Ich wünsche den Leuten alles Gute und dass sie die gezwungene Umsiedlung trotz Allem gut überstanden haben. Ich wohne nicht im Gebiet, aber mir tut so was weh, vor allem, dass ich nicht helfen kann. Selbst wenn ich Ökostrom beziehe, wer garantiert mir dass wirklich Ökostrom aus der Leitung kommt ? Leben ohne Strom geht fast nicht. Heimat und Zusammenhalt geht verloren. Die alten Bäume, der fruchtbare Acker kommen nicht wieder. So traurig. Ich bin im Juni 2020 nach Keyenberg, Ober-und Unterwestrich, Kuckum Beverath gefahren. So bedrückend. So schöne Häuser fallen dem Braunkohleabbau zum Opfer. Obendrein habe ich das alles zu spät erfahren, so dass ich gerade noch die 5 Dörfer betrachten konnte. Der Menschen Arbeit so niedergemacht und kein Gesetz der Welt kann helfen. Mich würde interessieren wie viele Häuser in Garzweiler und dem ganzen Braunkohleabbau in NRW zum Opfer insgesamt gefallen sind. Geld kann den emotionalen Wert nicht ersetzen. Generationen haben investiert und aufgebaut. Ich ließe mein Haus 1:1 wieder aufbauen. Die Orte werden nicht mehr 1:1 wieder aufgebaut, siehe Immerath-Neu (Dom), die neue Kirche sieht nicht mehr so schön aus. Habe Immerath nur aus den Videos gesehen, war aber bei meinem Besuch auch in Immerath-Neu, ist nicht mehr das Original. Ich musste das nun einfach Mal rauslassen. Leid und schade.
Die betreffenden Familien werden und wurden verhältnismäßig königlich Entlohnt. Natürlich ist der emotionale Wert nicht aufzurechnen. Aber finanziell konnte sich grundsätzlich niemand beschweren. ( Zumindest wenn es so lief wie in Steinstraß, welches 40 Jahre zuvor schon unweit weichen musste.)
Anfang der 1950er wußte man schon das das Dorf weg kommt?Warum hat man den nicht eher Lucherberg aufgebaut statt Pier?Lucherberg steht heute noch und ist jetzt mit dem Neubaugebiet bei 5.000 Einwohner.Fehler in der Vergangenheit hat man hier gemacht.
This is a very emotional TV-item about a village (Pier) and a generations old pub which had to disappear to make space for a coal-mine 0:04 Pier, near Düren, a ghostthown in Rhineland. The people have to move because of the coal-dredging. Since 15 years the community - which once had 1.800 people - decays in three other villages where people moved. Shops. societies, pubs. All closed. All except one, at the end of the Hauptstrasse (main street); 'Das Rosarius'. 0:27 Here, the 80-year-old-owners, defy the dredging machines of RWE. 0:32 "We used to be open every day, but nowadays it is no longer profitable. But we got so used to that, it's not easy to change this". 0:51 Mostly, they're all alone at their pub, only a few customers come across. However, they want to continue as long it's possible. The pub is A.'s life. 0:59 "''I've been here always since I'm 16-years old. 1:06 "I liked to do this very much". 1:13 "And now, everything is coming to an end". 1:16 "We've already turned 80-years old, and at this age, you don't built and start another pub elsewere. When our children don't want to take-over our business". 1:28 They like to wallow through memories. The Rosarius Pub exists since the 1950's. After WW-II, A.'s grandparents opened this pub in Pier. Later her parents took-over, and now A., their daughter, runs the pub since her 16th. 1:46 "Since my 16th it was my business: we got visited by the soccer-club, carnival-associations, everything there was, came here." 2:01 Also some celebrities pay a visit to Rosarius' pub. 2:05 "Tony Marshall, perfomed here. As well as Heino [???]. And also Roland Kaiser, came here". 2:28 Good-old-times which unfortunately belong tot he past now. They raised three sons, but they won't take-over this pub without a future [the village was demolished in 2013/2014 in favor of the nearby brown-coal-mine 'Inden II']. 2:36 In two years at latest [2012/2013], it's done. 2:39 "This, what I have to leave behind, it's so hard for me". 2:47 Only once a week, the pub is coming to life. Every Thursday, the men''s-singing-choir comes to the pub. 3:00 For some time they split-up and live in three separate villages. This is the last club/association in Pier. And when 'die Kneipe' [the pub/café] no longer exists, their future is also uncertain. 3:12 "For me, a peace of homeland is lost. A big peace of homeland. I've turned to this choir since I've been 16. For me it is a sad thing". 3:25 "This place/community is down, that's clear. But also these separate assocations have diffiuculty to exist". 3:32 "I drank my first local beer [Pierer bier] here 50 years ago. So it's very emotional, the fact that we have to leave behind all good old friendships and the known people". 3:46 But, they all knew for 60 years that one day they all have to leave and relocate [because of the expansion of the - by then, smaller - coal mine] 3:53 "We knew this from 1952, but we couldn't really believed it. We simply couldn't believe it". 4:04 Really believe, they still can not. And luckily, there is this Thursday evening. 4:11 "Yes, you're confronted againt with the fact that the coal-mine is coming closer, and you really have to deal with something". 4:28 "With these nice people around you and the singing, you still live, and stick around with them. Then everything is OK". 4:40 Untill 2012 they want to keep running their 'Kneipe' [pub], and then finally they also must move for the coal-dredgers. But when the booth is full - like today -, the end seems still far away... I hope my translation from German to English is correct and you still read it even my answer is 10 years later. Regards from Holland. P.S.: These coal mines are very polluting and a small township, called Lützerath, made international news because of many protests [in 2022/2023] because it is also digging away [even it was occupied by activists for two years].
Ganz schlimm, da wird man sentimental wenn man sowas sieht. Ich kenne die Ortschaften noch als Jugendlicher. 😪
Meine Familie hat dort ihre ganzen Feste gefeiert..
Ich wünsche den Leuten alles Gute und dass sie die gezwungene Umsiedlung trotz Allem gut überstanden haben. Ich wohne nicht im Gebiet, aber mir tut so was weh, vor allem, dass ich nicht helfen kann. Selbst wenn ich Ökostrom beziehe, wer garantiert mir dass wirklich Ökostrom aus der Leitung kommt ? Leben ohne Strom geht fast nicht. Heimat und Zusammenhalt geht verloren. Die alten Bäume, der fruchtbare Acker kommen nicht wieder. So traurig. Ich bin im Juni 2020 nach Keyenberg, Ober-und Unterwestrich, Kuckum Beverath gefahren. So bedrückend. So schöne Häuser fallen dem Braunkohleabbau zum Opfer. Obendrein habe ich das alles zu spät erfahren, so dass ich gerade noch die 5 Dörfer betrachten konnte. Der Menschen Arbeit so niedergemacht und kein Gesetz der Welt kann helfen. Mich würde interessieren wie viele Häuser in Garzweiler und dem ganzen Braunkohleabbau in NRW zum Opfer insgesamt gefallen sind. Geld kann den emotionalen Wert nicht ersetzen. Generationen haben investiert und aufgebaut. Ich ließe mein Haus 1:1 wieder aufbauen. Die Orte werden nicht mehr 1:1 wieder aufgebaut, siehe Immerath-Neu (Dom), die neue Kirche sieht nicht mehr so schön aus. Habe Immerath nur aus den Videos gesehen, war aber bei meinem Besuch auch in Immerath-Neu, ist nicht mehr das Original.
Ich musste das nun einfach Mal rauslassen. Leid und schade.
Frau Rosarius ist vor ein paar Jahren gestorben, der Mann lebt noch.
Danke. Ich wünschen den betroffenen Menschen alles Gute.
Dass es überhaupt möglich ist, ganze Dörfer zu schlucken. Geht wahrscheinlich in Richtung Enteignung (kenne mich nicht aus).
Ja, hat mit dem Bergbaurecht zu tun: Die Kohleförderung soll dem Allgemeinwohl dienen, ein Recht auf Heimat gibt es nicht.
Die betreffenden Familien werden und wurden verhältnismäßig königlich Entlohnt.
Natürlich ist der emotionale Wert nicht aufzurechnen. Aber finanziell konnte sich grundsätzlich niemand beschweren.
( Zumindest wenn es so lief wie in Steinstraß, welches 40 Jahre zuvor schon unweit weichen musste.)
Anfang der 1950er wußte man schon das das Dorf weg kommt?Warum hat man den nicht eher Lucherberg aufgebaut statt Pier?Lucherberg steht heute noch und ist jetzt mit dem Neubaugebiet bei 5.000 Einwohner.Fehler in der Vergangenheit hat man hier gemacht.
Ähmmm... das Video ist genauso alt wie ich😢😮
I wish I could understand what is being said!
This is a very emotional TV-item about a village (Pier) and a generations old pub which had to disappear to make space for a coal-mine
0:04 Pier, near Düren, a ghostthown in Rhineland. The people have to move because of the coal-dredging. Since 15 years the community - which once had 1.800 people - decays in three other villages where people moved.
Shops. societies, pubs. All closed. All except one, at the end of the Hauptstrasse (main street); 'Das Rosarius'.
0:27 Here, the 80-year-old-owners, defy the dredging machines of RWE.
0:32 "We used to be open every day, but nowadays it is no longer profitable. But we got so used to that, it's not easy to change this".
0:51 Mostly, they're all alone at their pub, only a few customers come across. However, they want to continue as long it's possible. The pub is A.'s life.
0:59 "''I've been here always since I'm 16-years old.
1:06 "I liked to do this very much".
1:13 "And now, everything is coming to an end".
1:16 "We've already turned 80-years old, and at this age, you don't built and start another pub elsewere. When our children don't want to take-over our business".
1:28 They like to wallow through memories. The Rosarius Pub exists since the 1950's. After WW-II, A.'s grandparents opened this pub in Pier. Later her parents took-over, and now A., their daughter, runs the pub since her 16th.
1:46 "Since my 16th it was my business: we got visited by the soccer-club, carnival-associations, everything there was, came here."
2:01 Also some celebrities pay a visit to Rosarius' pub. 2:05 "Tony Marshall, perfomed here. As well as Heino [???]. And also Roland Kaiser, came here".
2:28 Good-old-times which unfortunately belong tot he past now. They raised three sons, but they won't take-over this pub without a future [the village was demolished in 2013/2014 in favor of the nearby brown-coal-mine 'Inden II'].
2:36 In two years at latest [2012/2013], it's done.
2:39 "This, what I have to leave behind, it's so hard for me".
2:47 Only once a week, the pub is coming to life. Every Thursday, the men''s-singing-choir comes to the pub.
3:00 For some time they split-up and live in three separate villages. This is the last club/association in Pier. And when 'die Kneipe' [the pub/café] no longer exists, their future is also uncertain.
3:12 "For me, a peace of homeland is lost. A big peace of homeland. I've turned to this choir since I've been 16. For me it is a sad thing".
3:25 "This place/community is down, that's clear. But also these separate assocations have diffiuculty to exist".
3:32 "I drank my first local beer [Pierer bier] here 50 years ago. So it's very emotional, the fact that we have to leave behind all good old friendships and the known people".
3:46 But, they all knew for 60 years that one day they all have to leave and relocate [because of the expansion of the - by then, smaller - coal mine]
3:53 "We knew this from 1952, but we couldn't really believed it. We simply couldn't believe it".
4:04 Really believe, they still can not. And luckily, there is this Thursday evening.
4:11 "Yes, you're confronted againt with the fact that the coal-mine is coming closer, and you really have to deal with something".
4:28 "With these nice people around you and the singing, you still live, and stick around with them. Then everything is OK".
4:40 Untill 2012 they want to keep running their 'Kneipe' [pub], and then finally they also must move for the coal-dredgers. But when the booth is full - like today -, the end seems still far away...
I hope my translation from German to English is correct and you still read it even my answer is 10 years later. Regards from Holland.
P.S.: These coal mines are very polluting and a small township, called Lützerath, made international news because of many protests [in 2022/2023] because it is also digging away [even it was occupied by activists for two years].
Hach meine Geburtstädte Pier
Küppers jrön :)
Herrlich !!!