Very cool! Sad thing is he always gets hurt in the outfield when he attempts to make plays that he can’t make. He’s done this six times in the last 2 1/2 years!! The guy needs to become a DH FYI!!!
To be honest a LOT OF outfielders hang their arm over the wall like that after failing to rob a home run. And RARELY does this happen. I used to play ball in school and I'm very aware of how common outfielders do that. Can you explain why it's so rare even if such a position is compromising to the muscles?
Thats true. I really do see that quite a lot while watching MLB. Honestly, it's a hard one to explain. Unfortunately in Eloy's case the load may have been too much for his pec to handle. We see bicep tears in some weight lifters and not others, despite them lifting the same weight. The same is true for pec tears. Usually these occur in really heavy bench presses. But all in all, people are different, and respond to certain injuries differently. In some cases, it just the perfect combination of bad positioning, load, and timing. With the arm hanging over the barrier, I would also be concerned about rotator cuff tears, subluxations, and potentially dislocations. We see quite a lot of rotator cuff pathology in baseball players which we mainly believe to be due to repetitive throwing. But this could very well have caused tears in the rotator cuff muscles as well. While other baseball players may continue to jump over the barrier, this may be something he may have to be more cautious of following surgery. Given that he has already torn the muscle once, he would be at a risk for re-rupture.
@@SonamMD Great assessment and thank you for the response. Not sure how much you know about Eloy but this is his third injury on something that other outfielders do on plays that are potentially dangerous but who 99% of the time come out unscathed. Seems like Eloy is in the 1% I do have two follow-up questions. 1. Do you for see this being a career changing injury for Eloy when he comes back considering he bats right handed? 2. A little subjective but, does it seem like, considering other players DON'T get injured on plays like this, Eloy just caught a bit of bad luck on this play? Or Eloy's body is just different? If so then i foresee some DH in his future.
Although there's no large pec concentric movements for baseball, I was curious if this left pec injury would be troublesome as a right handed hitter since the terminal position of the swing will end with the left pec in an eccentric position (much like D2 UE flexion)
You are 100% right. To be honest, there is quite a lot of pec involvement with the both the swing (right pec) and the terminal point (left pec). And the issue is, the pec will be at a more compromised position (being eccentric) when he finishes his swing. So yes, to answer your question, this will have to be a strong consideration when discussing his return to play. He's going to have to require pain free ROM and swinging at 50% before progressing to full swings. Thanks for the insight!
I frequently wonder how you define an 'athlete'. In many sports, an 'athlete' may be excellent in a narrow field and a virtual cripple in others. This especially applies narrow sports like Baseball. All the 'athletes' have strong arms (pitching/batting) and useful legs for running between bases. Everything else goes to pot - witness the enormous butts and bellies of most baseball players! If they had an uterus, they would be well built for childbirth! Sorry Dr. Sonam, you are addressing serious and very interesting issues, but one frequently wonders where specialized 'Murican sports are going. The concept of 'common sense' seems to be MIA!
What are you talking about? You must not play or know anything about the sport. There are many muscles and things baseball players need to work on that just aren’t arms and legs for running. You obviously don’t know what it takes to throw 90+ mph and hit a ball 400+ feet...
Soccer players only use their legs. And tennis players also use your their arms and legs. And what about football linemen. Only lifting and using barely legs weighing at time 250 pounds and plus. So know what you are talking about before saying. Some thoughts are meant to stay in the head.
This is a ridiculous comment. Most baseball players are in phenomenal-shape. You must not watch much baseball. Also, baseball a “narrow” sport lol. Baseball is one of the hardest games out there. This is why there is lacrosse, for rich kids who can’t hit a baseball. They are nice and skinny for you.
This is a fantastic explanation
Thanks! glad you found it helpful.
Who’s here after update on Eloy!!!!
Under rated channel gonna watch all your vids and subscribed!
Thanks for your support! Glad you found the videos helpful
Fantastic explanation. Sad to see Eloy done for the season.
Yeah me too. Hopefully he will be back in full swing next season. The outcomes to the operation he will be receiving tend to be quite good!
At least he’ll be back if the Sox make the playoffs
scary stuff but i cant really see myself going after a home run like that anyway 😂
Very cool! Sad thing is he always gets hurt in the outfield when he attempts to make plays that he can’t make. He’s done this six times in the last 2 1/2 years!! The guy needs to become a DH FYI!!!
Yes he's unfortunately pretty injury prone :(
Vince carter did this all the time sticking his hand in the rim
@@WMcDerm10 yeup but he knew it was putting his hand in the rim and likely contracted the muscles to ensure he protected his anterior joint and pec
Thanks for covering it 👍
No problem 👍
This was great. Thank you for your info. Any update on him?
He’s off the IL. Just hurt his groin tho :/
Stupid play by Eloy. But as one door closes another door opens grand opportunity for a guy named micker adolfo.
To be honest a LOT OF outfielders hang their arm over the wall like that after failing to rob a home run. And RARELY does this happen. I used to play ball in school and I'm very aware of how common outfielders do that. Can you explain why it's so rare even if such a position is compromising to the muscles?
Thats true. I really do see that quite a lot while watching MLB. Honestly, it's a hard one to explain. Unfortunately in Eloy's case the load may have been too much for his pec to handle. We see bicep tears in some weight lifters and not others, despite them lifting the same weight. The same is true for pec tears. Usually these occur in really heavy bench presses. But all in all, people are different, and respond to certain injuries differently. In some cases, it just the perfect combination of bad positioning, load, and timing.
With the arm hanging over the barrier, I would also be concerned about rotator cuff tears, subluxations, and potentially dislocations. We see quite a lot of rotator cuff pathology in baseball players which we mainly believe to be due to repetitive throwing. But this could very well have caused tears in the rotator cuff muscles as well.
While other baseball players may continue to jump over the barrier, this may be something he may have to be more cautious of following surgery. Given that he has already torn the muscle once, he would be at a risk for re-rupture.
@@SonamMD Great assessment and thank you for the response. Not sure how much you know about Eloy but this is his third injury on something that other outfielders do on plays that are potentially dangerous but who 99% of the time come out unscathed. Seems like Eloy is in the 1%
I do have two follow-up questions.
1. Do you for see this being a career changing injury for Eloy when he comes back considering he bats right handed?
2. A little subjective but, does it seem like, considering other players DON'T get injured on plays like this, Eloy just caught a bit of bad luck on this play? Or Eloy's body is just different? If so then i foresee some DH in his future.
Would you ever do college sports?
Yea I am definitely open to it if viewers want that covered. Let me know if there are any big injuries you want to see.
thanks for this, was really informative. wouldn't mind slightly longer videos too. thanks
Noted! :)
Although there's no large pec concentric movements for baseball, I was curious if this left pec injury would be troublesome as a right handed hitter since the terminal position of the swing will end with the left pec in an eccentric position (much like D2 UE flexion)
You are 100% right. To be honest, there is quite a lot of pec involvement with the both the swing (right pec) and the terminal point (left pec). And the issue is, the pec will be at a more compromised position (being eccentric) when he finishes his swing. So yes, to answer your question, this will have to be a strong consideration when discussing his return to play. He's going to have to require pain free ROM and swinging at 50% before progressing to full swings.
Thanks for the insight!
Crying rn because he on my fantasy team 😪😪😪
I'm crying because he's on my reality team
This was pheonomenal!
Thanks. Glad you found the information helpful!
I frequently wonder how you define an 'athlete'. In many sports, an 'athlete' may be excellent in a narrow field and a virtual cripple in others. This especially applies narrow sports like Baseball. All the 'athletes' have strong arms (pitching/batting) and useful legs for running between bases. Everything else goes to pot - witness the enormous butts and bellies of most baseball players! If they had an uterus, they would be well built for childbirth!
Sorry Dr. Sonam, you are addressing serious and very interesting issues, but one frequently wonders where specialized 'Murican sports are going. The concept of 'common sense' seems to be MIA!
What are you talking about? You must not play or know anything about the sport. There are many muscles and things baseball players need to work on that just aren’t arms and legs for running. You obviously don’t know what it takes to throw 90+ mph and hit a ball 400+ feet...
Soccer players only use their legs. And tennis players also use your their arms and legs. And what about football linemen. Only lifting and using barely legs weighing at time 250 pounds and plus. So know what you are talking about before saying. Some thoughts are meant to stay in the head.
This is a ridiculous comment. Most baseball players are in phenomenal-shape. You must not watch much baseball. Also, baseball a “narrow” sport lol. Baseball is one of the hardest games out there. This is why there is lacrosse, for rich kids who can’t hit a baseball. They are nice and skinny for you.