Aviation has a similar issue. Newer airplanes are almost pilotless. Would you fly in a pilotless aircraft? What if something goes wrong? I like the option of grabbing the controls.
Another point regarding cars is this idea that the car's design is partly an expression of oneself and that the experience of driving is also part of this expressiveness will change dramatically. In the future, the idea that a car is an outward expression of the person inside it will be like saying that my kitchen knife collection expresses my personality.
9:35 I'm not sure that this would cause congestion. Your car isn't making any trips that it wouldn't make now (what, you're not going to pick up groceries or a sick kid?), but it is making some of them at times when you (today) wouldn't. Instead of going to the grocery store after work (and so is everybody else), your car (and all the other ones) are doing that spaced out through working hours.
I'm happy she's excited about so many things, and I share in her excitement. However, the real life dictates that many people are not the same. She talks about society as a similar and unilateral group, when in fact, we are nothing like it. There's workaholics and bums, rich and poor, those who can, and those who won't. So, as an idea, it's nice to think of life where no one owns the cars, but in fact someone would own the cars, the Service Provider. Imagine Comcast, but for vehicles. And if that Service Provider is the government, then God help us all.
You know how long the average person has to spend on the road in the USA to be a fatality in a car accident? About 5,000 years. I have yet to see a computer that is more reliable than a human. www.certifiedparalegals.org/infographic-car-accident-statistics/ www.fhwa.dot.gov/pressroom/fhwa1607.cfm
"Who wouldn't want that ?" Me, I'm 22 years old and I want pleasure of driving. If automakers would get steering wheel out of the car I would buy only old cars that are enojoyable for drive. I know there is lot of people will comment like "your way of thinking is outdated" "autonomous car can prevent car crashes" "driving should be hobby on closed tracks". For me, owning a car makes sense only when you can drive it , for me and BILLIONS car enthusiasts all over the world. Auto mode is brilliant idea but human should have possibility to take control of the car always. If there is no chance to drive in future, I would just keep nissan silvia and civic as long as wheels fell off.
I don't know if I could share a vehicle with people. A lot of people out there are really nasty. They fart on and stick gum under seats! They pick their noses, then wipe it anywhere except on a tissue where it belongs! I wouldn't be a part of that ride sharing crap! I love my privacy way tooooooo much! And I don't want or have a need for strangers germs!
jan simonides Vehicles would have to be cleaned between trips, before I would even consider ride sharing. I mean. Think about it. There's super bacteria out there that's resistant to antibiotics of today! It's easy to catch the Nora virus from people who have contracted it! The Nora virus can quickly turn into MRSA if not treated immediately! And MRSA is nothing to fool around with!
I think the real next step is no cars or trucks. Something needs to come along to replace them. Teleportation? Something not even imagined yet? Some new discovery? This car culture cannot keep getting bigger and bigger no matter what kind of cars they are.
I'm really interested by this concept and I was thinking that it could be really helpful for family who don't have time to bring their kids at school or activities ! What do you think ? The car could be shared with other kids and their parents will follow them through an app
people keep mixing driverless with public. these are different things. I want an autonomous vehicle, but I don't want to share a ride. ownership will continue in a driverless road.
horse isn't the best argument there, because with a steering wheel you still have full control of the vehicle. when you don't have a wheel or pedals you are not in control in any way of the vehicle. a horse is equivalent to the engine and steering, it is not the same, you cannot argue would you buy a car without a horse because that doesn't affect the vehicle in any way, whereas taking away the steering wheel ad pedals does.
If you look at a typical family of four where the two kids borh have cars, and both parents have cars, this alone would add enormously to congestion. If the family had one riverless car, it would schuttle everyone to their destinations and park or recharge, waiting to do the picking up of everyone later. And if this scenario is too much for one car, ordering a driverless car to pick up one family member later could be an option.
the best part of it all is that they are going to be granting freedom to the blind, older, those with injuries and parents would not be tight to kids delivering them to school, the behavior of the streets could be managed as if they would be like veins in a body and the traffic would be really like blood, if every car would be communicated with the city , every one or every car would be feeding the origin and destination to the city, the intelligent city would be able to close and open streets, change . streets directions. One of the most beneficial aspects I think . would . be . that parking spaces would not be . needed because the most efficient car is going to be moving all day transporting someone
She’s not talking about the amount of hackers that could easily hack into the cars. That could increase the amount of accidents, there are sick people out there and they would love to hack into the cars and hurt people. Plus she said driverless cars would lower traffic; no because of all the schedules people would make for their cars like, picking up groceries, picking up their kids, and all that. That would increase traffic because of all the people making these schedules.
So if there aren't driverless cars, people *won't* pick up their kids, *won't* pick up groceries? Sure they will, and sure they do. They just all do it at the same time: after work. With driverless cars, the grocery trips will be spaced out during work hours. Less congestion, not more. Except that of course you won't send your own car to pick up groceries: you'll have them delivered. You might pick up your kid in your own car, though. But hey, you do that now. Unless your kid rides the bus, of course.
Two things to consider about driverless cars: Not everyone lives in the city. What do we do with a driverless cars that has 250,000 miles? Will we need mandatory inspections much more in depth than that we have now?
there is no need for phones or sidewalks. I agree that there should be security standards, but to write it off entirely while it is still being developed is not a good way to look at any problem.
I'm sorry if you misunderstood the part about phones, i was referring to the phones on the side you mentioned - of course there would have to be ways of contacting people outside the tunnel. I think you went out on a limb on the last part, I'm only talking about fixing congestion - not Elon Musk's other ideas.
What happens when the driverless car gets hacked by an AI and the car becomes self aware and misbehaves??? Think: Revenge of the automatons! Driving a car is one of the greatest joys in the world.
I think car sharing has opened up not because it's "desirable" but because it's a cheaper way of getting around. It's a money thing, not a convenience thing... People don't trust people enough to share vehicles on a permanent regular basis, comfortably.
i live in canada it snows driverless cars need to see the lane markings to stay in the lane. your from sacramento ever heard of black ice? they won't work where it snows
Then its not a treat, its sth developed to widen the gap between class. You see people are worried about public problems like congession and greenhouse gas emission, but they also want theyeasy way around. So the only way seem to be eliminate people from using it by making it "expensive".
It's going to be both. Private ownership and ride-share depending how much money the consumer wants to save. Private cars will slowly become more autonomous while lyft/uber/google will come out all at the same time, a bit later, because they need to be completely driver-less. The demographic will shift depending on the quality, comfort, and affordability. Government/city planning will come in and work with private industry software to allocate areas designated for idle cars waiting to pick up their passengers. Although there will be huge savings and lives saved there will also be a dramatic loss in jobs. Taxis, uberdrivers, truckdrivers, highway patrol, collision repair, insurance, even medical personnel will be cut. New jobs in software, maintenance, and management will replace them. Oh hate to ramble but you can solve inconsiderate messy ride-share customers with rating systems just like amazon. If the autonomous uber comes to pick you up and the last driver left a mess in the car simply use your phone to make a complaint and send for a new ride. If its a private industry they can decide to fine the previous driver if every car that consumer uses is sent back to be detailed by the next user..... damn that was much longer than I planned on rambling...thoughts?
Speaking from 2024, the predicted timelines are already completely off, as driverless cars are still not close to being a reality. While she mentioned car sharing companies like Zipcar (that has since gone bankrupt), I don't think she discussed the impact of Uber, or at least not nothing more than vague cursory remarks. Nora of course could she have accounted for the impact of the pandemic predicting the future is hard. Also, I find it a bit curious that especially somebody from the state of California has faith in the ability of a perfectly efficient government to build this driverless paradise.
Heath Sims Let me ask you this: if we need to automate everything and remove the human factor out of everything all in the name of "safety" and "convenience", then what's the point of our existence? Shouldn't be too long until going outside will be deemed "unsafe".
That's because electricity _was_ (and still _is_ ) VERY dangerous. However, at least it can be managed via switches, transformers, and safety systems such as fuses and breakers. On the other hand, self-driving cars eventually will not allow for manual control so if something should go wrong, it's not like you can just take the wheel and swerve out of harm's way or slam on the brakes. What's even worse is that the passenger(s) would most likely be too oblivious to notice any impending danger anyway.
I don't know but to me she comes across as someone that doesn't want to work too hard. Hey I have no problem with that however sustainability Will be the key to win this all comes out to the public
That comes from letting a women talk about cars. The argument at ~ 9:00 makes no sense. The same number of trips are taking place today the difference being that the driverless car could go shopping at a random hour while humans tend to go shopping either on weekends or in the evening. Also why would driverless cars require us to car pool? In the contrary ... with cars not parking at the side of the roads lanes would be wider allowing for more cars to travel. Finally driverless cars require much less distance between consecutive cars allowing more cars to travel simultaneously.
a.k.a. why you shouldn' t leave driverless cars up to women. Driverless taxis will work if it's more convenient then taking the bus. The only way in which it can work if it's a normal taxi, but because they don't have to pay drivers, you can take a subscription that will allow you to take a taxi from anywhere to anywhere else, at the price of a bus subscription today. And by calling it to anywhere by using an app. This would also mean you never have to travel back to your car or remember where you parked, or pay for parking. Also you don't send your car to take groceries from the store. How would a car be able to go inside a store? You get your groceries delivered at your house. The big benefits of this would be you wouldn't need to own a car ever. Nobody likes the sharing part.
Thank you for your speech Lauren, I am sure you must have spent a lot of time and effort on it. I particularly liked the first half of your speech especially the puzzle graphic noting the issues we face. (Data protection, Cyber Security, Liability, Government, Roadway, Human adoption). One criticism I would like to make is on your discussion of congestion. Most congestion is caused by humans starting and stopping our cars. If anything driverless cars will cause less congestion (traffic lights won't be needed as well) and even if congestion was a problem it would be a minor one compared to other issues we face. So it is not worth the amount of time you spent on that topic. A final note I hope you don't take the negative comments personally, it is simply the nature of the internet for people to speak their mind without regard to other people's feelings.
What Ms. Isaac conveniently leaves out is that You won't be driving but some other entity will....Google, Apple....the Gov't. Can we ever trust a corporation or a government to have full control over our transportation....which equals our Freedom, I would say no. I will never use an automated car, my freedom is far too precious.
+Tazziee So, you disagree with my assertion because "it's going to happen" essentially ?? I wasn't arguing about whether driverless cars WILL happen, i'm arguing that the people who will control them will NOT be the people in the cars and whether we are prepared to give our potential freedoms away.....are you prepared to do that ?
+Tazziee When did I argue about the science and why is that relevant ? should we adopt every new scientific marvel just because ? and, why do you feel the need to refer to me as "ignorant" ??
+Tazziee OK, I see that you are smart and I am dumb, I will start at Kindergarten and attempt to reeducate myself...i'll start with Al Gore's book, maybe it can help me understand your perspective. While i'm in the educational gulag please read this article. Namaste' www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/why-hard-sell-self-driving-car
+Michael Hoskinson does your argument apply to using cell phones and the Internet as well? Do you expect some local government or small-scale enterprise to deliver these kinds of innovations at both affordable cost to consumers and global reach? I wouldn't hold my breath.
bollicks. so one owner uses their car to pick the kids up. do the shopping. take you to and from work. so how does non ownership change anything. you're still using it to go to work, do the shopping, pick the kids up. still everyone has their car on the road. whether you own it or not, it's still clogging the road. you talk about ride sharing. the person next to you farts, snores, stinks. nope. prefer my own space. and who cleans the car, inside and out. I'm a taxi driver, who gets the drink home, finds the right person. use the cell phone? may you dropped it, doesn't work, forgot to charge it. and what if someone throws up in the non owned car?, needs medical help. you talk about ride sharing, getting on a bike. oh yeah. my arse on a bike? ain't gonna happen. cold. pissing down. also this assumes that everyone has no medical or heart or arthritis issues. and then theirs my wet dogs when i take them to the beach and the dog has just rolled a pile of horse shit. we have an old car we refer to as the dog box. you wanna be in the pod car after my dogs? so I don't own a car. I want to travel, touring holiday, road trip....... I'll stick with my car.
The difference is not compared to today's scenario but tomorrow's scenario. Did you hear her say her car goes shopping without her? Does your car do that today? No. So that means congestion will be horrible because everyone will send their cars to do things without them in it.
She is incorrect on this point throughout the video. Driver less cars means less cars on the road, not more. Imagine you own a self-driving car, why have it sit in a parking lot all day instead of generating you revenue providing rides for other people at a rate you set? Because there are cars providing people with transportation instead of sitting ideal, there is actually a downward pressure on the amount of cars on the roads. There aren't more cars, they are just used much more productively. I think she is just scared that her work in the public sector will soon be made irrelevant by the introduction of driver-less cars.
GalatisMan disagree. because you won't have to take you're car to do whatever you will be happy to let the car do it. and if that allows you to work for more money you will.
I'm all for driverless cars and all the safety they give us but would still like to drive every once and a while. Yes, for commuting, I would use one but for fun I'd like to drive myself.
I lost vision in 2003, I have been involved with computers since the mid 80s, most people back then had No need for a computer I had an older friend that I wanted to build a computer for and she told me she did not want one of those dam things in her house 10 years later around 95 she ask me to build her a computer. people don't like change until it happens then they find they need it
If everyone owns a car, and the cars drive themselves and communicate with each other, couldn't the cars be more like pods that link up on a highway and act as a large train? Then why would you also need trains? Her assumption that cars are going to be the same form factor as they are today is laughably incorrect.
Business owners share cars with their employees every day and it's been proven they don't take care of them. Just like the old saying something that is given to you ,,Rather than you paying for it The person that gets something for free never takes care of it as much as the person that worked hard and paid for it
Fast electric mini vans should be the driverless craze, because you have more room and freedom. You can have theater chairs with a cinemascope screen, or you can have that work space that you need. Maybe even a couch.
I'm truly amazed, yet disappointed. The speed with which this idea has grown. The funding that has materialized. The effort being thrown into this subect, and media attention. Its remeniscent of our efforts to land on the moon ..on steroids, as they say. But I can't help but consider, what if this effort was instead being put into more efficient cars or perhaps even fossil fueless, a thoroughly "greener" infrastructure even. Or we were improving our deplorable mass transit system in America. I think we know why the effort isn't towards fueless or mass transit. I grew up with the American car being the idea of freedom apparent in the TV ads of the day. Highway 66. Cruising the backroads, heading to unknown lakes to skinnydip. I look into the future though and all I see is the loss of that freedom. I imagine entering one of these things and having to swipe my card with all my personal information attached. It will monitor exactly when and where I travel and for how long deepening the abilities of gps auto/cell monitoring. I imagine it will also further force us into the "credit card" style system to be able to travel in this credit driven society. An attempt to further insure the banks hold all assets as we covet a piece of plastic. Perhaps this ultimately is the reasoning behind the massive push towards automated cars. Consider the down sides. Autos autopiloted out of our control used to assassinate or drive into crowds. Its like thinking auto-piloting is cool, as a pilot on a jet, relaxing while the plane does much of inflight work - till it suddenly veers left and disappears over the Indian Ocean.
In the real world working people have to be at work about 7am - 9am and then all of them go home each day at about the same time (8 hours later). You need a lot of CARS for only 6 hours a day the rest of the day the majority of these cars will SIT EMPTY. So where the hell are these tens of thousand of CARS going to be PARKED? These experts have not really thought this thing all way through ... (duh)!!!
Probably the same place that unused cars are parked today while people work, a garage or parking area. She addresses this in her presentation. Autonomous cars are not additive to today's car population, they replace them.
Tidal Yact Most people aren't advocating for the illegalisation of human driven cars and hacked vehicles will be far less common than drunk drivers, or people falling asleep at the wheel. How do you not see that? You're grasping at straws my friend.
Michiel van der Blonk the problem with emphasis on delivery is that for example, demagogues in political competitions can appeal due to delivery however lack substantive content, that had they delivered without the so called flamboyance would not have manipulated their audience. So I feel it is folly to focus on delivery and not exclusively content.
I agree with you to a point. The presenter must know the subject and be able to deliver it effectively. I found her delivery most distracting with almost every sentence having a rising inflection at the end (we used to call it valley girl speak, I think) and her constant rocking back and forth. One half step forward and one half step back thoughout the presentation. Both were detracting from the content. She seemed very nervous and unsure how to speak in public. Relax.The valley girl speak has crept into, mostly North American speech over the past twenty years or so. The Aussies do it a lot too. Most annoying.
reason why this won't work because car ownership means privacy. You can store stuff in the car like your soccer gear or crap like that so you don't forget something. You have to worry about the non hygienic person sitting in the car before you. Car on demand. Taxis today take like 20 min to get to you. Do you think they can bring that down in two minutes? You order a car but your wife is not ready yet. (you know women and the time they take to get ready), Do you pay extra for the car waiting an hour or sending it away because you don't need it yet? The number of times you will say dammit I left my phone or wallet or whatever in the car. It's gone. Yup no wonder humans like car ownership. Maybe this is the solution when they make people too poor to afford cars.
Trains have no real need for an engineer, a computer can easily replace them. Yet that job still exists. Airplanes in the last 20 years have become completely autonomous and have no real need for an on board flight crew. But we still have pilots. The odds of professional truck drivers disappearing before locomotive engineers and airline pilots are slim to none.
Meanwhile she sitting on the beach on her 25th vodka and tonic, are we as a society so lazy to drive??? Planes have been on auto pilot for almost 8 years but there is always a pilot for safety , so what's the point of having a driverless car if you're gonna need acopilot for safety? I love the idea I think it's great I just don't see it being sustainable ,there's a lot of trucking companies right now that have a hard time paying for a new tires and fuel and basic maintenance let alone 100,000 Dollar add on
Выступление про автомобили без водителей, а вывод автора о необходимости делиться своими вещами.Я регулярно пользуюсь каршерингом и карпулингом в Москве, но никогда не посадил бы в своё авто незнакомых людей, находясь в регионах. Для начала необходимо выравнять общество, сократить разрывы в доходах рпзных слоев общества, наладить систему страхования и предупреждения преступлений, иначе твой автомобиль (и ты как водитель) становитесь слишком лёгкой добычей для злоумышленников. Кроме того,у меня нет желания брать ответственность за жизнь чужих людей в моем авто.
Unsupervised? Children around the world go to school on their own and in most countries they use regular public transportation. On the subway, ot the train or any regular non-school-bus you don't even see the driver the whole ride.
This will change a lot of business and it's almost 100% the near future my advice to the million of people's who are reliant on making bread and butter by driving what ever it is has to make a plan B before its to late that goes to all taxi, Uber, lift, bus, truck, mail, ambulance, train, truck and delivery drivers you have 5 years max
What a load of fantasy hype. In the 60s these type of people predicted that we would be floating around in hovercraft vehicles. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN !!!
Her analyses of the non-ideal version of self-driving cars makes no sense. Why would I send my car to a parking lot if it could be providing transportation for others at a rate I set through ride sharing? If more cars are used more productively to transport people, this would actually mean less congestion. Her second analyses is also flawed. She can't come to terms with the fact that trains, buses, bikes, Especially TRAINS, are all made irrelevant with self-driving cars. Give me a break with trains. There is likely almost no place for them in the future. They are inherently inefficient when compared to cars today, imagine how irrelevant they will be compared to autonomous cars.
I stopped at 3 minutes. So this is the person they chose to do a ted talk about these no good contraptions? I always associate TED talk with passion and foremost expertise but this woman is neither.
Less accidents with driver-less cars: sorry madam prove that first! Send my son of 7 to school with a driverless car? does it care what happens to him if he steps out of the car on the road? A taxi driver does! etc., etc. All in all, a very weak argument. Nobody needs driverless cars!
It's my humble opinion that Self-Driving Cars Will NOT Transform Our Lives as much as the MECHANICAL EQUIVALENT OF THE INTERNET IN TRANSPORTATION Why people are stuck to the car. Can't they learn from the magical INTERNET. Thinking of driverless cars and the likes is like thinking of the telegraph/telegram (or the typewriter) and how to improve it. THEY ARE GONE. We must not need cars for 'earthly' transportation. What we need is the DOOR to DOOR, MECHANICAL EQUIVALENT OF THE INTERNET IN TRANSPORTATION, to change the world and our lives as much as the magical INTERNET did. It is feasible. An architecturally friendly to the environment system of posts and cables (or even rails) going through EVERY STREET will be required, for pollution free electromechanically driven carts to slide. A conceptually new, really big forward step in the movement of people and goods, of the caliper of the INTERNET.
Yet another person who lives someplace and wants the rest of the US to live as she does. "She possesses expert knowledge on issues surrounding autonomous vehicles and is a driving force in helping city, state, and regional governments proactively respond to this potentially world-changing technological development." Really? I am convinced that should cars be invented today, people like her would deem them too dangerous a technology to be used by humans. Thankfully, cars were invented a century ago and people like her have to live with the consequences, that is until someone like her gets them outlawed (legally or financially) by the government.
screw cars I want a driverless flying horse, Pegasus. I want Pegasus to not only take me from place to place, but dress me and make me breakfast or go out and chop some wood on winter days, than curl up with me by the fire as we drink hot coco. I'll make the hot coco ;)
There seems to be a lot of luddites commenting on this issue. I strongly suspect they would have had objections going from horses to horseless carriages at the turn of the 1800s to the 1900s and their whines would be essentially the same.
I'd love to see the shocked faces of these naive inventors after they see the disappearence of their stupid driverless cars in cities like New Mexico, Istanbul and Mumbai...
Too bad that there will be very few people left in America who will be able to afford those things. I suppose that this should also make the auto insurance industry rather redundant, too. Maybe they should stay in Asia, where people don't drive very well, and are more robotic and homogenized. Lol. In America we tend to see our cars as an avenue to freedom on the open road. I hear that the government can actual take control of automated cars through satellites, and either crash them, or shut them down -- along with listening to every move you make, including a fart. Lol. I thought that in the Age of Aquarius technology was supposed to free humanity, not control it. By the way, cellphones, wifi, wearable technology, microchips, etc. -- not only prematurely age the human body -- but gives it cancer, too. Which is big money for the corporate medical and big pharma mafias. Cha Ching!!!
I drive a lot and find myself driving sleepy far too often. This would help me save time studying or napping in the car instead of driving.
Aviation has a similar issue. Newer airplanes are almost pilotless. Would you fly in a pilotless aircraft? What if something goes wrong? I like the option of grabbing the controls.
Another point regarding cars is this idea that the car's design is partly an expression of oneself and that the experience of driving is also part of this expressiveness will change dramatically. In the future, the idea that a car is an outward expression of the person inside it will be like saying that my kitchen knife collection expresses my personality.
9:35
I'm not sure that this would cause congestion. Your car isn't making any trips that it wouldn't make now (what, you're not going to pick up groceries or a sick kid?), but it is making some of them at times when you (today) wouldn't. Instead of going to the grocery store after work (and so is everybody else), your car (and all the other ones) are doing that spaced out through working hours.
I'm happy she's excited about so many things, and I share in her excitement. However, the real life dictates that many people are not the same. She talks about society as a similar and unilateral group, when in fact, we are nothing like it. There's workaholics and bums, rich and poor, those who can, and those who won't. So, as an idea, it's nice to think of life where no one owns the cars, but in fact someone would own the cars, the Service Provider. Imagine Comcast, but for vehicles. And if that Service Provider is the government, then God help us all.
Yeah that is pretty creepy thought. Big brother is watching, and your own way to get to work which ironicly it owned by them
She lost me at government controlling how it all works. Could there be a worst idea?
japanese government has combined with the major car companies. Lets see what science can really do.
stephen tarr - Japanese government works because they get out of the way.
Brian Demarest *Worse*
You know how long the average person has to spend on the road in the USA to be a fatality in a car accident?
About 5,000 years. I have yet to see a computer that is more reliable than a human.
www.certifiedparalegals.org/infographic-car-accident-statistics/
www.fhwa.dot.gov/pressroom/fhwa1607.cfm
What a nonsense. You disgard the individual.
"Who wouldn't want that ?" Me, I'm 22 years old and I want pleasure of driving. If automakers would get steering wheel out of the car I would buy only old cars that are enojoyable for drive. I know there is lot of people will comment like "your way of thinking is outdated" "autonomous car can prevent car crashes" "driving should be hobby on closed tracks". For me, owning a car makes sense only when you can drive it , for me and BILLIONS car enthusiasts all over the world. Auto mode is brilliant idea but human should have possibility to take control of the car always. If there is no chance to drive in future, I would just keep nissan silvia and civic as long as wheels fell off.
Who gave the greenlight for this talk?
I don't know if I could share a vehicle with people. A lot of people out there are really nasty. They fart on and stick gum under seats! They pick their noses, then wipe it anywhere except on a tissue where it belongs! I wouldn't be a part of that ride sharing crap! I love my privacy way tooooooo much! And I don't want or have a need for strangers germs!
jan simonides Vehicles would have to be cleaned between trips, before I would even consider ride sharing. I mean. Think about it. There's super bacteria out there that's resistant to antibiotics of today! It's easy to catch the Nora virus from people who have contracted it! The Nora virus can quickly turn into MRSA if not treated immediately! And MRSA is nothing to fool around with!
jan simonides Exactly. I like the privacy of my own car way too much for ride sharing.
I was thinking the exact same thing
I think the real next step is no cars or trucks. Something needs to come along to replace them. Teleportation? Something not even imagined yet? Some new discovery? This car culture cannot keep getting bigger and bigger no matter what kind of cars they are.
I'm really interested by this concept and I was thinking that it could be really helpful for family who don't have time to bring their kids at school or activities ! What do you think ? The car could be shared with other kids and their parents will follow them through an app
people keep mixing driverless with public. these are different things. I want an autonomous vehicle, but I don't want to share a ride. ownership will continue in a driverless road.
would you buy a car without a horse?
horse isn't the best argument there, because with a steering wheel you still have full control of the vehicle. when you don't have a wheel or pedals you are not in control in any way of the vehicle. a horse is equivalent to the engine and steering, it is not the same, you cannot argue would you buy a car without a horse because that doesn't affect the vehicle in any way, whereas taking away the steering wheel ad pedals does.
If you look at a typical family of four where the two kids borh have cars, and both parents have cars, this alone would add enormously to congestion. If the family had one riverless car, it would schuttle everyone to their destinations and park or recharge, waiting to do the picking up of everyone later. And if this scenario is too much for one car, ordering a driverless car to pick up one family member later could be an option.
the best part of it all is that they are going to be granting freedom to the blind, older, those with injuries and parents would not be tight to kids delivering them to school, the behavior of the streets could be managed as if they would be like veins in a body and the traffic would be really like blood, if every car would be communicated with the city , every one or every car would be feeding the origin and destination to the city, the intelligent city would be able to close and open streets, change . streets directions.
One of the most beneficial aspects I think . would . be . that parking spaces would not be . needed because the most efficient car is going to be moving all day transporting someone
13 to 14 min best part of this talk
She’s not talking about the amount of hackers that could easily hack into the cars. That could increase the amount of accidents, there are sick people out there and they would love to hack into the cars and hurt people. Plus she said driverless cars would lower traffic; no because of all the schedules people would make for their cars like, picking up groceries, picking up their kids, and all that. That would increase traffic because of all the people making these schedules.
So if there aren't driverless cars, people *won't* pick up their kids, *won't* pick up groceries? Sure they will, and sure they do. They just all do it at the same time: after work.
With driverless cars, the grocery trips will be spaced out during work hours. Less congestion, not more. Except that of course you won't send your own car to pick up groceries: you'll have them delivered. You might pick up your kid in your own car, though. But hey, you do that now.
Unless your kid rides the bus, of course.
Two things to consider about driverless cars:
Not everyone lives in the city.
What do we do with a driverless cars that has 250,000 miles? Will we need mandatory inspections much more in depth than that we have now?
if anyone is worried about congestion, check out "the boring company" and their idea of how it would be avoided
there is no need for phones or sidewalks. I agree that there should be security standards, but to write it off entirely while it is still being developed is not a good way to look at any problem.
I'm sorry if you misunderstood the part about phones, i was referring to the phones on the side you mentioned - of course there would have to be ways of contacting people outside the tunnel.
I think you went out on a limb on the last part, I'm only talking about fixing congestion - not Elon Musk's other ideas.
What happens when the driverless car gets hacked by an AI and the car becomes self aware and misbehaves??? Think: Revenge of the automatons! Driving a car is one of the greatest joys in the world.
Driving a car is one of the greatest joys in the world, until you get stuck in traffic or get caught by police if break any law for amusement.
I think car sharing has opened up not because it's "desirable" but because it's a cheaper way of getting around. It's a money thing, not a convenience thing... People don't trust people enough to share vehicles on a permanent regular basis, comfortably.
how do they control whats in the driverless car.. will have problems at airports
I hoped for more from this one.
I love driving my Jeep!!
i live in canada it snows driverless cars need to see the lane markings to stay in the lane.
your from sacramento ever heard of black ice? they won't work where it snows
Can it change its own flat tire?
Does that mean no more speed limit? Would that put airlines out of business?
Really good Talk. Delivery was perfect and easy to understand. Most importantly it kept me listening the whole way through.
Then its not a treat, its sth developed to widen the gap between class. You see people are worried about public problems like congession and greenhouse gas emission, but they also want theyeasy way around. So the only way seem to be eliminate people from using it by making it "expensive".
Comcast needs to hire you guys.
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Wow so many lives will be saved . I can't wait but it's 2019 and still no self drivering cars
It's going to be both. Private ownership and ride-share depending how much money the consumer wants to save. Private cars will slowly become more autonomous while lyft/uber/google will come out all at the same time, a bit later, because they need to be completely driver-less. The demographic will shift depending on the quality, comfort, and affordability. Government/city planning will come in and work with private industry software to allocate areas designated for idle cars waiting to pick up their passengers. Although there will be huge savings and lives saved there will also be a dramatic loss in jobs. Taxis, uberdrivers, truckdrivers, highway patrol, collision repair, insurance, even medical personnel will be cut. New jobs in software, maintenance, and management will replace them. Oh hate to ramble but you can solve inconsiderate messy ride-share customers with rating systems just like amazon. If the autonomous uber comes to pick you up and the last driver left a mess in the car simply use your phone to make a complaint and send for a new ride. If its a private industry they can decide to fine the previous driver if every car that consumer uses is sent back to be detailed by the next user..... damn that was much longer than I planned on rambling...thoughts?
Speaking from 2024, the predicted timelines are already completely off, as driverless cars are still not close to being a reality.
While she mentioned car sharing companies like Zipcar (that has since gone bankrupt), I don't think she discussed the impact of Uber, or at least not nothing more than vague cursory remarks. Nora of course could she have accounted for the impact of the pandemic predicting the future is hard.
Also, I find it a bit curious that especially somebody from the state of California has faith in the ability of a perfectly efficient government to build this driverless paradise.
i really hope this doesn't become a thing 😟
Heath Sims Let me ask you this: if we need to automate everything and remove the human factor out of everything all in the name of "safety" and "convenience", then what's the point of our existence? Shouldn't be too long until going outside will be deemed "unsafe".
A lot of people did not want electricity in their house b/c they thought it was too dangerous.
That's because electricity _was_ (and still _is_ ) VERY dangerous. However, at least it can be managed via switches, transformers, and safety systems such as fuses and breakers. On the other hand, self-driving cars eventually will not allow for manual control so if something should go wrong, it's not like you can just take the wheel and swerve out of harm's way or slam on the brakes. What's even worse is that the passenger(s) would most likely be too oblivious to notice any impending danger anyway.
@@guildrich We are not going to automate everything.
she even talks like a robot.
She's driverless
Yup that's what skynet is all about...
we already pay a yearly car insurance, we already pay the car and the regular services to their parts why not pay a fee to have a very good transport
Soon, a car with a driver will be as rare as a camera with film.
I don't know but to me she comes across as someone that doesn't want to work too hard. Hey I have no problem with that however sustainability Will be the key to win this all comes out to the public
That comes from letting a women talk about cars.
The argument at ~ 9:00 makes no sense. The same number of trips are taking place today the difference being that the driverless car could go shopping at a random hour while humans tend to go shopping either on weekends or in the evening.
Also why would driverless cars require us to car pool? In the contrary ... with cars not parking at the side of the roads lanes would be wider allowing for more cars to travel. Finally driverless cars require much less distance between consecutive cars allowing more cars to travel simultaneously.
a.k.a. why you shouldn' t leave driverless cars up to women.
Driverless taxis will work if it's more convenient then taking the bus. The only way in which it can work if it's a normal taxi, but because they don't have to pay drivers, you can take a subscription that will allow you to take a taxi from anywhere to anywhere else, at the price of a bus subscription today. And by calling it to anywhere by using an app. This would also mean you never have to travel back to your car or remember where you parked, or pay for parking.
Also you don't send your car to take groceries from the store. How would a car be able to go inside a store? You get your groceries delivered at your house.
The big benefits of this would be you wouldn't need to own a car ever.
Nobody likes the sharing part.
Thank you for your speech Lauren, I am sure you must have spent a lot of time and effort on it. I particularly liked the first half of your speech especially the puzzle graphic noting the issues we face. (Data protection, Cyber Security, Liability, Government, Roadway, Human adoption). One criticism I would like to make is on your discussion of congestion. Most congestion is caused by humans starting and stopping our cars. If anything driverless cars will cause less congestion (traffic lights won't be needed as well) and even if congestion was a problem it would be a minor one compared to other issues we face. So it is not worth the amount of time you spent on that topic.
A final note I hope you don't take the negative comments personally, it is simply the nature of the internet for people to speak their mind without regard to other people's feelings.
She forgot to ask about all the jobs it will steal
Cause more computer systems in cars is exactly what we need
What Ms. Isaac conveniently leaves out is that You won't be driving but some other entity will....Google, Apple....the Gov't. Can we ever trust a corporation or a government to have full control over our transportation....which equals our Freedom, I would say no. I will never use an automated car, my freedom is far too precious.
+Tazziee So, you disagree with my assertion because "it's going to happen" essentially ?? I wasn't arguing about whether driverless cars WILL happen, i'm arguing that the people who will control them will NOT be the people in the cars and whether we are prepared to give our potential freedoms away.....are you prepared to do that ?
+Tazziee When did I argue about the science and why is that relevant ? should we adopt every new scientific marvel just because ? and, why do you feel the need to refer to me as "ignorant" ??
+Tazziee OK, I see that you are smart and I am dumb, I will start at Kindergarten and attempt to reeducate myself...i'll start with Al Gore's book, maybe it can help me understand your perspective. While i'm in the educational gulag please read this article. Namaste' www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/why-hard-sell-self-driving-car
+Michael Hoskinson does your argument apply to using cell phones and the Internet as well? Do you expect some local government or small-scale enterprise to deliver these kinds of innovations at both affordable cost to consumers and global reach? I wouldn't hold my breath.
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bollicks. so one owner uses their car to pick the kids up. do the shopping. take you to and from work. so how does non ownership change anything. you're still using it to go to work, do the shopping, pick the kids up. still everyone has their car on the road. whether you own it or not, it's still clogging the road.
you talk about ride sharing. the person next to you farts, snores, stinks. nope. prefer my own space.
and who cleans the car, inside and out. I'm a taxi driver, who gets the drink home, finds the right person. use the cell phone? may you dropped it, doesn't work, forgot to charge it. and what if someone throws up in the non owned car?, needs medical help.
you talk about ride sharing, getting on a bike. oh yeah. my arse on a bike? ain't gonna happen. cold. pissing down.
also this assumes that everyone has no medical or heart or arthritis issues.
and then theirs my wet dogs when i take them to the beach and the dog has just rolled a pile of horse shit. we have an old car we refer to as the dog box. you wanna be in the pod car after my dogs?
so I don't own a car. I want to travel, touring holiday, road trip.......
I'll stick with my car.
The difference is not compared to today's scenario but tomorrow's scenario. Did you hear her say her car goes shopping without her? Does your car do that today? No. So that means congestion will be horrible because everyone will send their cars to do things without them in it.
Wait, traffic will be worse because people won't be in the cars? I guess a person behind a wheel makes it magically better because reasons.
You've got a valid point. lol
She is incorrect on this point throughout the video. Driver less cars means less cars on the road, not more. Imagine you own a self-driving car, why have it sit in a parking lot all day instead of generating you revenue providing rides for other people at a rate you set? Because there are cars providing people with transportation instead of sitting ideal, there is actually a downward pressure on the amount of cars on the roads. There aren't more cars, they are just used much more productively. I think she is just scared that her work in the public sector will soon be made irrelevant by the introduction of driver-less cars.
GalatisMan disagree. because you won't have to take you're car to do whatever you will be happy to let the car do it. and if that allows you to work for more money you will.
I won't be able to graduate high school without a driver-less car existing. Wow
Why would you want to? I'm 17 and I HOPE driverless vehicles become the norm.
I'm all for driverless cars and all the safety they give us but would still like to drive every once and a while. Yes, for commuting, I would use one but for fun I'd like to drive myself.
I lost vision in 2003, I have been involved with computers since the mid 80s, most people back then had No need for a computer I had an older friend that I wanted to build a computer for and she told me she did not want one of those dam things in her house 10 years later around 95 she ask me to build her a computer. people don't like change until it happens then they find they need it
If everyone owns a car, and the cars drive themselves and communicate with each other, couldn't the cars be more like pods that link up on a highway and act as a large train? Then why would you also need trains? Her assumption that cars are going to be the same form factor as they are today is laughably incorrect.
Business owners share cars with their employees every day and it's been proven they don't take care of them. Just like the old saying something that is given to you ,,Rather than you paying for it The person that gets something for free never takes care of it as much as the person that worked hard and paid for it
Crash, not accident.
I can only say one thing; Jacque fresco the Venus project future by design.
Fast electric mini vans should be the driverless craze, because you have more room and freedom. You can have theater chairs with a cinemascope screen, or you can have that work space that you need. Maybe even a couch.
I'm truly amazed, yet disappointed. The speed with which this idea has grown. The funding that has materialized. The effort being thrown into this subect, and media attention. Its remeniscent of our efforts to land on the moon ..on steroids, as they say. But I can't help but consider, what if this effort was instead being put into more efficient cars or perhaps even fossil fueless, a thoroughly "greener" infrastructure even. Or we were improving our deplorable mass transit system in America. I think we know why the effort isn't towards fueless or mass transit. I grew up with the American car being the idea of freedom apparent in the TV ads of the day. Highway 66. Cruising the backroads, heading to unknown lakes to skinnydip. I look into the future though and all I see is the loss of that freedom. I imagine entering one of these things and having to swipe my card with all my personal information attached. It will monitor exactly when and where I travel and for how long deepening the abilities of gps auto/cell monitoring. I imagine it will also further force us into the "credit card" style system to be able to travel in this credit driven society. An attempt to further insure the banks hold all assets as we covet a piece of plastic. Perhaps this ultimately is the reasoning behind the massive push towards automated cars. Consider the down sides. Autos autopiloted out of our control used to assassinate or drive into crowds. Its like thinking auto-piloting is cool, as a pilot on a jet, relaxing while the plane does much of inflight work - till it suddenly veers left and disappears over the Indian Ocean.
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In the real world working people have to be at work about 7am - 9am and then all of them go home each day at about the same time (8 hours later). You need a lot of CARS for only 6 hours a day the rest of the day the majority of these cars will SIT EMPTY. So where the hell are these tens of thousand of CARS going to be PARKED? These experts have not really thought this thing all way through ... (duh)!!!
Probably the same place that unused cars are parked today while people work, a garage or parking area. She addresses this in her presentation. Autonomous cars are not additive to today's car population, they replace them.
how to ruin a good idea.
It will eventually mean the end of virtually all traffic jams
Tidal Yact Most people aren't advocating for the illegalisation of human driven cars and hacked vehicles will be far less common than drunk drivers, or people falling asleep at the wheel. How do you not see that? You're grasping at straws my friend.
what do you do with 253 million cars.
Pepole like me who dont drivr dont have to worry about geting some one jumping on my case not driveing yet
not the greatest delivery of all time - way too flat for me.
Massimo Todaro please evaluate the content nothing else is relevant
Ted and TedX really do value delivery! And so does the majority of the audience. If only the content is important we might as well read it.
Michiel van der Blonk the problem with emphasis on delivery is that for example, demagogues in political competitions can appeal due to delivery however lack substantive content, that had they delivered without the so called flamboyance would not have manipulated their audience. So I feel it is folly to focus on delivery and not exclusively content.
I agree with you to a point. The presenter must know the subject and be able to deliver it effectively. I found her delivery most distracting with almost every sentence having a rising inflection at the end (we used to call it valley girl speak, I think) and her constant rocking back and forth. One half step forward and one half step back thoughout the presentation. Both were detracting from the content. She seemed very nervous and unsure how to speak in public. Relax.The valley girl speak has crept into, mostly North American speech over the past twenty years or so. The Aussies do it a lot too. Most annoying.
Driverless cars. An autonomous 4,000 pound vehicle rolling down the road. What could possibly go wrong ?!*#
My car will go and park 15 miles away from me....more efficient lol I think not. Using a 1/4 tank of gas or 1/4 charge of battery to park lol?
15 miles? 1/4 charge? Exaggerate much? Is your fuel tank also a milk jug?
reason why this won't work because car ownership means privacy. You can store stuff in the car like your soccer gear or crap like that so you don't forget something. You have to worry about the non hygienic person sitting in the car before you. Car on demand. Taxis today take like 20 min to get to you. Do you think they can bring that down in two minutes? You order a car but your wife is not ready yet. (you know women and the time they take to get ready), Do you pay extra for the car waiting an hour or sending it away because you don't need it yet? The number of times you will say dammit I left my phone or wallet or whatever in the car. It's gone. Yup no wonder humans like car ownership. Maybe this is the solution when they make people too poor to afford cars.
Trains have no real need for an engineer, a computer can easily replace them. Yet that job still exists.
Airplanes in the last 20 years have become completely autonomous and have no real need for an on board flight crew. But we still have pilots.
The odds of professional truck drivers disappearing before locomotive engineers and airline pilots are slim to none.
Unfortunately the dream of driverless cars is interesting but reality doesn't allow much of it...
Meanwhile she sitting on the beach on her 25th vodka and tonic, are we as a society so lazy to drive???
Planes have been on auto pilot for almost 8 years but there is always a pilot for safety , so what's the point of having a driverless car if you're gonna need acopilot for safety?
I love the idea I think it's great I just don't see it being sustainable ,there's a lot of trucking companies right now that have a hard time paying for a new tires and fuel and basic maintenance let alone 100,000 Dollar add on
I don't like this presentation either, I don't think she'll be alive to see the future she presented
Выступление про автомобили без водителей, а вывод автора о необходимости делиться своими вещами.Я регулярно пользуюсь каршерингом и карпулингом в Москве, но никогда не посадил бы в своё авто незнакомых людей, находясь в регионах. Для начала необходимо выравнять общество, сократить разрывы в доходах рпзных слоев общества, наладить систему страхования и предупреждения преступлений, иначе твой автомобиль (и ты как водитель) становитесь слишком лёгкой добычей для злоумышленников. Кроме того,у меня нет желания брать ответственность за жизнь чужих людей в моем авто.
A driverless school bus? You want your children to be unsupervised while riding a 12 ton computer? What the hell are people thinking????
Antwaun Williams made my day
Unsupervised? Children around the world go to school on their own and in most countries they use regular public transportation. On the subway, ot the train or any regular non-school-bus you don't even see the driver the whole ride.
I did too :D
That sounds sad :(
sad for society that requires such a law
driving is a hobby petrol heads enjoy. nobody wants driveless cars, thats like having automated painters.
This will change a lot of business and it's almost 100% the near future my advice to the million of people's who are reliant on making bread and butter by driving what ever it is has to make a plan B before its to late that goes to all taxi, Uber, lift, bus, truck, mail, ambulance, train, truck and delivery drivers you have 5 years max
And all supportive industries.
Art Sloan - Easy? No, but there are ways to learn a new trade in your spare time. The point being, they better, because time is getting short.
Art Sloan - Nothing in life that is good is easy.
What a load of fantasy hype. In the 60s these type of people predicted that we would be floating around in hovercraft vehicles. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN !!!
Her analyses of the non-ideal version of self-driving cars makes no sense. Why would I send my car to a parking lot if it could be providing transportation for others at a rate I set through ride sharing? If more cars are used more productively to transport people, this would actually mean less congestion. Her second analyses is also flawed. She can't come to terms with the fact that trains, buses, bikes, Especially TRAINS, are all made irrelevant with self-driving cars. Give me a break with trains. There is likely almost no place for them in the future. They are inherently inefficient when compared to cars today, imagine how irrelevant they will be compared to autonomous cars.
I get the feeling that lawyers are loving the idea of driverless cars.
I stopped at 3 minutes. So this is the person they chose to do a ted talk about these no good contraptions? I always associate TED talk with passion and foremost expertise but this woman is neither.
Less accidents with driver-less cars: sorry madam prove that first! Send my son of 7 to school with a driverless car? does it care what happens to him if he steps out of the car on the road? A taxi driver does! etc., etc. All in all, a very weak argument. Nobody needs driverless cars!
So you're a single mother.. And you expect most women in the future to be single mothers.
It's my humble opinion that Self-Driving Cars Will NOT Transform Our Lives as much as the MECHANICAL EQUIVALENT OF THE INTERNET IN TRANSPORTATION
Why people are stuck to the car. Can't they learn from the magical INTERNET. Thinking of driverless cars and the likes is like thinking of the telegraph/telegram (or the typewriter) and how to improve it. THEY ARE GONE. We must not need cars for 'earthly' transportation.
What we need is the DOOR to DOOR, MECHANICAL EQUIVALENT OF THE INTERNET IN TRANSPORTATION, to change the world and our lives as much as the magical INTERNET did. It is feasible. An architecturally friendly to the environment system of posts and cables (or even rails) going through EVERY STREET will be required, for pollution free electromechanically driven carts to slide. A conceptually new, really big forward step in the movement of people and goods, of the caliper of the INTERNET.
Soon i wont get ask do i drive any more
I dont even talk to pepole one they jump on my case why i dont drive i cant talk to pepole any more now soon i can once again
Yet another person who lives someplace and wants the rest of the US to live as she does. "She possesses expert knowledge on issues surrounding autonomous vehicles and is a driving force in helping city, state, and regional governments proactively respond to this potentially world-changing technological development." Really? I am convinced that should cars be invented today, people like her would deem them too dangerous a technology to be used by humans. Thankfully, cars were invented a century ago and people like her have to live with the consequences, that is until someone like her gets them outlawed (legally or financially) by the government.
"People making good decisions"? that sounds like an oxymoron.
communism
driver-less cars just promote lack of skill and awareness on the road.
books encyclopidias librarys schools names state help buses directions state troopers
driverless cars are nonsense
automated computers too :-)
looks like you missed the last 2050 years or so! :)
How so?
screw cars I want a driverless flying horse, Pegasus. I want Pegasus to not only take me from place to place, but dress me and make me breakfast or go out and chop some wood on winter days, than curl up with me by the fire as we drink hot coco. I'll make the hot coco ;)
There seems to be a lot of luddites commenting on this issue. I strongly suspect they would have had objections going from horses to horseless carriages at the turn of the 1800s to the 1900s and their whines would be essentially the same.
I'd love to see the shocked faces of these naive inventors after they see the disappearence of their stupid driverless cars in cities like New Mexico, Istanbul and Mumbai...
Too bad that there will be very few people left in America who will be able to afford those things. I suppose that this should also make the auto insurance industry rather redundant, too. Maybe they should stay in Asia, where people don't drive very well, and are more robotic and homogenized. Lol. In America we tend to see our cars as an avenue to freedom on the open road. I hear that the government can actual take control of automated cars through satellites, and either crash them, or shut them down -- along with listening to every move you make, including a fart. Lol. I thought that in the Age of Aquarius technology was supposed to free humanity, not control it. By the way, cellphones, wifi, wearable technology, microchips, etc. -- not only prematurely age the human body -- but gives it cancer, too. Which is big money for the corporate medical and big pharma mafias. Cha Ching!!!
If it means saving $5000 a year on insurance I'm in !!!!!
You won't save money. Look at how far technology has gotten so far, and people are paying more than ever.