Bungie will shut this great detection system down extremely quickly... because it highlights the level of incompetence they have shown with the cheating issues within this game..over the last decade. And worse still what happens if high level creators get implicated & exposed by this new system Anything that makes the studio look bad will get attacked by them mark my words. Best part if they do shut them down for trying to help Bungie will look super shady .. so it's a win win 👍
@@laggers54 they would have a better chance with kernel level anticheat at a minimum. Or if government made cheating in online games illegal that be awesome.
Considering how long this has been going on and getting worse, I think Bungie is laughing all the way to the bank. If you're still willing to give them money, they're still willing to do absolutely nothing to fix this game. Enjoy the cheaters!
They can. Bungie just doesn’t care. To much caring about casual trash and them blowing money on this game and not earning it like a real gamer which leads to caring more about money. Caring about stopping cheaters and keeping them out takes away money. There priority-make as much as we can and spend the least amount even if it means sacrificing stopping cheaters.
1 in 27 is a massive underestimate. Back when i played pvp like 3 4 years ago 1 in 4 matches of random public queueing in control had 1 or multiple cheaters in a team and the situation has exponentially gotten worse with time.
3-4 years ago there was no anticheat at all, cheating died down significantly after battle eye and a couple lawsuits against cheat companies from bungie, cheating didn't really start to pick up to those levels again until the last season or two and in particular this season.
Lol. You mean before we had any anti cheat? The whole reason we needed one. It's sad that the anti cheat software we do have dont pick up obvious shit like this. Like if someone gets a kill in round 1 with heavy, ban, if games are less than a certain threshold of length consistently, ban and review manually.
The sad truth is that the majority of lobbies now within both Trials and Comp (especially in regions like OCE and South East Asia) are absolutely filled with cheaters on both console and PC. A lot of people closet cheat with the use of a Cronus Zen or a Rewasd, but there’s still quite a few blatant cheaters using the new cheating software on PC (I think it’s called Clarity, but I can’t be certain), and there is also still an issue with Net Limiting. Regardless, PvP is becoming more and more of a joke every single day. The game is dying because of issues like this. I guess this is a what happens when you lay-off your entire security team, and have a mediocre anti-cheat.
Played againsta team of cheaters on console yesterday with my friend. They were on a 162 game win streak and boldly stated to us that we weren't going to win. Looked em up and one had a seasonal kd of 6.7 and an account that only had a grimoire of 400. Anyone with that low a griomoire is immediately sus, especially on a win streak like that. And I don't know what is wrong with Xbox players but they are the most toxic assholes lately.
You can not cheat and use hacks on consoles, your console will get permanently banned and un-useable, A.K.A "you'll have to buy another $500 console" ... so you meant PC, a platform where cheats and hacks are 1000000000% free to use without your PC getting banned
@SSF4DudleyTheXMann23 Say you don't know how cheating works without saying you know how cheating works. Cheating has been on consoles since Wolrd at War.
@@JonnyAnon You can stream cheats from pc to console. AI cheats. Being more and more popular. Saw a demonstration how it works. The aimbot with trigger bot was scary. Stopped playing pvp games. Impossible to enjoy anything anymore.
Iron banner was filled with cheaters. I had doubts on some players, but others were really obvious. Most of my iron banner matches had at least one cheater in it. This is getting out of hand. I'm not playing PvP that much, but it removes all interest I have in it.
There are WAY more cheaters than 1 in 27. The smart cheaters just use wallhacks and aimbot. The worst place for cheaters is in sixes like in Iron Banner.
People think cheaters are full package 24/7. I think people need think different. Many people only play with whalls. And they are good hiding it. They never openly stare at people thru walls. Bet some peoples favourite streamers are doing it.
I'm not fantastic at PVP, but I dipped my toes into Trials a few weeks ago to see if I could score some fresh serotonin and maybe some fun new loot. Ran into two games in a row with cheaters. Was told by a teammate that both myself and the other teammate were garbage and he bailed on the match. Haven't been back since.
Welcome to the Destiny 2 community. If you aren't dealing with cheaters, you're dealing with assholes who think they'll earn a spot on an e-sports team
I do the same when I get garbage teammates. I blame them constantly in chat and shoot there body's to motivate them to try harder. I am tired of doing hard carries in trials.
Cheaters are running rampant in D2 and it's not just Trials. Played a 50 wave onslaught match about a week ago and one wank stain was blatantly cheating. They kept one shotting the bosses. Pathetic stuff but looks like Bungie too scared to ban them. Population will drop even more than what it is now.
@@rockthompson3476 lol no... because they still sell like crazy online you can view tones of happy players posting reviews of not just for D2 but all the major FPS games Xim still sells like crazy Cheating went nowhere in D2
The cheaters I see most are the ones with 95+% sniper rifle headshots and infinite sniper ammo. Sadly this system doesn't look for that, and it also can't check for aim bot in general or infinite health/shield that I've seen on some cheaters. In my last trials weekend I played probably 30 games, I reported a number of players that were obvious or borderline. The following 3 times I logged into the game I got the alert that action had been taken. So 1/10 and thats just on the cheaters bungie bothered to catch. Plus matchmaking is such crap right now that your likely to match against the same team you just lost to back to back and be forced to play against the cheater multiple times. When that happened I'd just yeet myself off the map and get it over with, why waste my time, and even then the cheater would fly across the map and kill me sometimes before I could even kill myself. Battle eye may as well not exist tbh, I struggle to believe its even there.
I'm lucky i can manage flawless solo. Dunked on a cloudstrike ximmer. The guy did not miss UNLESS you were in his face. I just put on stasis and a fusion and dunked on him. Got my flawless
*He-Man:* Wait, Mer-Man streams? *Skeletor:* Yeah. He usually streams himself using a aimbot while doing trials. *He-Man:* He streams while using a bot in trials? Usually you get banned by doing that. *Skeletor:* Yeah, hehe. You'd think so....
The game AI and algorithm is the cheat. It's designed to make the game always challenging. The cheater is just tapping into the game AI that allows unlimited everything. The only way to stop cheating in video games is to go back to manually programming AI.
1 in 27? no way the lost time i played trails wi got destroyed from just one player and hi shamelessly hard cheated "self revive" that's the main reason that i quit pvp in this game.
One of these hackers added me the other day, and tried to convince me he wasn't 😂 caught him ruining people's games while browsing twitch and even watched a streamer res farm him because his teammates realised he was cheating and they decided to help the enemy team. He's already changed his name 3 time since being on my friend list, gonna see how long before his account disappears.
I seriously think this is an underestimation. There are a ton of people who cheat that do not use anything detectable at all. An aimbot, wallhack, and some common sense and you can cheat indefinitely in this game without ever getting banned.
I haven’t played trials in a few years. I decide to use lmg to play for once and I ended up playing the same team about 6 times. Only winning 2 of those matches.
It's more like 1 and 3-5 games lol. Just various types of cheaters, not all these turds are flying aimbotters. Some is walls, aimbots, speed boost, melee altering etc. First game last night was a person names lol that had infinite sniper ammo and aimbot.
Me neither, butnah, prolly unless you're un a group of 3, and until the population goes back up.. maybe this coming episode, or even summer, hopefully, it's going to be insanely rough. I'm running into them in regular control and rumble games, it's nuts.
in destiny 2 pvp i mostly play control. 99% of my teammates just run and camp the 1 flag at beginning of a match and dont help ever at the middle flag. so i would say stupit players ( like 99% of my teams) are just noobs who get fu**ed up theyre asses while have no clue how to play pvp
I am assuming Bungie don’t share this detail/data willingly and if it allows an individual to be identified than probably breaks a number of data laws across the globe, I’m not convinced of its accuracy - their calculations are logical but their source data collection I’d question
Hopefully as the player population shrinks, some of these cheaters will also leave. I'm not sure what they get out of flexing to nobody if everybody leaves the game, and/or lobbies are just cheater vs cheater at that point. Nobody to, "prove you're better" to if everybody quits pvp.
I think this is one of the reasons the player count is low. Bungie doesn't car about cheaters. But let a player progress the cookie event card without paying. Patched in an hour
1 out 27 is very conservative. the majority of the pervasive cheating is the ability to see through walls and never miss headshots. those are harder to catch and if you have even a medium level of skill with those cheats you become unbeatable, unless they are facing off against someone with the same cheats. this is not even including the ximheads.
I believe its ever worse in other pvp game modes (at least 95% of control games have cheaters on them). This is being like this since a long time, not just now. Bungie doesn´t care becouse new accounts means more money and that´s all they care about. The worst are not the hard cheaters, its the other ones with zim or werever or with tone down cheats that are hard to spot, and most of this cheaters will send you messages caling you trash or camper or werever becouse they think they are good, so anoying.
Had a cheater who spawned heavy bricks, and when i killed him, dont know how, he dropped heavy. So yeah i killed him 4 times that round cuz he had self rez. Lol, plus heavy round. Chain reaction is hella unfortunate for hand holders
PVP is dead, and i know that most of pvp players won't be agreed with me (ofc, most are cheaters ...). But from my experiences, i can' say 80% are cheating in quickplay, and 95% in trials. Yea, that is insane.
I've complained about players using special and heavy weapons as primaries on the bungie forum. I've also complained about players getting their supers very early in a game and using them multiple times. I stopped complaining about it because the usual reply is it's not possible or it's because there is too much special and heavy ammo in pvp. I've played against teams in trials where they've used there supers twice or 3 times when mine is 25%. I stopped playing trials because I can dedicate Fri to Mon and get 3 wins. Most games are blowouts. Also matching is broken. I'm usually teamed with users worse than me.
Please understand; were a small indie studio and cant afford a QA and security team. Your complaints are heard. Were going to adjust Ace of Spades and it loses Memento Mori's damage bonus.-Bungie
Oh come on, ppl get 3 kills with heavy all the time. Especially b4 nade launchers got nerfed with proxy nades. I regularly get 3 kills with an lmg with 4th times and killing tally. Most I got is 4 though, and you gotta be near perfect with your ammo to do that. But with nade launchers I've seen it many many times, hell Gjake did it all the time while streaming.
They're WAAAY understating the amount of cheaters, most don't actually use infinite heavy and rapid fire snipers and stuff. Most will use aimbot and wallhacks. I've actually only ever ran into a single person doing the crazy stuff and it was in quickplay and I play quite a bit of Trials. The crazy one was floor infinitely burning everyone with them flying around everywhere and them changing their name to crazy offensive stuff. I still haven't received the ban hammer message after reporting them either. I have though recieved quite a few of those messages after reporting ppl I suspected to be aim botting, ones who never miss a shot with a 90something percent headshot ratio and a 4+K/D on Trials report. Or ppl that get shit on for 4 rounds and all of a sudden turn into a pvp god. THOSE are the most common cheaters I see, and this guy won't detect them. Then there's the XIMers, they won't show up either and that's definitely cheating as well. So, taking that into account, I'd say Lucky's right and it's more like 1/10, or 1 in every 2 cards instead of 3, maybe 1/14 at the least.
So it seems our community hasn’t realized this yet lol….. if this keeps happening, over and over - throughout the years, and then all of a sudden bungie “locks down” on pvp cheaters - what does that tell you? When this is occurring, bungie is in 100% scramble re-focus mode and it isn’t on pvp. It happens every time the game is in doom/gloom mode.
Ever since I started playing destiny it was a problem and if your good at pretty much any decent level of PvP your gonna match a cheater I promise I’ve matched them comp why would I try trials lol 😂
How many cheaters have you faced recently????
I play on PS5 and have never faced a cheater.
not playing pvp
i dont pvp, i recently play trails to finish 20 wins seasonal challenges for bit sweet brightdusts havent seen a cheater im on series x
@@LUCKYY10P enough to where I'm clearing out hard drive space on my old Xbox 1 to install d2 just for trials.
Bungie will shut this great detection system down extremely quickly... because it highlights the level of incompetence they have shown with the cheating issues within this game..over the last decade.
And worse still what happens if high level creators get implicated & exposed by this new system
Anything that makes the studio look bad will get attacked by them mark my words.
Best part if they do shut them down for trying to help Bungie will look super shady .. so it's a win win 👍
We've reached a point where we see cheaters even in console quickplay.
Dogs ain't even hiding it anymore.
Any other anticheat would ban someone the second heavy ammo passed a threshold or was used in a non heavy round.
It’s almost like the cheats have out smarted the software. Cheats are never going to be solved
@@laggers54 they would have a better chance with kernel level anticheat at a minimum. Or if government made cheating in online games illegal that be awesome.
Ran into cheaters in multiple games of control this evening. And kept being matched with one for several games.
Considering how long this has been going on and getting worse, I think Bungie is laughing all the way to the bank. If you're still willing to give them money, they're still willing to do absolutely nothing to fix this game. Enjoy the cheaters!
I never run into cheaters anymore, since i stopped playing ;)
The number is higher. Those numbers are low-balled to allow for the highest possible projection.
Idk how people like this can track all this cheating... but not create a quick anti cheat, or a cheater sabotage/counter cheat
They can. Bungie just doesn’t care. To much caring about casual trash and them blowing money on this game and not earning it like a real gamer which leads to caring more about money. Caring about stopping cheaters and keeping them out takes away money. There priority-make as much as we can and spend the least amount even if it means sacrificing stopping cheaters.
Who says this is bungie tracking this? It isn't, this is what our community does. Bungies job....
That would require less time filling the cash shop
@@datthebigboss4532 i meant, why doesnt a 3rd party create the anti cheat, and then imploy it in the game
1 in 27 is a massive underestimate. Back when i played pvp like 3 4 years ago 1 in 4 matches of random public queueing in control had 1 or multiple cheaters in a team and the situation has exponentially gotten worse with time.
3-4 years ago there was no anticheat at all, cheating died down significantly after battle eye and a couple lawsuits against cheat companies from bungie, cheating didn't really start to pick up to those levels again until the last season or two and in particular this season.
Trials now is unplayable.
Lol. You mean before we had any anti cheat? The whole reason we needed one. It's sad that the anti cheat software we do have dont pick up obvious shit like this. Like if someone gets a kill in round 1 with heavy, ban, if games are less than a certain threshold of length consistently, ban and review manually.
Battle eye has myopia and astigmatism
WOAH THE DEAD GAME WITH AN EVEN DEADER PVP IS SUFFERING FROM CHEATING FOR THE 10TH YEAR IN A ROW???
14 super kills and not banned is criminal.
The sad truth is that the majority of lobbies now within both Trials and Comp (especially in regions like OCE and South East Asia) are absolutely filled with cheaters on both console and PC. A lot of people closet cheat with the use of a Cronus Zen or a Rewasd, but there’s still quite a few blatant cheaters using the new cheating software on PC (I think it’s called Clarity, but I can’t be certain), and there is also still an issue with Net Limiting. Regardless, PvP is becoming more and more of a joke every single day. The game is dying because of issues like this.
I guess this is a what happens when you lay-off your entire security team, and have a mediocre anti-cheat.
it's 1/3. Bungie doesn't give a damn.
Played againsta team of cheaters on console yesterday with my friend. They were on a 162 game win streak and boldly stated to us that we weren't going to win. Looked em up and one had a seasonal kd of 6.7 and an account that only had a grimoire of 400. Anyone with that low a griomoire is immediately sus, especially on a win streak like that.
And I don't know what is wrong with Xbox players but they are the most toxic assholes lately.
You can not cheat and use hacks on consoles, your console will get permanently banned and un-useable, A.K.A "you'll have to buy another $500 console" ... so you meant PC, a platform where cheats and hacks are 1000000000% free to use without your PC getting banned
@SSF4DudleyTheXMann23
Say you don't know how cheating works without saying you know how cheating works.
Cheating has been on consoles since Wolrd at War.
@@SSF4DudleyTheXMann23BS.. you consoles can buy a Xim anywhere. The majority of cheaters are on console.
@@JonnyAnon You can stream cheats from pc to console. AI cheats. Being more and more popular. Saw a demonstration how it works. The aimbot with trigger bot was scary.
Stopped playing pvp games. Impossible to enjoy anything anymore.
Iron banner was filled with cheaters. I had doubts on some players, but others were really obvious. Most of my iron banner matches had at least one cheater in it.
This is getting out of hand. I'm not playing PvP that much, but it removes all interest I have in it.
Anyone ever encountered a player that turned graviton lance into an SMG?
There are WAY more cheaters than 1 in 27. The smart cheaters just use wallhacks and aimbot. The worst place for cheaters is in sixes like in Iron Banner.
People think cheaters are full package 24/7. I think people need think different. Many people only play with whalls. And they are good hiding it. They never openly stare at people thru walls. Bet some peoples favourite streamers are doing it.
I'm not fantastic at PVP, but I dipped my toes into Trials a few weeks ago to see if I could score some fresh serotonin and maybe some fun new loot. Ran into two games in a row with cheaters. Was told by a teammate that both myself and the other teammate were garbage and he bailed on the match. Haven't been back since.
Yea some one raged at me asking why I was playing and spamming bum lol
Welcome to the Destiny 2 community. If you aren't dealing with cheaters, you're dealing with assholes who think they'll earn a spot on an e-sports team
@@chelsthegameruiner8669to be fair tho when you’re toxic your team stars to try harder😂
@@criticallymoist420 or throw completely
I do the same when I get garbage teammates. I blame them constantly in chat and shoot there body's to motivate them to try harder. I am tired of doing hard carries in trials.
Cheaters are running rampant in D2 and it's not just Trials. Played a 50 wave onslaught match about a week ago and one wank stain was blatantly cheating. They kept one shotting the bosses. Pathetic stuff but looks like Bungie too scared to ban them. Population will drop even more than what it is now.
Bungie don't care = They don't care. Simple
This doesn't include the thousands of controller players using Cronus
Cronus no longer works. Sony an MS took care of that months ago.
@@rockthompson3476 lol no... because they still sell like crazy online you can view tones of happy players posting reviews of not just for D2 but all the major FPS games
Xim still sells like crazy
Cheating went nowhere in D2
And xim
Xim still works , there’s plenty of console players using M&K through xim adapters
@@rockthompson3476 you don’t know what you’re even talking about. Stop spewing misinformation in 2025 lil bro
The cheaters I see most are the ones with 95+% sniper rifle headshots and infinite sniper ammo. Sadly this system doesn't look for that, and it also can't check for aim bot in general or infinite health/shield that I've seen on some cheaters. In my last trials weekend I played probably 30 games, I reported a number of players that were obvious or borderline. The following 3 times I logged into the game I got the alert that action had been taken. So 1/10 and thats just on the cheaters bungie bothered to catch. Plus matchmaking is such crap right now that your likely to match against the same team you just lost to back to back and be forced to play against the cheater multiple times. When that happened I'd just yeet myself off the map and get it over with, why waste my time, and even then the cheater would fly across the map and kill me sometimes before I could even kill myself. Battle eye may as well not exist tbh, I struggle to believe its even there.
I did control and then ran into a cheater 4 times in a row.
Never going to lighthouse as a solo but you can’t even get 3 wins nowadays without the “flying zip zip” witherhoard burning crap
people should really pick up that bungie doesn't care
Stupid take and they don’t own battle eye, the cheating exists in every game. Log into cod and see
I can say console is seeing some cheaters too. Like net limiters and ximmers
I’m console player and there are a ton of ximmers for sure.
I’ve had 0 cheaters
@@criticallymoist420 you’re lucky because I had a net limiter ruin my flawless earlier. He was blinking around and not taking damage at times.
Reported a few cheaters and got the reports back from bubgie they were banned. Mostly snipping near 100% when they have a .4kd before that.
I'm lucky i can manage flawless solo. Dunked on a cloudstrike ximmer. The guy did not miss UNLESS you were in his face. I just put on stasis and a fusion and dunked on him. Got my flawless
*He-Man:* Wait, Mer-Man streams?
*Skeletor:* Yeah. He usually streams himself using a aimbot while doing trials.
*He-Man:* He streams while using a bot in trials? Usually you get banned by doing that.
*Skeletor:* Yeah, hehe. You'd think so....
Bungie: Cheaters add to the player count too!
Just went flawless solo last weekend no issues, I haven’t noticed THAT many
The game AI and algorithm is the cheat. It's designed to make the game always challenging.
The cheater is just tapping into the game AI that allows unlimited everything. The only way to stop cheating in video games is to go back to manually programming AI.
Too bad this doesn't work for normal crucible. I bet there are even more cheaters there.
There are at least as many, but it's like Iower stakes, so, not really a point imho
These are Evil Parlays
1 in 27? no way the lost time i played trails wi got destroyed from just one player and hi shamelessly hard cheated "self revive" that's the main reason that i quit pvp in this game.
We need a stats based anti-cheat and to see bans in game. 'Guardian has been kicked for cheating' would be an amazing sight.
Can’t be bothered by cheaters if I never play.
I don't understand how people could care enough to cheat
One of these hackers added me the other day, and tried to convince me he wasn't 😂 caught him ruining people's games while browsing twitch and even watched a streamer res farm him because his teammates realised he was cheating and they decided to help the enemy team. He's already changed his name 3 time since being on my friend list, gonna see how long before his account disappears.
Also his main account seems to have gotten a ban and is on the list d2hackerreport posted. I expect his new account to make the list for next week.
sadly he'll just make a new account if they're using XBL and get right back to cheating.
I seriously think this is an underestimation. There are a ton of people who cheat that do not use anything detectable at all. An aimbot, wallhack, and some common sense and you can cheat indefinitely in this game without ever getting banned.
They need to be working for Bungie
its 1 in 3 stop ballooning stats
Love it cuz i legit play and once in a while some guy starts giving me crap how bad iam.... when i get destroyed by un explained situation
I haven’t played trials in a few years. I decide to use lmg to play for once and I ended up playing the same team about 6 times. Only winning 2 of those matches.
this is the new perk weighing controversy with all these numbers and percentages. its just the pvp version
In other news, sky is still blue.
It's more like 1 and 3-5 games lol. Just various types of cheaters, not all these turds are flying aimbotters. Some is walls, aimbots, speed boost, melee altering etc. First game last night was a person names lol that had infinite sniper ammo and aimbot.
Cod warzone ranked has multiple cheaters in every single match lol
Not true.
1 in 2 matches I face cheaters. Mostly aimbotters. From time to time, wallhackers
Can't wait for the interview.
so what your saying is that before i could never get to the lighthouse. now its ill never be able to? greeeeaaaaattttt.
Me neither, butnah, prolly unless you're un a group of 3, and until the population goes back up.. maybe this coming episode, or even summer, hopefully, it's going to be insanely rough. I'm running into them in regular control and rumble games, it's nuts.
Because coding for hacks is constantly changing just like anti cheats. Those who ruin things deserve no hands.
Hopefully with the restructuring sony will actually implement a new anti cheat system
in destiny 2 pvp i mostly play control. 99% of my teammates just run and camp the 1 flag at beginning of a match and dont help ever at the middle flag. so i would say stupit players ( like 99% of my teams) are just noobs who get fu**ed up theyre asses while have no clue how to play pvp
I think its around a 37 percent chance of encountering some sort of cheater
Lower than I thought, figured it would be like 1 in 10 at least
It is, that estimate is way high.
its much worse than that
1 out of 27 games of trails on average!!! - my Reaction- I’m shocked shocked well not that shocked!!!!!
Yeah played with and against one named surplus and didnt know he was cheating until I played against him
I am assuming Bungie don’t share this detail/data willingly and if it allows an individual to be identified than probably breaks a number of data laws across the globe, I’m not convinced of its accuracy - their calculations are logical but their source data collection I’d question
5:53 evil parlay
Hopefully as the player population shrinks, some of these cheaters will also leave. I'm not sure what they get out of flexing to nobody if everybody leaves the game, and/or lobbies are just cheater vs cheater at that point. Nobody to, "prove you're better" to if everybody quits pvp.
naah, ive played 27 games this week, and 13 of them were against cheaters
If it ain't cheaters its toxic players. This game is overwhelming filled with both.
I play d2 and tarkov and 1 in 27 games for a cheater is a wet dream for tark players 😅
so much for paywaling trials
There is no such thing as hard or soft cheating. There is just cheating. Cronus isn’t cheating.
Chronus and XIM is cheating dude
I think this is one of the reasons the player count is low. Bungie doesn't car about cheaters. But let a player progress the cookie event card without paying. Patched in an hour
Bungie doesn’t care as long as the cheater buys the current expansion
1 out 27 is very conservative. the majority of the pervasive cheating is the ability to see through walls and never miss headshots. those are harder to catch and if you have even a medium level of skill with those cheats you become unbeatable, unless they are facing off against someone with the same cheats. this is not even including the ximheads.
1 in 27?
Thought it would be lower than that
30% of the online FPS playerbase cheats
This is why I don't play vrs
Again plsyers have to do Bungos job.
I believe its ever worse in other pvp game modes (at least 95% of control games have cheaters on them). This is being like this since a long time, not just now. Bungie doesn´t care becouse new accounts means more money and that´s all they care about. The worst are not the hard cheaters, its the other ones with zim or werever or with tone down cheats that are hard to spot, and most of this cheaters will send you messages caling you trash or camper or werever becouse they think they are good, so anoying.
I’m on console, so nothing much outside of the occasional ximmer/chronus user. Been seeing a gang load on YT from the PC lobbies. Sucks for them.
Double melee is cheating moving 1000 rpm’s is cheating
More like 20 out of 27 matches. 😂🤣
1:27 odds are pretty good considering you only need 7 wins. Shouldn’t be that big of a problem. Look at cod.
Had a cheater who spawned heavy bricks, and when i killed him, dont know how, he dropped heavy. So yeah i killed him 4 times that round cuz he had self rez. Lol, plus heavy round. Chain reaction is hella unfortunate for hand holders
Also I Lost that game
PVP is dead, and i know that most of pvp players won't be agreed with me (ofc, most are cheaters ...). But from my experiences, i can' say 80% are cheating in quickplay, and 95% in trials. Yea, that is insane.
It's always amazing to see people in stream chat say we'll how u know there cheating lol
i blame the opium cheat 🦇
I've complained about players using special and heavy weapons as primaries on the bungie forum. I've also complained about players getting their supers very early in a game and using them multiple times. I stopped complaining about it because the usual reply is it's not possible or it's because there is too much special and heavy ammo in pvp. I've played against teams in trials where they've used there supers twice or 3 times when mine is 25%. I stopped playing trials because I can dedicate Fri to Mon and get 3 wins. Most games are blowouts. Also matching is broken. I'm usually teamed with users worse than me.
More like one in every 2 or 3 Trials game.
In Control, it's one every game. Effing ridiculous.
I said it years ago that D2 is just a bunch of cheaters lying about cheating because you need to get gooooooood!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And do they mean those who are hard cheating or including soft cheating or lag and network manipulating cheating
Not if you're on console. 🎉
I’m still surprised people play this game! Get on marvel rivals and start a new addiction.
Please understand; were a small indie studio and cant afford a QA and security team. Your complaints are heard. Were going to adjust Ace of Spades and it loses Memento Mori's damage bonus.-Bungie
2025 : new year, new cheat i guess
Oh come on, ppl get 3 kills with heavy all the time. Especially b4 nade launchers got nerfed with proxy nades. I regularly get 3 kills with an lmg with 4th times and killing tally. Most I got is 4 though, and you gotta be near perfect with your ammo to do that. But with nade launchers I've seen it many many times, hell Gjake did it all the time while streaming.
The grenade kills, Phoenix at the top. I have played against him and i can 100% guarantee he cheats. I have clips.
They're WAAAY understating the amount of cheaters, most don't actually use infinite heavy and rapid fire snipers and stuff. Most will use aimbot and wallhacks. I've actually only ever ran into a single person doing the crazy stuff and it was in quickplay and I play quite a bit of Trials. The crazy one was floor infinitely burning everyone with them flying around everywhere and them changing their name to crazy offensive stuff. I still haven't received the ban hammer message after reporting them either. I have though recieved quite a few of those messages after reporting ppl I suspected to be aim botting, ones who never miss a shot with a 90something percent headshot ratio and a 4+K/D on Trials report. Or ppl that get shit on for 4 rounds and all of a sudden turn into a pvp god. THOSE are the most common cheaters I see, and this guy won't detect them. Then there's the XIMers, they won't show up either and that's definitely cheating as well. So, taking that into account, I'd say Lucky's right and it's more like 1/10, or 1 in every 2 cards instead of 3, maybe 1/14 at the least.
That’s pretty bad
When bungie has hardware supremacy cheaters like to play that more idk why
So it seems our community hasn’t realized this yet lol….. if this keeps happening, over and over - throughout the years, and then all of a sudden bungie “locks down” on pvp cheaters - what does that tell you? When this is occurring, bungie is in 100% scramble re-focus mode and it isn’t on pvp. It happens every time the game is in doom/gloom mode.
Yeah I see cheaters the last 3 weeks ive played I seen 1 different each week.
People are still playing trials?
Why are people acting all surpised about this lol
battleye doesn't work and hasn't worked for a long time
Ever since I started playing destiny it was a problem and if your good at pretty much any decent level of PvP your gonna match a cheater I promise I’ve matched them comp why would I try trials lol 😂