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Take a trip down to steamy New Orleans with us as we enjoy the lurid bit of southern gothic known as Suddenly Last Summer. Mind the turtles.
In Seen It, we tackle the 80s Cable Round-up: weapons that are lethal, leagues that are major and freeways of the honky tonk variety.
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"Have we seen a Southern Gothic before?" Yes. Yes you have. I would posit that Tough Guys Don't Dance was Norman Mailer's failed attempt at doing a Tennessee Williams type scenario. Even though it was set in Massachusetts. So I guess a Northern Gothic.
A tip: watch movies at Flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Anders Zion Yup, have been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)
Matt and Craig cracked the secret kid communication network. Code Red, shut it down.
I was just thinking about Tennessee Williams and cannibalism.
Rest in paradise, Eddie Money.
Contrary to the tuff guy act he puts on, John Wayne is basically a wilting southern bell. He practically feints at even the slightest bit of moderately subversive material.
It's getting to be re-goddam-diculous.
Like Agolf Twitler, and most Cancervatives, Wayne was projecting self loathing for harbouring the exact "problems" seen in those they attack. IE: John, covertly, played for the same team.
he was a damn good actor then wasn't he
@@jellyacc he can definitely play two whole characters
legend has it that john wayne when he was marion used to rent out his body to homosexuals as did clark gable.
12:40-12:52 cracks me up! Craig doesn't even notice what's going on!
🤣🤣🤣
Before I even watch the rest of this video, I have to say, this is one of my favorite openings of this show. You guys rock.
Montgomery Clift had a small role in Judgment at Nuremberg (1961).Best four minutes ever filmed,trully one of the best actors ever.Have you seen it?
0:59 You are exactly right, Craig! There has been some research to this and I think it's called 'Kid's Culture'. It are specific things like the floor is lava, or playing tag. No adult teaches you these things, and that's very important, these things are all passed on children to other children. It's really fascinating!
According to my research Matt pretty much nailed it with his theory on the Batman parody origin. It sounds like the parody started gaining traction in the mid-60s when the Adam West Batman show started and military kids spread it around. During the Vietnam war, the military was twice as large as it is today so there were plenty of kids moving from school to school spreading the song like a memetic virus.
Have you guys seen the 1968 The Lion in Winter? It’s my favorite Katherine Hepburn performance. It’s full of star power acting and Kate blows everyone off the screen. She’s just insanely good.
"I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the children."
Never forgot that one lol
The rhymes and songs and games we learned as kids (other than the classic fairy tales and ring around the rosey stuff) are part of what was originally coined as “memes”. Cultural knowledge passed on without any formal mechanism in place. Richard Dawkins spelled out the idea and coined the term in the early 70’s, I think.
There's actually a word for what you guys are describing at the start of the episode: meme. Yes, memes are more than just funny internet images. It is actually a psychology term relating to ideas that spread like this.
And, according to Jason Stephens, that word is pronounced “may-may”.
I can’t put my finger on it, but 5:56 was my favorite part of the whole episode. So quaint and nice
I remember catching this movie on TV once when I was a kid, it absolutely horrified me! Silly as it may seem now watching it as an adult, the mere idea of the plot was so grotesque to me as a kid it would keep me awake some nights. I remembered the plot all these years but never knew the title until this episode. I don’t think this movie is as horrifying as I remembered it all this time, thanks for helping me laugh my way through some childhood movie trauma guys! 😆
5:56 can i just say how much I loved that coffee scene?
I was born and raised in Wales and can confirm, every child in the world knows the "Batman smells" song. Think it's just hardwired into our collective DNA
It feels like you guys didn't discuss the actual movie very much this time around. For example, you seemed to just accept the literal translation of "They had devoured him!" instead of considering that Sebastian was simply killed and robbed by the youths who had grown so accustomed to his being a source of money, or even deliberately murdered by them as revenge for his repeated (assumed) sexual assault on them.
Further, I'm surprised neither of you even brought up the subject of why Sebastian suddenly (last summer) took Cathy with him on his regular holiday instead of his mother Violet. Could it have been that Violet's milkshake was no longer bringing the boys to the yard, so to speak? So he took Cathy instead to act as better "bait"?
Totally. From memory there's even a shot when Cathy is telling the story of Sebastian being chased, where the camera pans past a skeleton in a dress and veil sitting on a bench, and then the film cuts back to this shot and its actually just an old lady sitting on a bench as Sebastian runs past. I thought this was the moment when it became obvious that Cathy wasn't telling a literal story of cannibalism but rather the story was metaphorical and was her madness trying to communicate something she felt she couldn't talk of.
Surprised twist ending with teen cannibals? The Hell?!?!
3:49 Orson Welles once referred to Merceded McCambridge as the "world's greatest radio actress".
To see her in all her glory, check out Johnny Guitar, with Sterling Hayden and Joan Crawford!
Elizabeth Taylor❤️
Monty Clift and Katherine
Hepburn were ALL so, so
Excellent in their roles👍
I adore your show.
I had not heard of the Umbrellas of Cherbourg until Go Fact Yourself last week.
Another entry in the Matt Sloan Catalog of Children's Folk Rhymes.
Seen it: possession, from 1981?
That would be perfect for the show and possibly the return of the Putney Swope Panic.
The genitalia variation: "He's Popeye the Sailor Man. He lives in a garbage can. He turned up his heater, he blew off his peter, he's Popeye the Sailor Man!" (One I heard growing up).
love the cold open, I too have thought about that
Omg I remember the "he liked to go swimming with bald headed women"
As a child going to primary school in the UK during the 90s (elementary school equivalent) the Popeye rhyme I knew was as follows:
"He's Popeye the sailor man,
He lives in a caravan,
When he goes swimmin',
He chases all the women,
He's Popeye the sailor man!"
This was also pre internet. Amazing how weird children's rhymes travel.
Australian kid here. We sang Jingle Bells Batman smells. But the Popeye song we knew went "He swallows the worms and spits out the germs".
I don't know why I was expecting a wisecrack as Craig poured Matt a drink.
@12:43 LOL Matt, youre so cray cray! lol
My family also calls pizza delivery guys pizza dudes because of this movie.
I'm SO glad you mentioned the song. The moment you announced the movie on Facebook, that song kept running through my head on a loop, and purely by coincidence, on TV the other night, I found it was also the song they're using for the trailer for the new season of American Horror Story. Can't get away from it, man!
I've been rewatching WTTB and came back to this exactly a year after it was uploaded! Fun little coincidence. I don't remember a thing about this video so it'll be like watching it for the first time again.
Why didn't Eisenhower warn us about the military-fairytale complex?
Thank you for this episode I've been wanting to see this Movie for a long time.
Craig; You made me spit out my drink! 8:45 Thank you guys so much for what you do. Keep up the Great work.
I grew up with "I'm Popeye the sailor man, I live in a garbage can. I eat all the trash and think it's a smashi. I'm Popeye the sailor man. (Toot toot)"
Ah, my week is complete!
well the end of this movie was an unusual twist.
I think this is the fastest I've liked a video of yours! Military kids be damned!! 😂
Liz was his sugar refill so he could maintain his Dr. Sugar
The Unbrellas of Cherbourg is such a great soundtrack. But probably my favorite from Michel Legrand is another Jacques Demy - Catherine Deneuve film: The Young Girls of Rochefort. Have you seen it?
Hi! I'm a little older than you guys, but we definitely had the Batman and Popeye takes. Popular Western "Branded" theme, we sang "Stranded! Stranded on the toilet bowl. What do you do when you're stranded, and you don't have a roll? To prove you're a man, you must wipe it with your hand--But beware, of your hand!"
This is so true, my daughter is 11 and sang Jingle Bells, Batman smells. She learnt it from other kids. 30 years after I first heard it. It amazes me.
Major League is my favorite baseball movie
Great show :)
That part around 8:46 broke my funny bone and I couldn’t stop laughing.
I love it
This is one of my favorite movies! I was introduced to it by an elder gay man, as a lot of people are.
When I was a little kid, I got the first issue of a magazine called Starlog. Along with a complete episode guide of the original Twilight Zone, it had in it a limerick I’ve never forgotten:
There once was a woman bionic,
Whose story is rather ironic,
When her counterpart kissed her,
She blew a transistor,
Now relations are strictly platonic.
My dirty kid mind immediately morphed it into this:
There once was a woman bionic,
Whose story is rather ironic,
When her counterpart fucked her,
She blew a conductor,
Now relations are strictly platonic.
Kids like dirty and/or silly rhymes.
Is there any movie location less healthy than a solarium? I think of General Sternwood and his orchids in "The Big Sleep"---"Their flesh is too much like the flesh of men; their
perfume has a rotten sweetness of corruption."
I think summer camps can also be responsible for spreading those songs.
Love The Burbs. Also in the brilliant cast: Carrie Fisher, Matt Frewer (Max Headroom) and pre-loony Cory Feldman
Me too! My brother and I watched it together when we were teenagers and still quote it from time to time "I'm gonna kill everyone, Satan is great, Satan is our pal." "It's Walter, he's back, he's back" "that kid next door is a meatball" And you gotta love Mr. Rumsfield in full camo gear up on his roof eating animal crackers. I think Bruce Dern is fabulous in the movie.
Just a quick correction, Matt Frewer was not in The 'Burbs. I believe you may be mixing him up with Bruce Dern, who does look quite Matt Frewer-y as Rumsfield.
That strange S that used to be drawn on everything, there's a video about how it can be traced back over a hundred years (although it became really popular in the late 60s I think when it was used as a graffiti S). Really interesting how this stuff just spreads and lives on sometimes.
The Motels had four top 40 hits: "Only The Lonely" (hit #9 in '82), "Suddenly Last Summer" (hit #9 in '83), "Remember The Nights (hit #36 in '83) and "Shame" (hit #21 in '85.)
Most of us who grew up with MTV also know "Take The L" which got tons of video play in the day...but only hit #52 in '82 (as the follow up to "Only the Lonely".) Video linked below.
Just saw The Motels here in Seattle (at the Woodland Park Zoo) as part of the Lost 80's Live tour (along with A Flock of Seagulls, Wang Chung, The Vapors, The Escape Club, Real Life, Boys Don't Cry and the two singers from When In Rome.) Martha Davis was in fine voice...and they did "Take The L", "Suddenly Last Summer" and "Only The Lonely."
...and you're right, Matt...they all sort of sound the same. ;)
ruclips.net/video/Ooi8Cnb1fx0/видео.html
I remember playing "Shame" on the radio when I was a DJ in college. (Was still in high school for the other stuff.)
Popeye turned on the switches, and burned up his britches.
You guys didn’t mention this, but what did you think of Elizabeth Taylor? I know Craig isn’t a fan, but she seemed quite good from the clips you showed. Plus, seeing her that young is just bizarre.
12:43-12:52 is my new favorite thing
Ours had "...he eats all the worms and spits out the germs..."
Hepburn is misspelled as Heppburn on the DVD cover.
17:59 I would say there are parts of Tough Guys Don’t Dance that qualify as Southern Gothic.
Some of Sam Spiegel 's films are credited to Sam P. Eagle.
So wait, was he really eaten by boys? Like literally? Hm.
cannibalism is not that uncommon in poor countries
I heard it as, Popeye the Sailor Man. He lives in a garbage can. He eats all the worms, and spits out the germs. He's Popeye the Sailor Man.
I JUST noticed something on Here that I didn't notice when watching the movie. The skeleton statue in the memory up the hill at 14:31 is the same statue the mother has in her garden in the beginning of the movie!! How and WHY would she have that there? She herself never mentions having the nerve to have gone there after the murder happened to have seen it. It just "appeared" one day to keep watch of the grieving mother until it was her time to die. 😨
Nice Tom Waits reference
A common kid meme among girls in my area was the hand clap game "Miss Suzy" or "Miss Mary Mack". Miss Suzy had the naughty lyrics, though.
7:23 perfect editing
You fellas are likely too busy for it, but have you ever considered doing HoopTober?
13:18 lol
At 3:43, Hepburn is spelled wrong on the movie cover.
Is that Skylarking in the background?
Yes
I watch you for seven years Craig and this is how you repay me? By slagging off the finest architectural style there is.
I am deeply saddened.
Guys you should watch SLC PUNK
Loved that film!
Popeye The sailor Man. He lives in a garbage can. He eats all the worms and spits out the germs. He's popeye the sailor Man.
Guys have you seen " The Mouse that Roared" Peter Sellers is a comedy genius
Should have had Little Robbers.
Seen it: Coffy, 1973?
7:12 - Were those birds.... Loons? THE LOONS NORMAN!
Does this make the loons ironic, that she wants her niece to get a lobotomy?
So what was the Duke's objection - I don't get it?
He's Popeye the Sailor Man, he lives in a garbage can. He eats all the worms and spits out the germs, he's Popeye the Sailor Man.
5:14 Cookrovich? If it's Polish, then he should have pronounced it Tsu-kro-vich.
"Virate Venable."
What the hell holy mountain ending bullshit was that? Wtf!
Williams signed the papers for his sister's lobotomy. He loved her greatly. The doctors told him it would simply cure her. She became nothing. He blamed himself.
Have you seen The Children's Hour? I thought that the movie was better than the play.
What's your opinion on the first film version of the play, These Three?
The themes are not as explicit, but I still prefer it to the latter version.
@@francescafay9452 I have yet to see These Three. I think Wyler liked his later version and sort of forgot to mention the early version. Matt have you seen either version? The rewrite to be about an affair makes me think I won't like it as much. What I like about the newer movie is that Shirley Maclaine's character hears that everything is going to be all right, then commits suicide anyway because it's too late. The rumors have made her question her identity too much. In the play she does it before she hears that the lawsuit is dropped. It has much less impact that way. Think of how Hedda Gabbler gets manic and then commits suicide. The lack of motive inspires more thought in the audience.
A Montgomery Clift movie and no "Clash - London's Calling" in the background?! What is this amateur hour? ;-)
R.I.P. Eddie Money
Matt, hear about Eddie Money?
I bet he has and is all torn up about it. Watch the "Rage of Sloan" go.
I'm Popeye the sailor man
I live in a garbage can
I eat all the worms
And spit out the germs
I'm Popeye the sailor man
You’re still around??? Wow!
Wiener variation 👍
the dark guy is ugly maybe its just his teeth but in a strange way he is handsome.. maybe his gums will grow in maybe not. i guess he is described as a strange beauty an odd diamond
I’d like to know what you guys think of Rebel Wilson. I’ve seen her in a few movies and commercials and there is something about her that I just do Not like. I don’t find her funny even though it seems that she tries, but I cannot for the life of me understand why she’s famous for being a sub par comedic actress
Your disdain for brutalist architecture wounds me!
You need to turn yourselves down and the movie up.