Battening our Walls & Ceiling | Transit Van Conversion E17
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2021
- Our next project is to start battening the walls and ceiling of our van conversion, so that we have somewhere to fix our cladding and cabinets onto later on. For our campervan wall framing we used timber battens fixed into place with rivnuts and pocket holes, as we didn't want any screws in the van after spending so long removing them all in the beginning!
Before framing the walls and ceiling of our campervan we also made some new wheel arch box covers, our first 3D objects! 😀
Putting the battens up on the van has started to make it look more like a campervan inside. Every time we're getting one (small!) step closer to the finish 🙂
Thanks for watching! Any comments or questions? Let us know below!
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The other way you can find your holes is to run a line of tape along the wall over the rivnuts and then poke a hole where the rivnuts are. Then remove the tape and place it onto your wood. You can then see and mark where the holes need to be drilled.
Thanks for the tip, that's a pretty good idea actually! We'll keep that in mind if we have to do something similar again 🙂
Omg this is the best idea! Love thid community!❤
The attention to detail is off the charts. You'd never get that quality of build from a commercial manufacturer. Fair play lads.
Thank you, we like that doing it ourselves means we can take the time to make it exactly as we want it 🙂
What a wonderful couple you are. No, pretentions, just wonderful
Thank you, we're enjoying working on it together 🙂
I wonder if they ever bicker 😂
This is a grand blueprint for framing a newer transit. You guys are so easy and enjoyable to watch! Thanks very much for sharing!
You're welcome, glad you're enjoying it!
Thank god for you guys. Having such a headache with my framing atm. ❤
Ha no problem, good luck with it! 👍
Excellent work. Learning alot. Thanks for sharing so much!
No problem, we enjoy making all the videos 🙂
You can also smear lipstick on the nut inserts and then press the battens against them. The lipstick will mark the back for holes.
Yeah we mostly use bluetac and a sharpie now in the same way 👍
Admire your effort and dedication with the rivnuts. Most others would use self drilling screws for speed and ease. Best ones are the self drill drywall screws from screw fix. Well done. 😀
Thanks! It took a bit longer but we're happy that we can dismantle and move anything really easily if we need to, which has already come in handy!
I visited England from Australia several years ago, it was meant to be your summer - I had to buy a jumper. Summer temps in Australia can be extreme, during our terrible bushfires we had days where several States had temps 47-52c for days - the sky was filled with smoke, the sun was red, it felt like you had been put inside an oven. Cheers from Queensland Australia.
Yeah wow, 52c i pretty hot for sure. We had one of our biggest ever heatwaves this summer and peaked around 40c, but it's usually only a week or so until you get rain again here 😛 We visited Australia in 2017 and explored around the Daintree and down some of the East coast to Sydney. Had a great time. Cheers!
RIVNUTS ftw! Great work you guys!
Cheers! 🙂
Best chanel out there so much detail and you 2 clearly like each others company, great team 👍👏
Kind of you to think so, glad you're enjoying the videos! We do like to tackle everything together 🙂
I really love hearing about your thinking process. I’m at this stage right now and your videos are so helpful :)
Cool, hope your build is going well and glad they're useful 🙂
Looks good guys
Thank you! 😊
Love your channel keep rocking
Thank you! 🙂
Hey 😁 amazing to watch your videos. Do you mind me asking what size bolts you used? In length? Thank you ☺️
Cheers :) And the ones we used to secure the battening were M6 35mm bolts 👍
Great video guys, good job at doing the battens! We went through the same thing when doing the battens, lots of sitting down and scratching heads trying to figure stuff out that are many steps ahead, very overwhelming sometimes! Keep up the good work, excited to see how you guys get on ! 👏👍
Thank you! 🙂 Yeah there are definitely some head scratching moments, but all solvable... eventually 😅
You could always ask your lovely lady if you find it difficult to find the hole, am sure she would be more then happy to help you with this matter!! All the best in over coming your problem and thankfully you have Abby. ❤️
Some of them were a bit tricky but the hangar bolts worked great 👍😀
Hi guys, thanks for your channel!! Have been following your vids and we got the rivnut idea from you, it's worked perfectly so far!
Just a quick question; I'm worried about the bolts becoming loose when I drive. I don't really want to add loctite because as you say, it's really handy to be able to move the battens if needed. I also didn't included a washer as to be honest, I forgot.
Have you found if the bolts have moved at all? Or have you thought about it?
Hope you're enjoying the sun like we are!
Great to hear, glad it worked for you too 🙂 Hmm that's an interesting question, we actually haven't added anything like locktite on ours, but if you wanted extra peace of mind you could use the blue locktite and they should still be removable without too much effort. But you would have to make sure it's definitely the blue one, as the red version is much stronger and would not come apart again! To be more confusing, the bottle colours are both red... 😜 They talk about the differences here: www.loctiteproducts.com/en/know-how/build-things/threadlocker-red-or-blue-which-ones-right-for-you.html. We used it for the bolts on our roof rack, but were less concerned for the bolts in the walls. It's not a bad idea though 👍
The washer we added mostly as an attempt to try to minimise some squeaks with the wood rubbing against the van metal. Hard to say how much of a difference it makes as we have only heard it that way round ourselves.
And yeah so happy it's finally sunny! it makes so much difference to building outside! One thing we really underestimated was so much of an influence the weather has on the build... had too many days of it being too cold or wet to do anything so it's a welcome change 😀
Hi guys loving your channel. Are you based in Exmoor, my fiancé and I love short breaks in Exmoor we are in Dorset. We want to retire to Exmoor❤
Hey 👋 Nope not Exmoor, we built it all in Devon 🙂👍 Spent the weekend in Dorset though 😛
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Thanks for sharing your van build. Do you think that you need to have a thermal break between the wood and the side of the van? I have seen other van builds with the thermal break and wondered if it made a difference. I don't have a van and would like to build one. I live in Canada and the winters get cold. Good luck with the rest of your build. I am following now so I can watch the progress.
Thank you :) We haven't got anything between the wood and the van metal, but we are trying to break as many thermal bridges as possible from the outside to the inside. The wood itself is doing that to an extent, and then where we have the cold metal coming through in the small places that can't be easily insulated with either the PIR boards or recycled plastic insulation we've used a mixture of the 4-way carpet and foam to cover some of those areas. When it's particularly cold outside and we need to work in the van we sometimes run an extension lead into it and put on an electric heater and it heats up fairly nicely already. And we're going to be putting in a diesel heater, so once that's installed, we're pretty confident it'll actually be super warm and toasty inside 🙂
hi, just found your channel, love your content, binge watching your vids 😆 you come up with some great haks.
did I miss it or do you explain why you chose not to do a vapour barrier to prevent condensation forming? or have you just sealed up the insulation in as many places as you can?
I have just got a fiat ducato to fit out so down the RUclips rabbit hole of research and seeing how everyone does it before I make too many mistakes.
Awesome, glad you're enjoying it! And after a lot of deliberation we decided not to put one in, as we have a similar opinion to far out ride: faroutride.com/condensation-moisture-van/. We're using hydrophobic insulation materials and trying to encourage air flow and dry heat instead. We've also treated all of the wood we've used throughout (the only untreated wood in the van is the bed slats), and used hydrophobic insulation materials. There's a lot of debate about the pros and cons and we always keep an open mind, but so far we're happy and haven't had any issues
great video again, any idea where i can get one of these awnings?
Thank you 🙂 And we have the Wild Earth Delux awning, there's a link in the description of the video where we installed it (ruclips.net/video/7c_0DFc-kTk/видео.html)
Hello guys,your work is really amazing, precise and great looking👌👌
Just finished my floor and have found your excelent VanBuild series.
Thank for sharing your ways!! It is really very motivating with great ideas👍
I am also going to add rivnuts.
Please is it OK to use that rivnut-tool for a girl?? Men warned me that I will not be able to make enough preasure like a man...but I am used to work with normal hand-tools.🤔🤔🙂 Just searching for the Richter tool,not to waste Money on wrong equiptment...
Looking forward to your videos. Thank you for showing us!!
Thank you, we're glad you like how it's turning out! We love the rivnuts, takes a bit longer but being able to unbolt everything easily has already been useful to us, and we didn't like the idea of adding more screw holes after spending so long filling them all in. Abi did find it a little difficult to get the pressure for the high ones above her head sometimes but the lower down ones weren't too bad. The trick is to make sure the rivnut is screwed on tight to the tool before (there's a small adjustment wheel to turn till its hand tight), and to make sure the levers close enough when you come to put it in. We had one or two that we didn't put enough pressure on the first time and they were not gripping enough, spinning a bit. But it wasn't too bad to use the tool again on them and to press a bit harder and secure them in place. This is the one we went for: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Twin-Long-Handle-Nutsert-Rivnut-Riveter-Threaded-insert-Nut-Riveting-Tool-M3-M12-/183073127356. Good luck!
@@SelfBuiltStories Thank you so much fir Help! Going to order the tool as I slso think it us the vesr way to add mountain points and to drill info my love van🙂
THANK YOU, Enjoy your trips🍀
No problem at all, hope your build goes well!
Nice work guys! May I ask what size are the framing pieces? And did you use the same size for the walls and ceiling? Thank you!
Thanks Jason! And sure, we used 1x2 planed redwood timber (about 20.5 x 44mm planed) for all the battens on both the walls and ceiling. We found it a good size to work with, but on the ceiling we did later add some tapered wedge pieces on the sides to give a bit more drop to clear the thick insulation boards we went for.
Hi great job as always. So were the rivnuts you used M6 size? I want to order some today but cant get to the van to measure the hole diameter!
Hiya, cheers :) Yeah we managed to find M6 size holes for pretty much all of the wall battening. The ceiling was a bit odd though as there were so many different sized and shapes holes, so I think we ended up using a mix of M6 and M8 there. HTH 👍
Enjoying your channel starting my Sprinter as soon as it stops raining long enough ,are you going to live in it full time Jackie Nairn Highlands.
Ah the rain! We feel you, when the weather is not playing ball and you have to build outside it's not ideal sometimes 😂 Yes that's the plan, we're planning to take it on the road full-time for as long as we enjoy doing it. We will probably take it around the UK first to see how everything is working out (in case it needs some last minute adjustments or fixes!) then spend some time around Europe. Good luck with your build!
Thank you hoping to get toNorway around larvik Stavanger then Oslo I'm half Norwegian so get to see my Viking Ansestors ,Takk skal du ha hadda bra.
Cool! Norway is one of the places we're really looking forward to going to! Hoping to spend some time up around the Lofoten islands. Hope you enjoy your trip :)
And which size wood too 😅 or did I moss that part?
We used 20.5x44mm (25x50mm nominal) PSE redwood timber (2x1) 😊
Did you do anything to waterproof the framing boards or just straight to the walls and ceiling?
Hiya, yeah we varnished pretty much all of the exposed wood in the van that wasn't painted to add some protection against moisture. Took a bit of time but we're glad we did for the peace of mind. The only raw wood in the van is the slats for the bed and seats really 👍
Is the awning rail still holding just with sikaflex?
Hiya, yep no issues at all, still going strong! 👍
Sorry if i missed it... What size battens did you use one the roof??
Hiya, we used 2x1 (20.5x44mm) PSE redwood, the same as we used on the walls. We needed them fairly deep to sit lower than our 50mm insulation we put up there. If we were doing it again we'd probably used 40mm insulation instead to make it a bit easier, as we later had to add a few shims on the side where the insulation was still sitting a little lower 👍
The link for rivnuts is wrong. I clicked it and bought them and M8 came. They're twice the size of the holes on my transit
Hiya, the link just goes to the generic listing we used for all our rivnuts so you can choose all sizes from M3-M12. We used M4, M6 and M8 in the van in various places. Mostly M6 for the battening if I remember right 👍
Hi I'm in the process of converting a van and just wondering why you have to screw the battens into the metal frame instead of screwing the playwood / cladding into the metal frame right away? I am looking for answers all over the internet and it is not written anywhere. is there any logical answer that is why everyone does it?
Hiya, good question. For us we decided to add battens first using rivnuts for a few reasons. You could screw straight into the van metal with self tappers if you had ply that was thin enough to bend around the curvature of the van, but to do that you'd probably need 6mm thickness or less, which wouldn't have given us enough depth to screw anything substantial into it (like overhead cabinets, securing wall furniture etc). For our van there are quite deep recesses too which cladding wouldn't bend around, so the battens give some rigid attachment points for it. For straight sections of wall that's just going to be painted/carpeted you could get away with it. But we also didn't want to add screws anywhere in the van metal if we could help it, to avoid creating any more holes that could end up being rust spots. So using the rivnuts and battens gives us a frame to be able to fix things to, avoids creating additional holes, allows us to unbolt and remove again easily, gives us some space to route wires, and has much stronger pull out strength than screws would have into the thin sheet metal. HTH! 🙂
@@SelfBuiltStories Thank you for the answer :) my partner and I decided we will not use battens in our Iveco because its shape is appropriate to screw everything directly into the van, or into construction holes that are already there. Thank you so much for the great explanation :)
@@lavra1212 No problem, and good luck with your build! :)
Great videos! I'm looking into some different materials for my framing but can't decide.. What kind of timber did you guys end up using?
Thank you! For the wall framing we used 25x50mm nominal planed all round redwood timber, which comes out at 20.5x44mm. We're pretty happy with how we did it as it's been really useful for screwing things into and building off from. HTH
Okay thanks!
@@gertsels1377 No problem :)
Hi. What is the name of the tool you used to make a screw hole?
Hiya, it's called a Rivnut tool and we have this one: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183073127356. And then you just need the rivnuts themselves: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253446606172. HTH
@@SelfBuiltStories thank you :)
@@aliuslucan4874 No problem!
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Please quit wearing your gloves when you’re working with the tablesaw if you get into the blade it will grab the glove and pull your hand in the blade
Don't worry haven't worn gloves for a long time and we always try to be careful using power tools 👍