Not a foolish mistake. How could you have spotted this issue when buying this engine? Other than putting it on a run stand and running it like what was just done there is no way of knowing. We but old stuff and roll the dice. At the very least there’s a good crank and pistons that could go in another block or perhaps Iron Trap needs a vintage dragster to take to nostalgia races?
Morning Mike, Matt & Stromberg Steve..that really sucks Mike!! Is there any way you can pressure test your blocks before assembly? Mike, I don't understand why you think this was a mistake on your part?
When all is said and done and mistakes are made and battles won . You three men make a great team !! Thank God for good friends and mechanics like Steve , Matt and Mike !! Excellent video !
Rick you hit the nail on the head the way Matt, Mike and Steve interact is a blessing!! I think that's why I love watching, the real life skills friendship and joking around. I really enjoyed Mike pulling his kids into the clip. That's what it's all about friends, family and hot rodding ❤❤❤
Don't think you were foolish Mike. How would you have known about the crack with out running the engine with no exhaust hooked up. Just one of those things that could happen when buying old stuff.
Sometimes what look good may not be so good. Life lessons on buying used and being more thorough. Not a rookie mistake, but more awareness and extra checks. Another example of water cracks on a flathead. Great catch Matt/Steve. Engine test stand came through. Quickly highlighted a major issue. Lucky for the available engine replacement.
Since the right water pump is adjacent to the exhaust passage, could you access the crack by drilling the back of the pump with a hole saw, repairing the crack and re welding the back of the pump? I have some 98% nickel welding rod which is designed for repairing cast iron and which works great with no preheating required. It would make this type of repair feasible.
Very cool🤙I just acquired a 41 ford pickup that has a "fresh" 24 stud in it that's never been fired. The truck is partially restored and in a barn. I'll be pulling it out shortly. I have a couple more things to finish up around here. I'm making space haven't put any content up later but I've been acquiring cars and parts I have 7 cars to bring back to the stable.
There is a company that can fix them. They draw a high vacuum and inject a special loctite into it and it fills the cracks.We had a hemi that was a sprinkler system.When it had been done it was water tight.
Great video you show the successful runs and the failures ,That’s just how it goes luckily you have the parts to move forward . This won’t be the last bump in the build ,Thanks again for showing the ups and downs
I have a 21 stud '36 Ford engine in my 36 Ford with a similar issue. It needs to be gone through, its been parked a few years now due to a blown head gasket and other misc issues. Might consider pulling it out and putting in a 24 stud engine.
I'm not so sure it was a mistake ---- Mike ------- there was no way you could tell --- that there was a crack up inside the exhaust port ----- and as we watch you guys start up these flatheads whenever one is put on the Run Stand ----- we are told --- The true test ---- is to let it run for approximately twenty minutes or so to ----- SEE IF IT DOES LEAK -----it's not a mistake ----- it's a gamble ---- that it is a GOOD engine ------------- Thank you guys for a Good Video ---------- Rodney
Interesting and informative video. Lots of nice work, too bad about the disappointment. Had you all considered hydro pressure testing blocks before investing in assembly? I have done a number of smaller engines, 4-cylinder tractor engines. I too "learned the hard way". Hydro testing is simple, takes a not to expensive hand pump and a few others bits n pieces. Since I started doing it on blocks after machining and before assembly I'm not so nervous anymore. You could do it before investing in machining too.
You can’t win them all, you guys have had a lot of great luck with these motors, you’re gonna hit a bad one now and again, I’m glad that you were able to find another one to go with
Nice to see you guys at the Monroe Swap Meet. Hope the spiciness of State Route 99/Aurora Ave N added a bit of unexpected cultural under belly of Seattle to your trip.
Good running engines, you pays your money you take a chance, ex WW2 V8s were entertaining to dismantle and find one OS piston or undersize bigend only enough to make em go was done the next install could get blown to bits by artillery anyway
Another possible use for Mikes leaky engine would be in a boat with raw water cooling. You'd have a continuous supply of water and it gets sent out the exhaust anyhow.
Not totally foolish you now have experience building a flat head. And you tested it before install. Te foolish thing would be having it installed and then find out it's bad.
Unless you pressure-tested the cooling system (hard to do with the motor out of the car and sitting on the floor) there's almost no way you could have known the first motor had a cracked block
As this has happened twice now is it not possible to make something up to first just put water in the blocks and pressurise the water to check for these cracks before doing time consuming and maybe costly work to the engines.
Mike , it wasn't a foolish mistake you took the person's word at it was a good engine ! Anyone can take a person's word on anything but end up not working out right !
Have to make the mistake to learn this lesson. I did. So glad to see you have a motor for the roadster. I really like to see this one coming together. Steve I hope you have your eye on a hot rod project.
I would not call this a "foolish mistake " without handheld pressure testing or X-ray vision. Your old motor would be perfect for vintage hydroplane racers. Central California watching
Years ago I had a cracked hipo 289 head. None of the welding shops would touch it. My Dad found a shop that repaired heavy equipment and they were able to repair it. I think it was called furnace brazing. Might want to look into that as an option to repair the block. Good luck 🍀
I know how you feel Mike, my “running when pulled” flathead has a lifter with the bottom knocked out and a cam with one very worn lobe. It may have run, but it didn’t run well…
There are thermostats for these engines. They drop in the hose outlets on the heads. If you can't find those, you can use standard-size modern thermostats and grind off the flanges, and put them in the upper hoses and secure them in place with hose clamps.
Mike this was not a "foolish mistake". You pay your money and take your chances. Such is life.
Just like marriage
Yes, all part of the game I am afraid. You cannot win every time.
Only if you have a leaky wife!
Yeah, I don't get it. Why is this labeled "Mike's Mistake?" Schidt happens.
Great to have a helper like Nate when messing with an engine block! Way to go, Dad!
Who would have thought that it would have cracked in there? It's great to have a spare. Be seeing you soon, thanks guys for the video
Bars Leak Block seal , Rite on the run stand.
That’s hot roding , great video. Thanks!!!
Ha. 20:03 I was hoping for a 3 Stooges-esque cocoanut crack sound effect when y'all shot your heads down to look inside the engine. 😆
I still love the sound!!!
02:39 Your kiddo's are adorable.
It runs at least , its rebuildable
That fuel pump is like nails on a chalkboard
I thought Mike was going with a Buick Nailhead motor
Not a foolish mistake. How could you have spotted this issue when buying this engine? Other than putting it on a run stand and running it like what was just done there is no way of knowing.
We but old stuff and roll the dice. At the very least there’s a good crank and pistons that could go in another block or perhaps Iron Trap needs a vintage dragster to take to nostalgia races?
Sweet children. You are a rich man.
I'd trust it here in a home made doodle bug. Sad to see it happen like that.
Take that block and turn inro a coffee table for a man cave. Glass or wood top a little paint . Sell it as iron trap art.
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Morning Mike, Matt & Stromberg Steve..that really sucks Mike!! Is there any way you can pressure test your blocks before assembly?
Mike, I don't understand why you think this was a mistake on your part?
..cracked block..water injection!..
Wheres the lube on the cam u r installing
Typical flathead, 99.9% of them are cracked.
When all is said and done and mistakes are made and battles won . You three men make a great team !! Thank God for good friends and mechanics like Steve , Matt and Mike !! Excellent video !
Rick you hit the nail on the head the way Matt, Mike and Steve interact is a blessing!!
I think that's why I love watching, the real life skills friendship and joking around.
I really enjoyed Mike pulling his kids into the clip. That's what it's all about friends, family and hot rodding ❤❤❤
Don't think you were foolish Mike. How would you have known about the crack with out running the engine with no exhaust hooked up. Just one of those things that could happen when buying old stuff.
Poor Mike 😤 but lucky Mike for having great friends to help out 😂😂
Sometimes what look good may not be so good. Life lessons on buying used and being more thorough. Not a rookie mistake, but more awareness and extra checks. Another example of water cracks on a flathead. Great catch Matt/Steve. Engine test stand came through. Quickly highlighted a major issue. Lucky for the available engine replacement.
In the long run Mike's one step closer to driving the old one step back and two forward keep marching to Victory
Does Mike's dog ever get to visit Moon? Looking forward to that car getting its own engine fitted.
Congrats Mike a step further to getting your hot rod
Since the right water pump is adjacent to the exhaust passage, could you access the crack by drilling the back of the pump with a hole saw, repairing the crack and re welding the back of the pump? I have some 98% nickel welding rod which is designed for repairing cast iron and which works great with no preheating required. It would make this type of repair feasible.
sucks to have waited so long for that to happen but he got a way better engine. I would have thought Mike was a nailhead guy.
I believe I would have tried some Irontite ceramic seal before I gave up on that one.
Unless you have X-ray eyes mistakes can always be made, it's a lottery it's not "foolish".
Without bringing a run-stand to the purchase, how would you have known? Bummer, but definitely not your fault Mike.
Very cool🤙I just acquired a 41 ford pickup that has a "fresh" 24 stud in it that's never been fired. The truck is partially restored and in a barn. I'll be pulling it out shortly. I have a couple more things to finish up around here. I'm making space haven't put any content up later but I've been acquiring cars and parts I have 7 cars to bring back to the stable.
I would try boiler sealer in it. Take a chance .
Sorry for your loss Mike. (Great video though)
Hay Ho,.........great bunch of Mates, partners, and 'Know how'.
Can't wait to see this on the road.
* Flatties Forever !!! 👀. 🤘😎🤙
There is a company that can fix them. They draw a high vacuum and inject a special loctite into it and it fills the cracks.We had a hemi that was a sprinkler system.When it had been done it was water tight.
have you every used liquid glass in a cracked flat head to seal the cracks it work's real good
Great video you show the successful runs and the failures ,That’s just how it goes luckily you have the parts to move forward . This won’t be the last bump in the build ,Thanks again for showing the ups and downs
Sometimes we get overly excited about a find and miss important things. New engine from warehouse sounds great.
Put more "Steve" in all your videos, please.
Or make a "Steve Special", because we hardly know him.
Speedway Motors South ceramic coating block sealer works for awhile
That meant to say sales
Things occur beyond your control. Fortunately, you have resources.👍🏼
I have a 21 stud '36 Ford engine in my 36 Ford with a similar issue. It needs to be gone through, its been parked a few years now due to a blown head gasket and other misc issues. Might consider pulling it out and putting in a 24 stud engine.
I'm not so sure it was a mistake ---- Mike ------- there was no way you could tell --- that there was a crack up inside the exhaust port ----- and as we watch you guys start up these flatheads whenever one is put on the Run Stand ----- we are told --- The true test ---- is to let it run for approximately twenty minutes or so to ----- SEE IF IT DOES LEAK -----it's not a mistake ----- it's a gamble ---- that it is a GOOD engine ------------- Thank you guys for a Good Video ---------- Rodney
Interesting and informative video. Lots of nice work, too bad about the disappointment. Had you all considered hydro pressure testing blocks before investing in assembly? I have done a number of smaller engines, 4-cylinder tractor engines. I too "learned the hard way". Hydro testing is simple, takes a not to expensive hand pump and a few others bits n pieces. Since I started doing it on blocks after machining and before assembly I'm not so nervous anymore. You could do it before investing in machining too.
You can’t win them all, you guys have had a lot of great luck with these motors, you’re gonna hit a bad one now and again, I’m glad that you were able to find another one to go with
Nice to see you guys at the Monroe Swap Meet. Hope the spiciness of State Route 99/Aurora Ave N added a bit of unexpected cultural under belly of Seattle to your trip.
Good running engines, you pays your money you take a chance, ex WW2 V8s were entertaining to dismantle and find one OS piston or undersize bigend only enough to make em go was done the next install could get blown to bits by artillery anyway
Another possible use for Mikes leaky engine would be in a boat with raw water cooling. You'd have a continuous supply of water and it gets sent out the exhaust anyhow.
Not totally foolish you now have experience building a flat head. And you tested it before install. Te foolish thing would be having it installed and then find out it's bad.
Unless you pressure-tested the cooling system (hard to do with the motor out of the car and sitting on the floor) there's almost no way you could have known the first motor had a cracked block
As this has happened twice now is it not possible to make something up to first just put water in the blocks and pressurise the water to check for these cracks before doing time consuming and maybe costly work to the engines.
Hamms and PBR, you must be a midwesterner. Wisconsin or Minnesota maybe?
I spotted the Pharaoh quote! It's the principal!!!
The new motor sounds great 👍 bummer the first one is shot .but your boys jumped on it for you and sorted you out ( your shout was it Mike)
Mike flatheads are always a gamble, . But at least you were able to have a good one at the warehouse. Not alot of people are that lucky.
The only mistake you made was taking a man's word that it was a good engine. That's not on you, that's on him.
Life is a gamble. Don't beat yourself up.
Nice haircut, Mike. Know anyone who does hair? dw
Just tell Mike that it has marine manifolds on it, it'll be fine...
India could fix that cracked block and you know it 👍
But how can you tell in buying an engine whether it’s good or not? Unless it is running in a car or on a engine stand?
Mike , it wasn't a foolish mistake you took the person's word at it was a good engine ! Anyone can take a person's word on anything but end up not working out right !
JB Weld and Bar’s leak is all you need for leaking flatty..
Mike I had a head bolt leaking did the same thing , l saw with a boring scoap
None of my business. But how much did it cost ya?😢
U can pressure test with a twenty dollar hand pump geez get a clue
Try k d block sealer it worked for us and lasted till the moter wore out from hard use
Thought you had a nail head all hotroded put that in that roadster!!!!
I love the old Buick nail heads because the way they look is so unique. It isn’t going to happen because Mike seems set on a flathead
Why do these engines sound like they have a lopey cam?
Have to make the mistake to learn this lesson. I did. So glad to see you
have a motor for the roadster. I really like to see this one coming together. Steve I hope you have your eye on a hot rod project.
😢 But nice Video in the End.
#STAYSAFE
#PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
those kids are the sweetest. love the happy doggo too!
shop looks great, more organised
What in the heck are you doing running it so long with no water? Trying to crack or seize it?
The engine didn’t even get up to temp.
Great video!
Wonder weld
I would not call this a "foolish mistake " without handheld pressure testing or X-ray vision.
Your old motor would be perfect for vintage hydroplane racers.
Central California watching
cute family mike
Years ago I had a cracked hipo 289 head. None of the welding shops would touch it. My Dad found a shop that repaired heavy equipment and they were able to repair it. I think it was called furnace brazing. Might want to look into that as an option to repair the block. Good luck 🍀
I know how you feel Mike, my “running when pulled” flathead has a lifter with the bottom knocked out and a cam with one very worn lobe. It may have run, but it didn’t run well…
Mike has beautiful kids & now, a beautiful Flat Head! but as a Volkswagen guy, why would anyone wanna put water in a motor? lol
Glad to see you working with your family, Mike. There is always another motor, but not another family! Or friends!
Congratulations Mike Sounds good It’s just part of the game of Cars
Don't beat yourself up Mike. Flatties are a gamble anyway. We've all been there.
This video gives me anxiety, as I haven't fired my 47 ab yet glad you had a spare motor and it didn't slow you down much
So the bock you had was cracked. Well at least you have several engines around. Thanks ! 💯👍
There are thermostats for these engines. They drop in the hose outlets on the heads. If you can't find those, you can use standard-size modern thermostats and grind off the flanges, and put them in the upper hoses and secure them in place with hose clamps.
I've been pulling for🎉 you mike hate that happened
great video, maybe you should do a video on where to look for failure spots on flats?
no problem just keep a look out for a bare block you still have a good rotating assembly
where's your little helper? never mind... there he is. cute kids!
Idk why but I hoped you were going to put a nail head in your car
Stromberg Steve in his natural habitat
We all get tripped up. Great recovery!
Great video, and Lesson too!!
Pee Ons get to do all the fun shit....lol
Great to see you have a good runner.😊
Sounds wicked
Steve is magic engine man!