I love how Harstem was attacking the rocks with the Carriers to get the Interceptors to launch, which allows the Carriers to use their leash range and eliminates the ability of vikings to kite them. It makes such a huge difference!
@@chrisultra8886 Yeah :) Carriers with launched Interceptors essentially have 14 range (vs 9 for viking), so it's a great move. Reminds me of Wings of Liberty when everyone was charging their voids on the rocks pre-battle.
I would imagine most of their apm is actually useful and accurate. In the day9 micro video he talks about how most of the apm is tabbing production 3 4 5 6, location hotkeys f2 f3 f4 and army micro and management.
@@michaelbuckers But she does force scans though, which denies them $$$$... Or Ravens, which are very gas heavy. Either way Terran would rather not be fighting cloaked units, even late game...
@@ZC.Andrew damn, never thought of this, since in bronze league, where I am, no one builds mobile detection or orbitals, so a mothership is nearly a free win!
17:11 Bob the BRAVEST SCV attacks the last remaining Disruptor. Watch the mini-map as he valiantly chases this Devious Disruptor back to where it belongs!! 17:40 Bob blows up. Lowko, I wish you followed Brave Bob's story :'(
That slipped out of my attention! I just wondered what blew up there. Thought: "was there another rock, like the ones under the ramp from main to natural?"
@@ZC.Andrew I think he would rather be like: "Maru... I dreamt for this moment for years. Let me speak slowly to savor every moment of it. Maaaruuu... Yooouuu SUCK!!!"
@@spaceon_fr vs Terran?!?! I think not. We rarely see Carriers take down pro Terrans. They just happen to nicely counter the comp Maru chose, that's all.
I am honestly baffled there were no Tempests with the anti-ground upgrade in this - they could've nuked all those widow mines and missile turrets from a safe distance, forcing the terran to engage forward, right? Like, just add 3 tempest to that stalemate and you are constantly doing damage, forcing a reaction.
For casting it probably helps most to see what's coming next, but since you mentioned going back to the unit tab because nothing was really being built... overall while watching I MUCH rather see units than the production tab. Especially after 6-7 minutes or so. Especially for the battles. When an engagement is OVER, and are reinforcing/remaxing then THAT'S when I want to see the production tab to see what the next plan is. If they lost some units and are jockeying for position but the engagement isn't technically over, then it's still a good time to check the production tab for a few seconds to see reinforcements. But overall I prefer unit tab as default past the early game.
It seemed like Maru had Harstem pinned with that lengthy siege, but the disruptor harass taxed him enough that he was just completely broke when Harstem finally forced his way through.
I already saw this but I always enjoy Lowko's casting. Harstem's goofy reaction is so adorable. And serious props for taking a bo5 off the 4th race. People who criticise Harstem's play in this game should consider the massive amounts of aggression and multi-pronged harassment from Maru. Harstem probably didn't have time to get to phoenix or the ideal composition, it was tough enough just to survive, and in such a brutal game both players probably thought they were about to lose, a lot, because of not knowing exactly what the opponent has left. Especially near the end when the players had gone from very low supply so had little map vision.
I always wonder, why aren't liberators used for air battles occasionally? They do splash air to air damage, like the ground attack is their bread and butter but adding a few to a viking cluster would allow for good carrier drone killing.
I'm really curious about skytoss in some of this. Why does the protoss not add a Tempest or two? It seems like a great way to force the terran into an engagement in some of those contains with the missile turrets. Also it helps whittle down the viking count when Maru had that viking ball
Tempests are very slow and vulnerable to Vikings when retreating after firing. Carriers can retreat while their interceptors fire at the Vikings, even beyond the range of the Vikings.
@@alexmineru He sent them to harass the left base if you watch the minimap. Had he not back them away, he probably would have still traded enough damage to stop the following push that killed off several bases. Plus he brought them back alone after the turrets and vikings were cleaned up. Fighting as a mass is better than trickling them in.
If you are looking to improve, try watching vibe's bronze to gm series. It'll teach you some important fundamentals that may be missed when watching pro games.
I didn't think Harstem was quite that high up. I mean, I thought he was maybe top #50 or so. Might be because he seems like such a character (just look at that highlight at the end 😂), maybe because he's non-korean, or maybe because he feels more like a 'mortal' because he's Dutch like our Lowko.
I thought Harstem is a robot with an emotion replication interface. And here he bursts with happiness, like he was pretending to be a robot who pretends to be a humanoid all this time.
that was an intense match. would havel iked to see a few ghosts in with those mechs, and i think maru would have won. but GG Harstem, you rock. My Life for Auir!
I love how you go “one of the strongest Terrans when it comes to defense” while Maru now is cemented as the best Terran in all of history 😂 It just feels so weird that this is considered an pretty alright game for the both when this is suuuuuuuch a mismatch nowadays, like how would Maru be able to beat the Captain nowadays??? 🧐
I love seeing this pro games but im not a starcraft player myself, and i always wondered if the 3 races counter each other somehow or if they are balanced to be completely neutral in every matchup. Can someone tell me how the balance of the game works, pls? :)
@@heltan242 Blizzard patches the game so that each match-up (between the races) is roughly even. Obviously, it is never completely even, but it's actually pretty close.
@@t3h8ar0n At the moment it seems to be T>Z>P>Z in term of match up, thats not to say all players in one race beat most players in the other race. It simply mean that one race give more issue to another race with their build. Like Terran players does not like Protoss players because of their trickery build (Proxy stargate, DT drop, Skytoss, ect..), Zerg does not like Terran go Bio Tank/Widow Mine droppping everywhere, and Protoss does not like Zerg overall midgame to lategame "kinda broken" transition
@@pizzacarl6955 nah man never considered that wow to think all this time that was the one detail I was missing somebody should give you a Nobel peace prize
yoink them with vipers. fungal. make a spore forest. terrans can't make a spore forest. a squad of corruptors can focus them one by one. zerg is better at dealing with carriers than terran is
@@N0noy1989 that’s true, it is possible, but difficult to actually pull off and at the same time macro to have an eco advantage which is a requirement since Protoss trades more efficiently and I’m in platinum league so I don’t have all that APM and frequently loose to a carrier ball unless I win with like a 12 pool cheese in the first 3 mins
Why is maru like....so.... I don't think that's maru over therr....i wonder what happens if you make most of ur army with the valkrie? I forgot what terran flying unit is called.
Maru did win this series tho, but this was just the most exciting game of the series! Guess Maru's wins are just him ahm... winning, and just like Serral we did see him win a lot already, so if someone takes a game off them its a bit more exciting I guess.
to be fair i've seen like 10 cast of maru's game and he win like 1game on 10. i would like to see a realy hard game won by maru. it's like he's lacking soemthing or is that me ?
@@etistyle96 it's funny cuz lowko always say Maru is one of if not the best/ most dominant terran player of all time. At the same time, he only cast games where he loses 9 out of 10 times. I say this because I only watch lowko because I like his content not say because I love starcraft 2 (i only played wings of liberty)
They literally are imo. Look at the protoss players right now, air is heavily favoured atm. I think the carrier needs a nerf especially on the health pool of interceptors. One Interceptor is cheaper, is much faster to replace, has more health and deals more damage than a freaking marine with combat shields and stimpack, lol.
@@jonasdreixler3044 well,carrier cost is very big,and no one toss win major tournament since 2018,nerf toss is a bad thing,terran and zerg win all tournament,i was joking when i writted my message,toss looks imba but ,if we take a look to pro player result, no one toss win major tournament -zerg 3k4/toss 3k3
@@azertyazeuiopazert2235 Im with you that Protoss needed the buffs. Terrans and Zerg are all over the place. But right now, I think the carrier-voidray combo with some ground reinforcements will be heavily used and by that frustrate a lot of people. The biggest advante would be to kite the voids and carriers with hit-and-run, but basically void rays are as fast as Vikings on default, and with there new upgrade, even faster then both the viking and the cyclone. Your're basically dead against someone who literally A-moves, while you tear your wrist apart. I am complaining because a lot of protoss are using air right now, which is hard to break.
Already seen this match, harstems reaction at the end was priceless 😂
always, I remember he dance when he win a game in a losing match. immediately a fan. lol.
Me too
Man that is such pure joy on his face. Good to see happiness. :)
In what videos does he play this game?
This put Harstem 2:1 lead, but sadly he lost next two games. He did not go for Skytoss in those.
I love how Harstem was attacking the rocks with the Carriers to get the Interceptors to launch, which allows the Carriers to use their leash range and eliminates the ability of vikings to kite them. It makes such a huge difference!
now i understand why he did that :D
@@chrisultra8886 Yeah :) Carriers with launched Interceptors essentially have 14 range (vs 9 for viking), so it's a great move. Reminds me of Wings of Liberty when everyone was charging their voids on the rocks pre-battle.
broodlord don't like this message
everybody's mind : "i wonder who's gonna win ?"
my mind : "i wonder how much "not enough mineral" do they hear at 500apm in one base eco at 25min"
Oh God, I never even considered that. That's awful, lol!
I would imagine most of their apm is actually useful and accurate. In the day9 micro video he talks about how most of the apm is tabbing production 3 4 5 6, location hotkeys f2 f3 f4 and army micro and management.
Beating grandmasters with stupid stuff: mass carrier against terran.
Beating a GOAT with stupid stuff
Interesting how useful the mother ship is against Terran. Virtually useless against Zerg with Vipers.
@@leonac3524 Against terran it's less useful because usually there are plenty of scans, and beyond providing cloaking mothership isn't very useful.
@@michaelbuckers But she does force scans though, which denies them $$$$... Or Ravens, which are very gas heavy. Either way Terran would rather not be fighting cloaked units, even late game...
@@ZC.Andrew damn, never thought of this, since in bronze league, where I am, no one builds mobile detection or orbitals, so a mothership is nearly a free win!
Harstem was like
best comment of all xD
17:11 Bob the BRAVEST SCV attacks the last remaining Disruptor.
Watch the mini-map as he valiantly chases this Devious Disruptor back to where it belongs!!
17:40 Bob blows up.
Lowko, I wish you followed Brave Bob's story :'(
"What'd you run out of Marines?"
That slipped out of my attention! I just wondered what blew up there. Thought: "was there another rock, like the ones under the ramp from main to natural?"
Worth noting that Bob took half the shields off of that Disruptor. He truly was a brave, special SCV. Good catch.
I've come back to this match and watched it about 7 times by now, it is by far my favorite match of SC2 ever.
Harstem's face speaks volumes of how the game actually played out in his head.
Brilliant.
Harstem is such a cool guy :) Love his plays.
yeah really smart and a great sense of humor
27:57 This part of my life... this little part is called happyness...
I an waiting Maru to post this replay to “Is it IMBA or am I suck”
And then Lowko will chime in on the video and say "Maru........ YOU SUCK!!!!"
@@ZC.Andrew I think he would rather be like: "Maru... I dreamt for this moment for years. Let me speak slowly to savor every moment of it. Maaaruuu... Yooouuu SUCK!!!"
Well Carriers are imba
@@spaceon_fr vs Terran?!?! I think not. We rarely see Carriers take down pro Terrans. They just happen to nicely counter the comp Maru chose, that's all.
@@spaceon_fr yeah big Slow targets that take forever to make = imba. nice2
Good grief was that center battle scrappy! I hope we can see more fights like this in the future!
Great casting. I couldn't digest wintersc's cast as he adds way too much unrelated narration and is too loud. Keep up the great work and call outs!
I agree. I got tired of him pretty quickly.
27:56 Harstem 😑>😯>😟>😳>😃
Bro! That reaction of Harstem though! 😂😂😂
Interesting how useful the mother ship is against Terran. Virtually useless against Zerg with Vipers.
That abduct should not work against her..... She costs 400 gas!!
@@ZC.Andrew abduct go brrr
The way Harstem was massing Carriers at the beginning, I felt like this was an episode of Diamond League Heroes.
I am honestly baffled there were no Tempests with the anti-ground upgrade in this - they could've nuked all those widow mines and missile turrets from a safe distance, forcing the terran to engage forward, right? Like, just add 3 tempest to that stalemate and you are constantly doing damage, forcing a reaction.
Best Protoss game I've watched in a long time. Initial siege from maru was so agressive. Harstem handled it beautifully.
For casting it probably helps most to see what's coming next, but since you mentioned going back to the unit tab because nothing was really being built... overall while watching I MUCH rather see units than the production tab. Especially after 6-7 minutes or so. Especially for the battles.
When an engagement is OVER, and are reinforcing/remaxing then THAT'S when I want to see the production tab to see what the next plan is.
If they lost some units and are jockeying for position but the engagement isn't technically over, then it's still a good time to check the production tab for a few seconds to see reinforcements. But overall I prefer unit tab as default past the early game.
"Cant really afford it right now" Harstem floating 1500 minerals.
He needs the minerals for Carriers and you need gas for twilight council.
@@rozmarinideas5340 still its not much for a twilight.
It seemed like Maru had Harstem pinned with that lengthy siege, but the disruptor harass taxed him enough that he was just completely broke when Harstem finally forced his way through.
I already saw this but I always enjoy Lowko's casting. Harstem's goofy reaction is so adorable. And serious props for taking a bo5 off the 4th race. People who criticise Harstem's play in this game should consider the massive amounts of aggression and multi-pronged harassment from Maru. Harstem probably didn't have time to get to phoenix or the ideal composition, it was tough enough just to survive, and in such a brutal game both players probably thought they were about to lose, a lot, because of not knowing exactly what the opponent has left. Especially near the end when the players had gone from very low supply so had little map vision.
I’m in the middle of rewatching the sc2 campaign. Abathur is a great character.
He’s my favorite
The Best character
Great. Not perfect. Perfection unreachable.
@@KatzenminzeWarVergeben Perfection attainable. Need more sequences.
I always wonder, why aren't liberators used for air battles occasionally? They do splash air to air damage, like the ground attack is their bread and butter but adding a few to a viking cluster would allow for good carrier drone killing.
23:14 lol that’s a lot of probes going down
What an amazing game by Harstem. Live was insane
I'm really curious about skytoss in some of this. Why does the protoss not add a Tempest or two? It seems like a great way to force the terran into an engagement in some of those contains with the missile turrets. Also it helps whittle down the viking count when Maru had that viking ball
Tempests are very slow and vulnerable to Vikings when retreating after firing. Carriers can retreat while their interceptors fire at the Vikings, even beyond the range of the Vikings.
I didnt know Harstem was from the Netherlands too, do you guys talk to each other in engine noises?
engine noises? because NL is an industrial country or what?
@@kognitiveresonanz3562 Someone remarked once on twitch that dutch sounded like engine noises and that stuck with me
@@P3d3r0s0 Duut Duut. Wrum ops Chihioo. That was "how was your day". Does that sound engine-like to you?
@@kognitiveresonanz3562 yes
@@kognitiveresonanz3562 Like a very, very badly tuned engine, yes. It does!
14:28 was the big mistake for Maru in pulling the cyclones away from the battle. That's what allowed Harstem to break his position so easily.
he did that because he couldn't contest the carrier mass
@@alexmineru He sent them to harass the left base if you watch the minimap. Had he not back them away, he probably would have still traded enough damage to stop the following push that killed off several bases. Plus he brought them back alone after the turrets and vikings were cleaned up. Fighting as a mass is better than trickling them in.
What a great game! Had my blood pressure going crazy the whole game.
Is it wrong that when lowko gave the "127 and 85 workers killed" count I desperately wanted him to try and add the numbers together and fuck it up?
Did siege tanks shoot up in SC1?
Harstem is just awesome, he’s so much fun to watch 🤣
damnit, i hate it when my mouse hovers over the end of the video and i catch a glimpse of who wins
This is why I watch on mobile. Harder to get the end results without accidentally skipping to the end.
Terrans can save a lot of minerals if they move the old bases to new locations instead of building new ones.
This was such a sick game
How does he get that replay interface?
Harstem's reaction is soooo cute :))))
Is it me or is the music and the sound effects more prominent in this video? I like it
Anyone has Harstem main stream or page or anything?
Hell yeah Harstem and Maru .. what a match!
This was legit fun as heck to watch!
I just started playing Starcraft 2 so your vids are helping me learn the game
Just play like [add progamer].
If you are looking to improve, try watching vibe's bronze to gm series. It'll teach you some important fundamentals that may be missed when watching pro games.
don't carriers get +2 attack for every upgrade since the interceptor attacks twice?
In the words of harstem “Lowko, you suck”
Don't forget the finish mini golf amateur
Hahahaha isnt it that harstem looks like lowko? Haha amazing reaction lol
@@pooyataleb2514 Doesn't he enjoy Starcraft in his free time?
Near the end of the game, Harstem thought he was going in for a suicide hit before gg, instead he won, LOL!!
I see the majestic thumbnail, and I clicked in. Lowko, you have gradually learned the secrete to wealth.
I didn't think Harstem was quite that high up. I mean, I thought he was maybe top #50 or so. Might be because he seems like such a character (just look at that highlight at the end 😂), maybe because he's non-korean, or maybe because he feels more like a 'mortal' because he's Dutch like our Lowko.
10:08 "He got three carriers at this point." ... and one of them is destroyed immediately...
Resources loss diff is 80 minerals btw
Outstanding game! This is why I love watch SF2.
i'v been learning time and time again , harstem is a beast.
a small group of cyclones takes down a nexus in seconds. THATS OP
Cyclones + scan = OP
Keep up the great work
Harstem Is My Heroo..:0*Wow*Maru:)
I love lowko and harstem so when lowko cast harstem's game i click do fast!
I thought Harstem is a robot with an emotion replication interface. And here he bursts with happiness, like he was pretending to be a robot who pretends to be a humanoid all this time.
that was an intense match. would havel iked to see a few ghosts in with those mechs, and i think maru would have won. but GG Harstem, you rock. My Life for Auir!
Thanks for the episode~
game of the year
I love how you go “one of the strongest Terrans when it comes to defense” while Maru now is cemented as the best Terran in all of history 😂 It just feels so weird that this is considered an pretty alright game for the both when this is suuuuuuuch a mismatch nowadays, like how would Maru be able to beat the Captain nowadays??? 🧐
Hello Lowko! Hug from Brazil 🇧🇷!
I love that Harstem was about to gg, but Maru was faster. One of the rare times being slower pays off.
Oh yes the imba guy
A cool match i really wanted maru to win just to see more terran players playing mech
Then watch this full series of Maru vs Harstem :)
The question is, if Harstem was about to gg, what does happen if both of them GG at the same time ?
That would have been soooo funny ^^
What a game!
Imagine if void ray
this game is awesome
Last time I was this early the video was in 240p. Also who is talking I have no idea? :P
yesterday i played a couple of games as terran and one of my ghosts got 48 worker kills
BGMusic kinda too loud
This is why you should Fantasy gg
Maru’s slow pushes disgust me lol, it’s really smart by him and if I was hard ten I would go out of anger lol
Maru wasted at least 2k minerals not canceling missle turrets. Didn't seem too smart to build with the carriers right there.
Wooohooo! This should be a fun one!
Hi Lowko, how are you?
I love seeing this pro games but im not a starcraft player myself, and i always wondered if the 3 races counter each other somehow or if they are balanced to be completely neutral in every matchup. Can someone tell me how the balance of the game works, pls? :)
@@t3h8ar0n That seems even harder than i thought :o Thanks for the answer
@@heltan242 Blizzard patches the game so that each match-up (between the races) is roughly even. Obviously, it is never completely even, but it's actually pretty close.
@@t3h8ar0n At the moment it seems to be T>Z>P>Z in term of match up, thats not to say all players in one race beat most players in the other race. It simply mean that one race give more issue to another race with their build. Like Terran players does not like Protoss players because of their trickery build (Proxy stargate, DT drop, Skytoss, ect..), Zerg does not like Terran go Bio Tank/Widow Mine droppping everywhere, and Protoss does not like Zerg overall midgame to lategame "kinda broken" transition
as a zerg player not even a terran, protoss late game is op asf so frustrating, build 15 carriers, A move to all opponents bases and its gg
Have you considered killing the carriers
@@pizzacarl6955 nah man never considered that wow to think all this time that was the one detail I was missing somebody should give you a Nobel peace prize
yoink them with vipers. fungal. make a spore forest. terrans can't make a spore forest. a squad of corruptors can focus them one by one. zerg is better at dealing with carriers than terran is
@@N0noy1989 that’s true, it is possible, but difficult to actually pull off and at the same time macro to have an eco advantage which is a requirement since Protoss trades more efficiently and I’m in platinum league so I don’t have all that APM and frequently loose to a carrier ball unless I win with like a 12 pool cheese in the first 3 mins
Yes! De Koning!
Why is maru like....so.... I don't think that's maru over therr....i wonder what happens if you make most of ur army with the valkrie? I forgot what terran flying unit is called.
Liberator? They are only good against Ground unit, their air-to-air is not good like Valkyrie.
The one transformer craft...is it the valkrie? What happens if one uses all of them?
Seeing carriers remind me of Starcraft broodwar loool
"I haven't seen a lot of Mech lately"
Lowko, go to Scotland!
tell me, what's there, please. I live in a village, sort of (
Awesome game!
in 2 v 2 cyclone lock on and oracal revelation op
Why is losing against protoss death ball an unexpected result?
idk but everytime lowko cast a game between maru vs someone or someone vs maru... its always maru loses
Maru did win this series tho, but this was just the most exciting game of the series! Guess Maru's wins are just him ahm... winning, and just like Serral we did see him win a lot already, so if someone takes a game off them its a bit more exciting I guess.
to be fair i've seen like 10 cast of maru's game and he win like 1game on 10. i would like to see a realy hard game won by maru. it's like he's lacking soemthing or is that me ?
@@etistyle96 it's funny cuz lowko always say Maru is one of if not the best/ most dominant terran player of all time. At the same time, he only cast games where he loses 9 out of 10 times.
I say this because I only watch lowko because I like his content not say because I love starcraft 2
(i only played wings of liberty)
Seems balance if you ask me.
Hey lowko can we have a cast In Dutch? Would make my life! Vriendelijk groeten van Maastricht 😉
Fun game
Harstem ha battuto il suo eroe... É incredulo 👻👻👻
Is it imba or does Maru suck?
Skytoss imba as hell, lol
@@tigera6 It goes both ways Carriers with upgrades are OP but Turtle Terran with Tanks and Turrents are just as bad haha
@@marcomarin1196 But you cant take the map with turtle style, because Protoss will mine 2-3 more base than Terran.
Carrier are imba or do i suck
They literally are imo. Look at the protoss players right now, air is heavily favoured atm. I think the carrier needs a nerf especially on the health pool of interceptors. One Interceptor is cheaper, is much faster to replace, has more health and deals more damage than a freaking marine with combat shields and stimpack, lol.
@@jonasdreixler3044 well,carrier cost is very big,and no one toss win major tournament since 2018,nerf toss is a bad thing,terran and zerg win all tournament,i was joking when i writted my message,toss looks imba but ,if we take a look to pro player result, no one toss win major tournament
-zerg 3k4/toss 3k3
@@azertyazeuiopazert2235 Im with you that Protoss needed the buffs. Terrans and Zerg are all over the place. But right now, I think the carrier-voidray combo with some ground reinforcements will be heavily used and by that frustrate a lot of people. The biggest advante would be to kite the voids and carriers with hit-and-run, but basically void rays are as fast as Vikings on default, and with there new upgrade, even faster then both the viking and the cyclone. Your're basically dead against someone who literally A-moves, while you tear your wrist apart. I am complaining because a lot of protoss are using air right now, which is hard to break.
I think Maru was lost in hunting-the-white-whale in the middle of the game and he shared the fate with good ol' Ahab. But Im just a observing herring.
I don’t understand how that was unexpected?
52010 to 52090 resources lost...talk about a close game.
It was an even fight, all come down to Maru losing his last CC. Otherwise Harstem would have gg.
Epic.
I had seen the ending, but at 22 min or so it seemed impossible
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