Students Support Diversity Quotas...Until It Comes to Football
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Campus Reform reporter Ophelie Jacobson talked to students at the University of Florida on game day about diversity quotas. She first asked students if they support diversity quotas in hiring decisions and in college admissions processes. Most of the students said yes.
“As a first generation college student from a Hispanic household, it’s very important,” one student said.
Another student said, “I think it’s an absolute necessity.”
“Absolutely, there should be more diversity in every single field,” another student told Campus Reform.
Jacobson then asked students if they support diversity quotas for sports teams. Most of the students said they would not support these quotas in sports.
“We want to win no matter what you are,” one student said.
“I don't think we should. College sports is about getting the best players for your team, and I don't think we should focus on which race or ethnicity to get,” another student said.
“It doesn’t make much sense...it should be based on skill,” one student told Campus Reform.
Jacobson then showed students what the Florida Gators’ offensive lineup would look like if the team implemented diversity quotas based on student population demographics. Students didn’t think it would be fair to implement the quota for the team.
Did students change their mind on diversity quotas in the workplace and in college after seeing it from the perspective of college sports?
Watch the full video above to find out.
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"Should we have diversity on sports teams?"
"No, we want to win."
Sums it up perfectly
How about doctors? Should people get into medical school based on skill, or based on a quota? Imagine going to a neurologist who has no clue what she's doing. This was very disappointing for me. They should have the most challenging requirements of all.
"Should we have diversity in our medical schools?" "No, we want to live"
Terrible comparison
It’s such a bad comparison. In most workplaces making the workforce more diverse doesn’t stop them from winning. That only happens at the top level.
@@phantom8699 The point is that we all know full well that if you're hiring on diversity, you're going to get worse people. Because if you wouldn't have hired the person on skill alone, they are by definition worse than the person who would have been hired on skill alone.
A medical professor once said “I’m holding everyone to the same standard and won’t hesitate to fail you, because one day I’ll be old and I don’t want my life support device to be designed or operated by someone who got the job to fill a quota.”
medicine seems like the really obvious example. Who cares what gender or color someone is. I just want the best person doing my surgery.
I also don't want the doctor that got "C" on the final exams
Well said.
Great quote! Same with airplane pilots. And air traffic controllers.
Saying the same today would result in that professor being fired and replaced by an AA hire.
This is prime example of children being told what to think and not how to think!
children indeed
Incredibly naive.
Which part of the video showed thinking?
The amazing part is their total conviction for both. They just go full throttle on whatever they’re told to think
Now you're getting it
The scary part is they have no idea what the end result would look like.
@@robertstewart1262we’re about to find out 😉
Welcome to America! Once they’re out of school the media will tell them what to think!
@@joetruth7823 WDYM Once they're out of school? It's way before then
Diversity quotas are racist. You are choosing who to hire based on skin color.
100%
So true
Solving racism with even more racism, rather than just doing the obvious and logical thing.
Its not racist if it diminishes and humiliates white people in their countries
1. First plan on the Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Christians...and Democrats aren't safe either.)
2. True width of Washington Monument is 666 inches wide on each of its 4 sides.
3. Former elite banker R-onald Ber-nard says most billionaires are Luciferians (Satanic).
All atheist nations end up in poverty and dictatorship, unless helped by Christians.
Jesus said, and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
"If we recruited based on diversity we'd probably be worse". Best quote here, and sums up the hypocrisy perfectly.
To me, the best quote is: "I didn't think about it". That's the problem.
Still these guys do not understand what they just said. They turned around 180° within a couple of seconds and don’t even realise it.
This is our future generation…..
If only the school systems were equal, there might be more diversity on college campuses. I'd love to see a program were the kids from a "good" school get bussed to a "bad" school and the kids from the "bad" school get to go to the "good" one, just to see if it makes a difference and if so, by how much.
It’s such a bad comparison
The funny thing is that they've ginned up some pseudo studies to claim that more diverse work places outperform others. Of course they didn't compare to ones that focus on meritocracy, nor did they control for workplaces that already respond quickly to the marketplace (including the current wave of "diversity" requirements). So they can now claim that diversity in colleges and workplaces equals better performance, and no one calls out the poor studies for fear of being labeled "racist".
That Freudian slip “if they’re the best players fit for the *job* then they deserve the spot.”
🤣 🤣 🤣
college and work situations do not have to do with being the best. Do you actual think without discrimmination that white men would have been dominate in most things throughout history.?
@@stuartperry8141 go home bro, you’re drunk.
@@stuartperry8141how do you get to dominate others throughout history... Think about that for a day or so
@@stuartperry8141, Yes , I do . Your grammar proves my point .
I applaud them for being able to reflect quickly and change their stance while on camera instead of doubling down and getting angry
Your bar is set awfully low when all they have to do is not have a pathetic and threatening melt-down to be 'applauded'.. These people don't actually have opinions, they merely go along with whoever is nearby at the moment.
Liberal logic:
Quotas that benefit minorities: Diversity is our strength.
Quotas that don't benefit minorities: It should be based on their talents and skill.
Seems like Liberals treat people differently depending on the color of their skin.
Exactly. This is the kind of ass-backwards logic that liberals use. Unfortunately, these college kids are a product of liberal professors and what they read on social media. They don't know why they believe something.....they just believe it. Hopefully when they get older and out in the workplace, they realize that diversity quotas don't make sense.
@@jayhawk328 Once they don't get hired for a position they're qualified for because the company has to meet a quota, it will really open their eyes!
They are constructing a trap for themselves based on virtue. People are not stupid and will exploit the rules of the game to get ahead. Every structure that holds our society together will be attacked under this idea. Post modernist ideology will seek to replace every structure.
They are creating standards to equalize rights based on groups rather than a standard for all based on merit through talent and hard work individually. How can anyone not see that this is the opposite of inclusive on a broad scale? It is racist. Making decisions based on group identity has lead to millions of deaths when it goes too far.
There is potential in all cultures and backgrounds so their argument that one groups ability to prosper is oppressing another groups ability and the solution is equal outcomes is pure bullshit. Addressing the roadblocks for equality of opportunity is where they should be focused.
These professors know this, their goal is not equality at all in my opinion. They know the history and believe they are smart enough to revisit ideologies that have failed many times. They are doing it for power, they wish to mold society because they are arrogant.
The enemy is people who push these agenda's. They are playing games with our future as if it is their decision to make. Consider these people in the same way you might view the early supporters of the National socialist party in Germany during the early 30's or Mao supporters during his rise. They need to be stopped. If they are allowed to continue, this could lead to another very dark time in our history. If people could have stopped Stalin or Hitler, should they have done it? Look at all the red flags, they are there.
Citizens need to take away power from the media, reform the higher learning institutions and fire radical teachers and watch your government, they are creatures of opportunity who love power more than their country.
Asian kid- "we should pick students on diversity"
" If we picked the team based on diversity we would be losing"
🤦♂️
These students are seriously lacking in the self awareness department.
Most students are
what this segment points out is how easy lies fall apart,and how just a nice and simple conversation completely melted away their strong pro diversity feelings, that's why they have to censor and sub-humanize the opposition, cause once the truth clicks in, its there to stay
*I disagree with everyone except the girl in the orange top. She is a genius.*
They sure are and they have that Messiah Complex that plagues so many young people.
You have to be taught to be that stupid. And they are.
I'm honestly shocked and relieved that they were able to understand the contradiction
Same, I don't think my generation was this dumb despite everyone getting high. What happen to today's kids?
@@chrisx5127 yep
Kudos to the presenter for NOT putting the students on the defensive and possibly getting them to think. People beyond college would rarely consider changing their minds.
"If we recruited based on diversity, we'd probably be worse." There ya go champ, now you're gettin it
@@mm.8062 they cant connect the dots lol
@@Marshark50it’s actually kinda fascinating
@@mm.8062they are, it’s just an irrelevant point. Obviously there are many careers where quotas would not work, but many of them the qualifications don’t matter as much. There’s a reason people are still nice enough to hire those with disabilities
These are our educated progressives... LMAO buh bye USA.
I gotta admit, it is a bit amusing to watch the gears in their brains skip a few teeth. The know-it-all in the orange top was the best though, with her classic "i can hold opposing opinions, simultaneously, and not feel one ounce of shame" answer when proven her views are so flawed. Initially she said, when referring to diversity quotas, "yea i think its a necessity", then at the conclusion says "i dont necessarily think quotas are the way to go, i know they're wrong, i know they're unconstitutional".
I rest my case.
This is priceless. They don’t even realize their hypocrisy until pointed out.
They do but don't care
@@spardaprowess3277 No, they don't. They think about one issue and give the politically correct answer for that one issue. Then on to the next issue. They never make a comparative analysis in their minds between the answers they've given until confronted with the opposing answers to, what are basically, the same circumstances.
*idiocy
@Kevin Udly - So true. But to the credit of the students in this video, they were able to reprocess their belief in a flawed ideology, when faced with a reason to apply critical thought.
That was unexpected, and a very nice surprise.
Maybe some of them dont realize their hypocrisy but I feel like most didnt understand what diversity quotas meant
Wow, I didn’t expect them to see their hypocrisy and change their mind. Maybe there is still hope for our country.
If was Charlie Kirk they would have been insulting him before he even spoke.
@@daveredd9832 he's not exactly magnetic
@@jichaelmorgan3796 Wrong ! They flock to him to insult him. 🤣
@@daveredd9832 fair point
@@jichaelmorgan3796 Grace is always easily respected thanks.
I'm actually surprised that the students didnt try to make excuses as to why one quota is bad and the other is good.
They finally learned something on campus.
and it didn't even costs them the tens of thousands of dollars in tuition.
And not from a liberal professor. No surprise here.
College professor here. The reality is that conversations like these may be the very first time anyone on campus has engaged these students in a simple critical thinking exercise about their beliefs. That illustrates how politically monolithic campuses are these days. Campuses are often ideological bubbles surrounded by reality.
Colleges sure have changed in the last 20 years. When I went I boycotted a class because the black professor was having a known black bigot as a guest in his class. I said I wouldn’t be there and I struck to it. The next class no hard feelings. Things have obviously worsened.
And as a 20 year old college student I agree with you here. I know of examples of this in my own college (in Eastern Connecticut) since most students don't get questioned by professors about their political beliefs since they normally agree with each other. Instead they simply accept those beliefs (which are mainly far-left ideas politically). So as you said, many colleges become ideological bubbles as a result.
But I also have to say I sometimes spend time thinking why so many in my generation act this way (refusing to have discussions about political beliefs when I'm the only one who seems to be involved in it).
Would you like your heart/brain surgeon to be a "diversity hire" (lower scores, but got in because of skin color or the like)?...... Wait you don't, shocker
Sad thing is 33 years ago as a Senior in High school we regularly had to use critical thinking in class discussions...flash forward to 2015 and I'm in my 3rd year of University I was amazed when kids in an Upper Division History class had to have Critical Thinking explained to them...at that time my own son was 15 and he knew what Critical Thinking was and why it needed to be applied in writing an essay for example...his teachers always complimented me on teaching him Critical thinking at an early age and I always blew their minds by telling them that we taught him how to think critically while he was in Elementary school...
@@burnoutn9 Yay for you!!!!!
No to Critical Race Theory
Yes to Critical Thinking Skills!!!!!
This reporter just taught them more than college will ever teach them.
No she didn't, In their insane world they are probably all asking themselves.....why was that racist asking weird questions.
yet how do i feel dumber watching them be stupid
She caused them to use part of their brain 😋
Sad!
@@rkrk-xu4ud
Not for long, though.
Im very proud of these young people who were misguided in their opinion, yet with some good logic were able to change their mind and admit they were wrong without digging their heels in and doubling down. Good on you guys for changing your option in this day and age. Much appreciated. 👍
I agree! This should be the main takeaway.
Nah they didn't learn anything. Ask them again next week and they'll say the same s--t as before.
Or start yelling and screaming
no. just shows how easy they are to be "indoctrinated"
blairstringer: Amen
It’s amazing how proudly we declare the lofty ideas and restrictions we place on others and how quickly we reject the application of the same ideas and restrictions when they apply to us once self interest becomes involved. This is one of the very foundations of true inequality
Football: Merit is key to success.
Brain surgery: The most marginalized only need apply.
some years ago I watched a video of a group of women who wanted to be firefighters. the women on the video couldn't even lift the firehose, and the whole thing looked like the 3 stooges. I'd show these kids that video and ask them if their house was on fire, would they want those women to go and put out the fire, or would they prefer a group of men who can get the job done regardless of what color they are.
lmao
😂😂😂
@@Jerseybytes2 as a Counterpoint I remember the story of Sandy Riddell. She decided she wanted to be a firefighter, but was told that no woman could pass the physical test necessary to qualify for the training. Learning what was required, she left and trained with weights for a year and reapplied. Not only did she pass the physical test but she set the record for many of the events.
@@markjordan348 Retired firefighter here. There are women who can perform firefighting tasks quite well. There are also many who cannot.
Twenty odd years ago, we had a woman who was hired only because the city was lawsuit-shy if they didn't hire her. Years later, one of the guys who gave her the agility test told me that they were ordered to make sure she passed. She was 5'3", about 100 lbs and was totally incapable of starting a chainsaw, raising a ladder, pulling charged lines, holding any nozzle over an inch-and-a-half size, lifting a stretcher, swinging an axe with any effect, was terrified of heights, etc; etc;
She was also a fanatical, man-hating feminist who threatened lawsuits any time an attempt was made to hold her accountable for her shortcomings. She expected the department and the men around her to make special accommodations for her inabilities. It was an impossible situation.
She eventually just failed to show up for her shift one day, and filed a frivolous lawsuit against the city, the department, and even individuals (not me, oddly. She hated me). The city offered a cash settlement of about 1/20th of what she filed for. She took it and ran.
She was employed for about 4 years. It was wrong that she was hired, wrong that she lasted as long as she did because the city was afraid to get rid of her, and wrong that she saw a dime in the end.
Sorry for the long rant, but it's been a sore spot with me for years. She was worse than useless and simply horrible on every level.
When you've never worked or payed a bill in your life.
Or run a business!
Lol ding ding ding
It’s "paid".
@@kattengat2 it's ma'am
@Crowder Nf good for Trump,why should somebody get rich off his name?
WOW!!!! It’s amazing what happens when people actually start to think!
The part that I’m most impressed by is how they quickly understood their flawed thinking and adjusted it. Good for them for being open minded and actually questioning the things they’ve been told to think.
"Why don't you want quotas in sport?"
"Because we want to win."
same with math, physics, engineering, medicine, law, business.......we only want the BEST
Exactly….and they just shot down their own basis for wanting quotas.
A well-off household is much more likely to have kids with better ‘educations’. What about the kids whose potential was not fully realised, due to disadvantageous resources (poorer education, background, etc.)? Doesn’t this approach implicitly favour/bias wealthier or higher socio-economic class families (more likely to be of certain races partly due to America’s history)? Rich or poor, you can be athletic.
@@mojupets you don’t get into a college field by just being “athletic.” There is a lot more to it than that.
@@mojupets I was one of those kids. Poor family, small rural town. Yet I have done so many things in my life peoples' jaws drop when they hear it all. I had an opportunity to go to Harvard on a full ride, could have been or done anything I wanted, if i wanted it bad enough. Top student everywhere i went. It's not a matter of money so much as it is other factors.
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I applaud these young people for being open to admitting their thinking was warped.
Open?
It is scary that they have not been taught to think!
And shows how easily they allowed themselves to be indoctrinated in the first place!
Scary….
I really appreciate that the kids were willing to be open minded and reconsider their positions when confronted with a conflicting position. Many adults I know much older than them are fundamentally unable to do the same thing
I think it just opened the door to how they really thought in the first place.
Here's an idea: remove all the identifying info from applications. Assign every applicant a number. Then, judge the applicants by their merits. That sounds like the most fair to me.
@@orevel exactly
@@orevel You don't start at the university level, though. If a student, no matter their race, isn't prepared then you set them up for failure. Not only that, but for any students of another race or gender it can be harmful by reinforcing negative stereotypes they've learned. The "I guess my uncle was right, Mexicans just aren't as smart as us" kind of backwards thinking.
I'm all about need based scholarships so that students can be set up for success, but if you can't make it in by the same standards as everyone else then it's a waste.
We aren't going to lower the acceptable standards for medical treatment, engineering, etc. so why should we start anyone down that path that is set up to fail? College entrance requirements exist for a reason. Instead of waiving requirements, let's help kids of all backgrounds get a good education starting in kindergarten, not with university level courses.
My sister lives in NYC and she overheard a girl that was really upset on the subway. She'd be accepted into a prestigious university that she wasn't prepared for. She was trying to catch up but other students were way ahead because her high school didn't offer the kind of prep needed, and she was going to have to drop out. She was miserable, but someone out there is probably patting themself on the back for "helping" her.
@@orevel youre talking about class and race as if they are the same thing
@@orevel If you have a job right now, but your boss needs to fire one person and hire someone who is the opposite race as you are but is obviously not as skilled as you are in your specific field to meet a diversity quota, and you weren’t even sure if you could find another job, would you be willing to give up your job to this person?
After all, don’t forget, it’s not nice to not be inclusive.
@@Lustie You're setting up a hypothetical that is obviously rigged to have people side with your argument.
First, your boss is not allowed to fire someone because they are not the right race. That would in fact open them up to a racial discrimination lawsuit.
Second, in your example you say that the "opposite race" individual is "obviously not as skilled as you are" , how would you determine that? Just an unfounded accusation meant to bias your hypothetical.
Third diversity quotas don't exist the way they're being represented here. Affirmative action regulations provide that goals serve as "targets reasonably attainable by means of applying every good faith effort to make all aspects of the entire affirmative action program work" and that goals "may not be rigid and inflexible quotas, which must be met." Quotas can only be imposed by judicial order to correct a pattern of blatant discrimination.
Under the Civil Rights Act, you cannot base a hiring decision, in whole or in part, on a person's race/gender. Affirmative action is intended to ensure that employers hire the most qualified people, including members of groups that previously have been subject to unlawful discrimination.
You created a loaded hypothetical that made way to many unfounded assumptions.
When you've been told that the bigotry of low expectations is commendably compassionate.
Well spoken
Time and time again.
Exactamundo
@Crowder Nf good why should some scammer make money of him.
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Well done Ophelie. You presented your survey in a very neutral and safe way. A must to help people see a different vantage point.
Good for these kids having the intelligence and maturity to keep an open mind and change an opinion when confronted with logic and facts
no. bad for these kids. they do not have open minds. they are simply easy to control. why did they not research this issue in the first place. censorship maybe.
Rational thought wins out. That’s why leftists avoid debates.
The left will always avoid explaining how war is peace
Exactly. If you're having a major, life or death surgery, do you want the best surgeon or be diverse correct?
That's why they are always trying to force you to shut down debates also.
@Anglosaurus Rex Many people of all backgrounds come to America to escape socialistic rule. Whites are already a minority. I don't think it's a big deal. If the concept is good then ALL people will like it.
The lefties avoid debares because they are never challenged. The media and Academia only challenge the ideals, opinions and thoughts of those they oppose. Since a left wing lunatic never uses truth, facts, reason or any other logical means to debate their viewpoints they never develop any skills to intelligently discuss or debate most topics. Feelings and emotions are they only criteria they seem to employ which means lefties either abandon a debate or it devolves into a profanity strewn personnel attack on the individual using logic and reason.
It blows my mind how the average American actually “doesn’t think”.
These are supposedly above average Americans. The best, the brightest the most melanin-enhanced.
Bingo!
Well they do waste time on their first year on the basics before specializing in their actual field. If the average american was intelligent the world would be totally fck.
@Mr Best Policy correction, the entire world.
This is exactly why the founding fathers went for a Representative Republic instead of Straight Democracy. I don't think they understood the level of corruption that would creep in, but would 6 branches of checks and balances really been less corruptible?
“We recruit based on skill, and if we recruited based on diversity we’d probably be worse.” The dude summed up everything that’s wrong with DEI in one statement. Whether in sports or in the workplace you want the most skilled people on your team. It shouldn’t matter what they look like, just what they are able to do.
She confused them by changing the terms which is not really fair. Diversity hiring does not equal quotas. She asks if they believe in diversity which everyone should. But that does not mean you take lesser candidates. It only means you do not consistently pick candidates that look like you if both are equally good. Quotas are when you pick the lesser candidate to meet the mix you are looking for. She switched these terms when it favored her desired gotcha outcome.
Great video. People can change their minds if they are presented with sound arguments and the way she presented it also played a very important role (no emotions, just calm arguments and logic). Well done
It's kinda sad that all these kids default to virtue signaling and regurgitating an answer before thinking about it. That one girl in the orange flip-flopped HARD and didn't bat an eye.
*One cannot argue with perfect symmetry.*
She didn't even seem to realize that she'd completely changed her mind. Severe case of lack of self-awareness.
🎯
@@1nvisible1 Well said.
I didn't hear a word she said
“I hadn’t really thought about it”
That about sums up all of those moronic policies.
Exactly. The left doesn't think. Ever. They just do whatever their masters tell them.
It’s worse than that. They’ve been led to believe that they have thought about it.
Applies to virtue signaling vaccine mandates that's ruining businesses
How do people not think about this? Goodness...
Bc we’re fed the emotional lie that all races differ athletically but not mentally
I’m actually impressed that people reconsidered. Usually that’s when they just call you a name and run away.
Its like they don't teach critical thinking anymore.... They teach agendas and feelings.
1. First plan on the Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Christians...and Democrats aren't safe either.)
2. True width of Washington Monument is 666 inches wide on each of its 4 sides.
3. Former elite banker R-onald Ber-nard says most billionaires are Luciferians (Satanic).
All atheist nations end up in poverty and dictatorship, unless helped by Christians.
Jesus said, and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
Yeah, that's true for far too many people in my generation.
They've actually changed the meaning of critical thinking for college students. Now they are teaching them NOT to trust their logic and ability to form conclusions, to be counterintuitive, basically, to accept the opinions of "experts." They've completely flipped the meaning.
That is exactly how it is.
"Sports is different than college." So, a game should be based on talent, but real life should be based on "fairness."
It’s kinesthetic diversity Vs neurological diversity, man. Lol.
That’s actually a good argument. Just like taking steroids should get you banned from a competition, but being stupid doesn’t mean you should die.
@@commanderyeti3646 you shouldnt die, but you shouldnt be getting paid the same as someone who earned their money
Colleges are great because of how diverse they are. Environments that have lots of differing opinions and perspectives and background are way better learning environments than colleges where every student is a wealthy smart kid.
These colleges are prestigious because of their diversity so if you did away with that diversity no one would want to go to them. If you ask a prospective student if they’d rather go to a school where everyone is similar or one that is diverse everyone is gonna choose the diverse one because why else would you be going to college. It’s the same reason that colleges brag about their demographics because they want people from all backgrounds coming to their school.
Thanks for circling around and discussing it properly.
I think to be fair, when they answered to start. They all felt pressured because of the climate on campuses. It’s the “right thing to say” and they don’t ever actually think critically about it. This is a problem because if they don’t think about it they will just sit by while people push this BS
"Skill-based" is the correct answer across the board - whether in academics or in sports. I've been saying this for years - no names, race or gender should appear on a college application - it should have only the potential student's SSN on it. Who did the best? Who outperformed the other applicants? THAT'S who should be admitted. The student's other "qualifiers" are not relevant. If you don't want to use SSN, assign the applicant a random number. This is NOT HARD, people!
Hey there buster! You're making too much sense here! Better knock that off!
@@twg_twiggy I get accused of that frequently!
Underrated comment
Would love to see what the enrolled class would look like.
You cannot say skill based due to the fact that we are not talking about skill and more so opportunity. If a student wasn’t introduced to things because of the environment they grew up in placed them in a school district that was inferior to others around the country. And as we know this is all due to your financial status. And that goes to show that they want you for abilities on the field but don’t care otherwise. It is a system designed for some to prosper and others to fail and until people are ready to admit these truths all their arguments are void and pointless.
Just wait until a “quota” hurts them (job promotion, school acceptance, …. Etc)
Exactly. It seems the black community is under represented at this school. How many of those white kids would give up their place?
they are just regurgitating the socialistic viewpoints drilled into their unsuspecting brains from their communist teachers. One Campus Reform asked whether money should be taken from "richer" people and given to poorer people who won't work, they all said YES. but when that same logic was applied to their test results, ON NO! We can't be taking from MY grades, because I worked hard for it, while others just partied...
@@mchrysogelos7623 I love these interviews. When these students get hit with the facts they look like a dear in the headlights.
@@cuckingfunt9353 That's the best way to do it, letting themselves realize it's not really logical (Perfect execution). But if you insult them, call them stupid and things like that, they won't change their views. Also when you try hardly to prove them wrong, you often get the same results.
It's already happening and they don't like it. In 5 years time all of this will be upended when they realize their quality of life has diminished due to this nonsense.
What is wrong with these young people? A medical doctor to fill a quota but not a football player. How sickening.
For me it is a hard subject and can see right in both sides. If you are better at something, than someone else, you deserve the spot. Yet, the background plays a role. I might be as good or better than someone, but because I grew up in a place where the school was not as good, or I could not do my best at school because I needed to take care of family (brothers, sister, grand parents, etc), etc etc I think we do need to create more educational opportunities for people like that, and help them to uncover their full potential.
Such a great example…merit doesn’t count ….. except when it really matters … like football. Sigh… The answers universally with this generation “I didn’t know that or I didn’t think about it.” Our future is being indoctrinated.
Thank you for what you’re doing!
@Crowder Nf good for Trump
yes, because merit doesn't matter when designing a bridge that needs to stand for half a century or more.
Campus reform is a genius for applying this to sports. “Talent is talent” is what one said but not when it comes to academics very different.
This is an old argument from around 2014.
Same is said "if cops are racist and target blacks, then we need to address the gender arrest gap and either arrest more women or let 40% of men arrested go free"
Yup
@@fallingfloor6924 well they do now...
Plus Affirmative action also goes against what MLK preached in his "I have a dream" speech.... "A man being judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. "
Funny thing happens when you poll the students on Socialism as well. You ask them if they agree with Socialism and equity. Many of them are all about the idea, until you ask them if they would be willing to give up some of their GPA to give it to students who have not performed as well. Suddenly they get upset because you are suggesting removing something they have earned and giving it to someone else. The funny thing about Socialism, is it’s always a good idea to the people who may be receiving, and a good idea when you’re taking OTHER peoples money to give to people we don’t have as much. They always seem to suddenly change their tune, when it’s THEIR money you’re talking about taking.
Nicely done Ophelie. Well handled.
This is incredible! Great job Campus Reform!!! Love it! Great questions!
“Maybe we should be admitting kids to colleges based off skills and scores” LOL let’s go Brandon.
I know huh. I interview people for Cyber Jobs often....I dont even really listen to anything other than their answers to my questions. Those with skills are hired.....I dont even look at the schools because to me its a joke. Could be someone from MIT or a community college.....I look at their certifications and ask question based on those as well
@@vincentgarcia9784 It's too bad because a few people actually did go to colleges where critical thinking is encouraged. I was fortunate enough to be one of those people. But I understand why my degrees aren't of much value these days.
@@TheSBleeder I guess that if your skills are up to the task, you should be fine.
Celebs should be hiring women guards instead of men :)
SAT's way ahead of you granting people points for being black, lol
"I'm a hypocrite, but I'm so stupid that I don't even recognize it."
The literal definition of stupidity.
Gotta give them all credit for being open to changing their position when somebody pointed out the hypocrisy.
@@LightningIguana But does it last? Do they walk away, keeping that position? I'm thinking that once they get with their like-minded friends, their "new position" disappears.
Great video! Thank you!
Excellent piece. Non combative and helpful to guide these guys through the thought process.
It stuns me how people can be so blatantly hypocritical and have no problem with it
SEC football fans
To be fair, they were not really defending their previous points. They acknowledge that they needed to look beyond just the diversity when deciding
Certainly doesn't speak well of their intellectual ability.
its all antiwhiteism
minorities have made it so whenever white people are better at someting its only because of racism but any other groupit is basically acceptable
@@JamesYeangit doesn’t matter give them a ballot and they’ll still vote like morons the fact that they had to be told this lmao
"I didn't really think about diversity". That's the problem, these students don't think, they are brainwashed.
well, at least l learned to question authority when l moved over from China to here. The long march described in American textbook is quite different from ccp textbook.
They are brain dead
No, they are just afraid to think and be honest.
It looks like they’re afraid to ask these questions or think this way. Once ‘given permission’ by the interviewer they open up and stop towing the company line. That is indoctrination.
They're no longer students, but merely puppets.
Students are taught to be producitve and informed citizens (at least by design)
What we have are brow-beaten cowards who piss themselves at the tought of calling out someone for their lack of effort , lack of skill/ability, or violent and aggressive behaviors.
All because someone might call them a wayyysis.
A nation of blanket holding thumbsuckers.
Nicely approached on this one, Campus Reform.
Nice video. Keep up the good work!
"I didn't think about it".... most telling response from the students.
Reporter is a genius for applying those diversity tactics to the O line. Yt channels like this are the true children of Jon Stewart and The Onion.
I loved both growing up so you might be onto sometime ☺️
The Onion??? WTF you talking about, the Onion is NOT a liberal mouthpiece, the Onion if anything shines a light on how stupid Liberals are.
Jon Stewart on the other hand is a Liberal Mouthpiece, the guy is worth like 100 million dollars yet pretends to speak for the working man. "Trump Bad, Biden Good", I used to love "The Daily Show" but then it became a mouthpiece for the Democrats.
People have been saying this for over 50 years and it was still met with the same resistance and double standard
its so sad to see how much students are invested in physicality, and so little in learning witch is way more important ,sports is a past time, you want the best learners so you get the most skilled workers ,and those who do not cut the mustard are not wasting time learning stuff that more and better skilled people will shade them out in the market place, its just an ego thing, you can have a totally cool and very rich life without being educated ,you can be dumb and rich or super smart and poor, and while its important that we have educated people ,its totally unimportant to have everyone educated,,leave it to the ones who are good at it,,and you go open a plumbing supply or something
@@tbirum They said, the "children" of the two. You are saying the same thing. One are the leftists that can't see their hypocrisy/stupidity and one is the conservative showing them that.
I'm glad to see they learned from the example that's the important thing!
The guy at the end grimacing 🤣
So they think if a kid's talent is throwing a ball then it should be about who is best but if someone's talent is their mind, their studies and striving for excellence in the classroom it's not about who is best anymore. Unbelievable.
well said
The nice thing about football is that there's a clear winner and loser, so it's hard to argue about "well we're actually better because" if you lost on the field. It's interesting how much more logical they all were when it came to that.
Quotas: “It’s an absolute necessity”
“I know they’re unconstitutional”
💁
That’s the left motto
that made me sooo mad
She is clearly going to go far based off her skills.
@@Andrew_NJ Yeah her 2 skills will carry her pretty far thanks to simps
@@Veros245 When someone's skills are formed naturally they have to be admired.
“Talent is talent is talent is talent” yep you got it girl lmao
I don’t think these kids are leftists. I think they are just I agree with the wind people
Those that want to enact social programs are almost always leftists.
unfortunately most kids are like this
They are simply parroting the cognitive dissonance of their "academic" indoctrinators
VERY WELL PUT.
Yap they are just plain stupid 😎....but Stupid synonyms=Leftist.So ....no comments.
"I guess I didn't think about it." That's the problem with people, they don't think. Herd mentality.
They don't think, they blindly follow what the liberal media spoon feeds them.
@@awy1977 Yes they do. And I also suspect there is a conspiracy to push this trend at colleges/university's. How do they do that? I was on campus at age 35 and saw some disgusting liberal professors. Who give them their marching orders? CIA?
Or it shows that we don't do a good job of convincing them. This is a great argument and i will use it with my family to see if it sways them.
@White Knight or tell you to stop watching FOX News.
Yes, but I'd wager you could/should say this about *literally everyone/every citizen,* save for people who have careers involving these issues (politicians, news outlets,...). Most US citizens haven't thoroughly researched/devised their own opinions on all, or even many political issues. That takes serious work/effort.
I'll give it to the students who actually saw the argument and didn't deny that it was a fair one.
i love tactics like this that slowly get in without their emotions noticing so they can critical think before having a tantrum.
The moment when sailor boy mentally slapped himself across the face with reality is needed across all campuses
Is he a village person?
across da while usa!!!! wake up ppl!!!!!! lmfao!!!! lets go brandon!!!!
Sailor boy lmfao. I was wondering wtf was up with his hat
Gilligan.....?
@@HubertofLiege He's a village people person.
If college was based on talent, none of these people would be there.
Lol
Those kids got more education in one interview than they're getting in all of their classes.
They get points for coming around in the end. Great job opening their eyes.
"Everyone should have an equal part." If you want equality, you'd eliminate the quotas.
It’s not about equality, for them.
It’s about equity.
That’s why the oppressed victim mentality is running rampant.
Because they believe the more One is able to check the boxes of the qualifications, in what they perceive as oppression - the more opportunities they feel they are entitled to.
If it was about equality - it wouldn’t matter, what boxes they check; everyone has the same opportunity, to earn their way into whatever field they desire pursuing.
Students support crackdown on fossil fuel because of “existential threat” until they’re informed it means canceling their Spring Break trip to Cancun.
They're on board with canceling your spring break but not theirs.
Little do they realize all the internet they use are run on cell towers. Which are run by fossil fuel.... so......... until they stop posting videos/ watching videos / instant messaging.... I will continue to travel 🤣
They support a crackdown on fossil fuel because they don't spend even 1 minute learning about how the alternatives (sans nuclear) takes more energy to produce than the energy it gives out. To say nothing of how solar panels, wind turbines and batteries cannot be recycled and only have a 10-25 year life cycle. They are quite literally campaigning for less efficient and therefore more expensive energy that will impoverish the world.
@@DeusExDraconian Are you kidding me? Almost everything you just said is flat out incorrect.
Nuclear energy does not “take more energy to produce than the energy it gives out”. This is such an utterly moronic statement that I don’t even need a source. Pay attention to thermodynamics in chemistry next class.
You are (partially) correct about the lifespan of the things you listed, but you say that as if it’s somehow aiding an argument for fossil fuels when the fossil fuel industry damages entire landscapes, pollutes water supplies, and most importantly, is the primary culprit behind excessive greenhouse gas emissions in the past few centuries. Your argument is akin to saying “Why should I stop smoking if I’m going to breathe in the same air as all the other smokers in the world?” The difference is incomparable.
Less efficient does not mean more expensive, ESPECIALLY in the energy sector. But you don’t seem to have any conception of what either of these mean when it comes to energy. Fossil fuels are BY FAR the least efficient source of energy at our disposal. The majority of the energy from the fuels we burn is lost as radiant heat. The reason why we use it is because it’s cheap and readily available. Economics. Duh.
Solar is more efficient and cheaper than fossil fuels: news.energysage.com/solar-energy-vs-fossil-fuels/
Nuclear is FAR more efficient and, while expensive to start up, infinitely cheaper to run than fossil fuel plants: www.energy.gov/ne/articles/nuclear-power-most-reliable-energy-source-and-its-not-even-close
@@desuvult15
Re-read what he wrote. Sans means, not including. You have a lot of gross conceptual errors.
Fossil fuels are more or less clean. The water, the air, the environment has never been more clean.
Nuclear is not efficient but the fuel is basically free.
Nat Gas plants run 70% efficient
Nuclear is more expensive than Nat Gas with current NG prices.
Solar panels will run 98% efficient, but they only work where you have, wait for it, wait..sunshine.
Coal and nuclear are about 30% with nuclear fuel being basically free. You can get get up to 45% efficient coal plants with very high pressure/temp cycles.
Wind takes power from a "free" source, just like the solar.
Again, not scalable.
Hydro same thing.
The impact of Fossil fuels to our environment when weighed with the benefit is small.
A good example of having an opinion first and then thinking about why later .......if at all.
Imagine those people on a jury of a murder trial!
Hiring based on skill verses diversity has never been more urgent than the 2020 VP selection.
LET'S GO BRANDON
Very true. I distinctly remember Biden changing from, I’ll name a woman VP, to, I’ll pick a black woman VP
And look what diversity did with heels up Harris. A unskilled I don't give a fck personality in power based off color
@@dontbeakaren6145 Get your popcorn ready when she becomes president. Her hair is going to fall right out!
@@ultrafaga1947 Even though we have a 25th amendment I highly doubt they'll remove the president even if he was on a ventilator.
Who do you want to hire for a leadership position in your company-- Talent is Talent guy or 'I meet the diversity quota' ?
This is why so many businesses are hurting, they keep pushing diversity on the hiring teams, and the less qualified person gets the job based on their gender and race.
Are you a white male? They tell you that you're privileged, but with all the Diversity and virtue signaling these days, good luck getting a job, you're the bottom of their 'must have' quotas- I suggest you start identifying as LGBTQIA++ / Gender Fluid or Something to hit a Diversity button for them!
“I didn’t think about…”
Exactly. Thinking isn’t taught in this generation.
Agreed. They're taught what to think (indoctrination) rather than how to think (logic/reason).
@Crashinglikeamouse
Thinking is “racist.”
They’re told what to think, and if they voice disagreement, they’re a nazi racist sexist homophobe (or some other name that equals evil person
@@keithwilson6060 This. Mah favorite!
I somewhat also blame their parents for not teaching them... my parents aren't perfect, but they taught me a little, plus the grace of God was enough to keep me from becoming like these....
pleasantly surprised about how the students carried themselves (respectful, calm, thoughtful and not resentful when presented with new POV)
Finally theres people that don’t get mad after you expose the hypocrisy.
ask anyone of those kids if they would give up their spot on campus for a minority? None of them would!!!
That would have been a great question to add!
That's such an important point. They always say everyone else should make changes, but not them.
Isn’t that what Affirmative Action does?
These kids love the buzz word and to feel noble about diversity until they actually realize implications.
Yup which is fucking sad because diversity quotas will impact their future job search, politics they end up living under, and everything else, were as none of them played sports to start with, and the outcome of a sportsball game wont make their taxes go up or have them teach their kids that they're evil for their skin color
Good learning time for everyone.
Ophelie, so glad you exposed to them their bias on "Diversity" and how damaging it can be. That if they think that merit should trump diversity on football teams than should it also be the case for other fields like civil engineering, medicine and so manner other fields. I can foresee catastrophe in fields like civil engineering, etc. if we replace merit with diversity.
"We want to win no matter what you are... It should be based off talent." Hey Snowflakes, BUSINESSES WANT TO WIN TOO!!!
Exactly.... Diversity hired brain surgeon is like totallyyyy cool, because like racism
I guess being knowledgeable in something academically isn’t a skill regardless of race. Quotas aren’t fair on people lower on the color chart who actually earned their spot
Not to mention that workers want qualified co-workers, customers want qualified personnel and so on and so forth. Saying that for those brainwashed into thinking that a company "winning" must be pillaging and plundering others, since sinful people do sinful things means we should do away with freedom ( free markets etc. ) .
@Tom Brady you missed his point buy a country mile. He is being sarcastic, he's basicly saying a person getting a highly skilled job just because they are black and not because they are the best person for the job is a very stupid way to hire.
@Tom Brady I can't name a minority doctor but I can name a diversity quota hired as POTUS back in 2008. By the way, how's that still working out for America?
Everything should be based on ability and talent. Period. What an eye opener for these clueless students.
Too bad it won't change anything they do, think or say though. They'll continue doing all the same things.
Check out the other videos on this channel, the question now is why send kids to college at all, the stupidity is everywhere.
Clueless students raised by clueless parents.
I feel like this conversation needs to go a step further. Being the best athlete and being the best test taker is not the same thing. Most colleges don’t offer a single field but to a diversity of fields. It makes sense to admit on a diversity of criteria and allow for students to be weak in some areas and strong in others. It therefore makes sense to recruit a diversity of students for college while requiring more specific and rigorous criteria for different programs within the college.
Kudos to these college students for being intellectually honest. That's not typically the case with college students anymore.
These kids are adorable, like talking to a bunch of children. “Oh no, sports teams should be the best, most skilled people but of course that same logic shouldn’t be applied to anything else” 🙄
Because sports and real life are different. In real life, hard work is more important. In sports, talent does rule.
@@bluehotdog2610 Wouldn't the most "hard working" people have the highest scores, highest grades, and most proficient SKILLS? How does anything you said refute the original comment that society should be structured based on ABILITY? You are confused.
Thankfully they changed their minds 😃
@@bluehotdog2610 How is it any different? It is about ability. When you need a cardiologist, do you want a diversity hire or do you want the best one available? Merit based is going to get efficiency and that is far more important, especially when your life is on the line.
You have to realize they are on a college campus the home of some of the stupidest people in the world.
This reminds me of the interview about redistributing their GPA. “I worked hard for my GPA! I don’t want to share it with students who didn’t work as hard as me!”
You’ve made my day
Those kids only said what they thought they were supposed to say. Then when they found out that this is a sincere interview they said what they actually think. It's just sad!
“Talent is talent is talent is talent…..”
Legend has is she is still standing there saying the same thing
Talent is talent you know
Lmao that’s what happens when u act like a smart ass
Intelligence, which is measured by IQ test is a form of talent. It's a mental talent as opposed to Wisdom.
😂😂😂😂
She said affirmative action is unconstitutional... lol
College students discovering "common sense" for the first time. Great video.
When it comes to sport diversity is really the last fucking thing you need you want big guys who can throw the ball hit the ball run the ball smack a puck on ice etc and you want the toughest you can get for this diversity has no place in sport also Military and politics
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 and anything/everything else. ⬅️=Common sense?!
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 quotas and other forced diversity stunts have no place anywhere. If Asians were the only people who properly can do and teach math I would be all for 100% Asian math teachers.
You won't find excellence in any place where mediocrity is allowed over meritocracy.
These kids they chose to edit into the video aren't intelligent enough to answer the question effectively and fell into a trap of the agenda of the person asking the question. Ask any vaguely intelligent person those questions and they'll shred the point that the video is trying to make
@@simpudney8191 Yes, but also look at where america is at today.
Nailed it - Companies, colleges, or any entity that focus on diversity or quality are weaker for it.
Wowwww. Phenomonal approach.
"I think I didn’t really think about it …" THAT is the problem. They didn’t think. They just spouted the talking points they have heard.
Exactly .
Thats exactly what the communists want. They want ur first reaction to be the crap they regurgitated at first and to not think critically. They’ve successfully dumbed down a whole generation.
"You don't even have to think about it bro"
-Ethan Klein