Battle of Poltava, 1709 - Charles XII of Sweden attempts to break Peter the Great's Russian Empire

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  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +41

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    🚩 After a string of victories, Charles XII of Sweden decided to take the war to Russia. If successful in reducing Peter the Great's army, the Swedes would likely take Russian cities of Pskov, Novgorod, and possibly Arkhangelsk. Charles XII would also likely gain control over Courland and Polish Livonia, as well as becoming protector of Poland. In return Poland would receive territories lost to the Russian in the latter half of the 17th century.

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад +2

      Always great to have a video of You!

    • @vedantsanas1932
      @vedantsanas1932 11 месяцев назад

      HANNIBAL, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER PLEASE

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 10 месяцев назад +6

      2 minutes of ad, geez... And always for those vomitive P2W games looking for their new addicts... How can you support such awful business? The end always justifies the means, right? Pathetic. Unsubbed.

    • @ВикторМельник-д9ц
      @ВикторМельник-д9ц 10 месяцев назад +1

      A lot of strong simplifications, that is, VERY briefly. In particular, Peter the Great's first loss at Narva occurred due to the fact that there were many regiments of Streltsy in the army, that is, old-style troops. While the regiments of the new European system showed an excellent side, but there were too few of them. And when he retreated, he did not just step back to "fill the wounds", but directly engaged in the speedy reform of the army.
      And how cute when Menshikov is mentioned, you see, he killed Cossacks and civilians, and Karl apparently distributed buns to everyone? You do realize that in that historical period, the concepts of war were different?
      Mazeppa and his Cossacks changed their oath to the tsar, to remind them how they dealt with traitors to the crown in Europe?
      Have the Swedes become observers? Carl Linnaeus, Eva Ekeblad, Daniel Carlsson Solander and many other great Swedes, as well as ordinary Swedes who worked and created the state and its fruits with them, are very surprised. Some people are so fond of beautiful words that they overshadow real events.
      And yet, I do not know what a UVRAG is, but there is a word овраг - ravine.

    • @remypascal4872
      @remypascal4872 10 месяцев назад

      Can you please make one day such a video of the battle of Rschew.
      It is not the usual time period. But it is maybe the hardest Battle in history...

  • @TheStrategos392
    @TheStrategos392 11 месяцев назад +880

    Charles XII reminds me of Phyrrus of Epirus. An exceptional General who never knew how to exploit his victories into political gains. His incessant war-monging led to his demise.

    • @SolidAvenger1290
      @SolidAvenger1290 11 месяцев назад +122

      As Maharbal would say, "So the Gods don't grant all their gifts to one person. You know very well how to win a victory, Hannibal, but you don't know how to use it.” What a waste of good men and horses by Charles into this unnecessary slaughter at Poltava. Given the many factors HM mentioned during this video, he should have taken Piper's suggestion of taking Saint Petersburg close to Swedish territory and humiliated Peter, given his name was attached to the city after he had acquired it in 1703.

    • @Davscabecinhadeguidao
      @Davscabecinhadeguidao 11 месяцев назад +67

      Charles was stubborn like Phyrrus, even though I think Phyrrus was even more stubborn when facing the two greatest powers in the Mediterranean: Carthage and Rome.
      He lost and went to war with Macedonia and then Spatha and Argos! He really was Alexander's cousin, as he had the same hunger for conquest but lacked patience.

    • @johnpijano4786
      @johnpijano4786 11 месяцев назад +28

      ​@SolidAvenger1290 to be fair. Hm explained how Hanmibal had a strategic plan to win against Rome.
      If only he had his 25k reinforcements he would have controlled all of southern Italy.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +52

      Charles XII was a mediocre diplomat, but you cant call him a war monger, he never started a war.

    • @michaelsinger4638
      @michaelsinger4638 11 месяцев назад +1

      He also lacked siege equipment or supplies to move on Rome

  • @mvonwalter6927
    @mvonwalter6927 9 месяцев назад +151

    I'm descendent of a surviving Swedish infantryman at Poltava. He lost several brothers there on the field. He was taken to St. Petersburg to work hard labor building the Peter and Paul fortress. Fortunately for me when he was finally released he was young enough to return home and have a family.

    • @666Kaca
      @666Kaca 7 месяцев назад +13

      He built some beautiful buildings

    • @NorthSea-xb7jk
      @NorthSea-xb7jk Месяц назад

      how you know that story ?? 300 yrs have gone

    • @mvonwalter6927
      @mvonwalter6927 Месяц назад +3

      @@NorthSea-xb7jk It has a few sources. The main one being a letter to government explaining circumstances as to why the person could not muster again because of health issues from being captive. Other document substantiate this.

  • @Leaffordes
    @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +270

    6:26 Charles XII's invasion of Saxony was so sneaky we didn't even get to see it.

    • @alltat
      @alltat 11 месяцев назад +27

      It was the cunning Swedish tactic of using really, *really* long bayonets.

    • @lugerun
      @lugerun 11 месяцев назад +2

      They also made use of their flux capacitor to timetravel to estonia and ukraine. Really really sneaky

    • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
      @JoeSmith-sl9bq 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, no one even know Ukraine existed yet

    • @Alvaro89Rus
      @Alvaro89Rus 10 месяцев назад +2

      yeah, video made it look like Saxony surrendered for no reason

    • @Alvaro89Rus
      @Alvaro89Rus 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@lugerun Estonia as term may not existed at time, but Ukraine was, and for centuries already.

  • @SuksuNa
    @SuksuNa 10 месяцев назад +245

    Moral of the story. Never fight with anyone named "the great".

    • @sergeyn87
      @sergeyn87 9 месяцев назад +42

      But he wasn't the great that moment yet.

    • @chroniccles
      @chroniccles 9 месяцев назад +27

      @@sergeyn87 it's a joke.

    • @MDMAx
      @MDMAx 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@chroniccles internet is an serious business

    • @dorn0531
      @dorn0531 5 месяцев назад

      It worked for Caesar

    • @hawawah8671
      @hawawah8671 4 месяца назад

      Unless said man's name is Antiochus """"""the Great""""""

  • @seryivolk6697
    @seryivolk6697 10 месяцев назад +174

    18:39 шведы не знали о существовании 4 редутов (вертикали "Т") решение об их строительстве было принято накануне битвы поэтому наличие этих редутов стало неприятным сюрпризом для Карла, но с другой стороны эти редуты не успели построить полностью... Поэтому первые 2 редута взяли достаточно легко, а вот третий редут находился в радиусе досягаемости огня артиллерии из редутов горизонтали " Т" и защитников поддерживал огонь пушек остальных редутов
    Автор, историческая неточность: шведам удалось взять только 2 первых редута, остальные устояли... Шведы сумели их обойти по флангам и в промежутке между укреплениями, понеся значительные потери, но взять их не удалось

    • @Ek_Ekvil
      @Ek_Ekvil 10 месяцев назад +58

      бесполезно.... на западе не нужны факты истории, у них сказки и бредни вместо истории. Что этот ролик что в целом все остальные связанные с историей практически все до единого либо полностью либо на 90% лживы и не совпадают с реальной историей, порой их выдуманная лживая история настолько нелепая и не логичная что поражаешься тyпoсти западных обывателей верящих в эти их бредни. Лично я давно уже заметил что пропаганда и лживая история запада рассчитана исключительно на дayнов, и увы на западе легко находит тех кто эти бредни жpёт, впрочем у нас тоже не мало таких, пусть и меньше, но тоже не мало и с каждым годом всё больше приближаясь до уровня запада по уровню дeбeлизмa. Опять же, тут в ролике вообще полный бред и выдумки выcacаные из пальца, начиная от расположений "ставок" заканчивая движением полков, про кол-во уж молчу, типично западное "орды русских всех победили только числом" по этому квадратиков Петра 1 нарисовали раз так в 5 больше чем было, достаточно иметь хотябы чуть чуть мозгов чтоб догадаться что в те времена никаких манёвров и тем более активных наступлений в боевых порядках по лесам тем более ещё и через речушку быть не могло в принципе, а тут на видео все полки по лесу и рекам ходят как по плацу... *рукалицо*

    • @freethinker8603
      @freethinker8603 10 месяцев назад +17

      @@Ek_Ekvil you sound like the russian firehose of falsehoods

    • @ErmakBrovar
      @ErmakBrovar 10 месяцев назад +42

      @@freethinker8603you display a shocking inability to grasp basic concepts.

    • @freethinker8603
      @freethinker8603 10 месяцев назад +7

      @ErmakBrovar the moon is made of cheese and yesterday is tuesday in the evening on friday

    • @ErmakBrovar
      @ErmakBrovar 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@freethinker8603 you are the best illustration to Danning-Kruger effect. You are a fool who considers smart people to be fools because they don’t share your foolish opinion.

  • @fatherofhistory
    @fatherofhistory 10 месяцев назад +25

    On June 1709, at the Battle of Poltava, Peter the Great's strategic defenses and growing Russian resilience thwarted Charles XII's risky attack, marking a turning point in the Great Northern War. This decisive victory ended Sweden's dominance and ushered in Russia's rise as a major power in Eastern Europe.

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад

      The turning point occurred before Poltava. Sadly, Charles XII had been defeated strategically much earlier. His great debacles and unfortunates began in 1708, when he cut off the connection with Lewenhaupt's supply column.

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 11 месяцев назад +85

    Well done HM. Charlie 12 has always fascinated me. This and Narva round out his story well. Although some of his Polish stuff would be nice too. May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +9

      Cheers man, thank you. I will cover more of his battles for sure.

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@HistoryMarcheLOVE YOUR CONTENT 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

    • @furii4308
      @furii4308 11 месяцев назад +3

      "Charlie 12" lmfaoooo

  • @nemo3874
    @nemo3874 10 месяцев назад +19

    20:17 first two redoubt was not yet complete when Swedish forces attacked, that's why they heard sounds of working builders at night

  • @kallecederstrom9543
    @kallecederstrom9543 11 месяцев назад +138

    As a swede it’s really nice to see these great wars and battles finally get covered as they are very important but not talked about that much.

    • @david-468
      @david-468 11 месяцев назад

      It’s because most of what’s known by you in Sweden is propaganda

    • @Zakariya3603
      @Zakariya3603 10 месяцев назад +4

      Sweden has the most impressive military record of the Northern states until the 1800's.

    • @SolidAvenger1290
      @SolidAvenger1290 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Zakariya3603 true. Once Napoleon had entered the stage a century later, the Swedes didn't want to be fully dragged into conflicts that didn't meet the limited manpower they could possess. Finland & Pomerania were their last holdouts from their decades of war. They wanted to preserve whatever territory they had left, given how Charles XII put them in a massive hole after Poltava. (similar to how Justinian later screwed the Byzantine Empire)
      However, they used diplomacy with the Coalition to at least keep France's ambitions at bay until 1805, when they saw that Napoleon gave Hanover to the British, which pissed off the Prussians. With the French inching closer to Pomerania, they had no choice but to declare war.
      The Swedes still posed as a very strong force despite their smaller numbers, but the French succeeded by defeating Prussia in the South at Jena and Auerstedt. They managed to get their revenge in 1814 at Leipzig under their new king, Bernadotte. Like Poland, Sweden still remains an unknown yet very influential country that can bring back the glorious military record it once had before Poltava, especially when it recently joined NATO..

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +11

      Lol Sweden is nothing compare to Russia Sweden lost it's power because of Russia 😂😂​@@SolidAvenger1290

    • @Ebash-Banderu
      @Ebash-Banderu 10 месяцев назад

      This has never been forgotten in Russia.)

  • @Sanj1n
    @Sanj1n 11 месяцев назад +79

    I love History March videos, great quality and excellent narration.

    • @artemkirkhmaier484
      @artemkirkhmaier484 6 месяцев назад

      Quality of what? Look at the simple things.. They put down Russian Empire on the map in 1709. I cant stop laughing

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 11 месяцев назад +101

    This makes me think of Sabaton's song "Poltava" about the battle and how ruinous it was for the Swedish Empire.

    • @johntitor_ibm5100
      @johntitor_ibm5100 10 месяцев назад +23

      Rode to certain death and pain,
      Swedish soldiers met their bane,
      sacrificed their lives in vain -
      Poltava!

    • @irohito622
      @irohito622 10 месяцев назад +18

      Russian armies blocked their way
      20,000 lost that day
      They bled the ground
      Peace they found
      Theres no sign of victory, King Carolus had to flee
      Leave the land
      Leave command

    • @vinculaomega5283
      @vinculaomega5283 10 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@johntitor_ibm5100
      Genom rök och damm de red
      Slogs för livet led om led
      Tappra män till himlen steg
      Poltava!
      It may be bias as I'm Swedish, but I believe that the lyrics in Swedish are so much more impactful. This is true for the whole album. "En livstid i krig", instead of just describing the 30 years war in the abstract, it describes the life of a individual soldier.

  • @ItzBotz
    @ItzBotz 11 месяцев назад +76

    That day was Crazy dude... Charles XII was so determined

    • @SolidAvenger1290
      @SolidAvenger1290 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yet like the kings of old...out of his own depth given the logistical situation and missed opportunity to humiliate Peter by closely following what Piper suggested. His balance of geopolitical politics and military science faltered into his advance of Somlmensk

    • @david-468
      @david-468 11 месяцев назад +1

      Just remember we’re hearing charles side of the story , not the unbiased truth of what happened

    • @vencislavgynev8282
      @vencislavgynev8282 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@david-468
      What?😂 The only thing biased is your own comment.

    • @david-468
      @david-468 8 месяцев назад

      @@vencislavgynev8282 sure whatever , difference being I would admit to my bias not state them as fact

    • @Confirmed105
      @Confirmed105 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@david-468 Thing is that the swedish was probably one of the best countries in the world during that time to document simple facts, like exact timestamps when specific events happened or an estimate of how many died (specifically swedish casualties ofc).
      They took their military accounting VERY seriously, which makes the swedish pov quite a reliable source when it comes to getting a clearer picture of how the battle went, specifically from how the swedes wrote down the movements and orders of the swedish army ofc.

  • @ИосифСталин-л6з
    @ИосифСталин-л6з 10 месяцев назад +87

    14:00 There were less than 10 thousand Cossacks and civilians in Baturin (citadel was small), how could Menshikov kill 15 thousand? Archaeological research has been carried out in the city many times and in total just few hundred victims of the massacre have been found.

    • @2005batman
      @2005batman 10 месяцев назад +36

      Son, when you grow up, you will learn the difference between facts and… THE TRUTH, ha-ha!

    • @ТАДАМ-ю4ж
      @ТАДАМ-ю4ж 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@2005batman2005

    • @nloo
      @nloo 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ТАДАМ-ю4жviu shi v 256?

    • @JustAsPlanned1
      @JustAsPlanned1 10 месяцев назад +16

      A guy with a Stalin pfp downplaying Russian war crimes? Color me surprised.

    • @ТАДАМ-ю4ж
      @ТАДАМ-ю4ж 10 месяцев назад +29

      @@JustAsPlanned1 war crimes bro you saying like it was chivalry times and everyone were honorable

  • @TrentBattyDrums
    @TrentBattyDrums 11 месяцев назад +29

    When Historymarche posts a new video, I click. My favorite part of the week!

  • @indridcold1689
    @indridcold1689 11 месяцев назад +12

    This channel deserves well over one million subscribers. One of the best history channels on yt.

  • @РомаКраев-м8в
    @РомаКраев-м8в 10 месяцев назад +12

    ‎ И перед синими рядами
    Своих воинственных дружин,
    Несомый верными слугами,
    В качалке, бледен, недвижим,
    Страдая раной, Карл явился.
    Вожди героя шли за ним.
    Он в думу тихо погрузился.
    Смущенный взор изобразил
    Необычайное волненье.
    Казалось, Карла приводил
    Желанный бой в недоуменье…
    Вдруг слабым манием руки
    На русских двинул он полки
    И с ними царские дружины
    Сошлись в дыму среди равнины:
    И грянул бой, Полтавской бой!

  • @AmirSatt
    @AmirSatt 11 месяцев назад +40

    9:14 This is the most badass quote imaginable

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 10 месяцев назад +7

      Seems like comment showing unusual modesty to me. Basically, yeah this dude has shown flair, but I’m not going to let him wipe the floor with me.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +13

      Peter The Great is a savage 😎😂

    • @kindlingking
      @kindlingking 10 месяцев назад +8

      Peter the Great in general. That's why he's called "the Great".

    • @phixter
      @phixter 9 месяцев назад +3

      Peter the coward who ran from every battle. xD

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 9 месяцев назад +16

      @@phixter lol Peter The Great who made Swedish Empire collapse cope 😂

  • @JalalulDin-b2q
    @JalalulDin-b2q 11 месяцев назад +54

    In 1708 and 1709 the plague desolated Sweden Livonia. In 1710 the disease appeared in Sweden; 30,000 persona perished by it in Stockholm, and other parts of the kingdom did not escape. Historians relate, that in the latter part of the last century and beginning of the present, the sweating sickness and great plague in Sweden destroyed several hundred thousand lives, in consequence of which Sweden is less populous than formerly

    • @ComboMuster
      @ComboMuster 11 месяцев назад +4

      It was actually covid-19 but it was not discovered yet 😁😁😁

    • @david-468
      @david-468 11 месяцев назад +1

      This is propaganda about the war they aren’t gonna mention plagues especially if it’s swedens perspective which this is

    • @frankyan9596
      @frankyan9596 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@ComboMusterCovid-09😂😂

  • @tyler7549
    @tyler7549 11 месяцев назад +12

    Hey HM! I hope you never lose drive when creating content for this channel! You are my FAVORITE RUclipsr!

  • @f4llen1759
    @f4llen1759 10 месяцев назад +335

    Вы заметили? Когда шведы захватывают крепость - это освобождение, а когда русские его возвращают - это оккупация. Игра слов и никакой лжи.

    • @magos2610
      @magos2610 10 месяцев назад +7

      А вам можно смотреть вражеские документалки?

    • @Dufi8787
      @Dufi8787 10 месяцев назад +105

      ​@@magos2610чисто из спортивного интереса валера, поглядеть наксколько сильно исказят историю.

    • @magos2610
      @magos2610 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Dufi8787 а каждой стороны своя версия, поэтому это нормально. Впредь не смотри вражеский контент, а то донесут

    • @Dufi8787
      @Dufi8787 10 месяцев назад +105

      @@magos2610 мог бы и посмешнее пошутить, не то совсем тухло. Хотя в Швеции донос это нормальная тема, ах да бедолага там это называют быть бдительным членом общества 🤣

    • @magos2610
      @magos2610 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Dufi8787 ирония в том что ты во вражеском софте

  • @marskalkblixten
    @marskalkblixten 11 месяцев назад +20

    Great video as usual! Would love to see more Great Northern War or Spanish Succession videos, maybe Kliszow or Ramillies?

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +8

      I'll definitely do more GNW battles.

  • @dwaneburke9672
    @dwaneburke9672 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for your support! It truly means a lot.

  • @joshlesure3196
    @joshlesure3196 11 месяцев назад +4

    Another excellent video! This channel continues to feed my passion and interest for history. Looking forward to more!

  • @nuztotosha
    @nuztotosha 11 месяцев назад +2

    Grazie/Thanks! 😊

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the support! So kind of you.

  • @neorxnawanges6564
    @neorxnawanges6564 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you. Love the content. Love the quotes included in all your videos. Great productions everythime.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 11 месяцев назад +11

    Another great video! love these Great Northern War videos!

  • @VH25
    @VH25 11 месяцев назад +4

    Huge fan of these videos and I enjoyed this one all the way to the end! Can’t wait to see more Charles the 12 vids!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад +10

    YAY! welcome back man! Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @lugerun
    @lugerun 11 месяцев назад +5

    I dont know what a redout is, but the third redout what a legend!

    • @MegaTigrus
      @MegaTigrus 10 месяцев назад +4

      Редут (франц. redoute, от лат. reductus - удаленный, укрытие) - отдельно стоящее фортификационное сооружение закрытого типа, обычно (но не обязательно) земляное, с валом и рвом, предназначенное для круговой обороны от противника (противника).

  • @Bark777
    @Bark777 10 месяцев назад +17

    Yeah I remember this battle from grade school. 😥
    We were 9 or 10 years old and was learning about Swedish history and more recently about the "Stormaktstiden".
    All the boys became dead silent when the teacher told us that Charles were defeated. Some of the girls started crying uncontrollably.
    My best friend a the time, Erik, suddenly stood up, yelled "För helvete!" and threw is books into the floor and stormed out the class room. We didn't see him again until Monday the following week.

  • @dynamiK_1K
    @dynamiK_1K 11 месяцев назад +8

    Been Waiting History marche

  • @КонстантинДюпин-з7я
    @КонстантинДюпин-з7я 10 месяцев назад +9

    Досмотрел только до 18 минуты, чушь какая-то. Шведы хотели захватить Москву, но в битве при Полтаве у них не было ни войск, ни орудий, ни пороха, ни снарядов, как они хотели дойти до Москвы, по-моему это неумелое оправдание проигрыша сильнейшей армии Европы того времени перед рисским Великим царем.
    Дополнение: вырезка из Википедии "план короля, предусматривающий скрытный подход и неожиданную атаку русского лагеря, исключал использование тяжёлой артиллерии, именно поэтому шведская артиллерия практически не использовалась в битве". Просто тактика была такая, которая оказалась проигрышной.

    • @KenFullman
      @KenFullman 2 месяца назад

      So Wikipedia says the same as this video. The plan was to catch the Russians by surprise and they couldn't transport most of their artillary. It was a losing tactic but also exactly the story told by this video. So I don't understand why you call it nonsense. Maybe you switched off before those details were discussed?

  • @DSS-jj2cw
    @DSS-jj2cw 10 месяцев назад +5

    Oh fatal ambition! Charles overconfidence is unbelievable.

  • @horacioguillermobrizuela4295
    @horacioguillermobrizuela4295 5 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing story, as always in this wonderful channel.

  • @JohnDoe-id1es
    @JohnDoe-id1es 9 месяцев назад +3

    Alexander Dmitrievich Balashov, was sent as a representative in some official capacity, i cant remember exactly which, of Tsar Alexander I to Napoleon, who was studying a map of Russia at the time, prior to his invasion. In reply to Napoleon's question- "What is the best road to Moscow?", Bolashov replied- "The roads to Moscow are many. The one chosen by Charles XII went through Poltava".

  • @Hirome_Satou
    @Hirome_Satou 9 месяцев назад +2

    I can't help but notice that in every other video about any other historical battles, the comment section is really cool, lots of people just happy to 'experience' a little piece of military history. In every video where the topic involves Russia however, it's, well, different.

  • @Leaffordes
    @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +12

    7:45 Such a move could also leave Poland and its new pro-Swedish king Stanislaus I exposed to Russian attacks and result in Saxony and Denmark re-entering the war, which would put Charles XII back to square one; Stanislaus I's Poland, albeit not yet strong at this time, was supposed to play a part in the invasion of Russia.
    Before Charles XII abandoned his march towards Moscow for Ukraine in late September 1708, which left Lewenhaupt's army unprotected and eventually led to cut lines of communication with Poland, the campaign had actually gone quite well for him. However, after that, misfortunes struck Charles XII one after another. What many people don't realize is that the campaign had, more or less, already failed even before Poltava; most likely, Charles XII sought battle on that fatal day to beat the Russians, so that he would be able to retreat unmolested into Poland-perhaps he had foreseen a situation similar to that of Napoleon a hundred years later-and there regroup with Krassow's and Stanislaus I's armies before attempting a new invasion. This would most likely also check the Danes and Saxons who had, even before Poltava, begun planning a re-intervention with Charles XII being so far into enemy territory.

    • @Ek_Ekvil
      @Ek_Ekvil 10 месяцев назад

      if you study history using ridiculous and deceitful history textbooks and Western propaganda... then you can draw the same conclusions as you, but you are mistaken because you are based on lies. If you want to know the truth, throw away the history textbooks invented in the West, throw away all the Western media. Nowhere in the world are there as many lies as in Western countries (Europe and North America)
      .
      As for history and truth, the Swedish king went south because he was promised mountains of gold and tens of thousands of armies in alliance with Sweden, first Mezape (the governor of Western Ukraine who betrayed Moscow), later the Turks (Ottoman Empire) promised him.
      In fact, when the Swedes came for what they had promised,
      -
      Mezape, who betrayed Moscow, found himself practically alone since his own people did not support him, and the military strength of those who came to the Swedes was negligible.
      - The Ottoman Empire, having promised to start a war against Russia, actually did nothing because it was not ready, in addition, the Russians were already ready for war with the Ottoman Empire.
      Most likely, the Swedes are accustomed to the fact that in Europe, from the mere presence of the Swedish army, entire countries enter into alliances and declare war (Denmark, etc.), immediately coming to Russia and the south - no one cared and no one considered it to be any weighty argument, conceit and ignorance of the truth destroyed the Swedes,
      however, the West never learned lessons from this and always lived in conceit and ignorance of the truth.
      Ultimately, the king of Sweden fled cowardly to the Turks.

    • @aksh2161
      @aksh2161 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ukraine did not exist then.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@aksh2161 I don't care.

    • @Ek_Ekvil
      @Ek_Ekvil 10 месяцев назад

      @@aksh2161 уверен? мой комментарий удалили по политическим мотивом твои власти, так что вся история которую ты знаешь так же является лживой, а любая правда как мой комментарий твои власти удаляют.
      sure? my comment was deleted for political reasons by your authorities, so the whole story that you know is also false, and any truth like my comment is deleted by your authorities.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video! The Great Northern War was a fascinating event that changed the world forever.

  • @AndreasConfirmed
    @AndreasConfirmed 10 месяцев назад +5

    Respect to the defenders of the third redoubt!

  • @bustersanderson9727
    @bustersanderson9727 11 месяцев назад +46

    The sad thing is that this whole debacle from Sweden could've been easily avoided had Charles XII been a better politician and statesman. He loved war and battle a little too much and never really took the fragility of the Swedish Empire into consideration.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +4

      If a alliance attack you because you are young and untested. How can war be easily avoided?

    • @GoodmanEldwin
      @GoodmanEldwin 10 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@kirgan1000the alliance was already beaten, Charles bit more than he could chew

    • @gregrenox9644
      @gregrenox9644 10 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@kirgan1000The alliance aready sue for peace, hell even before and after poltava and Charles back from Ottoman exile, all in the alliance are already try to send a several peace offer too Charles. Yet the guy turn all of them down and decide to attack Norway costing his life. If a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people and not his ego, are you considering it he is a peaceful Ruler?.

    • @Sulimaaren
      @Sulimaaren 10 месяцев назад +2

      To be honest, the fall of the swedish empire was probably inevitable, only a matter of time since manpower and resources was starting to play a greater role than before. Charles hastened the decline, but also made sure they went out with a bang.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@gregrenox9644 What was the peace? Hand over part/whole Swedish Balticum.
      Decide to attack Norway, I know the winner are writing the history, but come on, Denmark-Norway did declare war on Sweden.
      "a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people"
      Do you judge Peter on the same scale? That guy did start the war, that lasted 21 year....

  • @Simple_historyy
    @Simple_historyy 11 месяцев назад +33

    BEST history channel out there history marche! Good video, really like these 1700 hundreds videos would be cool if you could cover Gustav 3s Russian war 1788-1790 and maybe especially the naval battle “second battle of svensksund” biggest naval battle ever fought in terms of naval vessels participating, and it turned out in a decisive Swedish victory 🤩 🇸🇪

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +3

      The Battle of Svensksund would be quite epic indeed, with the Swedish archipelago fleet being pretty much backed into a corner by their pursuers after initially escaping the encirclement at the Viborg Bay 1790. The Swedish king decided on a major gamble and made his final stand-to win or die.

    • @melkor3496
      @melkor3496 11 месяцев назад +4

      I second this I really hope he covers that war and more Russo Swedish wars overall. There is a lot of content you can use in them.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +3

      Let's also see the the Battle on the Ice in which Sweden, Norway and Finns got defeated by the Russian Prince Alexander Nevsky Uraaa🇷🇺💪

    • @Dreadnoutn
      @Dreadnoutn 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@JDDC-tq7qm bro, it was battle on Neva river in 1240. In Battle of the Ice Alexander fought with Livonian knights.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Dreadnoutn yes sorry my bad thanks for your correction 👍

  • @videogames6024
    @videogames6024 10 месяцев назад +2

    Хороший канал , подача материала детальна и правдоподобна . Автору благодарность .

  • @legalna2rp
    @legalna2rp 11 месяцев назад +53

    A good film which shows how Russian Empire broke Swedish Empire.

    • @krzysztofmichniewicz6247
      @krzysztofmichniewicz6247 10 месяцев назад +20

      How Russia broke swedish empire and became an empire*.

    • @legalna2rp
      @legalna2rp 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@krzysztofmichniewicz6247 Oczywiście.

    • @Plutarh1917
      @Plutarh1917 10 месяцев назад +2

      I think the Mongol invasion of the 12th-14th centuries gave the first impetus to this. Both China and Russia were a group of territories forever fighting each other over small pieces of land, not paying much attention to what was happening outside the lands they knew. Only when a huge empire came, under which almost everyone fell, and then, after 2.5 centuries, were liberated, tendencies towards unification and conquest of their neighbors gradually began to take shape in Russia and China.
      It seems to me that that historical period greatly influenced both countries. And the Northern War only determined which of the two empires, Russian or Swedish, would survive and continue to develop.

    • @Злобныйприцеп
      @Злобныйприцеп 10 месяцев назад

      @@Plutarh1917 No you are not right. At that time you were not very different from people today. The Swedes were just as arrogant and stupid. Russia has humiliated you and continues to do so to this day, but you are not getting smarter, you all dream of defeating Russia.

    • @016.kazinakibafjal2
      @016.kazinakibafjal2 10 месяцев назад

      Russians always seem weak at first. But as you keep fighting them, they keep fighting without giving up and in time they are the ones who come out victorious and the attackers devastated

  • @melkor3496
    @melkor3496 11 месяцев назад +8

    Hope you can do more battles from the great northern war like Fraustadt and battles that take place after Poltava.
    Really loving these videos and hope you dig into and make videos on more Swedish comforts that are relatively unknown such as Russo Swedish war with Gustav III and the Finnish war which resulted in us losing Finland to Russia. I’ve heard from many historians here that we actually could have won that war but we had many incompetent military leaders in command which hurt our chances badly.
    Regards from Sweden.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +2

      Awesome suggestions. Duly noted! Thanks for watching.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@HistoryMarche Gustav III was a fool that did get involved with a war with Russia, but the Swedish army (yes the Swedish army) smashed the Russian fleet with rowing boats, one of the great, but one of the most unknown sea victory in history, and the war become a draw. It was his son Gustav IV that did lose Finland to Russia.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kirgan1000remember Russia even defeated Sweden in Battle of Skellefteå Swedish soil Russia even pillaged Stockholm

    • @melkor3496
      @melkor3496 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@JDDC-tq7qm 6000 men against less than a thousand Swedes great victory bro.
      This was also well past our days of having a mighty military there was no way we would win the Finnish war. The results aren’t that surprising.
      The fact that we even reached great power status at all is a miracle.

    • @uputin
      @uputin 10 месяцев назад +4

      В войне с Россией ,в долгую, у Швеции не было шансов. Не сопоставимы были ресурсы. Людские, производство ядер, пушек, снаряжения. После поражения под Нарвой, Пётр 1 восстановил боеспособность своей армии буквально за несколько лет. Не просто восстановил, а сделал её сильнее.

  • @ДанилоШулікін
    @ДанилоШулікін 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great video, thank you. Since you are doing Sweedish battles, may I suggest battles of Rochensalm or Svenksund, as it is called in Sweedish history? These are naval battles.

  • @kokorogaro5133
    @kokorogaro5133 9 месяцев назад +6

    Сражение под Нарвой было не просто катастрофой. Именно поражение в этой битае заставило Царя полностью изменить армию. Карл расчитывал встретится с армией, которую разбили под Нарвой. Но к моменту Полтавы это была уже совершенно другая армия с другой дисциплиной, моралью и опытом. Под Нарвой была рождена Русская Гвардия. Под Полтавой Русская Гвардия показала все то, чему она научилась у шведов. Не забывайте, что в России Петр известен как реформатор, он выдернул страну из средневековья и резким скачком перестроил ее в европейскую державу. И одной из причин этого резкого толчка - Северная Война.

    • @alexanderwhiteley3054
      @alexanderwhiteley3054 5 месяцев назад

      Ага. И то, русская армия при огромном численном перевесе чуть не умудрилась проиграть.

    • @kokorogaro5133
      @kokorogaro5133 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexanderwhiteley3054 на поле боя есть победа или поражение, а такие аргументы как "чуть" полная лажа, тем более в условиях войны, когда самая лучшая армия на тот период времени столкнулась с армией, которая только недавно строем ходить научилась и то не вся.

    • @alexanderwhiteley3054
      @alexanderwhiteley3054 5 месяцев назад

      @@kokorogaro5133 На поле боя численно уступающая шведская армия вела наступление. В данной ситуации никаким гением быть не нужно, чтобы одолеть скандинавов. И то, царю пришлось поднапрячься. Собственно, Пётр и не был никаким гением. Завистник, самодур, лжец.

    • @kokorogaro5133
      @kokorogaro5133 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@alexanderwhiteley3054 как тебя корежит то. Не нравится, что шведы проиграли, да? Ну злись злись, шведы после этого поражения навсегда потеряли свой статус ведущей державы.

    • @alexanderwhiteley3054
      @alexanderwhiteley3054 5 месяцев назад

      @@kokorogaro5133 Да нет, не корёжит. Швеция пошла другим путём, и этот путь оказался прекрасным. Без войн и потрясений. А каролинеры, как ни крути, прекрасные солдаты.

  • @TR_Conqueror
    @TR_Conqueror 11 месяцев назад +4

    Another video from HistoryMarche! I will watch this 38 mins long gem later but now I click, I like and I comment for the algorithm.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much for the support!

  • @Raphael-pt7rx
    @Raphael-pt7rx 11 месяцев назад +2

    another high quality history video thanks :D

  • @Jakubescu
    @Jakubescu 11 месяцев назад +45

    Charles XII called Russia "Giant with feet of clay" as you can see he badly underestimated Russians, the same did Napolen and Hitler in 1812 and 1941. and the same happens now

    • @Yanramich
      @Yanramich 11 месяцев назад +8

      Whoever learns history is doomed to watch others repeat it

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +2

      When did he call Russia this? Also, it's one thing what leaders say publicly and another what they actually think.

    • @DarrelX-im2hb
      @DarrelX-im2hb 11 месяцев назад +5

      come on dude, in the time of Charles XII there was no clay nor such definition. Actually the best thing king of Sweden could do - establish a furniture manufacture.

    • @Yanramich
      @Yanramich 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@DarrelX-im2hb the definition comes from the bible, so, even if i can't deny that there isn't evidence of him saying this, it is fully possible
      Also what the hell do you mean no clay.

    • @ilyaorlovskiy
      @ilyaorlovskiy 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Yanramich this biblical expression towards Russia is attributed to Diderot (late 18 century). I realy doubt Charles ever said this.

  • @wojtek1582
    @wojtek1582 11 месяцев назад +9

    You have shown Masovia a few hundred kilometers to the East from it's real position. Masovia are lands around Warsaw.

    • @ipoop4timesaday
      @ipoop4timesaday 10 месяцев назад

      I don't know why, but the map of Poland is flawed across multiple history channels nowadays.

    • @AaSs-ln9mm
      @AaSs-ln9mm 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@ipoop4timesaday man, map of what is now called Ukraine is also flawed.

  • @KingOfStopMotion
    @KingOfStopMotion 11 месяцев назад +11

    "Time has worn the soldiers down
    Marched for many miles
    In the eastern lands so cursed
    Time to make a stand
    Tsar has scorched his nation’s land
    Nothing to be found
    Hunger grasps the soldiers’ heart
    20 000 strong
    Listen, excuse for a king
    Trust me, this fight you can’t win
    Poltava
    Rode to certain death and pain
    Poltava
    Swedish soldiers met their bane
    Poltava
    Sacrificed their lives in vain
    Poltava
    In the shade of morning mist
    Advancing on their foe
    Bullets break the silent air
    Wasted battleplan
    Swedish forces stand alone
    King has left command
    Rule is left to lesser men
    Waiting for their chance
    Listen, obey my command
    Hear me, or die by my hand
    Russian armies blocked their way
    20 000 lost that day
    They bled the ground
    Peace they found
    There’s no sign of victory
    King Carolus had to flee
    And leave the land
    Leave command
    Madness, curse your feeble horde
    Fear me or you’ll die by my sword"

  • @wintermute-
    @wintermute- 11 месяцев назад +14

    I don't think Peter gets the credit for how well he handled the war with Sweden after getting some experience as a commander. His strategy at Poltava was brilliant.

    • @ArcticKnight98
      @ArcticKnight98 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agree, it is not just due to the mistakes of the Swedes but the successes of the Russians that they have won in the end

    • @phixter
      @phixter 11 месяцев назад +5

      HAHAAH Peter did nothing but run away like a coward, then blamed his generals when they lost, when his generals won Peter took credit, Peter the great coward.

    • @Какой-тоКактус
      @Какой-тоКактус 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@phixter If runing away means wining the war, then... why not?

    • @ДмитрийАндреев-ц9х
      @ДмитрийАндреев-ц9х 10 месяцев назад

      @@phixter And used cannon fodder, a true russian

    • @personnenestici
      @personnenestici 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@phixterCope harder 😂

  • @AbhyudayaSinh
    @AbhyudayaSinh 2 месяца назад

    Very informative❤❤

  • @Maks_K074
    @Maks_K074 9 месяцев назад +3

    The main thing is that they did not forget to say about the "destroyed civilians by Menshikov" and about how Charles (the conqueror) was supported by "local residents")))). That's how propaganda works.

  • @fegelerwinchannel1471
    @fegelerwinchannel1471 3 месяца назад +4

    Here we go again

  • @ivorrus79
    @ivorrus79 10 месяцев назад +21

    Propaganda and a very tendential selection of facts. The author says how the Russians massacres the population of Baturin, but did not say a word, how sweden killed 4,000 captured Russian soldiers in the battle of Fraushtadt

    • @surgeryexpert7244
      @surgeryexpert7244 10 месяцев назад +4

      Так надо, это другое

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад +9

      First off, this is a video about the Swedish invasion of Russia and the battle of Poltava, why would they go through such detailed information about Fraustadt? Secondly, what you're saying is Russian propaganda; Sweden executed a few hundred captured Russians at Fraustadt (that's true), but the several thousands you're speaking off were cut down during the pursuit - which was perfectly normal in battles during this time.

    • @alexanderwhiteley3054
      @alexanderwhiteley3054 5 месяцев назад +2

      Во Фрауштадте шведы перебили взрослых солдат. В Батурине русские солдаты перебили мирных людей: женщин, детей и стариков. Разница есть.

    • @ivorrus79
      @ivorrus79 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexanderwhiteley3054 не спорю, есть. Но убийство пленных
      Тоже не надо замалчивать

    • @alexanderwhiteley3054
      @alexanderwhiteley3054 5 месяцев назад

      @@ivorrus79 Согласен

  • @Pietro-mr4wz
    @Pietro-mr4wz 11 месяцев назад +4

    guys i absolutely need to know if you will continue the eugene’s serie🙏🙏🙏it was a fantastic masterpiece

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yessir, releasing a new episode soon

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@HistoryMarcheCAN'T WAIT 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

    • @Pietro-mr4wz
      @Pietro-mr4wz 11 месяцев назад

      @@HistoryMarche YESSSSS🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @johnpijano4786
    @johnpijano4786 11 месяцев назад +2

    Gosh!!! When next Hannibal episode? We need to know his campaign in Naples.

  • @sergey5551
    @sergey5551 10 месяцев назад +117

    in 1709 it was not Ukraine!! It was Malo-Russia. There was NO Ukraine in 1709 at all.

    • @Crshcourse-qy9zo
      @Crshcourse-qy9zo 10 месяцев назад

      Shut up Putin troll

    • @whitegoose2017
      @whitegoose2017 10 месяцев назад +9

      And Malo-Rus is a Greek term used in the same context as Asia Minor for example. It's a geographical term. Better would be just to use historical regional names like Zaporozhia, Galicia, Volhynia and so on.

    • @НикЕфремов-ц3г
      @НикЕфремов-ц3г 10 месяцев назад +19

      @@whitegoose2017so? Where's ukraninan thing begins? There's Russia Minor, not a Urkaine Minor or whatever.)

    • @userfuckeri
      @userfuckeri 10 месяцев назад +4

      there was, plenty of document proves it

    • @НикЕфремов-ц3г
      @НикЕфремов-ц3г 10 месяцев назад

      @@userfuckeri but you won't show these docs to us, right? xD

  • @T_bone
    @T_bone 4 месяца назад

    This channel is amazing. My only wish is a way to see the troops as they would have been armed and armored to make the flags and maneuvers be a bit more understandable. Just a picture of the types and how they would have been decked out for a battle. I know other channels do different versions. Some focus on that, but not the other parts. Sorry, tired. Brain spent.

  • @mr.s2005
    @mr.s2005 10 месяцев назад +3

    Charles had one little problem, he wasn't dealing with inexperienced soldiers, but a well trained army that had seen his tactics too many times.

    • @Richard-s2n7c
      @Richard-s2n7c 10 месяцев назад

      That wasn,t """THE MAIN PROBLEM""" The Russians have always been wishy washy for hundreds of years,always """HORRENDOUS UNNECESSARY CASUALTIES WASTE OF MEN""from their days fighting the Polish Lithuanian armies to WW2, Commonwealth Army 1610s of 16,000 vs 49,000 Russians, Poles lose 1,200 Russians lose 20,000, fast forward toWW2, Panzer Regt from 5th WSS Panzer Division Wiking holding a defensive line 1944 against 3 Russian Armored Brigades, Germans lose 12 Panthers and MarkIV and Soviets lose over 100 T 34/85 and Joseph Stalins. Charles main problem he had a """SICK ,TIRED.WEAK,STARVING, ARMY """ which only half of his men were in any condition to fight, far far away from any reinforcements"""SWEDES""" were still much better trained, historically their tradition goes back to Gustavus Adolphus,the Russians had none, the westernization being forced by Peter was very harshly done and many Russians didn,t like the western style of culture,but saying the Russian soldiers specially the Infantry was in anyway better trained than the Swedes """IS LAUGHABLE""", they were better than they were in 1701,yes, because of combat experience, about 4 years before 1701 they were using muskets and tactics and uniforms that were Eastern Style old school same tactics they had used fighting the Poles 100 years before.The only thing the Russians had going for them,the main thing,they were """FRESH"" troops, had more combat experience than they did in 1701, higher morale than they had in 1701 and heavily outnumbered the sickly weak Swedish Army far far away from their logistical supply line,plus by deploring those numerous Block Houses defenses ,bleed the Swedish Infantry what was left of their fighting capability,Charles was just stupid taking the bate and responsible destroying his own army( THE GREAT GUSTAVUS ADOLPHUS NEVER DID THAT TO HIS ARMY AND MEN) . Charles should of targeted Petersburg not being a hard headed nit wit capture Moscow, Moscow would not be an important military objective until it once again popped up during the Russian Civil War 1920 which became HQ for Communism.

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад

      The Russian army was easily driven away from Holowczyn a year earlier; Charles XII even managed to cut off the connection between the Russian contingents so that they could not support each other, that's how bad they were/how good Charles XII was (you choose).

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thanks

  • @DarrelX-im2hb
    @DarrelX-im2hb 11 месяцев назад +4

    Still waiting for a new Ikea fragile glass chair "Poltava"

  • @nonenone8523
    @nonenone8523 11 месяцев назад +1

    A HIstory Marche upload makes a good day

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 11 месяцев назад +5

    Incredible!

  • @adriangeorge8974
    @adriangeorge8974 10 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful content!

  • @patrickjeffers7864
    @patrickjeffers7864 11 месяцев назад +19

    What's crazy is Peter offered Charles a really generous peace: he gave back everything except st Petersburg. Charles rejected it, and went to his doom. Ultimately, in the end Sweden was lucky peter let them keep Finland and even Sweden itself

    • @wintermute-
      @wintermute- 11 месяцев назад +3

      nod, Charles refused several chances to resolve this but he chose more violence every time. Peter offered to buy the land for St. Petersburg at the very beginning but Charles chose the option of war. I think he was looking to be remembered among the great generals in history.

    • @Akillesursinne
      @Akillesursinne 11 месяцев назад +5

      The Russians probably could never have held Sweden in any case. Finland, perhaps, but Sweden proper? Hardly. And other nations would never have allowed it.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +3

      I think you guys underestimate the strategic importance of Saint Petersburg; it would give the Russians access to the Baltic Sea, something which was completely unacceptable to the Swedes seeing as their whole empire depended on it. And they already had the Danish navy to worry about.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +5

      Was that a generous peace? I did attack you with my allies, you smash my army, and beat up my allies, so to have peace, you have to creed land to me, that will totally undermine, the last 100 year of Swedish war to monopolize the Baltic trade.
      No Peter wouldn't be able to take Sweden, the balance of power must remain, great power would have interfered, or semi large power like the Dutch. Who did have a tradition to interfere then one power in the Baltic become to successful.

  • @jensfiehler4716
    @jensfiehler4716 10 месяцев назад

    Great one, as usual.

  • @karimullan3340
    @karimullan3340 11 месяцев назад +10

    They won because of the immense personal interest of Peter not his country’s interest.
    He is so much interested for that port, he even modernized his army and supplied all the funds to his allies.
    And yet he shared the spoils with his allies.
    He is actual winner and deserve all the spoil but he understood that he can’t win alone with Charles XII and share the spoils with allies . If CharlesXII can negotiate and give him port then Sweden would be a regional power till now.
    Because of Charles XII underestimated the Peter abilities that cost him dearly.
    After charles XII no one has that will to fight a losing war( from Sweden).
    It is Peter’s personal ego that is the starting point for Russia to become a Powerhouse.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +6

      That's why he's called Peter The Great

    • @kurumuxin5953
      @kurumuxin5953 10 месяцев назад +10

      Не было желания больше воевать? Чел😅. Шведы ещё не раз пытались взять реванш, просто с тех пор они перестали быть той огромной силой и русские громили их в салат

    • @Inscriptible
      @Inscriptible 10 месяцев назад

      everyone who has ever invaded Russia has underestimated it.

    • @Злобныйприцеп
      @Злобныйприцеп 10 месяцев назад +3

      The Russians are tired of listening to false tales about the great Vikings and the Russians decided to show who the father really is...

    • @catocall7323
      @catocall7323 9 месяцев назад

      It seems that Charles was a victim of his own success. Having defeated a more numerous Russian force at Narva he assumed that his soldiers were so great, that they could keep routing the Russians in every engagement. His soldiers were indeed great, but not great enough.

  • @Ghostrex101
    @Ghostrex101 10 месяцев назад +1

    Rest in Peace Caroleans. Your efforts and bravery shall never be forgotten ⚔🙏✝

  • @turkcukayi
    @turkcukayi 10 месяцев назад +6

    Charles' time in Ottoman territory is not mentioned. Charles did his best to force the Ottomans to attack Russia, resulting in the Battle of the Prut.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад +1

      What happened at the Siege of Stralsund Charles of Sweden got besieged 😂😂

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад

      @@JDDC-tq7qm So? 11,000 Swedes against 50,000 allies. What was it to do other than play for time, hoping the allies would retreat with the approach of winter.

    • @nighttempest7163
      @nighttempest7163 4 месяца назад

      Charles was also famously a horrible houseguest from hell to the Ottoman empire during his retreat after Battle of Poltava. He stayed there for 5 years and the sultan was patient enough to not kill him. 😂

  • @Youbeentagged
    @Youbeentagged 6 месяцев назад

    Reminds me of Generals Lee and Grant.
    Lee was a great battlefield commander, and could adapt really well on the field.
    Grant, wouldn't be able to adapt as easily on the battlefield, but was a genius at planning the moves long-term.
    Tactical mastermind vs Strategic genius.

  • @Jungles_of_Lustria
    @Jungles_of_Lustria 11 месяцев назад +10

    My ancestor, Kristoph Cherniak, was there, fighting along side the Swedes, at the right hand of Ivan Mazepa. Thank you for animating and narrating this battle! A piece of my family's history! Love this and love "Poltava" by Sabaton too! (I had written Par in the past before they made the song and told him of the battle and my family being there, who knows, maybe it was an influence! 😅)

  • @maximhoroshilov
    @maximhoroshilov 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am Russian, but I respect Karl and the Swedes in this battle. What courage in the face of such superiority! Not only did they rush into battle with a superior enemy, but there was a moment when they almost broke through the Russian formation! Their courage and steadfastness command respect. If they had lost with more troops than the Russians, then we could call it a great victory for Russia, but I do not understand why such a glorious country as Sweden lost the championship to Russia after ONE decisive battle. Indeed, they made a mistake when they went to Moscow, BUT they cannot be called cowards or weaklings! The Swedes command my respect!

    • @Arbelot
      @Arbelot 3 месяца назад +1

      "The Swedes are our teachers"
      -Peter the Great

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 11 месяцев назад +5

    Charles’s whole invasion was a catastrophically bad idea.
    His aggressiveness finally came back to haunt him.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +1

      You do know that Sweden did take Moscow 1610, and did won that war.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 11 месяцев назад +2

      Quite a shame Sweden didn't have Michael Singer back then, with all his expert inputs to guide them to victory.

    • @Какой-тоКактус
      @Какой-тоКактус 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@kirgan1000it was Poland who take Moscow

    • @michaelsinger4638
      @michaelsinger4638 11 месяцев назад +1

      People back then were warning Charles. He was just too stubborn to listen.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Какой-тоКактус It was the De la Gardieska fälttåget, then Sweden did support one of the Russian throne pretender, there was loots of allied Russian troops to help out. Think Poland did the same in support with there throne pretender.

  • @hakanliljeberg790
    @hakanliljeberg790 8 месяцев назад +1

    It still so painful for swedes to look at because of the mistakes at the battle of Poltava.. But after 1720 when the loss was confirmed with a peace-treaty, the liberty age afterward was called Frihetstiden. A restaurang opened that is still open today in the Old City, Gyldene Freden or The Golden Peace...

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 месяцев назад +6

    The decisve battle of the GNW! Thanks man! You're the Best! Please keep up the amazing work! Consider more reconquista videos please 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

  • @Gutspowder
    @Gutspowder 2 месяца назад

    I'm thankful that I found this video I've been seen this video

  • @dynamiK_1K
    @dynamiK_1K 11 месяцев назад +6

    When is the next early rome episode many hannibal or Etruscan wars

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +2

      Working on it, should be soon.

  • @kolbaska19
    @kolbaska19 10 месяцев назад

    surprisingly very honest story, thank you

  • @stoneruler
    @stoneruler 11 месяцев назад +9

    18:30 what kind of stupid plan is that? Just expect the enemy to run away?? Charles really was extremely naive in this campaign he single handedly destroyed his own army and empire. Feel terrible for the soldiers who gave their lives for this reckless, pointless assault.

    • @becauseno9375
      @becauseno9375 10 месяцев назад +3

      Actually the Gå På doctrine had worked many times before, defeating armies even twice their size by accurate volleys and shock though you have a point as it only worked when the men were high in morale and discipline which was actually not the case for Poltava specifically

    • @антонантон-ы7ш
      @антонантон-ы7ш 10 месяцев назад +1

      He did not understand that the Russian army had changed

    • @bydloshkolnik
      @bydloshkolnik 10 месяцев назад

      Those are speculations as the most of the video.
      The Swedes had no chance, since they were waiting for 12000-25000 reinforcements who were 2 months late by that time, because Russians have intercepted and destroyed them. The Battle of Poltava had no meaning except murder of the last of the Carolean elite infantry left alive. I bet Peter the Great would let them go if Charles would ask nicely and concede the territory.

    • @coryfice1881
      @coryfice1881 10 месяцев назад

      @@becauseno9375That's cool and all but every Swedish death could not be replaced compared to Russia.

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@антонантон-ы7ш Not much had changed in the Russian army since Narva; Peter I had recruited a lot more dragoons and that's about it. Other than that, the Russians had gained experience, but so had the Swedes..

  • @Owenvanhuis
    @Owenvanhuis 10 месяцев назад

    Man, I'm binging these episodes. At least it is'nt endless scrolling. It's educational!

  • @GustavusAdolphus113
    @GustavusAdolphus113 4 месяца назад +5

    I really shouldn't have done that, huh..

  • @Tbonedasavage
    @Tbonedasavage 11 месяцев назад +2

    🐐 of RUclips 🔥🔥💯💯

  • @johnchen3599
    @johnchen3599 11 месяцев назад +3

    The turning point of The Great Northern War
    1709

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 11 месяцев назад +1

    I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @Zorro1945Mir
    @Zorro1945Mir 10 месяцев назад +9

    Интересно, что в пункте "по другим данным" учитываются только шведские данные. А то, что там шведов во время битвы(!) больше полегло, согласно нашим данным, они даже не рассматривают. И акцент на том, как шведам было тяжело во время пути и мороза... а наши войска как будто прохлаждались в это время. В общем, ладно... "Полтава - слава!", как говорил Суворов.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Suvorov admired Charles XII, didn't he?

    • @Zorro1945Mir
      @Zorro1945Mir 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Leaffordes Суворов, как умный человек, понимал, что нужно учиться даже у врага. Было бы чему учиться.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 10 месяцев назад

      @@Zorro1945Mir Charles XII was no enemy of Suvorov. Also, he admired the guy; this was no "Peter the Great learning from the enemies" moment.

    • @Zorro1945Mir
      @Zorro1945Mir 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Leaffordes ты не поверишь, но для патриота своего Отечества, каковым был Суворов, враги его Отечества это и его враги. Суворов не восхищался врагом, а брал на вооружение те приёмы врага, которые, очевидно, имели большой успех. Под Полтавой он вашим Карлом не восхищался - на ошибках врага тоже нужно учиться.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 10 месяцев назад

      @@Zorro1945Mir You're just outright lying. Try reading Johann Friedrich Anthing's contemporary biography about him, which says (page xxvi): "Ceasar and Charles XII. were the heroes whom he most admired, and whose activity and courage became the favourite objects of his imitation".

  • @jnegrete86
    @jnegrete86 9 месяцев назад +1

    Charles: There is nothing more we can do.

  • @Simple_historyy
    @Simple_historyy 11 месяцев назад +4

    If you cover Gustav the 3 of swedens war with Sweden I will become a Patreon member of you ❤🎉

    • @torodensson1331
      @torodensson1331 10 месяцев назад

      Surely Gustav III did not fight a war with his own country

  • @Paly_22
    @Paly_22 10 месяцев назад +1

    Подскажите что за программа в которой создаются данные симуляции битв?
    Can you tell me what kind of program is used to create battle simulation data?

  • @1986tessie
    @1986tessie 11 месяцев назад +7

    I'll be disappointed if Sabaton aren't your main source of information on this documentary.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  11 месяцев назад +4

      I'll add Sabaton to the Sources in the description ;)

  • @Palimbacchius
    @Palimbacchius 11 месяцев назад +2

    Curious to know when Karl XII of Sweden decided to call himself 'Sharlz'. Was he perhaps a contestant on Love Island?

    • @kristijangrgic9841
      @kristijangrgic9841 7 месяцев назад

      Charles is English variant of Karl. Just like Deutschland is Germany. Each language has its own variant for personal names, names of cities, regions, ethnic groups etc. Also was he not Carolus Rex ?

    • @Palimbacchius
      @Palimbacchius 7 месяцев назад

      @@kristijangrgic9841 'Charles' is indeed the English variant of 'Karl'; it begins with the same /ch/ affricate as 'chart' or 'charm'. 'Sharlz', however, is neither Swedish, English or even French (where the final /s/ is silent). It is no-body's version of 'Charles'. Did you not understand my post?

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki 11 месяцев назад +14

    Charles went from being arguably the best Swedish leader ( along with Gustavus Alphonsus) to basically ending forever any Swedish empire aspirations ( Sweden would never again play a major role in the area) and getting shot by his own men. A very prominent example of how fortune can change so rapidly.

    • @profylax
      @profylax 10 месяцев назад +2

      *possibly being shot by his own men. It’s a theory.

    • @LionMinifigures-gb2ij
      @LionMinifigures-gb2ij 10 месяцев назад +1

      Prevailing theory nowadays is that it was a shot from the Norwegian fortress that killed him.

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 10 месяцев назад

      @@LionMinifigures-gb2ij i wasn't aware of that. Good to know.

  • @tictcha612
    @tictcha612 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video !

  • @georgidimitrov6054
    @georgidimitrov6054 10 месяцев назад +17

    "If you come to us by sword, by sword you will perish". Russian saying. How true, how true!

    • @phixter
      @phixter 9 месяцев назад

      Except for that time Sweden looted Moscow and the Russians ran away?

    • @georgidimitrov6054
      @georgidimitrov6054 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@phixter That time? Lololol. Which time? Year, date, anything? But this is expected, with western pseudo-education system (it's not a bug, it is a feature). 😂

    • @jaredjosephsongheng372
      @jaredjosephsongheng372 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@georgidimitrov6054
      Uh yeah what about that time when you ran away from Napoleon and let his men succumb to Winter instead of fighting him by sword?
      Idk about you but Natural Occurrences aren't fighting by Sword here

    • @georgidimitrov6054
      @georgidimitrov6054 9 месяцев назад

      @jaredjosephsongheng372 Which time? Can you point the date? I am sure you can do so only after you google it. Lololol! Westerner half-knowledge at its best. You and your kind know nothing about Russia and will never understand it. That's why you will always loose from Russia.
      BTW, I am not Russian, just because my surname ends with 'ov'. Lololol. Exactly my point - you have no clue, boy (or any gender you are identifying as currently). 😂

    • @georgidimitrov6054
      @georgidimitrov6054 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@jaredjosephsongheng372 Lol. A very limited linear thinking you have. First the Russians did not run, it was a tactical retreat (at the end they won the war and ended up in Paris, you forgot, or never learned it?) Second Napoleon's 'brave' men in fact were finished off by "The Sword" e.g. by the Russian army and Russian partizans, who were chasing them (and literally hunted them down like deer throughout Russia). BTW, I recommend to you the Russian song "Русская дорога". 👌

  • @oteleaionutbogdan5381
    @oteleaionutbogdan5381 9 месяцев назад

    Seeing the odds against the Charles, it’s no wonder they lost. Even with an elite army they were heavily outnumbered. It wasn’t even a close battle. It’s more shocking that Charles tried to fight Peter in such conditions.

  • @ВикторКозырь-о6ш
    @ВикторКозырь-о6ш 10 месяцев назад +16

    Немного добавим численность русским, немного отнимем от шведов. Что-то приукрасим, о чём-то забудем. Так из нескольких вроде бы незаметных слов рождается огромная лживая пропаганда. И вот это уже не великая и славная победа русских, а подвиг 300 шведских спартанцев.

    • @Dufi8787
      @Dufi8787 10 месяцев назад +8

      Ага, выглядит вообще смехотворно, типо противник превосходит числом в 5 раз, у него есть резервы, вторая армия, до Москвы ещё чёрт знает сколько и Москву типо захватят 10к шведов?
      Стоит посмеяться, в этой искаженноц истории чарльз выглядит сумашедшим ведущий шведов на убой, без шанца на успех.

    • @theone2513
      @theone2513 10 месяцев назад

      это их история, почему бы и нет. все страны хотят гордиться героями своих войн, даже если эти войны были проиграны

    • @Dufi8787
      @Dufi8787 10 месяцев назад

      @@theone2513 или героями которых и не было вовсе. Кстате, а для чего впринципе изучают истрию? Что бы что то подчерпнуть из неё и не повторять прошлых ошибок, помнить об фашизме и геноциде, а ты что то тут рякаешь, что искажать её и нагло врать это нормально, так это и не история вовсе а пропаганда, не путай термины.

    • @Leaffordes
      @Leaffordes 10 месяцев назад

      Can't you just bring up the factual inaccuracies instead of ranting about there being factual inaccuracies and a clear Swedish bias? I'd like to know.

  • @coyote4237
    @coyote4237 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you. Brilliantly done.

  • @neilreynolds3858
    @neilreynolds3858 11 месяцев назад +6

    I read about Charles invasion of Russia about 35 years ago, It seemed to me that he was wandering around Russia followed by his army without any real plan. Maybe like subsequent would-be conquerors he thought the Empire would collapse as soon as he knocked on the door. We're still making that same bad assumption about the Russians.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@nordicpatriotand ever time Russia has collapsed it got back stronger since the fall if the USSR Russia today is arguably in stronger a stronger position it has powerful allies and the leader of Russia Putin has full backing of the country both times when Russia collapsed it's because of poor leadership take a look at Tsar Nicholas II and Mikhail Gorbachev 2 weak leaders who made bad decisions so I'll say Russia chances of collapse will be determined by poor leaders ethnic tensions will not cause the break up of Russia one has to take a look at the Chechen wars to see how Russia deals with such rebellions

    • @антонантон-ы7ш
      @антонантон-ы7ш 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@nordicpatriot Don't dream

    • @MrBakbu
      @MrBakbu 10 месяцев назад

      Charles XII didn't leave any memoirs behind him; like other figures in the same century did, like Frederick the Great and Napoleon. He rarely talked about his campaigns and battles in letters. Don't you think it would seem less like he was just wandering around, if he actually wrote memoirs, so that we knew his plans - like the great commanders we all admire?

    • @danko397
      @danko397 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@nordicpatriot Россию может поколебать только сама Россия. Все о чем вы говорите, это следствие внутренних проблем. Так что это довольно странный комментарий под видео о вторжении в Россию. Всего доброго патриот эфимерного севера)

    • @danko397
      @danko397 10 месяцев назад

      @@nordicpatriot согласен