Throwing out prophets was the business of Israel’s spiritual leaders because they spoke against their traditions. It is therefore advisable to throw out your traditions so you do not run the risk of throwing out a prophet. Here are some of them: Immortal soul. Millennial Kingdom Eternal generation Once saved always saved Sunday keeping Eternal burning in hell Antiochus Epiphanus as the little horn. The bossom of Abraham The third temple The cross as end of the atonement proces.
The Reformers who SDAs praise, advanced the Union of Church & State themselves… It was the German princes who shielded Luther from the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor, who later adopted Lutheranism, making it the state religion in their realms. Luther himself advocated the persecution of Jews & Anabaptists. It was King Henry VIII who seized the monasteries & convents before making Anglicanism the sole religion of England, John Calvin had his theocracy in Geneva under which Michael Servetus was burned at the stake, the fleeing Puritans set up their witch hunts in America. Even the U.S. Constitution allowed the 13 colonies to have their own state-churches well into the early 19th century as long as there wasn’t a national church.
@@deus_vult8111 right-SDAs think the Reformers were anabaptists that advocated for an entire separation of church and state when that isn’t true at all. In fact, in Munster this was Luther’s entire contention with the Anabaptists (Thomas Muntzer). They were lawless and what they advocated for leads to total moral decay of the society because it leads to the ungodly taking over.
It is not because one praises a reformer for advancing the cause of the Truth that there is agreement on everything he did or say. Luther brought light in the darkness but this was only the beginning of a process of growing light. So do not put it so bluntly as you do.
@@FraeDen“Luther brought light in the darkness but this was only the beginning of a process of growing light.” > So if it was the “beginning” then you say everybody was living in darkness before 1517?? Explain.
@@FraeDenIf Luther brought in light then why don’t you follow him? Luther never kept the Jewish sabbath, nor did he ever embrace vegetarianism. Why didn’t Luther accept adventism?
The Lamblike beast of Revelation 13, the United States of America, is lamblike,or Christian, with two SEPARATE horns...Republicanism (No King) and Protestantism (No Pope). Our first amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Sadly, this lamblike beast will speak as a dragon in Rev 13:11 and cause all to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST in Rev 13:12. Who does the Bible, and all protestant reformers, declare this first beast to be? The Roman Catholic Church. And what do they claim as their "Mark of ecclesiastical power"? Changing the sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st for which, they say, there is no biblical authority. So what is the "Mark" of the "Beast"? When this lamblike beast speaks through its laws and causes all to keep Sunday sacred. A sunday law will be passed by this nation. We see the beginning consensus for this in Project 2025 by the conservatives which simply echos the Pope's Ladato Si concerning the need for Sunday rest by law. And also in the climate change cries for a sunday of rest, also echoing Ladato Si. Just as scripture says in Rev 3...ALL the WORLD wondered after the beast.
One only has to understand the Adventist interpretation of Daniel to know how utterly absurd their thinking is. The SDA believes that the bulk of the teaching of the book of Daniel is the prophet Daniel condemning the Church Christ Himself instituted which EGW and the Adventists believe is the Whore of Babylon, the 4th beast of Daniel 2, and the 10 toes, the person who changed the law and times of Daniel 7 ad nauseum. One has to wonder how Christ could be so foolish as to institute the "Great Whore" while Ellen G. White being so much superior in her own mind, instituted the 3 angels message church the SDA in the Adventist mind. The Adventists have staked their souls and eternal life on a false prophet. Small wonder Ellen G. White and the Adventists so abhorred the doctrine of eternal punishment, she and they knew instinctively exactly where she was headed.
SDA teach eternal punishment as the Bible teaches it. Everyone that is not saved by faith in the blood of Jesus will be cast in the lake of fire. The Bible says that the lake of fire is the second death. As far as I know there is only one definition of death and that is a condition where there is no live anymore. Those who have seperated themselves from the source of all live, from the only One who has immortality will get what they have chosen for; eternal seperation from God and that means eternal destruction and death. Their remembrance will have disappeared forever. Nowhere in the Bible can you find that the soul is immortal. This is the teaching of Satan from the beginning.
@@FraeDenSDAs are wrong. the second death is not annihilationism but eternal torment. That’s the punishment. Non-existence is not the punishment. Being “tormented with fire and brimstone” (Rev. 14:10) they “have no rest day nor night…” (Rev. 14:11)… “tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev. 20:10). TORMENTED NO REST FOR EVER AND EVER DAY AND NIGHT
@@deus_vult8111 Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” There is no more fire in the regions of Sodom. The fire destroyed everything forever. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. So it is clear from scripture that nothing will be left of the old world and her wickedness. God will create a new heaven and a new earth where only righteousness dwells. The unrighteousness are no more. You can find the same image from Rev 14 in Isaiah 34. Isa 34:9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.Isa 34:10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.Isa 34:12 They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.- you see nobody is left. All that lived there are utterly destroyed as it was in Sodom as it will be in the day of vengeance of the Lord.
Adventists use Saul Alinsky tactics. They constantly point out the speck in everyone else's eye hoping that, by doing so, no one will notice the log that is in theirs. The local SDA church in my area teaches their new converts to ridicule REAL Christians from the moment they join their cult. At least that is my experience with every Adventist I've met from that particular congregation, which leads me to wonder if this is an isolated issue, or is it the NORM with SDA churches across the board. I know that their TV preachers all come off just as smug and arrogant as Word of Faith preachers, but with a condescending attitude added to that list.
@@Stevetherock that’s what’s so ironic. The sda church is constantly criticizing everyone else but then Adventists get mad when you critique Adventist theology. No, sadly this isn’t anomalous. Are all Adventists the way you described? No. Are a large percentage if not the majority? Yes
@@answeringadventism It just seems to me that if you live in a glass house, called The Great Disappointment, it would be more prudent to work the bugs out of your own system than throwing stones at everyone else's.
Adventist's point Christ followers to Read the Bible for themselves not to be told by pastors,the TD Jake's,the tattooed preacher Myles, Benny hinn, you know your Crew 😂
@@alongcamejones309 if sampled 100 Adventist's you may be shocked that it might be 2 who know about the GC so stop Assuming,and tell your tattooed boss to meditate on Mark 8:34 and when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also,he said unto them, whosever will come after me , let him deny himself,and take up his Cross,and follow me" but for you and the tattoos you are after Adventists not After Jesus Christ that's the reason this same platform for the tattoos was created
Mr Lomacang really needs to look up the meaning of "Dominionism." I DID just look it up ~ Nary a Frog nor a Demon nor a Dragon to be found. He has, IMO, lost any wisp of credibility he may have been attempting to keep in his grasp.
God's word clearly explains end time events in Daniel 2, 7, 8, 9, Revelation 13, 16, 17.... The lamblike United States beast will make an alliance with the papal beast over worship and control over conscience.
@@alllthatinacan What verse specifically specifies which country (contingent upon geopolitical borders in the past 4,000 years or so, give or take a few) is assigned to which animal. How do you know that you know there is even an animal/country association at all? Bible Verse, please. Not "Clear Word." No Ellensplain about what she thinks it means. Please and thank you.
@@cindiloowhoo1166 The Bible in Daniel 7:17 and 23 tell us that beasts are kings/kingdoms. We also read this in Daniel 8. Daniel 2's vision of the image lays out the kingdoms that would rule from Bablyon to the end of the world...Babylon to Medo-Persia, to Greece to the legs of iron which would be Rome as Rome conquered Greece..to the mixed toes destroyed by Jesus Christ. Daniel 7 magnifies Daniel 2 with more details showing that a little horn would come up out of the fourth terrible beast. All of the attributes of this little horn match the papacy from the blasphemy spoken, the changing of the law, the persecution of the saints, the destruction of the three tribes, and the 1260 year rule of persecution through the dark ages. All of this little horn papal description matches perfectly the first beast of Revelation 13 which also speaks blasphemy, and persecutes, and ruled for 1260 years ending in 1798 when it received "as it were a deadly wound" when the pope was captured by Berthier and died in French captivity. The lamblike beast comes up out of the "earth" as this first beast is going down as seen in Rev 13:11. What nation on earth was gaining prominence on the world scene in the late 1700s and was lamblike or Christian, with a separation of church and state (2 horns without crowns)? The United States of America. It comes up in the earth, which is opposite from the first beast that comes up out of the sea. Revelation 17 tells us the sea represents multitudes, so the earth would be the opposite, or sparsely populated. This is the King James Version.
@@AWW8472 right. And it wasn’t even new in the days of the SDA pioneers. But that didn’t stop them from using it as a vehicle for a means to their desired ends of painting themselves as some end times global martyr figure.
Which one is best for you, under dominion of Islam or Christian? All countries that had built under Christian dominion are live in peace and prospher. See the countries under Islam dominion, they have plan to invade all those peace countires and wish to ruin them.
@@FraeDenyou too, read your history in seven AD, who invaded Europe and Asia minor and Byzantium Kingdoms? Ever them ask for forgiveness for what they have done? Roman Catholic had asked for forgiveness.
@@FraeDen It is not surprised if SDA said that Islam Allah is same as YHVH in Jews and Christian, and also said there are good teachings in qoran. Hmmmmm
@@aosigal8704 This is certainly not my view. Islam was set up to destroy true Christianity. It is evil to the core. If Catholics would have sincerely repented from their evil deeds they would have changed their Canon Laws that sustain persecution of heretics.Was not the canon law the source of the notorious Spanish Inquisition, granting inquisitors the power to condemn men and women to death because of their religious opinions? Did it not lodge all legitimate authority in an autocratic papacy, granting to the Roman pontiff a potentially unlimited power over church and clergy? Did it not perpetuate the Roman law's institution of slavery, allowing religious institutions to hold men and women in perpetual servitude? It did and it didn't change.
SDA: "I noticed ----- Myles has some tattoo's ." Me: 'yeah, I saw that he does." SDA: "That's sure too bad. Tattoos are a sin, you know?" Me, "They may be ugly sometimes but I don't think they are a sin." SDA,"Yes, it says in the Bible it is a sin to get a tattoo." Me, "I recently read that verse. In fact I read the chapter before that verse, the chapter that verse is in and the chapter following the chapter that verse is in and as Christians we are not bound by the verse that a tattoo is wrong." SDA,"Yes we are. It says tattoos are wrong. It's that easy." Me, "There are hundreds of laws given in those chapters. Those are the laws the Israelites were bound by while they were wandering around in Egypt for 400 years. They are not for Christians." SDA, "The Bible says the whole Bible is given for instruction and guidance. That we are not supposed to pick out what we want to follow and follow that and that and we can disregard what we don't like." Me, "I said I read the chapter that verse was in, the chapter before it and the chapter after it. It also says not to wear clothing of different kinds of cloth and that a lady is unclean for seven days after her menstruation and can't be touched and some other rules on different things. Do you watch real carefully so that when you get dressed you don't have different kinds of cloth on?" SDA, "Those laws we are not under. Classic!
@@terrygreenman1540 the Man having tattoos shows you that he was not an adventist before because we don't paint ourselves that means he's a professed Adventist, are you not the ones who preach that it's only new testament that matters,how come today you're also saying the whole Bible is for instructions hahahahaha you will keep confusing yourselves FOREVER paul your beloved man you like using his writings for justifying sins said you should present your bodies as a living sacrifice 😜😜 as your reasonable service before God yet you are there classifying sins
*Did you know:*All the murderers, persecutors and torturer's of Christ, the Apostles and the Church’s chose And *"Remembered the Sabbath"* (Exodus 20:8) It is not by coincidence that Judas, the "Son of Perdition" was a Sabbath keeper! (John 17:12) It is not by coincidence that Judas, the Sabbath keeper betrayed Christ for money. Mt. 27:3 It is not by coincidence that Judas, the Sabbath keeper "betrayed Christ with a kiss. (Mt. 26:49) It is not by coincidence that "Satan entered unto him" (Judas, the Sabbath keeper) the Son of Perdition. (John 13:27) It is not by coincidence that "the Chief Priest" of the Sabbath keepers "covenanted with Judas to betray Christ (Mt. 26:15, John 17:12, 2Thess 2:3) It is not by coincidence that; the *chief priests and scribes (of the Sabbath keepers ) sought how they might KILL him* (CHRIST) ; for they feared the people (Luke 22:2) It is not by coincidence that John 13:27 says, And after the sop *Satan entered into him.* (Judas, the Sabbath keeper) Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. (John 13:27) It is not by coincidence that the "Son of Perdition" and Sabbath keeper betrayed Christ by saying; "Hail, master; and kissed him" It is not by coincidence that the chief of the Sabbath keepers said; *We have no king but Caesar* (John 19:15) It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers desired to murder Christ over the Sabbath day (John 5:17-19) It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers chose a murder to be set free rather than Christ. (Mt. 27:20) It is not by coincidence that Judas admitted he had betrayed innocent blood, and the Chief of the Sabbath keepers said, "What is that to us" (Mt. 27:4) It is not by coincidence that the Chief of the Sabbath keepers and their elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. (Mt. 27:20) It is not by coincidence that when Pilate asked What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? *They (THE SABBATH KEEPERS) ALL say unto him, Let him be crucified.* It is no coincidence, that when the Governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But *they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.* (Mt. 22:23) It is no coincidence that ALL the Sabbath keepers finally said" , *His blood be on us, and on our children.* (Mt. 27:25) It is not by coincidence that Christ says to the Sabbath keepers in John 5:45 " I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him YOU WILL RECEIVE.* It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers, who persecuted and murdered Christ refused to have anything to do with Christ's resurrection day, while the disciples of Christ met and worshiped at his feet that very Sunday. You know, the disciples of Christ were so afraid of the wicked Sabbath keepers, that after the resurrection, that they all huddled in one places ON SUNDAY for *"fear"* of the Sabbath keepers would persecute and murder them too. (John 20:17) Yeah, the Sabbath keepers are "Remnant people" alright. They are the "Remnants" of those who murdered Christ and the Apostles. Thus, Christ said to the Sabbath keepers in Mt. 23: 31 *Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children (remnants) of them which KILLED the prophets.* And to this, Ellen G. White says herself: "
@@user-sm3qh5xq1y first it's the Romans who crucified Jesus Christ and killed the apostles, secondly you talking like God, how was Christ supposed to save us 😔😔😔😔😔 since you talk like you New how Christ was supposed to be crucified foolishness is part of the things which defile man according to mark 7:22
@@okwijames947 You are utterly deceived, my friend. Pilate washed his hands of any desire to crucify Christ! Judas, betrayed Christ, he was a devout Sabbath keeper! On the "Preparation day" before the Sabbath, The Sabbath keepers betrayed, persecuted, denied and nailed and hung Lord of the Sabbath. All of this is confirmed by the Apostle Rock taught in Acts 3: Speaking to the Sabbath keepers from the Temple of the Jews! Acts 3: 12 And when Rock (Peter) saw it, he answered unto the people, *Ye men of Israel* , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? 13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; *whom YOU delivered up, and DENIED him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.* 14 *But YOU denied the Holy One and the Just, and *desired a MURDER* to be granted unto YOU; 15 *And KILLED the Prince of life,* whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. Yep, the Sabbath keepers condemned and murdered the "Lord of the Sabbath" while desiring a murderer. You can't make these things up! There is something very prophetic in that part of "desiring a murderer" . The Devout Sabbath keepers In scripture like the Adventist's and their manifold splinter groups were devout Sabbath keepers and preachers of the law. There are many wonderful examples in the Bible where the Sabbath keepers, all believed they were "keeping the commandments of God" by keeping the Sabbath day. Here's just a few of them and what Christ and the Apostles have to say to and about them. *The Sabbath keepers *CALLED CHRIST POSSESSED BY BEELZEBUB* Mark 3:22 (KJV) The Sabbath keepers say Christ is *possessed of Satan* ! *He hath Beelzebub* (SATAN) , The Sabbath keepers say Christ by the “PRINCE OF THE DEVILS casts out demon* Mt. 10:25 Christ warns that the Sabbath keepers will call those of his Church , “Satan and demon possessed too” Matt. 21:31 Jesus saith unto the Sabbath keepers, Verily I say unto you, *That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.* Mt. 21:35 Jesus Says, the Sabbath keepers *.. took his (God’s) servants, and *beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.* Mt. 21: Jesus says to the Sabbath keepers, that “surely they will reverence “His Son” (Christ) but instead, *they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard,* *and slew him.* Mt. 21: 41 Jesus says, “He will miserably destroy those wicked men” (the Sabbath keepers) Mt. 21:43: Jesus says to the Sabbath keepers: Therefore say I unto you, *The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,* and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. I’m Mt. 22:5 Jesus says the Sabbath keepers were called unto the wedding feast BUT, THEY *made light of it and went their ways,” Mt. 22:6 Jesus says, that *the REMNANT took HIS servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.* (the Sabbath keepers murdering Christ, the prophets and the Apostles AND THE SAINTS, (Matt. 23:34, Rev.17:6, Rev. 18:24, Rev.17:6 Mt. 22:7 But when the king (Jesus) heard thereof, he was wroth: and *he* (Jesus) *sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.* Mt. 23:34 Christ says the Sabbath keepers he would send them , “Prophets, Wise men and Scribes” but the Sabbath keeps killed, crucified, scourged in their synagogues and persecuted them from city to city” Matthew 23:13-15 (KJV) Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers: Mt. 23:27 Woe unto you, the Sabbath keepers* hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, *which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 28 *"Even ye al outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.*" Christ says about the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:29 *"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 31 *Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which KILLED the prophets.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 32 *Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 33 *Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?* Christ says TO Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 35 *..upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias n of Barachias whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.* CHRIST SAYSUNTO THE SABBATH KEEPERS Mt. 23: 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, *thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee* . Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23 :35 That upon YOU may come *ALL THE RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED UPON THE EARTH* ,from the BLOOD OF RIGHTEOUS ABEL unto the blood of Zacharias n of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. John 5 vs 18 *The Sabbath Keepers seek to KILL Christ over the Sabbath* , BECAUSE CHRIST SAID BOTH HE AND HIS FATHER WORKS EVERY SABBATH DAY! John 5:18 The Sabbath keepers *”sought ALL THE MORE TO PERSECUTE CHRIST”* Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mark 9:34 *O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh* .
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 28 *"Even ye al outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.*" John 9 vs 22 *THE SABBATH KEEPERS AGREE THAT IF ANY MAN CONFESSES CHRIST HE SHOULD BE PUT OUT THE SYNAGOGUE*. *Acts 2:22-23* (KJV) Peter says that the Sabbath keepers by "wicked hands took, crucified and murdered Christ. Acts 5 vs 17 Then the high priest (of the Sabbath Keeper) rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and *were filled with indignation* , Acts 5:18 Sabbath keepers *laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison* . COMMENT: ONCE AGAIN, THE SABBATH KEEPERS PERSECUTE THE APOSTLES OF THE CHURCH AND PUT THE APOSTLES IN PRISON. Acts 7: St. Stephen calls the Sabbath keepers 'stiffnecked and uncircumcised of heart and ears, for resisting the Holy Spirit. Acts 7 St. Stephen asks the Sabbath keepers *Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted?* Acts 7 St. Stephen accuses the Sabbath keepers: *And they have *slain them who foretold of the coming of the Just One; of whom you have been now the *betrayers and murderers:* Acts 7 St. Stephen accuses the Sabbath keepers" Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and *have not kept it.”* !!!! Acts 7 the Sabbath keeper’s *”gnashed their teeth”* *biting on St. Stephen’s body like wild animals.* Acts 7 The Sabbath keeper’s stone St. Stephen to death with rocks. ACTS 12 vs 12 *THE SABBATH KEEPERS KILL JAMES THE BROTHER OF JOHN WITH A SWORD AND THEN TRY TO KILL PETER TOO*
Until SDA separated from idea of EGW and her teaching is the foundation of SDA beside the Bible, they are NOT CHRISTIAN.
If Lomacang understood his statement 'a plain thus says the Lord' then he would just stick to the Bible only and throw out EGW
You mean EG White 😂😂
When will you follow the bible, and stop following the Pope!
Throwing out prophets was the business of Israel’s spiritual leaders because they spoke against their traditions. It is therefore advisable to throw out your traditions so you do not run the risk of throwing out a prophet.
Here are some of them:
Immortal soul.
Millennial Kingdom
Eternal generation
Once saved always saved
Sunday keeping
Eternal burning in hell
Antiochus Epiphanus as the little horn.
The bossom of Abraham
The third temple
The cross as end of the atonement proces.
Wingnut Lomacang cracks me up.😂
The Reformers who SDAs praise, advanced the Union of Church & State themselves… It was the German princes who shielded Luther from the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor, who later adopted Lutheranism, making it the state religion in their realms. Luther himself advocated the persecution of Jews & Anabaptists. It was King Henry VIII who seized the monasteries & convents before making Anglicanism the sole religion of England, John Calvin had his theocracy in Geneva under which Michael Servetus was burned at the stake, the fleeing Puritans set up their witch hunts in America. Even the U.S. Constitution allowed the 13 colonies to have their own state-churches well into the early 19th century as long as there wasn’t a national church.
@@deus_vult8111 right-SDAs think the Reformers were anabaptists that advocated for an entire separation of church and state when that isn’t true at all. In fact, in Munster this was Luther’s entire contention with the Anabaptists (Thomas Muntzer). They were lawless and what they advocated for leads to total moral decay of the society because it leads to the ungodly taking over.
It is not because one praises a reformer for advancing the cause of the Truth that there is agreement on everything he did or say. Luther brought light in the darkness but this was only the beginning of a process of growing light. So do not put it so bluntly as you do.
@@FraeDen“Luther brought light in the darkness but this was only the beginning of a process of growing light.”
> So if it was the “beginning” then you say everybody was living in darkness before 1517?? Explain.
@@FraeDenIf Luther brought in light then why don’t you follow him? Luther never kept the Jewish sabbath, nor did he ever embrace vegetarianism. Why didn’t Luther accept adventism?
The Lamblike beast of Revelation 13, the United States of America, is lamblike,or Christian, with two SEPARATE horns...Republicanism (No King) and Protestantism (No Pope). Our first amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Sadly, this lamblike beast will speak as a dragon in Rev 13:11 and cause all to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST in Rev 13:12. Who does the Bible, and all protestant reformers, declare this first beast to be? The Roman Catholic Church. And what do they claim as their "Mark of ecclesiastical power"? Changing the sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st for which, they say, there is no biblical authority. So what is the "Mark" of the "Beast"? When this lamblike beast speaks through its laws and causes all to keep Sunday sacred. A sunday law will be passed by this nation. We see the beginning consensus for this in Project 2025 by the conservatives which simply echos the Pope's Ladato Si concerning the need for Sunday rest by law. And also in the climate change cries for a sunday of rest, also echoing Ladato Si. Just as scripture says in Rev 3...ALL the WORLD wondered after the beast.
One only has to understand the Adventist interpretation of Daniel to know how utterly absurd their thinking is. The SDA believes that the bulk of the teaching of the book of Daniel is the prophet Daniel condemning the Church Christ Himself instituted which EGW and the Adventists believe is the Whore of Babylon, the 4th beast of Daniel 2, and the 10 toes, the person who changed the law and times of Daniel 7 ad nauseum. One has to wonder how Christ could be so foolish as to institute the "Great Whore" while Ellen G. White being so much superior in her own mind, instituted the 3 angels message church the SDA in the Adventist mind. The Adventists have staked their souls and eternal life on a false prophet. Small wonder Ellen G. White and the Adventists so abhorred the doctrine of eternal punishment, she and they knew instinctively exactly where she was headed.
SDA teach eternal punishment as the Bible teaches it. Everyone that is not saved by faith in the blood of Jesus will be cast in the lake of fire. The Bible says that the lake of fire is the second death. As far as I know there is only one definition of death and that is a condition where there is no live anymore. Those who have seperated themselves from the source of all live, from the only One who has immortality will get what they have chosen for; eternal seperation from God and that means eternal destruction and death. Their remembrance will have disappeared forever. Nowhere in the Bible can you find that the soul is immortal. This is the teaching of Satan from the beginning.
@@FraeDenSDAs are wrong. the second death is not annihilationism but eternal torment. That’s the punishment. Non-existence is not the punishment. Being “tormented with fire and brimstone” (Rev. 14:10) they “have no rest day nor night…” (Rev. 14:11)… “tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev. 20:10).
TORMENTED
NO REST
FOR EVER AND EVER
DAY AND NIGHT
@@deus_vult8111 Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” There is no more fire in the regions of Sodom. The fire destroyed everything forever.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
So it is clear from scripture that nothing will be left of the old world and her wickedness.
God will create a new heaven and a new earth where only righteousness dwells. The unrighteousness are no more.
You can find the same image from Rev 14 in Isaiah 34. Isa 34:9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.Isa 34:10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.Isa 34:12 They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.- you see nobody is left. All that lived there are utterly destroyed as it was in Sodom as it will be in the day of vengeance of the Lord.
Thank you so much for this video! GBY Myles 🙏🏼
@@Mindelson hahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Adventists use Saul Alinsky tactics. They constantly point out the speck in everyone else's eye hoping that, by doing so, no one will notice the log that is in theirs. The local SDA church in my area teaches their new converts to ridicule REAL Christians from the moment they join their cult. At least that is my experience with every Adventist I've met from that particular congregation, which leads me to wonder if this is an isolated issue, or is it the NORM with SDA churches across the board. I know that their TV preachers all come off just as smug and arrogant as Word of Faith preachers, but with a condescending attitude added to that list.
@@Stevetherock that’s what’s so ironic. The sda church is constantly criticizing everyone else but then Adventists get mad when you critique Adventist theology. No, sadly this isn’t anomalous. Are all Adventists the way you described? No. Are a large percentage if not the majority? Yes
@@answeringadventism It just seems to me that if you live in a glass house, called The Great Disappointment, it would be more prudent to work the bugs out of your own system than throwing stones at everyone else's.
Adventist's point Christ followers to Read the Bible for themselves not to be told by pastors,the TD Jake's,the tattooed preacher Myles, Benny hinn, you know your Crew 😂
@@okwijames947 Adventists point people to the GC. Which is a masterful piece deceptive fiction. SAD. 😢
@@alongcamejones309 if sampled 100 Adventist's you may be shocked that it might be 2 who know about the GC so stop Assuming,and tell your tattooed boss to meditate on Mark 8:34 and when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also,he said unto them, whosever will come after me , let him deny himself,and take up his Cross,and follow me" but for you and the tattoos you are after Adventists not After Jesus Christ that's the reason this same platform for the tattoos was created
I think some folks just be making stuff up.
@@BramptonAnglican yep, that is Ellen White 💯
You think, but are you sure?
@@FraeDenLomacang definitely makes up his nonsense
Mr Lomacang really needs to look up the meaning of "Dominionism." I DID just look it up ~ Nary a Frog nor a Demon nor a Dragon to be found. He has, IMO, lost any wisp of credibility he may have been attempting to keep in his grasp.
God's word clearly explains end time events in Daniel 2, 7, 8, 9, Revelation 13, 16, 17.... The lamblike United States beast will make an alliance with the papal beast over worship and control over conscience.
@@alllthatinacan What verse specifically specifies which country (contingent upon geopolitical borders in the past 4,000 years or so, give or take a few) is assigned to which animal. How do you know that you know there is even an animal/country association at all? Bible Verse, please. Not "Clear Word." No Ellensplain about what she thinks it means.
Please and thank you.
@@cindiloowhoo1166 The Bible in Daniel 7:17 and 23 tell us that beasts are kings/kingdoms. We also read this in Daniel 8.
Daniel 2's vision of the image lays out the kingdoms that would rule from Bablyon to the end of the world...Babylon to Medo-Persia, to Greece to the legs of iron which would be Rome as Rome conquered Greece..to the mixed toes destroyed by Jesus Christ.
Daniel 7 magnifies Daniel 2 with more details showing that a little horn would come up out of the fourth terrible beast. All of the attributes of this little horn match the papacy from the blasphemy spoken, the changing of the law, the persecution of the saints, the destruction of the three tribes, and the 1260 year rule of persecution through the dark ages.
All of this little horn papal description matches perfectly the first beast of Revelation 13 which also speaks blasphemy, and persecutes, and ruled for 1260 years ending in 1798 when it received "as it were a deadly wound" when the pope was captured by Berthier and died in French captivity.
The lamblike beast comes up out of the "earth" as this first beast is going down as seen in Rev 13:11.
What nation on earth was gaining prominence on the world scene in the late 1700s and was lamblike or Christian, with a separation of church and state (2 horns without crowns)? The United States of America. It comes up in the earth, which is opposite from the first beast that comes up out of the sea. Revelation 17 tells us the sea represents multitudes, so the earth would be the opposite, or sparsely populated.
This is the King James Version.
This dude is just crazy!
Dominionism is not new. Maybe to Lomacang.
@@AWW8472 right. And it wasn’t even new in the days of the SDA pioneers. But that didn’t stop them from using it as a vehicle for a means to their desired ends of painting themselves as some end times global martyr figure.
The Lomacang dude misapplies all his truth about 7s, to believers in Jesus Christ the Lord.
Which one is best for you, under dominion of Islam or Christian? All countries that had built under Christian dominion are live in peace and prospher. See the countries under Islam dominion, they have plan to invade all those peace countires and wish to ruin them.
Please read your history. Did you forget about the inquisition? Read Rev. 13.
@@FraeDenyou too, read your history in seven AD, who invaded Europe and Asia minor and Byzantium Kingdoms? Ever them ask for forgiveness for what they have done? Roman Catholic had asked for forgiveness.
@@FraeDen It is not surprised if SDA said that Islam Allah is same as YHVH in Jews and Christian, and also said there are good teachings in qoran. Hmmmmm
@@aosigal8704 This is certainly not my view. Islam was set up to destroy true Christianity. It is evil to the core.
If Catholics would have sincerely repented from their evil deeds they would have changed their Canon Laws that sustain persecution of heretics.Was not the canon law the source of the notorious Spanish Inquisition, granting inquisitors the power to condemn men and women to death because of their religious opinions? Did it not lodge all legitimate authority in an autocratic papacy, granting to the Roman pontiff a potentially unlimited power over church and clergy? Did it not perpetuate the Roman law's institution of slavery, allowing religious institutions to hold men and women in perpetual servitude? It did and it didn't change.
Your blinded be patient.
Sabotage in the corner again, myles/ tattoo Maker Stop living in dreams accept reality
SDA: "I noticed ----- Myles has some tattoo's ."
Me: 'yeah, I saw that he does."
SDA: "That's sure too bad. Tattoos are a sin, you know?"
Me, "They may be ugly sometimes but I don't think they are a sin."
SDA,"Yes, it says in the Bible it is a sin to get a tattoo."
Me, "I recently read that verse. In fact I read the chapter before that verse, the chapter that verse is in and the chapter following the chapter that verse is in and as Christians we are not bound by the verse that a tattoo is wrong."
SDA,"Yes we are. It says tattoos are wrong. It's that easy."
Me, "There are hundreds of laws given in those chapters. Those are the laws the Israelites were bound by while they were wandering around in Egypt for 400 years. They are not for Christians."
SDA, "The Bible says the whole Bible is given for instruction and guidance. That we are not supposed to pick out what we want to follow and follow that and that and we can disregard what we don't like."
Me, "I said I read the chapter that verse was in, the chapter before it and the chapter after it. It also says not to wear clothing of different kinds of cloth and that a lady is unclean for seven days after her menstruation and can't be touched and some other rules on different things. Do you watch real carefully so that when you get dressed you don't have different kinds of cloth on?"
SDA, "Those laws we are not under.
Classic!
@@terrygreenman1540 the Man having tattoos shows you that he was not an adventist before because we don't paint ourselves that means he's a professed Adventist, are you not the ones who preach that it's only new testament that matters,how come today you're also saying the whole Bible is for instructions hahahahaha you will keep confusing yourselves FOREVER paul your beloved man you like using his writings for justifying sins said you should present your bodies as a living sacrifice 😜😜 as your reasonable service before God yet you are there classifying sins
*Did you know:*All the murderers, persecutors and torturer's of Christ, the Apostles and the Church’s chose And *"Remembered the Sabbath"* (Exodus 20:8)
It is not by coincidence that Judas, the "Son of Perdition" was a Sabbath keeper! (John 17:12)
It is not by coincidence that Judas, the Sabbath keeper betrayed Christ for money. Mt. 27:3
It is not by coincidence that Judas, the Sabbath keeper "betrayed Christ with a kiss. (Mt. 26:49)
It is not by coincidence that "Satan entered unto him" (Judas, the Sabbath keeper) the Son of Perdition. (John 13:27)
It is not by coincidence that "the Chief Priest" of the Sabbath keepers "covenanted with Judas to betray Christ (Mt. 26:15, John 17:12, 2Thess 2:3)
It is not by coincidence that; the *chief priests and scribes (of the Sabbath keepers ) sought how they might KILL him* (CHRIST) ; for they feared the people (Luke 22:2)
It is not by coincidence that John 13:27 says, And after the sop *Satan entered into him.* (Judas, the Sabbath keeper) Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. (John 13:27)
It is not by coincidence that the "Son of Perdition" and Sabbath keeper betrayed Christ by saying; "Hail, master; and kissed him"
It is not by coincidence that the chief of the Sabbath keepers said; *We have no king but Caesar*
(John 19:15)
It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers desired to murder Christ over the Sabbath day (John 5:17-19)
It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers chose a murder to be set free rather than Christ. (Mt. 27:20)
It is not by coincidence that Judas admitted he had betrayed innocent blood, and the Chief of the Sabbath keepers said, "What is that to us" (Mt. 27:4)
It is not by coincidence that the Chief of the Sabbath keepers and their elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. (Mt. 27:20)
It is not by coincidence that when Pilate asked What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? *They (THE SABBATH KEEPERS) ALL say unto him, Let him be crucified.*
It is no coincidence, that when the Governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But *they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.* (Mt. 22:23)
It is no coincidence that ALL the Sabbath keepers finally said" , *His blood be on us, and on our children.* (Mt. 27:25)
It is not by coincidence that Christ says to the Sabbath keepers in John 5:45 " I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him YOU WILL RECEIVE.*
It is not by coincidence that the Sabbath keepers, who persecuted and murdered Christ refused to have anything to do with Christ's resurrection day, while the disciples of Christ met and worshiped at his feet that very Sunday.
You know, the disciples of Christ were so afraid of the wicked Sabbath keepers, that after the resurrection, that they all huddled in one places ON SUNDAY for *"fear"* of the Sabbath keepers would persecute and murder them too. (John 20:17)
Yeah, the Sabbath keepers are "Remnant people" alright. They are the "Remnants" of those who murdered Christ and the Apostles. Thus, Christ said to the Sabbath keepers in Mt. 23: 31 *Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children (remnants) of them which KILLED the prophets.*
And to this, Ellen G. White says herself: "
@@user-sm3qh5xq1y first it's the Romans who crucified Jesus Christ and killed the apostles, secondly you talking like God, how was Christ supposed to save us 😔😔😔😔😔 since you talk like you New how Christ was supposed to be crucified foolishness is part of the things which defile man according to mark 7:22
@@okwijames947 You are utterly deceived, my friend. Pilate washed his hands of any desire to crucify Christ! Judas, betrayed Christ, he was a devout Sabbath keeper! On the "Preparation day" before the Sabbath, The Sabbath keepers betrayed, persecuted, denied and nailed and hung Lord of the Sabbath. All of this is confirmed by the Apostle Rock taught in Acts 3: Speaking to the Sabbath keepers from the Temple of the Jews!
Acts 3:
12 And when Rock (Peter) saw it, he answered unto the people, *Ye men of Israel* , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; *whom YOU delivered up, and DENIED him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.*
14 *But YOU denied the Holy One and the Just, and *desired a MURDER* to be granted unto YOU;
15 *And KILLED the Prince of life,* whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
Yep, the Sabbath keepers condemned and murdered the "Lord of the Sabbath" while desiring a murderer. You can't make these things up!
There is something very prophetic in that part of "desiring a murderer" .
The Devout Sabbath keepers In scripture like the Adventist's and their manifold splinter groups were devout Sabbath keepers and preachers of the law. There are many wonderful examples in the Bible where the Sabbath keepers, all believed they were "keeping the commandments of God" by keeping the Sabbath day. Here's just a few of them and what Christ and the Apostles have to say to and about them.
*The Sabbath keepers *CALLED CHRIST POSSESSED BY BEELZEBUB* Mark 3:22 (KJV)
The Sabbath keepers say Christ is *possessed of Satan* ! *He hath Beelzebub* (SATAN) ,
The Sabbath keepers say Christ by the “PRINCE OF THE DEVILS casts out demon*
Mt. 10:25 Christ warns that the Sabbath keepers will call those of his Church , “Satan and demon possessed too”
Matt. 21:31 Jesus saith unto the Sabbath keepers, Verily I say unto you, *That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.*
Mt. 21:35 Jesus Says, the Sabbath keepers *.. took his (God’s) servants, and *beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.*
Mt. 21: Jesus says to the Sabbath keepers, that “surely they will reverence “His Son” (Christ) but instead,
*they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard,* *and slew him.*
Mt. 21: 41 Jesus says, “He will miserably destroy those wicked men” (the Sabbath keepers)
Mt. 21:43: Jesus says to the Sabbath keepers: Therefore say I unto you, *The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,* and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. I’m
Mt. 22:5 Jesus says the Sabbath keepers were called unto the wedding feast BUT, THEY *made light of it and went their ways,”
Mt. 22:6 Jesus says, that *the REMNANT took HIS servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.* (the Sabbath keepers murdering Christ, the prophets and the Apostles AND THE SAINTS, (Matt. 23:34, Rev.17:6, Rev. 18:24, Rev.17:6
Mt. 22:7 But when the king (Jesus) heard thereof, he was wroth: and *he* (Jesus) *sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.*
Mt. 23:34 Christ says the Sabbath keepers he would send them , “Prophets, Wise men and Scribes” but the Sabbath keeps killed, crucified, scourged in their synagogues and persecuted them from city to city”
Matthew 23:13-15 (KJV)
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! *for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers: Mt. 23:27 Woe unto you, the Sabbath keepers* hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, *which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 28 *"Even ye al outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.*"
Christ says about the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23:29 *"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 31 *Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which KILLED the prophets.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 32 *Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 33 *Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?*
Christ says TO Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 35 *..upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias n of Barachias whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.*
CHRIST SAYSUNTO THE SABBATH KEEPERS Mt. 23: 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, *thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee* .
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23 :35 That upon YOU may come *ALL THE RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED UPON THE EARTH* ,from the BLOOD OF RIGHTEOUS ABEL unto the blood of Zacharias n of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
John 5 vs 18 *The Sabbath Keepers seek to KILL Christ over the Sabbath* , BECAUSE CHRIST SAID BOTH HE AND HIS FATHER WORKS EVERY SABBATH DAY!
John 5:18 The Sabbath keepers *”sought ALL THE MORE TO PERSECUTE CHRIST”*
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mark 9:34 *O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh* .
Christ says to the Sabbath keepers Mt. 23: 28 *"Even ye al outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.*"
John 9 vs 22 *THE SABBATH KEEPERS AGREE THAT IF ANY MAN CONFESSES CHRIST HE SHOULD BE PUT OUT THE SYNAGOGUE*.
*Acts 2:22-23* (KJV) Peter says that the Sabbath keepers by "wicked hands took, crucified and murdered Christ.
Acts 5 vs 17 Then the high priest (of the Sabbath Keeper) rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and *were filled with indignation* ,
Acts 5:18 Sabbath keepers *laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison* .
COMMENT: ONCE AGAIN, THE SABBATH KEEPERS PERSECUTE THE APOSTLES OF THE CHURCH AND PUT THE APOSTLES IN PRISON.
Acts 7: St. Stephen calls the Sabbath keepers 'stiffnecked and uncircumcised of heart and ears, for resisting the Holy Spirit.
Acts 7 St. Stephen asks the Sabbath keepers *Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted?*
Acts 7 St. Stephen accuses the Sabbath keepers: *And they have *slain them who foretold of the coming of the Just One; of whom you have been now the *betrayers and murderers:*
Acts 7 St. Stephen accuses the Sabbath keepers" Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and *have not kept it.”* !!!!
Acts 7 the Sabbath keeper’s *”gnashed their teeth”* *biting on St. Stephen’s body like wild animals.*
Acts 7 The Sabbath keeper’s stone St. Stephen to death with rocks.
ACTS 12 vs 12 *THE SABBATH KEEPERS KILL JAMES THE BROTHER OF JOHN WITH A SWORD AND THEN TRY TO KILL PETER TOO*