One of the biggest things that bothers me about AH’s team is that they always act like they’re having these huge “gotcha” moments..... and they’re just not. It’s embarrassing to watch.
A lot of that effect is also mitigated by how JD and his legal team has been cleverly been acting throughout the whole trial. JD, during testimony, actually brings out some pretty fucked up things and gives context to them through the testimony, which then mitigates the impact of the reveal by the AH lawyers. Eg. When Depp talked about being cut by the bottle and him starting to scribble messages and words with his own blood on the walls. It seemed as it was just a random "WTF" moment from his side, but when then AH legal team brought it up later, it had absolutely no impact because of the earlier reveal.
Yes! And it’s insulting to the jurors. If I was on the juror panel and they kept changing people’s words and speaking things out of context, it would piss me off!
"It's common for a perpetrator to essentially gaslight the victim; accuse them of being the perpetrator." Damn Amber's Lawyer swapping sides here or what?
Genuinely, I’ve been watching all the trials and Hasan going over past evidence in half an hour of another video persuaded me WAY more that there was even any mutual abuse than Amber Heard’s defense has in days 💀💀💀
@@aarishowton8037 seriously! If I had just been watching this trial in a vacuum, Depp looks like an angelic victim while Heard looks like a straight up villian 🥺 I'm having to repeatedly remind myself that in nearly all cases of abuse, there at least at some point is mutual abuse. Typically, a victim doesn't get out of the situation before there is some retaliation and reciprocation of violence. Doesn't make either behavior okay, but dang, I thought they'd be able to make us feel a little more sympathy for Heard at least 😵
As a woman who has been in a dv/ipv relationship with the father of my child it f-ing sucks to see someone lie about it. Its already hard enough to get people to belive you and on top of that we have people like amber act like they weren't the the problem. Im just glad Johnny can stand up and say he was a victim and get his story out. Also yes Johnny wasn't perfect but Reactive abuse Is extremely common in abusive relationship. When you get pushed and pushed to your breaking point when you haven't done anything yet of course its going to bubble over.
Finally someone says it. Reactive abuse occurs when youve internalized their behavior as normal, and you know that they wont listen or react to anything less, because that is the only way they treat you. But he's a man, so I suppose he should have just stoicly endured it all, right? /s
One of the best things I've ever learned was to talk about my problems to friends rather than bottle them up and eventually explode into rage. I used to hide everything that hurt me and it only caused me more pain in the end. All because I didn't want to burden other people with my struggles because I know everyone is going through their own.
We have only seen Johnny depps witnesses yet what makes you so sure about Amber Heard lying? what if she was reacting to his abuse on top of his constant drug misuse? I see so many people saying 'he was a drug addict so what thats not so bad' even though Ive seen countless Marriages and Relationships get blown to pieces because of Drugs being involved. Being an addict really changes the dynamic of the relationship your in and should really not be minimized.
@@TheXxomasteroxx so when one does drugs, one automatically becomes the abusive party? Shit, better tell that to all the abused women who turn to drugs and alcohol to cope. Don't they know it changes the dynamic of their whole relationship??
I'm not familiar with anything psychology related, but I can just tell how dedicated the psychologist is towards her work. I would fully trust her opinion not only because of her knowledge and experience, but the way she goes into detail when she explains everything and gives her answers is amazing.
Her whole testimony was amazing! She was so clear and concise to make sure that her words didn't get twisted around during the cross examination. Her husband is one lucky man!
@@Mikestrike1 what about the instance where she said AH hit this other women completely out the blue in the face and AH attorney had to make her clear up that AH reacted after being hit first by that women and either pushed or slapped her back? She was definitely very intelligent but seemed like the most biased Witness by far since the start of the trial which is made worse by the fact that she is supposed to be an expert witness
@@TheXxomasteroxx it was Rocky Pennington that amber supposedly hit out of nowhere. Dr Curry was referring to Rockys deposition where rocky said amber hit her out of nowhere. It was amber that said rocky hit her first. So it’s one story versus the other.
Whenever my mom abused me I punched the walls/furniture rather than her knowing that even though she was my mother I'd get blamed. So honestly not too agreeing with the whole hitting shit means abuser. It can also mean the exact opposite
Right around 7:00 the lawyer messed up so badly. She allowed the psychologist to say "Yeah, gaslighting to accuse the victim of being the perpetrator is 90% women gaslighting men," and then continued her prepared line of questioning about how that can be distressing to the victim. LMFAO
the comments on the reality of patriarchy destroying men's psyche and their confidence and patriarchy helping perpetrate itself is so refreshing. i love these commentaries. I'm hooked on this guy now. abuse is 100% genderless!
As women we don’t own the trauma of domestic abuse, it is a human experience that many are victims to regardless of identity. Women are highly more prone to abusive relationships and not receiving justice but I argue our justice system doesn’t support victims in general. I hope women who are gatekeeping men to similar experiences realize fighting for their justice is also fighting for their own.
I agree with you. Justice fucks over any and every victim in such circumstances, and that's just facts. It is a penultimate problem for women in our patriarchal society but men still get abused either by other men or by women.
I don't agree that women are more prone to abusive relationships as there's really no research to back that up and there are many men like Johnny Depp that are too afraid to come forward because of public backlash so the stats would be wrong anyway. other male witnesses even confessed that they were victims, hell even Hasan himself said he had bad experiences. it's way more common than I think people like you realize. I think you need to consider that currently women definitely have a better environment to share their bad experiences than men. some men will be crucified if a girl accuses him of something without proof. generally, abuse accusations are handled as "guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to the court of public opinion, Johnny experienced it as well as many others. All it took was one lie from Amber Heard to destroy his life, yet it took him 6 years to dig up evidence and prove his innocence. even after all of this, people still believe Amber Heard, or at least that "they're both bad" despite evidence suggesting otherwise because of subconscious sexism, at that point, it's "guilty until proven guilty". no wonder so many guys, some you may even know, won't say anything when you have people who will villainize them regardless. this mainly female victim favored environment is partially due to the capitalization of #metoo and other movements, and partially to ignorant/dismissive statements like yours: "Women are highly more prone...". I don't believe you did it maliciously, however unfounded statements like that are dangerous and are exactly why some people think it's ok to ignore these issues, or why some men feel their experience is unimportant. ultimately, I believe issues should be addressed/ tackled not based on "who has it worse". I do agree with the rest of what you said though.
@@Crozzzbonez0 I hear what you’re saying. What I’ve used as a measure of abuse that’s the most concrete we can get is deaths. Stats show 72% of murder-suicides involved intimate partners and from that 94% were women victims. This is only one aspect of abuse but death is the ultimate form. When I’m saying women are more prone I mean historically and politically speaking women are more likely to face abuse like the death statistic. A consequence of the power inequality in our institutions. To understand Institutions, policies/laws are the best measure of power. We see this with no paid parental leave, Roe getting overturned, you know. If you look up crazy laws you see shit like in Michigan where it’s illegal for a woman to cut her hair without her husbands permission. Obviously it’s not enacted but its a statement on the power differential from times closer than we realize. And these policies that hurt women hurt men too. What you’re speaking about is cultural power. It’s taken a mad shift the past couple years towards favoring women and notedly in this case abusive women use it to their horrible advantage to destroy and build power. Both men and women are equally capable of abusing but institutions via policy in fed govt, state, local, etc have encouraged and allowed men to abuse women at a higher rate for all American history. It can’t be said the other way around unless we discuss on the grounds of cultural power since the #metoo. So it leaves the question… does the hundreds of years of institutional power encouraging statistically more abuse of women hold more or less weight of the cultural power women are beginning to hold and using against men? Or is there a better answer that both men and women are suffering and we share a common struggle that we can’t fix without one another? I think it takes us sharing each other’s perspectives and engaging in well intentioned discussion like this to understand more. I really appreciate your message it’s given me a lot to think about and I can see from your lens why it sounded dismissive
@@hannahcheck i agree with pretty much everything you said here, so maybe it was just a communication error on my part. To clarify, I was talking more in terms of abuse in general currently. Women absolutely are more prone to severe physical abuse than men by their spouse or SO, that’s undeniable. Men have also held most of the power in history and only recently has the playing field levelled, that’s also true. I don’t think you’re one of them, but I’ve heard a lot of Terfs and fake Feminists use that as an excuse to ignore the other side, so sorry if i came off as aggressive. I agree, both issues need to be looked at seriously for improvement, otherwise it’s just back and forth tug of rope.
The theory is that if you're rich you can just buy another place to get away from your abuser and afford the lawyer to sort it all out. The problem is that there's a psychological aspect that keeps you around your abuser that doesn't care how much money you have.
Johnny Depp was slamming the cabinets and pouring himself a lot of wine because his mother had died. The video she took was not too long after she died and Amber took advantage of that. That's why he got peeved when he saw she was filming her If you listen closely too you can even hear her laughing at points about it even though she was feigning fear. In numerous instances of the videos Amber took, most, if not all of the videos were of Johnny Depp in a vulnerable state. She literally, instead of just caring for him and properly taking care of him, literally recorded his depressive episode where he was going to cut himself and tried to make it seem like he was going to hurt her, even though in the audio he says numerous times, that he was going to "himself" and had nothing left to give her.
The whole framing of that video is so deliberate on her part. She places the recording device(her phone i imagine) at an angle to show the half empty bottle of wine, proceeds to in-camera point at the bottle and ask if he'd been drinking a lot.. It's like she's a cop trying to have him incriminate himself on tape... except she's his wife and supposed to be supportive.
It kills me that Heard’s lawyers keep trying to twist the drugs/alcohol narrative to make it look like Johnny was a literal monster when he was drinking/high… as if all of the witnesses aren’t going up there and saying that AMBER was the one drinking 1-2 bottles of wine per day and getting drunk. Multiple witnesses stating they didn’t even know if/when Johnny was high, multiple witnesses saying Amber was the aggressor, multiple witnesses describing her as manipulative. It’s just wild that, weeks into this trial and many witness testimonies into this thing, they’re still acting like they’re getting anywhere with this tactic. It’s just making them look despicable lol. She literally found these lawyers on Wish 🤣
If the victim is portrayed as imperfect, the abuser thinks it automatically invalidates the victim's reality as well as maintains the perfect image and skewed reality they need at the moment.
Okay so I’m a psychology grad student and this psychologist reminds me of MY psychologist, so this is gonna be a fucking BLAST. When she talked about the memory “holes” I laughed out loud
I wish she could’ve expanded more on that. As someone who remembers practically none of their early childhood (and spotty mid/ late) I’ve often said I have large memory gaps when talking to siblings.
@@machinegirl03 I’m more or less also asking if it’s normal. The doctor and commenter both seem to think ambers recollections/ descriptions aren’t consistent with “memory holes” from trauma (or maybe specifically PTSD??) I’m curious what true “holes” from trauma would manifest as both for my personal situation and curiosity of those questions about amber. Also in my case I do think my memory gaps are largely self induced via dissociation- so trauma based.
@@machinegirl03 I'd think it's totally normal to not be able to conjure up out of thin air a ton of childhood memories. I'm not even sure I could randomly remember more than a good few that've stuck around through the years from under 10 years old. Though for me there are plenty of memories that crop up from time to time as various reminders hit. I cannot say how much time is accurately there. Certainly there are huge swathes of time that just eventually melted in to an amalgum of a memory around various places I've lived or events at places and no longer reflect accurately, but like I'd know for certain! I'm counting those general vague, "well that kind of stuff was happening" plus the few specific events as remembering the whole time, though. There have been plenty of times when people have brought stuff up and I simply had no memory of it, though. Even semi-recent TV shows I know I sat through! It really just depends on what you or your mind has decided is worth keeping around.
@@MrSparklytuxedocat Childhood amnesia is completely normal and the evidence that trauma leaves 'holes' in your memory is sketchy at best. Most researchers in the field dispute repressed memory. Look up false memory syndrome for some more info on how the idea of repressed memories causes far more harm than good.
If you want to win every court case, all you have to do is use the classic MTG "I don't recall" technique and you'll win every time! #NotReally #Sarcasm
Drawing from your experience in the legal field: Isn't it strange that they're using a psychological test that Amber took while knowing it could be used against her (and could therefore just take the test to make her appear favorable), while also the psychologist herself is hired by Depp's team? Seems like inadmissible bias all around lol.
@@jacobxa well I will say, the test itself seems to be able to tell when you’re hiding info/exaggerating so I don’t think it’s too awful if she knew this evaluation would be used in court because ultimately if she doesn’t answer truthfully they seem to know when that happens. As far as Depp’ steam being the ones who hired her, I’d say it’s no different than any witness being brought by Depp’s team; the main difference being though that this is a licensed professional so every time they have tried to attack her for being biased to Depp, they’ve been shut down given that all they have done is give Depp and Heard evaluations and then recall the findings of said evaluations
Oh bruv, do I hear you loud and clear. Science denial is so fucked. The "magic pixels" drove you nuts aswell, I assume? Like, questioning science shouldn't be allowed in court; 'what do you mean by science?' is absolute semantics.
psychology especially when it comes to the mmpi2 and writing a 25 page analysis on the results of that isnt nearly as hard science as maths or anything like that there is a lot more ambiguity with this.
Elaine thought she was going somewhere by saying that "questioning your partner about infidelity, when unfounded, can be IPV." Then she plays a deposition by Josh Drew, where he says that on over 50 occaisons, during the short time he lived in the penthouses, Amber had men over, while Depp was out of town. Also, *incoming footage of Amber and Franco cuddled up in the elevator*
There definitely is misandry in courts, at least in family courts. Mothers almost always get custody despite their ability to parent. A coworker of mine's husband only got custody of his child after YEARS despite the mother being a drug addict, an alcoholic, and being openly neglectful. And he ONLY got custody after that time because he's now remarried. Oh, and she also still has custody of her other 2 kids.
I guess this is cause of some social bias, women being perceived more nourishing and such than men, but also maybe it's the overcompensation, since not so long ago only fathers got the custody of the children after divorce/separation, and in some muslim countries courts, or in any radically religious countries, it is still the case - the reason being that fathers were/are the sole providers, but also were/are considered more important for upbringing than mothers (cause of disparity of economic power along with luck of legal security for women).
the reason why mothers get custody the most is because only 2% of divorce cases involve a custody battle. the other 98% is mutual agreement, including the father
Luckily I watched enough lifetime movies where a white woman was the villain and the abuser all along so it's easier for me to look at amber and believe what is being testified against her
Just finished... man this whole bit was wild. Hasan, much love to you for defending men who get abused. I have a friend literally going through the courts right now for this exact scenario- the parallels between his case and this one is crazy. Big difference though: my friend ain't rich. His lawyers are doing basically no discovery or prep since he can't pay them much, so he's basically on his own. If he wants the lawyer to actually what you expect them to do, it would cost about 25 grand. Absolutely disgusting what is happening to my friend. Kind of a mild relief to see Depp getting some justice.
this is not abut AH being abusive and i highly doubt your friends case is about defamation like this one... Idk but it really feels like most people dont really understand how this case works or what it is about
What are you attempting to say? None of that has anything to do with this. Even if the friends case is simply an abuse case, Depp’s trial has at this point become an abuse case so OP is correct in their feelings, assumptions, opinions. And if it’s OP’s friend, I’m sure they know more about the case than you random commenter. So… please educate us on wtf your point was.
@@iitstre_4550 depps Trial hasnt become anything other than a defamation Trial you have apparently No Idea how the judicial system Works so what the fuck are you talking about.
31:50 she didn't go through any courts, she just wrote an article. He has never been charged for abuse, he was just called an abuser. What she expected was for Johnny to keep his head down and concede to her. that way she could go on with the notoriety of being spokesperson for women's right and DV and he would be like many men in the industry, who just lay low and wait for it to blow over. Either because it happened or because they have no proof it didnt. BUT HE DIDNT DO THAT! no one was supposed to know about the in's and outs of their relationship. Johnny refusing to accept the accusations is the only reason she is in a court room.
Proves that shes either really dumb or a delusional attention seeker with victim mentality. Its Johnny Depp lol who in the right mind would think that he would ever let her get away with that.
Watching this has been scary because I have BPD and I can’t imagine hurting anyone physically, let alone my partner. Especially on purpose and with intent. I really hope that this case doesn’t add more fuel to the fire when it comes to the stigma around BPD. I already have a hard time telling others because I know they’ll automatically count me out as a friend. The stigma alone attacks one of the biggest triggers which is abandonment and loneliness. We feel alone most of the time and empty, so when we meet people we want them to love us so that we have that friendship. Then when we start struggling with monotony in relationships we begin to question everything and our value. We constantly interrogate others to know if we’re doing things right which then comes off as needy. It’s tough maintaining any relationship. Sorry for the rant guys.
@@emberdt7998 mental/emotional abuse happens in relationships even if no one in the relationship has bpd. Having bpd is about internal turmoil, not about trying to abuse someone either physically or emotionally. That’s another stigmatized notion around bpd. We are in more pain emotionally than anyone can understand and therefore most of the damage is done to ourselves. Most people with bpd will not hurt others because we can barely function from the pain we feel.
I do not have BPD but had a close friend at one time that did. I do see a lot of her in AH's mannerisms and the way she speaks. That said, please know that although I am 100 percent behind Johnny because I do feel he was defamed and I do not believe he is an abuser, watching this trial has not swayed my ability to feel compassion for those struggling with this disorder. I hope you find healing in your life and wish you nothing but peace. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@@karlsmal7944 Would you say that a lot of your reactions are based on fear of abandonment? I’m asking because I’m curious about what causes the inflated reactions I’ve seen in a friend in the past. It always felt as though in the end it was mostly based on fear of being left…
It's really important that when we say "believe the victims" it is built in that we believe ALL victims, and that we believe victims with reservations for when facts come to light. Of course it was important to believe Amber then, it is also important to believe Johnny now.
It's funny how Hasanabi has extremists from both sides in his chat and he shoots all of them down. He's very blunt but he has a lot of empathy, I can appreciate that.
The whole "if this was not televised, she would win," is a... bad point (sorry). This is a defamation civil case, not criminal. If Johnny was arrested for DV against Amber, he would probably not be convicted, as there is no tangible proof, whereas with Johnny, Amber admits to hitting him, he has legit physical injuries that could probably be confirmed (i.e. was his finger cleanly cut off like with a knife or taken off with a bottle), etc. For example, most victims of SA, myself included, do not get to go to court and see the person found guilty. Out of 1,000 SAs, 975 perps will walk free. This is a case of defamation, NOT DV. Whatever ruling does not mean that Johnny and Amber were/were not abusive to each other. Their DV victim status is still in the court of public opinion
Good points. Glad you’re safe. Question..Does that 97.5% include plea deals? From my understanding most assault charges lead to pleas and if it’s a first offense and not aggravated, jail isn’t typical. I left an abusive relationship in which I was charged with DV assault for grabbing my ex’s wrist when she pointed a knife at me. I never hit, choked, kicked, threw things at her but she did to me constantly. I made the mistake of being silent to the police to not incriminate her while she said I grabbed her...i decided to just take the plea to avoid going through the headache of seeing her in trial. It was a nightmare. I’m thankfully safe and have grown a lot from probation and my classes though.
@@justinwood9049 I'm so sorry, I was specifically talking about SA in mine (I'll edit it to make it clear...), as I was SA'd, not in a DV situation. I used it as an example, as I feel like the conviction rates would be somewhat similar (probably DV being more successful since police bring in the party that looks "less hurt" a lot of the times, or the man, even if they are not the abuser) and to illustrate that the "women claiming allegations and getting convictions constantly" is flawed logic. I know that the stat I was talking about does take into account plea deals as the 97.5% (it's from RAINN), but it does not take up that much of the 97.5% (only 50/1000 cases leads to an arrest). I'm so glad you are safe and healthy. I hope this trial will bring to light male victims of DV.
ik you posted this comment 2 years ago and its prob too late, but johnny was actually convicted in 2 other cases in london. This defamation case was basically the "third time's the charm"
As someone with experience with this assessment and other psychometric instruments it's pretty clear that Amber's lawyers didn't do much research. Alot of her questions she wouldn't ask if she research basic psychometrics and mmpi info... Idk where amber found these lawyers.... There are way better arguments they could have made to cast doubt if they did basic research on mmpi
Yeah it's pretty obvious the lawyer is just throwing out as many somewhat related, obscure questions as possible to make the psychologist seem less trustworthy when she answers "I don't know." Or something.
@@Majstorovamargarita Can you give alternatives that aren’t considered a joke? Also is the mmpi2 used in this case also considered as such? Now I’m doubting Amber’s diagnosis but then again Dr. Curry did a clinical interview so that may have factored into her diagnosis.
Im not an Expert in psychology but this witness seemed extremely biased. She basically spend like 2 days i guess with amber heard and read Notes of her prior Psychiatrist and then fucking came up with a 25 page analysis why she is the most terrible person in human existence with no redeeming qualities everything relating to trauma that she mentioned is apparently a lie and the only acceptable diagnosis is Bipolar also Bipolar people tend to file restraining orders and lie about domestic abuse and make defamatory claims towards their so. Like it was ridiculous how perfect her analysis matched exactly what the JD legal team wanted to hear.
Eh, slamming cabinets can be a sign of abuse. But if it was in response to Amber egging him on constantly, it's not fair to assume or consider it abuse.
Too many people are using the term “abuse” far too liberally when it comes to this case. She’s clearly egging him on in the video and he’s losing it as a result. She is not being abused in that situation, he is.
@@Lexyboogie I guess they are talking verbally abusive which i kinda get but hasan said that its "mutual" which is so bizzare to me and also calling it 35/65 split abusive
@1:12:30 The officer is asked if they recognize a document which appears to be a Jordan Peterson video. Case Closed, the cop did it. No further questions your honor. 😂
LMAO when they said what sounded like “vine” too i was like “jordan peterson had vine? what’s happening ?” i felt like my world was falling apart for a second
I have been following this for awhile. When it first came out there was a RUclips channel that went all out in disproving Amber when they came across a lot of evidence and then took their stand with Johnny Depp as being wronged and it was such a great channel to follow. They digitally re enacted a lot of these situations, I think even the infamous Amber Terd gate.
"It's still surprising that in 2021 during the height of the resurgence of COVID and variants that a government worker would wear a mask in a city where they were required by actual law issued by the mayor to wear a mask while in a government building at all times." Yup, seen everything I needed to.
When Hassan went off on the chatter at 14:53 I found myself saying “period and that’s on Covid”😂 bc period. It’s very obvious Johnny is the Victim and I understand feeling a certain way about men as a victim of abuse from them but when the tables turn we can’t be choosy. A victim is a victim and we must defend them!
I have been putting off many of Hasan's videos because I knew it would be frustrating and living through deja vu having to hear misconceptions and speculations before arriving at the truth (I and many others been following this case awhile back before this defamation trial), but I'm glad he and others have already caught up to speed. I had to argue with a lot of supposed 'feminists' (a lot of whom are women themselves) when a lot of the evidence started popping off ages ago, and it's nice to see someone as prominent as Hasan educate tons of people on this issue. Also thank you for the well edited video 👍 really helps!
What is this attorney? Is she like a double agent for Johnny's legal team or something? Like, how is she this incompetent that she's literally running ground for the prosecution.
I wonder if these attorneys are also annoyed because I can’t imagine how much this case may mess up Their careers 💀 especially with some of the dumb shit they gotta ask after amber has already lied and been proven lying so many times 💀
1:05:18 You answered my question correctly, just as I asked it but… I’m going to show how incompetent I am… lol what an idiot. She even said… “you didn’t fill one out correct,?” And when the officer said correct she said… I asked if you did fill one out… m🤦🏼♀️🫣
Honestly have no clue how Hasan can be bothered with his chat. I look at it for one second and have to look away, it's all just the same shit - would watch his streams if there wasn't the live chat honestly hahaha
It's just crazy how slaming cabinets for a man can be labeled as abusive but women do it and their just irritated that make no sense plus how is toxic masculinity a cause for misandry that like saying women aren't responsible for their own actions
@@Dione9000 toxic masculinity contributes to this bc men are made to seem like they're the only ones that can be big, strong, and scary and that women are weak and need protecting by men. so in that view - a woman slamming shit is not the same threat that man slamming shit is bc women are too weak and innocent to be truly threatening. so, yes, toxic masculinity
This is a solid police officer, I want her in my district! She is so matter of fact and self aware, I was impressed with the notebook question, never would have thought of that but it makes sense 🤷♂️
That's what James Franco said when Elon Musk was enthusiastically hitting a fat rail off said balls. After which he smeared Amber Heard's feces all over his chest. Amber Heard immediately swooned, Elon had passed her vibe check ✅
definitely painful 🥲 watched bc i thought he’d have more to say in reaction to what was happening on screen but he spent more time doing other things or talking over what was happening to discuss broader details
Is it just me or have the women been providing the biggest evidence in Depp’s overall favor? It is sooo weird to see people think this is a man vs woman issue when its a human vs monster issue.
The only people actually portraying people with BPD as beyond help are the people who justify abuse from people with BPD as "just a product of having BPD." The same exact people who pretend it's not their fault. It's a line of thought that follows the same exact logic as, "Men can't help it, women should just wear less revealing clothes." The problem we talk about regarding people with BPD isn't that they have BPD, it's that a lot of them refuse to take responsibility for actions and behaviors that happen as a result of it and find healthier and more productive ways of coping with their symptoms. BPD or not, Amber Heard is an abuser, so full of herself and self-assured that she refused to take the advice given to her or accept/admit that she has done anything wrong. People with BPD are not beyond help, but quite a few of them do pretend to be, and portraying it as if they can't help it is genuinely much more ableist because it leads to dismissing and shunning of people who have it, simply on the basis of them having it and nobody around them wanting to get hurt because they're "beyond help," "just like that," etc.
When I came to America I was sexually assaulted by a 13 14 year old girl I was a 8 year old boy and I don’t have the courage to love someone and I take medication to help and suffer from trauma that girl went to jail after that I go to therapy once a week and suffer from mental health :(
I hope that the therapy is helping. I can tell you that I was abused and if your trauma goes untreated it can get worse later in life. Please keep up with your therapy and I’m sorry that this happened to you.
Abuse has no gender. I'm a victim myself (female) and it's just so frustrating to see how little people believe he could be a victim too. It doesn't matter the gender of the victim or abuser
Also, I wish more people took time to get educated and be a little more empathetic. When you were talking about patriarchy, I made sure to time stamp it bc when I get into a conversation with someone and I want to help educate them… I’m going to pull Out my “Hasan, educate these idiots so I don’t have to folder” and get your help. I have a lot of educating I need to do myself but I am someone who knows this, I don’t pretend to know everything. And I can be swayed with an actual coherent and educational conversation that helps me see if I maybe am being more biased or whatever. Hasan…. From someone who may have been In abusive situations, and also who has witnessed women use their roles as mothers, or victims against men in their lives… i live for your takes. Thank you
It has to be intentional, like it was calculated to cause Amber narcissistic injury. She's everything Amber is, beautiful, but also everything Amber isn't, intelligent and capable of more than looking pretty while repeating words someone else wrote.
You’re so intelligent, accepting, and passionate. I could watch you talk forever (until I had to go to work or sleep or ya know, but otherwise deeply enjoy your perspective)
One of the biggest things that bothers me about AH’s team is that they always act like they’re having these huge “gotcha” moments..... and they’re just not. It’s embarrassing to watch.
A lot of that effect is also mitigated by how JD and his legal team has been cleverly been acting throughout the whole trial.
JD, during testimony, actually brings out some pretty fucked up things and gives context to them through the testimony, which then mitigates the impact of the reveal by the AH lawyers.
Eg. When Depp talked about being cut by the bottle and him starting to scribble messages and words with his own blood on the walls. It seemed as it was just a random "WTF" moment from his side, but when then AH legal team brought it up later, it had absolutely no impact because of the earlier reveal.
@@NothingKingKN 💯
In their defense, their case is unsalvagable. What else could they do?
Yes! And it’s insulting to the jurors. If I was on the juror panel and they kept changing people’s words and speaking things out of context, it would piss me off!
Fr thought they were gonna do the chat's problematic age gap bit any second
"It's common for a perpetrator to essentially gaslight the victim; accuse them of being the perpetrator." Damn Amber's Lawyer swapping sides here or what?
Amber is guilty. It shows in her actions
@@elturco5490 that's what I think as well. I just hope Johnny wins this case cause defamation cases are very hard to win.
too much evidence this time
She’s literally explaining all of ambers actions lmao
I aaa
I can't believe how much leg work Heard's legal team is doing for Johnny Depp 🙃
😆
Genuinely, I’ve been watching all the trials and Hasan going over past evidence in half an hour of another video persuaded me WAY more that there was even any mutual abuse than Amber Heard’s defense has in days 💀💀💀
@@aarishowton8037 seriously! If I had just been watching this trial in a vacuum, Depp looks like an angelic victim while Heard looks like a straight up villian 🥺 I'm having to repeatedly remind myself that in nearly all cases of abuse, there at least at some point is mutual abuse. Typically, a victim doesn't get out of the situation before there is some retaliation and reciprocation of violence. Doesn't make either behavior okay, but dang, I thought they'd be able to make us feel a little more sympathy for Heard at least 😵
Omg yesss lol
@@raeorion They’re seriously bafflingly incompetent.
As a woman, I must say, this psychologist is serving looks with the hair and the glasses. I know this is a serious issue but goddamn she looks cute.
I am also woman and I second this comment!
That professional look! 😩❤❤❤
I'm glad someone said it haha she is what I wanna be
glad people 😭agree
SAME AS A FELLOW SAPPHIC
As a woman who has been in a dv/ipv relationship with the father of my child it f-ing sucks to see someone lie about it. Its already hard enough to get people to belive you and on top of that we have people like amber act like they weren't the the problem. Im just glad Johnny can stand up and say he was a victim and get his story out. Also yes Johnny wasn't perfect but Reactive abuse Is extremely common in abusive relationship. When you get pushed and pushed to your breaking point when you haven't done anything yet of course its going to bubble over.
Finally someone says it.
Reactive abuse occurs when youve internalized their behavior as normal, and you know that they wont listen or react to anything less, because that is the only way they treat you. But he's a man, so I suppose he should have just stoicly endured it all, right? /s
One of the best things I've ever learned was to talk about my problems to friends rather than bottle them up and eventually explode into rage. I used to hide everything that hurt me and it only caused me more pain in the end. All because I didn't want to burden other people with my struggles because I know everyone is going through their own.
We have only seen Johnny depps witnesses yet what makes you so sure about Amber Heard lying? what if she was reacting to his abuse on top of his constant drug misuse? I see so many people saying 'he was a drug addict so what thats not so bad' even though Ive seen countless Marriages and Relationships get blown to pieces because of Drugs being involved. Being an addict really changes the dynamic of the relationship your in and should really not be minimized.
@@TheXxomasteroxx so when one does drugs, one automatically becomes the abusive party? Shit, better tell that to all the abused women who turn to drugs and alcohol to cope. Don't they know it changes the dynamic of their whole relationship??
@@dontnerfmebro8052 i dont think thats what i Said at all
I'm not familiar with anything psychology related, but I can just tell how dedicated the psychologist is towards her work. I would fully trust her opinion not only because of her knowledge and experience, but the way she goes into detail when she explains everything and gives her answers is amazing.
And her husband brought muffins 👍
Her whole testimony was amazing! She was so clear and concise to make sure that her words didn't get twisted around during the cross examination. Her husband is one lucky man!
@@Mikestrike1 what about the instance where she said AH hit this other women completely out the blue in the face and AH attorney had to make her clear up that AH reacted after being hit first by that women and either pushed or slapped her back?
She was definitely very intelligent but seemed like the most biased Witness by far since the start of the trial which is made worse by the fact that she is supposed to be an expert witness
@@TheXxomasteroxx it was Rocky Pennington that amber supposedly hit out of nowhere. Dr Curry was referring to Rockys deposition where rocky said amber hit her out of nowhere. It was amber that said rocky hit her first. So it’s one story versus the other.
@@JaneMcQ100 maybe i misunderstood but i think the lawyer Said that Pennington testified that she hit Amber first
I’m with the coomers on this one- this psychologist is a 12/10. Stunning
Coom
Gross
@@kuirkyy how is it gross?
@@67377cbbbsb are you being homophobic in a hasan comment section?
@@67377cbbbsb vermin?
This attorney is very rude. She acts like she has the gotcha question. Yet she ask silly questions, and gets angry when the witness points it out
Literally her job lol
She’s not angry, at most she’s frustrated as any human would be. She’s literally just doing her job
It's just her job, not her as a person. They gotta do what they gotta do
“why does this lawyer do her job”
Whenever my mom abused me I punched the walls/furniture rather than her knowing that even though she was my mother I'd get blamed. So honestly not too agreeing with the whole hitting shit means abuser. It can also mean the exact opposite
Right around 7:00 the lawyer messed up so badly. She allowed the psychologist to say "Yeah, gaslighting to accuse the victim of being the perpetrator is 90% women gaslighting men," and then continued her prepared line of questioning about how that can be distressing to the victim. LMFAO
the comments on the reality of patriarchy destroying men's psyche and their confidence and patriarchy helping perpetrate itself is so refreshing. i love these commentaries. I'm hooked on this guy now. abuse is 100% genderless!
As women we don’t own the trauma of domestic abuse, it is a human experience that many are victims to regardless of identity. Women are highly more prone to abusive relationships and not receiving justice but I argue our justice system doesn’t support victims in general. I hope women who are gatekeeping men to similar experiences realize fighting for their justice is also fighting for their own.
I agree with you. Justice fucks over any and every victim in such circumstances, and that's just facts. It is a penultimate problem for women in our patriarchal society but men still get abused either by other men or by women.
I don't agree that women are more prone to abusive relationships as there's really no research to back that up and there are many men like Johnny Depp that are too afraid to come forward because of public backlash so the stats would be wrong anyway. other male witnesses even confessed that they were victims, hell even Hasan himself said he had bad experiences. it's way more common than I think people like you realize. I think you need to consider that currently women definitely have a better environment to share their bad experiences than men. some men will be crucified if a girl accuses him of something without proof. generally, abuse accusations are handled as "guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to the court of public opinion, Johnny experienced it as well as many others. All it took was one lie from Amber Heard to destroy his life, yet it took him 6 years to dig up evidence and prove his innocence. even after all of this, people still believe Amber Heard, or at least that "they're both bad" despite evidence suggesting otherwise because of subconscious sexism, at that point, it's "guilty until proven guilty". no wonder so many guys, some you may even know, won't say anything when you have people who will villainize them regardless. this mainly female victim favored environment is partially due to the capitalization of #metoo and other movements, and partially to ignorant/dismissive statements like yours: "Women are highly more prone...". I don't believe you did it maliciously, however unfounded statements like that are dangerous and are exactly why some people think it's ok to ignore these issues, or why some men feel their experience is unimportant. ultimately, I believe issues should be addressed/ tackled not based on "who has it worse". I do agree with the rest of what you said though.
@@Crozzzbonez0 I hear what you’re saying. What I’ve used as a measure of abuse that’s the most concrete we can get is deaths. Stats show 72% of murder-suicides involved intimate partners and from that 94% were women victims. This is only one aspect of abuse but death is the ultimate form. When I’m saying women are more prone I mean historically and politically speaking women are more likely to face abuse like the death statistic. A consequence of the power inequality in our institutions. To understand Institutions, policies/laws are the best measure of power. We see this with no paid parental leave, Roe getting overturned, you know. If you look up crazy laws you see shit like in Michigan where it’s illegal for a woman to cut her hair without her husbands permission. Obviously it’s not enacted but its a statement on the power differential from times closer than we realize. And these policies that hurt women hurt men too. What you’re speaking about is cultural power. It’s taken a mad shift the past couple years towards favoring women and notedly in this case abusive women use it to their horrible advantage to destroy and build power. Both men and women are equally capable of abusing but institutions via policy in fed govt, state, local, etc have encouraged and allowed men to abuse women at a higher rate for all American history. It can’t be said the other way around unless we discuss on the grounds of cultural power since the #metoo. So it leaves the question… does the hundreds of years of institutional power encouraging statistically more abuse of women hold more or less weight of the cultural power women are beginning to hold and using against men? Or is there a better answer that both men and women are suffering and we share a common struggle that we can’t fix without one another? I think it takes us sharing each other’s perspectives and engaging in well intentioned discussion like this to understand more. I really appreciate your message it’s given me a lot to think about and I can see from your lens why it sounded dismissive
@@hannahcheck i agree with pretty much everything you said here, so maybe it was just a communication error on my part. To clarify, I was talking more in terms of abuse in general currently. Women absolutely are more prone to severe physical abuse than men by their spouse or SO, that’s undeniable. Men have also held most of the power in history and only recently has the playing field levelled, that’s also true. I don’t think you’re one of them, but I’ve heard a lot of Terfs and fake Feminists use that as an excuse to ignore the other side, so sorry if i came off as aggressive. I agree, both issues need to be looked at seriously for improvement, otherwise it’s just back and forth tug of rope.
@@Crozzzbonez0 I’m with ya brother. I hope we can change the fake femms minds cuz they are just not thinking critically
the fact that he had to explain to his chat that rich people can be abused, depressed, and hurt, is concerning
Most of his audience are 15 year old socialist redditors lmfao what did you expect
The theory is that if you're rich you can just buy another place to get away from your abuser and afford the lawyer to sort it all out. The problem is that there's a psychological aspect that keeps you around your abuser that doesn't care how much money you have.
@@bkucenski not to mention THE METRIC SHITTONS OF LIARS in the rich sphere.
Johnny Depp was slamming the cabinets and pouring himself a lot of wine because his mother had died. The video she took was not too long after she died and Amber took advantage of that. That's why he got peeved when he saw she was filming her If you listen closely too you can even hear her laughing at points about it even though she was feigning fear. In numerous instances of the videos Amber took, most, if not all of the videos were of Johnny Depp in a vulnerable state. She literally, instead of just caring for him and properly taking care of him, literally recorded his depressive episode where he was going to cut himself and tried to make it seem like he was going to hurt her, even though in the audio he says numerous times, that he was going to "himself" and had nothing left to give her.
The whole framing of that video is so deliberate on her part. She places the recording device(her phone i imagine) at an angle to show the half empty bottle of wine, proceeds to in-camera point at the bottle and ask if he'd been drinking a lot.. It's like she's a cop trying to have him incriminate himself on tape... except she's his wife and supposed to be supportive.
It kills me that Heard’s lawyers keep trying to twist the drugs/alcohol narrative to make it look like Johnny was a literal monster when he was drinking/high… as if all of the witnesses aren’t going up there and saying that AMBER was the one drinking 1-2 bottles of wine per day and getting drunk. Multiple witnesses stating they didn’t even know if/when Johnny was high, multiple witnesses saying Amber was the aggressor, multiple witnesses describing her as manipulative.
It’s just wild that, weeks into this trial and many witness testimonies into this thing, they’re still acting like they’re getting anywhere with this tactic. It’s just making them look despicable lol.
She literally found these lawyers on Wish 🤣
these are all witnesses purposefully chosen by Johnny Depps team we havent seen Amber Heards witnesses yet
Or Craig's list
I really don't think you can blame the lawyers all that much. They're trying to win a case with basically no evidence in their favor
If the victim is portrayed as imperfect, the abuser thinks it automatically invalidates the victim's reality as well as maintains the perfect image and skewed reality they need at the moment.
A
Okay so I’m a psychology grad student and this psychologist reminds me of MY psychologist, so this is gonna be a fucking BLAST. When she talked about the memory “holes” I laughed out loud
I wish she could’ve expanded more on that. As someone who remembers practically none of their early childhood (and spotty mid/ late) I’ve often said I have large memory gaps when talking to siblings.
@@machinegirl03 I’m more or less also asking if it’s normal. The doctor and commenter both seem to think ambers recollections/ descriptions aren’t consistent with “memory holes” from trauma (or maybe specifically PTSD??)
I’m curious what true “holes” from trauma would manifest as both for my personal situation and curiosity of those questions about amber.
Also in my case I do think my memory gaps are largely self induced via dissociation- so trauma based.
@@machinegirl03 I'd think it's totally normal to not be able to conjure up out of thin air a ton of childhood memories. I'm not even sure I could randomly remember more than a good few that've stuck around through the years from under 10 years old.
Though for me there are plenty of memories that crop up from time to time as various reminders hit. I cannot say how much time is accurately there. Certainly there are huge swathes of time that just eventually melted in to an amalgum of a memory around various places I've lived or events at places and no longer reflect accurately, but like I'd know for certain!
I'm counting those general vague, "well that kind of stuff was happening" plus the few specific events as remembering the whole time, though.
There have been plenty of times when people have brought stuff up and I simply had no memory of it, though. Even semi-recent TV shows I know I sat through! It really just depends on what you or your mind has decided is worth keeping around.
@@MrSparklytuxedocat Childhood amnesia is completely normal and the evidence that trauma leaves 'holes' in your memory is sketchy at best. Most researchers in the field dispute repressed memory. Look up false memory syndrome for some more info on how the idea of repressed memories causes far more harm than good.
@@machinegirl03 I grew up in Bosnia and I remember more childhood memories than I do my 20s. Trauma doesn't always make you forget things
I’m in the legal field and this is hands down the craziest shit I’ve ever seen. Incredible.
hey im intrigued as your someone who works in the field, how do you think this will play out ultimately??
@@ton_glenda3505 Heard is a woman, Depp is a man
If you want to win every court case, all you have to do is use the classic MTG "I don't recall" technique and you'll win every time! #NotReally #Sarcasm
Drawing from your experience in the legal field: Isn't it strange that they're using a psychological test that Amber took while knowing it could be used against her (and could therefore just take the test to make her appear favorable), while also the psychologist herself is hired by Depp's team? Seems like inadmissible bias all around lol.
@@jacobxa well I will say, the test itself seems to be able to tell when you’re hiding info/exaggerating so I don’t think it’s too awful if she knew this evaluation would be used in court because ultimately if she doesn’t answer truthfully they seem to know when that happens.
As far as Depp’ steam being the ones who hired her, I’d say it’s no different than any witness being brought by Depp’s team; the main difference being though that this is a licensed professional so every time they have tried to attack her for being biased to Depp, they’ve been shut down given that all they have done is give Depp and Heard evaluations and then recall the findings of said evaluations
I get Dolores Umbridge vibes from this lawyer 💀 🤢 i love how annoyed she got throughout this whole line of questioning 😂
She will be forever known as Amica Umbridge!
@@devilsjam2969 Amica Umbridge! 💀
I feel so much rage when the attorney does her job by asking f-ed up questions to question science.
That's America in a nutshell
Oh bruv, do I hear you loud and clear. Science denial is so fucked. The "magic pixels" drove you nuts aswell, I assume? Like, questioning science shouldn't be allowed in court; 'what do you mean by science?' is absolute semantics.
Ducking truth
This what lawyers have to do when they have no case.
psychology especially when it comes to the mmpi2 and writing a 25 page analysis on the results of that isnt nearly as hard science as maths or anything like that there is a lot more ambiguity with this.
Elaine thought she was going somewhere by saying that "questioning your partner about infidelity, when unfounded, can be IPV." Then she plays a deposition by Josh Drew, where he says that on over 50 occaisons, during the short time he lived in the penthouses, Amber had men over, while Depp was out of town. Also, *incoming footage of Amber and Franco cuddled up in the elevator*
this case is so monumentally important
the sooner society begins to understand abuse knows no gender the better off we will be
thats not what this trial is about
@@jakekayden4061 what's it about
There definitely is misandry in courts, at least in family courts. Mothers almost always get custody despite their ability to parent.
A coworker of mine's husband only got custody of his child after YEARS despite the mother being a drug addict, an alcoholic, and being openly neglectful. And he ONLY got custody after that time because he's now remarried.
Oh, and she also still has custody of her other 2 kids.
I guess this is cause of some social bias, women being perceived more nourishing and such than men, but also maybe it's the overcompensation, since not so long ago only fathers got the custody of the children after divorce/separation, and in some muslim countries courts, or in any radically religious countries, it is still the case - the reason being that fathers were/are the sole providers, but also were/are considered more important for upbringing than mothers (cause of disparity of economic power along with luck of legal security for women).
the reason why mothers get custody the most is because only 2% of divorce cases involve a custody battle. the other 98% is mutual agreement, including the father
Luckily I watched enough lifetime movies where a white woman was the villain and the abuser all along so it's easier for me to look at amber and believe what is being testified against her
Damn, lifetime really warned us about women abusers. Prob should have sat down and watched more of it with my mother, might have helped me later on.
That evil Delta Burke.....
Men commit crimes disproportionately plus depp is a drug and alcohol abuser so it's easy to see why he would be suspicious
Shit, being black had also earned me about this shit in regards to white women tears lmao
This isn't Lifetime
Just finished... man this whole bit was wild. Hasan, much love to you for defending men who get abused. I have a friend literally going through the courts right now for this exact scenario- the parallels between his case and this one is crazy.
Big difference though: my friend ain't rich. His lawyers are doing basically no discovery or prep since he can't pay them much, so he's basically on his own. If he wants the lawyer to actually what you expect them to do, it would cost about 25 grand.
Absolutely disgusting what is happening to my friend. Kind of a mild relief to see Depp getting some justice.
this is not abut AH being abusive and i highly doubt your friends case is about defamation like this one... Idk but it really feels like most people dont really understand how this case works or what it is about
What are you attempting to say? None of that has anything to do with this. Even if the friends case is simply an abuse case, Depp’s trial has at this point become an abuse case so OP is correct in their feelings, assumptions, opinions. And if it’s OP’s friend, I’m sure they know more about the case than you random commenter. So… please educate us on wtf your point was.
@@iitstre_4550 depps Trial hasnt become anything other than a defamation Trial you have apparently No Idea how the judicial system Works so what the fuck are you talking about.
31:50 she didn't go through any courts, she just wrote an article.
He has never been charged for abuse, he was just called an abuser.
What she expected was for Johnny to keep his head down and concede to her. that way she could go on with the notoriety of being spokesperson for women's right and DV and he would be like many men in the industry, who just lay low and wait for it to blow over. Either because it happened or because they have no proof it didnt.
BUT HE DIDNT DO THAT! no one was supposed to know about the in's and outs of their relationship. Johnny refusing to accept the accusations is the only reason she is in a court room.
Proves that shes either really dumb or a delusional attention seeker with victim mentality. Its Johnny Depp lol who in the right mind would think that he would ever let her get away with that.
Watching this has been scary because I have BPD and I can’t imagine hurting anyone physically, let alone my partner. Especially on purpose and with intent. I really hope that this case doesn’t add more fuel to the fire when it comes to the stigma around BPD. I already have a hard time telling others because I know they’ll automatically count me out as a friend. The stigma alone attacks one of the biggest triggers which is abandonment and loneliness. We feel alone most of the time and empty, so when we meet people we want them to love us so that we have that friendship. Then when we start struggling with monotony in relationships we begin to question everything and our value. We constantly interrogate others to know if we’re doing things right which then comes off as needy. It’s tough maintaining any relationship. Sorry for the rant guys.
Ok but also don't act like mental/emotional abuse doesn't happen or isn't a thing. Mental abuse can be worse than physical abuse.
@@emberdt7998 mental/emotional abuse happens in relationships even if no one in the relationship has bpd. Having bpd is about internal turmoil, not about trying to abuse someone either physically or emotionally. That’s another stigmatized notion around bpd. We are in more pain emotionally than anyone can understand and therefore most of the damage is done to ourselves. Most people with bpd will not hurt others because we can barely function from the pain we feel.
I do not have BPD but had a close friend at one time that did. I do see a lot of her in AH's mannerisms and the way she speaks. That said, please know that although I am 100 percent behind Johnny because I do feel he was defamed and I do not believe he is an abuser, watching this trial has not swayed my ability to feel compassion for those struggling with this disorder. I hope you find healing in your life and wish you nothing but peace. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
A
@@karlsmal7944 Would you say that a lot of your reactions are based on fear of abandonment? I’m asking because I’m curious about what causes the inflated reactions I’ve seen in a friend in the past. It always felt as though in the end it was mostly based on fear of being left…
It's really important that when we say "believe the victims" it is built in that we believe ALL victims, and that we believe victims with reservations for when facts come to light. Of course it was important to believe Amber then, it is also important to believe Johnny now.
It's funny how Hasanabi has extremists from both sides in his chat and he shoots all of them down.
He's very blunt but he has a lot of empathy, I can appreciate that.
I came to Dr. Curry.
I mean, er uh, I came because of Dr. Curry.
I mean I came for Dr. Curry.
😂😂😂😂😂
The whole "if this was not televised, she would win," is a... bad point (sorry). This is a defamation civil case, not criminal. If Johnny was arrested for DV against Amber, he would probably not be convicted, as there is no tangible proof, whereas with Johnny, Amber admits to hitting him, he has legit physical injuries that could probably be confirmed (i.e. was his finger cleanly cut off like with a knife or taken off with a bottle), etc.
For example, most victims of SA, myself included, do not get to go to court and see the person found guilty. Out of 1,000 SAs, 975 perps will walk free. This is a case of defamation, NOT DV. Whatever ruling does not mean that Johnny and Amber were/were not abusive to each other. Their DV victim status is still in the court of public opinion
Good points. Glad you’re safe. Question..Does that 97.5% include plea deals? From my understanding most assault charges lead to pleas and if it’s a first offense and not aggravated, jail isn’t typical. I left an abusive relationship in which I was charged with DV assault for grabbing my ex’s wrist when she pointed a knife at me. I never hit, choked, kicked, threw things at her but she did to me constantly. I made the mistake of being silent to the police to not incriminate her while she said I grabbed her...i decided to just take the plea to avoid going through the headache of seeing her in trial. It was a nightmare. I’m thankfully safe and have grown a lot from probation and my classes though.
@@justinwood9049 I'm so sorry, I was specifically talking about SA in mine (I'll edit it to make it clear...), as I was SA'd, not in a DV situation. I used it as an example, as I feel like the conviction rates would be somewhat similar (probably DV being more successful since police bring in the party that looks "less hurt" a lot of the times, or the man, even if they are not the abuser) and to illustrate that the "women claiming allegations and getting convictions constantly" is flawed logic. I know that the stat I was talking about does take into account plea deals as the 97.5% (it's from RAINN), but it does not take up that much of the 97.5% (only 50/1000 cases leads to an arrest). I'm so glad you are safe and healthy. I hope this trial will bring to light male victims of DV.
ik you posted this comment 2 years ago and its prob too late, but johnny was actually convicted in 2 other cases in london. This defamation case was basically the "third time's the charm"
Johnny Depp looks beaten down and exhausted.
Amouranth chiming in on a domestic abuse situation is so ironic in hindsight
In the video that Hasan mentions of Johnny slamming cabinets, that was directly after him losing 600 million dollars. Idk man, id be pretty pissed 😂
Why would she be video taping him anyway? She was pulling a con job
Azan called me out around 1:19:30 for watching this vid on 2x speed. Damn...
Lol it always throws me off when he calls out exactly what I’m doing…
He's doing to us what Casually Explained did to him.
As someone with experience with this assessment and other psychometric instruments it's pretty clear that Amber's lawyers didn't do much research. Alot of her questions she wouldn't ask if she research basic psychometrics and mmpi info... Idk where amber found these lawyers....
There are way better arguments they could have made to cast doubt if they did basic research on mmpi
Yeah it's pretty obvious the lawyer is just throwing out as many somewhat related, obscure questions as possible to make the psychologist seem less trustworthy when she answers "I don't know." Or something.
Yeah, professionally speaking, this assessment is a joke and we know it
@@Majstorovamargarita Can you give alternatives that aren’t considered a joke? Also is the mmpi2 used in this case also considered as such? Now I’m doubting Amber’s diagnosis but then again Dr. Curry did a clinical interview so that may have factored into her diagnosis.
Amber Johnny lies to defame. His demeanor reveals everything.
Im not an Expert in psychology but this witness seemed extremely biased. She basically spend like 2 days i guess with amber heard and read Notes of her prior Psychiatrist and then fucking came up with a 25 page analysis why she is the most terrible person in human existence with no redeeming qualities everything relating to trauma that she mentioned is apparently a lie and the only acceptable diagnosis is Bipolar also Bipolar people tend to file restraining orders and lie about domestic abuse and make defamatory claims towards their so. Like it was ridiculous how perfect her analysis matched exactly what the JD legal team wanted to hear.
LOL "That's NOT the most recent [MMPI] is it?"
Me, a Clinical Psychologist: 🤦🏼♂️"That's a dumb question..."
Get well soon, Hasan! COVID sucks. All the best from Vancouver, Canada!
Hello fellow British Columbian! :)
This is just a fan run page :)
@@nunpho good to know.
Eh, slamming cabinets can be a sign of abuse. But if it was in response to Amber egging him on constantly, it's not fair to assume or consider it abuse.
Too many people are using the term “abuse” far too liberally when it comes to this case. She’s clearly egging him on in the video and he’s losing it as a result. She is not being abused in that situation, he is.
@@Lexyboogie I guess they are talking verbally abusive which i kinda get but hasan said that its "mutual" which is so bizzare to me and also calling it 35/65 split abusive
Yeah and he lost like 600 million dollars that day, and she knew that had happened.
@@zeeistoolame And his mother was dying, if not already dead. At any rate, Amber timed the divorce to the day after his mother died.
@@hypewall if you thought normally instead of from incel brain you would get it
Can't wait for the Netflix or HBO dramatization.
Waiting for Hasan to crack up when Officer Sines says "no one likes us (LAPD)"
Bro this psychologist is bad af. She can Analyze me whenever she wants. 😳🥵
Keep it in your pants dude
Diagnosed "too thirsty for society."
Tell me you're based in the United States without telling me you're based in the United States.
It's not a non-lethal shotgun. It's LESS lethal.
I'd define them as "potentially lethal". 😂
Always got my popcorn 🍿 ready for this
Came for the muffins but couldn't find them.
I can't believe I'm going to try to listen to over two hours of this
I also listened to Asmongold's react for hours haha - DDoH
Her council is always trying to catch them in a gotcha, you lied moment. But they don’t ask the same questions 😆🤷♂️
@1:12:30 The officer is asked if they recognize a document which appears to be a Jordan Peterson video. Case Closed, the cop did it. No further questions your honor. 😂
LMAO when they said what sounded like “vine” too i was like “jordan peterson had vine? what’s happening ?” i felt like my world was falling apart for a second
This psychologist is way more attractive than Heard, not just the looks, holy smokes
“We do not detect crimes” I need that on a tshirt 😆
I have been following this for awhile. When it first came out there was a RUclips channel that went all out in disproving Amber when they came across a lot of evidence and then took their stand with Johnny Depp as being wronged and it was such a great channel to follow. They digitally re enacted a lot of these situations, I think even the infamous Amber Terd gate.
"It's still surprising that in 2021 during the height of the resurgence of COVID and variants that a government worker would wear a mask in a city where they were required by actual law issued by the mayor to wear a mask while in a government building at all times."
Yup, seen everything I needed to.
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Turds End
10/10 👌
When Hassan went off on the chatter at 14:53 I found myself saying “period and that’s on Covid”😂 bc period. It’s very obvious Johnny is the Victim and I understand feeling a certain way about men as a victim of abuse from them but when the tables turn we can’t be choosy. A victim is a victim and we must defend them!
TWO HOURS we eatin good tonight
first time viewer pleasantly surprised by this informative and nuanced take go off king
I have been putting off many of Hasan's videos because I knew it would be frustrating and living through deja vu having to hear misconceptions and speculations before arriving at the truth (I and many others been following this case awhile back before this defamation trial), but I'm glad he and others have already caught up to speed. I had to argue with a lot of supposed 'feminists' (a lot of whom are women themselves) when a lot of the evidence started popping off ages ago, and it's nice to see someone as prominent as Hasan educate tons of people on this issue.
Also thank you for the well edited video 👍 really helps!
I’m a survivor and I find it 100% plausible that a woman would lie about it.
15:00, 31:53 holy shit most average Hasan chatters. I'm just watching the video and seeing all this is sickening.
Literally trying to gaslight a mountain that will not move. Anyone with amber heard now is gaslighting central
the questions are so mindnumbingly dumb the entire time...
How are Amber Heard's defense lawyers so pathetic?
He was struggling so hard having to take the man's side in this equation lmao.
What is this attorney? Is she like a double agent for Johnny's legal team or something? Like, how is she this incompetent that she's literally running ground for the prosecution.
the cabinet slamming was him going through the stages of grief bc at that time his mom passed away
Heard's attorney reminds me of a Karen trying to reason around something she did wrong by saying things that are technically true.
Is extremely annoying when Hasan is talking at the same time the video is playing, I can't hear him or the court case, just pause the stream AZAN!
is this a joke
Then go watch The Original video and stop crying
that's just how he reacts to vids
@@EmanHowells I want to hear Hasan, and I can't hear him because the court case is playing over his voice
@@NeomiClarin no he doesn't, he pauses the video, all the time, he could literally do this and after he finishes talking just skip over the down time
amouranth be like: pick me, choose me, love me 🌸
I wonder if these attorneys are also annoyed because I can’t imagine how much this case may mess up Their careers 💀 especially with some of the dumb shit they gotta ask after amber has already lied and been proven lying so many times 💀
Everyone please, just remember that Amber Heard co-starred in Aquaman. The way that effected her is not her fault.
Amber Heard starred as a fish woman and Johnny Depp is a world renound Pirate. I think I know who will win a battle on the high seas.
Get fu ken real
1:05:18
You answered my question correctly, just as I asked it but… I’m going to show how incompetent I am… lol what an idiot.
She even said… “you didn’t fill one out correct,?” And when the officer said correct she said… I asked if you did fill one out… m🤦🏼♀️🫣
Honestly have no clue how Hasan can be bothered with his chat. I look at it for one second and have to look away, it's all just the same shit - would watch his streams if there wasn't the live chat honestly hahaha
It's just crazy how slaming cabinets for a man can be labeled as abusive but women do it and their just irritated that make no sense plus how is toxic masculinity a cause for misandry that like saying women aren't responsible for their own actions
I think it was more he broke the glass while yelling at her she’s wrong that people found aggressive in that clip
@@user-ws7cp3ec4g but again if a woman brakes something she's just expressing her anger so why when a man does it he's looked at as signs of abuse
@@Dione9000 toxic masculinity contributes to this bc men are made to seem like they're the only ones that can be big, strong, and scary and that women are weak and need protecting by men. so in that view - a woman slamming shit is not the same threat that man slamming shit is bc women are too weak and innocent to be truly threatening. so, yes, toxic masculinity
toxic masculinity literally infantilizes women and this (the response by others, not the situation) is a result of that like it's not crazy at all
@@BeautyAndOtterPops so women aren't responsible for their actions
Ah.. The saga continues
Dr. Curry (the psychologist) really reminds me of the journalist in Zoolander. Anyone else?
People who are having trouble with this one should keep in mind that anything learned on the computer should be able to be unlearned (on the computer)
Is nobody going to talk about how the cop was just randomly asked "Did you sleep with her?" Why did that come out? Why did it fly under the radar?
This is a solid police officer, I want her in my district! She is so matter of fact and self aware, I was impressed with the notebook question, never would have thought of that but it makes sense 🤷♂️
@@hickspaced2963 ??? so much of this video is the police officers testimony wdym lmaoo
@@Sqquidd. yikes i commented on the wrong one
@@hickspaced2963 OH lmao 💚
I’m really surprised for people super concerned with public opinion, there is no indication that objections were omitted. Unless I just missed it.
If cops did a protective sweep of Angela Flores’ home, they would have found her kids 🫤
I have bpd it’s only due to antipsychotic medication that I have stopped feeling suicidal and just literally have really no extreme high and low moods
ouch! ma bawls
That's what James Franco said when Elon Musk was enthusiastically hitting a fat rail off said balls. After which he smeared Amber Heard's feces all over his chest.
Amber Heard immediately swooned, Elon had passed her vibe check ✅
Hot! Hot hot hot hot hot hot hot
11:00 dear god please just pause the video i cannot listen to 2 people talking at once
21:06 pls i wanna cry
definitely painful 🥲 watched bc i thought he’d have more to say in reaction to what was happening on screen but he spent more time doing other things or talking over what was happening to discuss broader details
@@evanhines9723 bruh what the hell does that have anything to do with my comment 💀
Get off then
Cop: I go to many domestic violence incidents a day.
Also, does not fully understand nor fill out the forms. /1312
Is it just me or have the women been providing the biggest evidence in Depp’s overall favor? It is sooo weird to see people think this is a man vs woman issue when its a human vs monster issue.
OMG the police aren't on trial , get off it Bredehoft.
A Hasan Boze colab on this trial would be insane
That might turn into a debate stream though cause Boze has a strong bias and as of now, Hasan is neutral
@@arkkon2740 that's what would make a colab so entertaining though
Hasan needed to nap this day me thinks
I agree, but I do applaud his dedication to us the viewers. Hearing him getting a coughing fit hurts my heart.
Honestly I feel like the lawyers acted like this on purpose like this is ridiculous lmfao
hasan is just so amazing. thank you for sticking up for abused men and educating people.
I think i have a crush on this psychologist, how can a woman be this beautiful and intelligent at the same time!
people demonizing bpd ...bruh
The only people actually portraying people with BPD as beyond help are the people who justify abuse from people with BPD as "just a product of having BPD." The same exact people who pretend it's not their fault. It's a line of thought that follows the same exact logic as, "Men can't help it, women should just wear less revealing clothes."
The problem we talk about regarding people with BPD isn't that they have BPD, it's that a lot of them refuse to take responsibility for actions and behaviors that happen as a result of it and find healthier and more productive ways of coping with their symptoms. BPD or not, Amber Heard is an abuser, so full of herself and self-assured that she refused to take the advice given to her or accept/admit that she has done anything wrong.
People with BPD are not beyond help, but quite a few of them do pretend to be, and portraying it as if they can't help it is genuinely much more ableist because it leads to dismissing and shunning of people who have it, simply on the basis of them having it and nobody around them wanting to get hurt because they're "beyond help," "just like that," etc.
First time I have ever agreed with you on something is everything in this video.
did they stole their defense strategy from jody arias case? This just throw me back how the woman attorney cross examined the psych hired by the state
When I came to America I was sexually assaulted by a 13 14 year old girl I was a 8 year old boy and I don’t have the courage to love someone and I take medication to help and suffer from trauma that girl went to jail after that I go to therapy once a week and suffer from mental health :(
I hope that the therapy is helping. I can tell you that I was abused and if your trauma goes untreated it can get worse later in life. Please keep up with your therapy and I’m sorry that this happened to you.
Abuse has no gender. I'm a victim myself (female) and it's just so frustrating to see how little people believe he could be a victim too. It doesn't matter the gender of the victim or abuser
Or how rich and famous they are
Why do I have such a massive crush on her???!!!
The psychologist not Amber. Had to make that known.
@@meganyeager2355 shes smart, hot, and a good women.
a perfect women in a sense of course we would be attracted
I was about to say because you're a masochist until you clarified that you meant the psychologist. 😂
Also, I wish more people took time to get educated and be a little more empathetic. When you were talking about patriarchy, I made sure to time stamp it bc when I get into a conversation with someone and I want to help educate them… I’m going to pull
Out my “Hasan, educate these idiots so I don’t have to folder” and get your help. I have a lot of educating I need to do myself but I am someone who knows this, I don’t pretend to know everything. And I can be swayed with an actual coherent and educational conversation that helps me see if I maybe am being more biased or whatever.
Hasan…. From someone who may have been
In abusive situations, and also who has witnessed women use their roles as mothers, or victims against men in their lives… i live for your takes. Thank you
She’s so hot… lmfao
Depp found his next girlfriend.
@@jmsmys13ify I was waiting for them to wink at each other
She a baddie oml
All I was thinking
It has to be intentional, like it was calculated to cause Amber narcissistic injury. She's everything Amber is, beautiful, but also everything Amber isn't, intelligent and capable of more than looking pretty while repeating words someone else wrote.
You’re so intelligent, accepting, and passionate. I could watch you talk forever (until I had to go to work or sleep or ya know, but otherwise deeply enjoy your perspective)
"It's been eye opening how few people understand how American trials work. Where was this energy and shock during the Zimmerman trial?"
-Chatters 3:48