What Mocha feature do you want to learn about next? :D Also, TIME STAMPS: 1:41 Rotoscoping Fundamentals & Challenges 4:02 Mocha Pro Setup 5:04 Magnetic Layer & Freehand Tools 7:40 Edge Snapping
Wow awesome! Thank you for good vids XD I have mocha pro previous version : D Next time, Please let me know how to remove the wire with Mocha Pro. I recently tried removing the wire. But the background was not natural and the wire reappeared for a few seconds. I want to know the perfect wire removal technique. please. : )
I’m new to Mocha and have tried using the version that comes with AE and it frustrated me. But with these pro features, I’m going to consider purchasing... Keep these awesome tutorials coming.
Thank you :) Yup, you can save time by only rotoscoping the exact parts you need. I generally go a bit further in case I want to change my composition or reposition elements behind what I've rotoscoped without having to re-rotoscope anything. Plus, I felt it showed the new tools a bit better in this tutorial :D
Wow. It is very useful tutorial. Please can you make a tutorial to teach how to roto a hair in mocha pro. Because it is looks like very compicated when they have a curly hair. Thanks you.
Hi,, I would love to see how you make adjustments in AE after you have applied your tracking data to a comp ? I’m adjusting mine by going into the comp with the insert in and making adjustments there but you can’t see your adjustments until you go back into main comp ? Is there an easier way ?? Any help would be great thank you
The magnetic spline tool follows high contrast areas. If you placed a contrast effect on the video, and boosted the contrast significantly, would the magnetic spline tool be more efficient? After you roto everything out, you could turn the contrast off. Is that possible?
How to show alpha and feather add to edges splines in Mocha pro while Rotoscoping sir? Please sir replying any cool tips and answer for these !!! Hi sir myself Rony, i'm a VFX student from India
Can i do hair Rotoscopy in mocha pro new version. In Silhouette there is a tool 'open spline' which is very good for hair roto. Can you please tell me how can i roto hair in mocha pro?
Here's some tips on how to rotoscope hair in Mocha: forum.borisfx.com/t/hair-rotoscope/4405/4 You're likely much better off shooting in front of a green screen or using tools such as Silhouette (or the Refine Edge tool in After Effects)
Great totorial! I'm little confused for this though: in Mocha shapes are merely where to "search" information for trakcing, and keyframing a shape is not equivalent to changing the tracking at that point in time (adjust track function is what does that right?), how did you change the shape directly to fix the tracking?
You can adjust the shape at any point in time, it will create a new keyframe. Note that if you 'track' it will use whatever the current shape is to generate (or update) the tracking data. But you are correct in that the shapes are simple attached to the tracking data, but they do not represent the actual track itself - if that makes sense :)
I hope I get around to more at some point :) For the time being I am focused a little more on Blender, but hopefully will do more Houdini in the future
Hi bro Thank you for awsome tutorial One more request can you please do a tutorial on mocha match moving I thinks it's based on BCC particles I have found a great site called Hollywood Camara works they providing match moving footage but I don't have a guide to teach me . If possible can you do so Thank you
clicking on the magnetic spline tool again does not reveal the detail adjustment feature. I cannot for the life of me locate an option to enable it. Any help?
you saved me man but when i try to use mocha my mocha pro 2021 os too slow i dont know why i have a clip less than 5 seconds but will take time to render any help
Thank you for this awesome tutorial this is really helpful for me. I want to buy a graphics card Nvidia 1050 ti for my VFX work . This graphics card was helpful for me ? can you tell me please sir ?
@@SurfacedStudio actually I am a VFX student and I cannot afford expensive graphics cards. For this reason, I looking specifically at this type of low budget graphics card. Would a GTX 1050 Ti be enough for light animation (MAYA, C4D, AE, etc) and video editing (Premiere Pro)?
If the Rotobrush is pants waht would you say the best way to rotoscope in AE is?....the AE mocha plugin (i cant afford the Pro version, right now) Danke Herr
Even if you don't have the Pro version, I'd still (personally) use Mocha AE for my rotoscoping work :) ruclips.net/video/5xo0905z3jg/видео.html I'm just not a big fan of the rotobrush tool. You could also try to use some rough masks and Extract effects or a Difference Matte (after stabilising the footage)
@@SurfacedStudio Ahh but not if it was implemented properly. example, you have FULL control over the behavior such as frame ranges, you could paint "weights" on how much snap influence, as well as weight the curve influences from one point across in-between points. and also like in modeling how you can paint "relax" the mesh.. you could paint out the influence over time..
As long as it meets the minimum requirements for the programs you intend to run you should be fine :) GPU still only plays a very TINY role in actual performance for 3D or video editing - a strong CPU, SSDs and plenty of RAM likely pay back the most in terms of performance
I don't know if it's 'easier' and I haven't used all the other available packages either so I'm not really in a position to make a fair comparison. I like Mocha over using hand animated masks or the Rotobrush tool. I'm hoping to try out Silhouette Paint soon as well which is supposed to be a common tool used in the industry
@@SurfacedStudio Thank you for replying. I have been using Silhouette 2020 past couple of days, and to be honest its pretty good for doing Roto and also has Mocha integrated for tracking too. My wild guess is that if you get most of the tools working together in Silhouette 2020 ( which I am trying to figure out), I think it is possible to get a perfect Roto within a matter of a couple of minutes. I will let you know if I discover anything interesting in that context. Looking forward to your tutorial on Silhouette Paint. Keep the tutorials coming, they are really good . Cheers
Yeah, some features are only available in the Pro version unfortunately. Mocha AE is pretty awesome all on its own though, but some of the advanced stuff is for the paid version only
Why is it more efficient to roto a bunch of body parts and rescrub through each part as opposed to doing his whole body at once and tracking only once?
Because you will need less keyframes per shape. If you try to roto the entire body in one shape you'll likely end up with one keyframe per frame - which will be a horror to manage. You can always give it a shot and see how that compares - best way to learn sometimes is to just try :)
Thanks for info. Rotoscoping is a pain. I do wonder why if snapping is so helpful why isn't it enabled during the initial track? Seems like an obvious thing to enable to make better tracks the first time saving more time.
Personally I can understand why it's not - it's the same issue that the rotobrush tool has. Automatically guessing movement is hard so it's likely to go wrong (a lot) and stopping / fixing / correcting after the fact is often more work than just cleaning up with on-demand snapping when needed :) But that's just my opinion
Unfortunately Mocha Pro is not available for Premiere Pro. However, the Boris FX Suite, which is available for Premiere Pro, includes a lot of Mocha Tracking / Masking tools in their effects lineup :)
After Effects does not use your graphics card much so quite honestly it isn't all that important. ruclips.net/video/nvZORXtbRng/видео.html To be future proof I'd get an NVIDIA with a fair amount of CUDA codes in case AE ever gets bit of love in the GPU acceleration department. Also, a fair few plugins that you can get for AE use CUDA / OpenCL so it certainly won't hurt. Go as high on the GTX 1060/70/80 scala as you can comfortably afford. I'd put more money towards RAM, SSDs and CPU though
These features are specific to the Pro version of the plugin unfortunately. You get a lot of great stuff for free in Mocha AE, but magnetic splines and edge snapping are (at least at the moment) limited to the Pro version
using rotobrush in less contrast areas and mocha magnetic brush in completely more contrast area is a bit problematic in this video. How about using magnetic brush on his shirt but not in pants. That would be a good review. I like all your tutorials -i think you are one of the best in youtube - but this one i put a question mark..
I used auto-snapping on the shirt as well and that worked pretty well except for the overhang over the side of the pants which are very blurry :) Rotobrush is likely still going to chatter (and be slow to propagate) even on something as clearly defined as the pants, but do feel free to give it a shot. The tutorial was a lot longer (the part where I roto all the other parts was actually recorded), but I ended up collapsing it because it was getting too boringly long :D
In my opinion, it is still very difficult to implement with the best method or techniques. Im just wonder why is Mocha haven't implement the AI technology in their product? It could be more easier and useful to users generally.
More AI / automation comes into Mocha with every release. Getting it to work well is difficult (see Rotobrush or Content Aware Fill in AE) but lots of companies are working on it :)
AE is more focused on the layer-style compositing and motion graphics it’s gotten popular for :) At least you have Mocha AE included for free so you can use that anytime you want!
Mocha is a very powerful tracking tool used by professionals all over the world - and with good reason :) But it's not an easy tool to learn and can feel kinda like "it just doesn't work" if you're not familiar with its workflow, features and quirks. I have a beginner tutorial series here that might help - but of course you're welcome to stick to frame-by-frame work in PP or PS if that works better for you :) ruclips.net/video/rgwFQDWOKgs/видео.html
@@SurfacedStudio thanks a lot...maybe you could give me a tip how i could track an airplane after using the magnetic selection tool..i guess i have to do several selections and put them later all together as one selection?
Depends a bit on the size of the airplane in the shot and what sort of movement/track you are after. Remember Mocha is a planar tracker so shapes shouldn’t include multiple planes or your tracking will fail. Check out the playlist I Pinkes, in particular the video on tracking people/advanced rotoscoping that shows how to break up more complex shapes
![09a Basics of Roto - Getting Started [Mocha Essentials]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vjV0lNF8mfY/mqdefault.jpg)
What Mocha feature do you want to learn about next? :D
Also, TIME STAMPS:
1:41 Rotoscoping Fundamentals & Challenges
4:02 Mocha Pro Setup
5:04 Magnetic Layer & Freehand Tools
7:40 Edge Snapping
Wow awesome!
Thank you for good vids XD
I have mocha pro previous version : D
Next time, Please let me know how to remove the wire with Mocha Pro.
I recently tried removing the wire.
But the background was not natural and the wire reappeared for a few seconds. I want to know the perfect wire removal technique. please. : )
Thank you for your comment :) I will put it onto my todo list of Mocha tutorials to create!
@@SurfacedStudio Thank you : )
this is a free version though.
I asked a question on facebook you didnt replay please check inbox of facebook
You've saved my life with this Alt+S... Many THAAAANKS!
Glad you found it helpful :)
Man, you've gotten so good over the years! Keep up the great work with these tutorials. I always learn a ton!
Ah nonsense, but thank you for the kind words :) Hopefully will be making many more!
Another Great Mocha Pro Tutorial. Thanks Tobias
No worries at all David :) Thank you for the comment!
That helped me so much , thank you
Glad to hear you found it helpful!
Nicely done! Highly digestible as usual. Excellent work, Toby. ✌️👍👍✌️
Thank you very much for the great feedback Tom! Much appreciated :D
Thankssssssss a fricking ton this is helpful for premiere pro users as well!
Glad to hear :D
Yeah! I am working hard in the same thing before this video today. I really love to rotoscoping by Mocha Pro.
:D I'm a big fan of Mocha for roto work
I really just love that guy! Great tutorials, thank You!
Ah shucks! Just glad you enjoyed the video :D
I’m new to Mocha and have tried using the version that comes with AE and it frustrated me. But with these pro features, I’m going to consider purchasing... Keep these awesome tutorials coming.
Yes using mocha pro is really good, and it really does a good job tracking and rotoscoping. Much better than the normal Ae roto.
Very cool video man, thank you very much! Subbed
Thank you, glad to hear you liked it!
Awesome tutorial buddy
Kindly make this tutorial by using green screen technique so that we can better understand the difference between the two
Thank you! I got multiple green screen tutorials on my channel already, here's one of them: ruclips.net/video/GvmVwNSU6j8/видео.html
THIS IS A GAME CHANGER!
I really like the edge snapping feature :) Keen to see what will come next!
YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!
Ah shucks! Glad you liked it though :)
Good tutorial. A tip: only rotoscope the small part where you want to fire
Thank you :) Yup, you can save time by only rotoscoping the exact parts you need. I generally go a bit further in case I want to change my composition or reposition elements behind what I've rotoscoped without having to re-rotoscope anything. Plus, I felt it showed the new tools a bit better in this tutorial :D
Wow. It is very useful tutorial. Please can you make a tutorial to teach how to roto a hair in mocha pro. Because it is looks like very compicated when they have a curly hair. Thanks you.
So Useful
Thanks for Sharing MAN
You’re welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Since Roto brush 2 is here whats ur expert opinion when to use mocha and when to use roto brush 2
Very informative tutorial
😍
Glad you liked it :)
Hi,, I would love to see how you make adjustments in AE after you have applied your tracking data to a comp ? I’m adjusting mine by going into the comp with the insert in and making adjustments there but you can’t see your adjustments until you go back into main comp ? Is there an easier way ?? Any help would be great thank you
The magnetic spline tool follows high contrast areas. If you placed a contrast effect on the video, and boosted the contrast significantly, would the magnetic spline tool be more efficient? After you roto everything out, you could turn the contrast off. Is that possible?
Sure, that technique is often done with motion / camera tracking too and can work very well :)
Great video thank you so much!
You are very welcome :) Thank you for the comment!
hi.i dont have (detail) in meno of mocha pro 2020!
After masking in Mocha, can you control the mask with everything else such as position, scale, rotation, and apply motion blur/effects?
Yes, you can easily convert your Mocha masks to AE masks and then do anything with/to them that you like :)
WOW!!! So good!!! Thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it :D
@@SurfacedStudio Brief, informative and useful! Of course loved it.
Thank u so much it was very useful tip
You're welcome :)
How to show alpha and feather add to edges splines in Mocha pro while Rotoscoping sir? Please sir replying any cool tips and answer for these !!! Hi sir myself Rony, i'm a VFX student from India
miss you teacher
Always here :)
Thanku so much 😍
Welcome 😊
Can i do hair Rotoscopy in mocha pro new version. In Silhouette there is a tool 'open spline' which is very good for hair roto. Can you please tell me how can i roto hair in mocha pro?
Here's some tips on how to rotoscope hair in Mocha: forum.borisfx.com/t/hair-rotoscope/4405/4 You're likely much better off shooting in front of a green screen or using tools such as Silhouette (or the Refine Edge tool in After Effects)
Awesome
:D
Great totorial! I'm little confused for this though: in Mocha shapes are merely where to "search" information for trakcing, and keyframing a shape is not equivalent to changing the tracking at that point in time (adjust track function is what does that right?), how did you change the shape directly to fix the tracking?
You can adjust the shape at any point in time, it will create a new keyframe. Note that if you 'track' it will use whatever the current shape is to generate (or update) the tracking data. But you are correct in that the shapes are simple attached to the tracking data, but they do not represent the actual track itself - if that makes sense :)
Nice tutorial there thanks for the effort.
You are very welcome :)
And a happy new year to you tobias or surfacedstudio
A happy new year to you too :D
excelente!
Thank you :D
I WANT MORE HOUDINI TUTORIALS!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
I hope I get around to more at some point :) For the time being I am focused a little more on Blender, but hopefully will do more Houdini in the future
Wow.. great features. Nice tutorial
Thank you :D
The edge snapping tool is making it more hard
Depends on how you use it :) For a lot of my shots it's making it WAY easier!
@@SurfacedStudio got it
2020 tiktok does this better as 1-click solution. VFX suites really have to catch up!
Hi bro
Thank you for awsome tutorial
One more request can you please do a tutorial on mocha match moving I thinks it's based on BCC particles
I have found a great site called
Hollywood Camara works they providing match moving footage but I don't have a guide to teach me . If possible can you do so
Thank you
Thank you for the comment :) I do want to make tons more Mocha tutorials - just need to find the time to sit down and do it hehe
will you make tutorial on area brush tool in mocha pro 2020.
There will be more tutorials for Mocha for sure - what topics exactly I'll cover I'm not yet sure though :)
clicking on the magnetic spline tool again does not reveal the detail adjustment feature. I cannot for the life of me locate an option to enable it. Any help?
Installed 2020.5 but the AE plugin doesn't have the magnetic tool. Only the standalone version does. Why?
The magnetic spline is a part of the Mocha Pro plugin, it's unfortunately not included in the free Mocha AE version
you saved me man but when i try to use mocha my mocha pro 2021 os too slow i dont know why i have a clip less than 5 seconds but will take time to render any help
What resolution is your clip? Try playing it back once in Mocha - it’ll get cached in memory (if you have enough RAM)
Thank you for this awesome tutorial this is really helpful for me. I want to buy a graphics card Nvidia 1050 ti for my VFX work . This graphics card was helpful for me ? can you tell me please sir ?
Why are you looking specifically at that card? What exactly do you intend to do in terms of VFX work? What programs what sort of work (e.g. 3D?)
@@SurfacedStudio actually I am a VFX student and I cannot afford expensive graphics cards. For this reason, I looking specifically at this type of low budget graphics card. Would a GTX 1050 Ti be enough for light animation (MAYA, C4D, AE, etc) and video editing (Premiere Pro)?
If the Rotobrush is pants waht would you say the best way to rotoscope in AE is?....the AE mocha plugin (i cant afford the Pro version, right now) Danke Herr
Even if you don't have the Pro version, I'd still (personally) use Mocha AE for my rotoscoping work :) ruclips.net/video/5xo0905z3jg/видео.html I'm just not a big fan of the rotobrush tool. You could also try to use some rough masks and Extract effects or a Difference Matte (after stabilising the footage)
And if I wanted to apply color effects of ofx presets on moving person like in video ? How to do it ?
Separate the person from the background using rotoscoping and then apply the effect only to the person :)
never understood why mocha doesnt do the autosnap for every frame. it looks to work rather well so why not?
Sometimes you may not want it - also, if it starts to slip it’s harder to correct if it auto generated keyframes potentially :)
@@SurfacedStudio Ahh but not if it was implemented properly. example, you have FULL control over the behavior such as frame ranges, you could paint "weights" on how much snap influence, as well as weight the curve influences from one point across in-between points. and also like in modeling how you can paint "relax" the mesh.. you could paint out the influence over time..
What are your Device's Spec ?
Kindly Please Reply
I talk about my current specs here: ruclips.net/video/iqU4FyOs9uk/видео.html It keeps changing as I change machines
Would a GTX 1050 Ti be enough for light animation (MAYA, C4D, AE, etc) and video editing (Premiere Pro)?
As long as it meets the minimum requirements for the programs you intend to run you should be fine :) GPU still only plays a very TINY role in actual performance for 3D or video editing - a strong CPU, SSDs and plenty of RAM likely pay back the most in terms of performance
@@SurfacedStudio thank you sir
Is Mocha Pro easier for Rotoscoping compared to other software ?. I'm kinda confused because there are so many applications for Roto.
I don't know if it's 'easier' and I haven't used all the other available packages either so I'm not really in a position to make a fair comparison. I like Mocha over using hand animated masks or the Rotobrush tool. I'm hoping to try out Silhouette Paint soon as well which is supposed to be a common tool used in the industry
@@SurfacedStudio Thank you for replying. I have been using Silhouette 2020 past couple of days, and to be honest its pretty good for doing Roto and also has Mocha integrated for tracking too. My wild guess is that if you get most of the tools working together in Silhouette 2020 ( which I am trying to figure out), I think it is possible to get a perfect Roto within a matter of a couple of minutes. I will let you know if I discover anything interesting in that context. Looking forward to your tutorial on Silhouette Paint. Keep the tutorials coming, they are really good . Cheers
ahhh I get it you have to buy it as a seperate plugin....shame its not part of the out of the box AE Mocha. Thanks
Yeah, some features are only available in the Pro version unfortunately. Mocha AE is pretty awesome all on its own though, but some of the advanced stuff is for the paid version only
i cant see the detail slider for me
What version are you using? If you're using Mocha AE, check out this tutorial series here: ruclips.net/video/rgwFQDWOKgs/видео.html
Why is it more efficient to roto a bunch of body parts and rescrub through each part as opposed to doing his whole body at once and tracking only once?
Because you will need less keyframes per shape. If you try to roto the entire body in one shape you'll likely end up with one keyframe per frame - which will be a horror to manage. You can always give it a shot and see how that compares - best way to learn sometimes is to just try :)
Thanks for info. Rotoscoping is a pain. I do wonder why if snapping is so helpful why isn't it enabled during the initial track? Seems like an obvious thing to enable to make better tracks the first time saving more time.
Personally I can understand why it's not - it's the same issue that the rotobrush tool has. Automatically guessing movement is hard so it's likely to go wrong (a lot) and stopping / fixing / correcting after the fact is often more work than just cleaning up with on-demand snapping when needed :) But that's just my opinion
Hmm..ok, then maybe a check box to enable/disable. It appears to work well so as an option would be a time saver.
Not gonna lie I kinda like doin roto work 😶
Hahaha, could yourself one of the lucky ones then :D
Can this work in Premiere pro
Unfortunately Mocha Pro is not available for Premiere Pro. However, the Boris FX Suite, which is available for Premiere Pro, includes a lot of Mocha Tracking / Masking tools in their effects lineup :)
@@SurfacedStudio it's available for premiere pro, I'm using it, but what I don't know is I can mask or remove background with it
Is there a reason you don't use Silhouette?
Haven't used it before because I don't own it :) I might be able to give it a shot fairly soon-ish though
Which Graphics card have you installed for editing in after effects.Can u recommend me one?
After Effects does not use your graphics card much so quite honestly it isn't all that important. ruclips.net/video/nvZORXtbRng/видео.html To be future proof I'd get an NVIDIA with a fair amount of CUDA codes in case AE ever gets bit of love in the GPU acceleration department. Also, a fair few plugins that you can get for AE use CUDA / OpenCL so it certainly won't hurt. Go as high on the GTX 1060/70/80 scala as you can comfortably afford. I'd put more money towards RAM, SSDs and CPU though
HI I think I have the latest AE installed in the CC app but I dont see the new magnetic tool? is tis just about to come out? Thanks Tobias
These features are specific to the Pro version of the plugin unfortunately. You get a lot of great stuff for free in Mocha AE, but magnetic splines and edge snapping are (at least at the moment) limited to the Pro version
this tutorial is different from my mocha pro. I do not have that detail number to change anywhere on my version!
What 'detail number' are you referring to? Also, are you using the Classic interface?
Niceeeeeeeeeee
Thank you!
Me: iam having aproblem masking >.<
Solution: "Alt and S" :D
With Edge Snapping that is not necessarily a wrong answer any more :D
ALT+S EVERYTHING!
using rotobrush in less contrast areas and mocha magnetic brush in completely more contrast area is a bit problematic in this video. How about using magnetic brush on his shirt but not in pants. That would be a good review. I like all your tutorials -i think you are one of the best in youtube - but this one i put a question mark..
I used auto-snapping on the shirt as well and that worked pretty well except for the overhang over the side of the pants which are very blurry :) Rotobrush is likely still going to chatter (and be slow to propagate) even on something as clearly defined as the pants, but do feel free to give it a shot. The tutorial was a lot longer (the part where I roto all the other parts was actually recorded), but I ended up collapsing it because it was getting too boringly long :D
In my opinion, it is still very difficult to implement with the best method or techniques. Im just wonder why is Mocha haven't implement the AI technology in their product? It could be more easier and useful to users generally.
More AI / automation comes into Mocha with every release. Getting it to work well is difficult (see Rotobrush or Content Aware Fill in AE) but lots of companies are working on it :)
why can't AE do it himself? every year they update something, but they can not make a complete functionality (
AE is more focused on the layer-style compositing and motion graphics it’s gotten popular for :) At least you have Mocha AE included for free so you can use that anytime you want!
this tracking system seems to be garbage..he traks everything..but not what i want..better doing every single picture in premiere or ps
Mocha is a very powerful tracking tool used by professionals all over the world - and with good reason :) But it's not an easy tool to learn and can feel kinda like "it just doesn't work" if you're not familiar with its workflow, features and quirks. I have a beginner tutorial series here that might help - but of course you're welcome to stick to frame-by-frame work in PP or PS if that works better for you :) ruclips.net/video/rgwFQDWOKgs/видео.html
@@SurfacedStudio thanks a lot...maybe you could give me a tip how i could track an airplane after using the magnetic selection tool..i guess i have to do several selections and put them later all together as one selection?
Depends a bit on the size of the airplane in the shot and what sort of movement/track you are after. Remember Mocha is a planar tracker so shapes shouldn’t include multiple planes or your tracking will fail. Check out the playlist I Pinkes, in particular the video on tracking people/advanced rotoscoping that shows how to break up more complex shapes
@@SurfacedStudio thanks again..