History of Malay Cape in Cape Town

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @VRuyt123
    @VRuyt123 5 лет назад +32

    For the people from South East Asia here; “Malay” is our shared language heritage (alongside with Portuguese creole) since it was the lingua franca amongst the people of East Indies archipelago. Our ancestors were exiles and captives brought by Dutch from all over their colonies in what is now Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and Mozambique. To box us into a modern nationality aside from a South African one is rather ignorant since we were born here and our identity came into being in Cape Town. We are descendants from many ethnic groups in Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and Mozambique. My own paternal ancestors were exiled from Ternate in the Moluccas (nowadays in Indonesia) but in their own due time they also intermarried with the other people in the Cape like the Khois, Europeans, South Asians and the Bantus. Anyway we Cape Malays nowadays are part of the Coloured community here in CT and for most part aside from our religious/cultural part we don't really get into touch with our distant past and we just identify more with the larger Cape Coloured community.
    We do still use some Malay words in our Kaaps dialect of Afrikaans like "trima kassie" (thank you), "kanalla" (hello/introduce), "lebarang" (Eid-ul-Fitr), "batja" (read), "ghielat" (lightning), "sambleeh" (slaughter in Halaal manner), "ghamiel" (pregnant), doekoem (shaman/medicine man). A slur word for us Coloureds is "gham" which is short from "ghamba" or slave and "haraam anak" is our equivalent for son-of-a-bitch. However aside from that I don't think we still preserve much of any particular culture/linguistic term from our forefathers. Our food habit is uniquely South African and aside from some obvious East Indies remnant like boboer (porridge), sosatie (satay), bobotie (curried meatloaf), blatjang (condiment), sambaal (pepper sauce) and denningvleis (simmered meat) most of our cusine is a mix from all the cultures that enriched us like samoosa, chutney and breyani from India or koesisters and melktert from the Dutch settlers.

    • @Op521479
      @Op521479 5 лет назад +3

      Nice info 👍

    • @dereeves8552
      @dereeves8552 4 года назад +4

      Thanks for explanation.

    • @careyqueen3606
      @careyqueen3606 4 года назад +3

      Great explanation. I think more teaching is needed amongst our Coloured and Cape Malay people. Im Coloured proudly so but I've heard from many Cape Malays distancing themselves from other Coloureds. This is a recent occurrence as in the past we were all just Coloured. We lived, succeeded and suffered together. Strangely enough I think there was more unity under apartheid than now. Same with other Coloureds calling themselves all sorts of classifications and claiming all forms of exotic lineages just to separate from other Coloureds.

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 4 года назад +2

      @@careyqueen3606 Hey Carey, the reason why Cape Malays "distanced" themselves were religious in nature as back in the previous centuries you don't "meng" as much as it is now if you're a Slam ou because we need to observe halaal (not me personally, I'm not religious) when going out for example . Apartheid actually broke that wall and since we were all classified as Coloureds, the intensity of contact between Cape Malays and the others in the Coloured community became bigger because religiously separated neighbourhood was torn down and people, both Slam ous and Kris ous were forced to live together, finding out similarities and breaking that wall. I actually like the idea of having more than just a big Coloured umbrella but different sub-culture that show our diverse roots and the cultual development of our community.
      I do agree that we should've learn much more about our history from schools and more discussion/discourse about our society should take place maar wat kan ek sê..

    • @careyqueen3606
      @careyqueen3606 4 года назад +2

      @@VRuyt123 Interesting thanks for giving an alternative perspective. I still think that some may use this excuse as a means of distancing since in recent years the term Coloured has come under alot of scrutiny. To a certain degree I can understand that because I myself identify with my Khoi and San roots but still call myself Coloured.

  • @quayyumhakimi8638
    @quayyumhakimi8638 5 лет назад +38

    Asalamualaikum I’m Malay from Nusantara Malaysia ..

    • @reynaldo5592
      @reynaldo5592 4 года назад

      "What are you meaning

    • @quayyumhakimi8638
      @quayyumhakimi8638 4 года назад +5

      Reynaldo I’m Malay from Nusantara (archipelago) Malay 😊

    • @mztv9319
      @mztv9319 4 года назад +3

      Asalamualikum Salam..org kampung melayu cape town.frm pahang malaysia

    • @saliemchristian3348
      @saliemchristian3348 3 года назад +6

      @@mztv9319 I'm from Cape Town, nd I love Pahang . I'm always watching videos from ur royal family nd love them to bits . The princes nd princesses r beautiful nd so r their parents . Its just a pity I don't understand Malayu. I know the sultaan is now the king of Malaysia for the next 5years. Mashallah.

  • @zaidsk786
    @zaidsk786 2 года назад +5

    Really appreciate malay people to save their Imaan even under 300 years of slavery
    May Allah make our Imaan like this people
    Ameen
    Also see of Ahmed deedat video on malay south african it will refresh and your imaan

  • @fuzlinplaatjies9115
    @fuzlinplaatjies9115 5 месяцев назад +2

    Aslm I am from Port Elizabeth a province next to Cape town which was part of the Cape colony in the old South Africa I'm known as a Cape Malay my name is FUZLIN

  • @patriot4786
    @patriot4786 5 лет назад +19

    Greetings from Indonesia to Cape Town Malays. "kita saudara". Cape Malays are descendants of Javanese people brought by the Dutch to South africa during the 18th century

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 5 лет назад +8

      You can’t pinpoint us from a single ethnic group. We are descendants from many ethnic groups in Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and Mozambique. My own paternal ancestors were exiled from Ternate in the Moluccas. The Malay and Portuguese creole language were our shared heritage here in the Cape Colony.

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 5 лет назад +2

      @@VRuyt123 yes we understand that you guys are mixed from the malay archipelago (during the time of your grandparents, there was no Indonesia) so we know that the term Malay doesnt pin you to the malay people (native to sumatra,malaysia, and borneo) but it means you are descendants of people from the Malay archipelago/Nusantara. Btw, I also have maluku blood. And quick question, do you still adhere to some culture/language from Mollucas? Such as food or customs etc? Or have you abandoned it totally?

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 5 лет назад +2

      @@patriot4786 Hi Patriot, the thing is that while most of us traced our paternal roots to those from the East Indies archipelago, we are also mixed with other people here in Cape Town. We Cape Malays are part of the Coloured community here in CT and for most part aside from our religious/cultural part we don't really get into touch with our distant past and we just identify more with the larger Cape Coloured community. My mum's own DNA test shows that her Y-haplogroup is only 40% South East Asian with 15% European, 28% Khoisan, 11% South Asian and the rest Bantu/Black. Traditionally we have lived in the Malay Quarter/Kampong Melajoe or now called the Bo-Kaap but ever since the Apartheid regime moved us away we have lost some of our own traditonal Cape Malay cultural aspects.
      We do still use some Malay words in our Kaaps dialect of Afrikaans like "trima kassie" (thank you), "kanalla" (introduce), "lebarang" (Eid-ul-Fitr), "batja" (read), "ghielat" (lightning), "sambleeh" (slaughter in Halaal), "ghamiel" (pregnant), doekoem (shaman/medicine man). A slur word for us Coloureds is "gham" which is short from "ghamba" or slave and "haraam anak" is our equivalent for son-of-a-bitch. However aside from that I don't think we still preserve any particular culture/linguistic term. Our food habit is uniquely South African and aside from some obvious East Indies remnant like boboer (porridge), sosatie (satay), bobotie (curried meatloaf), blatjang (condiment), sambaal (pepper sauce) and denningvleis (simmered meat) most of our cusine is a mix from all the cultures that enriched us like samoosa, chutney and breyani from India or koesisters and melktert from the Dutch settlers.

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 4 года назад

      @Retro Ren learn your facts: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Malays

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 4 года назад +2

      @Retro Ren this is after I wrote a whole paragraph about how "Malay" in our name is NOT about ETHNIC Malay but about the Malay LANGUAGE being the binder of the diverse community for the first hundred years before our language shift to Cape Dutch/Afrikaans. Smh people could not read.

  • @only2lolyta6lov35
    @only2lolyta6lov35 3 года назад +13

    So proud to be Cape Malay algamdullilah 😊💛💚

  • @LizaOhno
    @LizaOhno 4 года назад +19

    When you say including Malaysia (0:46) , then you mean "Malay Archipelago" not Indonesia Archipelago. Different.

  • @stateofmaharlikaphilippine5633
    @stateofmaharlikaphilippine5633 3 года назад +8

    Assalamualaikum from Your Malay brother from Philippines

  • @jempiliang
    @jempiliang 2 года назад +2

    Syaikh Yusuf Al Makassar Pahlawan kemerdekaan Indonesia pernah belajar di seluruh nusantara Indonesia, Gowa Makassar-Pandeglang Banten-Aceh-dan akhirnya sampai diasingkan di Cape Town, lahul Fatihah

  • @patriot4786
    @patriot4786 5 лет назад +19

    Tuan Guru means "honorable teacher" in Indonesian. Mashaallah ❤

    • @z_wawasan.k.s5481
      @z_wawasan.k.s5481 4 года назад +3

      done claim..bro

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 4 года назад +6

      @@z_wawasan.k.s5481 what do you mean done claim??? Its our language, and it also means the same in Malay. Learn indonesian/malay then you will know. And also, learn history of the Cape Malays about their origin so you will know, and so that you can see who is the claimer 😆

    • @z_wawasan.k.s5481
      @z_wawasan.k.s5481 4 года назад

      @@patriot4786 funny joke.

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 4 года назад +5

      @@z_wawasan.k.s5481 hahaha it seems that u dont have any knowledge in ur brain thats why u say its a funny joke 😂😂😂... No matter what facts I say, u will still be ignorant. So continue in beeing ignorant and also Stupid at the same time, so people will laugh at u 🤣🤣

    • @manusiabiasa6844
      @manusiabiasa6844 4 года назад +2

      @@patriot4786 padahal cape malay itu penduduk indonesia yg di bawa afrika selatan bahaha, malaysia cuman numpang nama

  • @maman663
    @maman663 24 дня назад

    syekh yusuf from makassar, sulawesi, indonesia. tuan guru from tidore, maluku, indonesia.

  • @thewayoflife6831
    @thewayoflife6831 4 года назад +9

    1667 saw the arrival of first Muslim political exiles banished by the Dutch to the Cape. These political exiles or Orang Cayen from Orang Kaya Malay word were Muslim men of wealth and influence who were banished to the Cape from their homeland in the East because the Dutch feared them as a threat to their political and economic hegemony. The first political exiles were the rulers of Sumatra. They were Sheikh Abdurahman Matabe Shah and Sheikh Mahmood. Both were buried in Constantia. From the very outset the Cape authorities accommodated the exiles away from Cape Town as they feared the exiles would escape. A tomb for these political exiles has been erected on "Islam Hill" in Constantia in the Cape.[6] Sheikh Abdurahman Matebe Shah used his exile to consolidate the teaching of Islam among slaves in the Cape.
    The next Orang Cayen was Sheikh Yusuf of Bantam or Muhammad Yusuf al-Maqassari who arrived on board 'De Voetboog' on 2 April 1694 along with his family and followers. They were housed on a farm in Zandvleit, near the mouth of the Eerste River in the Cape, far from Cape Town, on 14 June 1694. The Company's attempt to isolate Shaykh Yusuf at Zandvleit did not succeed. On the contrary, Zandvleit turned out to be the rallying point for 'fugitive' slaves and other exiles from the East. It was here that the first cohesive Muslim community in South Africa was established. Since the Sheikh and his followers hailed from Macassar, the district around Zandvleit is still known today as Macassar.
    in 1684 Yusuf was persuaded to surrender on the promise of a pardon, but the Dutch reneged on their promise and instead imprisoned him at the castle of Batavia. Suspecting that he would attempt escape, the Dutch transferred him to Ceylon in September that year, before exiling him to the Cape on 27 June 1693 on the ship Voetboeg. Yusuf, along with 49 followers including two wives, two concubines and twelve children, were received in the Cape on 2 April 1694 by governor Simon van der Stel. They were housed on the farm Zandvliet, far outside of Cape Town, in an attempt to minimise his influence on the DEIC's slaves.] The plan failed however; Yusuf's settlement soon became a sanctuary for slaves and it was here that the first cohesive Islamic community in South Africa was established. From here the message of Islam was disseminated to the slave community of Cape Town.Sheikh Yusuf died at Zandvliet on 23 May 1699. Thereafter the area surrounding Zandvliet farm had been renamed Macassar after his place of birth. He was buried on the hills of Faure, overlooking Macassar.
    The body of Sheikh Yusuf Tajul Khalwati was brought to Gowa at the request of Sultan Abdul Jalil (1677-1709) and was reburied in Lakiung, in April 1705. Then Sheikh Yusuf Allahu Yarham was awarded the title of National Hero by President Soeharto by Presidential Decree: Keppres No. 071 / TK / 1995, Date. August 7, 1995.
    in 27 September 2005 Sheikh Yusuf was posthumously awarded the Order or Darjah of the Companions of O. R. Tambo in Gold from south Arica gov. for his contribution to the struggle against colonialism. The Oliver Thambo award, namely the award of the National Hero of South Africa by South African President Thabo Mbeki to his heirs witnessed by the Vice President of Indonesia Haji Muhammad Yusuf Kalla (j.K) in Pretoria South Africa
    As honour to Sheikh Yusuf, a shrine had been erected over his grave and to this day Muslims in the area visit it to pay their respects.
    on 27 September 2005 Sheikh Yusuf was posthumously awarded the Order or Darjah of the Companions of O. R. Tambo in Gold for his contribution to the struggle against colonialism

    • @DenaihatiNetwork
      @DenaihatiNetwork  4 года назад +1

      rasheed muzzafar Tqvm for the information. I was in Cape Town few times.

    • @thewayoflife6831
      @thewayoflife6831 4 года назад

      @@DenaihatiNetwork Don't mention it. i hope that will be a pleasant trip in SA..Salam

  • @fazrul78
    @fazrul78 3 года назад +3

    keturuanan Yusof Makassar dan pejuang melayu menentang british...

  • @rajul6744
    @rajul6744 4 года назад +4

    This place name now is Macassar (makassar, South sulawesi).

  • @iskandarshah9164
    @iskandarshah9164 5 лет назад +8

    Assalamualaikum, salam dari Malaysia

  • @Tokden-ss4qu
    @Tokden-ss4qu 10 месяцев назад

    Assalamualaikum brothers ans sisters,
    I used to learn AlQuran reading from an IIUM (Malaysia) master student, his name is Loqman, came from Cape Town and stayedin our neighborhood Apartment Sri Tioman2, Taman Melati Setapak in late 90s.
    I knew from him that Malay community still using a few Malay words such as sumbahyang, sumbelih, bacha, sambal...
    I hope brother Loqman is doing good in his homeland.

  • @cometmoon4485
    @cometmoon4485 5 лет назад +12

    The Dutch colonisers tried to stamp these people out with banishment and slavery. But they stood no chance against the faith of the Muslim community, Mashallah! I'd love to visit one day.

    • @bcstudio4271
      @bcstudio4271 4 года назад +3

      Alhamdulillah because of that, Islam is spreading. Allah is always the best planner.

  • @sajasuka2layan232
    @sajasuka2layan232 5 лет назад +8

    Ma sha Allah Melayu ke mana saja pergi pun senang di terima di mana2 semoga aman malay di sana 👍👍👍🇲🇾🇲🇾

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 5 лет назад +3

      Mreka keturunan orang jawa yg dibawa Belanda ke sana pada abad ke 18

    • @johnyxxx12
      @johnyxxx12 5 лет назад +4

      Patriot malay not java

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 5 лет назад +4

      “Malay” is our shared language heritage (alongside with Portuguese creole). Our ancestors were exilees and captives brought by Dutch from all over their colonies in what is now Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and Mozambique. To box us into a modern nationality aside from a South African one is rather ignorant since we were born here.

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 5 лет назад

      @@johnyxxx12 "malay" means people from the Malay archipelago. He or she can be Javanese, bataknese, buginese, baweanese, banjarese, bataknese, etc.. many desertees sent to south africa were also javanese.

    • @patriot4786
      @patriot4786 5 лет назад

      @@VRuyt123 we understand sir 👍🏼

  • @Muaniq7
    @Muaniq7 4 года назад +6

    HIDUP MELAYU💪

  • @nooraidil5706
    @nooraidil5706 3 года назад +7

    Indonesia dan Malaysia bergaduh kerana jawa yang dengki

    • @zr_video5876
      @zr_video5876 2 года назад

      Jawa ato malaysia yg dengki bang?? Tau kah siapa yang selama ini meng klaim budaya orang jawa??🤣🤣

    • @shukriramlee
      @shukriramlee Год назад

      Jawa termasuk dalam group malay archipelago. Konsep tu berbeza dgn bangsa melayu.

    • @dore3faso6sido
      @dore3faso6sido 24 дня назад

      @@shukriramlee
      Malay archipelago adalah sebutan dari British sebelum abad 18 untuk Riau archipelago.

  • @bahari40
    @bahari40 4 года назад +4

    Intinya sama kaya suriname ini kejadiannya

  • @luyandamthabela3334
    @luyandamthabela3334 3 года назад +3

    What is the difference between Cape Malay and cape coloureds?

    • @careyqueen3606
      @careyqueen3606 3 года назад +3

      I've done a video on this but a Cape Coloured are all those mixed race people who originated from the former Cape Colony (Eastern, Western, Southern and Northern Cape). Cape Coloureds are generally Euro-Afro Asian. Cape Malays on the other hand are exclusively Muslim and are completely Asian. The only reason Cape Malays are considered Coloured is because of apartheid

    • @careyqueen3606
      @careyqueen3606 3 года назад +4

      Essentially there's more diversity amongst Coloureds than Cape Malays. FYI Christian Coloureds make up the majority of the Coloured community and have more variation in looks compared to their Malay counterparts

    • @ziyaadgatab7223
      @ziyaadgatab7223 3 года назад +4

      @@careyqueen3606 Not all of us are completely Asian dear, I'm also Afro Eurasian. Both my parents have Malay Ancestry, but my mother has Indian Euro and Khoisan(Through my grandmother) Ancestry. Yes you are right when you say we are predominantly Muslim😉

    • @gina3498
      @gina3498 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@careyqueen3606nonsense!🤣

  • @grc44_
    @grc44_ 3 года назад +3

    Anybody cape Malay I’ve not seen any cape Malays on this app or any app tbh

    • @only2lolyta6lov35
      @only2lolyta6lov35 3 года назад +4

      I'm cape malay😊💛

    • @grc44_
      @grc44_ 3 года назад +1

      @@only2lolyta6lov35 OMG HIII

    • @only2lolyta6lov35
      @only2lolyta6lov35 3 года назад

      @@grc44_ hello whats up whats side of the world you from

  • @fakyu9346
    @fakyu9346 4 года назад +1

    The word Malay in Cape Malay mean the archipelago, the tribe, the race, the language or what? Because Malay can have different meaning, even filipino can be Malay if we're talking about race, peope of Madagascar can be Malay if we're talking about language

    • @dore3faso6sido
      @dore3faso6sido 24 дня назад

      Only British colonialsm who call malay as race.

  • @u.wrahul2503
    @u.wrahul2503 3 года назад

    PROUD CAPE MALAY

  • @dore3faso6sido
    @dore3faso6sido 4 года назад +4

    all originated from makasar, jawa, tidore, bali, belitung, toba, bangka, sumba, because they oppose dutch colonialism, which on the peninsula malay, malasya now supports colonialism.

    • @dereeves8552
      @dereeves8552 4 года назад +12

      Such a dumb statement. Lol

    • @dore3faso6sido
      @dore3faso6sido 4 года назад

      @@dereeves8552 any from semenanjung?

    • @VRuyt123
      @VRuyt123 4 года назад +9

      As a Cape Malay guy, I would ask you to not bring any of us nor our ancestors life for your petty 20th century nationalistic stupid debate, trima kassie!

    • @dore3faso6sido
      @dore3faso6sido 4 года назад

      @@VRuyt123 so correct the title first

    • @amirfirdaus4207
      @amirfirdaus4207 4 года назад +4

      Nasionalis boleh kang tapi biar berpada pada..kaji dulu sejarah biar percakapannya lebih berfakta 😁👍

  • @mohd8584
    @mohd8584 4 года назад +3

    jawa x pueh hati😂

    • @mandmsmapper8400
      @mandmsmapper8400 3 года назад

      Jawa ada Suriname. Kalau ikutkan, seri je la.

  • @looooool3145
    @looooool3145 Год назад +1

    I will be honest, cape malays aren't Malays. Still, thanks for appreciating the Malay culture. Whatever.

    • @DenaihatiNetwork
      @DenaihatiNetwork  Год назад +1

      of coz dufferent after more then 400 years the 1sy malay brought to Cape Town but the spirit are really respected