@dalekrenegade2596 Yeah, Unnatural History Channel is a great RUclips Channel. I already see some of his videos. Not all because they easily reach the 40 min to more than an hour long for most. But yeah, great stuff otherwise. Still, it's still interesting to see the take of different persons about the same subject.
Hey Curious Archives!! You need to cover the series “Tales of Kaimere” by Keenan Taylor! He has a super detailed world based around earth-based life being brought to another planet to evolve independently and it’s author is an awesome guy who collaborates with his fans to add different facets to his world!
I'm glad Christian mentioned religion through the second wave of settlers on Agda, I feel like religion is never used in speculative alien races (most likely because atheism and scientific knowledge go hand in hand), so seeing a religion, though minor, be mentioned is very nice.
There are a lot of things i disagree with in your comment Religions could be derived from science, and science was originally motivated by religion and philosophy in our own world. Plus, a lot of fiction including aliens has some kind of religion for them.
@@accidiaet Atheism is simply the position held by those whom are not convinced that gods exist. That's the gist of it. Also, your second statement is simply dishonest. Atheism does not contrast with scientific principles at all. Being an atheist is a scientific position, as both atheists and scientists don't make predetermined assumptions without evidence.
I really love the idea of showing how cultural differences appear naturally in the Yatuans (It makes them feel so much more alive in the way their enviroment and experiences shape their culture and identity, much like with humans in our own history.)
I've read this and "The Teeming Universe" for myself and I'm so glad I did. Christian Cline's works are amazing and have been a fairly large inspiration for the sci-fi game I'm making with a few friends.
it is always a joy in my day when i see a new video from Curious Archive pop up. These videos are always so interesting and always leave me wanting more
I love these videos, they’re so interesting and well put together. If you haven’t already, i think you should do biology of the half-life series, there’s many cool creatures in the series. I hope you do 😊
I think what a lot of people complaining about in the comments, that the Yaetuan are "too human" is a flawed argument. It doesn't matter what the author does, because the author is human and we are human, we are going to find the patterns that make the aliens "human".
I think convergent evolution and various environmental and species physiology would factor in as to if they became a space faring civilization. Extreme temperatures, High gravity, certain gaseous atmospheres, etc…would pretty much force certain species to be planet bound.
A human author can make an inhuman alien species. Look at the biology of the Birrin, for example. They are *completely* foreign to us, they have their own unique facial expressions, and honestly, I feel like they’re just a far more well-written alien species.
I loved this video and it reminded me of The Children of Time book. The plot has humanity trying to spred out into the Galaxy, but thing go awry and they up lift spiders. It's a fascinating read.
I count at least 3 Bronze Age Collapse like event, 1 Fallout-esque fate, at least 3 Cyberpunk era and it ends with Star Trek/War-esque utopia. Stellar works
I hope someday someone will do a project on what the Aliens in the movies would look like in terms of Science and Speculative Biology how they would realistically evolve on their Earth-like planets what their cultures and worldviews would have been like how they would have made it to the Cosmic Era and how difficult it would have been for humans to make contact with them
That space elevator is like 10x larger than it really needs to be. It's not uncommon for artists to not realize just how gargantuan our planets really are. Also, "megalithic" refers specifically to structures like stonehenge or big stone structures, and not "megastructures"
Something I love about this saga is how fleshed out everything is. Too often in sci-fi a lot of key details, such as the history of an alien species or their culture, or even the planet they live on, aren't explored much. Seriously this would be an amazing documentary series.
Humanity must learn from The Yaetuan's History And Examples, We MUST LEARN From They're Mistakes and Accomplishments In Order for They're Mistakes Doesn't Happen To Us
In my opinion a hexapod with an internal skeleton (as opposed to arthropods) would soon lose one of the pairs of limbs. They just get in the way more than they are useful. May be that pair takes on a vestigial, supplemental role for manipulation or grasping, but even for strong gripping making one of two pairs bimodal (locomotion/gripping) is more efficient because otherwise you end up with another pair of beefy limbs getting in the way all the time. It's probably worse once you try climbing and swinging through trees...
I don know i mean if you look at all of insects, i cant really find a single one that lost a pair of limbs (excluding those that just lose all of them as a result of what tends to happen when being a hyperspecilised parasite). If a pair of limbs are in the way, then just move them farther apart from one another, spiders even use them in order to do delicate maneuvers with their webs while having 8 legs (corse they don't really have traditional fingers, but the legs do not ever get in the way with one another)
Well you’re in luck since these animals appear to have joint structures more like that of arthropods with backwards facing hindlimbs shaped like those of crickets and forelimbs pointing forwards
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 That's not what arthropod or exosceleton means. The way they are drawn it looks indeed as if their hindlegs are on the way out. Imagine them trying to run fast. They'd probably balance on their middle leg pair and become bipedal. They already have that awkward slant to balance their weight over the middle.
@@yjlom standing on two legs is plenty stable due to the computational power in the brain. Dinosaurs evolved it, maybe multiple times, including eventually birds. Some reptile species show bipedal motion occasionally. Mammals evolved it multiple times (marsupials, primates, gerbils...).
Nice world building, but it shares the problem I have with many of those alien evolution fantasies; the aliens are basically just weird looking humans, in this case with a couple of extra limbs and a beak.
You might be interested in Jay Eaton's Runaway to the Stars then - she has aliens that are akin to bugs and moles, but yet have created their own civilizations and interacts with humans.
I think slime molds would be a fun thought experiment. No bones, no central brain, yet they can manipulate their environment, learn, grow and reproduce.
i have a formation in classical latin and was like "why is their name yaetuan, it's not like we're human because we come from the planet Hum" then remembered the hum in human does, in fact, mean Earth, as in humus.
To be fair, I think the reason why the Yaetuans are so well described is because it's just human evolution and history applied to some "Aliens". Take any of the pictures in the video and replace them with humans and you just have a regular sci-fi story. I think it would be a lot more interesting if the "Aliens" would be more than just humans with additional 4 feet and a beak. They have hands, use the same huts as humans did, did farming with something that very much looks like wheat, have the same tools as we, they also use skyscrapers and they even have their version of the golden gate bridge and roman architecture. Detailed? Maybe yes. Original and interesting? Not at all. Whoever invented them could have given them a completely different biology, other senses, different history, but didn't.
Was thinking the same thing. I feel like Adrian Tchaikovsky did a better job with speculative sci-fi in Children of time ; his aliens are deliberately non anthropomorphic.
Kinda depends on how much stock you place in convergent evolution. It could easily be the case that due to finding similar solutions to similar problems that most alien species are not too different from us with the more "alien" ones being outliers.
Biological evolution is limited to the laws of physics. We already established that carbon-based life generally can only emerge and prosper on an Earth-like planet with similar properties(proximity to star, climate and atmosphere, size and gravity etc). Physics are (mostly) constant and consistent around the universe with the exception of certain phenomenon and quantum physics, and biology is restricted to these physics so it's safe to say that an intelligent life on an Terran planet would evolve and develop similarly to humans. They would solve the same issues as humans as their brains expand and potentially come into conflict with each other also similarly to humans. Aliens are not gonna look alien for the sake of being alien. Humans evolved large brains and great intelligence in order to keep up with our complex social groups and environment. We've always been a social species, and we may have developed our intelligence in part to maintain those relationships and function successfully in these environments. This to me seems more plausible for an alien civilization than the alien aliens(speaking of intelligent extraterrestrial civilizations not alian lifeforms).
While a little cliche with basically just following earth history (past and potential future), seeing it from this vantage point really gives you a different perspective.
I like the art and how it's based in reality and science. However I was kinda disappointed it's so strongly based off of human history and I feel like some creative opportunities were missed. But I've seen some other comments here that are happy with this and I can see where they're coming from.
@@C-Farsene_5, your planet has no ecological problem. It’ll heal itself given time, that’s how tenacious life is once it establishes itself. The problems are yours, your kind does not want to go extinct, your kind does not want to live without the biological diversity its used to. Niches will be filled when vacated by the extinct, don’t worry. Everything is a source of energy, even the pollution you despise will one day be food for the creature who take advantage of the free energy no other lineage can breakdown.
Speculative biology is growing as a result of your channel and I’m so happy because of it! The communities growth is beautiful to see
Man I remember when the video on all tomorrow's came out and the community just exploded ever since and its so great I love it
@Marshal Marrs schizo biology
Though I'd like to think Biblaridion's "Alien Biospheres" really jump started the recent rise of spec evolution. Like, it was there before, but that series kicked it into high gear.
I just love the spec bio community, it’s so chill and supportive in general. Truly a wonderful community!
@Marshal Marrs Good thing that it takes a lot of knowledge to be properly recodnized in the community at large, it has quite high entry level which is nice since any trivial passerby will just get bored and leave, so that only the trully fascinated people will stay and eventually contribute.
I really like the fact that the design of the yaetuan and their expression is very relatable, it may be not really scientifically accurate that "smiling" is a commun trait for express happiness but I think it's no big deal.
That was kind of uncreative imo, they're just humans with 4 feet and a beak
@@dang-x3n0t1ct Yes I know, sorry if my English isn't great but that was I was trying to say, the truly alien aspect was sacrificed to make them more relatable. It's hard for a lot of people to worry about being too insectoid for example (but don't get me wrong, some do just fine, like Alex Ries and his Birrins).
My thinking was precisely to know if it was a good thing or not.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct but I do not agree for the "uncreative" aspect, there are a lot of original idea, like the body plan, the beak-like structure, the four eyes very far from each other, the big neck and the little body etc.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct Not really. If they have four feet and a beak, then they obviously aren't human at all. It's better than a lot of "alien" designs in stuff like Star Wars or Star Trek where they are basically bipedal humanoids with slightly different skin textures or minor traits. Being both bird-like AND quadrupedal clearly marks the Yaetuans as obviously distinct from us.
Smiling is so not commonly an expression of joy that in our closest relative's the chimp's case it means being uneasy. And you defenetly don't wanna be near an uneasy chimp
I love how hopeful this is. The Yaetuans met and fell at every hurdle we have faced, but they pushed on. It’s that same human(oid) spirit that has driven us forward as far as we’ve gotten, coupled with the promise that we can always make things better, no matter how bad it gets. As long as we cling to life, we can still come back.
Imagine if the Yetuan's met
Birrins and together they began to gradually find other Intelligent Beings from other Planets and gradually began to create an Intergalactic Union
@@bipicrevec1238 Just imagine if all the space species he's covered on this channel unite.
@@GuywithaTrexskullonhishead not sure if they would be fond of the All Mother's little children
Imagine the Galactic Republic but with the species that were covered by CA
The indomitable Yaetuan spirit
these non humanoid aliens is why I love science fiction, an animated mini series of the story would be cool
They were non-humanoid and it looked so interesting, but I'm very disappointed by the story, it's just human history no unique alien traits are explored
@@gi1dor Yes idk why everyone is so hyped about this worldbuilding I mean it's detailed but it is clearly based off a template
@@gi1dorYeah didn’t want to be rude because there’s a lot of effort put in but I feel like this is just alternate human history, not /alien/ history.
EXACTLY BRUH@@nikolirikoli5966
They could’ve done so much more with this, and make them different from humans
The beakpaste ad made me chuckle, it's so charming seeing something so alien and yet so familiar at the same time
Same here. In case you haven't read it yet the book provides a translation. It sounds like something straight out of the 1950s!
This. This right here. This is the level of world-building that I, as an aspiring science fiction / alternate history writer, hope to one day achieve. Christian Cline's books, as well as the work of Alex Ries and (I don't remember his name) the guy who writes Serina, have all been huge inspirations to me and doubtless many others. The artwork in of itself is breathtaking but the ideas behind them are even more so. And the fact that most of it is based around real scientific laws and principles only makes it even more interesting. Anyone can create a fantasy creature or monster, but creating something that could realistically exist; that's just way more incredible to me. It just helps to show people how wondrous and amazing biology and evolution can get.
Edit: Also, does that fat Yaetuan at 14:30 have a missing back leg? That makes me sad 😢.
Brilliant comment. I completely agree with you.
It's literally our history, but viewed through a lense of an alien species (with minor differences to our own history), and it contains a prophecy of a possible future for us, starting with the terraforming of "Not Mars"/Exomars. That's why it's so good, and I love it!
These works have also inspired me with my own speculative biology projects. It's so awesome to see people out there becoming successful off of a topic you're interested in. Their works are so amazing not just because of the artwork, but also the incredible imagination and detail behind everything. By the way, Dylan Bajda wrote Serina (I think)
@@ArachisNPO this was kind of my realization. The creatures themselves are very elaborate and amazing, but this is just kind of human history.
*I do not mean this in a bad way and i love the video
Why would seeing a disabled character make you sad? /gen
I hope I'm not that much of a disappointment 😂
I used to create spec evo worlds so much as a child. You've recently rekindled that passion in me and have caused me to start back up with a project I started back in high school nearly twelve years ago! I absolutely love all of your videos, keep up the great work
Glad to see Cline publishing again :D Despite how relatively recent a work it is, _The Teeming Universe_ has forever secured a place in my all time one-hundred favourite books. An essential addition to any speculative biology library.
This is so cool! It's literally our, humanity's story, but viewed through the eyes of an alien species (and we are the aliens in this context). In other words, this lets us feel how an alien species would view us, if they would learn about our history. With really minor differences (the Roman Empire split and fell, but not because of a super volcano; we didn't have a nuclear war, but almost, and two Japanese cities were nuked down; etc.)
13:16 And from this point forward, it's a prophecy of a possible future for humanity.
that's a good interpretation, I guess, mine was that it was not really original and just human history with slight change and we have beaks. Not endearing to me at all...
@@PabloYaos Well, if we imagine realistic aliens, is very likely that they would follow how path of civilization. So it's pretty normal that this book is similar to our History
@@fabriziobiancucci7702 I feel like that's impossible to know though. sure, they could follow our route, but what if they don't feel emotions? what if they're big worms that are super smart? I feel like real aliens would be completely foreign to us, they are alien in nature, not just in name
@@doctorwatermelon99 A creature without emotions would also have no reason of improving. Their society would be stagnant, that means that they never go on after the Stone Age. Humans were able to develop because of their curiosity, desire, and a lot of other emotions. Also, basically all intelligent animals on Earth has complex emotions and relationships, that means that probably the evolution of intelligence is connected to the one of the emotions. So no, there will be no big intelligent worms without emotions. Aliens "truly aliens" cannot exist for our current understanding of how life and civilization work. It's true, we cannot say it for sure (just like we cannot say if we are alone in this universe or not), but we can make theories based on science, and our current science thinks that aliens, even if they could be very different in culture, language and aspects, they all go through our similar stage of civilization
no nuclear war... yet.
I think this is almost more speculative extraterrestrial anthropology or history rather than biology. Which I don't mean to be criticism but an appreciation of variety this kind of art is being able to create.
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I mean, yes but also no. Speculative biology isn't just about the physical changes of the fictional organisms, but also how they interact with each other and their environment. Real life cetaceans, elephants and apes have tool-using skills and defined "cultures" of community ways of life, yet they are just as much classified in biology as any other "wild" animal. There is no issue with applying this same standard to the Yaetuans and their ways of life, given that they are even further removed from humans than any of those real-life animals.
@@mrreyes5004 Correct me if I'm wrong (Also I apologize seeing as your comment is a month old) but wouldn't you define that as speculative anthropology? Biology would be based entirely on their physical design which appears to be pretty heavily compromised in the sense that these just wouldn't evolve naturally because a lot of their features which are so heavily defining just don't make sense.
@@CrabcakeAR Anthropology focuses exclusively on the study of humanity.
@@ominous-omnipresent-they Which is what this video is doing. It's copy paste of the history of humanity.
Your the reason i love speculative biology keep it up always excited to see what's next
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@@mrtoothless lol thanks
I think they were in an earlier episode, were they? Still, I really appreaciate how incredible the Yaetuan saga is, Cline really manages to bridge speculative biology with speculative anthropology and history and imagine a future in which after much effort is taken to a better world
You're thinking of the teeming universe episode
That was a different species but they look similar because they're both from the same creator
@@odanedmcdonald No, those were Yaetuans
In that they have colonised an area of like 20 worlds
Humans met Yaetuans in the teeming universe which is cool
Christian Cline's works are constistently some of the most impressive world building I've seen. I love the design and history the Yaetuans, and their culture reminds of a blend of Chinese, Japanese, with splashes of modern North American and European in their technological apex. Cline is a fantastic artist and his writing and drawings really show it.
I bought the Teeming Universe book because of this channel! This looks amazing! The Yaetuan’s history is so incredible! I’d definitely watch a Yaetuan mocumentary series
I love how realistic the yaetuan saga is. It isnt a straight line but it has its ups and downs
Yeah, realistic it's just slightly changed human history
@@gi1dor only Earth will never unite as one
@@gi1dor Give me your idea of a realistic alien civilization, then. And no, I will not accept a species of energy-based geometric shapes, both culture and evolution often converge, as crabs, wings, dragons (As in the myths of things that can be called dragons) and pottery, famously show.
@@HOLDENPOPE So, to support my argument that I don't like this story because it's not interesting, repurposes human history and doesn't use any unique alien biological differences I should I write my own book about a fictional alien civilization using limitations put on my by someone from YT comments? I think I'm fine as it is
@@gi1dor Yes, because right now you have not backed up what you've said. What differences do you even *want*? Intelligent lifeforms are going to have different nations, wars, levels of progress and regression, names, and so on. Intelligent lifeforms need manipulation appendages and large, complex brains. The Yaetuan are already six-limbed, four-eyed birds, how alien do you want them to be, interconnected geometric shapes as impossible to add this level of detail to as the aliens from Arrival.?
This makes me think a lot to Bibliaridion's "Alien biospheres" on youtube. A playlist of about 8h30 of evolving all that lives on one planet until it soon reaches self-conscious lifeforms !
P.s. it is Bibliaridion's videos which brought me to enjoy speculative evolution as I do now
I have a feeling he’ll cover Alien Biospheres soon if the most recent video is the last one of the series.
@@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 there is one more planned
@@burningbronze7555 I should’ve finished watching the video :niggablue:.
Hope he does alien biospheres, I just made a similar comment before seeing this
Christian casually dropping the most awsome book about evolution ever is the best
and make my life more than 60 percent better
Will you one day considered to do a video about the Pikmin franchise universe or one about the 2005 Skull Island version, with the help of the extended book "The World of Kong : A Natural History of Skull Island" ?
Because that would be really interesting subject to speak and explore about !
I agree, skull island is a topic woven in mystery. And the early concepts are even more interesting!
@@theguywhoasked6858 That just sad that they end up making the 1935 island sinking into the sea, making extinct all the creatures we see both in the movie and the book.
That truly a middle finger to all the people that made the illustration and this worbuilding (since most of what we see are just concepts arts and cut content created for the movie they end up reusing them for the book) and their work.
That wasn't necessary to made the ultimate fate of the island identical to the original 1935 one from the original King Kong. (which in itself is already made in such dumb ways. When taking a treasure from its hidden place provoke the sinking of an entire island ?
That jumping the shark).
Agree, though it would be tough to make a video to that Island justice which the Unnatural History Channel does brilliantly.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Yeah, Unnatural History Channel is a great RUclips Channel. I already see some of his videos.
Not all because they easily reach the 40 min to more than an hour long for most.
But yeah, great stuff otherwise.
Still, it's still interesting to see the take of different persons about the same subject.
Thank you for a new video CA! You are probably in my top 10 for favorite channels on this site!
Hey Curious Archives!! You need to cover the series “Tales of Kaimere” by Keenan Taylor! He has a super detailed world based around earth-based life being brought to another planet to evolve independently and it’s author is an awesome guy who collaborates with his fans to add different facets to his world!
that sound quite similar to serina
@Winter There is a difference. There is magic, and the animals are harvested over across the history of earth.
@@shingtiong9425 that sounds really interesting. I might check it out
@Winter ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
This right here. I've been following the series since I was sixteen. Pretty good.
10:16 when your custom character appears in a cutscene
I'm glad Christian mentioned religion through the second wave of settlers on Agda, I feel like religion is never used in speculative alien races (most likely because atheism and scientific knowledge go hand in hand), so seeing a religion, though minor, be mentioned is very nice.
"Christian mentioned religion" lol
Ever played Halo?
Agnostic beliefs go hand in hand with scientific knowledge. Atheism is in direct contrast to scientific principles
There are a lot of things i disagree with in your comment
Religions could be derived from science, and science was originally motivated by religion and philosophy in our own world.
Plus, a lot of fiction including aliens has some kind of religion for them.
@@accidiaet
Atheism is simply the position held by those whom are not convinced that gods exist. That's the gist of it.
Also, your second statement is simply dishonest. Atheism does not contrast with scientific principles at all. Being an atheist is a scientific position, as both atheists and scientists don't make predetermined assumptions without evidence.
Imagine if they met the Birrin?
I MISREAD THAT AS “Imagine if they met the British” HELLPPP 😭✋
they may not think humans are intelligent wait utill they meet the meta human
crossover of the century
A Human, A Birrin, A Yaetuan And A BirdBug Walks Into A Bar....
I really love the idea of showing how cultural differences appear naturally in the Yatuans (It makes them feel so much more alive in the way their enviroment and experiences shape their culture and identity, much like with humans in our own history.)
Thank you for the reminder that I need to work on my Sci-Fi setting too and the aliens 💀
Love the video!
I love how much detail went into the art, definitely buying the book
i love the " one small step for a yaetuan" that made me laugh!
You always love to see a speculative biology project that doesn't forget to add integument to its creatures
Always happy when a new vid from u comes out
You don't know how long I was waiting for you to upload a video. Finally thank you
I've read this and "The Teeming Universe" for myself and I'm so glad I did. Christian Cline's works are amazing and have been a fairly large inspiration for the sci-fi game I'm making with a few friends.
Super cool, nice coverage and I always appreciate that you don't give away the whole thing.
*Death battle: the Birrin empire vs. The Yaetuan empire*
WAIT! You forgot the dinosauroids.
I wanted this so badly. I absolutely loved "The Teeming Universe" and this is just perfect.
Always good to see another vid!
I hope some day we get more speculative biology documentaries
it is always a joy in my day when i see a new video from Curious Archive pop up. These videos are always so interesting and always leave me wanting more
I love these videos, they’re so interesting and well put together. If you haven’t already, i think you should do biology of the half-life series, there’s many cool creatures in the series. I hope you do 😊
I think what a lot of people complaining about in the comments, that the Yaetuan are "too human" is a flawed argument. It doesn't matter what the author does, because the author is human and we are human, we are going to find the patterns that make the aliens "human".
I think convergent evolution and various environmental and species physiology would factor in as to if they became a space faring civilization. Extreme temperatures, High gravity, certain gaseous atmospheres, etc…would pretty much force certain species to be planet bound.
A human author can make an inhuman alien species. Look at the biology of the Birrin, for example. They are *completely* foreign to us, they have their own unique facial expressions, and honestly, I feel like they’re just a far more well-written alien species.
@@Barabel22 agreed for sure
@@weston06.You have a point but so does he🤷♂️
Videos like these give me hope that there might be life out there among the stars.
Glad to see you again!! Missed me some Curious Archive!
in your past few videos ive felt a change in content, and im all for it!
I loved this video and it reminded me of The Children of Time book. The plot has humanity trying to spred out into the Galaxy, but thing go awry and they up lift spiders. It's a fascinating read.
I came here hoping to see this comment👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I've read that book twice.
I think there may be sequels but I'm hesitant to read them since I think they wrapped up everything in the best way possible.
So much talent on this channel!
I count at least 3 Bronze Age Collapse like event, 1 Fallout-esque fate, at least 3 Cyberpunk era and it ends with Star Trek/War-esque utopia. Stellar works
Realy cool, and thanks for using the old intro music, It brings me a lot of nostalgia
Meanwhile on Yaetuan youtube: The Human saga - Most detailed alien species in Sci-Fi?
Every time I get a new video from you on my feed, makes me day better , love from UK ❤️❤️
I hope someday
someone will do a project on what the Aliens in the movies would look like in terms of Science and Speculative Biology
how they would realistically evolve on their Earth-like planets
what their cultures and worldviews would have been like
how they would have made it to the Cosmic Era
and how difficult it would have been for humans to make contact with them
I am not going to lie, I legitimate fangirl-screamed internally when I saw the notification. Thank you for the upload.
thank you for making such a cool vid. I love speculative biology. and this just makes my fascination for the subject grow.
Now I want someone to create the history of the flash wars and the powers that played part in them lol this is so awesome
That space elevator is like 10x larger than it really needs to be. It's not uncommon for artists to not realize just how gargantuan our planets really are. Also, "megalithic" refers specifically to structures like stonehenge or big stone structures, and not "megastructures"
Something I love about this saga is how fleshed out everything is.
Too often in sci-fi a lot of key details, such as the history of an alien species or their culture, or even the planet they live on, aren't explored much.
Seriously this would be an amazing documentary series.
There's already a documentary about it. It's called human history. Nothing about this is original.
You should narrate some speculative biology books. You've got a great voice!
Ah it’s good to see this franchise again
yooo new upload
And a good one
I'm very glad to see another speculative evolution video on this channel!
8:40 Looks like they're partially inspired by the Opabinia and the Ocean Flish respectively.
Dang, this guy managed to do good on making an alien race as detailed as he did. Great work to Christian Cline.
Humanity must learn from The Yaetuan's History And Examples, We MUST LEARN From They're Mistakes and Accomplishments In Order for They're Mistakes Doesn't Happen To Us
In my opinion a hexapod with an internal skeleton (as opposed to arthropods) would soon lose one of the pairs of limbs. They just get in the way more than they are useful. May be that pair takes on a vestigial, supplemental role for manipulation or grasping, but even for strong gripping making one of two pairs bimodal (locomotion/gripping) is more efficient because otherwise you end up with another pair of beefy limbs getting in the way all the time. It's probably worse once you try climbing and swinging through trees...
more efficient but less stable
but yeah unless you're megafauna or suspensorial centaurism makes more sense
I don know i mean if you look at all of insects, i cant really find a single one that lost a pair of limbs (excluding those that just lose all of them as a result of what tends to happen when being a hyperspecilised parasite). If a pair of limbs are in the way, then just move them farther apart from one another, spiders even use them in order to do delicate maneuvers with their webs while having 8 legs (corse they don't really have traditional fingers, but the legs do not ever get in the way with one another)
Well you’re in luck since these animals appear to have joint structures more like that of arthropods with backwards facing hindlimbs shaped like those of crickets and forelimbs pointing forwards
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 That's not what arthropod or exosceleton means. The way they are drawn it looks indeed as if their hindlegs are on the way out. Imagine them trying to run fast. They'd probably balance on their middle leg pair and become bipedal. They already have that awkward slant to balance their weight over the middle.
@@yjlom standing on two legs is plenty stable due to the computational power in the brain. Dinosaurs evolved it, maybe multiple times, including eventually birds. Some reptile species show bipedal motion occasionally. Mammals evolved it multiple times (marsupials, primates, gerbils...).
Nice world building, but it shares the problem I have with many of those alien evolution fantasies; the aliens are basically just weird looking humans, in this case with a couple of extra limbs and a beak.
You might be interested in Jay Eaton's Runaway to the Stars then - she has aliens that are akin to bugs and moles, but yet have created their own civilizations and interacts with humans.
@waitwot Thanks for the suggestion, Ididn't know that writer, I will look it up.
I think slime molds would be a fun thought experiment. No bones, no central brain, yet they can manipulate their environment, learn, grow and reproduce.
@@vickiephelps5169 I wonder if that could mean that an entire planet could be alive. A living sheath surrounding a core of rock.
So cool to hear the authors voice!
Christian is so insanely talented
Commenting for view engagement. Always enjoy your work.
I'm having a shitty day so definetly gonna watch this.
Love your vids, keep up the great work
i have a formation in classical latin and was like "why is their name yaetuan, it's not like we're human because we come from the planet Hum" then remembered the hum in human does, in fact, mean Earth, as in humus.
amazing video as always
Wow! Amazing Vid! I Want More Vids Like You!
I love the Speculative Anthropology of this project 😍 ❤️ 💕
Yay a video!
Already bought this book, along side the teeming universe. Didn’t disappoint.
"srub your beak with our brand new beak paste .now with 30% more paste!"
The way their technology converges with ours in the ways that make sense really make me resonate with this story
Christian Cline is a really cool guy, even besides his spec bio art
To be fair, I think the reason why the Yaetuans are so well described is because it's just human evolution and history applied to some "Aliens". Take any of the pictures in the video and replace them with humans and you just have a regular sci-fi story. I think it would be a lot more interesting if the "Aliens" would be more than just humans with additional 4 feet and a beak. They have hands, use the same huts as humans did, did farming with something that very much looks like wheat, have the same tools as we, they also use skyscrapers and they even have their version of the golden gate bridge and roman architecture.
Detailed? Maybe yes. Original and interesting? Not at all. Whoever invented them could have given them a completely different biology, other senses, different history, but didn't.
Was thinking the same thing. I feel like Adrian Tchaikovsky did a better job with speculative sci-fi in Children of time ; his aliens are deliberately non anthropomorphic.
I am reminded of spore: tribal stage
Kinda depends on how much stock you place in convergent evolution. It could easily be the case that due to finding similar solutions to similar problems that most alien species are not too different from us with the more "alien" ones being outliers.
Biological evolution is limited to the laws of physics. We already established that carbon-based life generally can only emerge and prosper on an Earth-like planet with similar properties(proximity to star, climate and atmosphere, size and gravity etc). Physics are (mostly) constant and consistent around the universe with the exception of certain phenomenon and quantum physics, and biology is restricted to these physics so it's safe to say that an intelligent life on an Terran planet would evolve and develop similarly to humans. They would solve the same issues as humans as their brains expand and potentially come into conflict with each other also similarly to humans. Aliens are not gonna look alien for the sake of being alien.
Humans evolved large brains and great intelligence in order to keep up with our complex social groups and environment. We've always been a social species, and we may have developed our intelligence in part to maintain those relationships and function successfully in these environments. This to me seems more plausible for an alien civilization than the alien aliens(speaking of intelligent extraterrestrial civilizations not alian lifeforms).
humans wouldn't be able to understand something too different from earth history
but yes, it could be more different
This, Birdbugs, and Birrins are my favorites
I have waited a long time for this
While a little cliche with basically just following earth history (past and potential future), seeing it from this vantage point really gives you a different perspective.
That "Postwar Poster" is the most amazing thing I've seen this year.
Incredible!! ☺️😊😄😃❤️❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏
At 0:14 that extraterrestrial creature suspiciously looks like a starfish.
They look like goobers im adopting them
this is the type of stuff i need to keep sane
I've been playing Deep Rock Galactic and would love to see you do a video on Hoxxes IV.
Nice! Can't wait for part 2 where they meet the Qu.
It's very cool!
Thanks to Christian Cline and thanks to Curious Archive.
I like the art and how it's based in reality and science.
However I was kinda disappointed it's so strongly based off of human history and I feel like some creative opportunities were missed.
But I've seen some other comments here that are happy with this and I can see where they're coming from.
Finaly a new upload
Oh, yeah, finally! Good old speculative biology! Horror was a fresh air for a while but at that point I missed that vibe
Mr. Cline's illustrations are gorgeous.
12:23 It's basically alien Fallout.
Another wonderful world within the SpecEvo community! Love seeing a species triumph after facing so many near extinction events.
you know what, i really want to try making a book on it now
I've been waiting for this video style that you stopped using a few months ago , am happi
I really love speculative biology. It really shows what possible life can be and how far it can go
I am glad you are doing this again keep it up. After you get done with this one can you do the the eternal cylinder
As someone who identifies as a Yaetuan, this is very accurate.
would you be willing to share some technological advancements to us? like perhaps a solution to my planet's ecological problems?
@@C-Farsene_5, your planet has no ecological problem. It’ll heal itself given time, that’s how tenacious life is once it establishes itself.
The problems are yours, your kind does not want to go extinct, your kind does not want to live without the biological diversity its used to. Niches will be filled when vacated by the extinct, don’t worry.
Everything is a source of energy, even the pollution you despise will one day be food for the creature who take advantage of the free energy no other lineage can breakdown.
i think humans are more technologically advanced in these worlds and older species
@@propandagaming66 your name checks out 👍
What’s your opinion on Daralot?
Curious Archive is the GOAT